Putin under pressure to execute Moscow terror attack suspects | Keir Giles
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"What you have here is a terrorist attack on a terrorist country and a terrorist society which is responding in kind."
The Kremlin is facing calls to bring back the death penalty for the four suspects arrested in connection with the Crocus City Hall terror attack, Chatham House's Keir Giles tells #timesradio
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It wouldn’t matter if the court sentenced them to 2 weeks in prison they are not coming out alive
They will be mobilized, like any other convict in the putin's russia. Then, they will be pardoned. russia is a freaking joke
Paroled to the Ukraine front line
@@dickymint9908No, not them...
Probably gonna be offered a position in the Wagner Group
I don't think anyone is pretending they like terrorists. It doesn't matter what country it is.
One of the best comments thus far. You are 100% correct. At least something everyone can agree on!
Why would you let yourself get taken alive by Russian authorities...
The reported sequence of events that night makes it seem very unlikely these guys are the terrorists however, we are unlikely to ever know the truth
They're used to Western and EU police. They were expecting a nice hotel, lawyers, positive media and a green card.
@@JCT442who cares ? It’s russias problem
They dropped their guns
@@JCT442'we'll never really know' lol 😅😅😅 Yes, how could we possibly know if the guys arrested were the guys who committed the attack. It's not like there's a bunch of footage clearly showing them committing the attacks
I don't think this has anything to do with Ukraine, but it's strange that so called ISIS terrorists allowed themselves to be taken alive.
You're assuming Russia actually caught the perpetrators and not some poor immigrants who were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Given the circumstances surrounding the arrests, I don't believe putin actually caught the attackers.
these are just 4 taxi drivers. Putin's people don't care if they are really the terrorists, they just need to blame someone.
They forgot to shout ali Akbar as well.
@@user-li1bg5ex5e They tried to get away, and they do not always shout that. In mumbai they did not. And they tried to get away in mumbai too. Same style of coldly shooting at random people for money going to their family .
@@user-li1bg5ex5eyes they did shout it Watch the actual videos not media editing
Seeing more sympathy for terrorists in the comments than the victims.
It's disgusting.
Sickening.
I'm guessing that the "guy" in the wheelchair is already dead and the others soon will be the same and they'll end up dead under mysterious circumstances
Oh well...
@@nikkijayne4451 honestly I'm surprised that Putin has allowed these "guys" to live for as long as they have
@@MrCHAIRMANOFTHEBOREDthey’re good for content creation
He looks dead. What people probably don't know that the body moves around as the brain shutsdown.
Yes, we maybe never know who really the terrorists were.
It seems these guys will represent anyone who has ever offended Russia
100%
It is because you never tested human rights You have lived in a dictatorship
Bot
Joined KZhead five months ago - you must be one of the post-Wagner intake of trolls.
@@SuperMookles he's speaking fact.
Russia does not need the death penalty , Russia is the Death Penalty lol
They don't need to bring back the death penalty, look what happened to Navalny.
Согласен что возвращать НЕ надо!!!!!
Or Gonzalo Lira 😅😂😅
Navalny was CIA. He also was a sick man.
Navalny took a lot of money from the CIA.
Yeh, because the US has never done anything like that has it ?
Irrelevant
@user-fh8gt9nw5f its relevant because its a bit rich criticising a country for something that they themselves do, at a much worse level..
I think that Mike Tyson already interrogated those guys, himself. The guy who is in the wheelchair is he actually in a coma or is he actually dead and still waiting for his own trial.
With this style of questioning, you can get just about anyone to admit being a terrorist.
A bit like Guantanamo Bay, you mean.
@@b.nichols3255 yes and no.
@@b.nichols3255nobody arguing that it doesn’t work, which is why it was abandoned
@@shitmandood But it didn't work for America and it hasn't been abandoned.
All you woke lot thinking that they just want them to admit they're terrorists. They get so much more information. The world has gone so soft. You see a bit of swelling or bit of blood and think this doesn't happen every single second to someone different. If someone is willing to spray lead into a crowd of civies then they have given any of their rights up.
If they are guilty why would they let themselves be taken alive?
Because they aren't the attackers. Just some random immigrants to scapegoat for the attack
@@michaelscott5653ok Kamala
@@michaelscott5653No, they were found near the scene. ISIS claimed the attack. They know who did it. If Russia had the wrong people Isis would say.
@@michaelscott5653if you don't know anything, just shut up. There's video footage of the attack so shut up
@@michaelscott5653 Apart from ISIS releasing self filmed videos of them carrying out the attacks.
looks like they found 4 taxi drivers to take the blame
Yep 4 taxi drivers, which one is your dad?😅
He was with your mum@@bichhuonglove70
@@JuliusFawcettOhhh we’ve got a “your mother” fight over here everyone 📢 📢 📢 📢😂
@@CursedWheelieBinhell yeah let’s get it 😂
@@JuliusFawcettI agree with your comment and glad there is someone with some sense however.. I’m here to partake in the your mum fight. Mate your mum is so big she jumped on a weighing scale and it said N/A
Nobody will know of they are guilty or not
You mean the way white people do black people in the United States.
Exactly but we wouldn't have known anyway because the judiciary is full of ex fsb stooges
Yap, don't believe in your own lying eyes!!! Just what your state propaganda sad...
It looks Vova is a pirate “Dead men tell no tales”
It could be staged by kgb … maybe real terrorist escaped? They made it up so Putin doesn’t even look weaker?
Putin is weaker and weaker everyday
Joe Biden?? Smart and strong??? No way , Putin out smart and intelligent ! Putin close friends with Islamic Countries!!
Sorry, i dissagree. Russia is completely allowed to ask who put the terrorists up to it - and they are hitmen not terrorists, they did it for money, terrorists do it for martydom - so thats the first problem with the whole scenario. With 50 years of history of inteligence agencies fiddling in other countries business, with Germany and the rest unable to produce their reports on Noordsteam why shouldnt Russia be suspicious? They should look deeper into who planned the attacks, if they dont, it may happen again. Just because someone stood up and said it was them does not mean it was them and does raise the question of what their motivation was. Where does the Isis video come from, who made it, how was it received, what evidence is there to link the video to the attacks, who is to say someone did not pay Isis to stand up and take the blame ? That video is after all just a bunch of blokes with face coverings on and a flag behind them making statements..... thats not proof of a single thing, that video could of been shot by anyone anywhere, its not proof of anything. There are still too many unanswered questions and to suggest Russia just accept it because others wont question it in the detail it requires is farsicle. As for the terrorists being beaten up, shame, like i said, they did it for payment and that makes them murderers not terrorists, their motivation was money offered by someone or other.
Nobody puts islamic stste up to anything. They have their own agenda.
What would you call the Russians in Ukraine? Terrorists? Hitmen? Murderers?
On Redacted they presented strong evidence that the 2004 Beslan school attacks were committed by Al Queada militants funded by none other than the CIA.
They enter the bear cave. What do you think their looks will be like after?😅
Ever since Putin was warned by the West of a high liklihood of a terrorist attack on Moscow, Putin had planned to use the fear and anger that such an attack would generate to solidify his political support and enhance his depiction of himself as the savior of the Russian Empire. He hoped that a terrorist attack would take the focus off of his disastrous handling of the illegal war he conducted against Ukraine. He'll have to go back to the drawing board now and try to come up with new scapegoats and bogey men.
He had the highest ever support in history just before the attack, so your propaganda fails apart there.
I highly doubt that. I think they're stretched thin on investigators since they are running around like gestapo in Ukrainian occupied territories. These ISIS guys have hit many countries around the world. It's a myth that anyone is fully secured from these things happening. They went to Moscow cause that's where the Taliban announced they were setting up closer ties to the Russian government.
Sure, he is desperate to gather more support after such a flop at the elections 😂
I don’t believe they are the ones who did it
Of course you don’t…. These idiots recorded themselves in the concert hall
Opinions are like rusty washers ie everybody has one
Get rid of the evidence,, How sweet is that?
you reap what you sow
Really?
@@felixdk8727yes, really.
What a primitive mind you have
Evidence that they even were the culprits? Also, does that mean that Putin and his clique will face justice too one day then? They commit terrorist attacks on a daily basis
Like 9/11? 7/7? Manchester and so many more?
Terrorist vs Terrorists?
They are not islamists. they say they were paid to do this terror attack.
500 k rubel... really? For 4 people? 5.380 $...In the most secured City? With police everywhere? And after you know, and people from USSR Region know, what police is doing, if they get you..?
its never islamists is it?
@@sunflower9115 Have you been in Moscow? What are you talking about???
If Islam did it ! These men may be just scapegoats!
FSB payout
Terrorist group vs terrorist state...
138 people who was killed
Who is to know wether or not that person is guilt?
Russian intelligence know and that’s all that matters to them, I don’t think they care whether you or I know.
Moscow got a one little bite of what they have been doing daily in Ukraine for 2 years now. It looks like they do not like it.!
And Russia is a United Nations member
A permanent security council member
disband the UN now.
And russia just got the place in the council after USSR collapsed.
Sorry buddy but did you forget they killed 150 civilians?
Russia has permanent veto power.
Do you think his attitude would be the same if it was Ukraine where this happened, and not Russia ??? No neither do i..
How about the UK?
Like america when Russia warned them about the Boston marathon didn't listen
ISIS is an invention United States
Russia spelled Tamerlan Tsarnaev's name wrong. Sneaky Russia.
I have doubts that these people are actually responsible for the attack
It’s fairly clear they are the perpetrators. Who organised them is another question.
So you think Russian intelligence is that bad that 4 mass murderers happened to escape despite being on camera and they found random people? That’s a huge insult to their intelligence and is ludicrous.
Apparently, even the mother of the one in the wheelchair doesn't have doubts about it(((
Do we even know for sure that the people arrested were involved?
I think the men they picked up in a car are already dead by the state of them, they are not Islamic state.
whatever
Whom ever you mean,@@richay1 You honestly think a terrorist of Islamic state wouldn't have blown themselves up.
Who are they then
@@mistabam8279 Russia knows who they are and will find out who hired them.
I don't think that they were sent there by the Islamic State. They might be under the impression that they were though
Like the Americans have nothing to do with misinformation!
Scapegoats
They perpetrated the actual killing. They are not the brains, but they are killers
Proof?
How do GUN MAN ENTER A private concert hall ??
Walking?
What lies in the embers? We will never know. What have the people accused to say? We will never know.
The local security services had time to walk there and back and there again before entering
If they got caught in Britain they would get a complementary glass of champagne and a five star accommodation then asked how are you feeling are you upset...
Times Radio defending ISIS, new low
yep.
No just typical of the left wing Times Radio.
@@Cornz38 Putin knows full well that ISIS is a U.S. creation, one of their go-to scapegoat patsies and proxy terror groups . . . and discerning minds know who controls the U.S.
They're not defending ISIS, they're just pointing out Russia aren't any better in how they treat people. They do the same to people who call Putin a nuisance, mercs doing terrorist work aren't a special case.
@@bcluett1697 well he is a dictator but msm is fully riding our own propaganda gravy train too.
0:59 Getting info out of this guy was like, "Pulling teeth," one guy said
o well when 9/11 happend they found the pasport of the guy flying on the ground it fell from the plane that flew in the towers and ppl said o sure , so why not these 4 random ppl its convienient for russia
That passport photo bugged me too.
Israeli intelligence watched the Arabs planning. Probably helped. Just like they were warned and knew of the planning of the Oct invasion. By their own border guards.
United States government attacked its own people just like this
Ever heard what happened to people that landed in Guatanamo? There was a guy how got tortured for month or years but finally it turned out that he was innocent. Methods are the same all over the World.
Irrelevant
Did you hear about those terrorists that hijacked a plane in the U.K. .jack straw said all will be deported,non were and they all lived very happily and free at the taxpayers expense
Why is Russia being blamed after this terror attack?
Why is Russia blaming everyone after this attack?
Whether any of these 4 men that were tortured are the actual terrorists IDK. What I do know is none of them are one of the terrorists that was captured on video. These men are all small and one of the gunmen wearing his baseball cap backwards carrying a rifle was large and muscular.
The youngest looked the biggest, but he seemed to have been shot and is in the wheelchair now
But Keir Giles is the same guy who a couple of days ago was saying with the same level of authority that these prisoners werent the same people at all, they were just randomly grabbed on the street to avoid any connection to Isis
Russia does not have the death penalty
Yet
Not officially but ppl seem to die mysteriously in the gulags
Well, no, it can be reinstated: "Capital punishment is a legal penalty in Russia, but is not used due to a moratorium and no death sentences or executions have been carried out since 2 August 1996. Russia has had an implicit moratorium in place since one was established by President Boris Yeltsin in 1996, and explicitly established by the Constitutional Court of Russia in 1999 and reaffirmed in 2009."
@@shitmandood That's true.
Russia prison itself IS. Ask Navalny.
Think Russia should give a fair trial to the evil people who carried out terrorist attacks on Russia and who have suffered loss and sadness set aside wars. people died including innocent children who had their whole lives to look forward to taken from loved ones. we all cry for the Russian Citizens mourning maybe not our government in the UK but the real people who care.
I grabbed a pinch of salt to season some pork chops right when he said take this with a pinch of salt lol
Is it even a question?
Casualties are high one side
Well consider what recall Navalny ?
why are my comments being erased within seconds, although I express myself in moderate terms??
I can´t even see the answers I get to my complaint
Questioning the narrative is terrorism.
because youtube is such a weak platfrom, it dare not say anything that doesnt smell of glittery unicorn farts. Or, YT likes to censor anything and everything. Im in the same boat as you, utterly non offensive comments deleted in seconds
Happens to me too but if I refresh the page , my comments are there 😊
This can happen automatically. KZhead does some analysis on comments and will hide ones that contain anything it considers inappropriate
Eye is missing,he said 😅😅
You see what the gentleman said? They may or may not be the actual people involved. It doesn’t matter with Russia
And why exactly is that gentleman the greatest expert in Russia?
this guy sounds like hes conserned about the helth of his agents :D
I can only imagine the horror this poor guys are going through now, they can be anyone picked up in the street
Poor guy's? You mean the guys who carried out an attack against innocent civilians?
@@BIZZYBSTRDdepends what you mean by innocent
@@BIZZYBSTRD Well done! You just demonstrated the perseverance to read the entire first half of one sentence.
@@BIZZYBSTRDWhere is the evidence?
@BIZZYBSTRD you need a proper court case to establish guilt
According to youtube or this admin you cannot write the words that are said in this video, eg: death penalty, as in imagine how the Kremlin will use the death penalty once it is introduced.
Times Radio doing what it does best........ spewing raw sewage.
Americans in Cuba
I am writing to express my deepest sorrow and condolences for the recent tragic events that unfolded in Moscow. The unexpected gun shooting and bomb firing attacks on fellow citizens attending a theatre celebration in a large hall have left me utterly devastated. It is truly heartbreaking to hear about such senseless acts of violence perpetrated by extremist rebels. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families during this incredibly difficult time. The loss and suffering caused by these reprehensible actions are unimaginable. I want to extend my sincerest sympathies to the people of Russia as they mourn the loss of their loved ones and grapple with the aftermath of this tragedy. May they find strength, solace, and unity in the face of adversity. In times like these, it is crucial for us to stand together in solidarity against terrorism and extremism. I believe that by fostering understanding, compassion, and cooperation, we can overcome such challenges and build a safer, more peaceful world for future generations. Please convey my heartfelt condolences to all those affected by this tragedy. I hope that justice will be served, and that steps will be taken to follow up and prevent before such atrocities occurring
Yes... As opposed to how the US deal with terrorists they capture which is, "oh no look they accidentally got unalived before the trial" and then sometimes they get dumped in the sea or maybe all that's left of them is a perfectly good working Saudi passport 🤷🏻♂️
How about Guantamano ?
That was also wrong and completely indefensible. And a clear demonstration that if you torture people, they'll tend to tell you want they think you want to hear, rather than the actual truth, just in the hopes you'll stop the torture. But given ISIS' normal MO of "martyrdom" and self immolation, these people escaping after nearly an hour and a half and then being captured alive just rings hollow. Are they the actual killers, or just four guys of the right ethnicity plucked from obscurity so that the the russian public has someone to stone? No one is ever going to know the truth.
Excellent point. Hypocrisy of this fake news is apparent.
Irrelevant
@@jackduane5555 laughable
@@weissomar185 yes, you are
Life in prison -- there's a contradiction. Can I imagine more dismay than waking up to prison every day? Isn't death a just punishment, if punishment is what life meant? Death, more so than breath -- breath being a hopeful sign, that life means more than being confined. Life in prison; what's to be said for life, outside of prison, being dead? Better Red? Remember when -- that's all we ever talked about, back then?
I dont think anyone will respect russian tactics after seeing this, nor will they find the trial remotely fair. These men may or may not be guilty. In either case whoever case there are no excuses for this level of brutality. I would hate to live in Russia because could not live freely as one who belives in honest debate and reasoning. Its a shame for all who live in fear and where bribery is rife in many other countries too.
The rock group Picnic playing at the concert have a new song with scary lyrics, that almost seem prophetic. The deaths at the concert are a terrible tragedy.
That concert was indeed no picnic.
Wherefore did you so?
Just a quick note: Having such a long ending messes up Peoples Autoplay and Playlists... Thanks for the interview!
What a BS
"Times Radios the election station" screen saver, wallpaper thingy needs updating for instance Ed Davey is a no-body and you're not showing Richard Tice leader of Reform UK and for contrast and inclusivity also the election of George Galloway how can we take Times Radio seriously when they're already behind the curve...🤔
You cant take Times radio seriously, it is a Murdoch propaganda channel.
Get rid of the evidence
The hate toward Russian is just beyond me,how you blaming Putin on this ? How many terror attack had happened in Uk and America,this man is so out of touch with truth
Look up Moscow 1999, find out the real orchestrors, triggered 2nd invasion of checyna
Making sure they never speak the true 😅
they dont consider anything 🖕
the real suspects considered themselves dead anyway even before the attack
Know what Moscow tells you to.
Putin finally has lost his mind. The pressure he can't handle.
3:25 Pretend it's Oct 7, and change some names around. Hmmm
Those are not the responsible!
That's obvious
How do u know?
@@straightup1234 tale a look at them .any forced confession is not reliable .that's are escape goat
Wheres your evidence ?
Im pare rău pt oamenii
creo qué después de lo qué hicieron estos criminales, pretendan tratarlos como huéspedes distinguidos, como el trato que recibieron los terroristas en Guantanamo!!!!!
❤❤❤❤❤🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 ❤❤❤❤
Patsies betrayed by a 'drill'.
Because what Putin is doing, will their tourism suffer.
Where is Israel?
Alla didn't help them get away then ?
To say that the USA is a perfect nation wont be a true or accurate analytical statement of the US foreign policy and geo-politics over the past 75 or so years..However to say that the US is the greatest nation on earth and that it's God's greatest gift to mankind is irrefutable. To think that the USA would warn Russia of an impending terrorist attack on its soil at this point in time is an incredible case in point!! May God protect, guide, and bless the United States in every way.
ISIS and Russia facing eachother down for a terrible-off.
They had to put some people in front of the cameras. The actual perpetrators are probably still out there.
There's video footage 🤦
Such a dumb take. You think Russian intelligence is that dumb that they allowed 4 mass murderers on camera escape and found random people instead? Unbelievable.
Wash what about mawww human rights
These poor sods (migrants, beggars, street dwellers?) - wherever they were found by the Russian police - look like scapegoats proper. Slava Ukrayïni!
Do you not care about innocent people being murdered, just so long as they're russian? Pity for killers, but not the slain... don't let your sanity slip away. Comments like yours convince people that ukraine is evil and russia is good. Probably better to have some tact and respectful awareness, if you're looking to convince others of your way of thinking.
Enjoy your novichoc sandwiches boys😂
No. Novichoc is for when they want to fail at poisoning someone in a rival country and leave evidence by using Russian brand poison.
Black Dolphin, solitary.
So Russia is going to be a civilized country, just like the US.
I will never visit russia never ever 😢 imagine being tourist and muslim at thr same time and thing happens damn
Then youre a fool & an ignorant fool at that.
I've been to Russia as a tourist and the first thing you learn is that they do NOT like anyone who isn't Russian. Xenophobia is the national characteristic .
@@ThePlatafI met kids from Chernobyl as some sort of charitable thing where they are fostered in the uk temporarily. They were the rudest, most ignorant kids I’ve ever met.
@@Disinfo321Chernobyl is in Ukraine.
@@MS-ii1sv our college tutor said they were Russian though, maybe she’s just an idiot.
"A medieval society and a medieval state" My god, this man is completely bonkers.
The west farms its torture out to Saudi Arabia so as not to appear medieval.
Why do you say so? Russia has been behaving in a medieval way for many years now.
Well, how would YOU describe its primitive behaviour?
The guys speaks the truth. The state should not be cutting off an ear and force feeding it to a suspect. It is mediaeval. Where's the formal process to establish guilt? It is no robust it is just emotional and too much trust is being put into the Russian authorities they didnt even show up at the massacre.Strange Russian civilians
Russia appears to be a strange contradiction between the modern world and the old. It seems that in some places people do live in mediaeval circumstances.
Amnesty international
Losers International
AI, how ironic
That guy said "they slit his ear & shoved it in his mouth" 😅 I'm done with mainstream media 🤦
They did actually do that, they filmed it and the video is on Twitter
I wish I knew about world so little as you do
Another spin wizard here