Woke Cambridge Students HATE Historian's FACTS - Rafe Heydel-Mankoo
2023 ж. 11 Нау.
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Cambridge University students at the Cambridge Union didn't like hearing historian and broadcaster Rafe Heydel-Mankoo argue that Britain should not pay reparations for slavery & colonialism. Well-established facts about the British Empire, Asia and Africa, which were well known to earlier generations of students, seem to be completely new to many of them -- and some do not want to hear or believe anything that contradicts the narrative they've been taught.
Cambridge Union motion for debate: "The House Should Pay Reparations". Held at Cambridge University in 2022.
I'm British. I want reparations from Scandinavia and Italy for the Viking and the Roman invasions of Britain.
I’m Finn and want reparations from the swedes, russians, danes and Baltic pirates.
@@speggeri90 and about russia we have still people alive who deserve reparations from Russia, and it's not been even 100 years yet from Paris peace treaty where Finland was made to give up 2nd largest city at that time. not to mention what happened to Ingrian finns.
@@speggeri90then come and get it girlyman, we vikings will be waiting..
I want reparations from the ancient animals that preyed on my ancestors.
Im sending you a check right now
Imagine being at an educational establishment and getting angry when someone actually teaches you something
don't know what it is they do there, but it isn't anything to do with education
@@musicjunk8266 brainwashing primarily, they don't teach critical thinking skills any longer
They're there only for the title, they couldn't care less about actual learning. That's what nepotism and admission based on "diversity" does to an institution. It will result in total loss of integrity.
The perpetually offended woke crowd do not use LOGIC... their fee fees are ruling their head
It's Cambridge - what do you expect? It's not exactly the best university in the country, is it? Imagine what the yobs who go to Manchester, or Lincoln are like! Imagine those who don't go to university at all! 🥴
Those kids laughing in the background do not deserve to be at that institution. Amazing argument.
You are totally correct. 11:56 The young, not so adult acting students, would benefit more from listening, not chatting amongst themselves.
These people aren’t listening, they’re just waiting for their turn to talk.
Exactly, just look at the kid behind him raise his hand over and over, They invited that man to speak there, but seemed to have no interest whatsoever in listening or hearing his words. 🙄
@@toter-drachethat's because politics with the youth have become a cult and one thing about a cult is you can't tolerate contradictory arguments. Marxism has slithered it's way into every part of education in white countries and is indoctrinating the young and weak minded people to be it's foot soldiers.
Yeah, they want to get likes on Instagram. That's all all these childish brains care about nowadays.
Why are so many students so disrespectful? Parents….are you watching your brats here?
Because he is not saying what they want to hear. Ignoramus's
Because they don't want to hear facts; facts hurt their all important 'feelings'.
No, they're brainwashed by the education system. So much, to the point that other viewpoints are not allowed.
It's a universal thing and with teenage kids myself, who are equally disrespectful. I am adamant it is the lack of corporal punishment. Being in the generation that saw the end of the cane and strap in school, I have watched the deterioration of society since that time.
I agree with Queen B, it's to do with some parents not getting a grip on their kids.
That ghastly rude girl behind deserves to be ignored herself. Parents - you did a crap job with these weak, insipid characters
Harsh but fair !
If you mean the blighter in the orange top, I think it's actually a boy - though you can never tell these days. The same nuisance kept his hand up for most of the time Calvin Robinson was speaking in the same debate (it's on KZhead somewhere). Calvin eventually gave way and he (the blighter in orange) muttered something about being under privileged. Calvin asked sternly, "In what way are you under privileged? You attend one of the most elite universities in the world, with the opportunity of getting an education second to none. How does that amount to being under privileged?" - Probably not an exact rendition, but that was the gist of Calvin's response. At all events, it seemed to shut him/her/it up.
@@tocaat2410 Chinese kid is a male.
@@BlookbugIVits 2023 , who knows ?
the one with a fupa? Si muy bein
This learned gentleman knows his history, a subject that is apparently not taught anymore. Those rude “students” in the audience evidently made to Cambridge on their daddy’s wealth, not because of merit or maturity. I love that their “intelligence and maturity” has been preserved forever in this video.
Well, he is objectively wrong when he says the British were the first empire to abolish slavery. Hati was the first. Second: the claim that had colonialism never happened things would have been worse, is absurd. Colonialism is by its nature extracting resources, and traditional land transfers to colonials persists to this day. So no. The rest is whataboutism.
This "learned" knows a very colored, one sided, and biased version of history. Suggesting British empire was the driver of good things in the world is whitewashing and glossing over all the horrible things they did, intentionally.
Haiti wasn't an empire
They need to go track down the tribal kings of Africa and get their reparations from them 90% of the slaves we're bought for a box of beads and trinkets
@@everywherecat9824 Hati wasn't an empire. Second : We'll never know, it'll always be a what if question and they'll be ways to justify both opinions. Personally I agree with him though, he did come out with some hard statistics on how well ex-British colonies are doing compared to others. Also they may have extracted resources but they brought infrastructure, law & order, democracy, technology, language and education. We may have pushed our way of being on them, but it had positive effects in the long run.
The immaturity of these Cambridge students is embarrassing especially the rude young woman behind
I agree. When this began i noticed a cell phone in action and at 8:13 the wall crowd they couldn't care less about the topic at hand.
She was so annoying and ignorant.
no it isnt half of what this liar said is false. he taked about india and said india benefitted from the british when in reality the british commited some of the worst attrocities of all time in india. they destroyed an entire civilisation.india constituted to 30% of world gdp in1700 and the british bought it down to 2%. they caused at least 30 famines in 150 years killing nearly 200 million people. the avg life expectancy dropped to 27 years during british raj. they stole 45 trillion dollars and compelety destroyed indian economy by making very unfair laws at gun point. the literacy rate when they left was 7 percent and they divided the country into 2 on the basis of relegion which would result in 100s of million people getting diplaced and result into further 10 million deaths. it boils my blood to hear know that this is what they teach you in britian. hiding and atrocity is an atrocety itself. i do not as for reperations, all i ask is to at least admit what they did bcs it seems like they have manged to cover up their crimes at least in their own country.
@@sahilbishnoi8944 You unfortunately are speaking from prejudice and ignorance, and are easily fooled by weak arguments, unable to give proper context to numbers. India went from 30% of world GDP to 2% not because the GDP of the subcontinent decreased, but because of industrialization in Europe: Before industrialization, GDP was narrowly linked to population size, but the GDP of newly industrial powers skyrocketted. Then you speak of "unfair laws at gun point", which is true, this is what all non democratic states do BTW, and the entire historey of India prior colonization. Now are you questioning that the british have not immensely improved equality among indians, and between men and women? Are you questioning the fact that burning widows alive has been stopped by the british? etc... And your argument about indian population has been in advance countered in the video. The population of India has surged since colonization; as for famines, they were not a rare event on the subcontinent. A simple lookl at the demographic of colonized lands tells all there needs to be said of the question of the benefits of colonization, population surge implies higher life expectancy, implying in turn better life. The main issue with people like you is that you are guilty of presentism. You see events from past century out of context, incapable of looking at the realistic alternatives, and worse, think like a 21th century person at the issues of the time.
Privileged students at an educational institution laughing and smirking at someone actually teaching them facts. Thank you Rafe.
Are you referring to the one girl in the stripey jumper who was always in shot.
and the boy beside her.@@fritzhenning1
@@fritzhenning1and the sulky one in blue on Rafe’s left
Entitled , nepotistic feeble minds
@@raymondrinehart5957they should be. The man is ten times as intelligent as they’ll ever be!
I'm 1/4 Jamaican, huge close Jamaican family(my mum is half Jamaican). My ancestors were kidnapped in Africa by tribes in Africa, sold to outsiders, who paid and brought them to Jamaica, they at some points were probably treated badly. But, they now have their own country, that is probably nicer than the countries they originated in. So i'm okay with it, because Jamaica and Jamaicans are awesome. I don't need reparations, the country of Jamaica is enough.
Thank you 🙏 ❤
The real pain for me here is that the narrative has finally been tainted by the illogical claims that the West African indigenes themselves provided their own people to the British, as slaves. The history the spoke from is a total hogwash. The Africans were in perpetual fear of the colonial masters, and whatever they wanted, they got. They were for the most part frightened about the type of arms in their possession. The youngmen, that did those raids with the British of Communities were slaves were taken, where supervised and forced to take part in it. These strenuous attempts to evade responsibility, by this trending specie of blame game cannot work.
The kids stopped listening after the first statement.
Hes not a tik toker or speaking in 10 second bursts with a helium voice, why would they? stupid cant understand nothing but stupid.
No they did not stop listening. Perhaps you imagined that one could stand leaning on their eardrums? Maybe you!
They don't actually think. They fit anything they hear to fit their brainwashing. I can't find anyone who knows tge big role Islamic North Africa played in tge slave trade, raiding sub Saharan villages for black people to sell and enslaving hundredsof 1000s of Europeans. Etc. History offends ideologies, including British and Anerican students. They are too woke to wake. Too many of their Professors are virtue signaling Marxists
The deliberate ignorance of university students is beyond belief.
“War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. History is Bunk.” 1984 was supposed to be a cautionary tale. The woke/left-wing nutters are using as an instruction manual.
They would never do this in Oxford 😂
They hate truth and FACTS.
@@darrenjones1413 Give it time.
Sad to say, the more education you have today, the more deliberately ignorant you become.
Well looking at the students inattention and rude behaviour, my opinion of Cambridge is dimished. I had thought it was somewhat prestigious!
@Jon Gunson most of them seem like future Labour MP's to me, given their disapproval of facts that do not suit their agenda.
@Jon Gunson one might say that oneself cannot try harder when he is only displaying the truth.
I work with these folks sometimes. You are spot on.
if you think that diminished it go look up the quality of the work of their new "youngest black professor ever" jason arday. it's a joke.
Yea these spoilt kids should go back to kindergarten
They’re not even listening.
How ignorant that ginger girl and her friend are, talking and using phone throughout his speech, they just do not wish to hear the truths.
Because they can't handle the truth
Cambridge proves once again that education and intelligence are two different things.
Very well put :)
Further, there is a difference between education and indoctrination.
Never had there been a truer statement
And Cambridge' students don't have either of those....
This is what happens when you give professors tenure
Seeing these students makes it obvious why the world is in such a mess.
What? They were raised by today's adults to have this attitude. It is the continual forcing down our throats since WWII of the idea that mature adults do not know anything important, and moreover cannot live with, adjust to, and even bring about change that has been the problem. A person rarely knows what is important until about age 60, so expect respect elders!
@@simonestreeter1518wrong. Most were raised on the internet.
@@simonestreeter1518 Most people would argue that intelligence reaches its peak at around the same time as physical speed - round about the age of twenty-two. It becomes increasingly difficult to learn new things after that. Using language as an example, on top of English - my mother tongue - I was able to pick up French (one did in those days); Italian (from exposure to classical music); some German (on family holidays to Switzerland, the Rhine etc.), Spanish (because it’s easy), Latin and Classical Greek (at school, because they were hard 🫣). So that’s err… (lost count a bit) by age of twenty, in my case, when I graduated. I still ATTEMPT to learn new languages but it’s a hopeless task, I’m afraid. Now I’m sixty, it’s useful only to help exercise a shrinking brain. My sister has fifteen languages I think. I’ll never catch up. It’s impossible, unfortunately. She had at least twelve before she was thirty. Likewise music, my chief passion. I still try to fit in four hours or so piano practise per day. But I don’t get any better. I just stop myself from getting worse, more quickly. Thus, sad to say, if you had learned little before you were sixty - as you claim - it’s too late now, really. But you should still TRY to learn new things because you can - albeit at a much-reduced rate. Best wishes
Hmmm. The world is always thought by the elderly, like us, to be in decline. The UK is currently f*ck*d, that’s true. But this is the exception, merely due to this Brexidiocy nonsense and the monstrous creatures which it has allowed to escape from under various flat rocks. The young people will sort us out. Throughout history, they always have, The majority of Spitfire pilots were very, very young. They saved their elders from the Nazis. Today’s young will be similarly heroic, I’m sure. Best wishes
@@robertcottam8824 I'm sorry for your frustration, truly, as we share two passions: music and languages. However, at 59, I have finally become fluent in everyday French (level B2) and am gaining proficiency and singing better than ever though I was professionally trained for four years. I also am not speaking of these kinds of acquired knowledge, I am speaking more of wisdom, e.g., the ability to understand other people, oneself, to choose more satisfying values, to achieve mental and emotional independence, to carry myself effectively in the world. These things have greatly increased for me since age 50.
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” ― George Orwell
So true. Students are taught 'what' to think and believe now and not 'how' to think.
Another way of looking at this quote; with perhaps some empathy and self-awareness, would be to consider it from the perspective of the descendants of peoples stolen from their homelands, robbed of their names, robbed of knowledge of their tribes and original family lineage, culture and religion. A people taught a falsified "Christian" religion, that for example, removed elements that wrote of Moses and the Israelites escape from slavery, so as not to encourage dissent. Predicated on the propaganda of a blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus. As a side note; George Orwell's descendants were recipients of reparation payment as recompense for their loss of human property. A total sum, paid by the British taxpayers, not fully repaid until 2015
@@JimmyDreadNDMS No one has ever seen a blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus. He was Jewish. All of the many pictures never show Him as being white, nor black. Palestinians have not been robbed of homelands, names, etc...they have given up everything to support Hamas, etc...They do NOT want peace, land, or honor. It really took a long time for the final payment to be made. Thanks for sharing the info.
@@JimmyDreadNDMS People tend to mix though, most of us aren't purely of any tribe or ethnicity. And as said, had they not been "stolen" from their homelands, they would've lived under objectively worse conditions today. I doubt most modern people even know that much about their great-great-great-grandparents or beyond. I personally never really learned much even about my grandparents, and I have no idea what their parents were like. But that didn't stop me from developing my own identity. I think my main problem with this type of thinking is that it boils down to an attempt to group yourself with other people based on superficial commonalities that ultimately don't really define us as individuals. I feel like people should develop their identity via trial and error, by learning how they themselves react to organic real life experiences and how their own reactions differ from those of others. This seems much more useful to me than trying to study how your ancestors lived and what they believed in, given that today's world is so different from what it was a century ago, and given that we know so much more about the world now.
@@VVayVVard on your point regarding mixing etc; I do agree. However, I do find it a bit odd for you to use that as the opening 'leg' with which to build the metaphorical table of your argument; considering this particular 'historian', Rafe Heydel-Mankoo, makes at least a good portion of his living as an oxymoronic example of his own existence. Decrying the failure of multiculturalism and ethnic mixing, while affecting the pomp of an eccentric English aristocrat. Sort of like if all the worst bits of Priti Patel, Suella Braverman and Jacob Rees-Mogg were genetically spliced together... The members of the African diaspora who were enslaved, were stolen from their homelands. That is not under dispute. The use of quotation marks to undermine the veracity of that fact is akin to being a holocaust denier. Do no persist in doing this. It is not an objective fact that remaining in their homelands and resisting European intervention (invasion) would have resulted in worse living conditions today. In an independent comment above, I list but a few examples of great achievements across the continent of Africa; to negate Rafe's insinuations and Eurocentric common perceptions. Even to this modern age, NGOs, working hand in hand with Nestlé visited various regions in the 70's, 80's and earlier, encouraging uptake of their branded baby formula, as superior to mother's milk. Due the propaganda of "West knows best" many babies died due to inadequate infrastructure for clean drinking water. Another such example is the so called "Angel of Death" in Uganda. A wealthy European American with barely a nursing qualification, who took it upon herself to travel to Uganda, under the guise of altruistic benevolent medical care. 100s of babies died because she didn't know her rectum from her forearm synovial joint. Underdevelopment and rampant theft of art, culture and resources; all while encouraging, via clandestine means, the displacement of governments focused on progressing African interests; from the toppling of Gadaffi, all the way back to the creation of political unions via intermarriage between ruling tribes and slave traders and in between with governmental coups, embezzlers and international fallout from US/UK created militant groups such as Al Queda funding civil war via brutality to gain blood diamonds. Similar to Oliver North and Ron Reagan's Nicaraguan Contra's funnelling cocaine into America. Western intervention is rotten. It's definitely subjective, not objective to say life would be worse with out it. But at the current circumstances, things are akin to burning down an African's house, stealing the natural resources in his garden; building him a corrugated iron shack, then telling the citizens of your country, and the rest of the world how kind you are for providing aid, and how lazy the African is for needing it. All while still owing him several thousand/millions/billions of pounds. I won't say there have been no benefits from colonialism etc. However, my view is these, and more, could have been achieved without European hindrance. In regards to identity; your personal, anecdotal experience is totally valid, I won't dispute that. I do find it strange you've used this quote from George Orwell, debating who it's most applicable to, is the most appropriate forum, but to each their own. I totally agree with you that one must find, within, and also build for oneself, their own identity. Not reliant on peers or blind nationalism, nor the long dead traditions of one's ancestors. Can you really ignore the rampant market growth of DNA tracing, websites like Ancestory.com and huge viewership of TV programs like "Who Do You Think You Are?", which trace family past history, and others, which reconnect adopted people, and others, who for whatever reason, have major obstacles in the way for them to trace even their recent history and relatives. I'm glad for you that your chose disregard for your familial past works; many, many others believe in the adage that "those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it". It's especially frustrating, when someone in your position talks of how you've been fine and dandy taking no interest in looking to your grandparents, or even beyond. That is not a luxury of choice afforded to all; many of whom had that choice forcibly snatched from them in traumatic circumstances.
As a Viking I demand reparations from those who have been slandering my peaceful ancestors for centuries
I'm from Dublin Ireland, as a viking you owe me reparations! ,,,gimme money!
Crushing arguments. Well researched and knowledgeable speaker. Well done.
The fact that these kids are not even willing to listen says enough...
their niave toffee nosed southerners... what do you expect lmao when youve had the life of riley all paid for by your parents, it only breeds kids like these..
Akin to a mob on the loose!
Idealiogical subversion complete. Yuri Bezminov, 1983.
Their dads will give them jobs. They don’t live in the real world
This is how communism works. Teach the next generation nothing and they will see facts as lies.
He should have stopped his speech and asked these rude, disrespectful kids to put their phones down or get out. This man is amazing and these kids could have learned some truth if they had only listened to what he said. 👏👏 Well done Rafe.
Very few of those ignoramuses have had to struggle for anything in their lives, and simply indulge themselves with virtuous theories. They have had the luxury of a continuous and free education and now find themselves in one of the world's best universities where they arrogantly try to undermine the considered and educated thoughts of someone with infinitely more experience and knowledge than themselves. They are an embarrassment.
Spoilt brats
@@whiteonggoy7009 sure are
They don't WANT the truth. It robs them of their place in the world and of the power they have acting as champions of the oppressed. The truth, would make them insignificant and set them back on a level playing field without pulpits to stand above the crowds. It's about power. It's about ego. It's about having a purpose that they feel gives them the right to set social politics and gives them a fake moral authority to rule. AND that elevated position they believe, means they don't have to adhere to any rules, even their own, in order to fix the problems and inequality they believe in. It's nice to be the king and not be held to any standards. Not even your own. Very few people would ever give that up.
Rafe is a great guy, very intelligent and articulate! The kids are stupid brats. 😏
These kids have no respect.
Well said Sir. Todays woke students really haven't got a clue.
I won't go to far into the past and cite your parents about students or young peoples rudnes in the public. I will just cite the much nearer past, the brexetiers: "You have no clue". Well they have been certainly proved wrong.
What makes you more knowledgeable then them? To recite CNN and state gdp's from tax heavens of the rich?
Such students are entirely unworthy to attend such a {once} prestigious university.
Never let truth, logic and historical fact get in the way of an opportunity for a woke tantrum.
Well, said mate!
lalalalal I am not listening lalalalaa
What tantrum? I see some young people fact checking a polemic in real time. You might never have thought to question what a middle aged man in a dinner suit says, but speaking as a middle aged man who wears a dinner suit from time to time I'm glad to see the next generation checking to see if they're being lied to. It's better than servility for servility's sake
@@guywilletts2804 Total disrespect from their dress to their lack of attentiveness. More people were there to comment than listen. THEY were the experts, he was there to listen to them! Cambridge has been turned on its ear: The patients are running the asylum. But one quick look from the start shows few took this lecture seriously. Facts RARELY matter more with this class than the political "Flavor of the Day".
@@guywilletts2804 BTW: He was 100% historically accurate. 100%. Prove me wrong. YOU CAN'T. FACTS MATTER.
Can't believe how rude those students are behind him, it's almost primary school levels of attention not University.
Because their mentality is equal to elementary shool children
Exactly how my H.S was. I always wondered when they would grow up. Guess they never do
Exactly! How rude how smug how entitled those students who were sat behind not the behaviour I would expect from Cambridge University students . My expectations are that in a democratic debate you have the good manners to listen then make your argument/ reply rather than acting like smug school children it was very rude and immature.
I am not shitting you, I was asking myself why they had someone come in and speak with such sophisication to a bunch of teens. Well joke's on me, these are supposed to be adults!?!?
It was not a lecture. I agree with everything the speaker said, but his refusal to accept questions and comments, especially from the gentleman behind him, who politely raised his hand several times, was an act of intellectual cowardice.
"Not just yet, thank you so much." I like this guy.
Can't believe I just found out about Rafe. The man is a titan juggernaut that strolls calmly through the clutching claws and catchpoles of clueless cowards.
Well said ❤
What
Nice alliteration.
The entire notion of confiscating money from people who never owned slaves (and, in most cases, whose ancestors never owned slaves) to hand it over to people who were never slaves is so utterly absurd that it defies description.
Wealth begets more wealth which begets more wealth... Over years, Land, shares, diversified wealth... History of wealth source dissapears Systemic racism + Generational wealth = Reparations 3:42
Or who even had ancestors who were slaves.
@@Nipponing Or even worse, their people sold their people into slavery.
can we take from the queen or king?
All those that are slaves, please raise your hands. Right. None here. Carry on.
Extremely worrying that these students are our future.
University is nothing more than indoctrination, these are the same minds that have led us into a time where we genuinely have to ask for the definition of a woman😹 they’re all stupid woke commies and their inability to discern fact from fiction is exactly why a revolution is needed in all western countries by true patriots.
Europa the last battle is a documentary that covers the true extent of the lies we have been fed
Dont worry, those individuals will be bunch of nobodies, their studies are pointless and useless, they just want an A4 piece of paper with Cambridge stamp on it, so they can be two positions higher in the corporation they will feed their soul to.
I sent my children to a brainwashing factory. “Im worried about these future leaders. “ these kids are on there phones. Because they are too smart
I thought th emajority were perfectly polite, some lost interst as would happen with any group of young people.
Excellent speech 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Unfortunately, as usual, there are plenty of arrogant people in the audience who dislike solid facts and will throw a tantrum. I'm appalled at young people's behaviour these days.
Many older people act no different. Some people's egos are too bug to handle the lashing.
I cannot believe how rude those students are. Arrogance and ignorance all rolled up in an intolerable little package.
What rude little oiks sitting there snickering and playing on their phones nor did they clap. If they had listened they would have learnt something. Great talk Rafe.
God save us from these people in the future.
These "Children" are why better birth control should be used, a disgrace!.
They don't and won't accept the truth
The ginger minger
Learn English and try again.
No one is listening but they all cant wait to have a tantrum. Absolutel embarassment.
Did i watched another Video? In the Video i saw he spoke in a calm environment and gets applaus in the end.
Yes Roland ... que the toys flying out of prams. 😊🇦🇺
Children do not want to listen to the truth today. They want to develop their own truths. Which are not real.
@@MikeHunt-is5mxforreal, wtf is that? people my age are actually hellbent on ignorance and self importance. everything’s performative, they have no idea how to actually stick up for themselves because they don’t even know what they believe lol
Their minds have been corrupted by bad teaching or indoctrination and social media.
Thank you Rafe for your amazing delivery of facts....
Every one of those kids should be expelled.
Imagine getting upset because the facts don't reinforce your beliefs. It's nursery school behaviour 😒
It's also the basis of ancient and modern Christian intolerance.
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 All religions are intolerant, in some form or another. Some religions more than others...
@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 Christian "intolerance" is a grand joke from you. Do share what is the Islamic version of "intolerance"? Genocide of unbelievers sound about right for you?
@1AnononA1 NoooOOOOooo!!! You're gonna ruuUUUUUIIIIIiiiiiiin iiiiiiit... 😭
@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244Yeah, because Jews and Muslims are sooo tolerant. You gits are blind.
Applause. Facts are facts. Ignorance is ignorance. Brilliant, factual speech.
Bullshit.
These kids are part of a generation that is too thoroughly in Doctrine 8ted to even think about what an opposing viewpoint looks or sounds like. Look at all their confused faces…it like they literally don’t understand what is going on; like they are looking around for their instructors to step in and save them from something.
Couldn't agree more.
@@reven-docta79 They are being told their gods do not exist and its uncomfortable.
@@basedmathh 😂I concur 👍
They just don’t like the truth , they just don’t like the facts.
I always thought that Cambridge was a prestigious university and that the young people learn real stuff there, like history and other things. Not WOKE crap!!
The reactions of those students is classic lesson in human phycology. Truth, facts and logic are a rude, awkward and uncomfortable intrusion into their emotion driven, virtue signaling bubble.
Exactly. They programmed robots. Incapapable of independent thought.
I'm surprised most of them didn't flee to their "Safe Space" in tears.
I bet if you told each of them, for the next 30 years 1/4 of their earnings were going to reparations they would sit up and take notice to that which he said.
All this subterfuge is globalist misdirection on what they're doing.
They're too young. I once got a 10 cent raise and I was excited about it because I had zero expenses. 20 years later I have a lot of expenses and a family. When you're young and you're not in control of your own finances IE college students you can be mentally free with your money and give it away here and give it away there. Once you realize your body is breaking down and you can't work as hard as you did in your youth for a little money then you start to realize how important it is to let people keep the money that they earn.
There is nothing more insufferable than a self-righteous, all-knowing, young person.
"Its a shame that youth is wasted on the youth"
@@smithical100 If you are to qoute George Bernard Shaw correctly 'Youth is wasted on the young'
They have a small handful of knowledge and think they are well armed.
they lack the life experience to have been corrected in the past. as we get older we will many times have experienced a change of opinions, be it because our morals and values changed or because we found facts that proved our previous stance wrong. young people have never had this happen to them so they have no reason to believe what they think is right could ever be wrong, it has never happened to them after all. they arent challenged in life either, teachers are overwhelmingly left leaning, universities are overwhelmingly left leaning, etc. they go through life with zero challenges so they become self righteous little brats.
Know it all more like know bugger all😂
They aren't even listening.
I grieve for the future if this is the standard of student understanding and behaviour in top British educational establishments today. Shame on them and their parents.
The immaturity of these giggly little kindergarteners is frightening. If these are the next leaders, we are truly screwed
I don't think the human race will last that long
They are the result of leftie education..indoctrination. They will graduate and enter the world with their woke thinking in all positions of lower ,influence,and authority its already happening..look around you and find them everywhere you look.
You do realise that you were young and immature once don’t you? These kids are there to learn. Children and young people see issues as black and white until they are educated to the fact that life is one big grey area.
Those kids will learn nothing while they are talking, giggling and playing on their phones and should be ashamed when their are others who are probabaly more intelligent and grasp the opportunity to be there with both hands and achive far more. I bet if you asked them after what thekey points were they wouldn't have a clue.@@kates1974
@@kates1974 I was never that immature. And also, we can call them 'kids' all we want, and they act as such, but they are all adults, unless there is some genius 13 year old currently matriculating at Cambridge, they are all 18 or older, i.e. adults!
Isn't it sad that some of those young people behind him do not want to hear any alternative narrative other than their own? And these are university students who should know that you need to hear and investigate alternative viewpoints in order to make valid decisions. But I have been very suspicious of universities teaching free thinking as opposed to their own narrative for a long time.
You got all that from facial expressions?
@@WherEmEweeD Perhaps Diana '...got all that...' from the contemptuous disrespect shown to a guest speaker!
@@Peter-oe2fe well said
The Cambridge Dictionary in 2023 changed its definition of 'woman' to include mentally ill men.😡
We have allowed them to be groomed by left wing radicals since they started attending school.
I’m American so when I here these arguments all I hear is….. is the British accent sounds so proper and educated 😂. I love to hear British people talk and argue. Makes me wish I had that accent lol. Love you guys.
We don't all talk like that in the UK fella. There are many different regional and local accents in Britain, far removed from how Rafe speaks. Rafe has a very educated, what we would call 'posh' accent. There is no such thing as a "British' accent. Sorry to disappoint you!
I truly wish he had turned around and told those lil brats to ‘shut up, you might learn something’. These are actually Cambridge students? What a great fall CU has taken. And for the Asian dude, keep your friggen hand dow and LISTEN, YOU DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING.
Looking at those students behind Rafe reinforces the fact that these universities are no longer a place of critical thinking. Great speech Rafe, articulate and accurate. Well done.
All public funding needs to be stopped
Agree. Those sat behind are typical of those capable of learning what is required in order to pass A levels to a high standard, whilst not opening their minds to the nuances of life itself.
A few of them seem to be listening. I can only hope the rest of them understand when, if ever, they grow up.
Check out the two black students, the male was pissed and the woman was shocked he was allowed to say the things he did.
Schools & "Universities" no longer teach people HOW to think, they teach people WHAT to think. Not EDUCATION but instead INDOCTRINATION
Frankly, I'm appalled at the students in the audience. Some turned up in what appeared to be their pajamas, talked constantly throughout the presentation, fiddled on their phones, made faces all throughout the speech, and actively tried to interrupt. It was clear that they weren't engaging with the argument or the subject matter. I remember a time not all that long ago where children younger than the ones in the audience would be promptly disciplined for displaying such behaviour. It wasn't passionate behaviour, it wasn't active engagement, it wasn't enthusiasm, it was plain rudeness. I wouldn't expect such behaviour at a high school debate, let alone one at Cambridge.
These students have no respect for what was being said or for the speaker. The only thing they were concerned about was their own point of view and getting it out there. You notice that as soon as he mentioned Europeans being slaves, the two black students behind him rolled their eyes and laughed. Clearly, all these students need to learn REAL history. The slave trade was the first international trade, slave buying and selling has gone on since humans have existed.
At least they weren't shouting him down like they would on an American campus.
a generation of irresponsible twats that have zero critical thinking skills, zero self respect and so little understanding of history that they will turn on their own.
@@judyhenderson1629 If you look more closely she rolls her eyes at something the guy next to her said not at the speech
Well said
I want reparations from Italians for my Briton ancestors being enslaved.
Very well voiced argument. Yes we all feel shame over slavery but the rest has already been said during this speech. Very balanced and fair. What’s done is done and we must focus on the now
You don’t change history, you learn from it
Well said
I am going to have to remember this quote.
Try reading Liberty Versus the Tyranny of Socialism. By Walter E. Williams.
Agreed. By the way, Toutube has ghosted my comments. No idea why.
Of course you can change history you fool it's easy. That's what people in power do all the time.
The fact that these people are using their phones during his speech is deplorable. Such bad manners seem to be acceptable today but it is ignorance in the extreme.
And it's not just kids who do that.
They may be using their phones to take notes and upload them to cloud storage. I do this and have to explain that I'm not being rude.
@KingCrab85 Oh, you mean those carbon sticks that old people use 🤪
@@KevinRodgersGB Which will actually make you remember things better, because you write down what's important.
@fransbuijs808 Yes, both will aid memory
Rafe is the man and I pray for even half his genius, impossible however, he’s earned his collegiate stripes
God bless this man
I’m impressed that the students let him speak. Here in America if students even think you’ll say something in opposition to what they want to believe, they will drown out the speaker with shouting and tantruming.
You are correct.
Depends on the school. U Chicago or Fordham wouldn't give the speaker a hard time, but try that in UC Berkeley, they'd probably shout at him, chant mindless slogans, and if that didn't work, throw stuff at him as if they were toddlers or something. The students would get a slap on the wrist at worst and the department which signed off on inviting him would apologize to the violent students for it, thus reinforcing the bad behavior.
es you arte right , they have also carried the bad habit into American Politics and into the FBI and CIA where lying under oath also seems to be tolerated. and bearing false witness a part of at least Democratic Party policy.
What you think how many years left for the US to collapse?
Behaviour like that in a university ought to be grounds for suspension or expulsion. A university should be a safe space for IDEAS, not for feelings.
I am so impressed with Mr. Heydel-Mankoo. He is a brilliant man : clever, intelligent, well informed and extremely articulate with a great sense of humour. These ignorant, unsophisticated children would do well to listen this gentleman and LEARN something. He was, sadly, "casting pearls before swine".
You can see how patriotic these privileged University students are, how they love Britain. They don’t have a clue what’s been before them and will be blind in the future to what they will have been party to.
The instructors at these institution have a different less reasoned opinion. Mr. Heydel-Mankoo could never teach the "education/indoctrination system" would not allow him to teach. There is still grinding poverty there right in Britain. Capitalism has failed come to fruition, instead we have economic feudalism masquerading and capitalism. How to rectify that is what they should be looking to do. You cannot have righteous indignation and clutch your placard though. You have to think. A much harder thing. A lot of powerful people are seeing that you do not solve that problem.
Having gone to university myself I have vowed not to attach any intrinsic value to university degrees in the social domain anymore. These are not people who seek truth. These are people who seek arguments to support their preestablished truths.
Exactly
They seek a paper to show their superiority to people who actually live their lives and have experience and knowledge of reality.
The most alarming thing is some of the audience will become our future leaders in politics and business.
Those kids in that room really think they know about the world yet have never experienced it outside the comfort of their parents wallets.
Correct, which is why I blame parents for the state of the world. Theyre Lazy, careless and irresponsible so it’s no surprise they’ve produced children that are the same
Theyre probably trying to fact check him so they can try to “gotcha” him and go viral on their tik toks
@@LibertarianLatinaI'm a parent and my 18 year son, who knows he is a man and has a female girlfriend, doesn't trust government, the media and despises all woke agendas. He knows the republicans are the flip side of the coin from the democrats. Same silver shekel. He once even offered fruit to furries at school to replenish their fruitness. He believes in God but knows that religions are control systems and quackery at best. He was taught the golden rule is the basis of all morality. He knows that ninety nine point nine percent of all wars are to make somebody rich and have nothing to do with protecting anybody. I also taught him not to believe a statement by myself or anybody else, but to investigate it and think about it himself. To use his God given intellect and moral compass to determine what is right and best. So don't blame all parents, just the ones who keep their mouth shut. Or agree with the establishment. Now, being that I am not a slave owner, what he chooses to do with the teachings I gave him are entirely up to him. If you ever become a parent or if you are, you will know or should understand this someday. Any child that is a clone of their parent never really became an individual. The best we can do as parents is to teach them to think for themselves. A well known fact is the preacher's daughter is often a complete whore.
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It's true of most modern children... Few if any ever had a part time job in recent decades. Very few walked to school in all weather, or lacking instant communications ever had to solve a genuine life or death problem...
I am an African and from one of the minority tribes. I 💯 % agree with your analysis on slavery and colonialism (Speech).
Facts are facts, your agreement or belief is irrelevant even if you're from Saturn or the Quanta Sea.
You are not a Minority , your tribe might be but your Race Group in Not a Minority another lie pushed by the Woke Libtards. Black's , Indians , Chinese , Muslims are the 4 Major Majority Non White Race groups , you all possess your own home lands , that put your Race , Cultures , Values first in no way of form are you a Minority , your Non White Race groups are invading the only home lands Whites have left , and then using the lie of being a Minority. Yes well it might be true at that time in a white country you a minority , the real monster lies in wait , because Whites don't have homogeneous country''s any more while you Non Whites do. Non Whites will out breed Whites in a White country and wipe the Whites out. But ALL the mention above Non Whites race groups will still retain their Country's a 1000 years from now , because you don't sacrifice your Country , Race , Culture , Values for other Non Whites FACT. but you all expect Whites to destroy everything of theirs for Non White gain in a White Country. White people should come first in a White Country not Non Whites it's White Race , Culture , Values , History and if you Non White and can't respect this , then WHY ? are you wanting to live in a White Country.
Nice comment
If being a slave is the best way to help your children, please don't breed!
An African banned Jeff Stevens 😂 Very African name indeed 😂 So many white ppl larping as other races online LOL
He’s so right 💯🇫🇷✌️
We want to change the situation. Let men like this be our example.
Brilliant... As a black Canadian of West a Indian descent, I could NOT agree more! Furthermore, does ANYONE think that once reparations were handed out, that black people will admit that the debt is paid and that there would be an end to all this nonsense? I fear that people would say that this is only the beginning. No reparations.
Oh yeah, you start giving money...who knows where that leads. Slippery Slopes are not real remember.
Agreed. And it would probably come out of taxes. Which black people pay taxes too. Just like stimulus checks. Inflation again.
A black Canadian of West Indian descent , huh?🤔 trying to picture that ..I can't.
Anyone with any integrity wouldn't accept reparations - it's money generated by slavery. It's basically saying 'Hey, you sold my great-grandfather - where's my cut?'
@@jamesking1495 Not too hard. I myself am a white West Indian of Canadian descent.
It’s incredible how some students in this privileged place ignore this man and just keep on chatting with friends.
I was thinking the same thing
Your being too kind by calling them students.
In full view of the camera! That's how oblivious these students are. I can't imagine having a camera actually pointed in my direction and behaving like this in a lecture. Rude to the max.
Little spoilt brats . Plain and simple .
And playing with their phones... and most of those phones were manufactured by very cheap far-eastern labor (i.e. slavery) and include component mined by low-wage slaves in africa. But at least they have the latest "smart" phone.
The kids behind him are enraging. So outraged yet don't listen to any of it because they're to busy talking
Indeed, that is the problem with having a conversation with "woke" It's either you are 100% with us or 100%. against us and there is nothing in between. If you disagree with them, even in the slightest then you are a bigot, racist, transphobe, incel...End of discussion, they won't listen anymore. Completely unreasonable, there's almost no point in having a conversation with them.
The student’s behavior is rude, arrogant, and shows their immaturity. Rafe’s speech was brilliant. I hope those students will wise up and listen to his words again in the near future.
“ I never owned any slaves, and you never picked any cotton!”. Brilliant. Thank you Rafe.
I have both slave and slave owner ancestors. Must I pay my right pocket from my left?
Most of them just looked bored ..!!
@@johnlovin6465 Yes, oppressor and oppressed. You have my deepest sympathy for the injustice you did to yourself, you racist pig!
@@johnlovin6465 Wish I could give 2 thumbs up for that!
If they need to be paid maybe the black slave traders that actually captured the natives in Africa and sold them in other countries
If the kids sitting behind him are representative of the school, then Cambridge University should be embarrassed for what it is producing. Their behavior shows a lack of intellectual rigor, civility, and emotional self management.
That's because wokeism is not an intellectual stance, but a social acceptance strategy. It's value lies in social signaling to others. All the cool kids are woke! They're also anti- intellectual because cool kids know there's no social value in entertaining challenges to wokeism. It would be social suicide in fact. Leftists have hijacked young people's natural fears about not fitting in to serve their leftist political goals. Be woke and you'll fit in immediately! That other immature behaviors are reinforced by this group, brought together by their own immature needs, is unsurprising.
There's no hope for this country. TRUTH, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Depressing if the brightest of the nations will not LISTEN first - openness is normally a sign of intelligence
As the manager of an English academy in Germany, I was appalled by the behaviour of the students in the hall. They were no better than hyperactive children, chatting and playing with their phones during a great talk. I would never tolerate such rudeness in my lectures.
I think this is worse than ADHD... It's willful and malicious ignorance.
Great talk? Okay
Perhaps they tire of such sleights of hand.
@@mick8888V What does that mean?
@@garbonzo1947 well the title chosen by the crown and this man self-identifies is a pretty good indicator of who and what he represents (a false narrative on colonization, slavery and murder).
I’m astonished by the rudeness of the students located behind Rafe. Rafe is correct in pointing out the silence about CONTEMPORARY slavery!
It’s remarkable how every time he says something positive about Britain, there’s at least an 80% chance that the girl in the stripes looks towards her friends with a dopey smile on her face, looking for affirmation from them to consider what was just said ridiculous. She can’t think on her own and has to outsource it to her equally rude and ignorant friends
It's because that doesn't really matter to them. The things happening in other countries have no bearing on their own lives. A fact he repeatedly pointed out. They look back on their ancestry with a mixture of shame and a grudge towards whomever is perceived today to be responsible for those events hundreds of years ago. The white descendants today are culpable for how these kids feel now, by being the only ones alive left to blame. And naturally the way to make things all better is a pay day.
The UN estimates that there are 50 million slaves today, mainly in Africa and the Muslim world! From Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad, Sudan, to Indonesia! Current students are grossly ignorant because they refuse to learn!
Complete and utter ignorance by these idiots. I hope their parents have seen and realising they are wasting their money
Well, I am from India and I can they do not need to pay the reparations now. Its childish to ask for this from them. But its right to teach them what really happened and not the modified history. Acknowledging the fact that what done was wrong would be more appreciated than returing few money out of 45 trillions stolen out of my country.
Bout time someone with the facts was heard publicly.
Good for him. The giggles of the students do not do them any credit.
It literally stupefies me to see how absolutely indoctrinated our youth had become, brings to mind how the enemy had “crept in unawares”
Please resist being 'literally' stupified by something with which you disagree. It serves no purpose.
all according to their plan
We need a good purge all these snowflakes gotta go
Well said
Yuri Bezmenov was right .... and we didn't listen.
50% of the students that we see in the background can't sit still long enough to absorb what is being said, let alone expect them to have the intelligence to take any of this information in.
That's the SSRIs they're all on. These people will shout at you how the world should be run but they're literally on drugs to keep their brain from telling them to kill themselves every day because they're so pitifully miserable
I think the boy with a blue shirt is the only one that listened carefully
Most of these students have never read a book in their lives unless forced to do so for an assignment, which makes them easy prey for propaganda.
They're only children.
@@richardcharlton-taylor6024 You don't know what children means.
I’m a Brit and I want reparations for having to listen to the woke people
Maybe if British history was taught properly in schools and compulsory until the age of 18 then our youngsters would know the facts rather than social media versions of our history.
Cell phones should be banned from these sessions .... .
My daughter in law teaches at Cambridge University. She insists that her students switch off their phones and leave them on a table by the door. One such student started a campaign to have her fired for interfering with his "basic human rights"; thankfully the dean of the college "advised" him of the foolishness of his ways.
@@hb1338 Oh they'll know all about that! Basic human rights is prob. top of their lists....
@@margaretflounders8510 Hazelnut lattes are a human right!
The single most important skill a student needs to master is the ability to listen. Clearly we are failing the young by not teaching it hard enough in schools before they get to university.
This is why the majority of humans were born with 2 ears but only 1 mouth
I blame the phones clutched in their hands, giving marching orders and other useless info.
Obviously their parents failed to tea h them respect . What I can not understand is why Cambridge admitted them.
@@prepperpatti-rc3nl Too often those kids come from parents that couldn't get respect if they paid for it.
False. The single most importsnt skill a student can learn is how to identify bullsh¡t. Filling their head with every stupid thing some lazy slavery apologist says is not a great use of time. This mans arguments are bad.
FINALLY someone tells the facts but will MSM pick up on this? Hardly!
I am a fan of Thomas Sowell's books. He informed those who are NOT of Slavic heritage where the word SLAVE actually derives from. I AM of Slavic descent so I already knew this. Sowell also covered many, many occulations of countries by foreigners throughout history where the occupiers made the indigenous their slaves. This doesn't just go back to recent centuries, but millenia. Anyone who has read a Bible knows this.
As a parent it would shame me to admit those privileged little infants were any of mine. Their behaviour was deplorable.
Their parents are likely the same.
Better fix them with slavery.
Their parents are likely millennial marxists with pink hair.
@@commandervile394 doubtful really. Numbers would say otherwise.
Giggling, disrespectful - obviously have no wish to learn because they know it all!
The man's doing nothing other than talking truths and common sense.
@Johan Olin-Selin Please expound.
@@johnnyslane3056 good luck getting a leftist to expound on anything... That is their entire schtick.. Just huck out accusations and emotional tirades having no logical or factual backing.
@Johan Olin-Selin Yes, let's see what-- if anything-- you've got.
@@johnnyslane3056 Let me give you a clear example The British launched the first of many attacks on China beginning with the first opium wars in 1839, when the Chinese government (of the Qing Dynasty) saw its citizens been plagued by opium addiction mostly sold by the British who illegally exported to China hundreds of shipments of opium from its colony in India. When China lost the opium wars against Britain, it was forced into signing of the Treaty of Nanjing, By its provisions, China was required to pay Britain a large indemnity, cede Hong Kong Island to the British, and increase the number of treaty ports where the British could trade from one to five, while allowing the British to openly import opium to China. Hong Kong while under the British rule for more than 150 years from from 1841 to 1997, never saw a day of democracy as every single Governor of Hong Kong was a Brit appointed by the British monarch. While British monarch is the supreme ruler of Hong Kong, the Governor is the plenipotentiary representative of the monarch. The position of Governor is extremely powerful, presiding over the Executive Council as well as the Legislative Council of Hong Kong, and has full control of the appointment AND dismissal of members to both councils. so, it would be extremely hypocritical for the UK to now support Hong Kong in its so-called democratic movement once it was returned to Chinese sovereignty while the British never gave the people of Hong Kong a day of democracy during its rule.
@@johnnyslane3056 You'll be waiting a while for a response 🤣
Thank you Rafe! That was beautiful and so informative. I am not sure how many people actually got your message, but the ones in the back were totally set in their minds and the oriental/asian girl was set in her mind as well, but could not wait for her turn, because me first.
Man oh man, I love this guy. Where might I be allowed-to contribute to his worthy cause of educating the young woke ignorant liberal masses? He deserves all of our support.
As a law lecturer of a reputable UK university I can comfortably accuse the modern institutions as nourishing a mindset amongst their students where any fact which doesn't appease their ego driven, self delusional narrative gives them the right to be enraged, abusive and in some cases violent. This is devoid of any dialogue or conversation only that they're entitled to be disrespectful. Appalling behaviour that's sadly a common theme.
Disgusting. And to think that they're so brainwashed in their outlook that they cannot see how captured they are by this woke mentality is disturbing.
I call BS to your statement, changes are here to stay, whitewashing history will be in the past soon.
I can believe that. I graduated from a UK university in 2006. I’m so grateful that I missed the woke wave…. We treated our lecturers with respect and awe, and they were worthy of that respect because they were highly intelligent and accomplished researchers. They knew some really interesting stuff. It was their job to challenge our thinking and to let us challenge theirs. They never treated us as “less than” but it was also clear they had more knowledge and life experience and so we listened.
@@danika9448 2006? The lecturers of 2006 did not stop lecturing today. They are still there, and they are the ones putting these thoughts in these childrens mind
Cambridge University used to be a hugely respected institution. Watching this, I would never encourage anyone to study there. They need a complete fumigation to rid themselves of these so called students AND the professors responsible for it.
This guy is an absolute legend! Nobody can argue with a single thing he said because he spoke nothing but facts 👏👏👏
no one can argue with him because they are a bunch of entitled brats that think they already have the world figured out
I agree with you that he’s likely right, but any topic can and should be argued with.
Whataboutism is facts now? Notice he did not show one receipt proving Africans SOLD humans and not kidnap or steal. He spent more time shifting blame from slave owners rather than proving a point as to why their accumulated wealth shouldn't be given to descendants of inhumanely enslaved humans.
@@CarsonHughes85 yeah when you are in the same topic. Hopefully on the same facts with just a other interpretation. Or when facts are in question, better have a similar or better explanation why your facts are better and worth the comparison to find the truth
@@ichmich9324 definitely. I’m currently listening to the full debate.
Perfectly argued Rafe...
Telling the truth can really piss off woke people.
How lovely of Cambridge University to allow some children to sit in on these lectures.
😂
If only they would have been paying attention... They might have actually LEARNED something for once.
@@Ashigeru47 You make the mistake of assuming that the students are actually there to learn. What is the point of learning if you already HAVE all of the answers?
@@kevincrosby1760 😂😂
Yeah it was creepy how they all looked like 15 year olds.
This has to be one of the most articulate, tactful, and well-delivered versions of, "Your argument is invalid, go away." I have ever heard. Well done, sir. Well done.
Some of his arguments aren't entirely accurate, though. For example, he talks about how the idea of reparations is based on the principles of torts. This is somewhat true, but then he says that torts is about making the victim whole. This is not entirely true. For example, wrongful death suits are to make a victim whole per-say. However, the victim in those suits aren't the person who suffered directly from the crime because said person is dead. Thus, the primary victim cannot be made whole. So we allow a secondary victim such as family to sue for the damage done. The suit isn't just for the emotional damage to the secondary person but is also done to help make right a wrong that has been done by at least allowing the family to get something back to fill the void left by the death of the victim. Another example of where he is kind of correct, but there is more nuance, is his argument that we don't hold the innocent liable for the actions of their forefathers. Except we do sometimes. For example, say Person A drives drunk and negligently hits Person B and kills them. However, person A also dies in the crash. The family of person B can sue the estate of Person A. But why? Person A is dead and gone and that money would normally by law pass to his heirs. Should person A's children be punished by having less of an inheritance because of the actions of Person A? In fact, the heirs of person A could even be the grandchildren or great grandchildren of person A. Should they be punished for the actions of their ancestor? By law, yes, up to the point of the value of the estate. This can even be after the estate has been probated and given to Person A's heirs. Why? Because we believe it is more important that the wrong be made right by taking from what was person A's estate to do what we can to compensate the family of person B for the wrong committed to person B by person A. This obviously isn't exactly the same as reparations, but the concept is similar and exists within tort law. Thus, he is correct in saying it isn't the same, but he misses some nuance by neglecting this aspect. Next, he asks why the taxpayers should foot the bill for the actions of a small number of slavers. Then he doesn't really dive into that topic, so why don't we? First, governments are responsible for their actions, even if that money ends up being from the taxpayer. I doubt anyone here would object to the government having to pay out if one of its employees committed some harm to someone. For example, would you say the government shouldn't be able to be sued if one of its officers raped a woman while he was acting in his official capacity as an officer? If you say they should, then I could use this man's argument against you. Why should the innocent taxpayer have to pay for the tortious action of the police officer? Is it because the victim was injured by the government in some way, and thus, the government should pay in order to try to rectify the harm? If you say the government should be immune to such suits, then I have to ask you, why? Do you think that the government does not have some liability for the actions of those acting in its employ? Now, obviously, this is a more direct example of the government committing the harm. The British government didn't enslave anyone directly (to my knowledge). But that doesn't particularly matter to his particular argument here. His question wasn't whether or not we should hold the government responsible because it wasn't directly involved. His argument was why the common people should have to pay for damages done by the government via taxes. My response is, because the government already does that in plenty of circumstances where the government is responsible for some harm and most of us agree with this concept because the victim should be made whole and the government is the offender. We can have the later argument of whether the government should be held liable when it wasn't directly involved. But that is a separate discussion, and his argument here isn't a particularly good one. There is more that I think he says that there is valid critique of it, but I think these three in the first 2 minutes or so kind of demonstrate how his arguments seem to lack proper nuance.
@Utkarsh Gupta So you want their great great great grandchildren to apologize, and open the gate to people like you then saying, "see see, you are guilty,..pay us" you have a large chip on your shoulder
@Utkarsh Gupta Doubt you would go to the Mughals or the Mongols with the same argument
@Utkarsh Gupta Apologise - at first. So I can deduce you are not british saying this. And secondly, WE FREED THEM ALL. You would still be in chains if it weren't for our forefathers. I think it is about jealousy at the end of the day by foreigners of today. We did the trade better than anybody else, we then made our society better so we didn't need the trade anymore.
Your comment is nearly exactly the same as the students attitude behind him. I also think it's telling that we don't get to here any actual debate or response from the student body to his rhetoric. You can agree or disagree with reparations, but the majority of his points / arguments are irrelevant, mis-characterizing, or diversionary (or "invalid"). 1. For example, his comparisons of GDP between Caribbean and African countries: 1. Many caribbean countries may have a high GDP per capita, but only because of the soaring inequalities existing in these countries that are a direct result of the same imperial-economic apparatus that brought colonialism to them in the first place. Tax-haven institutional-infrastructure and citizen by investment programs bring lots of money into Caribbean island-states, but it remains concentrated in the hands of oligarchs and property "developers" within these countries in the same way the wealth generated by slave-plantation farming remained in the hands of wealthy plantation owners (or their investors back in Europe). I'd be much more interested in quality of life comparisons for the majority of people, or the statistical mode of earnings (or even Median), as per capita stats are bogus when wealth distributions are so skewed. 2. The African countries he talks about were also destabilized and suffered losses of resources and people at the hands of British/European imperialism over the same time period, which have far-reaching economic legacies up to today, and bear a large part of the reasons for their low GDP in modern times. Same with his arguments about the english language. Yeah, british imperialism spread the english language around the world (and wealth concentrating institutions and private property law) at the same time as it was siphoning the resources/wealth of other societies and committing genocide. Not a surprise that english helps you get by in the world to a better degree in the modern day than non-english speakers. Same with legal institutions that originated in English/European law. Britain/Europe created the rules governing our era's style of economic-imperialism, and roled out the institutions that follow those rules in their colonies. If you rejected these, e.g., Haiti or Cuba, you were serverely punished by the globalized economic elites. It's disingenuous and morally bankrupt to argue that this should count as a "benefit" of colonialsim. 3. The stories we tell, and the answers and arguments we come up with are explicitly defined by the questions we ask ourselves. I think much of this debate around reparations is intentionally funneled towards diversionary topics, rather than being allowed to focus on the underlying structures of economic-imperialism and entrenched hierarchies that oppress people in the present day as much as they did in the colonial past. For example, regarding colonialism: Why did so many Europeans want to uproots and leave their homes in the first place? It's a no-brainer if you were among the elite capitalists who could further their fortunes overseas, but why did so many labourers, tenant-farmers, etc., head over to the new world? Possibly because injustice, wealth inequalities and lack of equal opportunities at home in Britain/Europe pushed them? The speaker brings up the point that "innocent" modern-day tax-payers have no moral or ethical resposibility to pay back the descendents of slavery. Fine, but how about those dwelling within the entrenched hierarchies of wealth and power who benifitted from the inhuman exploitation of people and the land around the world during slave-colonialism, and continue to benefit from this legacy today? In many cases, the families and institutions of economic elitism of 200 years ago are the same existing today, and which continue to exploit people and the land both within Europe and abroad. Regarding reparations, I'd be all in favour of international efforts to re-distribute the vast concentrated wealth of the 1% globally and put it into social programs (e.g., health, education, justice) across "developing" countries and economically disadvantaged areas of "developed " countries. Let me know if you disagree and on what grounds
Well said rafe, you just educated the entire hall.
You're welcome, world! This guy should be PM. Rule Britania!
Wow, to think this University claims to be one of the best in the world is incredible. The students visible and audible in this video were immature, rude and clearly not interested in hearing something that differs from their own ideologies. The whole point of Universities is to be a place where people with open minds can learn new or different ideas and then go on and create something new or better from them.
Cambridge is no longer considered a AAA university, it is more an echo chamber for marxist ideology and a disemination centre for idiocy
Well said.
Wrong. The whole point of Universities is to indoctrinate you.
They are just rich, spoiled brats, not real people.
It is not a place for open minds anymore sadly...
When you see these very privileged individuals disrespect such a highly experienced and educated person it makes me fear for the future of this planet. I getting older and will be pleased that I will not have to be subject to the tyranny that these children will inflict on us, the persecution of free thought, free speech and individualism that we fought for over the centuries. Shame on them!
But the speaker was dreadful. He said nothing at all of substance. He was there for the entertainment factor rather erudition. He’s not an academic.
He’s a slavery apologist. Not someone most people would put on a pedestal.
Incidentally, how are those young people ‘privileged’ - except by intelligence? And how is ‘Babu’ - as we used to call such ‘Uncle Toms*’ - in any way qualified to anything more sport a cumberband around his big fat liver? *see Harriet Beecher-Stowe, “book”
@@f.kieranfinney457 since most slavery was committed by non white groups, it’s interesting that only the white component is being harassed and harried on a daily basis. It’s an unfortunate truth that most captured Africans put into slavery were actually sold and transported into other African areas and held as slaves in Africa and the Middle East. Too many people just watch tv and don’t want to hear the truth as the excuse dies with the lies that whites are the only peoples that took slaves. I read recently that the larger slave owner in North America was a black man! He put the white slave owners to shame in numbers and how he treated them was extremely cruel. I’ll have to dig his name up and post it.
@@f.kieranfinney457First of all, he stated how abhorrent slavery was several times during his speech. Pointing out the many sound reasons why requiring current citizens to make “reparations” for an atrocity that Britain ended in 1805 is folly doesn’t make him an apologist. Secondly, being polite and listening while someone offers an opposing view, particularly when it is well stated and based on fact and reason, doesn’t equate to the audience putting him on a pedestal. Civility towards those who reasonably believe differently is a hallmark of a stable society. Conversely, the lack of civility, which is increasingly common and even celebrated today, is disheartening evidence of the erosion of societies around the globe.
Young students become nihilists and carefree. The fall will be terrible.
Wow. Brilliant, Rafe! Keep at it!