Who Is GOAT According to Statistics || Messi Vs Ronaldo

2023 ж. 11 Қаң.
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  • This is the most forced debate of all time. Messi is clearly the better football player. Every person who understands this sport knows that .

    @ModernFootball866@ModernFootball866 Жыл бұрын
    • Tito: I totally disagree with you. Do you really know my uncle?

      @terefefeyssa877@terefefeyssa877 Жыл бұрын
    • People who have played football know that😎

      @ggff8385@ggff8385 Жыл бұрын
    • @@terefefeyssa877 Who ever yor uncle is, do you realy listen to him ??????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

      @gomessylvester205@gomessylvester205 Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly, i mean Federer vs Nadal is a fair comparison, but this one is just forced and stupid tbh

      @diegolisandror2@diegolisandror2 Жыл бұрын
    • without a doubt

      @btfpl4872@btfpl4872 Жыл бұрын
  • Ronaldo: speaks he's better Messi: Acts he's better

    @GD23245@GD23245 Жыл бұрын
    • 👎👎👎

      @dexterous0215@dexterous0215 Жыл бұрын
    • @@dexterous0215 ronaldo several times has said that’s hes better then messi while messi he barely even talks about ronaldo and looking at records individual awards and stats messi is the best in all 3 of them

      @naradiprabaswara8390@naradiprabaswara8390 Жыл бұрын
    • @@naradiprabaswara8390 👎

      @dexterous0215@dexterous0215 Жыл бұрын
    • @@naradiprabaswara8390 in an interview Messi was asked where he sees Ronaldo. He replied he sees him in his own level/league/status( something like that). U don't even know what you are saying.👎

      @dexterous0215@dexterous0215 Жыл бұрын
    • @@dexterous0215 well then ronaldo has said many times that’s he’s better than has messi never claimed himself to the goat no,but his stats and individual awards,trophies show it not words

      @naradiprabaswara8390@naradiprabaswara8390 Жыл бұрын
  • "There's a huge difference between being a great player and a great goalscorer.". - by someone

    @KOPShawn@KOPShawn Жыл бұрын
    • Messi is both, the best player and goal scorer. Messi is the best Assists player, best createdr and goal scorer.

      @RamonAcosta191@RamonAcosta191 Жыл бұрын
    • _ cruyff

      @Stoplookingatmynameowpe@Stoplookingatmynameowpe Жыл бұрын
    • by non other than the great johan cryuff

      @coc3startricks67@coc3startricks67 Жыл бұрын
    • @@RamonAcosta191 what about ronaldo

      @zestyrizzler_445@zestyrizzler_445 Жыл бұрын
    • @entixityy CR7 is Great Goal Scorer and Good Assist provider. But Messi is just better.

      @RamonAcosta191@RamonAcosta191 Жыл бұрын
  • Messi dances with the ball in the same way Fred Astaire used to dance with Ginger Rogers! Such a classy act!

    @colorin81colorado@colorin81colorado Жыл бұрын
    • Fred Astaire died June 22, 1987 and Messi was born 24 June 1987. A day after, Coincident?

      @JF..@JF.. Жыл бұрын
    • @@JF.. wow, wow, wow! A very interesting fact!

      @colorin81colorado@colorin81colorado Жыл бұрын
    • ONLY 9 PLAYERS IN HISTORY to have won the BIG 3 World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or 1.Lionel Messi 2.Bobby Charlton 3.Franz Beckenbauer 4.Gerd Müller 5.Paolo Rossi 6.Zinedine Zidane 7.Rivaldo 8.Ronaldinho 9.Kaká Only 2 players in history have won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or + golden boot 👟 🇦🇷 Messi 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller Only 1 player in history has won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Copa America 🏆 + Balon D’Or (7) + golden boot 👟 + 2 x Golden ball (only person with 2 since 1932) ⚽️ + IFFHS worlds best play maker ⚽️ + most man of the match awards (league and international in history ) + most international player of the tournaments awards in history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Since 1932 Most goals + assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (1,143) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (1,111) 🥉 🇵🇹 Ronaldo CR7 (1,053) Most goals + Assist in world cup history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (21) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (20) Most goals in major international tournaments (World Cup + main contintental tournaments) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (26 goals) 🥈 🇧🇷 Ronaldo R9 (25 goals) 🥉 🇦🇷 Gabriel Batistuta (23 goals) Most assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 386 assists) 🥈 🇩🇪 Thomas Muller (294) (Includes Friendlies) Most goals in a calendar year since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (91 goals 2012) 🥈 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller (85 goals 1972) 🥉 🇧🇷 Pele (75 goals 1958) Only player in history to win Man of the Match in every round at a World Cup (Groups, R16, QF, SF, F and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 ) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Only player in history to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals, final and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi --------------------- Only player in history to win Best Player, Golden Boot, most MOTMs and win the trophy in a major international tournament and to win it 🏆 (Copa America 2021) 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Not only that but to have every single statistic in his name also 👇 Stat Leaders in UEFA Euro 2021, Most goals - 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (5) Most assists - 🇨🇭 Steven Zuber (4) Most free kicks - Damsgaard (1) Most key passes - 🇮🇹 Marco Veratti (14) Most chances created - 🇧🇪 De Bruyne (16) Most successful dribbles - 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Sterling (23) Most accurate through balls -🇪🇸 Pedri (4) Most shot creating actions -🇪🇸 Pedri (27) Most goal creating actions - 🇪🇸 Pedri (5) Stat Leaders in Copa América 2021, Most goals - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (4) Most assists -🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (5) Most free kicks - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (2) Most key passes - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (22) Most chances created - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (26) Most successful dribbles-🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (36) Most goal creating actions-🇦🇷Lionel Messi (8) Most shot creating actions🇦🇷Lionel Messi(46) Most accurate through balls🇦🇷 LionelMessi(4) Most goals in 🇦🇷 Argentina history 🥇 Messi (98 goals) 🥈 Garbriel Batistuta (54 goals) 🥉 Sergio Aguero (41 goals) ------------- Most goals for a single club in history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (672) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (643) ------------- MAN OF THE MATCHES Most man of the matches in football history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 310 man of the match awards) 🥈 Second place 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (175) Since 1932 The only player to win 2 player of the tournaments and 2 golden balls at the world cup since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi The most player of the tournaments in international football since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi

      @check4566@check4566 Жыл бұрын
    • @@check4566 How many fake stats you want to create lol 😂

      @kssam8888@kssam8888 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kssam8888 You gonna say which ones is fake?

      @check4566@check4566 Жыл бұрын
  • Messi is an organizer, he is the Architect of the team, he plans everything and execute with surgical precision, he constantly draws opponents to him to create pockets of space for his teammates to move in. Ronaldo is that guy that runs in a 4 x 100m relay as the 4th runner because he wants to cross the finish line himself, guess what, he still waiting for the stick to be handed to him. Ronaldo's biggest achievement is to be compared to Messi.

    @excelsiorproducts6569@excelsiorproducts6569 Жыл бұрын
    • Messi might be the most overrated player of all time

      @kssam8888@kssam8888 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kssam8888 looks like someone has been crying since 18th December

      @Averagewaterdispenser7223@Averagewaterdispenser7223 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kssam8888 Looking at Messi's achievements and still be compared to the rest is the opposite of overrated, comparing the rest to Messi meaning Messi is the best, you don't compare the best to the worst, it's the other way round, to be compared to Messi is an achievement on it's own, ask CR7, he opened up in that Pierce Morgan interview, quote 'its because of Messi I became a better footballer'

      @excelsiorproducts6569@excelsiorproducts6569 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kssam8888 Cr7 chases Messi shadow. Messi didn't compete with anyone, he's in the league of his own. Comparing Cr7 with Messi is the most stupid thing to do. You can compare Maradona and Pele but not tapin penaldoski merchant called CRY7😁😀🤣

      @aafootballtipstv4474@aafootballtipstv44747 ай бұрын
    • ​@@kssam8888heavy drugs spotted

      @giulio_yt651@giulio_yt6516 ай бұрын
  • In my point of view it is not the trophies only.yes,trophies are the most valuable achievements.. But the main fact is art... And surely,surely and Again surely messi is the art,his playing activities are the art... That's why he is the magician!!! Like Maradona ❤️❤️❤️❤️

    @quotesforlife6560@quotesforlife6560 Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly I no my football Maradona was my mentor in 80s 90s and now my son has Messi as his idol

      @mark7831@mark7831 Жыл бұрын
    • can't agreed more, a race apart

      @zhangbenson5475@zhangbenson5475 Жыл бұрын
    • Trophies are team achievements not individual,

      @wamnicho@wamnicho Жыл бұрын
    • ONLY 9 PLAYERS IN HISTORY to have won the BIG 3 World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or 1.Lionel Messi 2.Bobby Charlton 3.Franz Beckenbauer 4.Gerd Müller 5.Paolo Rossi 6.Zinedine Zidane 7.Rivaldo 8.Ronaldinho 9.Kaká Only 2 players in history have won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or + golden boot 👟 🇦🇷 Messi 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller Only 1 player in history has won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Copa America 🏆 + Balon D’Or (7) + golden boot 👟 + 2 x Golden ball (only person with 2 since 1932) ⚽️ + IFFHS worlds best play maker ⚽️ + most man of the match awards (league and international in history ) + most international player of the tournaments awards in history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Since 1932 Most goals + assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (1,143) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (1,111) 🥉 🇵🇹 Ronaldo CR7 (1,053) Most goals + Assist in world cup history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (21) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (20) Most goals in major international tournaments (World Cup + main contintental tournaments) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (26 goals) 🥈 🇧🇷 Ronaldo R9 (25 goals) 🥉 🇦🇷 Gabriel Batistuta (23 goals) Most assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 386 assists) 🥈 🇩🇪 Thomas Muller (294) (Includes Friendlies) Most goals in a calendar year since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (91 goals 2012) 🥈 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller (85 goals 1972) 🥉 🇧🇷 Pele (75 goals 1958) Only player in history to win Man of the Match in every round at a World Cup (Groups, R16, QF, SF, F and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 ) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Only player in history to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals, final and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi --------------------- Only player in history to win Best Player, Golden Boot, most MOTMs and win the trophy in a major international tournament and to win it 🏆 (Copa America 2021) 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Not only that but to have every single statistic in his name also 👇 Stat Leaders in UEFA Euro 2021, Most goals - 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (5) Most assists - 🇨🇭 Steven Zuber (4) Most free kicks - Damsgaard (1) Most key passes - 🇮🇹 Marco Veratti (14) Most chances created - 🇧🇪 De Bruyne (16) Most successful dribbles - 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Sterling (23) Most accurate through balls -🇪🇸 Pedri (4) Most shot creating actions -🇪🇸 Pedri (27) Most goal creating actions - 🇪🇸 Pedri (5) Stat Leaders in Copa América 2021, Most goals - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (4) Most assists -🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (5) Most free kicks - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (2) Most key passes - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (22) Most chances created - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (26) Most successful dribbles-🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (36) Most goal creating actions-🇦🇷Lionel Messi (8) Most shot creating actions🇦🇷Lionel Messi(46) Most accurate through balls🇦🇷 LionelMessi(4) Most goals in 🇦🇷 Argentina history 🥇 Messi (98 goals) 🥈 Garbriel Batistuta (54 goals) 🥉 Sergio Aguero (41 goals) ------------- Most goals for a single club in history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (672) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (643) ------------- MAN OF THE MATCHES Most man of the matches in football history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 310 man of the match awards) 🥈 Second place 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (175) Since 1932 The only player to win 2 player of the tournaments and 2 golden balls at the world cup since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi The most player of the tournaments in international football since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi

      @check4566@check4566 Жыл бұрын
    • @@check4566honestly that right there should settle the debate

      @mtrajano973@mtrajano9737 ай бұрын
  • ​It was over a decade ago. This year it's just been certified in the biggest of stage.

    @factcheck5767@factcheck5767 Жыл бұрын
    • it was over a decade ago cuz cr7 won 3 ucl in a row finishing the goat debate ON THE BIGGEST STAGE OF FOOTBALL, the ucl, world cup is the 2nd, and still cr7 is bigger with national teams.

      @michaeljordan310@michaeljordan3102 ай бұрын
    • the world cup is 100 percent bigger than the ucl the world cup happens every 4 years and the ucl happens every season the world cup is clearly more prestigious.@@michaeljordan310

      @ebaka4639@ebaka46392 ай бұрын
    • ​💀💀 UCL>WC @@michaeljordan310

      @ABBADON521@ABBADON5212 ай бұрын
    • ​@@michaeljordan310 Average ronaldo fan 😂😂😂....how tf UCL is ahead of world cup?

      @M_maara_chozhan2969@M_maara_chozhan29692 ай бұрын
    • ​@@michaeljordan310if that makes you feel better then then ok 😂😂😂😂😂😂. This foolishness of Ronaldo's fans is turning into something else 😂😂😂

      @TheCloveOne@TheCloveOneАй бұрын
  • Messi without trophies would continue to be better than the rest. Just watch him play.

    @jorgeroldan1883@jorgeroldan1883 Жыл бұрын
    • Watched him play now i want to redebate but actually ronaldo wins

      @sppedben6095@sppedben6095 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@sppedben6095 cope

      @giannisms1861@giannisms186111 ай бұрын
    • Watching them play only reinforces my belief that Ronaldo is better

      @cjmarthins1128@cjmarthins112811 ай бұрын
    • @@cjmarthins1128 I don't watch Camel league,! As long as they were in Europe Messi was light years ahead ! 2009 was already the deciding factor and I knew there and then Ronaldo would never come close to Messi ! 2022 WC was the Testimony to my opinion formed in 2009. Ronaldo warmed the bench and Messi won the Cup and the Golden Ball !

      @gomessylvester205@gomessylvester20511 ай бұрын
    • ​@@cjmarthins1128 one player after 2014 only scores tap ins and if he can't score he doesn't do anything else on the field unlike messi who can score and create

      @25slyfox@25slyfox11 ай бұрын
  • Messi has scored hundreds of goals while also having the most assists in history, he clearly makes his team better in every aspect. Ronaldo doesn’t even have a fraction of Messi’s assists, he’s a good goal scorer unfortunately Football is more than scoring, in most other aspects of the game Messi miles better.

    @chefizzy2238@chefizzy2238 Жыл бұрын
    • I'm pretty sure scoring a goal is the whole point of the game...

      @Havickgamingyt@Havickgamingyt Жыл бұрын
    • Messi is the sole reason why goals are created. for a large minority of Ronaldo's career goals are created for him. thats the difference between those two

      @steffandua2047@steffandua2047 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@Havickgamingyt well in that case u dont know football. For u defenders goalkeepers passers dribblers have no value. Only those who score goals have value as ccording to u.

      @anwaremritte@anwaremritte Жыл бұрын
    • @@Havickgamingyt a lot more to the game than scoring, if you played you’d know. If it was just about scoring there be more than 2-3 goals a game

      @chefizzy2238@chefizzy2238 Жыл бұрын
    • @@steffandua2047bro really just said messi the reason why goals are a thing😂😂

      @Elistic4443d@Elistic4443d Жыл бұрын
  • Messi is two players in one. Now he has shown the world he can do all the things he was unfairly critized for. Win big tournaments. Scoring and assisting. A leader in all sense of the word. As good as C Ronaldo is, I can't say the aforemention qualities. Messi clearly is better. Argentina campeones gracias seleccion! 🇦🇷🏆

    @hefipaleburp9543@hefipaleburp9543 Жыл бұрын
    • If messi is two players in one than Ronaldo is straight up a one man army, he’s shown the ability to just become an entire team if need be, Messi has always played with other superstars

      @cjmarthins1128@cjmarthins112811 ай бұрын
    • @@cjmarthins1128 Read what you just wrote. Analyze it. Come back corrected.

      @hefipaleburp9543@hefipaleburp954311 ай бұрын
    • ​@@cjmarthins1128 so since he's a one man army what happened at the world cup 😂.

      @25slyfox@25slyfox11 ай бұрын
    • ​@@cjmarthins1128messi is better goal scorer,better assister and better playmaker After 1000+ games and 800+ goals and 350+assists😂

      @MrEpic6996@MrEpic699610 ай бұрын
    • @@cjmarthins1128 better player = superstars why do you think Ronaldo started at scp Porto but Messi started at Barcelona? speaks for itself.

      @smelly6982@smelly69828 ай бұрын
  • You didn’t mention the 2 golden ball he won at World Cup in 2014 and 2022

    @guarapo66@guarapo66 Жыл бұрын
    • He robbed both so it does'nt matter

      @BallXKnowledge@BallXKnowledge Жыл бұрын
    • @@BallXKnowledge According to FootballXEDITZ, Messi's golden balls are robbed so he must give them back😡

      @IceCold-zk9cp@IceCold-zk9cp Жыл бұрын
    • Simply said robbed 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. Jealousy is difficult to cure 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. 5 UCL and 5 Ballon d'or by Penaldo also robbed 😭😭😭😅😅😅

      @cycm5@cycm5 Жыл бұрын
    • @@cycm5 look at Pessi in UCL🤡🤡🤡 invisible as always, we don’t see him when it’s not penalties

      @danielgedeon6454@danielgedeon6454 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@danielgedeon6454messi has only won 1 champions League less than Ronaldo bruh and how is he invisible? In 2009 he scored a banging header in the final

      @yeet_editzofficial@yeet_editzofficial Жыл бұрын
  • I am trying to see the rational for this debate for years and I can't see it. Only those who watch sports news only would debate that CR7 is close to Messi. Everyone who watch football knows that the debate is farcical and forced. Messi is the goat hands down. Messi is night and day better # 🐐

    @talismantheone643@talismantheone643 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes

      @funnykitten2927@funnykitten2927 Жыл бұрын
    • 💯

      @RamonAcosta191@RamonAcosta191 Жыл бұрын
    • 💯👌,

      @ChangeYourLife1122@ChangeYourLife1122 Жыл бұрын
    • The debate was settled in 2009 when Messi beat Ronaldo in the UCL Final. They forced it to - until Messi wins an international, though Ronaldo didn’t win an International until 2016 that too from the bench. It should have been “Till Ronaldo beats Messi in a UCL final” ! Ronaldo-holics inflated his stats with that International achievement ( bench trophy)! When Messi won the COPA they said - not as good as EURO. Now he won the WC. Now they have nothing to say - so they are trying to tarnish his achievements.

      @gomessylvester205@gomessylvester205 Жыл бұрын
    • @@gomessylvester205 well said, truth hurts

      @ChangeYourLife1122@ChangeYourLife1122 Жыл бұрын
  • Cr7 is simply liked through sentiments and desire of flair. Messi is The embodiment of football genius in many aspects of the sports. Not to minimize CR7 skills. Messi has the receipts.

    @GaryCoolCoolCutterWilson@GaryCoolCoolCutterWilson Жыл бұрын
    • Bro teaches Peter Drury

      @kaushikravi9229@kaushikravi9229 Жыл бұрын
    • - pessi bot

      @dexterous0215@dexterous0215 Жыл бұрын
    • @@dexterous0215 if messi is a bot then ronaldo is a penalty merchant

      @naradiprabaswara8390@naradiprabaswara8390 Жыл бұрын
    • @@naradiprabaswara8390 - pessibot

      @dexterous0215@dexterous0215 Жыл бұрын
    • @@dexterous0215 You are disastrous!

      @gomessylvester205@gomessylvester2059 ай бұрын
  • In terms of numbers, one thing always gets ignored when it is IMHO actually the tie breaker: Messi: 5.22 shots per goal Ronaldo: 6.43 shots per goal Paired with the minutes-per-goal stat and the goals-per-game stat the big picture becomes clear. Ronaldo took more shots per game (i.e. chances that needed to be created for him) while still scoring fewer goals per game. Add to that Messi's superior playmaking qualities (as mirrored in the number of assists) and the debate is settled, at least in terms of objective criteria. On a subjective level, there will always be many reasons to prefer one over the other. And that is fine. Christiano's achievements are beyond impressive. Anyone who tries to downplay that for the sake of some GOAT debate is just a hater and/or fanboy. Same goes for endless claims of Messi's achievements being marred by playing for Barcelona for so long and inflationary use of the term "farmer league". What a giant pile of BS. Cheers everyone.

    @helmberteisenschnauzer7233@helmberteisenschnauzer7233 Жыл бұрын
    • tbh, I think Messi is just better liked, stats aside, one is a humble, family man who is liked and revered by all teammates, coaches and an entire nation, while the other is arrogant and dive a lot. His diving tendency alone is enough to tarnish his legacy in my eyes.

      @vutunglam3934@vutunglam39348 ай бұрын
    • ​@@vutunglam3934i dont think that diving hurts ronaldos legacy, but he is a butthurt person and arrigant. Plus messi is simply better

      @giannismargaris9553@giannismargaris95538 ай бұрын
    • Because the shots per goal stat is so stupid that's why lmao.

      @joshiler2157@joshiler21577 ай бұрын
    • @@joshiler2157 not really. Ronaldo takes more chances per game thats why he scores a lot.

      @giannismargaris9553@giannismargaris95537 ай бұрын
    • Messi having better shots per game shows Messi as a better and more efficient finisher. Add to that Messi still has more non-penalty goals than Ronaldo. Ronaldo just has more power, more shot power. Messi has more finesse, more precision-except on penalties. Messi can chip both with his weak foot. Not sure Ronaldo can. Yes Ronaldo is better with his head. But overall, if I'm to pick a striker of the two, I'd pick Messi.

      @cosmosokpighe4962@cosmosokpighe49625 ай бұрын
  • Guys, the goat debate never existed, Messi will stay as the goat until he dies, I respect Ronaldo but, the guy is best at finishing and physicality, but Messi is out of this world , regard their trophies and individual awards,but Messi is not a human when it comes to playing, you mentioned that Ronaldo is 142 games ahead of Messi, Messi has 792 goals and cr7 has 819 goals, that's 27 goals away from Messi, imagine if Messi was to play 142, probably he was going to have more goals than Ronaldo, but still the ratio is low , guys, according to my conclusion,Messi is the number one best player of all time and I see Ronaldo as someone who is doing he's best to reach the level of Messi, which he cannot and he will never😅, we always tell them the same thing, no one can defeat the God of football himself, so people let's stop putting Messi and cr7 as if they were on the same level, Messi is on other level that no one could describe, finish and clear 😎😎

    @ChangeYourLife1122@ChangeYourLife1122 Жыл бұрын
    • Messi has 794 goals now hes wrong in this video

      @shaquillethomas1544@shaquillethomas1544 Жыл бұрын
    • Messi is the Goat we all knows that

      @shaquillethomas1544@shaquillethomas1544 Жыл бұрын
    • Explain 7 goals 5 penalties then

      @kamilw1507@kamilw1507 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kamilw1507?? Cr7 has more penalty goals than messi. What r u saying

      @greninja7669@greninja7669 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kamilw1507 explain why we call that dude Penaldo first

      @ameeer3@ameeer3 Жыл бұрын
  • Messi is Maradona's playmaking and Pelé's finishing in one player!

    @tiagofernandes8389@tiagofernandes8389 Жыл бұрын
  • Messi is the GOAT. Case closed.

    @jkxclusive295@jkxclusive295 Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly how is this even a debate

      @spicynugget_0294@spicynugget_0294 Жыл бұрын
    • Ronaldo.

      @kamilw1507@kamilw1507 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kamilw1507 why exactly?

      @willrichdouwenga5173@willrichdouwenga5173 Жыл бұрын
    • @@willrichdouwenga5173 He has a six pack

      @SouthJohnston@SouthJohnston8 ай бұрын
    • he also works 10 times as hard@@SouthJohnston

      @celsiusisbetterthanfarenheit@celsiusisbetterthanfarenheit7 ай бұрын
  • As someone who was a huge Ronaldo fan in the Real Madrid era around 2014-2015, I can say Ronaldo has really fallen off due to his primadonna nature and I can't say I'm a fan of him anymore. He is still incredibly skilled, but Messi is much humbler and isn't out to fight with coaches/teammates/staff at the clubs he plays for. The whole Man United drama really soured my opinion of him. I have a lot more respect for Messi than Ronaldo now and do think Messi is the better player overall, especially now that time has passed and we can see how Messi has evolved.

    @theitechlab@theitechlab10 ай бұрын
    • Facts. Plus messi was always better than ronaldo

      @giannismargaris9553@giannismargaris95538 ай бұрын
    • Agree

      @jacobin1632@jacobin16326 ай бұрын
    • U based ur judgment of the best player based on their character? Talking strictly about football, Messi is still way better than Ronaldo.

      @seo9ja572@seo9ja5726 ай бұрын
    • Now that's the real football fan not like some toxic fans can't accept the fact , well I'm Barca fan from 2009 Messi is my fav. Player he is always better but somehow I used to like Ronaldo scoring ability with some style but with his attitude overtime I don't like him anymore he loose his dignity .

      @Endvi459@Endvi4595 ай бұрын
    • Bro I'm die hard United fan I became fan of United cause of Cr7 I was like obsessed with this guy when I was little I cursed Messi and so on even prayed that he lose the wc final against Germany which it happened and I was celebrating, however I was tired defending Ronaldo like seriously when are u gonna grow up I became a man before he became one it's just constant arrogance and dives and stealing teammates spotlight he acts like a little kid but he is nothing special if you take away his teammates, I understood Messi is on whole different level and I'm glad I will die Messi fan he is just a pure example of a perfect footballer and talent deserves all the success can't hate this guy anymore Ronaldo made me like him sorry.not sorry

      @slepk7898@slepk78985 ай бұрын
  • Player-wise not a debate, goalscoring-wise it was a debate

    @kopanomoss5752@kopanomoss5752 Жыл бұрын
  • Its 794 goals not 793,the goal he scored against Angers made it 794 and messi is the Goat,stats prove it

    @shaquillethomas1544@shaquillethomas1544 Жыл бұрын
    • tell him because this guy is a cristiano fan he can't end the debate

      @manzialvinthierry3031@manzialvinthierry3031 Жыл бұрын
    • Pessi

      @kamilw1507@kamilw1507 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kamilw1507 cry

      @greninja7669@greninja7669 Жыл бұрын
    • Remove all stats, and you just watch Messi. Pure art.

      @juulutpoulsen3018@juulutpoulsen3018 Жыл бұрын
    • @@manzialvinthierry3031 yea bro majority of them are just delusional

      @shaquillethomas1544@shaquillethomas1544 Жыл бұрын
  • It was never a question for me.. for me Ronaldo perhaps the most complete scorer.. cz he doesn't have any weakness in terms of scoring goals.. but Leo Messi is simply the best.. way ahead of others.. forget world cup or UCL or any awards.. someone who is undoubtedly the greatest dribbler of all time.. one of the best passers.. one of the best free kick taker .. probably the best playmaker n one of the greatest scorer aswell.. how do u wanna compare him with anyone... Leave messi alone then compare others.. basketball Michael Jordan.. cricket Sachin tendulker.. boxing Muhammad Ali.. football Leo Messi... Goat

    @iamovi4147@iamovi4147 Жыл бұрын
    • Ty for describing this perfectly brother. Cristiano Ronaldo for me is probably the best scorer brilliant positioning, shooting, weak foot. Messi is overall complete football player. Pretty much does everything on the pitch and at a good rate. The trophies are team achievement and should not be counted for saying about individual performance.

      @ujjawalsingh7530@ujjawalsingh75302 ай бұрын
  • The debate is over now , let's compare LM10 with Maradona & Pele . They belong to another level.

    @nationfirst16@nationfirst16 Жыл бұрын
  • You don't have to see stats.. You have to see how he plays... Messi always way ahead..

    @akash2100@akash2100 Жыл бұрын
    • Both manner of playing and what they gave to their teams - Ronaldo is clear.

      @bigsmoke6805@bigsmoke680510 ай бұрын
    • the stats say messi is better too

      @19nope@19nope7 ай бұрын
    • @@bigsmoke6805 Yes Ronaldo gave WC to his team..

      @akash2100@akash21007 ай бұрын
    • ​@@bigsmoke6805ye gave dives and arrogance

      @slepk7898@slepk78985 ай бұрын
    • @@akash2100 So you want to say a month-long competition matters more than *five* of the most difficult trophy in the world to obtain?

      @bigsmoke6805@bigsmoke68055 ай бұрын
  • The Goat is the world cup winner. No bias and no other contest.

    @mawafilee3806@mawafilee3806 Жыл бұрын
    • Okay then mbappe

      @Elistic4443d@Elistic4443d Жыл бұрын
    • @@Elistic4443dtill now he's not but he got the potential he will be in future if he's consistent

      @SENPAI_12@SENPAI_12 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Elistic4443d pendu fans becoming mbappe and pele supporters suddenly

      @rafamessi3867@rafamessi3867 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rafamessi3867 no i am just using his logic

      @Elistic4443d@Elistic4443d Жыл бұрын
    • @@rafamessi3867 real Ronaldo fans will support Ronaldo till he dies and won’t shift to support mbappe lol

      @dexlus7593@dexlus7593 Жыл бұрын
  • This isn’t a debate please. No player should be compared to Messi respectfully.

    @_kwasiokyere1446@_kwasiokyere1446 Жыл бұрын
    • Who is the top goal scorer of all time ?? The debate is not ended

      @RatnaRoy-sm9br@RatnaRoy-sm9br28 күн бұрын
  • Yes, Messi has a better goal ratio than Ronaldo, but don't forget that he also has a much better assist ratio. He even made more assists than anyone in history. Messi is the complete footballer. He doesn't just score, but he's amazing at creating chances. that's why he is still shining at this age.

    @celeschan90@celeschan90 Жыл бұрын
  • Ronaldo and Messi honestly gave the football of the world a real battle and everyone's heartbeat with them for two decades. But the Goat debate never existed cause we were watching the things that we never seen before from Messi which is impossible to believe if the moments were not filmed and Ronaldo was showing what other players can do but with much hard work. As the world was defending Ronaldo by criticizing Messi at his national career especially after Ronaldo won the Euro 2016. So, Messi was calm and made these debates to settle by winning over the South America champions Brazil at Copa America, the Euro champions Italy and finally the World champions France at the world cup in a row. After this there is nothing to say except accepting the real GOAT and respecting Ronaldo because they gave football something special for history.

    @ERITREANLION-oz9lp@ERITREANLION-oz9lp Жыл бұрын
    • In simple Summary, Ronaldo does things other great footballers can do, goals, long shots, headers, acrobatics and all. But he does them more consistently than everyone else. Messi does things that makes you ask questions, that makes you wonder, that are unheard of, that has never been seen or done before, that makes you wonder if you'd ever see them again. Messi, I have never seen a goal scorer with so many assists than a playmaker. I have never seen a playmaker with so many goals than a striker.

      @cosmosokpighe4962@cosmosokpighe49625 ай бұрын
    • Good comment, too much disrespect to ronaldo in this comment section.

      @TheScholesEra@TheScholesEra4 ай бұрын
  • Its pretty simply. In goals they are fairly similar so we can take that out of the equation. In all other aspects of the game I claim Messi is superior and I dont really know how anyone who understands football can argue against that.

    @e.s.1873@e.s.1873 Жыл бұрын
  • You forgot to highlight that, while Messi was the best player in the world cup, Ronaldo had a disappointed tournament. And Messi still playing at the highest level. He has the chance to win a Champions League title and another balon d'or. Ronaldo, well... Ronaldo has been great, don't take me wrong. But the debate between who's better between them is over. And of course the debate between Messi and Maradona is also over. The debate between Pelé and Messi is another kind of monster.

    @juanromero7189@juanromero7189 Жыл бұрын
    • This is called recency bias. Ronaldo has proven everything, including the most competitive football tournament - UCL. WC or no WC, Messi can't reach him.

      @bigsmoke6805@bigsmoke680510 ай бұрын
    • with no WC he has failed and flopped period , the UCL doesn't compare to a WC @@bigsmoke6805

      @samplingmastersxlr8660@samplingmastersxlr86607 ай бұрын
  • Lionel Messi Greatest Player Of All Time. Ronaldo really tried hard to reach Messi's level we admire his passion. But media only forcing this debate and utilizing this for long .

    @regugame886@regugame886 Жыл бұрын
    • No media is forcing its all ronaldo fans

      @sentm7362@sentm736211 ай бұрын
    • Such a blatant lie eh?

      @bigsmoke6805@bigsmoke680510 ай бұрын
  • The difference between the two one is a team player while the other one is an individual player and less team work . Hard work pays for real but natural gift is a blessing that pave way for greatness . Lets appreciate the two best players who has dominated football for decades

    @tapiwanjanji6444@tapiwanjanji64445 ай бұрын
  • Messi is the most complete player of all times, he have all the skills and trophies. And he can add another Copa America and another UEFA Champions and balón d’or while Ronaldo is buried in Al-Nassau

    @devinespinoza5529@devinespinoza5529 Жыл бұрын
  • MESSI IS CLEAR

    @constantinexii8182@constantinexii8182 Жыл бұрын
  • It's always Messi the GOAT

    @yesss954@yesss954 Жыл бұрын
  • Messi is the GOAT. The debate is over

    @thuptenwangdi8397@thuptenwangdi8397 Жыл бұрын
  • Undeniably Messi

    @sktan784@sktan784 Жыл бұрын
  • Both great and its been a great 20 years watching them destroy teams and grace us with there undeniable wonderful talent ❤

    @mikeymorales@mikeymorales Жыл бұрын
  • Always the king will be messi

    @y.bukhaosimonkonyak2945@y.bukhaosimonkonyak2945 Жыл бұрын
  • Messi won also 2 wc golden ball.. it's a dream for cr7

    @imrulkayes7937@imrulkayes7937 Жыл бұрын
    • Nope,ronaldo doesent dream to rob awards like goldenball,ballondor,world cup.

      @BallXKnowledge@BallXKnowledge Жыл бұрын
    • @@BallXKnowledge f You crying ueeeeeeeeeeeee

      @TheRoby9078@TheRoby9078 Жыл бұрын
    • @@BallXKnowledge robbed ok 👍 messi is the Goat.

      @sickomode9523@sickomode9523 Жыл бұрын
    • @@BallXKnowledge .. . Its easy to say rob bcoz ur side was lost 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. Penaldo also won robbed 5 ucl n 5 ballon d'or🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤑🤑🤑

      @cycm5@cycm5 Жыл бұрын
    • @@cycm5 first you should fix your vocabulary. both should have 5 ballondors

      @BallXKnowledge@BallXKnowledge Жыл бұрын
  • Let's be fair tho; For me Messi is the goat and always has been but Ronaldo was a hell of a player and deserves respect. He is not number one but definitely number two.

    @bergrugu@bergrugu Жыл бұрын
    • 😂😂😂😂

      @steven_wise@steven_wise7 ай бұрын
    • ​@@steven_wiseI'm a Ronaldo fan too bro😅. Our life is miserable now😂

      @matsungtemjen3999@matsungtemjen39997 ай бұрын
    • ​@@matsungtemjen3999lmao 😅

      @seo9ja572@seo9ja5726 ай бұрын
    • Not number 2. There were players who played better football than him. Hes a great goalscorer though.

      @nikitamandawat@nikitamandawat5 ай бұрын
    • ​@@matsungtemjen3999Nice try Messi fan

      @kingjahad100@kingjahad1004 ай бұрын
  • MESSI IS DEFINITELY THE GOAT. He is better in nearly every category. Goals are the main thing that keeps Ronaldo in this conversation but he played much more games. When it is all set and done messi may have more goals and a better goal ratio. Ronaldo is amazing but messi is just a little bit better.🤝

    @AriaTheGoat@AriaTheGoat9 ай бұрын
  • lol, The Brazilian Ronaldo de Lima and Ronaldinho were better than portugal Ronaldo. Please stop make stupid comparisons because Messi is in a league of his own.

    @dynamite_luis3937@dynamite_luis3937 Жыл бұрын
    • They were better than hgh goblin too

      @kssam8888@kssam8888 Жыл бұрын
  • CR7, and many others are World Class. Then… you have Messi Class. CR7 and others are amazing. But Messi is magic. You can describe goals scored by others. But you can’t describe a lot of what Messi does. You have to watch them. They are indescribable. The Magic Man.

    @arifahmed2512@arifahmed2512 Жыл бұрын
  • No doubt, Messi is the real Goat in Football history. Thank you,

    @mohamedjellekatimba5080@mohamedjellekatimba5080 Жыл бұрын
  • Lionel Andrés Messi Individual Awards Ballon d’Or: 8 FIFA World Player of the Year: 7 La Liga Player of the Year: 9 European Golden Shoe: 6 Laureus World Sports Award: 2 World Cup Golden Ball: 2 UEFA Men’s Player of the Year: 2 Copa America Most Valuable Player: 2 Club Records La Liga titles: 10 Copa del Rey titles: 7 UEFA Champions League titles: 4 Most goals for Barcelona: 672 Most trophies won at Barcelona: 35 Most games played for Barcelona: 778 Most goals in La Liga: 474 Most hat-tricks in La Liga: 36 Most goals in El Clasico: 26 Most goals in a La Liga season: 50 [2011-12 season] Most goals for club and country in a year [Guinness World Record]: 91 [2012] Most goals in the UEFA Champions League with the same team: 120 With Barcelona - Over the course of 778 games with the club, Messi scored 672 goals, ahead of Brazil great Pele, who scored 643 goals while playing for Santos. At Barcelona, Messi leads Cesar Rodriguez, who scored 446 goals for the Spanish giants. With Argentina FIFA World Cup 2022 Olympic gold at Beijing 2008 All-time leading goalscorer: 106 Most international caps: 178 Most goals for a South American nation: 106 Youngest Argentinian to score at a World Cup: 18 years 357 days First player to score in four different World Cup tournaments for Argentina Most individual World Cup appearances: 26 Most Argentina World Cup goals: 13 Only player to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarterfinals, semifinals and final The talismanic captain has played 178 matches and scored a record 106 goals, 13 of which have been at the World Cup since 2006. Although a leading player for Argentina, Messi is surpassed by Ronaldo in records for a national team, with 127 goals and 203 matches played. In Argentina, Messi is followed by Gabriel Batistuta, who scored 56 goals for the Albiceleste. In South America, he leads with 106 goals - the most by any player on the continent. I am pretty sure I am missing out on many things. This is an unnecessary and forceful debate. Messi is clearly THE GOAT.

    @kushprashar5799@kushprashar57995 ай бұрын
  • Ronaldinho told Kobe Bryant that Messi is the best player in the world. And Ronaldinho was the reigning Ballon D'Or winner that year in 2005. There was never really a debatw to begin with. Social media hyped one guy up so bad. Initially it was just his great body, chiselled good looks then the useless comparison to a true footballing genius, Messi.

    @jenni431@jenni4319 ай бұрын
  • I agree with many that the debate is forced due to business money. Messi is GOD and CR7 tried to become the best and became the second, but the gap between them is clear to everybody when Messi goes past 7 defenders regularly and CR7 does some nice fashion trick just before passing the ball backwards. Messi is better footballer, better finisher, better dribbler, better passer, better teammate, less selfish, less egocentric, less polemic, and overall better person which makes me happy to see him succeed. And this last World Cup is the pinnacle of his amazing career. I would lastly propose what it could be a nice debate for CR7. Who has been the best "Ronaldo" in history? (The one that has two World cups, the one that has one World cup or the one that never played even a final?)

    @coronerl@coronerl Жыл бұрын
    • I agree Messi is the goat but CR7 is the best Ronaldo ever, stop acting like a child.

      @RonaldoHater777@RonaldoHater7776 ай бұрын
  • Ronaldo fans who respect messi and have still like ronaldo while accepting messi as the GOAT are few to none Even after all the statistucs and clearly better play and trophies they would still call it robbed or rigged Or how ronaldo had injuries or how the invisible media is abusing ronaldo They never got an argument

    @gh0stop24@gh0stop2411 ай бұрын
  • ONLY 9 PLAYERS IN HISTORY to have won the BIG 3 World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or 1.Lionel Messi 2.Bobby Charlton 3.Franz Beckenbauer 4.Gerd Müller 5.Paolo Rossi 6.Zinedine Zidane 7.Rivaldo 8.Ronaldinho 9.Kaká Only 2 players in history have won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or + golden boot 👟 🇦🇷 Messi 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller Only 1 player in history has won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Copa America 🏆 + Balon D’Or (7) + golden boot 👟 + 2 x Golden ball (only person with 2 since 1932) ⚽️ + IFFHS worlds best play maker ⚽️ + most man of the match awards (league and international in history ) + most international player of the tournaments awards in history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Since 1932 Most goals + assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (1,143) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (1,111) 🥉 🇵🇹 Ronaldo CR7 (1,053) Most goals + Assist in world cup history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (21) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (20) Most goals in major international tournaments (World Cup + main contintental tournaments) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (26 goals) 🥈 🇧🇷 Ronaldo R9 (25 goals) 🥉 🇦🇷 Gabriel Batistuta (23 goals) Most assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 386 assists) 🥈 🇩🇪 Thomas Muller (294) (Includes Friendlies) Most goals in a calendar year since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (91 goals 2012) 🥈 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller (85 goals 1972) 🥉 🇧🇷 Pele (75 goals 1958) Only player in history to win Man of the Match in every round at a World Cup (Groups, R16, QF, SF, F and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 ) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Only player in history to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals, final and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi --------------------- Only player in history to win Best Player, Golden Boot, most MOTMs and win the trophy in a major international tournament and to win it 🏆 (Copa America 2021) 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Not only that but to have every single statistic in his name also 👇 Stat Leaders in UEFA Euro 2021, Most goals - 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (5) Most assists - 🇨🇭 Steven Zuber (4) Most free kicks - Damsgaard (1) Most key passes - 🇮🇹 Marco Veratti (14) Most chances created - 🇧🇪 De Bruyne (16) Most successful dribbles - 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Sterling (23) Most accurate through balls -🇪🇸 Pedri (4) Most shot creating actions -🇪🇸 Pedri (27) Most goal creating actions - 🇪🇸 Pedri (5) Stat Leaders in Copa América 2021, Most goals - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (4) Most assists -🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (5) Most free kicks - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (2) Most key passes - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (22) Most chances created - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (26) Most successful dribbles-🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (36) Most goal creating actions-🇦🇷Lionel Messi (8) Most shot creating actions🇦🇷Lionel Messi(46) Most accurate through balls🇦🇷 LionelMessi(4) Most goals in 🇦🇷 Argentina history 🥇 Messi (98 goals) 🥈 Garbriel Batistuta (54 goals) 🥉 Sergio Aguero (41 goals) ------------- Most goals for a single club in history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (672) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (643) ------------- MAN OF THE MATCHES Most man of the matches in football history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 310 man of the match awards) 🥈 Second place 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (175) Since 1932 The only player to win 2 player of the tournaments and 2 golden balls at the world cup since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi The most player of the tournaments in international football since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi

    @check4566@check4566 Жыл бұрын
  • CR7 has worked so hard and has kept his level of discipline in a so high level that sometimes he even manages to equal Messi. Prime Messi was an anomaly in football that wasn't seen since Pelé.

    @petersylvester23@petersylvester2310 ай бұрын
    • It's more like Messi sometimes reached the regular Tuesday heights of the GOAT. Fr, his best achievement is having ever been compared to Ronaldo.

      @bigsmoke6805@bigsmoke680510 ай бұрын
    • @@bigsmoke6805 What are you even talking about, the "GOAT" top score in a year is 77 goals, Messi keeps the record with 91. Messi has a 122 less games than Ronaldo and still has only 30 less goals. Messi has a bigger g/a rate than Ronaldo. Messi is more victorious than Ronaldo, holding 40 titles while CR7 has 33, 7 less titles. Messi is also greatest than Ronaldo in terms of individual achievements, holding 31 prizes against Ronaldo's 21. It's PURE LOGIC, Ronaldo for sure is Mr. Champions League and the greatest player from Portugal, but Messi is the GOAT.

      @petersylvester23@petersylvester2310 ай бұрын
    • ​@@bigsmoke6805other way around my friend

      @bigdane8828@bigdane88289 ай бұрын
    • ​@@petersylvester23ngl I don't even think CR7 is the best player in Portugal. He underperformed a lot in international football, not saying he's bad, but not as good as expected. I mean, he did score a hat trick against Spain which is his best international performance but that's about it

      @bigdane8828@bigdane88289 ай бұрын
    • @@bigdane8828 Yeah in fact he had the some of best generation in Portugal's history with him but still didn't manage to achieve a WC semi-final (as Eusébio did with Portugal).

      @petersylvester23@petersylvester239 ай бұрын
  • Lol even when they attempt to exclude important statics like Assists .... Messi still comes out on top. 😂😂😂

    @Rodney231@Rodney231 Жыл бұрын
  • No doubt Leo is the GOAT

    @Top10facts569@Top10facts569 Жыл бұрын
    • Agreed bro Messi the GOAT 🐐

      @chetanraikar7055@chetanraikar7055 Жыл бұрын
  • *** Number of career penalty goals *** - RONALDO: 151 - MESSI: 109 *** World Cup goal contributions excluding penalty goals *** - RONALDO: 7 goal contributions in 22 appearances (not including his 3 penalty goals) - MESSI: 17 goal contributions in 26 appearances (not including his 4 penalty goals) *** Copa America/European Championship goal contributions excluding penalty goals *** - RONALDO: 17 goal contributions in 25 appearances (not including his 3 penalty goals) - MESSI: 27 goal contributions in 34 appearances (not including his 3 penalty goals) *** Goal contributions excluding penalty goals in World Cup/Copa America/European Championship KNOCKOUT games *** - RONALDO: 5 goal contributions in 19 knockout stage appearances (not including penalty goals) - MESSI: 25 goal contributions in 28 knockout stage appearances (not including penalty goals) These numbers tell us something about why Ronaldo has helped his national team reach only 2 European Championship/World Cup finals (and played only in one that he lost and made 0 goal contributions) while Messi has helped his teams reach 6 Copa America/World Cup finals and won 2. Messi has 1 goal contribution per World Cup/Copa America knockout game, while Ronaldo has 0.26 goal contributions per World Cup/European Championship knockout game 😂😂😂😂

    @GoLetItInGoBagItUp@GoLetItInGoBagItUp Жыл бұрын
  • About equal: goals scored, goals per game, pace Messi: assists, dribbling, passing, free kicks, left foot Ronaldo: penalties, right foot, diving

    @robertrodes1546@robertrodes15469 ай бұрын
  • Messi not doubt from start till now...this debate was never a debate from start...

    @kesoneiliekhro5374@kesoneiliekhro5374 Жыл бұрын
  • statistically speaking Messi is the beste . Messi goal/match ratio (0.79 ) Ronaldo (0.72 ) Messi goal+assist (1144) Ronaldo (1053) Messi man of the match (308) Ronaldo (168) Messi outside the box goal (87) Ronaldo (61) Messi inside the box score (539) Ronaldo(554) Messi match played (1,004) Ronaldo (1,145) Messi scores every (103.mnt) Ronaldo (113.4 mnt) Messi total shots attempt (2,844) Ronaldo (3,447) Messi shot on target (1355) Ronaldo (1,418) Wish make a percentage of Messi (47.6%) Ronaldo (41.1%) Si Messi is even more precise with the ball Messi (3,126 )successful dribble Ronaldo (2,024) Goals chances created Messi (393) Ronaldo (176) Key passe Messi (1,324) Ronaldo (890) Assist Messi (350) Ronaldo (234) Free kick Messi (60) on (446) attempt Ronaldo (58) on (532) attempt The free kick conversion makes it Messi :(9.0%) Ronaldo:(6.2%) Now ronaldo is best at only one thing and that’s penalty 😂 Ronaldo (146/175) Messi (108/139) Ronaldo has (819) goals Messi has (794) if we get off Ronaldo penalty and Messi penalty Messi has (685) goals Ronaldo (673) while Messi still had less minute and less match’s 🤣🤣 Now I’m keep it respectful .. but the name penaldo wasn’t created for nothing im juste saying but I’m keep calling him Ronaldo And that right there was statistically why Messi is the best. So Ronaldo has 2 years advantage more game played more minute and Messi still beats him in the most important aspect of the games And to top it all the individual awards just destroyed him Messi (7)ballon d’or Ronaldo (5) ballon d’or best scorer of Europe Messi (6X )soulier d’or Ronaldo (4X )soulier d’or World Cup ballon d’or Messi (2) Ronaldo (none) The GOAT is Lionel Andres messi.

    @yvens_2christ@yvens_2christ Жыл бұрын
    • Dude you just earned my respect

      @sekiro2858@sekiro2858 Жыл бұрын
    • @@sekiro2858 and bro just stats messi is way more than just STATS And goals are the things that make ronaldo close to messi But MESSI IS THE GREATEST BEAUTIFIER OF THIS BEAUTIFUL GAME He is an artist YOU CAN'T WATCH RONALDO GAME AS WHOLE UNLESS IF YOU ARE TRUE FAN OF THAT TEAM IN WHICH HE PLAYS HE US MOSTLY A HIGHLIGHT PLAYER but messi he us just different he makes you stick to the game With his drribling,passes,through balls, fks and many more

      @NishanT_ACM@NishanT_ACM Жыл бұрын
    • can't agreed more, only blind tells in opposite

      @zhangbenson5475@zhangbenson5475 Жыл бұрын
    • W bro !

      @souravdutta6300@souravdutta6300 Жыл бұрын
    • Ronaldo makes 12moves to beat no one Messi makes 3 moves beats 4 to 5 players and makes it look so easy. It's not even a debate

      @carnagefxmarketslayers7795@carnagefxmarketslayers7795 Жыл бұрын
  • calling the Ballon d'Or Ballon Dior at two occasions is a dead giveaway that you don't watch football 😂

    @02arabian@02arabian8 ай бұрын
    • Dumb guy it is also called ballon dior

      @Proud_Indian_88@Proud_Indian_887 ай бұрын
  • This debate ended long ago. REST.

    @swmagoo@swmagoo Жыл бұрын
  • Messi True GOAT. 🐐❤️🇦🇷

    @El_Diego86@El_Diego86 Жыл бұрын
  • Ronny won keague titles with juventus who won 7 in a row before he arrived

    @michaelhowley1000@michaelhowley1000 Жыл бұрын
  • In the future, 40 years from now, if we are still alive, we will all remember Messi. I can't say the same about Ronaldo.

    @harryman5090@harryman50907 ай бұрын
  • At the end of the day it's extremely hard to find a goat in a team sport since there are just too many variables.

    @TheNuggzt3r@TheNuggzt3r7 ай бұрын
  • Stats mean jack really, you only need eyes and a minor common sense to notice the insane amount of natural, effortless talent that Messi possess.

    @inchaoswetrust@inchaoswetrust Жыл бұрын
  • Ronaldo is a real GOAT and among the other GOATS. And.... Messi is a real legend among the 3 legends. Pele Maradona Messi PMM - The 3 legends.

    @hasanbasri3001@hasanbasri3001 Жыл бұрын
    • Tf mean?

      @Averagewaterdispenser7223@Averagewaterdispenser7223 Жыл бұрын
    • Messi is above all

      @Averagewaterdispenser7223@Averagewaterdispenser7223 Жыл бұрын
    • Ronaldo need WC to qualify to legendary list

      @hasanbasri3001@hasanbasri3001 Жыл бұрын
  • Once their careers are over and they have retired we need this debate put into a 3 part video 1st part Europe where it talks about there club careers playing for man u barca real Madrid juventus and psg 2nd international talking about there times playing with the national teams and 3rd retirement talking about there times playing in the mls and Saudi league and where ever else they may play in these last few years

    @andrewbunch6599@andrewbunch65998 ай бұрын
  • MESSI is by far the best, the greatest footballer of all time. The only one in football history to have won EVERYTHING, BOTH INDIVIDUALLY & COLLECTIVELY.

    @D.Norton@D.Norton8 ай бұрын
  • Ok since people are still dragging on this unnecessary debate, let's decide a match between 11 Messis and 11 Ronaldos... result will be landslide victory and you know very well WHO is winning.

    @truthhurts450@truthhurts450 Жыл бұрын
  • Reality (League+International): Dribble: Messi 3019; R7 1646; Non-penalty Goal: Messi 686; R7: 673; Assist : Messi: 393; R7: 176; Key pass: Messi: 1325; R7: 890; THROUGHBALLS: Messi: 430; R7: 81; World Cup Best: Messi: 1 Champion 1 Runner-up; R7: Semi-final Messi had 796goals in Only 1004 games, while R7 had 819 goals in 1145 games.Goal efficiency: Messi better.

    @davidlynch1263@davidlynch1263 Жыл бұрын
    • And in less games played

      @jgosal1981@jgosal1981 Жыл бұрын
    • Ronaldos best World Cup is actually semi finals

      @thegamingwolf73179@thegamingwolf73179 Жыл бұрын
    • @@thegamingwolf73179 2006 ? R7 is not the captain.

      @davidlynch1263@davidlynch1263 Жыл бұрын
    • You didn’t say anything about captian

      @thegamingwolf73179@thegamingwolf73179 Жыл бұрын
    • @@thegamingwolf73179 ok amended

      @davidlynch1263@davidlynch1263 Жыл бұрын
  • For me one is a difference between right and left.creativity vs logic, intution vs rationality and so on. Both of them work in a different way..

    @Nepalisongslover77@Nepalisongslover778 ай бұрын
  • To say who is better between Messi and Ronaldo you don’t need stats, you need eyes. And Messi is overwhelmingly better. The real debate should be between Messi, Maradona and Pele.

    @marcosdeto9409@marcosdeto9409 Жыл бұрын
    • Eyes said Ronaldo better He's way more complete player than Messi. Messi is just a g/a

      @kssam8888@kssam8888 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kssam8888 🧢

      @GhuruThePesGuy@GhuruThePesGuy Жыл бұрын
    • @@kssam8888 can ronaldo run the midfield and a game? without camping in the box theres literally nothing to his game

      @mercurialnemesis3120@mercurialnemesis3120 Жыл бұрын
  • Messi and Ronaldo have given more to football than many in history. For 10 years, they provided us with the best football ever seen. That is what we all should appreciate. Individual trophies will always be unfair. This is a team sport. We must set aside narcissism and stop ranking these players above each other. It's like debating whether a Da Vinci painting is better than a Picasso one. We all appreciate based on our perspective and knowledge.

    @paul.greenlaw@paul.greenlaw3 ай бұрын
  • The UNDISPUTED GOAT, Lionel Messi!!

    @jimmyokiya3240@jimmyokiya3240 Жыл бұрын
  • Messi is better

    @realtalkcontent2404@realtalkcontent2404 Жыл бұрын
  • The Champions League is a joke compared to the World Cup! The debate is 100% over, but do not forget Pelé!

    @StudyingManually@StudyingManually Жыл бұрын
  • This GOAT thing ended up being worse than the Console wars between PS and Xbox, my god.

    @panamike6178@panamike61786 ай бұрын
  • The man with the world cup. Please stop asking,Messi was always better

    @seanstewart7533@seanstewart7533 Жыл бұрын
  • Comparing Ronaldo to Messi is like comparing Haaland to Mbappe today. Haaland's an absolute goal scoring machine, but simply not in the same stratosphere as Mbappe in terms of what he can do with the ball away from goal.

    @BluesFanUK_@BluesFanUK_3 ай бұрын
  • if Ronaldo didn't score a goal, he's pretty much useless. If Messi didn't score a goal, he's still the man of the match.

    @chokoon21@chokoon21 Жыл бұрын
  • The comment section just shows how much immature and insecure messi fans are i am not a fan of either but I can certainly say these rivalry between these two players was the best in history and fans of messi here claiming how their opinion is a fact is nothing but pure joke, CR7 and Messi both had immeasurable talent and hardwork and achieved what they deserve imo no one come close to these two They are the best in history 🐐🐐 Fans claiming Ronaldo doesn’t come close to messi is either delusional or they are watching American football

    @snehashismandal2555@snehashismandal25555 ай бұрын
  • The next 4 years will be more telling as Messi continues at the top shattering every Ronaldo record has left as he watches on TV Messi possibly retiring at USA in 26 being the first playing 6 WCs with a long "forgotten" Cristiano

    @maurobertolone5198@maurobertolone5198 Жыл бұрын
  • GOAT debate is officially over. Leo Messi is the greatest player in the history of world football🐐

    @samitmagar522@samitmagar522 Жыл бұрын
    • although there was never a debate. but real debate was between pele and messi, and messi proved with the world cup. pele won the 3rd world cup by literally being irrelevant, it was brazilian great team, but yeah pele is definitely the 2nd best , messi is the GOAT

      @tushitatrivedi1818@tushitatrivedi18184 ай бұрын
  • The Goat debate is over for sure, not only has Messi has a higher goal per match average across all competitions both national and international 0.81 over 0.71 but more importantly Messi has a significant higher assists per match average 0.35 over Ronaldo’s 0.20 finally Messi won everything a individual football player can win…international level -> FIFA under 21 worldcup in 2005, Olympic Gold medal 2008, Copa America 2021, Finalissima vs Italy 2022, FIFA Worldcup 2022, 7 ballon d’or (8 to be added for 2022 performance) , MVP FIFA 2022, Golden boot 2014, National level: 7 golden boots , Uefa player of the year x 4, 10 league titles, Spanish cup, Spanish supercup, uefa supercup, Barcelona league worldcup , best player Spanish league, I guess Ronaldo knows the debate is over as well. And for the real soccer fans, it is not how many goals you score but a how you score. Almost 80% of all Messi goals are individual works of art, compared to Ronaldo, percentage which by experts is put in the range of approx 29%

    @cankumru682@cankumru682 Жыл бұрын
  • Whoever knows about Futbol and is no just a fan boy knows who is the best without questions! A player that is naturally gifted and that makes elite Futbol look easy. That's the Goat 🐐

    @nainventura4505@nainventura4505 Жыл бұрын
  • More of a Messi fan but please let’s not disrespect Ronaldo. He was equal back in the day.

    @purushottamsapkota7696@purushottamsapkota7696 Жыл бұрын
    • Never except for stats; this just like except forwards, the other field players can never be greats; Stats r not for who know the game; Ronaldo R9, R10 & Zidane, Iniesta were better than CR7; CR7 is a great goal scorer, that’s it

      @pratapr1515@pratapr15157 ай бұрын
  • It's not a fair debate Ronaldo is a great striker 👏 but Messi is everywhere dropping deap amazing passing ability just like Maradona complete different levels 👏

    @markjones2418@markjones2418 Жыл бұрын
  • Best footballer - Messi10 Best influential footballer - CR7 This is why this debat in even alive in the first place because Ronaldo is far influential than Messi therefore he has more fans and they are gonna argue even after all the statistics and games!!

    @ynwmelly1731@ynwmelly1731 Жыл бұрын
  • In the debate of goat 🐐 status between Messi Vs Ronaldo my opinion is simply that Messi is the best natural born footballer (ie natural ability) whilst Ronaldo is an example of the levels achieved by dedication to one’s craft (ie obsession to be the best via hard work), both goats in their respective ways!.

    @britishmick@britishmick10 ай бұрын
    • Penaldo with zero WC ko stage goal is your goat? 😂😅😂😅

      @deonarayan7679@deonarayan76797 ай бұрын
    • Ronaldo no se obsesiono con ser el mejor, solo se obsesiono con meter más goles, y si eso lo hace feliz está bien. Pero no lo hace mejor.

      @diegovelo@diegovelo3 ай бұрын
  • There is really no competition Messi sits on a table with Maradona, Pele and Zidane. Ronaldo is not there

    @nunelazos5638@nunelazos5638 Жыл бұрын
  • Its crazy that ronaldo put up a career that is better than 99% of everyone who has ever played this sport, but messi just outclasses him. And i am not saying this as a diss towards ronaldo, its a compliment towards messi. He has the better stats, team trophies (i mean messi won everything even an olympic gold medal for playing football), the better individual trophies and the better prime. And if you take eyetest into consideration as well, than its not really a debate. Messis ball controll is as close to perfect as you could possibly be. He is simply the best

    @blackhawks_5349@blackhawks_5349 Жыл бұрын
  • I think the world will never be seen a footballer like Messi atleast for 5 decades, haland will break all the club goalscoring record ever existed.

    @iamlegend6983@iamlegend6983 Жыл бұрын
  • They cant be compared to each other, never, you don't know about football if you do. Ronaldo is a marketing player. Man u, Madrid and juve were already successfull without him playing. He played in already successfull teams. 450 tap ins 150 penalties, most made up. All his teammates had to pass the ball to him to score the goals. Had he not been in Madrid, Benzema would have gotten more ballon d ors, all because he always had to give the ball to Cr7. Messi = football.

    @gmarcomontes@gmarcomontes Жыл бұрын
    • Messi 756 goals made up his teammates

      @kssam8888@kssam8888 Жыл бұрын
    • It's crazy how you can criticize Ronaldo for scoring penalties but stay silent about Messi breaking the record for most penalties attempted in a single World Cup. It just screams hypocrisy.

      @dr.rickbooty@dr.rickbooty Жыл бұрын
    • @@dr.rickbooty a lot of Christianos penalties were made up by him diving.

      @gmarcomontes@gmarcomontes Жыл бұрын
    • @@dr.rickbooty remove penalties for both of them messi has more goals than cr7 its facts you can’t deny it

      @naradiprabaswara8390@naradiprabaswara8390 Жыл бұрын
    • @@naradiprabaswara8390 That's not my point. My point is, if that were Cristiano shooting a record breaking 5 pens in a single World Cup, you would be screaming, "PENALDO PENALDO"! But since it's Messi, a player you like, you don't have the same energy, even though almost every penalty Argentina got was dodgy and controversial.

      @dr.rickbooty@dr.rickbooty Жыл бұрын
  • The debate is over. Messi is the best

    @CALEBMALDINI-bp3qc@CALEBMALDINI-bp3qc5 ай бұрын
  • We are fortunate enough to see those 2 players. It should be a show of great football & respect for the beautiful game. Both have inspired people worldwide & has entertained us for a long time. But facts - * Messi is the most decorated team player, has won every team trophy he could. * Messi has the highest goal contributions ever. * Messi has better passing & playmaking abilities. * More disciplined player, has less red cards than CR7 * 1 VS 1 in any competition, Messi has the edge. i.e El Clasico or any other fixture. * Messi has Won U19 WC, WC 2022, Copa America, Finalissima. Has more Player of the Tournament awards. * Had better ratings than CR7 when they both played in Spain. * Messi's overall game is superior, he can score goals, creates chances, provides assists & make key passes. While CR7 is more of a finisher. * Messi has won more Playmaker award than playmakers. Just freakish.! * Messi has won 2 Laureus World Sportsman Award, the NOBEL of Sports. * When asked about GOAT ques MESSI wins by 2/3 margin. Messi makes people's jaws drop. Plays beautifully & magically. FOREVER MESSI #BEST #GOAT 🐐 #GOD ⚽

    @DanuVivek10@DanuVivek108 ай бұрын
  • messi won the world cup debate is over all respect for cr7 but you want realise that..now messi is the official G.O.A.T of football ❤️

    @shubodas9638@shubodas9638 Жыл бұрын
  • CR7 is a 🐐!!! But Messi is the GOAT of all GOATS !! CR7 is a king !!! But Messi is the King of all Kings !! End of debate....

    @pidhasuriyawong5337@pidhasuriyawong5337 Жыл бұрын
  • Tell us something we don't know another channel with this stupid topic ... Bro this was over since 2012

    @HeavenFace@HeavenFace Жыл бұрын
  • Most unbiased and fair: Messi has the best goalscoring ratio of all-time. Most assists as well. Ronaldo has the most goals atm but needed more games than Messi to reach that amount. But even when you remove the goals out of the equation, you'll see Messi dominate every stat. He has more successful dribbles, passes, assists. When you apply the eye test Messi is also the better player. He can score, but also build up towards a goal. He can dictate the game but also finish it. Ronaldo is a great player, one of the best ever. He has lots of flair, amazing skill moves in his prime, a big personality and scored so much. Also assisted a lot (but not as much as Messi and not of the quality of Messi's assists). When you look at awards and titles, Messi also wins. He has a world cup, most trophies in history of the game. Messi has 7 balon d'Ors, the most ever. He scored 91 goals in a year. Nobody has ever reached that number and he didn't do that as a classical striker. He also assisted a lot. Only competition Ronaldo has won more than Messi is the CL, but he only has 1 more CL to his name. You can also say as an argument against that, that Messi beat Ronaldo a bunch in the CL as well. Messi's Barca beat Real in the CL and United in a final. With Messi being very important and incredible in both those matches. Messi has also humiliated Ronaldo's Real quite a bunch. In their head to head confrontations Messi won the most and displayed the better football. And at the end of the day you shouldn't even compare trophies or the Balon d'Or. Because you need teammates to secure that. Just use your eyes. Messi outdribbless entire defences by himself. Prime Messi had to be guarded by the entire team. While prime Ronaldo was being covered by 2/3 players. I've seen Dani Alves hold his own against Ronaldo in 1 on 1s in El Classico. At the moment Messi just had 1 player in front of him it was game over. Messi dribbles better, passes better, gives more complex passes, has better vision, is deceptively strong, the strongest defenders failed to push him off the ball. Seen Casemiro struggle to use his body against him. Even at 35 Gvardiol was unable to push him off the ball, Messi is agile, fast on the ball, always makes the right decisions, in his prime he'd also press like no other, re-cover the ball, help out in defence, he was a powerhouse. Its so painfully clear to me how much better Messi is. It was already clear to me in 2009 after following him for 4 years since 2005. Back in 2009 me and my friends would say he merely has to prove himself for a year or 2-4 more and his legacy would be cemented. Look at us now. He went above and beyond.

    @Hieillua@Hieillua8 ай бұрын
    • Fax

      @OnlyOneFootball-og9rc@OnlyOneFootball-og9rc8 ай бұрын
    • Thanks bro😂

      @user-oj4mu9dz8k@user-oj4mu9dz8k4 ай бұрын
  • If CR7 stayed with one team just imagine how many more wins goals and assists he would have. It wouldn't even be close but this man went and won with soo many different teams and in soo many different leagues. Lets be real here Ronaldo crushes Messi and its not even close and real fans know the world cup was rigged for Messi to win!!!

    @003theflash@003theflash3 ай бұрын
    • Real Fans ?

      @animal-rights@animal-rights3 ай бұрын
    • If messi wins something, it's automatically rigged right ? Jealous?

      @kiran-thetributechannel@kiran-thetributechannel3 ай бұрын
  • Real Goat One & Only Messi ❤❤❤❤

    @wckfrenando7303@wckfrenando7303 Жыл бұрын
  • Messi has also won 4 best best playmaker awards. Messi is more than just a goal scorer unlike Cristiano. The debate was over a long time ago. Messi is the better footballer by a mile.

    @richarddordoye7300@richarddordoye7300 Жыл бұрын
    • No there was never debate Messi was always better

      @livingtribunal2618@livingtribunal261810 ай бұрын
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