Ivanchuk Resigns in a Winning Position - But Who Wouldn't?!
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Polish Ekstraliga (chess24.com) [5] 2023.09.22
D10 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav defence
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.cxd5 cxd5 5.Bf4 Nc6 6.e3 a6 7.Be2 Bf5 8.Nf3 e6 9.Qb3 Ra7 10.Ne5 Nxe5 11.Bxe5 Nd7 12.O-O b5 13.Rfd1 Qa8 14.Rac1 Nxe5 15.dxe5 Be7 16.Nxb5 axb5 17.Bxb5+ Kf8 18.Bc6
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I am a programmer and watched this video during work hours. I assumed the right move and the follow up like in 10 seconds without pausing the video, and when after grand announcement Antonio showed this move I was so excited that I jumped up in my chair, clapped my hands and shouted "YES!!!". This got my boss's attention, and instead of using my bragging right and telling my colleagues how great a chess player I am, I had to pretend that my reaction was caused by finding a solution to a work problem. I hope my boss doesn't come to ask what solution I found, because instead of writing some code, I'm writing this comment.
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Bro, you literally said exactly what I was about to say. I'm also a programmer and I'm currently working right now, I also spent less than 10 seconds to found the move and the following sequence. But I work from home so my boss didn't catch my reaction :D
I'm also here to brag coz i found the move in few seconds😂
Money well earned my man, keep up the great work.
me too so happy lol
I can be proud to play like Ivanchuk - I too can get to a lost position in _'basically no time at all.'_
I get to a lost position as soon as I agree to play a chess game😅
He wasn't lost though that's the videos point
@@PuyolsHonor That's another similarity
The reason I and so many others found Bc2 is because when there's a "pause the video" moment, we start looking for moves like these. But in the middle of a real game, it is different... So here, it was easier finding Bc2 than the sequence after that move, for sure.
Exactly. I don't know how but i instantly saw Bc2 first but then i said naah! This can't be. And then i jumped out of my chair when he said it's Bc2. Lol
Most people probably find the move without calculating all the lines. Basically means you didn't find the move, despite finding the move.
True. It's not about finding the move but the continuation till the end
Agree. Plus I saw Bc2, but not with the d4 follow up, etc.
I actually found it lol, but for the exact reason you said. Only when he said pause the video, it was sort of random move that I guessed and after I tried it, I understood you threaten checkmate, but didn't know how to continue if he captures with the second rook. But totally found it.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." This is the original quote by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, spoken by his character, Sherlock Holmes.
Pin please.
Actually, the quote was, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains must be possible, no matter how IMPROBABLE."
@@jwrobin21I googled it and I couldn't find your version. His is the only one that shows up.
@@OneRichMofoBelieve it or believe it not but Google does not have all the answers. I have read the Sherlock Holmes so I know what I am talking about.
Was about to comment the same thing, I remember reading this in a Holmes story!
Love it! Even with such a a short game Antonio manages to make a highly entertaining and informative video 😎
Recently ivanchuk is playing classical chess just for fun....even in the world cup against magnus you could see that he was not spending any time and resigned the second game in a position which could be drawn.
Yes it is a pity. A player such as Korchnoi was till playing strong grandmaster chess at fifty four and would have given his utmost concentration and effort to any classical game he played at that age.
@@jameshogan6142 Yes that's true....even Anand whenever he plays any classical tornament he plays it with full focus and he is 53! I feel if ivanchuk also plays with more interest he could do much better...
When you peaked in strength in your 20s and 30s, ranked in the top five in the world and won games against Kasparov, Karpov, and Kramnik at their peaks, you have nothing left to prove in your 50s. You just enjoy the game. The energy reserve is simply not the same anymore.
Hans niemann also resigned against kramnik in a winning position. In recent time🎉
Yeah but that was a mate in 11 not a mate in 1. Lol. But seriously new topic Wesley So, Bobby Fischer & Hans Niemann have never provably done anything evil in chess as adults. Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov & Hikaru Nakamura have provably done evil things in chess as adults. Evil : Cheating, baseless accusations, discrimination, etc. Which part here is incorrect?
Pointless discussion as there is no enough fact. Hans was super sus cos how his performace fluctuates with a very big level gap in those fluctuations. Current top players like Carlsen, Naka, and Garry has been consistent with their games. Thats why no one suspects them of cheating. And with their massive experience in chess and facing many different people, Hans' case was the only one with such a big jump that is accompanied with such a massive fluctuation. Plus Hans had a record of cheating. So I think it'd be unfair for us to judge either side. Who are we to judge top players' accusations towards Hans when they clearly are more experienced and they faced Hans themselves? On the other hand how can we defend Hans and prove his innocence? This battle is for Hans alone to prove his strength by having more great games consistently and reestablishing his lost honor due to his past cheating.
His engine probably took too long to show the right move and he improvised 😂
@@bryantimothy8616 Wesley So, Bobby Fischer & Hans Niemann have never provably done anything evil in chess as adults. Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov & Hikaru Nakamura have provably done evil things in chess as adults. Evil : Cheating, baseless accusations, discrimination, etc. Which part here is incorrect?
@@nicbentulanare you a bot? You just copy pasted the whole thing, even keeping the typo 😂😂
Fascinating game. I did manage Bc2 but I agree that the real killer to find would be d4. Bc2 just seemed the only move not to lose almost instantly. 'Deflecting' moves like this, especially when you have material to 'give away' should always be considered. But the follow-up pawn move would be almost impossible when several moves down the line. Good video as always, thank you.
Found bc2 actually instantly, disconnecting the rooks, then the queen trade was kind of a no brainer but that d4 move was definitely way above my head. Still happy I found Bc2 or rather the idea behind it
Let me explain: you landed on that move by pure luck. Not by calculating it. You 'assumed' the move instead of 'seeing' it. That is the difference between you and a 2500+ player.
@@fritswester2833plot twist: commenter is actually a 2600 GM
@@fritswester2833not by luck. It is the only move that doesn't lead straight to checkmate or severe material loss. For me it was also a no-brainer so I think almost everyone would play it. The continuation is not clear at all but Bc2 is obvious. 😊
Same here. Bc2 was not so hard, but d4... o.O
@@fritswester2833I’m not sure I understand you correctly, of course I did calculate the move, it’s just that I have to read the situation first, understanding the key idea here, I didn’t just play the move blindly obviously
Amazing game. Reminded me of your old immortal chess and sorcery series. It is very hard to find such mysterious positions nowadays
I was so happy to find this bishop to c2 idea, it was the only move I could see that ends with the white queen unable to give checks and the black queen threatening checkmate on d2 and if the white rook goes to the only available square a1 then the insane rook captures on a2. Any other move would either prolong the move queen to d2 or just give initiative for blacks attack. I don't usually try to hard in finding the winning move but if it's in a position where it seems nothing can be played I always take my time also I found it pretty quickly I just had to calculate everything else but I failed to see how important that bishop was on e4 though. Love these videos agad you're the best!!❤️❤️
HA HA HA. Riiiigggght.
i found the move, but if i were given the perspective, ivanchuk had a few moves back and no info that there was something in the position, i wouldn't have found it. regardless, i was very happy and still celebrated when u revealed that it was the move i was thinking, i even got chills because of how difficult u described it
There was a comment a few months ago asking if a game had ever ended when there was something more to be done. To that person, here it is. It has finally happened in a game covered on this channel.
Great video! It really emphasizes the need to "play the middle game like a magician" as Spielmann said. Only mad genius would be able to see this continuation in that position.
This is our annual "THIS IS WHY WE LOVE CHESS" video. and this is why this channel is the best. thank you for being part of our lives.
Strange as it is, I found bc2 in a few seconds because of course I have to disconnect the rooks and ease the tension of the attack, but I'm not able to continue since I'm lacking knowledge and vision... Great commentary as always, thank you Antonio!
Saw everything up to d4. I think d4 is the real stellar move here as after bc2 every move from white is some what forced. But to be able to see this line on the move that Ivanchuk resigned would be nothing short of impossible. As always, great video.
Maybe it's just me, but I think another great aspect of this game is when you look up at home with the engine and realize that the piece sacrifice could have been possible (even with engine precisely moves) if you played g4 before actually sacrificing the piece. Great video anyway, but it would have been even better if you showed what difference the move g4 makes : like whereever the bishop goes there is no backrank mate possible (later with the idea Bishop c2) and you could have instead of Ba6 sacrificed the bishop on d5, because after the re-capture the bishop isn't controlling c8 in this variation. In any case it was a well played game.
The way ...d4 comes in and just holds everything together for Black is the truly amazing part of this. And that black D pawn can be captured too, yet it still doesn't help White! That had to be a very bitter loss for Chucky, considering he was up material and could've held out for a few more moves even without needing to find this brilliancy. I don't think the likes of Kasparov or Fisher would've found that winning combination had they been in the same shoes, so it'll go down as yet another engine sequence that coulda-shoulda-woulda made for an epic classic.
Amazing! I swear I thought about that bishop move but couldn't see the pawn move afterwards. This line is insane :]
Actually found the move but was sure I'm overlooking something. Seemed to be the only move that prevents the checkmating pattern you showed just before though. Never would have found it from the resigning position. And I don't even actively play chess :D Edit: ok finding the second one afterwards was harder.
#suggestion I just saw a game where stockfish lost with white against leela, when it got it's own rook voluntarily trapped and misscalculated the game. Incredible. I think it was 2023 ccc semifinals, saw it on reddit post, would be refreshing to see here.
Thank you agad, because you just made my day! I found the move after around 30 secs and was proud as hell!
Omgg, I found it! Never felt happier 😂❤ Thanks for that hype, Agad, it really made my day!
I found the move in like 5 seconds. I also definitely wouldn't have resigned when Chuckie did, because I am nowhere strong enough to think the position must be 100% losing. Sometimes being a weaker player is better, I guess. Edit: Obviously I wouldn't have immediately known Bc2 would work if I wasn't told there's a move that saves the position. This is always important to remember when doing puzzles.
That's why you should always think there is a move that saves the position when you think you could be lost. What is your rating? I didn't find the move.
If you found the move in five seconds you're either Stockfish or you guessed right. Actually I doubt Stockfish find the move in five seconds unless on a very strong computer.
@@raylopez99 As I said, I found it in 5 seconds because I was told there is a move that saves the position. It was pretty easy to see that the rooks must be disconnected or otherwise the position is definitely lost. Given the information I had it was also easy to see that the rook on c8 can't take (the M1 if Rc1xc2 was plain to see for everyone, I assume) the bishop on c2. The queen move was very tricky but then again I knew there was a winning move in the position. If I didn't know black had a winning move, I obviously wouldn't have "found" the move in the sense that I could have been confident it works. Then again if I was playing the position (not the position Chuckie resigned at) I definitely would have tried Bc2 and played at least a couple more moves to see how it plays out. For the other person commenting: I'm rated around 2000.
@@tob564 OK, OK, you admit, like Hans Nieman, that you cheated on the puzzle. Fair enuf.
@@raylopez99 Hans Nieman has cheated on puzzles? I think you lost me right there.
The last 4 or so games featured on this channel with Chucky have been somewhat like this. He's lost it unfortunately. I just hope that he still continues to play the game because it brings him joy.
Mind blowing. Thank you for covering this.
Well his lose made me feel good even the best of the best can lose in such few moves thank you for always sharing the beautiful world of Chess 👊👊👊
Great pause the video moment! Yes I found bc2. I noticed soon that the white king is vulnerable on the back rank, so I stared at Qxa2 for a while, but when that did not work, i started to look specifically for interference moves.
I actually considered the bishop move. But not the pawn d4.
yeah me too. I just saw that taking the bishop with Rc1 was gonna lead to mate so I was like "I bet this is the move, im not gonna even calculate not taking the bishop" lol.
#suggestion You have to show the 4 games between Magnus and Nepo in the AI cup Semifinals today, from holding a losing position in game 1, missing a checkmate in game 2 and the crazy queen-rook endgame from game 4, there was so much to unpack
This is top tier content. Different in so many ways. Loved it!
im almost 40 years old and always remembered ivanchuk as an unique chess player. he finds brilliancies with double exclamations against top masters of his time but never became a world champion challenger.
I agree you are getting older
That was a great analysis. Thank You.
Knowing that there’s a solution makes it easier to find it. Over the board, not knowing that it’s possible, makes it harder to find and easier to dismiss some of the more outlandish options.
Might be the first time I've actually found the move and the queen trade, I haven't been happier than this.
Thank you Antonio. Great video every day. This time I found the right move in about 5 minutes. The key to the solution was timing. I just started my second beer😊
Cheers friend 🍺🍻😊
I saw that the black queen had checkmate in 1 and I briefly considered blocking the rook with the black bishop, but I dismissed the idea when I thought that the other rook could just take it. I didn't consider what could be after the white rook left c8. I also saw pushing the black pawn to d4 and bishop to e4, but I obviously had the moves out of order.
I found the move! I noticed the back rank issues and black has 2 bishops to give up to protect the king. So that bishop move gives some tempo.
Spock? It was Sherlock Holmes! It was the whole point of his method.
I can proudly tell now .I found bc2 that ivanchuk missed. I am so happy now ❤😊
Bc2 was the first move i considered in the position, in only a few seconds as well. Im only rated 1600 and i usually dont find the best moves in agad videos so im pretty proud of myself
Great quote by Spok. Well done. Here is one of my favorites. "It is illogical to assume that all conditions will remain unchanged".
That quote has a much earlier origin than Spock. It first appeared in a Sherlock Holmes novel written by Arthur Conan Doyle.
@@rossmurray6849Spok never claimed that the quote was his own original saying. Spok was well versed in earth history. Live long and prosper.
@@alisterzarkar7163 I don't know what planet you come from, but where I come from if you cite an historical quote and provide an attribution, you should attribute it to the FIRST person who used it.
So tell me, who did Doyle get the quote from?
@@alisterzarkar7163 From no one. He was the first person to write it.
This is just STAGGERING. The best chess video of all time. Agadmator's immortal.
Congratulations to Mr. Harikishna for an excellent game. But I am still a big fan of Mr. Ivanchuk and look forward to seeing more of his games.
I found Bc2 in about 20-30 seconds because I noted black was threatening backrank mate if the rook moved, and also we have two extra bishops so we could throw one away to break momentum ....I feel quite sure Ivanchuk would see this move just as quickly if he simply had the position on the board and didnt quick resign
I looked for our good friend the bishop and found Bc2 in less than 2 seconds. I'm definitely printing this on a shirt since it's one of my achievements 😌🤗
I found the move but not the whole variation, I just noticed the back rank weakness so it came to my mind
Found it. Can't wait to go to the bar and library
I remember resigning in a position with +3 advantage because I thought my attack failed and I am down a rook, but turns out I could have chase the opponent's king to the center and pick off a rook as well
same, i had already two of those otb games where i resigned a winning game where i had to sacrifice to force a draw or similar stuff
Hey agadmator, is it possible, to use/show a sidebar with the adventage for black or white during the match?
Lol, I actually found this one. Once you notice the queen can exploit back rank issues, it gets a little easier to see the weakness. Insane move. Definitely a lot harder to spot in game though. 😅
Proud to say I found this but never would have found it over the board
Bc2 is easy to find. It's all the lines afterwards that are hard! Especially working out that you can get to two rooks and bishop vs queen and feeling confident that is winning.
Incredible upset for Ivanchuk. The sight of having his Queen cornered and his King trapped is enough to train wreck most anyone's foresight.
jokes aside, i (honestly) found that bishop move. my only thinking / logic was - how to cut off rooks communication? then q threatens mate if rook moves away from first row. this supported my logic.
It would’ve been soo amazing if Vasyl have found the bishop move. But then May be the missed masterpieces are the most inspiring ones.
Looks like failure to resign is "a disgusting engine move".
I considered the bishop to c2 move but rejected it because I thought white would take with the top rook and just re-initate the attack next turn. My guess was to go Queen b6, but then I realized I don't have the tempo to force a queen trade. He'll just take the bishop with the rook, and if I retake with with the king it's checkmate by moving up the other rook, and if I take with my queen he won't take my rook but just move the other rook up and pin my queen.
Chess is deep and is getting deeper. I apologise for this as I am a theoretician, and I have been helping create this increased complexity.
I found it! I admit I did not continue to calculate, since I was sure that is the only move that can be played here. So, I admit I would still lose this horribly, but I did find the first move.
younger Ivanchuk crunches a few minutes of classical time and finds that.
I do not find this move to be so difficult to find, since there are not so many candidate moves and since the continuations Agad suggested for white require the rook lift. One of the first moves i considered was Bc2 indeed.
A great analysis by agadmator! Thank you Antonio!
Wow, the game officially ends at 3:04, but the video goes on for over 10 more minutes! How often has that happened in agadmator's videos.
Even when Ivanchuk loses, having him on the board gives us hope that something spectacular will happen.
As soon as I knew there was a move, I found it in 10 secs. Black has two extra pieces and can easily sacrifice one. One rook must guard the first rank, another one puns the bishop. Either one stops doing its job, it is a break for Black and they force queens exchange
Ivanchuk went full Dr Strange there
What other game had a bishop disconnecting the rooks as the solution? The rooks might have been on the e- or f- file and maybe the bishop moved to f5?
I can believe people found the pause-the-video move but not all the follow-ups. Often I can work out the pause-the-video move by seeing it's the only move that "does stuff", but I can't find all the follow-ups. I've seen the tactic of "disconnecting two pieces and there's no good way to re-connect them" before. I think a similar tactic was even the pause-the-video moment before.
I think it's important to note that in order to win in Ivanchuk's shoes one doesn't need to spot the Bc2 move several moves in advance: it's enough just not to resign and then to spot it later when the time actually comes.
that is just a bad day vasily there.... everybody gets to face that even a legend like him...... still feeling bad for him man.
@10.27 black is only +1 and White has two past pawns. What does the eval bar say?
Found it immediately just based on intuition and then I had to calculate.
You won’t find it. - We will see about that. - finds a move for white instead of black
The engine was kept on for 20hrs to crunch the lines
I considered the move, but then thought that it doesn't work😂
I did not find Bc2, I thought I had something with Bd3 which also ended with a queen sacrifice and black with 2 rooks and a bishop for the queen, but I probably made a mistake somewhere on that path.
This incredible move was for me the last option I would choose 🤣🤣🤣
Juegazo!!
@3:53 what the issue with capturing the white bishop with you queen?
I saw bishop to c2, but at the same time I didn't calculate all of the possibilities and probably still would've lost the position XD
Found it without pausing🎉
I actually genuinely found the move because I thought if it was taken the queen delivers back rank mate that's all I calculated though!! I'm so happy wow 😊
I have just seen the game and am happy that I discovered the bishop in a couple of seconds ❤
thank you Antonio, Is the India and the World ready to see new WCC?
That was my first thought but i immediately ignore it. Never saw the back rank mate.
I found bishop c2!!! I wasnt sure why but my gut told me and when I checked the other possible moves I found no better, I laughed out loud when agad said the move was bishop c2
I could believe that someone might find Bc2 because of the back rank weakness, but also finding d4 ? That's totally wild!
I actually found Bc2 (took me 10 min) and was able to continue the game. But I didn't found how castle from there.
I rarely find the moves but I found this one instantly
More based on intuition I guess. No way I could have calculated every line.
This is actually incredible!
The move no one can find and your video of course.
@ the end of the last line, would a white Queen+3pawns be better than 2 rooks and a bishop?
I found the move! I stared at the screen for 15 minutes, got up to make my wife coffee, and when I returned, voila! I reasoned that the communication between the rooks had to disrupted. Otherwise, the position looked absolutely hopeless.
Hi ! One question. The world classic champion Ding Liren where is he ? there has been a number of tournaments and I haven't seen him , nor Agadmator analyze a game by Ding after the World Chess Championship.
This is something I ever wondered. Can a move considered by a blunder by a 3500 ELO engine could be a winning move with a 5000 ELO engine with more depth?
yes
@@peterwinters8587 thank you for your insight :)
I found BC2 and I'm not a ranked chess player at all. But if you hadn't told me there was a great move there, I wouldn't have seen it. My thinking was that there was a real need to block the C column to disconnect the rooks. And I saw that the white rook couldn't leave the back rank to capture the bishop, for the reason that you made clear. So either White would be left trying to complete the attack with only the queen and one rook or he'd have to pull the rook back to take the bishop, in which case RB6 (you did QB6) would force at worst a queen trade, since the white queen would have no safe squares. (White could save the queen by trading the rook for the back-rank bishop, but is that better?) It was really just a combinatorial question. What looked like a queen and two rooks vs a queen and a rook had to be changed by bringing in the bishop that looked like it couldn't do anything.
Great game!
That was just incredible.
Awesome