When entry may be better: Rolex vs. Tudor vs. Sinn

2023 ж. 3 Қар.
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Three watches. Rolex Yachtmaster in titanium. Tudor FXD in Titanium and the humble Sinn 104 st ta. How much do you actually get for your money and is more always better? This time I'm talking about how these watches have much more in common than you think and why it's a closer competition that the prices would suggest.
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  • As someone with a 30 plus watch collection, If you really want a Rolex, You won’t be happy with a Tudor or a Sinn. I own Rolex and Tudor I wear the Tudors way more. I don’t think my current Rolex is better. Quality is good in many brands now. But I bought it as a milestone in my business path. This particular one was a replacement after some watches were stolen from a house burglary in 2019. Buy what you like - I love my Squale’s. Love my 1521. but if you really want a Rolex. Just buy one.

    @rampageashton@rampageashton6 ай бұрын
    • This is true. Fall back watches are never going to bring the same joy. It is great though to know that there are good options at there in almost all price points 😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
    • @@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch yes, it’s important that people with different price points can get great watches. I have some very expensive watches, but I seem to have developed an affinity with Squale, discounts are available and 800 pounds will put a very well made beautiful divers watch on your wrist. One in which you can be proud of.

      @rampageashton@rampageashton6 ай бұрын
    • Same I had a datejust, now a submariner then I have watches I just enjoy a panerai, tag Carerra chrono, and going to buy a Tudor gmt

      @ryanrattray3199@ryanrattray31996 ай бұрын
    • Exactly

      @javiercarbonell622@javiercarbonell6225 ай бұрын
    • Buy what you love for you not what someone will think of you.....and what you can afford of course 😮

      @ChrisNewman-fu8ez@ChrisNewman-fu8ez4 ай бұрын
  • You are my favourite youtube Watch reviewer of all time. I could watch your videos the whole day because you are Human. Real. Technical. Knowledgable. And you respect your audience. Hats off for you!

    @gavsapir9271@gavsapir92712 ай бұрын
    • Thank you for your feedback. Much appreciated, and yes I do - There's more knowledge about watches among my viewers than I have in my head, so I am mindful that I am not the expert. They are 😊😊

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch2 ай бұрын
  • I love my SINN 104. Quality is absolutely stunning.

    @rainerbuechse6923@rainerbuechse69236 ай бұрын
    • My point exactly 😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
    • I’ve had nothing but trouble with the stem on my 104. It’s super frustrating because everything else about the watch is so solid.

      @eggsII@eggsII3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@eggsIIyou just got unlucky. What was the issue?

      @8AP1@8AP13 ай бұрын
    • I have dozens of watches. I got my 104 St Sa last June to celebrate a milestone. I've worn the Sinn 6/7 days per week since then. Like, I have to convince myself to wear one of the other 50 that have now been relegated to drawer dwelling. Even my 1-of-1 mods that I really like. Got a 556i RS on the way. After yrs. of collecting, I've found my niche: German "automatic" tool watches. Buy what ya like, *wear* what you buy.

      @hgr.7857@hgr.78579 күн бұрын
  • Great video! I found your talks very insightful, definitely stands out among the millions of YT watch channels.

    @BillyChuckThe21st@BillyChuckThe21st6 ай бұрын
    • Appreciate that ❤️😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • As a newer watch collector, there is so much to learn. I really appreciate your in depth perspectives. I always walk away with something interesting to think about. Cheers!

    @stuart1370@stuart13706 ай бұрын
    • I appreciate that! 😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I appreciate your thoughtful and well reasoned analysis. I find myself considering brands and models i would not have given a second look at previous to entertaining your opinions. Thank you for that.

    @gynat5968@gynat59686 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for sharing! 😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • It has never been so easy to get genuinely good watches. And there never were as many good folks around talking about it. Cheers!

    @johnnyyuma7337@johnnyyuma73376 ай бұрын
    • Unless it's a Rolex. ;-)

      @romanmichaelhamilton8729@romanmichaelhamilton87296 ай бұрын
    • Exactomundo. 😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Thanks! Best and most insightful watch vlog on KZhead.

    @RayZorRayy@RayZorRayy2 ай бұрын
    • Very very kind of you. Thanks a bunch for the donation .😊😊😊😊😊❤️

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch2 ай бұрын
  • Why do you only have 7.34 subs ... Your perspective, I'm my opinion, is most often so spot on ... Been referring you to people I know ... Keep the good content coming sir ...

    @christopher7466@christopher74666 ай бұрын
    • I concur 💯

      @RabbitWatchShop@RabbitWatchShop6 ай бұрын
    • Very kind of you. Hopefully I'll keep doing things people will want to watch and the number will grow. I'm having fun - that's the important part 😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
    • We can tell - you truly are very entertaining. As a relatively recent subscriber, I look forward to watching your channel grow exponentially.​@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch

      @dblh84@dblh843 ай бұрын
    • 31 March 2024 today and you are just shy of 30K subscribers! Don’t know anything about YT metrics, but it seems like rapid growth to me.

      @joeconrad3828@joeconrad3828Ай бұрын
  • Great perspectives. I agree 100%. My collection is very diverse including Sinn, Tudor, Glashutte Original, Rolex, Squale, Zenith, etc. So fun these days. And dangerous as you rightfully point out. Cheers!

    @bendmountainbiker@bendmountainbiker6 ай бұрын
    • Thank you. Sounds like you have some bangers in the old watch box 💪💪💪

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Excellent video, as many others have said you deserve more followers. I understand the theory of “if you want a certain watch no other will do” but after lusting for an explorer for years I bought a used oak and Oscar Olmsted and put the money I saved into wearing that Olmsted on multiple trips. Like almost everyone I have limited funds and sometimes you have to stop and think about where they are allocated.

    @NexDim.@NexDim.Ай бұрын
  • Brilliant wee video and has made me think a lot about watches in a different way.

    @Hutch118000@Hutch1180006 ай бұрын
    • Thanks 😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Excellent video. Was heading towards buying a Rolex but couldn’t get one and the prices then went through the roof. Decided on a Tudor Chrono reverse panda. Have a number of other quality watches around the $2-3000 range that I really like for their quality, movement and look. Diminishing returns when it comes to spending five figures on a watch I think.

    @dinodavanzo8536@dinodavanzo85366 ай бұрын
    • Pleased you enjoyed the vid 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Nice video and perceptive points. I was surprised to see Sinn watches at a multi-brand store in Hong Kong.

    @malikknows3510@malikknows35106 ай бұрын
    • Wow. There as well? Turns out Sinn is everywhere except where I am 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I absolutely love your channel - more than any other, actually. Your videos are interesting, entertaining and highly educational; however, your voice and articulation are what make all your videos pure gold. Are you German or Danish? Keep up the fantastic work and cheers from the U.S. James

    @dblh84@dblh843 ай бұрын
    • Thank you - Appreciated. South African born. Global citizen. Live in denmark. 😊

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch3 ай бұрын
  • Great topic and info. Just discovered your channel and subscribed. I have a U50 and BB41 and Rolex not on my radar TBH.

    @TennesseeMike@TennesseeMike6 ай бұрын
    • Welcome aboard! Thanks 😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Fully agree! Just recently sold my grey Omega PO in titanium in favour of a Tudor Pelagos FXD MN. Latter is much more comfy (slimmer), has better crown guards and after only three years the bezel of the Omega had some play (although only a mm up and down). The Tudor is half the price (400m less WR I don't need anyway and now white gold hands) but serves me much better as a sports watch ..

    @user-cg7tw5yc9n@user-cg7tw5yc9n6 ай бұрын
    • @@SIZZO76 No it's not. Tudor has been around for many decades. They have a rich history of watchmaking, along with Rolex. That's like saying Honda is a fake Acura.

      @nerychristian@nerychristian6 ай бұрын
    • @@SIZZO76tudor hater spotted, someone is mad that Tudor is bringing exceptional quality watches to the market at a reasonable price with grey designs

      @knucklesboxing786@knucklesboxing7866 ай бұрын
    • @@SIZZO76 Yawn... such a creative reply. Must have taken you hours to come up with that. I don't even own Rolex or Tudor.

      @nerychristian@nerychristian6 ай бұрын
    • @@nerychristian probably because you cant afford either

      @davidwells3766@davidwells37666 ай бұрын
    • @@davidwells3766 I can. I just find other watch brands more interesting. I've owned Grand Seikos, Seikos, Longines, Tissot, Orient, and other microbrands. I'm not really into dive watches. I prefer simple, vintage inspired dress watches. I think the only Rolex that I would consider owning is the Perpetual Oyster Datejust. If I am going to spend that much money for a watch, I'd rather buy something less common, like a JLC slimline moonphase watch, or an Omega Constellation Globemaster, or a King Seiko reissue, or Breitling Navitimer. Even my Grand Seiko SBGW231 felt nicer than anything Rolex produces. I see Rolex or Rolex clones pretty often. So it just doesn't feel special to me. Rolex is like the Mercedez of the watch world. The kind of watch people buy when they want others to think they have money. People with real money, and who know about watches, are buying JLC, Patek Phillipe, Vacheron Constantin, F.P. Journe, Audemars Piguet, etc.

      @nerychristian@nerychristian6 ай бұрын
  • I agree with everything you say. It's the very reason why i own a wide spread of watches. I'm constantly amazed at what you can buy with as little as 1000 euros.

    @stephenrhodes3916@stephenrhodes39166 ай бұрын
    • Spot on 👍👍👍

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Good day eh? I concur fully, and I have been waiting for this moment in the industry. A parodox of choice, an explosion of tech, and trickle-down effect . That's why I purchased the Tudor idea of the yacht master in the 925 silver BB. Tudor today is very, very good. I did want Sinn for many yrs however they have been in Calgary Canada only a few yrs now and sold-out. Tudor and Rolex offer excellent service in Canada. That has been my experience. I enjoy your vids emensly, its the logic and articulation of thought process that hooks me. Thanks again and Tschuss Starlight

    @chrishoyt7548@chrishoyt75486 ай бұрын
    • The 925 is very attractive.

      @eyeheartsushi2212@eyeheartsushi22126 ай бұрын
    • Thanks as always - Interesting about Sinn and Canada. Glad you keeping coming back for more 😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • My Oak and Oscar Humboldt GMT, which retails at $2k USD, have an amazing bracelet with on the fly micro adjust and a fully articulating, fully milled bracelet. I agree that micro brands and sub $2.5k watches are getting so much better. Great video!

    @bigiona3938@bigiona39386 ай бұрын
    • Thanks !!! 😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Great video. I bought a Tudor Black Bay GMT not because it is the " baby brother" to the Rolex but because I actually like the look of the Tudor GMT better than todays Rolex GMT. The Tudor has a more old school classic look where as I think today's Rolex GMT looks blinged out. The newer model with the ceramic bezel (Pepsi) just looks wrong to me. Definity not a fan at the prices Rolex is asking for these days for a sports watch. I think Sinn, Christopher Ward, I'd add Oris and a few others that offer great watches and while still not cheap far better buys in terms of quality vs value over some premium brands.

    @Grodd70@Grodd706 ай бұрын
    • Totally agree with you, I own Rolex’s, breitling and Tudor. And the Tudor Gmt is never off my wrist.

      @Phil5150Bower@Phil5150Bower6 ай бұрын
    • @@Phil5150Bowerthe Tudor GMT with opaline dial looks great

      @eyeheartsushi2212@eyeheartsushi22126 ай бұрын
    • Thanks a ton 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Great video, thanks! Sinn and Tudor still feels quite well priced when compared with Rolex, and Omega to. I have the Ranger and I think its great Bang for the buck still, same with Grand Seiko, their Quartz are just amazing and the finish is outstanding for the price.

    @johannoren2787@johannoren27876 ай бұрын
    • Thanx. 👍👍👍

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
    • Same here...Tudor Ranger and Sinn 856.... like them both. Would I like a Rolex or Omega, sure...but I have to eat.

      @wongjefx980@wongjefx9803 ай бұрын
    • With the yen so low in early 2024, Grand Seiko quartz look like quite a bargain for Americans.

      @andrewtaylor9799@andrewtaylor97993 ай бұрын
  • I was looking at Sinns in a Bangkok Hour glass AD a couple of days ago. I’ve also seen them on display in Singapore.

    @nathanf1934@nathanf19346 ай бұрын
    • They’re everywhere and I never noticed 😀🤦‍♂️

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • My two cons with the Sinn, a boxy case that tend to get cought in my cuffs and other things, and that polished case that's a scratch magnet. Sold it for an Oris 65 and work perfect for me.

    @stephan384@stephan3845 ай бұрын
    • Oris 65 is a very cool watch. Good choice 😀😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch5 ай бұрын
  • Nice video ❤ Got a ezm3 and the 104 in your video. Very nice, only the leather bracelett is a bit unconfortable, due to sharpness. Changed to another Sinn bracelett soon. Love the pelagos fxd, but the larger pelagos 42mm(?) with steel bracelett seems to provide more for my money. Submariner is cult, but the decent design of sinn or even the pelagos does meet my style even more. Comparing to the Tudors price range a EZM 13.1 could be a sexy alternative, too 😊

    @fxhood2114@fxhood21143 ай бұрын
    • Thanks - also for sharing your thoughts 😊

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch3 ай бұрын
  • Good video. Sinn never really connected with me, but I am a huge Tudor fan. My BB 58 probably gets the most wrist time out of all my watches, followed by my Speedmaster. Of course I also wear my Seiko diver a fair bit and love it. Don’t have a Rolex yet, but an older 40mm Explorer II polar is on the wish list in the next year or two.

    @TheDudeInAZ@TheDudeInAZ5 ай бұрын
    • Fingers crossed you get yourself an explorer soon 👍👍

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch5 ай бұрын
  • I went back and forth between the Tudor BB36 and a Monta Noble. I went with a pre owned Noble and saved quite a bit of money but don't feel I compromised other than "brand." But I bought it to keep and it's very well made and finished.

    @A_Dude_And_His_Watch78@A_Dude_And_His_Watch786 ай бұрын
    • Always follow your heart. Don't let the watch snobs tell you otherwise.

      @nerychristian@nerychristian6 ай бұрын
    • @@nerychristian never have cared my dude

      @A_Dude_And_His_Watch78@A_Dude_And_His_Watch786 ай бұрын
    • That's the way to go. Buy what you like. Always 😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Enjoyed your video, much good info.

    @fossilimprint2954@fossilimprint29542 ай бұрын
    • Glad to hear it 😊😊

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch2 ай бұрын
  • Excellent and informative video. I appreciate your reasonable, knowledgeable, and level-headed presentations

    @dasein43@dasein436 ай бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it! 😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I couldn’t agree more with your take here. Another great video.

    @HydrogenAlpha@HydrogenAlpha6 ай бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • As usual very insightful. Still I feel the Tudor looks nice

    @user-tm3xp9ph2v@user-tm3xp9ph2v6 ай бұрын
    • It has grown on me as well .😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • The looks of the Sinn is great. Pretty sure is a well made piece.

    @Lawrence64@Lawrence646 ай бұрын
    • If there's one thing you usually can't the germans for, it'll be build quality 😃😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Looking at the Zinn 104 with bracelet and can't decide on the H-link or the fine link. Your thoughts are appreciated.

    @randyreed872@randyreed8722 ай бұрын
  • It's interesting to note that Sinn had a retail store in Costa Rica. Unfortunately, they had to close it down due to the pandemic. I found out the hard way when I went to buy a watch and couldn't find the store anywhere. Eventually, someone informed me that it had closed a year ago.

    @Alex-rp8fu@Alex-rp8fu2 ай бұрын
  • Getting my new SINN 103 Klassik 12 H limited edition in December. Looking forward :)

    @affegorilla1299@affegorilla12996 ай бұрын
  • The mt5602 found in the FXD is superb. It bests my 23 Sub easily in the accuracy stakes at 0-0.5 spd vs +2.5 spd. Yeah I hear you SIZZO76 😂

    @odds-and-sods@odds-and-sods6 ай бұрын
    • Tudor know what they're doing when it comes to good value at a relatively reasonable price point 😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I’ve been collecting for more than 17 years and I have chosen all three of them. I’ve owned an Explorer II polar, Tudor Balck Bay Steel and Sinn 356, all in my collection at the same time. The Gestalt principal tells us that “the whole is more then the sum of its parts”… analysing specs does not tell the whole story. These are 3 of my favourite brands and really enjoyed owning all of them, but the different tiers in terms of level of finishing, tolerances, quality of the movement is felt when you’ve had real life experience with these watches. All great pieces but the Rolex definitely justifies the price difference (at least at retail). That being said the Explorer II is the only one of the three that is still in my collection.

    @BenNS1971@BenNS19716 ай бұрын
    • No doubt. Rolex is head and shoulders ahead of the two others. Sinn you get a good, solid watch but there is more for your money as you go up 😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I think Farer has a quick adjust system on their bracelets. That tech is a major upgrade and something that will make entry level even better and more usable. I find the democratization of watches exciting.

    @HYPERPANTHER@HYPERPANTHER4 ай бұрын
  • The Sinn uses a top grade Selita movement unlike other brands and it is regulated in=house so its very accurate and has been found to be within COSC tolerances

    @CH-yp5by@CH-yp5by6 ай бұрын
    • Interesting. If it were regulated by a third party company, rather than in-house, would that mean worse accuracy?

      @eurovnik@eurovnik6 ай бұрын
    • saying COSC tolerances means nothing, cheap chinese movements can within them too lol

      @DHD10000@DHD100006 ай бұрын
    • @eurovnik no , regulated means regulated even if you did it yourself at home .just need the tools . It's actually pretty easy to regulate most movements too as long as you don't have shakey hands .

      @bigbodykarate6403@bigbodykarate64036 ай бұрын
    • But they look boring and cheap af

      @ImmortalGaming96@ImmortalGaming966 ай бұрын
    • @@ImmortalGaming96 it's all in the eye of the beholder

      @eurovnik@eurovnik6 ай бұрын
  • Usually I don’t comment yet videos. I make an exception on this as the content is great and worth commenting. If you want a Rolex or a Tudor - go for it but also consider maintenance costs of the watch. The cost of servicing a Daytona is easily the purchase of the Sinn 104. Further on your Daytona will travel around the world and spend half a year in Switzerland … think about that before getting any watch with an in-house movement. A generic Sellita movement can be serviced at your trusted watchmaker for around 200 bucks and the watch shouldn’t stay out longer than two weeks for service.

    @watchman6844@watchman68444 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for taking the time to comment. IT's really appreciated 😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch4 ай бұрын
  • I’m wearing my Sinn 104a right now and it’s a very versatile watch. I’m currently demolishing a kitchen but would not feel weird wearing it to a high social event like polo or yacht racing. I think the Arabic version is very underrated

    @baronbristow8764@baronbristow87643 ай бұрын
  • You can by Sinn and Damasko in some stores and online in the UK

    @watch_beginer2056@watch_beginer20566 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for the info. 👍👍👍

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Sinn is sold in Singapore by Hourglass which also distributes Rolex, Tudor, GP, Omega among other brands.

    @cktan2739@cktan27396 ай бұрын
    • They’re everywhere and I never noticed 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
    • @@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch Because their marketing is trash. Unworthy even, for the great timepieces they sell.

      @arcuz7862@arcuz7862Ай бұрын
  • Excellent video👍, I am a Tudor fan

    @randallhill7979@randallhill79796 ай бұрын
    • Right on! 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • You should have chosen the Sinn EZM 3 for this comparison

    @heinrichheuer6510@heinrichheuer65106 ай бұрын
    • Fair enough - If it had been RHD, I may have. Dial wise it is really close to the Tudor and Rollie 😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
    • Exactly. These comparisons are weird and feel a bit random. Does anyone actually consider a YachtMaster, even if it is Ti, a tool? I'd actually just use the regular Sub in this comparison since apparently materials don't seem to matter.

      @cr8460@cr84605 ай бұрын
  • I’m not a collector. I have one watch (well at the moment). For years I bought cheaper brands. Then I treated myself to a Tudor. A bit like the difference between getting in a BMW and a Ford: they are both cars they both get from A-B. But somehow in the BMW there is a different feeling of quality. After 18 months of daily beating the Tudor I am just astonished at how well it has stood up, it hasn’t scratched or worn (degraded) like cheaper brands. The accuracy is phenomenal (my GMT does have in-house caliber) I don’t think I’ve reset it in the time I’ve had it, and it’s within seconds. The cheaper brand do offer something but I’d advise those interested not to be taken in by what it looks like new. By the time you’ve had it a few years and not bought half a dozen other things, you’ll have saved money anyway.

    @grahamsalmons2027@grahamsalmons20276 ай бұрын
    • Tudor is mad solid for sure. They’ve led the way in raising the bar in that price range 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I think I’ve watched all of your videos this week. Hours of insight. However, I’m left with one question. Everyone, including you, seems to feel the non-tapering Seamaster 300m bracelet is in need of an update. I tend to agree somewhat, but I don’t want to see this bracelet taper. I like the box look and it’s quintessential Seamaster. Maybe even more so than the helium escape valve. In the same way I instantly recognize and enjoy a three link oyster, I like spotting the no taper seamaster bracelet in the wild. It’s tough yet elegant. Taper would be more of the same. For the record, I don’t have a smp300, but if I get one, I want that look. So, what do you think should be done with the seamaster bracelet?

    @Explorer40mm@Explorer40mm3 ай бұрын
    • That's dedication! thank you !!!! 😊😊

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch3 ай бұрын
  • Love my blue Sinn 104 on the steel fine link bracelet.

    @JosephTyson@JosephTyson6 ай бұрын
    • As you should 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • In the UK, you can by a Sinn from a store (and not just online). For example Francis and Gaye jewellers. But the main thrust of your point remains true in that they are still a niche brand known that are relatively unknown except to watch enthusiasts.

    @philchazwill@philchazwill5 ай бұрын
    • Thanks 😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch5 ай бұрын
    • There is one AD in the US but I wouldn’t buy anything from them.

      @BlomkvistKalle@BlomkvistKalleАй бұрын
  • Thoughts on Baume & Mercier?

    @Marrakesh940@Marrakesh9406 ай бұрын
  • I agree completely. There has never been a better time to be into watches. There are quality offerings up and down the price scale. We are spoiled for choice!

    @RichKovars@RichKovars6 ай бұрын
    • Totally 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I own the Submariner 124060, Tudor Pelagos FXD MN21 and Sinn 856 S UTC - the watch l wear the most out of the 3 is the Sinn because it’s the one that is the most under the radar and comfortable to wear out of the 3. However if pressed to choose 1 to keep, it would be the Submariner.

    @adamwest5625@adamwest56256 ай бұрын
    • I hear you for sure 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I love these PFYs dishing out advice on what not to buy. I'd love to see what your sinn looks like after it has had 50 years of constant heavy use (inc work, garden, sea, snow..) like my gmt. All it needs is a service every 10-20 years and it goes on and on...

    @predragbalorda@predragbalordaАй бұрын
  • As my father used to tell me when he thought I'd spent too much on a product, remember the law of diminishing returns son! You're spot on with your analysis, it's why millions now look at what micro brands are producing. Look at the quality of super clone production, just from an engineering perspective. My friend has a new explorer II, and I have a BB Pro, and looking at them, feeling them, using the crown, under a loop, we cannot see any difference in quality. All brands will squeeze what they can get out of their customers

    @mrgee007@mrgee0076 ай бұрын
    • Because you don't know how to see it.

      @kuongsam2314@kuongsam23146 ай бұрын
    • 🤣🤣@@kuongsam2314

      @mrgee007@mrgee0076 ай бұрын
    • that's exactly what a salesman would say 🤣@@kuongsam2314

      @mrgee007@mrgee0076 ай бұрын
    • We can’t knock them for trying to optimise - but at least we’re informed 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • From the three I would choose the Sinn. At least in Germany you can also buy them in shops.

    @kungula@kungula6 ай бұрын
    • I’ve also seen them in Bangkok and Singapore. We also have 1 dealer in Australia.

      @nathanf1934@nathanf19346 ай бұрын
    • 💪

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I am a Sinn fan and have 11 Sinn watches. Most of them are chronos and yes, I also have the Sinn 104. So to answer the question, when it comes to price-performance ratio, always the Sinn. But if it's about status, then the Rolex. Unfortunately, I don't like the Tudor and I don't find it suitable for everyday use.

    @Martinhauer@Martinhauer6 ай бұрын
    • Are you a Sinn fan because of the brand or because of the price-performance ratio? If the former then 11 Sinns is proof. If the latter then 11 Sinns doesn't make sense unless you just had to have 11 watches, otherwise for the cost of all those watches you probably could have a high end watch of similar design. I'll assume it's brand loyalty and congratulate you on your commitment.

      @gazz501@gazz5016 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for the comment. No, I am generally a watch freak and have about 50 watches, including Rolex, Tudor, Omega and other brands. However, I have most of my watches from Sinn because I like the design, workmanship and functionality of the watches so much. It has to be said, however, that Sinn's prices are also considerably lower than those of Tudor.

      @Martinhauer@Martinhauer6 ай бұрын
    • There a sinn lover for sure 👍👍👍

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Good, informative video. Now do the same for an Explorer. (asking for a friend, honest...)

    @ccooper8785@ccooper87856 ай бұрын
    • Thanks!!! Explorer…. You’re not the firdt that’s asked 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I have a Tudor Ranger and Sinn 856...question is would I have been better off on saving the money and getting an Omega Speedy as my one and only watch?

    @wongjefx980@wongjefx9803 ай бұрын
    • Not a question I can answer. Only you know 😊

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch3 ай бұрын
  • Honestly out of the three I would probably choose the Tudor FXD. Something about its military heritage appeals to me.

    @GunsWatchesCO@GunsWatchesCO6 ай бұрын
    • It’s a great watch for sure 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I sold my Sinn 104 after 2 years of trying to get along with the HLink bracelet with no halflinks available and only three positions in the clasp. Asked them if they intend to improve, answer was not any time soon. But they keep on raising prices, but are falling behind other offerings in the bracelet dept. With quick adjust nowadays doable on €250 Euro bracelets, what a shame Sinn.

    @gotzdonalies4217@gotzdonalies42174 ай бұрын
  • Love my BB58. It gets the most wrist time of any of my collection.

    @themightysquid@themightysquid6 ай бұрын
    • It does with many - for a reason 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Had the Sinn 104 for some years, been looking forward to a matte edition available to everyone, not just North American and Australasia.

    @thisispw@thisispw6 ай бұрын
    • I really wanted a 104 in a matte case, reached out to Sinn but no dice. Bought an EZM3, had to wait almost 6 months for the build and shipment, but very well worth the wait :-)

      @markh2351@markh23516 ай бұрын
  • Gonna have to go with the Tudor. Note to Tudor: please drop the following words from the dial … GENEVE and all the words under Pelagos. All those can go on the back of the watch. Thank you. 😀

    @tacticaltruth8118@tacticaltruth81186 ай бұрын
    • Fingers crossed that Tudor reads my comments 😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I am astonished at the quality of my Black Bay 54. It feels wholly premium. The bezel action is sublime and T-Fit clasp is a dream. The movement looses time when worn and gains when set down, allowing you to regulate with wearing habits. So between Oct - Mar, total gain was +0.9sec - not daily - total. We really do live in an amazing time for watches right now.

    @rabtrekker@rabtrekker20 күн бұрын
  • It's the same with automobiles. Now a days, most new cars are well made, comfortable, quiet, and have all the amenities that you could want.

    @nerychristian@nerychristian6 ай бұрын
    • The Lexus is well made.

      @romanmichaelhamilton8729@romanmichaelhamilton87296 ай бұрын
    • @@romanmichaelhamilton8729 True. But now, even the cheapest new car is way better than any car from the 80s.

      @nerychristian@nerychristian6 ай бұрын
    • Exactly. 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Spot on. You could extend your argument even further into affordable territory with the Glycine Combat Sub. Similar aesthetics, Sellita-powered and frequently available on sale for around $350.

    @eurovnik@eurovnik6 ай бұрын
    • Yeah. I own a Combat Sub 39. While it’s no luxury watch, it does provide everything the common man needs. And does it well.

      @RabbitWatchShop@RabbitWatchShop6 ай бұрын
    • @@RabbitWatchShop I think that "luxury watch" is just a marketing term. There's very little that separates the Combat Subfrom the higher priced items in this video - slightly finer machine-made case finishing, slightly better movement materials, finishing and regulation. The price differences are mostly explained by the huge marketing budget and expensive dealer distribution model. Rolex in particular can charge what the market can bear which has nothing to do with the costs of production.

      @eurovnik@eurovnik6 ай бұрын
    • See.... Throw a rock and you hit Sellita 😃😃😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
    • I have the 36mm. It's amazing. Butterfly clasp bracelet is the only downside.

      @bulldogms@bulldogms6 ай бұрын
  • I remember buying my Sinn 556 for just a bit over $1k in 2018. I know everything is relative, but the way prices have gone, I have a lot of trouble calling Sinn entry level anymore.

    @ghjong001@ghjong0012 ай бұрын
  • What's your opinion on glycine as a brand?

    @grahamtaaffe4261@grahamtaaffe42614 ай бұрын
  • I have owned all three brands. My Sinn GMT chronograph and it was one of my favorite watches., it was accurate, sporty, and quite beautiful. Ultimately sold it because it didn't have a true GMT function.

    @hirokusaikaru6624@hirokusaikaru66242 ай бұрын
  • Recent got a speedy. Researching for a dive watch next. As much i want a Sub, i gave up hope that i can get it on retail. On top of my list is Glashutte Original Panoramic Date and the SINN U50. Go for value for money or go broke with the GO.

    @PyroClit@PyroClit2 ай бұрын
  • Sinn is available in City Cham here in Hong Kong 🇭🇰.

    @aulzhoefer@aulzhoefer6 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for the info 😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Sinn is great value. I know that Sinn does have a retail store presence in Japan but not in Australia. As a consequence they are 30% more expensive in Japan.

    @timmcdonald5335@timmcdonald5335Ай бұрын
  • Thanks!

    @markbianculli8764@markbianculli876421 күн бұрын
    • Very very kind of you. Thank you ❤️❤️❤️

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch18 күн бұрын
  • I owned several Rolex watches throughout my lifetime, but just sold the last one because I had come to the realization that I bought them for the wrong reasons and that they convey a message of wealth that I rather not share with the world. I really like the Pelagos FXD, more so in blue, and I find the price point very attractive. I've never owned a Sinn, but I've own other outsiders, such as a Squale 1521 Satinato in blue, and it's a keeper. Of the three watches you presented, I think the Pelagos is the winner here, offering the best value in regard to brand, quality, and resale value.

    @bernardpaulsen825@bernardpaulsen825Ай бұрын
  • No to the 32xx movement. Though I think I will eventually add the FXD. Just got the moonshine gold last month so I should probably cool my jets wrt making another purchase.

    @VectorSearch@VectorSearch3 ай бұрын
  • Excellent!

    @structurescience@structurescience6 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant!

    @martinkaplan1805@martinkaplan18056 ай бұрын
    • Thanks!!! 😃

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • At some point I had eliminated Sinn from my “must have” brand list, but this video is making me look at Sinn, again. 😂😂😂

    @eyeheartsushi2212@eyeheartsushi22126 ай бұрын
    • My mission is accomplished 😂😂

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
    • @@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch LOL

      @eyeheartsushi2212@eyeheartsushi22126 ай бұрын
    • Me too but the stamped clasp scares me

      @boldock23@boldock236 ай бұрын
  • I have a small collection with AP, Rolex and PP watches …and there is also 1 Tudor BB58 on Nato strap …it is not the watch I got most compliments on but it among the top 5 …leaving behind a few way more expensive Rolex models. Also I am happy with the BB58 …of course it has not the same nice finish as the others but I take the watch to the beach and even go swimming in the sea with it. It gives me a lot of freedom which I would not take with my other watches.

    @azido2@azido22 ай бұрын
  • I have the 105 and REALLY wish the wold have polished the case.

    @davidevans8505@davidevans85056 ай бұрын
    • Maybe eventually 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Spot on!

    @user-tq9vk4vt5p@user-tq9vk4vt5p6 ай бұрын
    • Cheers 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Without a second thought, the Sinn. 😊

    @BarnOwl61@BarnOwl616 ай бұрын
    • That’s the spirit 😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Sinn in available in some jewelery stores here in Canada

    @IntegraAEM@IntegraAEM6 ай бұрын
    • Found and visited the only store in Toronto that carries Sinn with very limited selection.

      @georgetsang5780@georgetsang57806 ай бұрын
    • Roldorf & Co in Vancouver is great, got my 556A RS there.

      @justthisguyyouknow42@justthisguyyouknow426 ай бұрын
    • Good to know. Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • The 3 are very different watches from very different brands with different value despite falling under a similar category.

    @mad3m6n@mad3m6n6 ай бұрын
  • Sinn desperately needs a better clasp

    @shipmate3577@shipmate35776 ай бұрын
    • So true 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Grade 2 titanium is pure titanium and grade 5 is an alloy which is I think around 95% titanium and the rest aluminum and vanadium. Grade 2 being lighter but scratches easier. But so far my pelagos don’t scratch any more than my Rolex or grand seiko but it’s much lighter. So grade is not all that bad.

    @dennischen8887@dennischen88875 ай бұрын
    • Exactly 😀😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch5 ай бұрын
  • love the Sinn 104!!

    @danielb.9216@danielb.92166 ай бұрын
    • As you should 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • What's your seeing is the price reduction and therefore the accessibility of high quality automated multi-axis CNC milling machinery over the last 30 years, it's allowed finer tolerances for tighter bracelets and more complex cases to be undertaken at lower cost then having a skilled CNC operator standing over the machine.

    @GM-ii8gs@GM-ii8gs6 ай бұрын
    • Exactly 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • Sinn make fantastic watches - I never feel like I'm stepping down when I take off a Rolex and strap on a Sinn. BTW, Sinn is available in some Excellent ADs in the UK. Squale is also excellent. I think both Sinn and Squale offer better value than either Seiko or Tudor and are hot on the heels of IWC/Breitling. And the quality delta between Tudor/Longines and Omega/Rolex is shrinking by the day.

    @jameshoward9700@jameshoward97006 ай бұрын
    • Very much agree especially on the shrinking distance. Thanks for taking the time to contribute 😀👍

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • shouldn't a SINN U1/U50 and a rolex sub be more suitable comparison ?

    @Potatowarrior89@Potatowarrior896 ай бұрын
    • Possibly, but I went for these three because the fxd and YM are so very new 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • there are authorized dealer of sinn in italy

    @jacopo1258@jacopo12582 ай бұрын
  • There is a store in Australia that stocks Sinn, Ive just discovered the brand and think they are fantastic value.

    @gavinirving9465@gavinirving94656 ай бұрын
    • They are - and unbeknownst to me, Sinn is stocked everywhere except where I am 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
    • Can you inform as to where it is!

      @kamaldaruwalla6172@kamaldaruwalla61724 ай бұрын
    • Define Watches - Noosa

      @gavinirving9465@gavinirving94654 ай бұрын
  • My sinn556i runs +/- 2 sec a day. Really incredible

    @ddanj0331@ddanj03313 ай бұрын
    • Exactly 😊

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch3 ай бұрын
  • I bought two Rolex watches new and below retail. I would never buy a still produced watch above retail.

    @elmarpodiebrad9570@elmarpodiebrad95705 ай бұрын
    • Financially a sound approach for the most part 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch5 ай бұрын
  • Sinn is available here in Australia.👍🏼😎🇦🇺

    @andrewd7586@andrewd7586Ай бұрын
  • The emotion that Squale evokes is bowel motion.

    @nikamichi@nikamichi6 ай бұрын
    • For some, yes 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • You really hold my attention when you speak. Thank you. I love Rolex. I don't even like the name Tudor 😮. Although I do love Rolex, the Submariner and Explorer do not appeal to me, I would always pass on those. I have a soft spot for the Datejust, Day date, and the Daytona. I believe in buying as few as possible and as nice as possible. In the end, you buy what you like and MOST OF ALL what you can afford.😢😢😢

    @rogergrant455@rogergrant45511 күн бұрын
  • I would chose the Rolex but let’s be real, non off these are tool watches and I disagree that there is a trickle down effect in the way you mean. Rolex is very late to the titanium game, you can get a grade 5 titanium watch for under £400 The black fxd is so much nicer than I expected, if it had a date function I would have struggled not to by the one I tried on. Do you realise company’s pay to get judged for these awards? Grade 2 titanium is probably superior to grade 5 if you want a “tool watch” The big difference is marketing. The only brand I would not buy is sinn but that’s mainly due to the clasp, they have just brought out a titanium dive watch that’s Tudor money but with a dismal clasp and 40 hour power reserve. I don’t particularly care that it’s not in house but I would like 70 hours.

    @jamesminshall4601@jamesminshall46016 ай бұрын
    • Agree on the fact that they in reality are not tool watches 😀😀😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • 20 years ago a high end watch was the same price as an entry to mid level watch is today.

    @erikn54@erikn546 ай бұрын
    • Directionally yes 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
  • I would definitely say you'd be hard pressed not to be able to find a decently well-made watch at almost any price range within the last 10 years at least and moving forward. Whether you want to pay a lot more for the luxury aspects which are I think most intangibles, that's all on the particular buyer. Out of the 3 watch brands, barring the specific models exemplified in your video, I have 2 out of 3 of them. A Tudor BB58 (bronze) and Sinn U50 S BS. I had a vintage Rolex but sold it.. it wasn't all that exciting for me to wear, IMHO.

    @khronokraze@khronokraze6 ай бұрын
    • How long have you had the 58 bronze? How’s the patina, on it?

      @eyeheartsushi2212@eyeheartsushi22126 ай бұрын
    • @@eyeheartsushi2212 I'd say maybe 3 months max. Patina is ok. I'm doing maybe the opposite tactic which is to actually keep it cleaner than not. I'm not trying to patina the entire watch.. just in certain locations.

      @khronokraze@khronokraze6 ай бұрын
    • @@khronokrazeGotcha. Thanks for the reply. I like the bronze BB58 and the 925. Own a Heritage Black Bay burgundy.

      @eyeheartsushi2212@eyeheartsushi22126 ай бұрын
    • Good choice on the Bb 😀

      @Mike.thiswatchthatwatch@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch6 ай бұрын
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