Ubuntu 24.04 Review: Why It's Time to Change Ubuntu's Release Cycle
Ubuntu 24.04 was released recently, and with it comes a brand new LTS release powered by the GNOME 46 desktop. In this video, Jay will give you his thoughts on this release - which leads to an important question: Is Ubuntu's release cycle showing some signs of pressure? Check out this full review for all the details!
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Time Codes
00:00 - Intro
01:56 - First look at Ubuntu 24.04
02:43 - First look at the new Ubuntu 24.04 installer
04:10 - Ubuntu 24.04 is based on GNOME 46
05:28 - Ubuntu 24.04 has not been pleasant for me
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The whole 'we can't update apps because the app center is open and locked' bug has been around for years now. It's why I run all my updates from the terminal first, reboot if necessary, then open app center and check for anything missed. It's so stupid.
It's much better in 24.04 because the new App Center is only running when you actually have it open, unlike Gnome Software which is always running in the background. So the new App Center will upgrade just fine when snapd checks for updates every 6 hours.
There's that and I've also had an issue with firefox snap not being able to update on every config I've tried. As you said, right after install, i do the norm apt upd && apt upg then I do a snap refresh in terminal before even considering anything else. This seem to prevent the issue, and as @that_leaflet mentioned, once that initial refresh and update is done, everything runs just fine. Turned out to be beneficial to me in ways, being relatively new to Linux. A shitton of trial and error, and a mentally unhealthy desire to figure it out myself made a lot of the information I've absorbed over the past year or so really stick.
One of my friends even say to me that the ubuntu store cant install .deb files anymore.
@@voodooyam Yes, that functionality hasn’t been added yet. You can install third party devs through the command line (either through PPA or by apt installing from a local deb) or by installing an app that installs debs for you.
@@Mikey-Plays-Bass Same. Firefox snap was giving me so many troubles. I removed it and installed the deb.
Small criticism apart, I've been noticing how GREAT things are right now. Ubuntu is great right now. Fedora is amazing. Mint is better than ever. Arch is fantastic. Debian is insane good. And it's not just distros: KDE is on a peak. GNOME is golden. Cinnamon is getting better and better on each release. Everything is really, REALLY looking up in the Linux world. Everything.
I agree, only thing is missing now is the apps. I've been waiting 20 years now for a decent photoshop replacement.
@@snppls agree. i am still waiting for a good email client on linux.
Opensuse is doing good too
Pop!_OS is coming to get a great new desktop environment, too!
Agree 100%.
8:28 this lock process issue has been around for years now. I stopped using Ubuntu the moment I discovered this issue. I should not have to go to terminal to refresh snap-store everytime I want to update my system in 2024. This is just not acceptable. So thank you for everything you did for me Ubuntu(Ubuntu brought Linux into my life), but I am moving on.
Fedora it is! The easiest hop I did from Kubuntu while wanting new GNOME and KDE.
From the perception of the great majority of Ubuntu users the release cycle is every two years, not every six months. Even though I rarely use the intermediate releases myself I’m very happy they exist - it gives plenty of opportunity for testing new features, and must be very important for developers in particular.
same. also the idea of rushing for releases doesn't make sense. why would they rush? they can release it in the next cycle. it would apply more towards releasing every 2 years than every 6 months. Every 6 months takes the pressure off and having an LTS release version completely takes the pressure off. It also helps to push Ubuntu to improve and develop further, otherwise I can easily see them not doing much for 3/4s of that 2 year and eventually questioning why they have resources dedicated to it anyway. I mean, from my perspective, they have barely done anything in the last 4 years anyway. Actually I think for a lot longer than that. I also don't see them doing much for the next 2 years. They don't have an interest in it and their business model doesn't depend on changes done to ubuntu but rather changes not done to ubuntu. Or the changes done that don't apply to non-enterprise customers being completed while all others ignored pretty much.
Not gonna lie, I'm glad you use real hardware for your tests. Gives a better impression than using a virtual machine.
The scaling problem is due to gnome, not ubuntu. Actually it is for the x11 session, Ubuntu starts the installer in an X11 session, we all know that x11 and fractional scaling are enemies.
thanks for that additional information. its really useful. but that still makes it an ubuntu problem. Ubuntu is using gnome which is fair, but they are releasing ubuntu, not gnome. If our car breaks down, we don't blame the component that broke down but the company for releasing an unreliable model. Ubuntu can use gnome for free but they have to take criticism on their behalf because I'm not using gnome, I'm using Ubuntu. I didn't install gnome, I don't know gnome. I know ubuntu and I installed it and it's broken. This is for Ubuntu, I'm not blaming you of course and the information you provided is insightful but I just wanted to add this.
Old IT guy here.... Rule of thumb... Never update on Release day. Always wait for .1 or .2 release before updating. The .0 is the mess, .1 are the panic fixes and .2 is usually the actual release that should have happened.
The scalling bug at 7:11 and locking up the display seems to be an issue with GNOME on X11, it happened to me on the live installer (which uses X11) but not when installed which then uses Wayland
I have had no problems with the Ubuntu 24.04 install. Now, I did a fresh install rather than an upgrade. I certainly didn't have the 4K Res issue or any of the other issues that you outlined. So far, so good.
I’ll have to check out what you were showing. The problem I had was with the installation. The installer crashed three times on me. The last time was after the install started. I checked system monitor and saw the processors were going pretty good so I assumed it was still going. When they flatlined, I rebooted the system. I booted it up fine into 24.04 after I had to choose which grub. It didn’t boot up to the 24.04 grub. I have a multi boot PC. I totally agree with you on the yearly schedule change. Every other year remaining LTS.
You keep using the word “enterprise” but which enterprise customer is going to upgrade to an OS on day 1 of a release.
the fact that they can is a problem. If the error is on Ubuntu's side, then the error is on Ubunutu's side. They gave the go-ahead when they shouldn't have. Fire Ubuntu. That's the point.
Thanks for the review. I'm sorry about the bugs you encountered, and I hope that the bugs that you mentioned will be ironed out by the time the first point release comes out.
Will you be creating courses for LPIC-1 & LPIC-2?
Was looking forward to 24.04. I use acpi on my dvr and it was causing headaches in 22.04. I wanted the update to see if some of the problems would just go away. Thanks for the review.
I had no issues with my 24.04 install and had a couple of crashes on my Fedora 40 install, but I wouldn't say Fedora 40 was rushed. I think you are not giving it a fair shake. Perhaps try it on another device?
Yeah, if anything, possibly due to the xz attempted attack, Ubuntu 24.04 was more rushed.
@@cameronbosch1213 Sure I guess. But he had similar issues with the installer on previous Ubuntu installs.
You’re doing a great thing for us sir, I suggest if you make a video of installing a packet tracer on this version I’ve been trying with old version procedures but fails successfully 😢
To get around the Snap error for the packages installer, is update the Snap store in CLI snap refresh I think it was, once it updates it's fine..
23.10 has been very good for me... I'll stick with it for awhile.
I am running 24 in a VM in Proxmox. (I am a newbie with Linux and Proxmox). Opens OK but I have the cursor for my Windows 11 (using to open and use the VM) and another small cursor that looks like the one for Umbutu 24.. They move around together, and occasionally on the home page of 24 the cursors begin blotting out a line as they move across the screen. You can completely delete/cover up any open app screen with the maroon color of the desktop, as if you were blotting out a picture using a photo processing application. Weird and makes this almost useless as I have to close and open the VM again....and start over.
you have a valid point about the LTS releases targeting enterprise use, but the thing is, no LTS or even regular releases are allowed to be upgraded until the .1 release is out, and by then, usually the initial big bugs are sorted. you can of course download the release for new installs or whatever, but i also do an upgrade and they've never failed.
Yes and enterprises should never be using the newest version anyway. New features brings new bugs. When it's important, you want to use mature software.
thanks for all you do, keep up the good work.
I installed yesterday. Works good. Only issue i have is with a displaylink usb monitor. (I had trouble with it when i did 23.10 and cant remember what i did to fix it.)
Sir, can you please make a review on vpn l2tp ipsec connection with PSK on new ubuntu? Because on 22.04 it didn't work.
I was looking forward to this release - but fractional scaling for 4K screens is still an issue. At best , I get blurry fonts and, worst case application crashes. After using Mint / Ubunt for at least 8 years, I decided to run another distro with Plasma 6. Works great on 4K monitors.
I have experienced the display resolution gnome crash too. It was quite confusing. I had to restart gnome entirely if I remember correctly. Pretty much made me pack up the distro right there. No way this is something that can be distributed publicly without the word beta next to it.
I just tried 24.04 in VMware Workstation and display issues prevented me from installing multiple times. I finally disabled 3D Acceleration and installed with the safe installer and got it installed. After booting, black screen. I had to keep enlarging and reducing the window size, then the desktop finally showed. Never had this issue with any other distro.
The solution if you don't trust Ubuntu releases on or near release date: Don't install or attempt to use them anytime close to that date. Wait a month or two; hell, even five or six months if you're really paranoid. You could even wait until they release a 24.04.1 image with the first batch of updates and bug fixes built right into the image. With a lifespan of five years, they are in no way forcing you to update any time soon. You could even wait, what, another three years or so for support of 22.04 (which is currently at 22.04.4) to end if you really wanted to, or skip 24.04 entirely and install 26.04 in a few years. Fedora does not give you this kind of flexibility, and I can say that I have seen a release (somewhere in the mid 30s) of that distro that contained more crashes, bugs and problems in general than I've seen in any OS over the last two decades outside of ReactOS. It didn't just run poorly live on my actual hardware--it even failed within the relatively safe confines of a virtual machine, and installing it in that machine did not lead to a better system.
You nailed it bro 👍🏼 great, spot on comment. It should be pinned 😁👍🏼
In fact I switched from Fedora to Ubuntu because Fedora had a myriad of very little problems that didn't seem to get any attention but were annoying beyond belief, while Ubuntu might not be the most polished distro on release, but they'll usually try to fix those little bugs that harm the end user experience. And the LTS release is perfect for this. I'd say 22.04 wasn't really great up until a full year after it was released, but it eventually got to that point and there was never any rush to upgrade, so that works for me.
22.04 LTS is still the best LTS release for me personally
I still have servers running 20.04 LTS. They'll be upgrdaed to either 22.04 or 24.04 LTS later this year, but I certainly am in no rush, and don't feel rushed. I'm not running the six month releases on servers, and I doubt anyone else is either. I do run the six month releases on my desktop, because I like having a newer GNOME and such, but that's a desktop.
thankfully, i haven't experienced the issues you noted with my 24.04 installs. while i do think they should delay if they need to, i really hope they don't change the release schedule. i like the new stuff in the interim releases
I'm a huge Ubuntu fan, but that Snap store update issue? I think the first time I ran into that was 20.04. It absolutely should've been fixed by now.
yeah same. its insane its still not fixed. every time i have to update the store itself i have to kill the process and do a sudo snap refresh from the terminal because it cant update itself from the gui.
I just tried the Fedora 40 live DVD and had the small font issue. it also froze on me. I had to do a hard shutdown.
What???? You mean fedora isn't perfect?? How dare you?!?!? 😂This guy is just a hater. Ubuntu will never be fedora and will always suck in his mind.
"Long term support means it will be supported for a long time". I paraphrased, but I now remember why I don't watch your vids lol.
Why? Because you tend to paraphrase others?
Hi jay, please create a video on how to setup a budget home lab for learning/practicing all the Linux and DevOps stuff.
tell u what is your dailt linux distro
I always had issues with updates in the app/software center. They won't install. I have to remove the snap store in Terminal and install it again. After that the updates will install.
how to make ubuntu with desktop enlightenment? is there an iso ready to use on the starter pendrive?
At 8:08 lol, I have a same problem about update snap store. The only way to fix that is either "sudo snap refresh snap-store" or "sudo snap refresh" if I did either way, it updates snap store just fine. ======================================================================================================================================================== At 8:43 Nope lol, gnome software has a same problem, again if did either workaround on terminal, again it updates just fine.
After updating to 24.04 lts ,my brightness control does not work🙃
When i did mine desktops went fine... Server not so much cant have static ip loses internet started with the last update to 22.04 actually
I've migrated an old optimus laptop to ubuntu 24.04 and it has been a disaster since the driver application doesn't recognize the dedicated 770M; I've installed the driver manually but it still looks like it's not working properly.
08:29 - well.... That's more than reasons to not like snap at all. For some mounths now, I am using arch based distro, like Manjaro or EndevourOS, with KDE Plasma 6 and need to say that's awesome.
5:37 it took you that long to mention the issues you had. your videos are extremely wordy and the ads at the front are why i end up skipping to 5mins in before you begin to make one point, scaling issues, then you put another ad.
I did have some gnome issues too. And bugs… went back to arch…
While modern look init. I agree with you It is too fast in rolling update, is it even LTS? My Dropbox notification icon not working. Annoying every time I click on title bar free space and it is suggesting to window tilling. 22.04.04 had a update and started lagging my gnome terminal so I hurried to make a fresh install on my working machine. Now it made a history.
I have 24.04 LTS installed on my Raspberry Pi 4 model B and another old x86 notebook, in both cases the Remote Desktop either crash or does not allow connection. It keeps on giving 0x270 error (password expired) despite that I have double checked my id and password. This is the biggest issue I have ran into so far and there seems to have no solution on internet. Other than this the Ubuntu on Raspberry Pi 4 has been a good experience!
10:32 I have that same graphical issue. I wonder if it’s due to nvidia.
The app center bug is also a thing on 22.04
I can't even get it installed, or it hangs during boot after it installs.
Good video!
I had app center lock on me with 23.10 so I just used terminal to update snap but I wondered if was just me and how other people would react to that
I have had apps and gnome extensions crash that I haven't had with other Linux distro or even with past Ubuntu.. Each crash log is referring to having issues with /opt.
I was waiting for the update notification on my wife's Framework 13 that's on 22.04. Looks like I'll wait a bit longer till they iron out the kinks (and actually send an update notification; I haven't seen one yet). I upgraded my Fedora KDE spin from 39 to 40 today and haven't run into any major bugs there. Only thing I've found till now is that if I have multiple browsers open and don't play audio for 10-20 minutes, my bluetooth headset picks the last browser that played any sound and ignores all of the others. I need to disconnect and reconnect again. For that to be the only "bug" I ran into was surprising to me, but then again, upgrades from 36 onwards have never given me any major grief.
I didn’t face any of the issues you were describing- all smooth and ready to go. I wonder what’s under the hood that made it so complicated for you.
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100% true. Can some one tell me where this white screen comes from? it made me uninstall opensuse tumbleweed I loved the os but it gave me the white something when wrong screen all the time. Can some one help me out and maybe tell me how to disable it? Because my games were still running .. i could not alt tab to them but if i did in the preview window with alt + ~ the music would continue to play but some how when i pressed enter it didn't go there. I want to know what went wrong and how to fix it not saying oops something went wrong .. is this a gnome 46 thing?
i'll wait to 24.04.1
Agree, I usually always wait for the .04.1 release. And I have used Ubuntu from the beginning of this grate OS, well today only the server version.
I upgraded to 24 lts right on the day of launch and boom, it blew up, had to use another laptop to boot up my pendrive and very shamelessly i installed 24 lts again, and everything seems to work fine and now my screen flickers and jitters. And over-all it is a good and stable distro but yes, shifting back to 22 and will upgrade maybe on 24.04.1 release
I just upgrade my desktop from f39 to f40 and it went like a breeze. But installing Fedora from scratch is just not as neat as Ubuntu is now.
I tried that same upgrade and it failed miserably, and no way to roll it back even though btrfs supposedly has a snapshot feature. I don't mind an "experimental" distro, ...except when it blows up in my face.
Like a *Breeze* you say? I'll see myself out...
@@danfg7215 I've upgraded several machines from F39 to F40 without any trouble at all these last few days. Some of them have been upgraded all the way from F35.
@@danfg7215 Having now upgraded several computers from F39 to F40 without any problems, i think you must have somehow manually broken your system.
I am current using Ubutun 24 from Win 11. But I dont know how to keep my screeen scale as Win 11 :((
Fractional scaling is not working in Gnome yet. For now it's only implemented in KDE. So you would need to use Kubuntu or any distro with KDE.
What i love about Ubuntu is that if, god forbid your device gets corrupted or damaged (at least in my case) you can install Ubuntu via OEM which isnt something thats available for most distros, and it can extend the life of some devices!
Great review! Most other youtubers don't even bother testing it for real. This type of bug of key functionality (here update and display scaling) is unacceptable in a LTS or entreprise release, you are right. I would be curious to see if this affects Lubuntu minimal install with no snapd...
Excellent review. Thank you.
Good review as always. I dont like to use ubuntu anymore since the introduction of snap. True. But i love ubuntu as the fundament of wonderful distros like Pop OS, Mint and Zorin! I hope these will be great again.😉 To give it credit, i tried 24.04 on many notebooks and desktops with different hardware, and all worked. Compared to fedora, the automatic ubuntu install of nvidia driver is awesome!
Good review. Had the same problems with it when I looked at it. There is certainly an impression of it being "issue or be damned" mentality at Canonical. Like always, wait for .1
What hardware were you using? I had the crashes when changing resolution on Nvidia GPU's, but not AMD GPU's. It's still not acceptable, but linux developers really only have one hand on the wheel when it comes to Nvidia.
This is precisely the reason why I switched to FreeBSD for (most) of my baremetal servers, if docker is not too important for a deployment I stick with FBSD because of how damn stable the thing is (for usage and updates), I recently updated from 12 to 14 with literally 0 hiccups and updating ubuntu from any old LTS to new LTS always messes up everything up for me, I really wish there was more love for drivers on FBSD land but yeah.. that ain't happening
The frequent releases doesn't have so much to do with users, but is more about the developer community. It reduces the difference between releases. Gnome is a very small part of Ubuntu and there are an enormous number of packages that fits together. Most people should not be on the cutting edge, because it always has a lot of sharp corners. A lot could be improved by simply changing the way they communicate with the public, because a big part of the problem is that users expectations are wrong. In reality, the polishing begins when a new version is out. There's nothing wrong with that approach as long as users don't think otherwise.
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Here is my review: Ubuntu 24.04 on Dell Vostro 5481. I have tried to update through uodate manager but it nuked my system. After that I made a fresh install and everything went fine. I have only one problem, that is screen turn off/on for random amount of time from few ms to 1 second maybe because it is NVIDIA drivers on X11.
Maybe Ubuntu could put out stable releases if they stopped imposing Snaps on us. No one would argue if they had spent that effort making Synaptic prettier. I'll probably keep my Kubuntu 23.10 around until 24.10 when they'll finally include Plasma 6. At the very least I'll wait until 24.04.1. But what I'm really waiting for is Mint LMDE with Plasma 6.
To be honest, my experience with the last few Ubuntu versions is exactly why I've switched to using the terminal in Mint's LMDE installer to drop vanilla Debian on my machines. I love the software suites and repo's available to Mint and Ubuntu -- but they're just not worth the pain of the environments, and they can be dropped and keyed into APT anyway, during or after an install.
I don’t consider the LTS to be released until the first point release.
To be fair, Canonical pretty much feel the same way.
I did had a same issues like that. Luckily, they can give this a point release just to fix the issues that is needed unlike a previous LTS (22.04) had a first point release that managed to fix the installer issues for NVIDIA users. Hopefully, they'll might fix the 4K or 8K issues about fractional scaled set to 200% by default like my iMac (2017 21.5 inch), if I tried that version on my iMac, small loading screen at second then upscaled it to 200% automatically to be a default. Yes, even I tried back in 23.04 (Lunar Lobster), same thing happen. However, my iMac's speaker won't work with Ubuntu but macOS, I'm not saying I'm switching back to macOS because it's trusted, I know apple ruined the trust due to claiming this "8GB ram is a same thing as 16GB ram (misleading claim)" Time keeps flying just to waste their time, very delightful to say is not their fault, but it's a timer's fault.
Do a video on Ubuntu 24.04 upgrade from Ubuntu 22.04
On the one hand I appreciate Ubuntu LTS releases having a relatively set cadence. My "day job" is doing primarily internal tools development... For my purposes its useful to know exactly when I'll have a new OS to be targeting/testing/rolling out. In terms of "in between" releases - Don't use them, don't care if/when they're released. As a server, having run Nobel in testing the last few months, I haven't had any particular issues. Should the bugs you noticed, in particular the updater bug, have been dealt with pre-release? Sure - Especially if its a simple fix only needing an extra few days. The resolution bug strikes me as less serious - Its a good candidate for a .1 update which is likely closer to when businesses might start doing some initial rollouts anyway. Even in my case, and having not seen bugs with my tooling, I don't expect to put 24.04 into production use until the summer/early fall.
One thing I want to know, why did the devs remove compact mode for folders for the default program? I can't fathom why having less view of my files is better. I have to install Cinnamon.
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Ouch, that's bad even by Ubuntu's 1st-day release standards (I've used Ubuntu for so many years), but also interesting this is the 1st review where something like this happened. They absolutely should do a yearly release than a bi-yearly, but it's too much to ask.
I have upgraded from 23.10 to 24.04. No problems, it works fine. I had the snapd update problem with 22.04.
Things the majority of open source projects do, they do never test, implement the new shinny broken feature causing regression everywhere and push everything to the user, make the user add a bug report that will never will be resolved in a list of the +1000 reports. Gnome it's a great example of how get the users mad.
Ok but you are saying that this version is not acceptable because bugs on your specific setup, you should look at more experiences to say that, for me I installed it and it worked perfectly
do you have any solution for synaptics touchpad they are worst not smooth like win 11
One reason why i prefer either Fedora and Debian these days, both just work and ive personally not had any issues with either
I see the intermediary releases as little more than betas for the next LTS 🙂 It's a shame there's those issues but fingers crossed there'll be bugfixes shortly. I've had a few issues with Fedora 40 Kinoite, might install 39 and then upgrade in a month or so once the initial issues are worked out 🙂
fail2ban doesn't work on Ubuntu Server 24.04 LTS :(
Enterprise shops won't be installing this version anytime soon. My work is still using Windows 10. Anyone who is anyone is going to wait until, at the very least, the first .1 release.
Were just waiting for VMware support for VDIs and it'll be rolled out for desktops and VDIs. But we don't run Ubuntu Server anywhere, that's the job of Rocky 9.
I agree with the release cycle point. Most people that want a 6 month release cycle probably don't care about Ubuntu's enterprise grade stability and so have shifted to Fedora anyways. Ubuntu can definitely get away with only one interim release between two LTS releases. So a 24.04 LTS, then 25.04, then 26.04 LTS.
I have tested it on multiple systems. As far as I could gather, many of the random crashes / anomalies are related to the Nvidia driver. Go figure!
I've noticed still not consistent in the overall look. Rounded corners still not implemented everywhere. Settings and terminal for instance. I don't like it. I hate rounded corners anyway (my screen doesn't have them), but if rounded corners, implement them everywhere. I wouldn't upgrade until the point release because of all the bugs that are bound to be there. I'm confused because it isn't updated every 6 months. That's the interim release, not the LTS🤔
A couple more problems: Another You-Tuber, who was evaluating 24.04, said that he was disturbed that his install took over 30 minutes to complete. When I tried to install (NOTE the word TRIED), I gave up on the install after 90 minutes. I continued trying 4 more times and in each case aborted the effort after 90 minutes. I will try downloading a new .iso before trying again. Yeah, methinks this particular version is still buggy.
Given the xz backdoor led to one less week of testing, I'm not surprised. Then again, this and the last two LTS releases haven't been very stable at release (20.04 wasn't very good and 22.04 was a mismatch of GNOME and GTK apps).
@@cameronbosch1213 I never loaded 22.04, so can't comment on that; but, I had NO problem installing 20.04 (or 18.04, or 14.04, or 12.04) -- just 24.04. Oh, I DID install Unity 22.04 and had no problem with that.
I installed very quickly. The only time consuming stuff I had was trying to remember what all the gnome add-ons I liked. Haha
I agree. An LTS should prioritize stability instead of deadlines. That said 24.04 improved performance a lot. Also it fixed the problem i had with my wifi disconnecting. I don't know how much of that is because of the kernel version.
If you view 24.04 as the replacement for 22.04, then there have been 2 years of feature upgrades too.
Just have freshly installed Ubuntu 24.04 from 22.04 and trust me it feels good but so many things are just crashing, this dude can even open appcenter I can't even open that , it became a hell of a thing for me cause I have erased the 22.04 and now I am here waiting for all the bug fixes 😢
Thank you Jay for saying what needed to be said, re: their release philosophy being broken!
It wouldn't even be unprecedented for Ubuntu to delay a release due to an issue. Version 6.04 was delayed to 6.06.
I was going to say this. The first number is the last two digits of the year (2006), and the number of the month (04 being delayed to 06, from April to June). Thus, it should be trivial to see how often Canonical delayed a release.
I upgraded my home lab pc just to see if I should upgrade my work pc too.. I got something has gone wrong screen 3 times now I'm just trying to restore everything back.. It's crazy how every program from lts 22 now make tls 24 crash.. There's no back compatibility it seems 😂
The lack of KDE Plasma 6 on Kubuntu / Ubuntu Studio until October is a huge miss imo. That's one of the reasons I use a rolling release and why I think true point releases are dead outside of enterprise use cases, at least for the desktop environments.
Fedora model is great.
Those are side-distro with not a lot of work force behind it, so it is normal it take another 6 months to adjust it.
I'm still waiting for Tuxedo OS to move to KDE 6. We're in 5.27. We do have a slowed down rolling release cycle. Sometime this summer we'll be moving to the new Ubuntu LTS base and KDE Plasma 6.
Kubuntu with KDE has more quality than Ubuntu and Gnome.
u can think of it like this, when KDE Plasma 6 does release on those flavors, it will be much better.
One positive thing is, I love the crown.
It's not a requirement for most people to install the 6-monthly releases. They're only for enthusiasts or hobbists. Heck even LTS releases can be skipped if one so chooses.
I installed it, it looks really nice. But I had issues and went back to mint.
There is positive in this release. But somehow the managed to break things that worked fine in beta version. And nvidia driver have new troubles like on dual screen setup detects 3 monitors. Checked on GT710 470 driver and GTX970 535 driver. It's real shame that I need to update to this. I agree that Canonical need to drop 6 month release schedule. Releasing LTS every 2 years is fine, but for interim it's okay to have one 6 months before next LTS release. Everything in-between should be beta build testing. Stability and quality over quantity.
As a software engineer turned manager, slowing down the release cycle will not result in fewer bugs. Slowing down the cycle will just lengthen the delay in the feedback loop. It's tempting to think that developers just need more time to work out the bugs, but that misunderstands how developers work and why bugs get shipped. A product that feels rushed is a result of poor project management and leadership leading up to the release. It's not that there wasn't enough time that went into the project before release, but that time wasn't properly allocated and managed throughout the development cycle.
I have no idea what hardware you're using, but I experienced none of the problems you mentioned.