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I FORGOT PIERS UGH EVERYTHING IS GARBAGE he gets Obstagoon, Malamar, Skuntank, Scrafty, Toxtricity, and Thievul. The first five he uses in the Champion's Tourney, and Thievul is bc it's a Gen 8 Dark type
MandJTV Bulbapedia said that blue does not accept challenges from anyone unless they have all the other 7 kanto gym badges. Just wanted to let you know!
It’s ok man, just keep putting out awesome content so I don’t commit LEGO step out of boredom
Thank you haha I noticed something was up!!
Pin this so that no more comments like that pop up.
Btw Mikey in the diamond and pearl anime roark chooses different Pokémon depending on how many gym badges the challenger has
This actually makes a lot of sense, because not everyone in a certain region lives in the "first" town
Yes
Yep, that and not everyone goes to the professors lab to get their first pokemon (Wally for example you helped catch his Raltz)
No but thats where the lab is so technically they will all start from "first" town.
I also always thought of these professors conducting research on the pokemon sent to them, but also has too keep and take care of them all.
yes, but of course that means anyone who was born on Cinnabar island are permanently stuck there because you're not allowed to use surf since Blaine's badge doesn't allow the use of it, so although everyone would beat him fairly easily with water pokemon given the location, their journey ends there, and of course when the volcano exploded... they couldn't leave the island oh god! (yes I know they have boats they'd travel by boat to do the electric gym second but I'm trying to be funny)
If Morty had a team composed of six Gengars, can we call them Gangar?
LMAO
BRUH
Take my likes
It's the Gangar gang
Gang gang! 😂😂 best comment by far
Scarlet and Violet explained this in the post game story when you rematch gym leaders, they explain that by regulation they are required to hold back depending on the local area and the kind of trainers that they expect to find so they cannot go all out. Even if they're among the last few gym leaders they still have to follow regulations and restrain themselves to a degree.
Finally official explanation.
I love Katy’s rematch. She was also frustrated that she can’t do much about it because she is either the 1st gym for any gym challengers.
@@misora25chan I love she's getting more determined to kick people's butts
@@beckhampang191 the worst part this is a open world game so I can take her down for last
now if only they actually did this as you play through the game like a fan mod does... seriously, if Crystal Clear, a Gameboy Colour mod can have levelling scale on badges obtained, i dont know how a main series game doesnt have it.
I actually liked how Galar made their own explanation - that there is an official order in which gyms are beaten and so they adjust their teams to be reasonably difficult depending on where they are. At the end during the battle for champion, they show their full teams
“The final gym leader of Kanto is Blue.” Official Pokemon Handbook: You mean Gary
Hahaha 😂
Perfection
Gary is an alt name for Blue in the games, so it's not really wrong
Gary was here, ash is a loser
We jokin
That's why in black and white 2, Cheren literally says "I wish I could fight with my own Pokemon" when you beat him in his gym Battle.
Yep i think it's on the Xtranceiver right?
His original team had a haxorus
I hated Hugh growing up, but I loved Cheren and Bianca. I enjoyed seeing them in B2 and W2
You even can eventually fight him with his own Pokémon if you connect the first game to the sequels. He will even have the correct starter.
@@dedynsied only thing I liked about Hugh is you could change his name
I find it kinda wholesome seeing Elite 4 members with starters, like their very first Pokémon from the very beginning who carried them to the very top and they still have this strong bond and friendship with them enough to keep them around. Maybe I’m overthinking it, but that’s the narrative I tend to paint about it.
Beautiful concept, imagine when you fight them, a sad music plays when their starter is sent out, because they are remembering the days where they were just a trainer
I think its stupid because we have seen them use starters that make the game boring for them being bad
gyarados cannot fly unlease your playing pokemon legends arceus
Well usually in the lore starters are just rare pokemon given by the professor to the protagonist and most people find other means to get a starter, e.g. gifts, inheritance, etc. Great idea though
@@FlamingCobra16 yeah, it's canon that Cynthia's starter was a Gible hatched from an egg iirc. the starters we get as players aren't necessarily the standard starters for every trainer we meet.
Mikey: “Gyarados can’t fly” Legends Arceus coming out: I would disagree
It can.
That’s what he said
but learns no good physical flying moves including the move literally called fly....
@Stickman Gaming I think it learns Bounce, which while not great, is solid.
@@PokecrafterChampion yeah, that’s gonna hurt from him 🤣
“Whitney would have miltank” oh no “Clefable” oh NO “Blissey” OH NO!
Toxic wish stall lmao.
No no no no no NO!
*uses roll out
@@Teamkiller153 I'd recommend Crystal Clear for the GBC. Its an open world Pokemon Crystal where you can fight the gym leaders in any order. Though I doubt there will be any Toxic Wish stalling lol
She likely could have two miltanks
When Whitney came up, I'm just glad she didn't have 6 Miltanks.
Woah Imagine Ash managed to stop her rollout, then she uses milk drink then attracts pikachu. And then whitney has 5 more miltanks.
but shes still broken (mikeys version)
Im hitmonlee-ing The Heck Out of That
Whitney was easy idk why so many people find her so hard
It would be hell
For Roxanne he really said “what if Emerald Kaizo?”
You could eliminate Flannery's repeat Camerupt by giving her a Castform, since all of her Pokémon already know Sunny Day.
And Torkoals ability is drought, would be fun in a double battle as well
@@belafeldbusch3397 Torkoal can only have Drought starting in Sun and Moon.
Oh flame yeah!
I would love if several Hoenn leaders use castform just to force weather a little more heavily. It would be neat to see imo
Hail yeah! Or, uh, sun yeah?
Imagine having 56 badges and coming to a sword and shield first gym and the gym trainer ask how many gym badges you have
“Badges? No, I don’t have any”
U can only have 48 badges Alola doesnt have any gyms
If that happens, you have to fight the gym leader in hand to hand combat
@@lovelyoasis I wouldn’t fight surge or chuck for sure lol.
Oh uh I have uh + ya + badges
Other trainers having starters blew my mind as a kid. Like: “what do you mean picknicker girl has a bulbasaur?????”
Honestly I'd love the ability to trade some of them, breeders especially, for starters.
She stole it from oak
@frostburnpuppy those were his last three pokemon tho
ur squirtle do be lookin dead tho..
@@fallenolympian9860 Maybe she got it last year or even sooner?
Falkner: "Darn! My Dad's cherished bird Pokémon! He raised them to be over level 10 this time!"
14:21 "Gyarados despite being a flying type, cannot fly !" Pokémon Legends Arceus didn’t make that statement age well lmao
I came specifically looking for this comment 😂
Whitney: Who needs 6 miltanks when 1 is enough?
Yeah I agree one miltank is enough for now
In fact one is too much
I can imagine the hell it would be if Whitney had at least 2 or more milktanks
Someone planning a very large barbecue?
Her team if she had six miktanks she has the 8th gym leader
Brock: Hm? You got 14 badges? Gotchu.
brock: sends out a level 69,420 mega rayquaza with a life orb
@@SonOfSparda3139 I would say that’s not a rock type then one shot it with ice beam
@@reedog2791 level 69,420, an ice beam aint gonna do crap
@@SonOfSparda3139 but my Pokémon is level 100,000,000,000. So it will ohko
Me Who played every game and got all gym badges: Haha I’m in danger Me remembers that I have Pokémon more powerful than Helix: Haha ur in danger
This reminds me of one of the best romhacks that existed: Crystal Clear. Since the game was an open ended pokemon crystal, each gym was given 16 teams. The teams were of course full of their types' top mons, but also some that just made sense on their final team. For example Morty would have a Ho-oh, Jasmine has Amphy, Chuck has a Shuckle named Chuckle because comedy The dude Shockslayer who made the hack clearly put a ton of care into balancing the gyms' teams, and even adds a re-challenge mechanic so you can fight through the gyms again at any badge level
H-H-HO-OH?!
I love the pun of Chuckle
yup, Blaine has a Moltres (to fit the story of Moltres leading Blaine off the volcano he was trapped on, that a gym trainer tells you in gen 1).
Fun fact: Koga has used an Arbok in the Adventures Manga. The red/blue manga has a trope of getting Arboks sliced in half, and Koga’s can actually regrow at incredible speeds, while others need to be taken to the Pokémon center. It can also move sliced off body parts
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
wut
@@elfranko1908yeah the manga is wild and that is a major understatement
Brock: How many badges do you have? Red: I have none. Brock: OK. Also Brock: Uses 6 level 100 Pokemon with perfect stats and movesets. Red: This is where I die.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Onix would still need like 4 attacks to finish Red's starter
@@Besitzerstolz yeah onix's physical attack is garbage
Pizza Homie I think they are joking......
@@Besitzerstolzlol
I feel like since Gym Leaders are important people in the Pokemon universe, giving them access to starters would be fine.
some gym leaders even use starters, like Gardenia.
@@samrobinson4881 Also some Ace trainers use starters as well as a few random ones throughout
@@blazingswordsman5410 ye he need swampert
@@Flygonnerrs in pokemon sapphire there is a trainer that uses Kyogre..... starters are fine.
also the fact that literally anywhere outside of main series games, starters aren't rare at all. and even WITHIN main series games, random fodder enemies have plenty of starters. the first trainer you battle when you get to kanto from.johto (if you got there the intended way anyway) is a showoff girl who has the entire bulbasaur evolutionary line. I've said it many times but I'll say it again, starters being limited is bullshit. give me starter wild spawns like you give me pikachu spawns. would do literally no harm whatsoever.
What if for Cilan, Chili and Cress instead of being whatever leader is strong against your starter, they just made it a triple battle with all three using 2 pokemon each
Drayano's Blaze Black and Volt White ROM hack somehow made the triplets Rotation Battles with every first-stage starter of their types plus their ace monkey
i'd actually love that. a 6v6. the only time a gym leader's battle will actually be fair in terms of # of pokemon
Mikey: There is no gym in Alola so I am going to give Kahunas the best team Trail Captains: Am I a joke to you
you only fight them in mina's trial tho
@@egon3705 witch is the last trial so this entire exercise is rendered moot.
morty: my team is gengar, gengar, gengar, gengar, gengar, & misdreavus everyone else:??? morty: your right my new team is gengar, gengar, gengar, gengar, gengar, & gengar
Updated team: 2/3 Gengars, Mismagius, Misdrsavus & Alolan Marowak
*we can't have too many repeats*
3 Gengars and 3 Misdreavus one of them being Mismagius in HG&SS is great.
@@ethantreadway9478 ok that sounds good... but three?!
Good job
Micheals: Every gym leader ever Piers: A FOOLISH MISCALCULTAION
this one actually made me laugh lol
*Vicious guitar riffs in the background*
Okay grandma
Magnús Hinrik Matthíasson shut up
I would give him Obstagoon, Malamar, Scrafty, Skuntank, Toxitricity and Hydreigon. The first four are of the campionship and the last was the only one I could remember.
The reason the eighth gym doesn't use six Pokemon is because the Elite Four uses anywhere from 4-5 and they save the 6-Team for Champion Battles. While I agree, it would be interesting to see them use 6 Pokemon since they are the final Gym Challenge, we should hold the standard to the Elite Four, too.
I love gym leader rematches omg their teams is wayy tougher than their 1st go around
"These pokemon look like a dragon so it's fine." Raihan:
@Sundae the Espeon Maybe he was looking for a Turtonator but gave up and caught a Torkoal
Everyone:talks about Raihan not using his gyms type Blue:Am i a joke to you
@@iluvchess14736 This is the best comment I have seen in a while
Raihan should be a ground type gym leader
@@Thatguy-fw9ld To be fair. Blue had technically recently been appointed as Gym Leader and it was probably easier (in universe) to simply let him use his personal team for the time being.
Honestly, Giovanni having a Persian was pretty cool. It was unique and it was a perfect fit for his aesthetic.
Yeah, in fact I placed Persian in his Kanto Gym Team along with Sandslash (to replace Rhyhorn and Dugtrio)
Silly of me to say but the idea of Roark and Byron both having Probopasses is amazing. Imagine if Roark's Probopass was the child of Byron's, whom he raised from an egg.
i am late here but like this is very wholesome thank you stranger on the internet
Awww
Why that to hard
"Koga has never used an arbok" Meanwhile in adventures Manga Koga: Behold my arbok that can regrow it's body from being sliced in half
lmaoo
"Cool ain't it? Wanna see it again? *chop*"
I WAS GONNA SAY lmao, I couldn't remember if it was Koga or another character that had an Arbok. I think Agatha also had one, but I'm not entirely sure cuz its been 7 years since I've read it.
@@KenroGaming Yes Agatha had an Arbok as well
Yea but that's the manga
This is what I love about the Crystal Clear ROM hack. You can do the gyms in any order and the game tracks how many badges you have and has 16 teams per gym leader. You can also grind on gym leaders if you want.
2 things: 1. Why do the leaders have 16 teams? Wouldn't they only need 8, maybe 9? 2. The wording of that last sentence is... interesting
@@unitds27-delta it's a hack of Crystal, where there are 16 gyms (Johto and Kanto). The gym teams change for every badge you get to scale with you.
Having recently beaten pokémon scarlet and violet, I loved that the post game has us revisit all the gyms and all of the gym leaders are using their actual teams which further solidifies that they are only fighting us based on the skill level and amount of badges we have.
Not quite since they don’t adjust their gym battle teams. Katy only uses two Pokémon regardless of if you have zero badges or seven, for example.
@@yorecf9641They’re talking about the re-battles. After you complete the game you go back and fight all the gym leaders again.
@@Apolloshot I know about the teams. However, OP said, “…they are only fighting us based on the skill level and number of gym badges we have.” If that were actually the case, their teams would be adjusted depending on how many badges you have. If memory serves, Katy actually laments how she’s forced to only use one team for the gym challenge regardless of when you actually battle her.
The way I understood that bit of dialogue was that the regulations restrict them based on their general location rather than however skilled the opponent may be. Katy and Brassius are very close to Mesagoza and thus league rules and regulations restrict them to first/second gym status as the students are most likely to make either Cortando or Artazon the first stop on their journey. So basically it's just another instance of Geeta being a bad boss, for Paldea at least.
Alternate Title: PWT is such an amazing facility.
I know
Yeah really want the star tournament to be like PWT.
They should bring back the Battle Frontier and replace the overused tower with PWT
Unless your name is Falkner, then you end up having a team with 4 Pokemon with the exact same type combination, 3 of whom you just took from the generation before you instead of Pokemon introduced in your gen that have more interesting type combinations.
Gen 6,7,8 did not sign up.
Micheal: I woud not give gym leaders legendaries *gives one of them a bibarel*
i got sooo mad lol
It's God
Atleast he Didn’t get Whitney the Top Percentage Rattata
Blane has an arcanine.
Ikr BIBAREL IS A FREAKING LEGENDARY.
I think Flannery should have a Castform. Although it's a normal type, it can change to fire type when Sunny Day is activated- a move Flannery uses in the game.
Hell yeah!
Flame on!
I loved the Pokemon Origins moment too. It confirmed a head canon that I had ever since Gold and Silver came out. I had guessed the gym leaders had multiple teams to scale to challengers in universe because the Kanto gyms in the post game all had stronger teams. For over 10 years I thought it was just my explanation, then I saw it in Origins!
Brock: Ok, so I will use Onix, Golem, Aerodactyl, Omastar, Kabutops, Rydon 10 year old me: I have a Pikachu and a Weedle
Two words: Grass Knot.
Welp you are ash Ketchum now all you have to do is set of the emergency building sprinkler system and you win
@@anakintalks7082 Kabutops and Omastar: you activated my trap card
@@trent800 haha swift swim go brrrr
" level 50 pokemon at the first gym is ridiculous." *Laughs in professor oak challenge*
* *Laughs in Amino PKM RP Comunitys* *
@David Austin Laughs In Gen 2
I would actually give Kabu Chandelure over Heatmore because you can catch litwick in his gym challenge. It adds more variety to his team and it makes sense since Alister isn’t using one.
17:47 “the sinnoh dex has a lot of water type options.” Girafarig, hippopotas, hippowdon, azurill, skorupi, drapion, crogunk, toxicroak and carnivine: *WOTR*
Raihan is actually stretching his "theme" in an attempt to beat the crap out of Leon and his Charizard by going full Sandstorm and Rock Slide, and he's hoping no one would notice :^)
I still consider the gym the 1st weather gym, not dragon type lol
I noticed and I was mad cus I put my slow dumb fairy in the front with my cinderace for speed backup Almost died
Volroc Destinos Pretty sure he is a ground type gym leader tbh, i mean, ground is immune to sandstorm and all of his mons-Torcoal are ground
He is dragon type user but mix team with weather manipulation pokemon
Now I wish Gym Leaders focus on Single/Double Battle styles, not just types. Weather, traps, terrain, pivot switches, if those were implemented in the styles of Gym Leaders, plus a Challenge Mode, veterans can have a challenge.
Michael: says bibarel is the only fully evolved sinnoh water type that's not starter or legend gastrodon and lumineon: am I a joke to you?
Wat bout flotzal
Mikey wth
I misspoke. I meant to say "the only fully evolved Sinnoh water type that's not a starter or legend *that he's not already using*"
@African Negro Man already did ine
It's Denkiiiiii
For Clair, i suggest removing one of the Dargonites and replacing it with Tyranitar
Lapras
@@Sabrina-oj6ktagreed. She has one in Pokémon Stadium 2 and Iris uses it.
Fun fact: Koga does us a regenerative Arbok in manga, he has a mirror battle against Agatha’s arbok who cuts koga’s in half but it just regenerates.
don't forget blue's charmeleon who SPLITS IT IN HALF
Piers: Hello darkness, my old friend.
Suits him specially well.
HA!
Oh the irony
Wth is piers
Sangram Nayak idk think it’s a gym leader
Exeggutor: *exists* Kanto Gym Leaders: Hippity Hoppity, now you're my property
This made me start laughing
failed to locate funny
Luiz Bezerra Also Rhydon because Brock, Geovonni, and Blue all have Rhydon.
@@hystericallover5989 It wasn't labeled "funny" but if you assumed it to be funny and proceeded to type that lackluster response... Then you have located the funny. 😁
@@ethanford2466 Flawed logic is flawed.
14:27 "gyarados cant even fly, it should have never been a flying type" the flying gyarados in legends arceus: and i took that personally
Arkoos
I think this would be the next step for Pokemon games, making it so open world that you can do any gym in any order. And the game either detecting with AI what Pokemon/levels to use. Or each leader having 8 set teams to use depending what order you tackle the gyms in.
Go play Crystal Clear. It's exactly that.
Having a fully open world Pokémon game where you can battle the gyms in any order and their difficulty is based off your badges would be incredible. It would really be a fresh change to the game.
I know this comment is months old, but there's a Pokemon Crystal Romhack called "Crystal Clear" that does just that. You have essentially full access to both Kanto and Johto (even choosing which region you start in) and can challenge all of the gyms in any order you want. Each badge you obtain scales the next gym's levels and Pokemon up.
Casually challenges every gym leader with a low level castform
Embrace Pixelmon
Pokemon Crystal Clear.
Legends arcoos
Clair appears: MandJTV: Let's give her Lance's team!
Especially with the 2 dragonites lmfao
Clair: At least I'm not a bird keeper like he is!
@@jeffreygao3956 also clair: Well I'm not full of flying type Pokemon
For those asking why Brock never evolved Onix, it's because Steelix didn't exist until Gen 2 came out
For Norman I actually think his team would be more challenging if he had a Vigoroth with an Eviolite instead of a Spinda. In fact, I think more gym leaders could get away with using eviolite strats, especially Allister with his Ghost type team. He'd benefit from using an eviolite corsola.
Whitney’s actual team (extreme mode) Miltank Miltank Miltank Miltank Miltank Clefable (Cause Alex will hate it too)
If you were using Lucario it would be easy as hell Aura sphere Aura sphere Aura sphere Aura sphere Aura sphere Flash cannon/bullet punch
XD
@@daremon4204 Toxicroak: Am I a joke to you?
Clefable used minimize! Clefable used moonlight! Clefable used stored power!
@@Akiloxa **Laughs in Steelium Z**
I actually like it when Gym Leaders have starters on their teams, since I always picture it as _their_ personal starter, the one they got at the very start of their journey. They kept it all this time and it's the reason they fell in love with the type in the first place.
Well then they need to be given a Pokemon that is related to there type
@@jennydavis5635 which nintendo will never let happen in games unfortunately
@@modelomegatyler Gardena has a Turtwig in her gym battle
@@jaclyndenali6350 i was talking about how we can't get a starter of any type in the games. i don't know why i ended up responding to jenny
I get what your saying, but the three starters the player gets to choose from isn't necessarily every characters starter. A "starter pokemon" is just your first pokemon. It could be a charmander that the professor gives you, it could be a swablu that you find randomly, or it could be a manetric that you catch. Our character's starter pokemon aren't everyone's starter pokemon. (Btw don't scream at me lol I was just saying any pokemon could be a starter)
I've had this theory for a while too. And I think it applies Ash’s anime. Like Falkner using Pidgeot because Ash has an actual team vs in the games where he just uses Pidgey and Pidgeotto in the games.
10:31 “Phoebe using two Banette and two Dusclops in gen 3”. Proceeds to shoe her team in ORAS which has a Dusknoir
I never thought about how vastly harder X and Y would have been if they actually made gym leaders at a certain point use mega evolutions. I feel like it was very underused by npcs in the games and only used by Rival, Champion and the Flare leader, unless you want to add the 1 on 1 Lucario battle. They could have at least given the elite 4 some love...
Then play Z!
X and Y made megas feel like an afterthought, even though it probably wasn’t.
@@shadowmarauder6033 They tried to make them feel special by only giving them to the most important of trainers (namely the champion, the evil team leader, your main rival and... Korrina). Though I question why the Elite Four doesn't have them.
Eh the games started getting easy after Gen 3. Once Sword and Shield came out I knew they wasn’t even bothering trying to make the game difficult in any way. I mean I beat sword and shield using the first 6 Pokémon I caught off the first like 2 or 3 routes and never changed my team and didn’t experience a single loss. Also all the Pokémon got more stupid looking after Gen 3 lol. They also had a phase going which still persists to this day of having the staters not even look remotely interesting at all after Gen 1 and 2 and started noticing it in 3. Seems like every Pokémon game that comes out makes me a little bit more disappointed than I was with the last game.
"If it's already there, it's fair" I don't know how or when but I will use that in sentence...I will
Now with the context of Smash Bros..
I find it so irritating that this isnt made more prominent - many people don't even know or at least not have it confirmed! But yes, ALL Gym Leaders have 6+ Pokemon and are Great Trainers! They adapt their power level to your power level and situation!!! This should really be a thing in Games, Anime, Manga, just everywhere! Clear and confirmed!!
There's an idea for a rom, make it so you can go to the gyms in any order you want. The gym leaders adjust in accordance with the amount of badges you have. Also, do the same with the wild pokemon. Weaker pokemon will seek out noob trainers in hopes of getting stronger. Whilst stronger pokemon will tend to ignore them for not being "worthy" unlike trainers with more badges which weaker pokemon would be more cautious about. Not to say that you can't encounter weak pokemon when you have more badges, the encounter rate will just be lessened. (How they would know how many badge you had in the first place, I have no idea.)
So basically, the game of the anime.
That exists.
Crystal clear
So.. Pokemon ROWE?
@@DoTheDishesOrElse.. pokemon ROWE is fire
24:03 Can we talk about the way his voice carried itself there when saying Hawlucha? Does he need to hiccup, burp, or yawn?
Talking about Grant: "Mega aerodactyl is the obvious mega choice in my opinion". You literally find the aggronite/tyranitarite in his gym...
Mikey gave him Aggron, and the mega isn't rock. Tyranitar isn't a fossil, but it would be very logical for him to have one. If he did it would be his mega, and Barbaracle would be replaced by Aerodactyl. Finally I can get rid of it. I hate Binacle so much.
@Sundae the Espeon yeah how
Waewprach Tantipuripat Ok who cares that you hate binacle, he gave him barbaracle, not binacle......
When Aggron mega evolves he loses the rock type and becomes pure steel type.
well yeah if if he thinks mega aerodactyl is the best choice why would he discard the mega stone lol. aggronite/tranitarite are there because grant thinks they're garbage so throws them aside. ;)
Gamefreak sees this video, decides to have a 4th region variant of meowth and 3rd of persian making it ground type for Giovanni.
Apparently gen 9 will be set in Australia so that would be hilarious to see 😂
@@Anyoutlaw How do you know that?
@@Blaze4ification I said apparently. It’s just a theory. Since in the protagonists home (in sw/sh) we see a globe of what looks like Australia. And gamefreak love to tease next games and gens in the newest games.
@@Anyoutlaw Ah, I was thinking China because that's Urshifu's origins are very chinese esque, Mustard himself has some Chinese stuff going for him. Though it also has Greek lore, being based on the constellations ursa major and minor, next regions could be in Greece, Rome, both maybe a battle of ideals future vs past, war vs knowledge.
@@Anyoutlaw wait
I love the fact that Roxanne is buffed in this video, she's my second favorite gym leader next to Iono.
“Arbok is a cool pokemon” you are my new favourite youtuber
"The only time Giovanni has ever used a Persian was in the pokemon anime" Pokemon Yellow: "Am I a joke to you?"
I'm afraid that doesn't count; It's a tie-in game for the anime.
He said reason, not time
“I dont like giving pokemon leaders starters” *literally giving nearly every fire/grass/water gym leaders starters*
@@MrTrombonebandgeek he did say he didn't like to every time.
ninjarosias but it doesnt ignore the fact that he did
What if Whitney was every gym leader??? I would quit the franchise
Hey we be in hell
Makes sense
@@leek1012 she's a hero
@@biblicalmal8153 What,? the easiest one is by no question is Wulfric
OxygenTank Look on the bright side: at least it wouldn't be *Cynthia*
This is legitimately my favorite video you’ve ever done.
I disagree with your "I don't want to give them a starter" premise. The gym leaders had to START as rookie trainers as some point. Which means they very likely would have been given starters. So why WOULD'T they have starters?
Erika literally has a Venusaur
@@vincentsantini4038 That's because there are no Kanto Grass-types left.
There is a president set for gym leaders to use starters because Gardenia uses Turtwig
Because not everyone gets one of those Pokémon as their starter. Look at all of the random NPCs who have an early route normal type or bird Pokémon and that’s it. In Alola, we even see Nanu offer some kids one of three Alolan Meowths as their first Pokémon. Not a Rowlet, Popplio or Litten in sight. Edit: grammar.
First thing that hit my mind when I read your comment was in the anime where it shows a flashback Cynthia’s first starter was her Gible whom she hatched from an egg when she was a little kid
Michael: That's all of the Gym Leaders. Me: Where's Piers?
Yeah
He did forget him but mentioned his sister lol
Yeah, this confused me as well
Also, the trial captains from sun and moon.
I would give him Obstagoon, Malamar, Scrafty, Skuntank, Thievul, and Umbreon (Obstagoon, Malamar, Scrafty and Skuntank from original gym battle, Thievul and Umbereon are Dark types that Marnie doesn't use)
rewatching some of these older ones. and laughed when he spoke about Gyarados being flying but not flying and thinking about how in Legends Arceus there IS a flying Gyarados that you need to catch 3 times for its pokedex entry
*DO NOT LEAVE OFF THE Y IN GYARADOS! AND WE DON'T USE THE WORD ITS AS A PRONOUN IF THERE'S AN APOSTROPHE IN IT!*
This is a mechanic I REALLY, REALLY WANT. I thought Scarlet and Violet would do this since it was so open, and you can go anywhere. I was disappointed when that was not the case. Having gym leaders become fairly hard based on your badges, I feel, offers more relay value.
Even when I was little, I always just assumed the gym leaders were using multiple teams for different skill levels. That was why they all had stronger teams in Gold and Silver, or why Koga was strong enough to become an elite four despite only being gym leader #5, and it would explain what happens if a new trainer starts out in, say, Saffron City instead of Pallet Town. My friends thought I was nuts, but over a decade later Origins proved me right. Too bad I moved away, so they're not around for me to rub it in their faces.....should I be concerned that I've held onto that for so long?
You should mail them this information out of spite lol
@@PFC2018 Ha, that would be funny! Too bad I don't have any way to contact them.
@@ryuuronin9852 do you still remember there names? cause you could try to look them up on facebook
@@n_shadowfox1116 "hey , remember me? we were friends back in school. it's been so long and i felt like seeing you again. guess what I WAS RIGHT ABOUT GYM LEADERS. in your face ya doofus. smell ya later"
I find it so irritating that this isnt made more proiment - many people don't even know or at least not have it confirmed! But yes, ALL Gym Leaders have 6+ Pokemon and are Great Trainers! They adapt their power level to your power level and situation!!! This should really be a thing in Games, Anime, Manga, just everywhere! Clear and confirmed!!
Past Michael: miltank should count as 5 Now Micheal: I’m gonna add 5 more Pokémon in Whitney’s team
Pokémon Player Gian Well the video makes him do that.
Love these teams Few things Aren't Gym Leader Blue and Giovanni's ace Rhydon? Falkner - replace Fearow and Dodrio with Delibird and Skarmory for more Johto representation Chuck - Heracross instead of Primeape for Johto representation and Psychic type counter Jasmine - what about her Lighthouse Amphoros? Pryce - maybe Delibird instead of Cloyster for variety and reduce water types Korrina - how about Chesnaught? Hala - what about Kommo-o for pseudo?
I hope they do what they did in origins in a game, so you could fight the gyms in any order.
You could give Jasmine ampharos instead of second magneton, it's not steel type, but kinda make sense due to the gen 2 plot that she should have it.
I have seen u before
I don't think she owns Amphy.
@@jeffreygao3956 she doesn’t own Ampy, but Ampy only accepts medicine to save its life from her only since Ampy trusts her enough
@@matthewhaffner4416 In the anime, she owns Amphy, just not in games
I often associate Jasmine the most with Ampharos, so it definitely makes sense. I mean, I often still confuse her for an electric type gym leader instead of a steel type gym leader lol.
This also explains why some of the Gym Leaders (i.e Hearthome City in Sinnoh) won't battle you until you get stronger. These gym leaders recognize that they don't have a team that would be fair against weaker trainers, so won't face you until you have a certain number of other badges to prove you're worthy.
Like Petalburg in Hoenn?
@@latiiyoutube6468 yes
1:10 You can only battle Brawly with 4 badges maximum because you need to beat the first 4 Gym Leaders to battle Norman
I think Misty should’ve gotten a Blastoise somewhere. I know it’s a starter but Erika and Blaine had the other two, it makes sense for Misty to have the third.
There’s lots of Water type options in Kanto other than Blastoise.
Micheal: “koga hasn’t used a arbok” well technically koga did use a arbok in the manga...but you know,he was sliced in half so i guess this counts
MinePlants41 hey the arbok did regenerate after being sliced in half
He never wanted to see that again so he banned Arbok from his team haha
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ぺーターがだいすきlauren still a great manga tho
@@lauren-kitsuneroach Witch is why is think he should have a Delibird instedt of Jynx
Do y’all not realize how MESSED UP it is that giovanni has a freakin marowak
Russell Valorman97 no i don’t
Well I’d never thought about it, but now I’m mortified
Lucille Tañola Watch Origins.
no, please enlighten us
@@Usario321 team rocket kills a marowak that was protecting its cubone child
Love your videos. I’m just EV training on Sword while listening to you! The slog isn’t so bad now :) Thank you
For when you mentioned that bede and marnie can’t be fought before the post game as gym leaders, while that’s true for marnie the final bede fight gives him the gym leader prefix so while it’s not a gym battle he is a gym leader before the champion
I personally love the idea of NPC trainers with starters, it runs home the idea that they've personally been on or are currently on a Pokemon journey just like the player.
Hgss
Minor suggestion, I’d make Volkner’s Rotom have the appropriate form for your starter (Mow for Empoleon, Heat for Torterra and Wash for Infernape) Yeah it didn’t get the appropriate type until Gen V, but still. Good coverage.
how about the fridge form of rotom for torterra?
That’ll really screw over Torterra!
Until people remember how _freaking good_ a Rock type coverage move is for Torterra.
Also with Volkner, to be fair, Pachurisu has won a VGC Worlds title before
@@yang_distributions8891 Fridge would work better offensively but Fire would work because type-chart
Gen 6 definitely has the strongest gym leaders in this scenario
Unless we give everybody Mega Evolution and/or exclude Mega Evolution.
Instead of giving a Blaziken to Flannery, why not give her a Castform with a Sunlight set
4:35 Honestly the Venusaur would actually be a shocking thing to encounter in a good way if that is Erika's Last Pokemon she sends out at you. Be a pretty neat twist.
If every Pokemon gym leader was the last one, my game would crash.
I understand this would break multiple rules, but Flannery's grandpa/uncle/previous gym leader had a Typhlosion, so she should have one. Anime, of course.
"we can't give a legendary to lieutenant serge" pokemon adventures manga: "why not?"
Every time I hear the intro “Greetings PokéFans!” I always reply in my mind: *gReeTinGs pOkéMan*
i see, an actually funny gacha kid. take this award 🥇
thank you for not joking about cookies
I always hear "Greedy Boogiefans!"
Joon July thanks 👁👄👁🥇
Gureetings Pook-e-finds!
11:00 I just love how Chuck is just casually carrying around 225lbs on his shoulders with one hand 😂
28:14 Plus Heatmor used to have a signature move in Fire Lash, but Centiskorch also has it
“Gyrados cannot fly” Legends Arceus Gyrados: I’m speed
This was 2 years ago though
To be fair, there's nothing wrong with giving them starters, especially when you consider that starters are canonically given to new trainers before they start their journey, and likely have been for generations. It's not too much of a stretch to say that the gym leaders who grew up in each region had access to the same starters when they were kids. Even Professor Oak once had a Charmeleon when he was about Ash's age, which implies that he was also given a choice between the three Kanto starters when he first became a licensed trainer. *Even if they don't start their journeys in the same town where a Professor lives, Pokemon transfer via computer is available at just about every single Pokemon Center, and starters can still be found in the wild anyways. They're rare, but not *that* rare.
It’s basically anyone can catch wild starters except the player unless they use island scan
I mean, wally didn't, so... Not all of them did it, probably. And... They can't be find in the wild in any game (Don't counting special places, like friend safari), so... They CAN be *that* rare. At least rare to a extent that I suppose they can't just catch them any time and the professor just doesn't have them to everyone. So It would make sense that the majority of people just use normal pokemon found out there as their starters.
Yeah but just because they got a starter does not mean they got one of the the main starters like charmander squirtle Bulbasaur totodile etc
@mozamioo _ Ash still ends up getting a normal starter, all of them some times
Remember the grass gym leader from gen 4 with a turtwig
Whitney Me: Let’s just give her every pokemon that can learn rollout
I have a more demonic idea. Have it lead with a fast pokemon that knows reflect and light screen. Then miltank. And 4 mons that have extremespeed
Just give her 6 miltanks
@@lisahenry20 no, give her 5 miltanks and 1 lv.1 rattata. (You know where I'm getting at)
well guys beacause whitney is moved from 3rd gym to 8th gym her miltank is not monster anymore beacause you guys can get a fully evolved pokemon
Yass