Crazy Binomial Integral from Cambridge Integration Bee

2024 ж. 4 Нау.
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Integral between - infinity and infinity of n choose x, from Cambridge Integration Bee 2023/2024 Round 2.

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  • When I saw this in the competition this integral made me physically sick

    @prioski@prioski2 ай бұрын
  • Wonderful video. I love how this result is analogous to the discrete case since holding n fixed and summing k from 0 to n is also 2^n.

    @complexplane6756@complexplane6756Ай бұрын
  • Sophomore's dream: ∑ binom(n, x) = ∫ binom(n, x) = 2^n

    @nz_gamer@nz_gamer25 күн бұрын
    • 😂

      @primenumberbuster404@primenumberbuster40417 күн бұрын
  • Cool! I love how it's equal to the discrere sum of binomial coefficients on naturals.

    @akraminfo@akraminfo2 ай бұрын
  • You really explained this integral super well and went into good amounts of detail for the *easier* steps, I really appreciate that someone not so familiar with all this stuff can come away feeling like they understood some of the ideas presented!

    @erikross-rnnow5517@erikross-rnnow551720 күн бұрын
  • Great work! I like how at the end, you go through all the work to compute I_0 only to find out it's just 1

    @TheAliencreeper13@TheAliencreeper132 ай бұрын
    • It's the cardinal sine sinc(x) regularized so that the zeros are at the integers but also regularized so that the integral is 1.

      @notfancy2000@notfancy2000Ай бұрын
  • beautiful solution

    @neg2sode@neg2sode19 күн бұрын
  • Wooow what a beautiful solution 😮❤

    @nassirali1737@nassirali173716 күн бұрын
  • so nice ❤

    @user-ce3ip5lx9t@user-ce3ip5lx9t2 ай бұрын
  • sweet and awesome (*smile)

    @chemnobeliumlab1520@chemnobeliumlab1520Ай бұрын
  • That’s wild

    @jackmaitland8496@jackmaitland8496Ай бұрын
  • i remember this one in the competition - i shouldve guessed the answer knowing the analogous discrete case!

    @josephb5417@josephb541716 күн бұрын
  • This integral is only computable if you extend (n choose k).

    @pokemonjourneysfan5925@pokemonjourneysfan592528 күн бұрын
  • Oh wow, that is astounding. Does this definition work for non-natural values of n? Meanwhile, it was very fascinating to see the Euler reflection formula emerging :)

    @wiwaxiasilver827@wiwaxiasilver827Ай бұрын
    • It was mentioned that the identity used in the first step works for the Gamma function definition of the binomial as well, so I presume that everything works just fine for all real values of N as a result. Possibly even over complex N as long as the Gamma and binomial continue to behave properly.

      @HeavyMetalMouse@HeavyMetalMouse18 күн бұрын
    • @@HeavyMetalMouseWould that essentially mean everything else besides when the negative integer poles of the Gamma function comes up? That would be an extremely powerful result. I could understand that it would definitely hold over the x side of things but I wasn’t completely sure it would hold for non-natural n.

      @wiwaxiasilver827@wiwaxiasilver82718 күн бұрын
    • @@HeavyMetalMouse I’m in the process of testing the result in Desmos empirically, and while the convergence seems to work quite well for positive n, integer or otherwise, it seems to start diverging after n < -1.

      @wiwaxiasilver827@wiwaxiasilver82717 күн бұрын
  • Infinity

    @alexchan4226@alexchan422617 күн бұрын
  • Cool! Can check using result by summing each row of Pascal’s triangle, as each row is just all possible values of n choose k for integer n, k

    @Qugfvraceysgvigaivys@Qugfvraceysgvigaivys23 күн бұрын
  • Is it really okay to completely disregard the fact that the Γ function is discontinuous at all negative integers and 0?

    @Cloud88Skywalker@Cloud88Skywalker18 күн бұрын
    • Of course. That set has measure zero after all.

      @frogkabobs@frogkabobs16 күн бұрын
    • @@frogkabobs Sure, but shouldn't it be checked that the improper integral converges in all those cases? I mean, the integral of 1/x dx between 0 and 5 doesn't converge and it only has one discontinuity.

      @Cloud88Skywalker@Cloud88Skywalker16 күн бұрын
  • Nice, nice, I have got a nice one for you. Show that \int_0^1 (x * [1/x]) dx = pi^2/12 , with [ ] being the floor function.

    @__-1234@__-123425 күн бұрын
  • Hello 2^n

    @cornucopiahouse4204@cornucopiahouse420424 күн бұрын
  • do you maybe have any resources for the gamma definition of a binomial?

    @kebzone990@kebzone9902 ай бұрын
    • If you know the factorial definition of the binomial coefficient then you can rewrite each of the factorials using the gamma function as defined at 5:25. If you’re still confused, I suggest you search “binomial coefficient wolfram mathworld” on google, and look at the wikipedia page for the gamma function 🙂

      @LukasTrak@LukasTrak2 ай бұрын
    • @@LukasTrak Thanks a lot!

      @kebzone990@kebzone9902 ай бұрын
  • What about integrating this between 0 and n ??

    @Faxbable@Faxbable12 күн бұрын
  • At 4:04 could you explain to me why you can assert this? Thanks. Also very good video, straight to the point.

    @Sir_Isaac_Newton_@Sir_Isaac_Newton_Ай бұрын
    • Replacing the x+1 with x just results in a translation by 1 unit. As we are integrating between -inf and +inf, the total area under the curve would still remain the same, hence the integral becomes I_(n+1).

      @LukasTrak@LukasTrakАй бұрын
  • Can you use the gamma function for this as it is only defined for x>0?

    @bananablitzcoding1696@bananablitzcoding169624 күн бұрын
    • The gamma function is defined for all x aside from non-positive integers, so yes

      @frogkabobs@frogkabobs16 күн бұрын
  • NO FUCNIKG WAY

    @Nickzzzera_@Nickzzzera_Күн бұрын
  • Euler’s Γ is not a total function.

    @yecril71pl@yecril71pl27 күн бұрын
    • but you can expend it to a meromorphic function on the complexe field.

      @damienrobine6782@damienrobine678222 күн бұрын
  • Not sure, if it was eligible, to change from factorial to gamma, to solve that shit integral being 1 in the end.

    @zyklos229@zyklos22918 күн бұрын
    • It is. That’s how you would extend binom(x,y) to x and y real in the first place.

      @frogkabobs@frogkabobs16 күн бұрын
  • first

    @kom1i@kom1i2 ай бұрын
  • Answer is 0. Next question?

    @LookToWindward@LookToWindward2 ай бұрын
    • ?

      @frietvet@frietvet2 ай бұрын
    • @@frietvet Taking it literally, this function is only defined over the natural numbers

      @LookToWindward@LookToWindward2 ай бұрын
    • @@LookToWindward The function can be extended to all real numbers by using the gamma function in place of factorials. As we are integrating between -infinity and +infinity, we use the gamma function definition.

      @LukasTrak@LukasTrak2 ай бұрын
    • @@LukasTrak I know, it was a joke.

      @LookToWindward@LookToWindward2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@LookToWindward you found the most weird way to joke lol

      @ThorfinnBus@ThorfinnBus25 күн бұрын
  • OMG you could have shortened the video by 50% at least - many of the steps are trivial.

    @purplerpenguin@purplerpenguin20 күн бұрын
  • Nice! But can’t we just say that the binomial only makes sense when 0

    @pawk7609@pawk7609Ай бұрын
    • Unfortunately, the binomial does ‘make sense’ for all real x using the gamma function definition of the binomial coefficient.

      @LukasTrak@LukasTrakАй бұрын
    • ​@@LukasTrakyou should say fortunately rather than unfortunately.

      @ThorfinnBus@ThorfinnBus25 күн бұрын
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