Hi-Point / MAWL at MOGO24: Wheels Come Off the Struggle Bus
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For my Active Division run during the staff match portion of Moons Out Goons Out 2024, I set up a 9mm Hi-Point carbine with a BE Meyers MAWL last unit. Great laser; terrible gun. My hypothesis was that the gun itself didn't really matter so long as it was reliable and accurate enough to hit a silhouette at ~125 yards. The Hi-Point met those criteria, but I failed to recognize just how much its reloading and other manual of arms elements would hinder me. The MAWL was fantastic, and is the only reason my performance wasn't absolutely dismal.
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10 round mags isn't that bad man, I was reloading a lever action!!!! Even if I timed out on most stages I'll still say I had the most fun running the lever gun. Except for when I had to reload.
DAVE THE LEVERGUN MAN! you may not have won the match you may have racked up more than my flight time in penalties. But you won our hearts. or something.
As your RO I can confirm you had more fun than anyone else!
Speed tubes for your lever gun, or feeding them one at a time from a belt? (Henry vs Winchester?) Either way, amazing :D
Using a Hi-Point at a night vision event is just hilarious. The most expensive/tactical kind of shooting & Ian rolls up with a single stack Hi-Point lol.
How you know all the money got dumped into the NVGs
Great. Now hi point carbines will be worth gold....lol😂
If not for the time penalties he'd have had a great score.. should have taken either a couple 20 round red ball mags or a 40 round promag drum
Very cool being able to see each bullet as it flies downrange due to the illuminator.
Ian McCollum, MAWL cop. ^-^ Coming to a theater near you! In the dark, no one can hear your high point malfunction!
I love how you candidly speak about your runs and go through it all, flattering or otherwise. These are always fun to watch!
Let it be known on this day. Gun Jeasus said "More Reloads, not good." However "Less reloads, is good."
Moons Out Goons Out seems like an absolutely awesome time.
Me after watching 25 minutes of Ian struggling with a hi-point. "I don't know what I was expecting"
I literally said that while watching it and I’m glad I’m not alone 🤝
Keep in mind it was mostly a manual of arms issue and being reliant on single stack 10-round magazines from what Ian has presented so far.
And a really bad trigger
@@muffins4tots Bad...but Consistent *shrugs* I mean it could always be worse
Ian is the perfect combination of scholar and practitioner.
Dude, the amount of bots in KZhead comments it's crazy, they need to start figuring this thing out.
Nice comment, human!
Shits lowkey eerie
This comment is majestic. So touching. Icons of bananas etc.
womp womp
As a large language Model...😂
These competition videos are just so interesting. Many Thanks for getting us a ringside seat and opinion on the equipment. Don't you all have massive sympathy with service people having to cope with kit failures in the dark to save their lives in real combat ?
Of course the Finns make thier stage "Meth Lab in the Woods." We're lucky it wasn't The Dudesons's farm.
We honestly don't have that many meth labs in the woods. Distillerys on the other hand...
@@jkausti6737For 'meth' I read it as Methylated Spirit, or Wood Alcohol.
I love how the color NV camera seems to be capturing the outgoing projos. Like firing a grenade launcher and watching your rounds sail downrange.
The gun definitely does matter, especially when wearing NODs
"Meth Lab in the Woods" So northern Michigan?
@Forgotten Weapons Have you ever thought of setting up two stages where the shooter must use an oddball battlefield pick up to get back to their main gear? One that I would recommend is a factory standard Ruger 10/22 with no changes to the sights and being stuck with a mixed bag of 10-round magazines with varying numbers of rounds in said magazines (a few partial and a few fully loaded). Maybe have the shooter pick up the 10/22 with an empty chamber and empty mag. Whatcha' think man?
Soldier of F̶i̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ Fortune staged some matches at their Las Vegas conventions that had a stage like that. One I recall reading about had the shooter come up to a beat up revolver and a handful of loose rounds lying next to it. One shooter couldn't get the cylinder open, so he engaged the target with his Kabar (friggin' Marines 😂 )
Dude he doesn't play video games, there's no way he does stupid fortnight stuff
@@Dh4v0c Just an idea
this would be cool to see, especially if it's something ridiculous. Like a auto mag or calico.
The titles of the stages are pretty creative..
I still cant tell if the hi point is an april fools
A poor artist blames his tools! ...unless it's a Hi-Point. Then it's probably the tool's fault.
How about something like a Taurus Curve?
One design idea of the UZI sub-machine gun is the magazine in the grip allows you to reload easier in the dark as your hands can find themselves. You ran this with an AR platform and a platform with the magazine in the grip. Did you find this design philosophy had any merit? I mean you could not get the magazine seated, but could you at least find the magazine well better than with the AR?
Even realizing that Ian's using a laser, watching him hip-shoot just looks weird, after all these years of emphasis on shouldering a rifle to aim.
Now this looks like a fun event!
Happy Easter
That's lamest April Fools I've seen.
Jesus has risen
But , did he see his shadow ?
Moons out Goons out sounds like it went unreasonably hard. I imagine some really good skills and people tested during this.
Great video!
That logo is cool as hell, need that on a shirt
They should have made parts of the stages of trench portion were you had to crawl from point to point. In reality running even when you think natural covers has your back, there is always a sniper looking for you even if there's no sniper.
Honestly, the Hi-Point carbines are fairly solid for being a $400 ish
Fun & games now, useful skills needed later on
Hi-Point CF380! The gun everyone loves to hate but…??reasons. It’s loved by some. Just a personal opinion but you’re *much* better off with a Bersa Thunder 380…or a Taurus. Or a Turkish 1911. Or a Rock Island Armory / Armscor M200 .38 Special revolver…or a S&W SD9/SD9VE series. Yes, I know, all those are more expensive than Hi-Points but they’re only slightly more expensive than Hi-Points. I recommend the SD9/SD9VE and SD40/SD40VE to people. Same with the Bersa pistols. I don’t recommend the Hi-Points.
Everyone hates Hi-Points pistols, but most people I have talked to have no issues with their carbines.
The Hi Point 995 carbine is a fun, inexpensive, dependable firearm but it isn't a AR or AK. If you are use to running those none of those firearms manipulations translate to the Hi Point. It has its own manual of arms and you must learn them to be proficient. KZheadrs continually run HPs without putting in the time to learn its manipulation. Ian runs FALs, AKs, ARs and Lebels but the Hi Point, no so much. He also decided to do so at night, under nods. He went all in and I appreciate the honesty and entertainment.
Sounds like slam pads added to the mag floorplates would be a smart investment. *If* one wanted to use a Hippie, that is.
Perfect for 1 April video...a totally serious April Fool's gag!
Hi-point is manufactured in my home town. you can pick them up for pretty much nothing here. id still never own one.
My cousin was the same way. Until I brought out my jhp45acp hi point and completely dominated him and his fancy kimber in a few games of battleship. Guess who sold their kimber😂
@american7169 nah its not about their performance. they are just heavy, awkward and ugly as hell. those hp 45 are enormous. I laughed so hard I couldn't breath the first time I seen one.
@@cookro27 pounds is not heavy at all for a gun with a 16+ inch barrel I personally think they are handy and reliable rifles with a track record of saving peoples lives. I might not ever buy one, but I can’t throw shade at it either.
How much for one?
@dubya4915 the carbines are ok really. the pistols on the other hand. like I said it's not about the performance. it's more that they look god awfull.
14:51 "You'll notice, I have the bipod deployed on the Hi-Point here". What an odd, odd thing to say.
Helllllll yeah, let's go gun Jesus! Happy belated Easter brother 😅 if you celebrate it that is. Much love from Florida
Running an optic (so to speak) that cost several times what the weapon costs, was a grest way to test your theory, the mawl was awesome but even such a high class sight cant make up for the inherent issues with "every mans gun" hipoint. when put to extremes
Nice
Nice to see the mag retention. It always bugs me to watch videos like this but have shooters dropping mags all over the course. When I was in the USMC, I was always issued 2 mags. Throwing them away was not an option.
Wait, what? We only supply two mags for Marines? Clearly I've never been in the Military but that seems... Low...
@@chrisjackson1215 Maybe I should admit that I was what you might call support personnel. Never got into combat. But that was my experience, and I am sure that the guys doing the actual shooting were not throwing away mags.
now that is a title for a video
Looks fun, would love to participate in a future match.
love the purple hair
It looks really fun. But I wonder how much orientation is required for the darkness, even with really good vision gear?
Why was the only sponsor you didn't mention TREX Arms?
Also wondering that
Next year fauvorite - "trenches of Poland"
Trenches of Texas
For many of those stages were you required to fire essentially from the hip, or it was just easier that way for you?
imagine scoring lower than the guy with the hipoint lol, ill admit the hipoint is far from the ideal weapon for a night vision course but it performed pretty well for being what it is.
The rifles are pretty good for what they are.
"Battlestar Galactica" larping but it is on budget
The gun doesn't matter if it meet some bare minimums...the high point just didn't quite do it.
Wait, did you run the High-Point specifically to upload this on April Fools, or was it just a happy accident?
If you want to go budget on a match like this, you would've had a much better time with a suppressed FGC-9 mkii. Glock mags and easier reloading. I also thought you were going to use the 30 super carry version, since it's like the French long 😅
That’s awesome that you are using a budget gun lol
Personally I believ you confirmed your hipothesis (assuming it was: HighQuality Light and aiming module is more important then rifle itselfe). You didin't end the match last. To be precise in 3rd quart overall. I think that proves your hipothesis. It would be good to run this match with this light and better gun, and then with Hi-Point and poor aming module.
How does a shot timer pick up subsonic 9mm out of a silencer?
Attempt n°5 : Make a video about the Springfield 1871.
I have not heard what caliber your HiPoint was 9mm, 10mm, or .45 ACP ? Just curious .
9mm
This proved out to be an interesting match to watch, but made more so by your experiment about using a low tech rifle and a high tech sighting device. If you were just shooting in the desert for fun, the faults of the Hi-Point would have been an annoyance. But here they were magnified by being under the clock, and cost you a crap-ton (which is more than a metric ton) of penalty points.
Where would you have placed if you'd had that time but no penalties?
Somehow @Varusteleka and meth lab make sense to me 😂
I think your basic premise that the gun doesn't matter is sound, you just took it to far. I think a better premise is that the gun does not matter if it has certain features. I.E. semi-automatic function, an appropriate caliber for the ranges you will shoot at, magazines that are easily changed, the ability to mount optics/lasers/etc. and to mount them in the appropriate places for the device. I think magazine capacity while a factor is less important then a design that allows the magazines to be rapidly changed and for the magazine to lock in place easily. I saw a video from this match where the competitor used an AR platform and had an issue with his mags locking in place on one stage because he overloaded them and tried to insert them with the bolt forward. The capacity issue seems to come into play with the requirement to retain empty magazines. That could probably be made easier with changes to gear. More easily accessed dump pouch or something.
What kind of nods were you using?
DTNVS
So , forget the Hi Point ? Because that's my takeaway here .
🤷♂️ it wasn’t a jam-0-matic .
Yeah the trigger is definitely nothing to write home about, unless you like to complain then you have plenty 😅😅😅
Is Ian’s hair dyed purple here or is it an artifact of the camera?
Who’s the weirdo with the Hi-Point? Ohh…
He didn't have a French PCC he could easily mount a laser/illuminator to. 😂
Shaky cam real bad here
Why did you April Fools yourself with this?
Early gang frickin assemble
The exact opposite of this would be an AR with a Beta Mag.
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I can't belive you didn't run your weapons before hand to get acquainted them. Was thus not allowed?. Any one that knows hi point knows they use simple mags and that hi points need to be man handled as well the 9mm extended mags do leave much to be desired of. I like the 45 much better in that regard and the 45 pistol and carbine are a good match using the same ammo. I like the 9mm as my edc in my shoulder holster. Next time practice before such an important event
I would say not being able to seat the magazine correctly by feel IS a malfunction. If there's a problem with the magazine/feed system, and it stops the firearm from working, that's a malfunction. I'd even call it a FTF malfunction. Because it did cause the weapon to fail to feed.
omg he uploaded
Was this filmed on a toaster oven?
A toaster oven thats turning night into day with pretty decent color definition... Definitely need to find that model
This is filmed in IR on a scionyx, this is quite good lol
234th lol
Any money to spare, Ian?
This gimmick is so tired
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Nice