IMPROVERS CHASING MONEY??? WHATTTT?
2023 ж. 12 Қаң.
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Don't chase money before you are any good at your job because when the pinch comes there is going to be a lot of bad bricklayers out of work who chased money before getting any good.
Your so right I'm a plasterer and I remember an old timer said to me a little bit of money all the time is far better than a lot of many for a little bit of time
It’s all about being consistent and for us building a sustainable, established business. 👌🏻
Building trade apprenticeship schemes in the UK are bollox. In Ireland it takes 4 years to get your national craft cert, dont finish your time and you dont qualify.
Many don’t even do them in uk. Just jump on tools and wing it. Got no issue with that but I do struggle with individuals who want top money when they have no interest in being any thing other than mediocre
Many don’t even do them in uk. Just jump on tools and wing it. Got no issue with that but I do struggle with individuals who want top money when they have no interest in being any thing other than mediocre
Many don’t even do them in uk. Just jump on tools and wing it. Got no issue with that but I do struggle with individuals who want top money when they have no interest in being any thing other than mediocre
@@Levelupconstructionmedia Formal apprentice schemes prevent that as rate of pay are fixed at each respective year. Only once you've qualified do you earn the right to price work and the big buck. Sure there are individuals who without serving a formal apprenticeship can lay brick and may even have a fair idea about the technical details. But I believe compulsory 4 year formal training is the only way the UK can raise the general standard of work in the building trades. There is so much poor standard work being done in the UK and a lack of formal apprenticeship has a lot to answer for it. Rant over
The mad Irish concrete shuttering joiner I worked with was the hardest working man I've met. I mean he was in a t-shirt in the snow with steam radiating from him. His quality was top notch, I learned alot about work ethic from that guy.
3 years experience ain’t enough if your house bashing ‘line rat’. You only learn proper when your setting out extensions, houses on your own, bonding stuff out to work, making sure coins work correctly to head of frame etc. id making dummy gauge rods up etc. there’s a lot more to it than running a line.
Well said 💯
Fact.. give a lad a plan go on there and build that.. that's where you learn
Couldn't agree with you more. Well said. I've seen it myself over the years. 👍
Exactly ...I did a 4 year apprenticeship but I've never stopped learning and picked up plastering ,machine work ,carpentry in 30 odd years in the industry .That way I don't get worried about the weather . Great video by the way ,good luck with your company in the future
If anybody actually hired improvers then we wouldn’t have to lie and wing it.
hmmm interesting perspective
People do take improvers, u just hve to lie about experience, but confidence is key
Well said, great advise.
Thanks Richard 🙏🏻
Watched a good few of your shorts Top class work Well done
Much appreciated!
Well said. Not just bricklayers tho. All trades are the same
Yeah all tradesmen can be blinded by money before they are good
Yeah all tradesmen can be blinded by money before they are good
When you earn Ur money that day over tho!?! 😂 Na im 44 still do 7:30-4:30 every day loyalty comes with time, Great Advice
Don’t run before you can walk as they say
I’m an improver, im on 160, well underpaid as I keep getting told and my work shows but I have this mindset. I like not having too too much pressure on myself, I could walk and get more but my confidence isn’t there yet. If you lived in the south east I’d love a start but ya don’t 😊 enjoy the videos
I remember the 70s building bubble. Anybody could go on the 'lump' skilled ort not. Some shocking results.
Mate great advice
Thank youn🙏🏻👌🏻
Well said, love the Video's 💖
cheers billy
4 years apprentice in Ireland
As an apprentice I see people get blue cards in a matter of weeks on full money so I constantly want to ask for more money
Asking for a pay rise is cool as an apprentice I did it many times but jumping on to being a bricklayer when you don’t know all aspects of the trade is asking to be laid off when work tightens. All the mediocre Bricky’s that chased money before becoming really good will be out of work when the pinch comes
Be patient, who doesn’t want more money. But what happens when your on full money and then asked to set something out and you have no knowledge of. You make urself look a prick
@@1973miniclubman well said mate. top money means you should be able to do all aspects of bricklaying not just putting bricks on a wall.
Wise words
good advice mate
Very true same in all trades
You have to almost go through the dirt to appreciate the wage, seen a few skipping the que and they need brought back to fundamentals but they already have the tradesman’s ego so no chance that happening, good video 🫡
Exactly that mate, once they get a bit of decent money it’s so hard for them to stay in a learner mindset 😔
fuuuuuckin sooo true
This only works if you are given the time to practice. SOOO many companies just use improvers as labourers and you dont get the time to improve it forces you to push up!
Very true
Lol you look like that ole snooker player 😂😂
Too true
Same with chippies. Do the fake site based Nvq and all of a sudden they think their the same level as a 10 year fully qualified carpenter. Untill the deduction sheets start rolling in. 😂😂
I actually wanted to spray paint my gold card to a blue card when I passed. The expectation bar is already set high, and although I was a very tidy trowel. I was slow as a snail because quality was all that I wanted...... that don't pay. Also it takes atleasy twice as long to set out and check before you dare commit. I charged 150 per day at 1st and that seemed fair to everyone. I was slow but it was plumb and easy on the eye.
Quality first speed second mate, speed comes in time. Fundamentals first everything else off the back of that 👌🏻
You'll never tell them types of idiots mate be lucky mukka
Well said
Cheers Stephen 🤙🏻
I did a bricklaying course in Detention Center (1973). It didn't make me a trowel but it gave me a taste for the building game . Carried the hod for a few years and practiced laying every spare minute . Became a bricklayer over 45 years ago and at 67 (next Friday) am still doung a bit . 👍🏴
That’s awesome John. 👌🏻🙏🏻
@@Levelupconstructionmedia And I still go 10 course with 7n concrete blocks just to wind the youngsters up . 😜🏴
@@johnbowkett80 haha you still got it mate 👌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Im looking for a compnay too put me fro my nvq ive got my level 2 bricklaying diploma and been passing with meritts and destringson have photos of my work too
Here’s a question. What sort of money would you pay someone straight off there apprenticeship or does that all come down to ability?
1005 comes down to ability make. Ill pay lads what they are worth
How much would you pay a good labourer, just wondering.
£145 a shift mate
If a improver lays the same amount as a bricklayer and is reasonably neat pay the improver the proper money
If they are as good as the bricklayer I agree my grievance is with lads that aren’t as good, get the money because of the skills shortage then stop being teachable. I agree with being paid what we they are worth
@@Levelupconstructionmedia everyday is a school day 👍 xx
Me 4 years into a trade happy to get paid 60 a day 😐😐
Ilost count of subies, ripping bricklayers off aswell. And i bet its still going on. Get your own work, only way to go!!!
I had a young lad wanting work , 18 or so an he said he only lays bricks nothing else ?!?! I asked if he’d be willing to muck in load out etc ? NO. HE SAID HE WANTS TO Learn !! Lmao not for me thanks . You start from the bottom up and build your gang from within. It always works . The li get they stick at it the higher up the ladder they go with pay as a reflection. It’s simple.
Imagine starting a job as an 18 year old and dictating what you will be doing. I wouldn’t entertain it. Wrong attitude from the start 🙈
@@Levelupconstructionmedia honestly I wish I could show you messages I get on these bricklaying groups ffs it’s a joke , every man n his dog wants top dollar because they’ve read Tommy Walsh book of bricklaying lolol you got that first lift up with the stone window frames in ?! I think I commented on the splash course video a while back .
@@fabiandegussion5134 😂😂 sounds about right 🤣
I appreciate your advice.Would you say the same for Electricians ?
It’s the same in every job and trade, get good! There is ALWAYS room for the best no matter what the economy is doing. 💯💯
This goes to all trades & these diy"ers cut corner's left right & centre maybe watching ticktok & KZhead videos it's terrible to see the rubbish work thats out there at the moment because there allowed to get away with ! ✌️☘️🇮🇪
See if all the time. Work for five minutes then want top money or start advertising to work for themselves. Reason so much shit work out there
🤣😂🤣😂🤣 So charge less for the same thing. Get good at business mate the price they're charging ain't gona change how good they are 👍
Get good a business?
@@Levelupconstructionmedia get good AT BUSINESS. Business people take as much money as the can for a job no matter what those people might be better business people than tradespeople you know what I mean.
@@toddsullivan596 business is the thing I love more than actually laying. I love my job but business is the buzz for me 💯
@@Levelupconstructionmedia If that's true then my advice to you is no matter what the job is or what anyone one says about rate or price it's your life and you should sell it for what you think it's worth.
Dont listen to this lads don’t let some know it all tell you not to chase good money chase the money and get better faster bricklaying is easy literally it’s the easiest trade there is and you can get excellent at it quickly choose the right teams to be with learn from them and don’t let others put you off chasing money otherwise you’ll be the last to the front of any que (bricklaying for over 25 years this advice is not advice it’s he’s opinion)
100% just my opinion based on my experience, like i said many times in my vids im not right or wrong just how i see it. Im all for lads getting head just think get good first
Does this apply to painters and decorators.? 😂
100% mate
@@Levelupconstructionmedia ok pal only messin’ 😒
Nonsense it don’t take 3 years to learn to be a bricklayer. People want an apprentice for 3 years because they earn money from them . If you want to be a bricklayer on a new build site you will pick it up it 6 months easy .
To be able to put bricks on a wall yes. I’m talking about being a very good bricklayer so when the recession comes, no one is very good after 6 months
That’s the difference between a bricklayer and a bricklayer laying to a line on a site..In 6 months I guarantee you cant learn all you are shown in a 3/4 year apprenticeship…not knocking guys who lay to a line with profiles all day just wouldn’t rely on them to set my house out after 6 months
Yeah make a Subbie rich
aint no apprentice making subbies rich. They are a cost to the business first year or so.
Thanks god
Lol