Why There Aren't Diesel Motorcycles
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I love cars, but I really love motorcycles. Driving a fast car can feel like flying a jet. But a fast bike, that feels like flying with a cape. I’ve spent a huge part of my life on two wheels. I’ve sacrificed time, money, friendships, even my own body to bikes. But after all that, I’ve never ridden - or even seen - a diesel motorcycle. And that got me curious: Why aren’t there any diesel motorcycles? Well, we’re about to find out!
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Interesting so why doesn't Harley make a diesel motorcycle? They already have all the downsides
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly!
It would be too reliable.
And yet they are considered a premium brand. I don't get it at all
@@siraff4461 yeah it isn't fun if you don't have to repair every 100 miles
"Diesel costs ten percent less than gasoline." Lmfao that didn't age well.
That's truth at me even more than 10% rn at like 30%
I found that funny as diesel has always costed more where I am than gasoline.
Depends where you live, some diesel isn't even taxed
You could run a diesel bike on heater oil. No dot man is gonna pull a bike
Yes that made me laugh too as diesel is much more expensive then regular gasoline right now. Why do you think the truckers are crying. Thanks a lot Brandon!! Fjb!!
i love how he stated several times how much simpler diesel is then explain several complications, but in short diesel is scalable up and gas down. That is why container ships run diesel but a lawnmower is gasoline. Also i ride my bike in quite cold weather and have to wait to build up heat to run properly, diesel is famous to have massive problems starting cold and take way too long to get to operating temperature. The biggest killer for diesel is short distance when you build up carbon deposits fast and dont bring it to temperature to burn it off.
same issue i’ve had working on marine diesels. You gotta run them long enough to prevent that buildup and put a load on them. Although if you run them and maintain them frequently they will keep running
You sure explained the difference very, very well!
There are actually many diesel lawn mowers (they call them lawn tractors though) but yeah the best way to run a diesel is to turn it on break off the key and leave it on. You will get little to no fuel in the oil and it will run for centuries lol.
I own a modern diesel car and I don't have to wait for glow plugs to heat up, the engine starts right up at any temperature.
I know combustion engines suck but i just fucking love diesels man
The Enfield Taurus was popular in India's rural areas, where the customer's priorities are typically different. They're usually not looking for flash or speed, but reliability, low TCO, fuel efficiency, ruggedness, simplicity (easier repair etc.) and durability, and the Taurus offered all that in spades. I remember an auto magazine once jokingly saying that the Taurus would reliably give you 60 kmpl (kilometres per litre/ 226.8 mpg) no matter the load ("whether there was one person, two people or you were towing an ox with it" (or something like that)). Never rode it myself, but the petrol (gasoline) version of the Royal Enfield Bullet was a smooth, effortless cruiser.
I owned a 1957 Royal Enfield Bullet 350cc. Made in Redditch (UK), I had many different British Bikes. The Enfield was outstanding when compared to every other Brit Bike. Always regretted parting with it.
Was looking for a comment mentioning the Taurus
@@peterduxbury927 Enfield has come a loooong way since then - check out their newer bikes if you can. Btw Enfield riders are practically a cult in India and you occasionally still see well maintained examples from the 1950s-1970s. My grandfather owned one from the mid 60s. He was so excited to tell me about it in 2019 just before he passed away. Apparently while going downhill, he'd switch off the engine and stand up (to stretch his legs) and it would slowly go "dhuk... dhuk... dhuk...". There are also stories of seeing ghosts on the highway during night rides. Fun stuff :P
I spotted one in mint condition maybe 5 years ago in my village and I had no idea it was a Taurus(wasn't much into bikes back then) but knew it was the first ever diesel bike I saw. And man was it solidly built. I didn't get to ride it but I did however sit and turn the beast on... It sounded and vibrated crazy, it felt as if it was possessed by an untamed beast waiting to come out. Will never forget the impression that it gave me. That bike was also a reason why I started looking more into bikes and slowly falling in love with them.
@@thomasb282 I dont think they make it anymore
KLR-650 bike the marine corps uses will run on either jet fuel or diesel. That’s not bad. For a few gallons of diesel and a box of crayons you can keep the bike and the rider fueled up and ready to go.
I see what you did there !
>Facepalm
@@VinnyMartello Huh? What did he do there?
They were pulled several years ago because they kept filling them up with gasoline even though they are diesel😖
It’s a running joke about marines being dumb and eating crayons. Guess I’m not one to talk I was Air Force haha.
"Bikes have to be small and lightweight" *Harley Davidson*: "Am i a joke to you?"
Harely's look like they should roll coal
Goldwing: hold my beer
Yes
Yes is The answer
Yup
I remember going on a fairly long ride on royal Enfield diesel once. Didn't feel any potholes on Indian roads.. mostly because the thud from the engine was constantly re-aligning my bones and changing the pace of my heart every now and then. 😅
When I was 15, I spoke with owner of a Royal Enfield Diesel. Swapped with an agro engine. Owner complained of weight and bad handling.
"in 2000, one year before I was born.." Fuck, I'm old.
No doubt. I was winding down my 10 years of crazy in 2000. Edit: after giving it some more thought. My statement is incorrect. Had 3 more years to go.
@@alelectric2767 2000 the year before I left school In England (age 15 at the time
For real
1952
I was thinking the same thing.
A diesel conversion kit was available back in the 90's for Royal Enfield 350 cost was around 20000₹ that's roughly 270$
are you a bot?
That's what I wanted to say
Ninteduthu choicho poori
Royal Enfield is garbage
@@ajayvgopal7929 ഡേയ് ഡേയ്, chill da😂
Man I’m a car guy and a bike guy, it makes me so happy to see donut and Jeremiah doing more bike vids! F2F FTW
+1 for the great education. My favorite compression raising trick is pushing the piston's crown into the heads, though that can only raise the compression ratio so far. I wonder if a sideways OP 2 -cyl engine would be a nice balance, get nice high compression ratios, & be able to rev higher from the shorter strokes....
"Some people might like a motorcycle that's loud and vibrates too much." Aren't those called Harleys?
Motorized bicycle 😂
Yes, you successfully identified the direction in which he was throwing shade.
And Norton Commando's
@@brianfawcett326 they only vibrate in one direction
Hardley abletoo. IE test bed for loctite, IE the most efficient machine ever, at converting gasoline to noise
The diesel Royal Enfield bullet is a legend in India for it's mileage. Edit:- thanks for the likes. 👁️👄👁️
The vibrations will kill you tho😂
Also for the smoke it emits
The vibration is strong enough to numb your balls
@@ralone8314 that's just another pro in my opinion
This was my first thought after reading the title
Two acquaintance of mine had "Royal Enfield Taurus" both were satisfied with it's performance. Both were city users not long distance user. The time period when this bike was launched there was huge price difference between Diesel and Petrol. May be they are not using this bike anymore because of lack of spare parts. It's engine looked like and sounded like regular small agriculture water pump's engine.
great way of explaining things and really good animations!!!
"Some people... Might like a motorcycle that's loud and vibrates their butts." I see Harley fans are getting some shade today :D
Lmao I like to think of it as safety with sound and free butt massage 😂
That vibration thing is actually crucial for the driver, if your hands (i.e.) are exposed to prolonged periods of a mild vibration, then your hands will end up shaking for some time after the vibration stopped. That can become a nerve injury, if the vibration is high and prolonged enough.
My 88tc disagrees; barely any vibration at all 😁
When you want your Dyna Death Wobble multiplied by 10
@@jacobmckee5862 I wasn't being 100% serious, don't worry.
KLR650 Diesel dawg. But I'm pretty sure a KLR will run on moonshine anyways
Very true yammie
yam spotted
Oh shit its the Yam
That's the Hayes M1030 Shown at 2:07
Shut up, paid actor
15:03 It depends which tanks - for instance, turboshaft engines of M1 Abrams can run on practically everything, from JP-8 aviation kerosene to even perfumes. For those who don't know, turboshaft engine is a modified version of a jet engine, but with enormous turbine. It's extremely fuel-hungry, but can run on practically any fuel and with practically any power output.
FYI, there are also two-stroke diesel engines. Don't know if they've ever been put in a motorcycle, but I think they're typical in modern train locomotives, which are hybrid diesel/electric.
Detroit diesel ⛽ truck 🚚 engines are two stroke
@Lane AWD sick
They need a supercharger or turbo though, which again, doesn't scale down well.
Im trying to put a 6-71 in my Harley frame, but its not fitting 🤣
A motorcycle that’s heavy and vibrates too much would suck: *Harley Davidson left the chat*
Boss Hoss comes to mind...
Did you see fortnine video on Harley's tho tho
😂😂😂😂
@Jordon Carlson Probably because you can't go through the twisties on it, not maneuverable enough to loose the cops etc:)
As a Harley rider I can confirm
There is no way that Jeremiah was born in 2001. He looks a lot older
He's in his 40s he's fuckign with you
I was born in 2001 and I ain't looking very pretty either.
@@joanneday3380 I remember seeing something else in another video and it said he was born in 2001
@@patsteve9529 yeah Joanne Day is right, he’s just kidding. He absolutely wasn’t born in 2001
All the vibrations of the motorcycle life has aged him
More motorcycle content, please!!!!! I love listening to Jeremiah talk about anything. He's so knowledgable.
thanks for covering this because It's something I always wondered. can't wait to hear the rest of it
"They discontinued it in 2000, one year before I was born." Me: Wait, Jeremiah is only 20 years old?! That's crazy. He's got a couple of city miles on him.
Me: Wait, people born in 2000 are already 20 y/o?
@@andrisb1 20/21 yes
apparently 2 years too late to hear the lyrics 'Trust me on the sunscreen'
Crazy I'm older them him born in 2000😂😂 feels weird
It's a running joke
“I love cars, but I really LOVE motorcycles” as well! I’d love to see more motorcycle content from Donut. I’m a little bit of a BMW Boxer fanboy. Naturally, anything that covers any mode from das bairische motoren werke is cool by me!
Seconded, would like more motorcycle content
Third
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Finally some motorcycle content from Donut! More please!
Bullet electra 😻😾
Royal Enfield India made a diesel variant of their bikes, the Royal Enfield Bullet Diesel or Taurus, it had a 325cc single-cylinder engine. Launched in 1993, the 325cc Royal Enfield Taurus (Bullet Diesel) motorcycle was specifically made for the Indian market in order to curb the rising trend of fitting a custom diesel engine in the 350cc Bullet frame.
ALSO, klr 650 is a dope bike. so easy to work on, literally made to be worked on outside someplace. Only thing is, it don't go fast and in major traffic, acceleration is the thing that makes motorcycles be viable to me.
Today I learned that Jeremiah's younger than me. I now feel even less accomplished. Smashing
I guess it's a joke but I'm also confused by it.
me too...me too
yeaaah same here ... Leo U. says it's a joke, maybe it is ...
There is no way that guy is 20.
same here mehn! but Nigeria my country, i am lucky to be alive!
Jeremiah : Long stroke, high low end torque, low high end power, center of gravity and balance problems, vibrations etc... are bad for bikes. Harley Davidson : Yes!
But, muh heritage!
Guys with goatees, leather 'biker' vests that they got off the rack at the dealership, and white New Balances are SHOOK rn
@RobertRagnarsson Rides to Applebee's in the next town over with the boys for drinks and to hit on college girl servers
Excellent video. Very informative. I'd also always wondered this.
I know this video is 2 years old, and nobody cares, but Kawasaki made a diesel version of the klr 650 that was so awesome that the marine corps used it. You can find them used for sale.
I’m surprised harley owners don’t diesel swap their bikes! They’re already: big heavy loud vibrating underpowered high torque low power… I’d imagine harley riders would happily coal roll people too!
Swapping a non-motorcycle designed engine into a motorcycle has a massive barrier due to motorcycle transmissions are normally integrated as part of the motorcycle engine block. Even if you had an off the shelf transmission the ratio's would need to be adjusted regardless if it was derived from automobile or motorcycle. Using an automobile transmission would have such short gear ratio's that it would spin the tires and / or wheelie at inconvenient times in particular in the midst of a curve. Using a motorcycle transmission the gear ratio's would be so long that the top speed would be horrendous as the max diesel RPM is half or even lower compared to typical motorbike engine. Either option would also have the problem of properly aligning the belt, chain, or driveshaft transferring power to the rear wheel. Necessitating a clean slate frame design hence the lack of swap kits.
@@Cerberus984 well if those are the issues, more gears could simply be used. I'm still very surprised at the market has not created some sort of gutless diesel motorcycle yet akin to Harley-Davidsons
Hatley davidson engines are very powerful espescially the screaming eagle ones
@@tambosnipes1652 no, they're very powerful 'Harley' engines. Compared to sport bikes, the horse power they make vs the size of the engine isn't great. The torque numbers are nice but that's not the whole story of any race. My Indian FTR makes 120hp out of 1200cc's from the factory. Compare that to a sportster 1200 at what, 58hp? Also, you have to buy the screaming eagle stuff separately and then have it installed, not a cheap option. My 06 CBR1000 and 05 GSXR1000 were making upwards of 150hp from the factory. While the torque was much lower than the big Harley engines, the Harley would lead a race for maybe 60ft and then get blown away and this is mostly due to the weight of the Harley keeping the front end down. Now the 1000cc sport bikes all make around 200hp or more. I'm not trying to sound confrontational or anything, just comparing apples to oranges on the internet. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_motorcycles_by_acceleration
Someone stuck a v10 in a motorcycle. If there's a will there's a way.
This was a refreshing change of pace, so I'd definitely like more motorcycle content from you guys.
this
Then go watch and join a motorcycle channel fool
@@minimanadam yeah, but we want it in donut flavors. 🙄
I agree, not really a huge bike guy but this was a good video I enjoyed it
Furry
For many years I worked for a company that created mods for 4 stroke singles. Back when the US Military was trying to reach the "One Fuel" goal of all NATO countries (everything on the ground would run on diesel), we worked on a custom crankshaft and rod assembly for a company with the military contract to create a diesel engine for the KLR. The plan was to utilize as many of the KLR components as possible to keep cost low and parts sourcing easy. We tried many different designs for the rod assembly, main bearing, and piston, but even after finding solutions to most issues an Achilles heel remained; galling of the small end of the rod, meaning a radically different oiling system would be required. The company went back to the drawing board and basically built a completely new engine, using only the KLR gearbox and a few other stock components. I never got to see the innards of the end result, but did see plans and exploded diagrams, it's an amazing design. And no, I'm not going to say which company we were working with, there were many given the same contract with Hayes coming out as the winner.
Saw a homemade Diesel bike....used a frame from early 80's Enduro, and a one lung 16Hp diesel, then he used a golf cart trans and some custom machining to make use of the chain.
That military diesel KLR looks like the ultimate post apocalypse bike
Considering how durable and the gas its compatible with, its essentially the post apocalypse bike
The only problem is that it's a klr
@@AspearMotorSports that's not actually a problem though.
My thoughts exactly.
Also have a drz
Diesel engines: big, heavy, vibrate, low revs. Harleys: hold my beer.
Cummins swapped Harley
@@Wyatt-kj7ouDodge got close with the tomahawk.
@@robbsclassics the prototype was the viper gas v10. Not diesel
@@brianwilson3076 Yes, it was.
@@robbsclassics it was the 8.3 from the viper. Gasoline engine. 9 were produced. All the same engine.
Many thanks for this video, it explained the issues really well, I now feel I actually understand the differences
The KLR650 is calling. 10gal diesel tank FTW! I have owned a KLR250 and KLR650, and am looking for a 650 diesel now.
As a car driver and motorcyclist 50-50, I want more motorcycle stuff, yes, yes and definitely yes.
Motorcycle Pit? 🤔
Yes! More Moto content please.
Well that explains why we don’t see vin diesel on motorcycle in the fast and furious movies often
Not enough seats for the family
Diesel doesn’t make enough FAMILY per minute for him
Underrated comment 😂
@@nikc6320 true! LMAO!
he should've been vin petrol
There was a diesel bike called Ecorider, it was made in Scotland and designed for forestry and farming.
Nice video Sir. Liked the explanations. I wonder if you are willing to take a look at what is/maybe going down with Electric motorcycles? Performance wise, they are likely to outclass most gasoline bikes if properly designed. The main problem is conceivably going to be energy storage sufficient to satisfy the range expectations of most bikers.
''Diesel engines have less parts that could fail'' *laughs in diesel mechanic*
@Spartan_Royalty Would the ability of diesels to take any oil for fuel a benefit?
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Technically yes but in most countrys thats tax fraud.
The only thing that make diesel complicated is just emissions system. Other than that, it's as simple as back in late 19 centuries
I laughed at that too. I thought it was well known that the tradeoff for better mileage and more torque was an awful time when something failed.
I'm laughing in 97 7.3
Just like my ex girlfriend used to say " longer the shaft, longer the stroke" unfortunately she always said that to the neighbour.
Underrated comment of the year
Lawl
F
Yikes 😆
I really like your content keep it up ! I would appreciate, and I think I'm not the only one, that you write the conversation to the metric system for an easier understanding for people outside the US
when i worked at a truck stop in reno nevada, years ago. some guy from tacoma washington had a honda goldwing fueling up his bike on the diesel side. guy came in to get some supplies for the road. he daid he converted his bike into bio diesel and heading to las vegas.
I’d love to see something like an 800cc single cylinder diesel bike that gets a hundred miles a gallon and can cruise at 70mph. Acceleration be damned.
Taurus Enfield with a small turbo will do it...
He has the solution silk screened on his T-shirt: TURBOCHARGER!!! (Yes, it can help)
The British army was playing with 1200CC diesel motorbikes a good few years back. Horizontally opposed BUT with a single combustion chamber in the middle and it was 2 stroke. (look up a deltic engine to get a rough idea). Nearly 200 MPH cruising at 70MPH. Top speed something like 150ish?
many years ago, here in the UK, i read in Motorcycle news that someone was taking older Triumph Tiger modles and putting in the smart car diesel engine. i think that was an 800cc diesel engine. not sure if it took off but was an interesting read for those out there that are not interested in speed and love to cruise and enjoy the ride lol
Facte
Sommer motorrader have diesel bikes. Gas mileage on that thing is; - hey bud! check out fuel? -There is some liquid on the bottom the tank - we 'll fill it next week.
Oh look, there’s diesel residue in the tank. I might have to refill it before leap year
Considering the fact that Im driving 96 Grand Marquis this diesel motorcycle thing is starting to sound pretty nice
Underrated thing about this video is how deep into the math it gets and correctly adding that to the equation.
You can do fuel injection with gasoline engines, too. There are upsides to the normal carburettor … especially when you do not keep the engine straight and level - think Spitfire. They had a fun time with negative g’s when the 109 did them - the 109 had fuel injection and the Spitfire a carburettor system that would stop delivering any fuel to the engine while in negative g’s - but would successfully overfill the carburettor and thus cause more problems once more normal situations reappeared. That meant the momentary loss of power while following through the manoeuvre and thus losing speed … Also you can run a high-power large-volume engine cooler and leaner by having a cross draft with both valves open for a long time - there is no fuel lost here - removing more used air and burn waste products and remove heat from the engine without using evaporative cooling of a rich fuel mix. This helps fuel economy. As I understand it, you’d still use a spark plug, though, you are just mixing fuel and air in the cylinder, not in the carburettor.
I'm a huge car guy but never thought of this clicked out of interest, already love the show. So I liked in the ads
You should try them, they are like tiny diet cars
Let's see. Under powered, over weight, vibrates, is loud,...I'm surprised Harley-Davidson didn't make one. That pretty much describes all of their bikes. And a lot of Harley buyers make them louder and shake more
I think they basically won't let you off the showroom without installing an aftermarket exhaust.
Yeah! Don’t just enjoy your bike! Throw shade at other riders for not liking the same thing you do! Insult them by insinuating that they’re stupid! Now you’ve turned simple enjoyment of your bike in to something much spicier by adding hate and disrespect! Genius. More power to you. And as an added plus? If you happened to be insecure and immature, telling people they’re stupid for not liking what you like might make you feel better about yourself! Dude, you got it all figured out over there.
@@FUNKOfilms don’t the vast majority of car enthusiasts get aftermarket exhausts ? And almost every motorcycle, regardless of brand?
@@FUNKOfilms Are you bashing people for modifying their vehicle? I'm sorry, am I in the right room? Could've sworn I was watching a Donut video where that's done 99% of the time....
@@caruser4 I'm not bashing anyone. Just poking fun at Harleys man chill.
I didn't see anyone mention anything about the fact that you guys accidentally put fuel efficiency where torque shouldve been on the slide comparing the Royal Enfield Taurus to the Royal Enfield Bullet. Love you guys and I love coming back to watch these older videos. More bike content, please!
My relative has a 1970s diesel Enfield, has enough torque to pull a full SUV or more uphill, and dude sounds like a beast... Also it's reliable as heck with extremely good economy like 60+km/l
Great video, thanks. Royal Enfield had a diesel approx 500cc, in the 1950s. My mate Garry had one, from what I understand, they were a special order. I don't know much about them at all. It fired once every lamp-post, and was a poor handling bike due to fly wheel inertia and slow to alter revs relative to throttle input. Up side was he could achieve an easy 400 to 450 kms in the back roads and hills and 500 kms on main roads, it would slowly wind up to 120kph and thump along merrily sounding like a hyperactive Lister water pump. It could also pull a bulldozer out of mud with its torque. Garry also had a 3 wheel English service bike with a diesel from the late 1940s, approx 500 made by a niche manufacturer
It had a cement mixer engine or so it said from what I remember of a magazine review of the bike. It did say with a considerable amount of imagination you could imagine you were on a standard British big single.
Think the diesel Royal Enfield sold well in India, & from what i heard was also made for a while in India?
Modern turbodiesels can compete. Not to the end of the video yet but I hope he mentions the one the US military uses. Hayes M1030 if you want to search. It can burn anything and go anywhere. It would be a bit lighter if either of those requirements could be removed, but if you ask me it's still one of the best bikes ever made, all-around. Edit: as hoped, he did get to it. :D Amazing piece of machinery, the cost could come down if more were made. I know the top speed isn't impressive, but imagine doing even 65 on dirt and uphill, with a heavy pack slung to the back and burning a tank full of twice-filtered gutter oil. "We don't need another hero."
Yube bobers that make these stupid vids should be running the country
I knew it would be a good story when you said “ my mate Gary “
Actually, a very talented mechanic in my hometown built a small number of diesel bikes based on the Suzuki LS650 Savage I think. He called them Diesel Wiesel (weasle in english). Looked crazy, sounded crazy and was pretty cool 😊
Weasel in " proper " English, unless you're trying to sell coffee, then it's " Civet ", lol.
Love donut, love Jeremiah, don't know how to spell it. Love what you guys do, keep creating content, it's great
Thanks for the awesome information!
So it sounds to me that a Diesel engine would be more suited for a cruiser/touring bike rather than a 'sport' bike.
As he said during the video "if you watched(?)", diesel engine are loud and shaking so bad it makes the rider hand numb and the sound is just pain in your ear lol
@@manddaallaa Well you should be wearing Ear Pro either way, and lots of foam and rubber and other comfortable materials will fix the vibrations.
@@manddaallaa Any engine will tire your ears after a couple of hours of riding. Plus the wind noise. That's the first thing I learned in my first travel: earplugs and windshield are mandatory.
And then there are people who hang their caravan after a veteran tractor for the road trip.
@@moteroargentino7944 What i learned, is that you are a big girly man. Just get a car and shut your mouth.
KLR fanboy here, had 4 of them over the years. The diesel versions are unicorns in the KLR world!
They were military use right?
@@bendover3820 I’m pretty sure
I once saw a KLR diesel for sale at of all places a Harley Davidson dealership years ago.
Yes i alsp vaguely remember a duel fuel Urus bike
I rode the klr in the Marines. They were multi fuel so you could run gas diesel kerosene!!
Thank you for making motorcycle content. I would watch it religiously if you made more!
bro, this was so educational thanks man
“Doesn’t want a bike that’s heavy and vibrates a lot and you wouldn’t want to take on long trips” Me who’s taken a bagger H-D across half the country
Lol. I was on a 1000km ride with some mates and the Harley that was with us did indeed shake itself apart over that distance. We were constantly pulling over to bolt it back together.
Diesels Vibrate 10x harder than a H-D, used to know a guy with a diesel ATV it would vibrate your entire body sore like no tomarrow.
@@iamthebroker what year was is? The newer ones with the M8 motor are pretty smooth. Even the twin cam although it did vibrate when stationary is smooth once running. Last time I heard that happening to a Harley it was a 1972 Shovel head made during the AMF days. And this was only because the owner wanted a classic but didn’t maintain the bike worth shit.
@@antoniocampos6627 couldn’t tell you what model. It was a bit of shitter and the gear select lever kept vibrating loose. In the end we had to wire it on. I suspect it was badly maintained by its owner. I had two previous Harley and never had that problem, still have one now.
Tbf harleys don't shake a lot while running. It's just when you idle it that it shakes.
They made Rotary motorcycles which I always thought that was kinda wild
suzuki RE5!
Norton F1 🤤
@@o0westwood0o Yes, I've heard of that one!!
or a 6 cil Honda cbx
Yeah I forgot about those. Pretty sick
Interesting tidbit East Germany used to make a Vtwin diesel motor. And when Germany unified they had a buy back program to get all those diesel vehicles off the road. My understanding they paid very well. So very few engines survived.
As a KLR650 fan, I'd love to have a Hayes diesel bike. Then again the biggest complaint I have on the KLR650 is the lack of power and vibrations.
Hi Friends I am Anji M Swami from India and in our place (southern part of India) Diesel motor cycles are common. We used to mount Grieves 325 CC single cylinder diesel engine in Royal Enfield motor cycles. The fuel efficiency is around 70-80 KM/Littre. Even I used on such machine for six months immediately after my college. First the technique was introduced in Gobichettipalayam a small town in Erode District of Tamil Nadu the Southern part of India.
Isn't the fumes really bad though? It's gotta be strong idling at a light.
Same as Africa... And China all over the place. High revving small diesels.
@@alklazaris3741 suitable for small towns with not much traffic -- like I guess small towns in Erode District; would be very unfriendly to other citizens of used much in a large city
I'm sure you have a lot of interesting vehicles down there in southern India. I think Indian car culture is pretty unique, even though I'd never be able to drive there lol
@@trueriver1950 nah bro its not a small town that you think its mostly a heavy to moderate traffic during 6am to till 10pm im also in erode
As cars become more numb, autonomous and expensive, motorcycles are the last refuge of the auto enthusiast. Hope y’all do more on bikes in the future. Love this show 🍩
I still believe thoroughly that older cars will always be available to purchase, drive, and modify. We don’t HAVE to purchase newer electric autonomous vehicles.
@@videoviewer8818 until they mandate that we have to buy electric cars.
@@videoviewer8818 I agree but they won’t be mainstream. Owning/driving an ICE car will be limited to enthusiasts and have a much much smaller market , which inherently will increase the barrier to entry w.r.t. cost. The same way that no one banned recreational horse riding or yachting after cars and airplanes went mainstream, doesn’t mean it’s accessible to the masses anymore.
@@videoviewer8818 until eventually there are no older I.C.E cars to go around.
@@ZX-es9zw they can’t do that lol you can’t ban old stuff that already exists
Built a hemi with a friend that had very high compression with dome top pistons, and valve relief cuts, honestly there was no room for carbon, each piston had to be polished down for clearance, that engine made heat instantly after startup on a very very cold day, talk about the hemi crackle!!! It didn't last long before splitting a liner..lol. we were aware something was gonna happen wish we had camera phones back then
Have you heard of the Neander diesel motorcycle? It is a counter rotating piston bike that is quite fast, but expensive. The Army used to use a KLR style diesel bike.
Seeing motorcycles get love on this channel warms my heart.
Well it's just a car but missing 2 tires.
Car is a steel wagon and bike is a steel horse
@@yakakaka5071 yeah maybe to a filthy CAR PERSON (ew)
@@yakakaka5071 jk love you dad 😘
@@salmonwatertrought2050 lol this comment had me laughing but still bikes are superior
In Germany, there is still a small Motorcycle manufacturer called "Sommer Motorräder" that produces diesel powered bikes that use the engine out of a vibrating plate. The frames are mostly from Royal Enfield, but he is also using selfmade frames.
They even have a website: www.motorradmanufaktur.de/
I just got a KLX300 2023 a few days ago. Would love to see more motorcycle content.
very informative great presentation Rob Sky
Yes! finally motorcycle content.
Need more motorcycle content!
@thx Although I’m a Muslim, this contributes nothing to this conversation.
@@randomamericansoldier8586 Its a bot
i've seen a diesel bike in britain, back in the nineties, build in the late fifties... it had one cylinder an incredibly long stroke, a heavy flywheel, was unbelievably loud and needed a five gear transmission to get going, pretty much like a two wheeled traktor... and it was pulling a tandem trailer with a car wreck on top, which was kind of impressive!
That was probably an Enfield Diesel. They were one pretty common...
Matchless G80 Diesel 650 ccm
You had me at "incredibly long stroke".
I had a G80 Matchless. 500 cc single. My Brother had a 650cc twin A J S ( same company eventually)
A lot of riders convert their to diesel and gets good MPG. They are nice and fuel efficient. No one would buy petrol bikes when gas prices keeps going up.
As I recall years ago there was a company making custom sport bikes that ran on repurposed helicopter turbo shafts, ran on diesel but weren't diesels. As for the answer to what they put in tanks, jp8 aviation kerosene. That's pretty much the standard for all the services except the Navy for basically any vehicle because it'll run in jet aircraft helicopters turbine-powered tanks and diesel engines equally well, as well as everything from generators to cook stoves. Navy uses jp5 which is a different formulation that's safer to use aboard ships.
not a huge motorcycle guy but i learned more about diesel engines in this ep than i have watching any other video. Good job guys.
"The engines will be too heavy" The Rotary power and inline 6 powered motorcycle: has entered the chat.
Rotary engines are pretty light compared to piston engines
@@johannesdatblue4164 Not compared to small 4 cylinder Japanese motors
Check out the weights of the electric motorcycles. Pushing 600 for a streetbike! Dense as fuck
@@Duhnguyening oh yeah, the good thing with electric vehicles is that you can mess around with where you put the Weight and with what you want that weight to go towards (so you can maintain a 50/50 weight distribution and still keep the weight low to make it easier to move around)
Dodges V10 powered "bike" enters the chat
Holy shit Jeremiah is only 20? I'm 23 and I think of him like a smart uncle 🤔
Right? Had to rewind twice cus i didnt believe😂
he said that too in another video but I still cannot believe him T___T
Very surprising, his knowledge and appearance is like that of an uncle to me and I am just 22. Just wow. I usually take things like that as a joke but seeing how the younger generation looks much mature than we did back then, and considering the way they dress, I mean it's not that hard to believe these days...
One of those guys who could be 20 or 40, you don't know
I’m 19 and he looks so much older than I do there’s no way
The US Army is now using some electric bikes. These are light, compact and quiet. Along with many other types of small vehicles and robotic systems that are in development. Including a small 4 wheeled buggy that can transport a whole squad and gear. Able to be transported by medium helicopters. Very suitable for airborne operations. And semi autonomous vehicles able to carry gear. Some smaller vehicles are able to fire support weapons including GPMGs, 40mm grenade launchers or missiles. Suitable for surveillance and defense. Some vehicles having hybrid combustion and electric drives able to operate with very little noise. Quad bikes have been in use for some time. Mainly for special forces. One unusual effort has been an effort to cross a light truck with a light helicopter. Able to fly over very rough ground if needed. It is pretty amazing to see what the modern defence industry does. Many of these systems may not actually see full service but maybe tested on operations. Modern technology is pushing the limits and has significant civilian applications. The whole development, testing, and prototyping is highly developed with computers and advanced tools. Very complex parts can now be manufactured with 3D printing in one piece. Ideal for complex rocket engines as an example. Making them much cheaper and reducing the numbers of parts. New, replacement parts can be quickly printed and replaced. One rocket engine developer is printing a whole rocket structures with very high quality construction. Elon Musk's people are making large, complex car chassis in one cast piece. How is this being used for modern and future bikes?
Electrojunk is not smart. Too many rare earth metals & they come from hostile areas. Batteries are bad too. ICE is the future. Time governments are made to understand that.
KLR-650. The Marine Corps uses them as Combat Courier bikes. Runs on jet fuel, diesel, or Jp8
This reminds me of the Rotary Diesel history, would be cool to have an episode on that
There have been Diesel rotaries, but the whole point of having a Diesel engine is reduced fuel consumption. Rotaries have lower thermal efficiency so they burn more fuel, and that means if you want a Diesel, it will undoubtedly be a reciprocating piston engine.
It's still an interesting concept. I like strange stuff like that
I passed the msf a month ago, more motorcycle content LETS GO
Congratulations. Keep the shiny side up and be safe.
YES! motorcycle content!!!!!
Royal Enfield, a major motorbike manufacturer, made one from 1993 to 2001, the 325cc Taurus, and the Bullet, in production from 1955 to 2002.
I’d there a world outside the US? 😂
There's no way Jeremiah was born in 2001. I refuse to believe it.
maybe 2000
I feel he was born in 1997
Holy shit I know right
So what, he is 19 to 20 years old? He looks 34 tbh. How could he have spent "way too much time and money on bikes losing friends and girlfriends if he is barely old to drive. It's gotta be a joke
Not possible
I really want Kawasaki's KLR diesel bike they made for the military. Specifically the desert paint model, those things are sick
Deimos Phob, I read when the military sells the surplus, they remove the motor.
@@MrTXForester time to steal
They weighed a fucking ton lol, still good fun though..
That's called a Desert Eagle, but it's not 50cc it's 50 CALIBER bruh
@@MrTXForester that sux 👎
I had a drove of a diesel bike 15 years ago, had "Bombardier" as its name, think it was old Royal Enfield copy so going to guess it was an Indian made motorcycle, did ok in outback trials but the import dealership was sketchy as hell and much like a call center it did vanish. Wasnt fast but dear Lord it had a hell of a range which was kind of important for the Australian Outback. Got me to thinking That Russian bike, with the sidecar the Ural would really suit a diesel engine, it drives like one with gas so seems like a good fit, 2 wheel drive, so low torque going to be awesome off road and sidecar set up allows for a beefer weight of the engine.
My friend had one. Modified with general purpose motor for pulling metal detector coil!
"I love cars, but I REALLY love motorcycles!" Hells the yes!
Yes finally something about bikes, even though I know this is a car channel 😂
Donut Should make a second channel for motorcycles or just do more motorcycle stuff
bikes are for people with no dignity
I though this was a channel about doughnuts 🍩
All the better
@@saladwithsalad cars are for people who are scared of speed. Lose the cage, feel the wind on your chest!
What about the Royal Enfield diesel? Low rpm does not change engine wear especially on a long stroke engine. It's more to do with piston speed which can be very high on a long stroke engine but it will give great torque.
I believe i saw a Track T-800CDI here in the netherlands a few weeks ago, it was getting diesel at a gas station and I said to my dad: “what the heck? dad that thing’s getting diesel look!” we were so confused but as it drove away we could clearly hear the Diesel engine on it lol. So awesome
Wreed hoor.
Even Royal Enfield diesels can run in kerosene and even vegetable oil with minor tweaks 🔥😂
Dunno about that motor bit I know folks running used veggie oil in their turbo diesel trucks, claims of better mileage result but also warnings about seemingly premature injector failure and pitting.
Precisely RE mass
“Whatever it is they put inside tanks” you already named it. Diesel or JP8.
Sadly I was hoping you could put anything like vegetable oil in tanks but ig not
@@junjin8763 you can make combustible bio diesel via a conversion/water washing method to rid the oil of glycerin.
@@junjin8763 you can put pure vegetable oil in Diesel engines, but only under the right circumstances
Great episode - Thank you Berimigh.
In India RE manufactured a diesel variant called Taurus (I guess), discontinued long back. But some people still have them, they maintain them very well.... Performance output is low, but it can go slow in higher gears (I guess, torque is good). But that's not the amazing part... Whatever we see now is older than me (35) and it still gives a whooping fuel economy of 60-70km/Ltr... Here, due to fuel prices, that matters a lot...