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So today I went to an airshow in Greece and I was wearing the "I'm a cat person" shirt. First memorable thing was going to the USAF booth and the pilots there saying "hey you watch Growling Sidewinder too!" Second was walking past a little kid, must've been like 11 or 12 years old, and he read the shirt and laughed and was like "oh because it's a Tomcat, cool!" and that made me happy.
Looool awesome brother thank you supporting the channel and also for sharing that story very cool to hear.
That’s amazing! HAHA
What an amazing story ☺️
That kid will turn out to be a fighter pilot!
Man that is awesome. I truly admire GS and his ability to "read" a situation and stick to the principles. It has won him many fights. USAF is missing an opportunity to import him, get him up in a trainer model 2 seater with some gopro's, and get some very effective advertising in.
GS: "It's not over til the fat lady sings" (Rounds impact airframe) GS: "I think the fat lady just sang"
GS: "Premature ejection lol😅" Come on, you can tell us. That was Jester flying that Eagle in the first round, huh? 😹😂🤣
I think you mean Jester. But yeah, I think Jester hopped over to the chair force but still left his balls at home.
@@Reaper_03-01 Yeah I meant Jester lol thanks for catching that.
I'm down for a F15 vs Mirage video ! Would be interesting to watch the king of the one circle vs the Eagle
ikr the fight videos these days are getting better and better.
Probably Raptor lol
@@myusername3689 Nah, the raptor is an evolved viper in terms of dogfighting. But it is like an evolved tomcat or eagle in bvr for sure :D
Raptor dogfights aren't exciting. They are always Raptor wins.
@@jimmynickelz mb339 would beg to differ
"Annnd he hit a tree..." How F'ing anti-climactic....😂
"And I fear that I may have just departed flight in the flanker" I freaking DIED.
So did he
@@williewilson2250 LOL
Thoughts on the first kill and why he ejected: when you clipped the Eagle’s wing, it’s possible you hit a hydro line and he had no control.
The hydro redundancy systems would kick in
Такой учебный бой происходил в реале и проходил в далёкие 90е года на американской базе Россияне тогда победили с большим перевесом) Кто то говорит что это была тактика американцев для того что бы выбить у конгресса деньги на 22 Раптор ... Кто то ещё версии в оправдание американцев высказывает... Кстати, тогда на обратную дорогу американцы залили не качественное топливо которое вскипает на большой высоте и облетая циклон сверху два су27 заглохли - у обоих отключились оба двигателя.... Такая история
@@shaneturner1767 I thought the F-15 only had fly by wire
@@jamesonaudette528 that thing is FULL of hydraulics and redundancies to safeguard each other. Makes a nightmarish mess when you’re working underneath them.
@@jamesonaudette528 only the F15 Eagle II has it, and it’s only support to be used by the US National Guard
Eagle 1 Flanker 1 Tree 1 *thanos putting the tree where it was with the stone* "I am inevitable
The emphasis you now put on "RATE" fight 😂
Can't have folks thinking it's a rape fight.
@@pandabanana2593 MiG 29 vs F5 was pure raPe fight though :D
@@baginatora what fight? That was just rape.
After three years working at RAF Lakenheath I finally got to sit in an F-15E, it was totally awesome. After watching so many DCS video's it felt very cramped and small in the cockpit, but it was such an amazing experience. Also got to walk on the top of the Eagle, weird but exciting......having flown Cessna's and Piper's and today sitting in the cockpit, I can't really imagine the work load and feelings these guys must have in a real engagement. Total respect.
Love seeing more of the Flanker, it's such a sexy plane
Today I took my 6-year-old to the Canadian International Air Show in Toronto, Canada. This was his first air show. My parents took me for the first time when I was around the same age which helped spawn my passion for all things planes. Being able to do the same for my son has made today very memorable. GS, your channel has helped me share my love for fighter planes (WWII to Gen 5) with my son. Today he got to see his first CF-18, P-51 and F-35 in real life. We can’t forget the incredible Snow Birds! For some reason the CC-150J Herc was his favourite… Go figure… The look on his face and the excitement he had when they went screaming overhead was all I could have hoped for. Thanks for your exceptional content and helping to pass my love for planes to my little man. Cheers.
this has to be one of the most intense dogfights I've ever seen
I for one love the longer videos. And especially the ones in witch the rounds go back and forth. Great job!
Gotta love Flanker and Russian warplanes but especially SU, that is just beautiful. Like they hire entire art school to come with a concept and then start working on the technical details lol
The Su-27 is so good even without Thrust vectoring. Now take the Su-35. It is an updated version of the Su-27 and has way better maneuverability and tech.
They owe the design aesthetics to the American F16. Russia rips of the U.S. and China rips off Russia.
Having gotten back into flight Sims again after 20 years with fs2020 your videos really got me excited to try combat again! I am flying falcon bms and my dogfighting and bvr is actually pretty good because the whole time I keep hearing your voice in my head!! Also, you should let viewers send in their data files and videos and you analyze them! Maybe have a "drawing" at a set interval and whomever wins can provide the video and data for you to analyze.
Thank you, GS!! This is exactly what I asked you video or two ago, thank you, man. I didn't even see the vid, but it definitely deserves thumbs up!
LOVED this one. Lots of good juicy info. Thanks my dude
The F-15 has a tremendous advantage in its ammo capacity - 940 rounds as opposed to only 150 rounds.
But the rate of fire in the eagle is much higher so you lose more rounds in the same amount of time you're shooting.
I wouldnt say that. You wont need a lot rounds in the Su-27 because they are using a 30mm caliber cannon while the F-15 use a tiny 20mm machine gun.
@@Mike_Romeo 20mm cannon rounds from a gatling gun. Machine guns fire solid/tracer/incendiary rounds. Cannon rounds EXPLODE. The Vulcan is the envy of aerial gunnery platforms everywhere. You can't fly between gaps in the rounds like you can when facing slower (rate of fire) Soviet legacy weapon systems. Soviet cannons, "Pom. Pom. Pom. Pom." Vulcan, "BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT!!!!"
@@debbiestimac5175 You really should cut down on the sugar...
@@topkitena How much vodka do you drink in a week?
The "What's up my doods" killed me for some reason lmao
Awesome patience at 8:40. I was nearly biting my nails seeing the lack of incoming fire in that exchange. Also great explanation of why attackers shouldn't unga bunga rush the lead.
That's what we call premature injection 😂😂😂
Ejection
Thank you GS you never disappoint!
12:43, that jank though. First time I was rooting not for you, but for the bandit.
Third round is a very very nice!)))) Thanks for this fight video, GS, your content is so interesting
Another Flanker video, nice! Especially because I started playing DCS this week and got myself the Flanker
Flanken is a nice Plane to Start with. I also got myself a su33 as first Module.
yeah instead of just buying the Flanker I bought FC3 so when I am a bit more proficient I can start to play with the other jets as well.
Well I bought a vr headset for dcs then realized you must have a HOTAS so bought vtol vr instead
@@badgermcbadger1968 I prefer Track IR / Open track, so whatever floats your boat I guess
@@_Cyph3r_. I kinda dont understand how that works, if you want to look at the back of your plane you have to look over your shoulder IRL? But then your not looking at your monitor lmao
"Premature Ejection" absolute gold GS.
The F-15 and Su-27 are at match in a dogfight and like you said in the video "It depends on the pilot skill to win" and seeing both of you match up in that rat fight was amazing trying to gain the advantage is truly the challenge what I love about aircrafts and all their glory!
That last fight was epic!
F15 - 1 Flanker - 1 Tree - 1 Balanced game
*thanos putting the tree where it was with the stone* "I am inevitable
Always ready for some flanker dogfights!
Not only can I NOT stop watching these videos, now I have to go through the GS channel archives to find even MORE to watch!!! Has GS made a pact with Gods and Demons to make his videos irresistibly addictive?
Love watching these videos. It's like a dangerous dance in the air.
Nice! Some darn good flying there :)
i love watching you dogfight people, it is like watching a facsinating beautiful dance, nice vid keep up the good work!
Can we get some more flights from the eagles perspective? It’s my favorite plan and I love watching you dogfight so I can def learn something from it
Excellent flying from the Eagle. Who was pilot? Don't think you said? I've got a lot of respect for your various bandit pilots.
"Big thank you to SteelRain for helping out with this video and flying the F-15 for us today." It was in the description. :^ )
Yes we do like the longer videos. Thank you very much.
I think this is the first time I've seen the spiraling climb used to drain your opponent's energy on this channel. Not that I've seen all your vids but either way, good stuff.
Yeah I don't see the spiral used too much here. I've used it against a hornet in a viper and he just couldn't hang. It was a great fight.
That last fight was really good, lots of good nuggets of information too.
Great stuff. Thanks again for the video.
Finally, he is back! And with rus planes! i request you to do a su33 vs su27, to see which flanker is better in dogfights.
su33 more batter
@@angahcheah5125 Lol its not. Its heavier and less agile.
@@Mike_Romeo big number more batter
@@jaredtanner2738 lol
Question for you GS.. I wonder, in DCS is there a game mechanic that simulates pilot endurance/exhaustion? Because, I'm watching this super long rate fight, and the pilot can be heard using the AGSM technique the whole time... I can't imagine they can keep that up for ever... What do u think?
Great fight, more please!
that was intense GS, can you do more stuff with the su 27 and the f18 and the f15 and f14
"...for those of you still watching at this point..." Wait... Is *not* watching your videos all the way through an actual thing?!? Hell, I enjoy them so much I watch them twice (at least)!
Who remembers the flanker vs raptor vid😂
Upward spiral at 9:45 was beautiful
Great fight...great video.
Trees are to OP, need a nerf.
Those trees. Always jumping out at planes out of no where I tell ya.
Hello GS, does your server do night missions? I was interested in trying some night flying. Maybe even set up some AAA flak in areas to spice things up.
Damn. I just started dcs with track ir and all, only have the eagle. I can't even get bvr right let alone this stuff... nice videos as always!
Love the long vids
A wonderful lesson!
that last fight LOL the eagle fought for so damn long and just survived so many damn rounds only to die by hitting a tree
Thanks man
Maaaan,this intro is incredible😍
"It's the man, not the machine" - Chuck Yeager
Great bro
High level of SA and forecasting here, really nice.
GS: You're not the fat lady LS: Yes I am
Lots of good lessons here!
From what i can understand from dog fights is, who make the better circle wins or who make the circle smaller circle wins
aha i get the reference to the 1 wing eagle, that managed to land after a wing had broken off
Thanks for explaining what your doing and why. These viedos make me a much better dogfighter
That was awesome. So how do you get the F15? I know it was in LOMAC but is it playable in DCS?
Good fight, good video, gg
Nice to see you hitting the Flanker again! Still waiting on your opinion of the J-turn tho 😉
"and he hit a tree"...great fight, regardless!
I have been looking a lot of your videos so far ... do you have some militar training ? (because of how fluent you are with technicallity and tactics)
this one was VERY entertaining
That premature ejection was spectacular, so I'm gonna call it 'premature eje-cula-tion'
George of the Jungle was flying that F-15. He definitely didn't watch out for that tree.
I'd really like to see an f16 vs f15 fight. I dont think you've done a proper one before, and it will be fun :D
“those of you who are still watching at this point.” Gdamn that attention span
Eagle pilot suffers from PE "Premature Ejection" I love it 😀
Finally the Flanker back at it^^
DCS looks great on an extensive computer setup, I need to upgrade my machine.
Out of curiosity, is it possible with a high off bore sight capable and supermaneuverable aircraft, to cobra the aircraft in the merge and get turned around enough in the cobra to launch a missile
Moar Flanker! This was awesome
Whoever you were fighting should watch this video
Any any disc golfer will say in a failed shot, that darn tree
So out of curiosity, did he just happened to hit all of the hydraulics in round 2? Or does the flanker just have like one set of hydraulics and no backup? Or no cable backup?
I think the backup cable system is extra weight and besides it wasn't meant to take heavy damage and still be able to rtb
2nd shot took out the engine starting a fire and exacerbating the spin. 1st hit I assume is modeled in the video game as hitting a hydraulic related component causing a leak which took a while to fully fail, when he departed it look like it locked out full rudder input, assuming the fluid/pressure was fully gone at that point. Flankers are fly by wire, not hydromechanical.
I can’t see how having both for redundancy would work, the whole point of fly-by-wire is that the computer adjusts the flight control surfaces depending on what the pilot requests, but still keeping it within the limits of the aircraft depending on external properties. Having direct connection to the control surfaces kinda negates that
AFAIK fighters generally dont have actual cables. The flight controls have to be irreversible. There are hydromechanical with CAS systems, then fully digital fly by wire, but neither directly physically connects the stick/rudders to the control surfaces. Of course someone will point out an exception, of which there are many, Im sure. I speak generally.
The flanker doesn't have a hydraulic system, it has local hydraulic actuators, say two for a left aileron, and one for the right elevator (pulled the number of actuators out of my ass, dont quote me on them). This is done so that it can survive hits, but more importantly, the flanker's aerodynamic scheme is statically unstable, meaning it requires a fly-by-wire system to constantly correct the jet for instability. In summary, idk why the DCS devs decided to use that line, but it actually has very little to do with the real jet.
GS : I don't like one circle... Su 30 : I took that seriously in the Jf17 video 😂😂😂
Today I learned something too! :)
The 350 - 420kts F-15 corner speed is helpful. Been getting my butt kicked on pvp dogfight with Mig going vertical. Now understand the yo yo so hope to get better
The ground-undefeated.
"I think the fat lady sung" hahaha
Video idea/suggestion: F15 vs F16 BFM and/or BVR
Original Red Dawn: “LtCol Tanner, US Air Force” “I’m an Eagle driver” “How’d you get shot down?” “It was five to one, I got four!”
“Aaaand he hit a tree.” 🤣
"I just flew myself into a tree. What say we keep my name out of this video?"
A worthy opponent. Unless you fight him again, the record is 1-1.
Always love that into…
+1 Like 'cause I was here until the bitter tree end
Do you ever decrease throttle in a dogfight and for what reason? Other than maybe to force an overshoot?
When you are going down vertically it is optimal to decrease throttle so you can be a little slower and have more control/less g's
People in that village in round 3 are like "WTF!?!?!"
*hits tree* "Mark it 8, Dude"