PETROL v DIESEL SHOOTOUT! Should you buy a petrol or a diesel 4WD?
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Is diesel dead?
Are petrol 4WDs really that thirsty?
What does it cost to own a petrol or a diesel 4WD, and which one is really the more economical choice, all things considered?
Join Brenno as he looks at the diesel v petrol debate from an entirely new perspective, to help you make the right choice about your next 4WD.
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Came in to this video thinking it would just be the standard petrol bashing nonsense that 4wders have had on repeat for 30 years (assuming no change in tech the whole way) but was surprised how balanced it was. Well done guys.
Right now I'm comparing 20 year old petrol Padros v diesel Prado. I'm starting to think those petrol ones with often half the miles and better neater conditions is the way to go for camping with the kids
Absolutely love my petrol 4wds currently have a v8 100 series a v6 hilux and a 4.5l 80 series , yeh they are thirsty but cheaper to fix and more fun at high revs
In a modern 4wd, petrol for me. Cheaper to buy, cheaper to service, cheaper parts, fuel economy isnt as bad as the older ones also watch the numerous videos of people testing a y62 patrol against a l200 towing. One of the tests had the y62 use less fuel and could actuakly accelerate uphill vs a lc200 (depending on what type ur 4wd needs, 91 is usually cheaper than diesel anyway). Modern diesels are no better in water crossing with a million sensors, prone to so many problems with modern emission requirements dpf, ad blue etc.
Your defiantly right with the sensors.. I see electrical issues everyday at work due to water on modern diesels.. and that's vehicles that only see puddles from rain on tar roads...
Ive heard that the new rangers wont even start if you run out of ad blue? Hope you dont run out in the bush coz i guarantee its harder to find than petrol
Who uses 91 in a modern petrol v8?
@@elrud5964 no one does but the lc 4.6 and all the yank tanks are rated at 91ron so you can
I'd have to agree, after buying a new diesel car and having to deal with dpfs, egrs and all sorts of diesel related issues, I'd happily go to a petrol 4wd
I've owned numerous GQ patrols, with every factory engine variant. I even had one with a stroked 383 Chev conversion, which was an absolute tyre frying dedicated LPG guzzling monster. (Try and find LPG out in the middle of nowhere) Each have had their own pros and cons. But from now on on, I am sticking with my RB30 powered Patrol. The thing absolutely hammers with a new Holley carburettor and tune, and it is far more economical compared to all the other GQ's I've owned. In addition to that, I can repair any mechanical problem on the side of a track quickly and easily with a few basic tools and spares. Reliability is key, stay away from late model diesels. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah it is an interesting argument for sure. My BIL who does plenty of touring, including towing a camper trailer, and 4wding has owned a 60 & 80 series as well as the Nissan powered Patrol. He had an amazing run out of the Patrol but says that the twin cab Triton, about 2012 I think, is by far the best 4wd he has owned. Many of the old skool 4wd's are now getting very long in the tooth with many many hard k's on them and will eventually get impossible or at least prohibitively expensive to fix before much longer. I own a very late model turbo diesel and it is very capable in most regards. I don't door hard core or really remote stuff and I can't fix much of anything at all let alone a modern vehicle so it doesn't really matter in my case. I did a very thorough search of known issues on various vehicles and checked out owner reports before I bought one and I will turn it over before it has too many k's on it so time will tell if it was the right choice.
@@seanosgood3229 Depends surely on why it stopped? Could be a .50c fuse. The people I know who have bought petrols basically couldn't afford the fuel they used in everyday use and put them on gas which basically defeats the purpose. The usual argument is that diesels, whilst costing more to repair, will need repair much less often or will go much further before problems occur. Whether this is still the case with modern diesels is perhaps debatable but my brother has had 2 Pajeros now, uses them much harder than 99% of users and has never put a spanner on either of them other than scheduled servicing. The petrol Jeep he owned on the other hand......................................... A guy I work with also has a petrol Jeep and basically doesn't use it due to fuel costs. It is broken atm and it isn't worth repairing in his opinion. He is looking at a diesel Triton to replace it and a diesel Courier ute that has done many hundreds of thousands of k's with no problems.
@@oldbloke204 well thats where they stuffed up jeeps are renown for being lemons. The hilux/prado v6, lc v8's, y62 v8 and y61 tb48 have no known issues at all literally none and will all see 400kms without issue if looked after, as for there diesel counterparts well.... haha. As to fuel the petrols seem to use 3-4L to 100kms more so if someone averaged 500kms a week thats only 20L = $30 extra a week a cost which is easily negated by the extra loan repayments and servicing cost of buying a diesel (unless its a tb48 they are that bad)
@@tcmx712 I'm very well aware of their reputations but I was referring to their fuel usage. I find it very hard to believe that the larger capacity petrol motors you are referring to use as little fuel as people say that they do. Bury the foot and they will drink it for sure. My brother has the 3.2lt Pajero Turbo Diesel and has done the same trips in a V8 Diesel 200 series and the difference in fuel usage is very marked indeed. I can only imagine how much a petrol would use. Capped price servicing as well as the long warranties that are around these days mean that there is not that much to spend on either for quite a few years. I will never borrow to buy a car so the only cost for me is opportunity cost on the money I spend. Petrols really aren't that flash in some areas due to hotter exhausts causing vehicles to burn. At the end of it all we can choose what we want to buy for whatever reason. They are all depreciating money pits whichever way you look at it so pick the one you like and go for it.
Please also consider a dpf gets up around 800C. A big fire risk when off road in dry areas.
Awesome video guys, I love my 3.8ltr V6 Gen4 Pajero, great little petrol, she is thirsty but does the job brilliantly and our 2018 Xmas on Rainbow Beach, she pulled our 1.9ton camper trailer like a Kenworth Truck.
I noticed that running a better grade fuel such as 95 or 98 helps alot with fuel economy. A highway trip can get me down to about 11L/100
Loved my 3.5l v6 jackaroo had it for about 5 years was great power and good offroad, now drive a old 80 series 1hz na diesel, absolutely love driving the old bus , good fuel economy, reliable and easy to work on, parts pretty much everywhere, and that suspension set up 😀
Depends on what you’re buying the vehicle for. I bought a 3.2D nw Pajero over a Prado purely on engine reliability. It’s got plenty of power and is good on fuel. 10L/100 average. 11.5L towing a 1+ton camper on the highway. If you want to compare 6cyl old live axle cruiser or 105series, 7k will get you an excellent condition low km one if you’re patient. As opposed to 20+k for a 1hz+t diesel with half a million km. 1hd-fte (best engine ever built)conversions are becoming more popular although quite expensive. So I really comes down to how much you wand to outlay initially as opposed to each week for fuel. You can buy a lot of fuel for the difference in purchase price. My two bob.
Great video - don't forget the second part to economy is travel distance between refuels. I can do over 1200 km's to a tank towing my camper with just the fuel in my standard tanks. My mates are always looking for the next servo and having to carry extra cans or whatever to even get close to my travel distance.
Pretty fair assessment. Remember that when you get that diesel motor, you are going to spend on the tune, catch can and fuel filter.
When I met Jason from All4 Adventure at Noosa a couple of years ago he told me that they AVERAGED 35l/100km in 1VD diesel 200 series towing the boat or toy hauler.
I bought a 96 TD42. Paid 11 spent another 8 or 9 on it. Was 2 owner low km car and needed a number of things replaced/upgraded. Takes 10l of oil, service is oil every 5000ks filters every 10,000ks. No turbo, returns about 13.5l/100kms city or hway. Even using high pressure cleaner under the bonnet starts first kick. Low tech injectors about $1000 a set fitted and last about 500000kms. Chassis is much stronger than new 4x4s. At 332000kms it'll be around long after the new stuff is on the tip! Other thing to consider is modern diesels seem to be going higher tech but smaller capacity. Means higher revs shorter life.
Glad this popped up , currently looking for my 1st 4wd more for it will be an everydayer and used for occasional beach/bush camping , filtered the choices down to Wrangler or FJ cruiser
What country are you from personally in Australia I would get a cruiser hilux or even a patrol before a wrangler or fj
So what did you get? :)
Well said on the DPF stuff. Not a fan, looking forward to the next big thing that replaces them.
I reckon your diesel injection repair costs are very light on especially for common rail diesels. Try getting a quote for injectors and pump on V8 and D4D Tojos . The same for DPFs if need replacing. Also PPFs are a thing now too
Very interesting and informative. Gained a better perspective on the topic. Cheers.
Good vid. I just find my mates with petrols have to keep looking for servos which becomes annoying when we are out there. I own older diesels. I am concerned the new ones are too tricky now
This helped heaps cheers :)
Love my Pajero NS 3.8 V6 Petrol. A bit thirsty but still going strong until now.
The most satisfying part about owning a diesel (ZD-30) is that negligible $5-6k, upfront injector pump cost, when it goes- and that's for a reconditioned one. Give me a petrol quaffing 4ltr, V6 (1GR-FE) any day!
Any sugestion about 1GR-FE when around 200k km mark? What to be aware of?
@@The_Touring_Jedi i know this is a month old.. but just check that what type of oil has been used throught the life of the motor and see if you can hear any VVT Ticks on idle.. its pretty noisey.. but VVT Usually dont fail at the 200k km mark . one extra advice... 1GRs dont like Mineral oils, only use synthetic... unless you want catastrophic failure sooner.
they are Pretty strong motors provided you use Synthethic oil and dont hit the rev limiter way too often... trust me, dont do it. i have blowed up 3 1GRs that way, they like High revving and usually last 400.000/500.000 km.
I notice on your old toyota there was a lpg sticker on the number plate, did you use that when travelling or only on road surfaces..
Thank you very balanced in my view myself looking to go from deisel to petrol purely for serviceability and longevity compared to modern deisel
Hahah the old debate rages on still
dpf not a problem if you drive reasonable kms most trips.Diesel economy also adds up to far superior range.Also modern turbo diesels are fantastic to drive...massive torque
Range is the big benefit not mentioned, especially the variance. Planning a remote trip is normally about range and a huge variation depending on conditions is a real issue for petrol engines.
DPF not a problem , unless you drive a Toyota then you're fucked .
One of the best videos I've seen on the topic. Very comprehensive and unbiased. As a 4.8L petrol Patrol owner it's not often I get to feel lucky hearing about someone elses fuel economy, 46L/100 would have stung 🤣🤣
One extra is overtaking power on the highway, you spend a lot more time flying up the highway at 110km/h doing a cape trip then you do in low range crossing creeks and climbing banks
This is the most balanced explanation I've seen
A couple other benefits to diesel is its low end torque which is great for crawling, another benefit is diesels high compression ratio which is really good for going down steep hills. petrols tend to run away on you and you have to go hard on the breaks.
@David Leane I would say that's more of the exception then the rule. If you compare two similar cars/engines side by side the diesel will always win when it comes to engine braking. In this case I'd definitely argue that a diesel prado will have superior engine braking. I'm not saying that the petrols is rubbish just that the diesels is superior.
My previous 4x4 was petrol. Always had to use the brakes even on moderate decent in low 1st. My diesel 4x4 however in low 1st on steep decent often has my accelerating a little because of how much compression braking it has. Plus, the high compression means a solid build that allows for a exhaust brake to be installed for additional compression braking. But I haven't found the need for that yet. If I was towing heavier trailers a lot, I'd install one and use it in the same way I do in trucks. It's because of this engine braking that I refuse to buy anything other then a diesel for offroad use. Your driving needs may be different and a petrol may suit better, but if you drive the High Country, go diesel.
I have crawl mode in my fj cruiser. No running away for me
must admit I thought this was going to be another petrol bash, and some very good put were mentioned. what was left out here was the fact that most modern diesel don't get a great deal better fuel economy than petrol and fuel economy does drop pretty much the same on both petrol and diesel when towing or using 4x4 low.
I’ve owned a lot of Landcruisers, FJ45 (my first $$$$education for Landcruisers, split transfer box, rear diff implosion, brake rebuild…etc.😂) FJ40 did a V8 253 conversion from 2F motor, beautiful 60 series with factory turbo, a 1998 Prado V6 3.4 awesome 4x4, an old 80 series with 4.5 FZFE… and a HZJ79…with plenty of turbo issues… Currently tossing up between petrol vs. diesel. Always had better experiences with petrol Cruisers. Very informative presentation…cheers.
I love my Fj cruiser with the 4ltr V6. Has 200kw on tap goes everywhere and has never let me down..
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That is a pretty good video. On the availability of Petrol/Opal in remote WA , aka Anne Beadelle Highway, petrol if you need it has to be ordered in advance. Same for a few other tracks like the Canning Stock Route. Hence, I run a diesel. Can you explain please about running a litre of Kero in dirty petrol?
The answer to any diesels fuel quality problem is called Fuel Dr solution. The best and most simple product fix. Your other video with Graham explains it all. Wow amazing stuff that
Mate, thank you for the video , You missed the Ruc charges , here in NZ the road user charges make the diesel 25 c per 100 km more expensive than the petrol, so for me the AWD petrol was the way to go , after i did the math, the only thing it realy boils down to is how often your car goes in for a service OR how often you stop at the filling station
Brenno didnt miss it. His Australian, and thus using australian figures in his videos.
MRMOPARMAN0426 he doesn’t speak for Australia here in NW WA diesel is 12c per litre more at a minimum.
Love the power of a week end TB48
Well done, nice to here a fair comparison. Me, Im a petrol guy mainly because I can repair anything petrol related myself. And as a daily driver, cant beat petrol but in reality, you can even buy a late model petrol 4WD so unfortunately Im stuck in a diesel rut!
Who does injectors before 200k ? , oh sorry you're right , Hilux owners .
46l per 100k. That about what i get on hwy... LS is awesome but loves a drink. 1HDFTE in the tourer😁
These days diesel fuel costs more that ULP, in Europe there are movements trying to ban diesel cars due to emissions which will lead to a fall in diesel vehicle prices and higher diesel fuel costs.
Lots of places in far north WA, like Kimberley, only sell diesel. Stations that don't sell fuel will give you diesel of you're stuck.
Hi, I have the choice between two Mitsubishi Pajero/Shogun: (1) one is a 2018 Petrol with the V6 3000cc engine and 35,000 Km on the clock; (2) the other one is a 2017 Diesel with the R4 3200cc engine and 89,000 Km on the clock. I won't take the car off-road, nor for towing, and drive rather short distances (about 30 min to work and back). Would you recommend me to go for the Petrol or the Diesel? Many thanks, Sm
good info....probably mentioned below...refueling in remote areas via jerry cans etc....much safer with diesel....
Great video! I disregarded petrols until I saw this.
Is a 2.7 liter petrol prado good for off road ding
DPF??? Yep, still feeling it!
fair assessment except that you compared a modern diesel with petrol for economy but an old banger mechanical diesel for servicing!!!
Love my diesel patrol direct injection If you look after a diesel it look after you for a very long time
This apples to any vehicle iv ever owned be it petrol or diesel lol.
It's Metho Not Kero to put in your petrol tank to deal with water
alby1o1 yeh lost me at kero..
@@johnread8269 hey bloke u come from the mob down the road bloke
I'm averaging 19 mpg in my LLY Duramax on 35s 3 inch lift and gear. I also have 330k miles on it.
How do you water proof you're petol 80series Landcruiser? My one stalls in bog holes all the time
Try using a peg on your nose- it'll stay hard for yonks.
I own and have built up a petrol 80 series, cost me 5k to purchase, spent 35k on mods, turbo etc =40k. a vdj 79 series cost roughly costs 80k plus mods plus trip costs.... im already in front 40k to spend on trips compared to a newer 4x4 and im coils all round, twin locked full custom to me and my camping style. parts available everywhere.
Thats the way to go
Lots of good info. But wouldn't Water crossings be an up for the Petrol not a down. A bit of water in the intake of a petrol ain't great but it will be fine. As long as the engine is running it will just spit it out. On a diesel it's super easy to hydrolock and kill the engine.
You hit it right on the nail.
Relevant to your cuzzies over the ditch in NZ. With Diesel road tax being distance base, and petrol tax being charged per litre, there is a substantial advantage to a diesel when you do anything that involves extra consumption, like towing, 4x4ing, or just own a thirsty rig. The break even tax point is about 10L/100km, so if you use any more than that then diesel pays less tax. Handy if you are offroading or towing a big load, where if your petty is using 25L/100km then you are paying 2.5x the road user tax that the diesel does. Different era of technology, but my 3.2D Gen 4 Paj uses less fuel than the 2L 4g63 petrol RVR, while moving almost twice the weight.
2013 y61 manual patrol bought new. Now done 250000 km, still on the original clutch and brake pads. Only thing replaced outside of normal servicing, 1 x fuel rail at 195000 km, due to relief valve, common issue that should be part of the service routine. I would suggest you can’t go past original equipment when it comes to Nissan or Toyota. Every other brand is hit or miss.
Petrol owner here, the catalytic converters can get very hot, making susceptible to start bush fires if you just idle it over tall grass. Diesels tend to run cooler when in low-range. As long as you keep moving and park over gravel and not very tall grass, you'll be fine.
These days the price for 91RON unleaded is often sitting between in the $1.70 - $1.95 range, and is frequently more expensive than diesel by around 20-30 cents per liter.
How tables have turned now!
This video deserves more likes & views!
Cheers Mate, Ashleigh
11:37 Graham's D-Max makes a cameo appearance!
Was that Jocko at 12:12?
My very first 4x4 was a 1974 FJ-40. I worked out that around city general driving.... 22L/100km. Worst I ever got out of the old 2H was 14l/100km general off reading . Was pulling 11's most of the time.
All me mates run diesels, but how many RPMs do they have? Yeah mine got 7,000 ;)
Just buy a Rivian and you can power all your Kings products.
My 2015 diesel uses between 19 to 21 L/100km towing a camper trailer my old mans v6 paj towing a small van 16 L/100km
My old v6 paj used about the same everywhere. Towing, loaded, unloaded, parked in the driveway...
Love my petrol 4x4
Y62 v8 petrol beat the diesel 200 series fuel consumption test towing
And with the price of 95/98 octane petrol vs diesel the petrol costs more to run. But the diesel costs more at service time so it's about the same except the patrol is cheaper from the dealer
Aussie Damo diesel has been consistently more than 98 where I live for a long time, both still over $ 1.50 a litre
@@Aussie_Damo yeah mate.. unfortunately in the NT diesel is almost always more expensive than petrol 🤔
@@wadejensen3301 ah ok im from nsw and diesel is priced between 95 and 98 depending on the servo
@@Aussie_Damo no worries mate....yeah pisses me off no end...but what can you do! Anyways I have a diesel and in the end you drive what you have and what you can afford!
Ecomony whilst towing the same load with petrol and diesel is very similar.
pod frozen maybe downhill or on flat. Hit a hill and watch the petrol drain
@@lexusboy44 I think you have that backwards mate. Idle and cruise diesel wins but under load they are pretty much the same. Pretty good test here kzhead.info/sun/m7WvnLiyhIqsl6c/bejne.html
Exactly
Damian W I could throw my V8 sportswagon, my petrol territory and my 4.2td cruiser in that mix and give you very different results. That video proves nothing
@@lexusboy44 My brother has a diesel I have a petrol and we have done the same test with the same load and got the same result. Diesel not towing 11l/100km towing 28l/100km, petrol not towing 14l/100km towing 25l/100km. Another similar test with similar results. kzhead.info/sun/gq2rfNaMo2R8m6c/bejne.html
At 6:15 when he said picked up some watery petrol put in a litre of kero It should be methylated sprits that will mix with water and let it burn
was thinking the same here , My old Jaguar Daimler specifically said add a litre of methylated spirits to each tank once a month to stop water problems.
ScatManAust it was common bush lore in Australia to add a cup full of meths when refueling from drums or outback stations I am not sure with today’s 5 microns fuel filters and direct injection how that would go
I was getting 240km off 75L in my 1993 Rn106r dual cab hilux.
That is wrong, the TB48 has an oil pan volume of 6.8 liters with filter.
My first EVER diesel..Toyota Prado 3.0D4D bought new, engine died at 141,000km no prior warning symptoms. No compression No.3 cylinder, oil.on No.3 Injector, all injector compensation values out of spec..oh what a feeling! Add $16K to lifecycle costs for a new crate engine 😥
I’m looking at a petrol for next 4wd so over my 07 Prado cracked piston ,get reco motor 12k with new turbo, engine mounts, radiator and so on ,,lasted 12.000 km no compensation 3&4 cylinder, another 8k on another motor ,& fix turbo. My be unlucky but no more diesels for me
Not sure why you started off talking about so called typical 4cylinder petrol and diesel 4wd but when doing the pros and cons you instead showed dinosaur 6 and 8 cylinder engines circa 4.2 to 4.5 litres. I own a 4cyl 2.4 Pajero Sport Auto. Whilst it's computer generated fuelcompuyations are sometimes close to reality they are often out by up to a whopping 15% when compared to actual fill ups in litres divided by the number of hundreds of km. Typically in urban driving with 5km stop starts to 80km stop starts my SUV averages 8.4 litres per 100km compared to the manufacturers claimed he l/100km. That's 5% more which is a significant amount to me especially because the mixture of driving I do has more of the 80km runs than the 5km ones. Now with towing . . . Most forums I have participated in claim fuel increases for towing massively higher for diesels than you say . . . And that I have experienced. I tow an 8.5 metre (overall length) Adria caravan with ensuite, separate shower room club lounge and permanent island oversize double bed. It has a full stove with grill and full size oven. It also has a 190 litre 2 door 3 way fridge freezer. It's Tare weight is 1400kg but it's ATM Is a significant 1700kg and despite its size, cuts through the air better than most Australian made Taj Mahal vans with the same features because it's frontal area is quite rounded and importantly it's single axle and chassis are low, reducing drag. A recent trip of over 3300km yielded a fuel consumption of 14.05 l/100km equating to 65% extra fuel. Whilst because of my sharing in various forums this is deemed to be a great result with most diesel towers using in excess of 20 litres compared to 9 litres not towing. I Can not vouch for the accuracy of what you say towing with a high revving 4cyl petrol of similar capacity might be but it's hard to imagine the penalty for towing with a petrol vehicle not exceeding my 65% difference when considering my vehicles torque (pulling power) is achieved with less revs, less piston metres of travel etc. Your arguments for diesel maintenance being higher I would not contest but whilst modern largish 2.4 litre petrol injected 4 cylinder engines subjected to the extra load of towing like I do I suspect will probably not survive 200000km without a total rebuild but I have knowledge of people getting more than 500,000km out of a Triton not towing but with a caravan like structure bolted onto it's cab chassis. So whilst I enjoyed subjectively the video the factual analysis seemed all over the place and the vehicles portrayed didn't seem to be the typical 4cylinder dual cabs or their wagon derivatives examples. As they say though . . . Never let the truth get in the way of a good story . . . Just kidding. Nest wishes Wayne from Encounter Bay SA
Been off the farm diesel is common that why I pick diesel over petrol and if you run out of fuel for silly reason, petrol on farm is never great.
Diesel for economy 🤣🤣 my td drink nearly 30l per hundo
@@ethanissan5012 lol asking Google 😂😭
@@ethanissan5012 Mate I have a 300hp TD gu it isn't good on fuel 😂
Work in a remote workshop and i am still confused as to where you get 5000k service intervals for any diesel 4wd most are serviced at 10000km and some at 15000km lol
Yep 15k or 12 months on my PajSport but I give it an oil/filter change in between if I am doing a lot of k's or hard offroad work just to be on the safe side. Probably a bit of paranoia on my part but I don't like breaking my toys.
yeah my navara is 10k, my old mans new navara is 20,000
it depends on the kind of oil you are using (mineral, semi, or full synthetic), the kind of driving you do, the kind of filter you have, and how much crap you get in there from blow-by. also, if you have EGR, etc. keep in mind with fixed price servicing etc, the recommended interval could be pushed out beyond what any mechanic would recommend.
I services mine every 5000km
Modern 4wd ( I have a nav) recommend 20k service intervals. I've always done my cars every 10k.
Petrol for the mang
Personally Petrol, easier and cheaper to fix ....a little mods and got urself a beast.
If you look at the land cruiser 200 (4.7L TT V8 diesel) factory test to be 9.5L per 100km and patrol y62 (5.6L N/A tuned V8), factory test to be 14.4L per 100km. But real world driving by everyone that says about it, both get from 13L to 18L, and the Patrol is often lower fuel use. Also, watch the water welding height, both petrol and diesel can get water in the filters, diesel will cost a lot to replace. Compared to the rest of the world, diesel and petrol is a lower quality, and getting dirty diesel and petrol can happen a lot. The good thing with petrol is it can take to some dirt or water through injectors, where diesel can't.
Planing to buy a petrol 4x4 used What will you suggest Y62 patrol v8 Prado v6 200 V8 What is more reliable?
@@tranlee5622 do you want a manual or automatic? Petrol or diesel engine? Amount of Off roading you want to do ? Number of seats? Boot space ? Petrol is more durable for offroading as it takes better to water, but does use a little more fuel. Manual always uses less fuel, and in my experience, manual is much better off road. In my opinion, Nissan Patrol is the better 4x4, Toyota LC200 and Prado are both quite good. A number of people out there go from a LC200 to a Y62, and they love the Y62 more.
I changed the injectors in my 2h cruiser at 670k
Interesting comment about DPF's. I have read that petrols will soon also be coming out with DPF's in an effort to cut emissions even further. I have a feeling that there won't be too many modern 4wd's around to be used in 30 or 40 years like is the case now. Soon they will be hybrid/electric it seems.
Would that be PPF then?? lol. 30 or 40 years is a "long time" 40 years ago there were no lightweight 4x4 utes, single or dual cab... (back then Boncos and Scouts were the sharp end of SUV's.) who knows how things will change in another 40??
@@kadmow Point I was making is that this was the time frame that the 80 series and GQ patrols were starting to come out and they seem to be the ones that many people are comparing to the modern stuff and drawing a conclusion. I doubt that anything around today is going to last that long or be able to be resurrected or kept going like they are/have been. Going on the way the world is going we may not need a 4wd as there will be nowhere worth going anyway.
My first 4WD, a petrol Toyota 4Runner used to get 45L/100km just granny driving round town.🤨
cstmtg haha me too, I had a 2.2 l 4 banger. So good on the beach but omg fuel on the road $$$$$$$$
4ye 12-16L/100km didn't think there was any left whats the odometer at?
No mention of total range as a benefit for diesels? Much easier to get 1200km plus range in a diesel 4wd than a petrol one.
That's a very fair point. Also overlooked the point that carrying cans of diesel is a whole lot safer than petrol! Regards, Damo (1GR-FE enthusiast)
I've got a 1999 2.8 300TDi that gives me 47 mpg on home made bio-diesel, or 42 mpg on regular diesel ! so I don't worry about fuel cost..
is it a disco? also is that with 4wd mods on it like big tires and a lift?
@@patrioticpengu1n Its a mk1 disco, got 2 inch suspension lift 2 inch body lift 18-inch knobbly tyres and a 3 lpm HHO drycell.. It's fantastic and reliable, has never let me down ! I have put it away so I can do some much needed bodywork, so I'm forced to use my TD5 which in comparison to my Mark 1 is an absolute pile of rubbish with too many computers and electrics to be able to have fun in the wet confidently...
@@stephenusher7059 damn might have to get one down under, hopefully parts are not an issue in aus. they seem to be the only solid axle diesel 4wd under $10k AUD
200 series 100k second hand , y62 patrol 85k drive away brand new 😂
keithy That's a good joke,where the hell did ya come up with those numbers.
Roysta D went to Toyota in clarkson the other day they had a 2015 or 16 if I remember correct 2 hungy with 200k plus on the clock for over 80k. I usually go round for a laugh , and I often see on the y62 Facebook page people who have just purchased brand new ones and divulge the purchase prices
I took my father in law to show him the 2nd hand car market as he’s from England and he couldn’t believe people would pay thT much for a second hand car , he said a fool and his money are easily parted
I have owned a zd30 patrol and I have never get close to 10l/100
Petrol is typically cheaper to purchase than diesel I.e 91 ron. After checking today, 91 is 1.25, diesel is 1.43, so diesel doesn’t win economy
Sand driving for petrol but he doesn’t write down rock crawling ability for diesel😂
I own a 4l v6 hilux, average 10.5l /100 in average traffic, 8.5l/100 on the highway, 14.5l towing my 19” caravan. I’ll go the patrol.....
What year model? I get 450km/tank running 33's
hard to beat a 4.7 L lexus V8 overall great engine.
George Lambrinos except when you compare it to a 1hd-fte
@@madrx2 not true at all. 2uzfe best engine ever
@@ToyotaNutjob it might be good in something other than a 3tonne landcruiser
Service you left out spark plugs and price well they might cost more but they last twice as long fuel qaulity well they will run like a hairy goat if you get water in your petrol tank dpfs well just delete them problem solved injector pump as someone who has changed both by the time you pull the car apart it's not any easyer
Fantastic
I have a 100 series landcruiser 4.7L V8 petrol ❤️ it petrol ⛽️is readily available everywhere in Australia 👌 👍
Lets be honest if you are into 4WD the first thing you should do to a diesel is delete that DPF
So no one has been watching the y62 Patrol v diesel Landcruiser shootouts then , fuel economy nothing in it , goes to show how much of a boat anchor the cruiser V8 is . And Toyota is the only one with DPF problems , so .......
Don't shout too much, PPFs are coming to petrol engines too. Some manufactures already have them in current vehicles
Lc are way overrated only lc owners can’t see that
Diesel is always 30c dearer per litre and it never comes down , add up the cost to fill not how much you put in .
Y62 done deal
Absolutely.
my petrol toyota hilux drives lovely on the road and beach, compared to my mates equivalent vehicle which has a diesel engine .... his goes better on steep dirt tracks on the farm towing horse floats etc
Petrol for the dunes!
After 6 diesels i bought petrol..never looked back ,didn't have issues with diesels but found petrol more fun to drive..yeah she drink but so do I..