Exhaust sound 2024 vs 2021: kzhead.info/sun/eLefh8aOgXOaqZ8/bejne.html
@yelistenerАй бұрын
I dont understand how a guy that is in f1 almost 7years gets beaten so hard by rookie
@rinnie4174Ай бұрын
😂
@joshflynn2173Ай бұрын
His dad owns the team what else do u expect😂
@erlinghaaland2268Ай бұрын
@@erlinghaaland2268 Their sponsors are starting to pull their weight though, aramco supposedly making performance demands for stroll / demands to move him to their wec team.
@bo_of3112Ай бұрын
@@bo_of3112 I truly hope he doesn’t get a renewal after this season and maybe daddy stroll can convince sainz to join
@erlinghaaland2268Ай бұрын
@@erlinghaaland2268 That would be great, it would make Aston my favourite team on the grid with no doubt and I am sure that i wouldnt be alone with such opinion.
@jurekgadzinowski2895Ай бұрын
Verdict: Skill issues
@ghostmw8Ай бұрын
Yeah, Suzuka is a real drivers circuit, and it always shows. The cream always comes to the top on these kind of tracks.
@Coen80Ай бұрын
Compared to fernando everybody has skill issues
@werner9643Ай бұрын
@@werner9643lol
@kevinmbangue9226Ай бұрын
@@werner9643🤣🤣🤣🤣sure. He’s had a skill issue for the past decade Had a skill issue beating OCON😂😂😂 AND A ROOKIE😂😂😂😂
@AZBCDEEАй бұрын
@@werner9643how many wins last decade for crylonso?😂😂😂😂
@AZBCDEEАй бұрын
The difference between Alonso and Strolls car is between the seat and the steering wheel
@MiaSanMia_82Ай бұрын
Stroll is over 6ft though. His seat setup must be different like that of Albon or George.
@UrgrannytrannyАй бұрын
@@Urgrannytranny i think he meant the pilot(stroll) is the problem
@ErKilloVIАй бұрын
@@Urgrannytranny I think you should only watch Nascar! I turn left real good!
@tiberiuscx5847Ай бұрын
@@tiberiuscx5847 ?
@GenAvAviationАй бұрын
Macedonia is Greek
@ah__xmrАй бұрын
Alternative Title: Why is Stroll so much slower than Alonso "all the time" Edit : This aged well at the Miami GP
@srisudharsan6115Ай бұрын
ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE (Stroll continues to leave 0.770 in timing sheet) 🗣️🔥🥶👹🔨
@ShivamhunxDАй бұрын
@@ShivamhunxDholy shit good one😂
@justincharles6585Ай бұрын
Because he is simply going for a stroll
@wile123456Ай бұрын
Tbh he outqualified and was ahead of Alonso in Melbourne and in the other races this season he wasn’t far off alonsos pace
@ibraheemh5586Ай бұрын
STroll really isn't a whole lot slower most of the time. He's usually within 2 tenths. But I know you guys don't care about accuracy or the truth, you just wanna talk shit.
@CockMcBallsdddАй бұрын
High downforce setup - Slower in High downforce corners ☠
@mambofeverАй бұрын
I’m starting to think it’s a skill issue…
@c0mplex564Ай бұрын
@c0mplex564 You think?!
@AjayV84Ай бұрын
That was trully weird to watch. All those corners would benefit from it. It's like he is afraid or has 0 confidence in the car.
@WillbrseАй бұрын
Or their high downforce setup is overly draggy. Seems optimised for slow speed corners. It’s curious why they’re running two completely different cars this year. I can only think that this is to help their development program by having twice the data available.
@AdventureByJakeАй бұрын
@@c0mplex564i also ever used the high downforce setup on Gran Turismo 5.😅
@damarfadlan9251Ай бұрын
2:50 Sorry it's 3-1 so far in 2024, not 4-0 because Stroll beat Alonso in Australia Q3 this year. I forgot about it when making this vid.
@yelistenerАй бұрын
Unforgivable. Unsubscribing.
@problemforyouАй бұрын
Understandable!
@alvarorey9308Ай бұрын
⬆️The duality of man⬆️
@ElexicАй бұрын
Just yelistener, why the engine of Alonso is like Honda ( logic ) but the stroll is more like Mercedes for me, can you tell me why ?
@ethanmathiotteАй бұрын
Then you should've gone off stats not off memory dude!
@unthenner5519Ай бұрын
Stroll's team radio in the race is the funniest I've heard in a while, that voice crack at end🤣🤣🤣
@vamositalia4600Ай бұрын
It's so cute as well that he tries to be like his big brother Alonso 🥰🥰
@Coen80Ай бұрын
Its not cute, hes trying to act like kimi or alonso without having the skill backup
@jefferson2214Ай бұрын
@@jefferson2214No he isn’t.
@AJzilllaProАй бұрын
I know, his high pitch also. He sounds like a cartoon. Someone should animate that audio.
@memolano100Ай бұрын
GP2 ENGINE! GP2!
@AKK5IАй бұрын
strolling around the track
@sirmounted8499Ай бұрын
Its like they're in a different category
@R9R1Ай бұрын
jesus christ alonso alone is making lot of money in the championship for aston hes worth everypenny to aston
@RapHaru69HCGameplayАй бұрын
AM with the current pairing is braking even, Alonso is making what Stroll is destroying
@satanswolfАй бұрын
Unfortunately, Aston don't need money, which is why Lawrence throws money away every time he let's his son 'race' the car.
@xhowitisxАй бұрын
last stint in Japan stroll had softs and Alonso had hards , not in a single lap stroll managed to put a lap that was faster than alonso's , and alonso was slowing down to give piastri drs
@ramezehab662Ай бұрын
Because he was fighting everyone you idiot
@TXR_078Ай бұрын
that is just unacceptable
@23-DJАй бұрын
Yeah, even though everyone was saying the hard was the better tire. Softs were atrocious in Japan - because of the high deg. I'm not sure how much information can be gained by this comparison. It's not as big of a deal as you make it out to be. The strat on his side of the garage was pretty perplexing.
@ErickMcNerneyАй бұрын
@@ErickMcNerney they are pretty useless in a race setting because of the deg. on a lap to lap basis they are a lot quicker than hards.
@the4GIVENАй бұрын
Zero pressure to truly perform. Hope he goes to WEC soon.
@ronbelanger4113Ай бұрын
Poor wec
@AugmentedGravityАй бұрын
Don´t undervalue wec like that...
@maximogiachino5085Ай бұрын
he should be in formula 2
@TeamSenkeАй бұрын
As someone who watches other series... no. He needs to retire. The guys in other series are professionals too. Hoping this guy goes anywhere else is disrespectful towards these other series.
@WillbrseАй бұрын
What's the WEC ever done to you?
@Zero_NinetyАй бұрын
The difference between talent and daddy's money
@misawajasonАй бұрын
The difference between Car setup and car set up lol
@joetri1023 күн бұрын
@@joetri10 Or daddy's money
@misawajason23 күн бұрын
@@misawajason I'm going to go with set up, but then i know the sport so i have the advantage
@joetri1023 күн бұрын
@@joetri10 You know the sport so that means you word is the gospel. Got it. Talent has nothing to do with set up then? Years of grinding to be able to find a good set up vs. years of being put in machines because of daddy's money and being told what set up to run. Back to my original statement...the difference between talent and daddy's money.
@misawajason23 күн бұрын
@@misawajason No i know the sport which means i know what i'm talking about over a guy who just spouts about money because it sounds like the correct answer xD.. The concept of the car centers around Fernando, because that's why he's there... They both have very different driving styles... Lance is the struggling one. This is an conversation that's older than time itself and barely anyone who talks really understands this concept and they never want to. Instead of putting time and effort into learning about something, they just default to 'He's BAD!' and think thats enough. I dont understand how you can become a fan of a sport so technical and not give a damn about it at the same time.. It would drive me crazy.
@joetri1023 күн бұрын
Stroll is slower in high speed because he's constantly losing lower gears to get rotation. Alonso is getting the rotation with higher gears which allows him to carry way more speed even though he's on lower downforce. Verdict is Alonso is driving with more front end and lower wing than Stroll is willing to do (most likely do to confidence and pure ability) and the lap times are showing every session
@blenzo8344Ай бұрын
Agree but Stroll seems to struggle with his front tires, like the balance or aero balance is completely different !
@clementmoreno31Ай бұрын
Yep, Alonso always relys on the front axle to feel the car
@backupraceresАй бұрын
Skill issue never explained this beautifully.
@SevenMrTeeАй бұрын
Love these kind of comparison videos dude, Nice work.
@Spartan_117--chiefАй бұрын
Have been waiting for this analysis, thanks!!!
@stevesquad7110Ай бұрын
Suzuka is the ultimate drivers track, Stroll’s Achilles heel.
@ask.repeatАй бұрын
Perez almost on pole? Finally the great drivers are rising to the top 🙄. It's a car and setup track, always has been.
@Malc180sАй бұрын
@@Malc180s Yeah don’t listen to what any of the current or ex-F1 drivers say. You know best.
@ask.repeatАй бұрын
@@ask.repeat Perez truly is an elite driver, you said if mate
@Malc180sАй бұрын
It was. Now it rewards the most stable car.
@barcafan94Ай бұрын
@@Malc180s DELULU
@AugmentedGravityАй бұрын
Great comparison, really easy to visually see how much Stroll is struggling with wrestling the wheel vs Alonso's smoother inputs 🏆
@MathewBT81Ай бұрын
Does this mean that while Alonso considers his car as a tool to get the job done, Stroll spends his time battling against his car, as if he thought it was this which would prevent him to get points?
@oscaraurelio8869Ай бұрын
@@oscaraurelio8869no
@JuTakiiАй бұрын
2:50 actually stroll beat alonso in qualifying in melbourne this year. It is 3-1 so far.
@omerozgorАй бұрын
Oh you’re right Alonso went wide or something.
@durodesduvo8424Ай бұрын
Oh damn, I forgot about it. My memory sucks sometimes.
@yelistenerАй бұрын
@@yelistenerits fine ur videos are epic
@Magic_AlonsoАй бұрын
@@yelistenerAny chance of a comparison between stroll and Alonso in Monza quali last year? believe there was like an 8 tenth gap between them in Q1
@_extttАй бұрын
Alonso damaged his car by going wide but it was still a terrible qualifying by Stroll. He qualified behind even Tsunoda.
@TheAYM91Ай бұрын
The answer is in the question
@jean.l4681Ай бұрын
Difference between given seat and earned seat.
@yezzytatta8035Ай бұрын
It just shows how Alonso is the GOAT
@davezhu7651Ай бұрын
Stroll is actually fast when on his day, he has a pole position in the wet, but he never seemed to have fully understood how to drive these ground effect cars.
@user-ne3rb8ps8jАй бұрын
Feels similar to Daniel, who had much better success before the current ground effect era
@vgersterАй бұрын
A higher downforce rear wing doesn't affect the top speed as much in a DRS straight tho Given Alonso likes understeer it's quite possible that Lance ran a much higher front-wing.
@_mevt.33Ай бұрын
When will they fire the windowlicker
@_mevt.33Ай бұрын
Honestly Stroll's lap is not bad. It's just that Alonso is still very quick and there're a lot of small things which he does better and that in the course of a lap add up to the final deficit. Kids in the comments saying Stroll is a bad driver have no idea how good someone like Alonso is.
@mattiabranchini7347Ай бұрын
This is F1 mate. There's no room for drivers who aren't near Alonso's level.
@ajw1045Ай бұрын
@@ajw1045 Considering just two or three of the current drivers are near/on Alonso's level I'd say there's some room, it's just that Stroll is not even near, he is miles away.
@STheRadiАй бұрын
Stroll is legit bad, they're better drivers on the sidelines
@noobednatherium4082Ай бұрын
@@ajw1045Imo just Ham, Ver, Lec, Nor, Rus, Sai are close for worse or better to Alonso's level. That would mean we'd have F1 races with 7 drivers. I don't really see the point of it. It's true though that probably there're rookies with more potential than Stroll.
@mattiabranchini7347Ай бұрын
@@mattiabranchini7347Ocon was much closer to Alonso when they were teammates. Stroll is down there with Sergeant and Zhou in the conversation for worst driver currently racing.
@takecourage92Ай бұрын
Yes he's plainly slower than Alonso, but this is clearly an issue with setup. Too much downforce and the suspension wasn't set up to cope with it, the car is bumping all over the place in highspeed corners. And to top it off, the extra stiffness made it worse in slow corners as well. Yeah, Stroll isn't as fast generally, but that car wasn't set up well. Not easy to drive it like that and make no mistakes, especially when you're under pressure. It's easy to sit at home and just sh-t on somebody.
@MyRealNameАй бұрын
You're correct, you have to overdrive the car to make it perform. Just like last year when Sainz and Leclerc kept running off track at times, they had to over drive the car to be competitive. That's what casuals don't understand
@justincharles6585Ай бұрын
How can you see if the car is bottoming out from an onboard, with the audio coming from both sides? There is no major steering input differences other than driving style. Worse in slow speed corners base on what? The hairpin? Where Stroll braked earlier but clearly less compared to Alonso..
@lorenzorubino2195Ай бұрын
@@lorenzorubino2195 Who mentioned bottoming out? Only you did. Worse in slow speed corners based on I have eyes and I can see and understand what I see. If you can't, your problem, don't go crazy here. The whole onboard from Stroll is shakier, and that's a fact. It's shakier because you have to make the car stiffer to take the extra downforce to avoid bottoming out and that's a compromise in itself. "Where Stroll braked earlier but clearly less compared to Alonso.." - lmfao :)
@MyRealNameАй бұрын
It's also a setup they no doubt got pushed to cause stroll couldn't get the hang of the circuit and needed a bit more confidence so more downforce on the car.
@dco1019Ай бұрын
@@MyRealName I assumed that with the "suspension wasn't set up to cope with it" you meant that the car was bottoming out. The fact that you laugh about my phrase makes it clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry if I sounded aggressive, I was really interested in seeing if there was a technical view behind your first comment.
@lorenzorubino2195Ай бұрын
Great video
@eliasroblesrodriguez199923 күн бұрын
Nice video. Just out of curiosity , what did You blur out there? An add?
@mightyOmouseАй бұрын
He wants us to focus on the speedometer.
@eraserrxАй бұрын
Copywrite bro
@jonathanking8429Ай бұрын
@@jonathanking8429not exactly, as the footage has the F1TV logo and all
@joaquingonzalez834Ай бұрын
These are so good!
@stocksunderthehoodАй бұрын
Nice video. It's so frustrating when teams don't reveal the real braking forces.
@fleabenderАй бұрын
It's not just the higher downforce that slowed Stroll down but also the weight of daddysmoney and the abundand luck of talent.
@rwo540228 күн бұрын
wow this put things on perspective, altho eating 300ms each sector, you can see its just a bit of a brake and the setup, stroll looks very competitive in my eyes, of course you need more than that on f1
@SillyMonkeysLikeApples29 күн бұрын
You have a double world champion racing driver (who won titles against Schumacher), and just a very good racing driver (none of us writhing here would never be even close to Stroll's driving skills, just because he is in racing for 20 years, with unlimited budget), so what is exactly unusual or weird?
@skela098Ай бұрын
I picture fat men criticizing footballers, same idea
@pspcowАй бұрын
I would outperform Lance with just 1 month of intense training/driving and i'm just a 2 times regional kart italian champion.
@barbagiggia23 күн бұрын
Alonso aracın ön tarafının yol tutuşunu kaybetmeden dönüyor virajları ama stoll kaybediyor yol tutuşu. Özellikle ilk sektör, birbirini takip eden virajlarda çok belli. Alonso beklemiyor dönmek için. Fren noktasında o kadar güzel konumlandırıyor ki aracı virajı gaz vererek dönüyor. Bu yeni kurallar gereği zaten böyle kullanmak lazım. Adam işi çok iyi biliyor.
@yatmanilyas154Ай бұрын
How about the steering wheel vibration? I see that Stroll's wheel vibrates more in curves, bad handling?
@shaker2321Ай бұрын
Crazy how small 0.7 seconds are.
@eulogp9888Ай бұрын
it's his absolute favourite track
@8tonystark8Ай бұрын
"Its in the different category!" Miyuki Shiba to Lance Stroll: GP2 ENGINE! GP2 ENGINE! 😂
@damarfadlan9251Ай бұрын
Even with a higher downforce setup he got absolutely railed in sector 1, Stroll never fails to entertain
@williamhobbs4202Ай бұрын
how do you know what setup do they use?
@nmelol23 күн бұрын
@@nmelol Stroll mentioned it in an interview after the race, saying his higher downforce setup meant his straight line speed was awful
@williamhobbs420223 күн бұрын
The gap is very low but there is 14 place difference
@Dark-Fire188 күн бұрын
Looks like Stroll's setup was bad too though. I can see lots of understeer. To me this looks like they've chucked on a whole load of downforce at the rear without matching it at the front. Then of course there's the obvious skill gap, but I can definitely see an Understeering Aston on the left.
@failedracers4452Ай бұрын
Btw, the straight line speed difference isn't that big. And it's not just because of the way Stroll exited corners.
@GD_HdFАй бұрын
Yeah, and to be fair that was Alonso's 6th or so qualifying run and a masterpiece of a lap
@amvalkyrie6496Ай бұрын
Stroll was trying new car updates this week, that's why
@pencil6703Ай бұрын
@@amvalkyrie6496That was Fernando’s Q1 lap mate. His first one actually as he only did a single attempt in Q1.
@MrThedestroy3rАй бұрын
@@pencil6703Also Fernando. Both were on identical cars. Stroll got the updates in FP1 and Fernando in FP3, so he had a full session less to try them.
@MrThedestroy3rАй бұрын
Remember, Stroll was very close to Vettel.
@SweetFlexZАй бұрын
Speaks more about Seb.
@lukavujeva6584Ай бұрын
He wasn’t really. Vettel was in Q3 in 2022 while Stroll was 19th.
@paperplane-db8qf23 күн бұрын
@@lukavujeva6584and what does Alonso losing to Ocon (who was destroyed by Ricciardo, Perez and beaten by Gasly) say about him?
@paperplane-db8qf23 күн бұрын
@@paperplane-db8qf you are not serious now!!? With Alonso having how many PU and gearbox retirements? Alonso was 0.220 sec faster on average in qualifying and out-qualified Ocon. 15-7 was the fastest lap for Alo in the race, while the race result was 8-8. The issue was that Fernando had several key mechanical failures where he lost 30-40 points relative to Ocon, and almost every time such retirement occurred, he was supposed to gain good points and was in front of Ocon. If just 1/4 of those unlucky retirements didn't happen, he would have more points than Ocon at the end of the season. Simply put, those two do not fit into the same sentence. It’s like thinking that 16 GB of Ram on Windows or Android is faster than 12 of Apple.
@lukavujeva658423 күн бұрын
Como em esportes de velocidade, décimos, centésimo fazem total diferença!
@celo1390Ай бұрын
Song? Its fire!
@user-uf4bb5rw7hАй бұрын
Song name: qsebenois-we good
@lovrinjo685Ай бұрын
He’s always been so hack and slash with his steering wheel - unbelievable to think he was on a higher downforce set up with the amount of adjustments he makes during a corner, just pick a direction dude!
@fotbitr9052Ай бұрын
What I see here is that stroll is throwing the car around vs alonso is directing it, alonso is just smooth in all his inputs vs stroll who’s just going for it, throwing the car around
@chefr6210Ай бұрын
*me sitting behind a computer never even set foot on a race track in my life* me: fucking traaash
@ThePointlessBox_24 күн бұрын
I don't think stroll locked up at the hairpin. I believe his brakes were smoking. I believe he does more warmup with brakes on the outlap so at a low speed corner the brakes didn't have enough air through them
@muhammadibrahim9704Ай бұрын
This video title is cold AF. 😂
@mitchdaytonam3Ай бұрын
The difference between the cars wasn't as simple as mere setup differences. Stroll's car had "upgrades" and the team hadn't figured out how to set up the car to work with them yet. Compare this to their previous shared quali sessions that year and you can easily tell that their gap isn't actually this big. Stroll did beat Alonso before after all, and not just in the Australia Q3 session where Alonso had damage (which was Alonso's own fault). Last year, their average quali gap was on the larger side of the grid, but still not the biggest or among the biggest 3.
@PsychedeliKompot29 күн бұрын
Sometimes you get a gp2 engine and others you get a gp2 driver
@benjaminleparlier7975Ай бұрын
Backgroubd music at the start?
@abdullahchaudhry2990Ай бұрын
It could be interesting if they had put high downforce setup for nando
@pietrekk1Ай бұрын
It definitely looks way closer onboard than the 7 tenths. I thought it would be a bigger difference
@judgedrew2076Ай бұрын
because alonso is new lawrence stroll son
@DendyaryadiАй бұрын
İncredible content!!
@muddomania28 күн бұрын
It was actually surprising to me just how close they were in the middle sector all the way through. Even that hairpin lockup didn't hurt Stroll that badly compared to Alonso according to this comparison. He just lost so much in the first sector and SO much in the final chicane.
@GaryWagersАй бұрын
Just curious, why did you blur the video on the back straight? Did some Alonso groupies flash their boobs there or something? 😂 Great video as always mate, keep it up!
@svitiiАй бұрын
Damn there is a big difference between high And low downforce setup... Why did stroll choose the high downforce setup with big straights like this?
@super_street_racer5094Ай бұрын
Only I am seeing, that stroll sometimes have brake and throttle applied on the same time?
@MajerkoxАй бұрын
Man stroll is sawing at that wheel the whole time. Alonso is so much more stable
@reversemotozukiАй бұрын
I think the main reason is that Alonso has done more miles in an F1 car than most people have in their road cars. And Stroll has a rich daddy.
@marksimmonds6364Ай бұрын
1:02. Stroll braked just starting the long curve, which killed his speed by 10 km/h and 0.2 seconds
@rodrigoarancibia197528 күн бұрын
Because he is lance stroll and he is Fernando Alonso.
@AugmentedGravityАй бұрын
Reason: Talent
@vikrantverma112529 күн бұрын
That's the difference between a champion and daddy's son.
@jericslater88927 күн бұрын
Because one has a very uncommon gift and the other is the son of the owner.
@pharmika26 күн бұрын
Can you compare this year's Aston with last year's?
@israeljoao5532Ай бұрын
Yes.
@michaellavery489926 күн бұрын
Stroll has a solid racing career ahead of him - just not in F1. He's obviously very competent, rarely ends up in tangles during the race and is generally quite reliable, but he's just missing that final 1% of pace and edge. He'll be great in WEC or something similar.
@jcooper_Ай бұрын
He has terrible awareness and provoked insane accidents because of this. The one he had with Fernando 2 years ago was an airplane crash.
@quentinhirschfeld9382Ай бұрын
you can see stroll losing speed in the straights, it was a setup issue. He had a better exit into the straight at the start of the vid than fernando did and still came out of the straight behind him
@jershwaaАй бұрын
This Anolso rookie looks definitely like the better driver here, lots of experience given his age, this guy will definitely have an eventful career ahead of him, maybe even a couple of championships under his belt one day 😂😂😂
@JohnWikuАй бұрын
I thought in this regulation you can get away with less downforce wings as more downforce are generated by the floor
@irgiefarras2159Ай бұрын
You can still get more downforce with more wing. There hasn't been a regulated limit on max downforce.
@Appletank8Ай бұрын
At 1:48 Stroll is going 216 KMH at 10389 RMP in 5. gear, and Alonzo is 211 KMH at 11641 RPM in 5. gear, seems like a big difference in gear ratio ? What am I missing ?
@carstenbech775728 күн бұрын
Alonso has top talent and keeps making efforts.
@powerjian8193Ай бұрын
They have different colored buttons on their steering wheel
@johannesvillmannАй бұрын
Comparison between kite with fighter jet would be more closer than this
@valtteri_its_jamesАй бұрын
1:43 was this a micro lockup or brake smoke from overheating?
@isaacsanchez7317Ай бұрын
Its the brakes u can see it from the front right aswell, but kinda weird that his brakes would be that hot after the whole first sector which uses them very little
@duffmantm5440Ай бұрын
@@duffmantm5440 exactly what i was thinking, really weird
@isaacsanchez7317Ай бұрын
As you can see in the Video, Stroll had ignited a brake disc in T11. The smoke coming out isn't a lock up as you can see the tyre spinning and not stopping. I am not defending him, I love Fernando and he is my favourite Driver, but stroll had a problem during braking as you can see the smoke coming out.
@nachoobiol7988Ай бұрын
I’m racing go-karts myself sometimes, and the track’s record holder is much quicker than me, I wish I could the telemetry data comparison to see where he’s gaining on me 😅 To me it seems impossible to go any quicker.
@10MasterMАй бұрын
Don´t even need to see the video to answer that question... Paying driver, thats the answer. As long as F1 owners allow this to happen there will always be someone to take a seat for a potencial F1 driver.
@satanikosdevilАй бұрын
the fact that he didnt even care after this race and basically said "tough day.. meh" says it all. even if he could be fast, he doesnt care enough to be.
@MattMajcanАй бұрын
Stroll probably thought that he can have almost similar performance like went was with Vettel
@kilierloopАй бұрын
Stroll discovered why Vettel got annihilated by Leclerc despite 4 extra years of experience at Ferrari, and why Alonso was competitive with Norris & Ocon despite having infinite levels of bad luck!
@alvarorey9308Ай бұрын
@@alvarorey9308 Vettel also got beaten by Ricciardo in 2014. No blown diffuser no party.
@barcafan94Ай бұрын
Stroll was P19 in Suzuka when Vettel was in Q3. Vettel just checked out after he announced his retirement but still scored more than double his points.
@paperplane-db8qf23 күн бұрын
@@alvarorey9308Alonso didn’t have bad luck in 2021 and was only a few points ahead of Ocon lmao. Alonso just an Overrated fraud who lost to midfield teammates and a rookie
@paperplane-db8qf23 күн бұрын
@@paperplane-db8qf If Alonso is an "overrated fraud" than how does Vettel look that the gap between him and Raikkonen and Stroll than Alonso did!
@alvarorey930823 күн бұрын
Simple answer is that Alonso has talent, while Stroll only has money. Money can get you a seat you don’t deserve, AND keep you there, but that’s it.
@Ding_Bat27 күн бұрын
Alonso Sainz would be such a good 2025 pair.
@mashedpotatoes5276Ай бұрын
because he was just strolling along
@marinekong235Ай бұрын
Stroll has always had a very nervousness steering wheel. He has to keep it much steadier
@mishahendriks3020Ай бұрын
“We value his technical knowledge.” Sets up the car high downforce and is then slow in the advantage he’s supposed to have with said set up. Be technical as he may, he’s still slow.
@buggus003422 күн бұрын
良い動画です！
@user-pl1dk4ry4sАй бұрын
Alonso is a Suzuki master. There's no shame losing the head to head. However, no excuse to be out in q1
@jolttsp27 күн бұрын
How does alonsos car sound much better? Is it exhaust mic?
@BlackearbaiyaАй бұрын
I don't think he had that high down force setup. He was indeed second in race in terms of max speed with 333km/h. He shouldn't blame the car that much. Alonso is doing miracles with it but that doesn't mean the other one isn't lacking performance....
@luisanvicenteАй бұрын
That line through turn 6😂😂😂patethic
@penkkaaja95Ай бұрын
Skills
@iamkuroma5405Ай бұрын
Alonso looks so much smoother on the steering wheel.
@RR-xu5xk26 күн бұрын
Alonso is a legend... stroll, nosomuch
@tonymccomish1506Ай бұрын
I quote Alonso 'Stroll is a potential future world champion' (February 2023)...are we saying Alonso doesn't know what he's talking about?
@davissi23 күн бұрын
stroll is not so bad driver . alonso is just great . if you have ever played racing sim, only 0.8 second slower than top of the world is not bad time
Exhaust sound 2024 vs 2021: kzhead.info/sun/eLefh8aOgXOaqZ8/bejne.html
I dont understand how a guy that is in f1 almost 7years gets beaten so hard by rookie
😂
His dad owns the team what else do u expect😂
@@erlinghaaland2268 Their sponsors are starting to pull their weight though, aramco supposedly making performance demands for stroll / demands to move him to their wec team.
@@bo_of3112 I truly hope he doesn’t get a renewal after this season and maybe daddy stroll can convince sainz to join
@@erlinghaaland2268 That would be great, it would make Aston my favourite team on the grid with no doubt and I am sure that i wouldnt be alone with such opinion.
Verdict: Skill issues
Yeah, Suzuka is a real drivers circuit, and it always shows. The cream always comes to the top on these kind of tracks.
Compared to fernando everybody has skill issues
@@werner9643lol
@@werner9643🤣🤣🤣🤣sure. He’s had a skill issue for the past decade Had a skill issue beating OCON😂😂😂 AND A ROOKIE😂😂😂😂
@@werner9643how many wins last decade for crylonso?😂😂😂😂
The difference between Alonso and Strolls car is between the seat and the steering wheel
Stroll is over 6ft though. His seat setup must be different like that of Albon or George.
@@Urgrannytranny i think he meant the pilot(stroll) is the problem
@@Urgrannytranny I think you should only watch Nascar! I turn left real good!
@@tiberiuscx5847 ?
Macedonia is Greek
Alternative Title: Why is Stroll so much slower than Alonso "all the time" Edit : This aged well at the Miami GP
ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE (Stroll continues to leave 0.770 in timing sheet) 🗣️🔥🥶👹🔨
@@ShivamhunxDholy shit good one😂
Because he is simply going for a stroll
Tbh he outqualified and was ahead of Alonso in Melbourne and in the other races this season he wasn’t far off alonsos pace
STroll really isn't a whole lot slower most of the time. He's usually within 2 tenths. But I know you guys don't care about accuracy or the truth, you just wanna talk shit.
High downforce setup - Slower in High downforce corners ☠
I’m starting to think it’s a skill issue…
@c0mplex564 You think?!
That was trully weird to watch. All those corners would benefit from it. It's like he is afraid or has 0 confidence in the car.
Or their high downforce setup is overly draggy. Seems optimised for slow speed corners. It’s curious why they’re running two completely different cars this year. I can only think that this is to help their development program by having twice the data available.
@@c0mplex564i also ever used the high downforce setup on Gran Turismo 5.😅
2:50 Sorry it's 3-1 so far in 2024, not 4-0 because Stroll beat Alonso in Australia Q3 this year. I forgot about it when making this vid.
Unforgivable. Unsubscribing.
Understandable!
⬆️The duality of man⬆️
Just yelistener, why the engine of Alonso is like Honda ( logic ) but the stroll is more like Mercedes for me, can you tell me why ?
Then you should've gone off stats not off memory dude!
Stroll's team radio in the race is the funniest I've heard in a while, that voice crack at end🤣🤣🤣
It's so cute as well that he tries to be like his big brother Alonso 🥰🥰
Its not cute, hes trying to act like kimi or alonso without having the skill backup
@@jefferson2214No he isn’t.
I know, his high pitch also. He sounds like a cartoon. Someone should animate that audio.
GP2 ENGINE! GP2!
strolling around the track
Its like they're in a different category
jesus christ alonso alone is making lot of money in the championship for aston hes worth everypenny to aston
AM with the current pairing is braking even, Alonso is making what Stroll is destroying
Unfortunately, Aston don't need money, which is why Lawrence throws money away every time he let's his son 'race' the car.
last stint in Japan stroll had softs and Alonso had hards , not in a single lap stroll managed to put a lap that was faster than alonso's , and alonso was slowing down to give piastri drs
Because he was fighting everyone you idiot
that is just unacceptable
Yeah, even though everyone was saying the hard was the better tire. Softs were atrocious in Japan - because of the high deg. I'm not sure how much information can be gained by this comparison. It's not as big of a deal as you make it out to be. The strat on his side of the garage was pretty perplexing.
@@ErickMcNerney they are pretty useless in a race setting because of the deg. on a lap to lap basis they are a lot quicker than hards.
Zero pressure to truly perform. Hope he goes to WEC soon.
Poor wec
Don´t undervalue wec like that...
he should be in formula 2
As someone who watches other series... no. He needs to retire. The guys in other series are professionals too. Hoping this guy goes anywhere else is disrespectful towards these other series.
What's the WEC ever done to you?
The difference between talent and daddy's money
The difference between Car setup and car set up lol
@@joetri10 Or daddy's money
@@misawajason I'm going to go with set up, but then i know the sport so i have the advantage
@@joetri10 You know the sport so that means you word is the gospel. Got it. Talent has nothing to do with set up then? Years of grinding to be able to find a good set up vs. years of being put in machines because of daddy's money and being told what set up to run. Back to my original statement...the difference between talent and daddy's money.
@@misawajason No i know the sport which means i know what i'm talking about over a guy who just spouts about money because it sounds like the correct answer xD.. The concept of the car centers around Fernando, because that's why he's there... They both have very different driving styles... Lance is the struggling one. This is an conversation that's older than time itself and barely anyone who talks really understands this concept and they never want to. Instead of putting time and effort into learning about something, they just default to 'He's BAD!' and think thats enough. I dont understand how you can become a fan of a sport so technical and not give a damn about it at the same time.. It would drive me crazy.
Stroll is slower in high speed because he's constantly losing lower gears to get rotation. Alonso is getting the rotation with higher gears which allows him to carry way more speed even though he's on lower downforce. Verdict is Alonso is driving with more front end and lower wing than Stroll is willing to do (most likely do to confidence and pure ability) and the lap times are showing every session
Agree but Stroll seems to struggle with his front tires, like the balance or aero balance is completely different !
Yep, Alonso always relys on the front axle to feel the car
Skill issue never explained this beautifully.
Love these kind of comparison videos dude, Nice work.
Have been waiting for this analysis, thanks!!!
Suzuka is the ultimate drivers track, Stroll’s Achilles heel.
Perez almost on pole? Finally the great drivers are rising to the top 🙄. It's a car and setup track, always has been.
@@Malc180s Yeah don’t listen to what any of the current or ex-F1 drivers say. You know best.
@@ask.repeat Perez truly is an elite driver, you said if mate
It was. Now it rewards the most stable car.
@@Malc180s DELULU
Great comparison, really easy to visually see how much Stroll is struggling with wrestling the wheel vs Alonso's smoother inputs 🏆
Does this mean that while Alonso considers his car as a tool to get the job done, Stroll spends his time battling against his car, as if he thought it was this which would prevent him to get points?
@@oscaraurelio8869no
2:50 actually stroll beat alonso in qualifying in melbourne this year. It is 3-1 so far.
Oh you’re right Alonso went wide or something.
Oh damn, I forgot about it. My memory sucks sometimes.
@@yelistenerits fine ur videos are epic
@@yelistenerAny chance of a comparison between stroll and Alonso in Monza quali last year? believe there was like an 8 tenth gap between them in Q1
Alonso damaged his car by going wide but it was still a terrible qualifying by Stroll. He qualified behind even Tsunoda.
The answer is in the question
Difference between given seat and earned seat.
It just shows how Alonso is the GOAT
Stroll is actually fast when on his day, he has a pole position in the wet, but he never seemed to have fully understood how to drive these ground effect cars.
Feels similar to Daniel, who had much better success before the current ground effect era
A higher downforce rear wing doesn't affect the top speed as much in a DRS straight tho Given Alonso likes understeer it's quite possible that Lance ran a much higher front-wing.
When will they fire the windowlicker
Honestly Stroll's lap is not bad. It's just that Alonso is still very quick and there're a lot of small things which he does better and that in the course of a lap add up to the final deficit. Kids in the comments saying Stroll is a bad driver have no idea how good someone like Alonso is.
This is F1 mate. There's no room for drivers who aren't near Alonso's level.
@@ajw1045 Considering just two or three of the current drivers are near/on Alonso's level I'd say there's some room, it's just that Stroll is not even near, he is miles away.
Stroll is legit bad, they're better drivers on the sidelines
@@ajw1045Imo just Ham, Ver, Lec, Nor, Rus, Sai are close for worse or better to Alonso's level. That would mean we'd have F1 races with 7 drivers. I don't really see the point of it. It's true though that probably there're rookies with more potential than Stroll.
@@mattiabranchini7347Ocon was much closer to Alonso when they were teammates. Stroll is down there with Sergeant and Zhou in the conversation for worst driver currently racing.
Yes he's plainly slower than Alonso, but this is clearly an issue with setup. Too much downforce and the suspension wasn't set up to cope with it, the car is bumping all over the place in highspeed corners. And to top it off, the extra stiffness made it worse in slow corners as well. Yeah, Stroll isn't as fast generally, but that car wasn't set up well. Not easy to drive it like that and make no mistakes, especially when you're under pressure. It's easy to sit at home and just sh-t on somebody.
You're correct, you have to overdrive the car to make it perform. Just like last year when Sainz and Leclerc kept running off track at times, they had to over drive the car to be competitive. That's what casuals don't understand
How can you see if the car is bottoming out from an onboard, with the audio coming from both sides? There is no major steering input differences other than driving style. Worse in slow speed corners base on what? The hairpin? Where Stroll braked earlier but clearly less compared to Alonso..
@@lorenzorubino2195 Who mentioned bottoming out? Only you did. Worse in slow speed corners based on I have eyes and I can see and understand what I see. If you can't, your problem, don't go crazy here. The whole onboard from Stroll is shakier, and that's a fact. It's shakier because you have to make the car stiffer to take the extra downforce to avoid bottoming out and that's a compromise in itself. "Where Stroll braked earlier but clearly less compared to Alonso.." - lmfao :)
It's also a setup they no doubt got pushed to cause stroll couldn't get the hang of the circuit and needed a bit more confidence so more downforce on the car.
@@MyRealName I assumed that with the "suspension wasn't set up to cope with it" you meant that the car was bottoming out. The fact that you laugh about my phrase makes it clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry if I sounded aggressive, I was really interested in seeing if there was a technical view behind your first comment.
Great video
Nice video. Just out of curiosity , what did You blur out there? An add?
He wants us to focus on the speedometer.
Copywrite bro
@@jonathanking8429not exactly, as the footage has the F1TV logo and all
These are so good!
Nice video. It's so frustrating when teams don't reveal the real braking forces.
It's not just the higher downforce that slowed Stroll down but also the weight of daddysmoney and the abundand luck of talent.
wow this put things on perspective, altho eating 300ms each sector, you can see its just a bit of a brake and the setup, stroll looks very competitive in my eyes, of course you need more than that on f1
You have a double world champion racing driver (who won titles against Schumacher), and just a very good racing driver (none of us writhing here would never be even close to Stroll's driving skills, just because he is in racing for 20 years, with unlimited budget), so what is exactly unusual or weird?
I picture fat men criticizing footballers, same idea
I would outperform Lance with just 1 month of intense training/driving and i'm just a 2 times regional kart italian champion.
Alonso aracın ön tarafının yol tutuşunu kaybetmeden dönüyor virajları ama stoll kaybediyor yol tutuşu. Özellikle ilk sektör, birbirini takip eden virajlarda çok belli. Alonso beklemiyor dönmek için. Fren noktasında o kadar güzel konumlandırıyor ki aracı virajı gaz vererek dönüyor. Bu yeni kurallar gereği zaten böyle kullanmak lazım. Adam işi çok iyi biliyor.
How about the steering wheel vibration? I see that Stroll's wheel vibrates more in curves, bad handling?
Crazy how small 0.7 seconds are.
it's his absolute favourite track
"Its in the different category!" Miyuki Shiba to Lance Stroll: GP2 ENGINE! GP2 ENGINE! 😂
Even with a higher downforce setup he got absolutely railed in sector 1, Stroll never fails to entertain
how do you know what setup do they use?
@@nmelol Stroll mentioned it in an interview after the race, saying his higher downforce setup meant his straight line speed was awful
The gap is very low but there is 14 place difference
Looks like Stroll's setup was bad too though. I can see lots of understeer. To me this looks like they've chucked on a whole load of downforce at the rear without matching it at the front. Then of course there's the obvious skill gap, but I can definitely see an Understeering Aston on the left.
Btw, the straight line speed difference isn't that big. And it's not just because of the way Stroll exited corners.
Yeah, and to be fair that was Alonso's 6th or so qualifying run and a masterpiece of a lap
Stroll was trying new car updates this week, that's why
@@amvalkyrie6496That was Fernando’s Q1 lap mate. His first one actually as he only did a single attempt in Q1.
@@pencil6703Also Fernando. Both were on identical cars. Stroll got the updates in FP1 and Fernando in FP3, so he had a full session less to try them.
Remember, Stroll was very close to Vettel.
Speaks more about Seb.
He wasn’t really. Vettel was in Q3 in 2022 while Stroll was 19th.
@@lukavujeva6584and what does Alonso losing to Ocon (who was destroyed by Ricciardo, Perez and beaten by Gasly) say about him?
@@paperplane-db8qf you are not serious now!!? With Alonso having how many PU and gearbox retirements? Alonso was 0.220 sec faster on average in qualifying and out-qualified Ocon. 15-7 was the fastest lap for Alo in the race, while the race result was 8-8. The issue was that Fernando had several key mechanical failures where he lost 30-40 points relative to Ocon, and almost every time such retirement occurred, he was supposed to gain good points and was in front of Ocon. If just 1/4 of those unlucky retirements didn't happen, he would have more points than Ocon at the end of the season. Simply put, those two do not fit into the same sentence. It’s like thinking that 16 GB of Ram on Windows or Android is faster than 12 of Apple.
Como em esportes de velocidade, décimos, centésimo fazem total diferença!
Song? Its fire!
Song name: qsebenois-we good
He’s always been so hack and slash with his steering wheel - unbelievable to think he was on a higher downforce set up with the amount of adjustments he makes during a corner, just pick a direction dude!
What I see here is that stroll is throwing the car around vs alonso is directing it, alonso is just smooth in all his inputs vs stroll who’s just going for it, throwing the car around
*me sitting behind a computer never even set foot on a race track in my life* me: fucking traaash
I don't think stroll locked up at the hairpin. I believe his brakes were smoking. I believe he does more warmup with brakes on the outlap so at a low speed corner the brakes didn't have enough air through them
This video title is cold AF. 😂
The difference between the cars wasn't as simple as mere setup differences. Stroll's car had "upgrades" and the team hadn't figured out how to set up the car to work with them yet. Compare this to their previous shared quali sessions that year and you can easily tell that their gap isn't actually this big. Stroll did beat Alonso before after all, and not just in the Australia Q3 session where Alonso had damage (which was Alonso's own fault). Last year, their average quali gap was on the larger side of the grid, but still not the biggest or among the biggest 3.
Sometimes you get a gp2 engine and others you get a gp2 driver
Backgroubd music at the start?
It could be interesting if they had put high downforce setup for nando
It definitely looks way closer onboard than the 7 tenths. I thought it would be a bigger difference
because alonso is new lawrence stroll son
İncredible content!!
It was actually surprising to me just how close they were in the middle sector all the way through. Even that hairpin lockup didn't hurt Stroll that badly compared to Alonso according to this comparison. He just lost so much in the first sector and SO much in the final chicane.
Just curious, why did you blur the video on the back straight? Did some Alonso groupies flash their boobs there or something? 😂 Great video as always mate, keep it up!
Damn there is a big difference between high And low downforce setup... Why did stroll choose the high downforce setup with big straights like this?
Only I am seeing, that stroll sometimes have brake and throttle applied on the same time?
Man stroll is sawing at that wheel the whole time. Alonso is so much more stable
I think the main reason is that Alonso has done more miles in an F1 car than most people have in their road cars. And Stroll has a rich daddy.
1:02. Stroll braked just starting the long curve, which killed his speed by 10 km/h and 0.2 seconds
Because he is lance stroll and he is Fernando Alonso.
Reason: Talent
That's the difference between a champion and daddy's son.
Because one has a very uncommon gift and the other is the son of the owner.
Can you compare this year's Aston with last year's?
Yes.
Stroll has a solid racing career ahead of him - just not in F1. He's obviously very competent, rarely ends up in tangles during the race and is generally quite reliable, but he's just missing that final 1% of pace and edge. He'll be great in WEC or something similar.
He has terrible awareness and provoked insane accidents because of this. The one he had with Fernando 2 years ago was an airplane crash.
you can see stroll losing speed in the straights, it was a setup issue. He had a better exit into the straight at the start of the vid than fernando did and still came out of the straight behind him
This Anolso rookie looks definitely like the better driver here, lots of experience given his age, this guy will definitely have an eventful career ahead of him, maybe even a couple of championships under his belt one day 😂😂😂
I thought in this regulation you can get away with less downforce wings as more downforce are generated by the floor
You can still get more downforce with more wing. There hasn't been a regulated limit on max downforce.
At 1:48 Stroll is going 216 KMH at 10389 RMP in 5. gear, and Alonzo is 211 KMH at 11641 RPM in 5. gear, seems like a big difference in gear ratio ? What am I missing ?
Alonso has top talent and keeps making efforts.
They have different colored buttons on their steering wheel
Comparison between kite with fighter jet would be more closer than this
1:43 was this a micro lockup or brake smoke from overheating?
Its the brakes u can see it from the front right aswell, but kinda weird that his brakes would be that hot after the whole first sector which uses them very little
@@duffmantm5440 exactly what i was thinking, really weird
As you can see in the Video, Stroll had ignited a brake disc in T11. The smoke coming out isn't a lock up as you can see the tyre spinning and not stopping. I am not defending him, I love Fernando and he is my favourite Driver, but stroll had a problem during braking as you can see the smoke coming out.
I’m racing go-karts myself sometimes, and the track’s record holder is much quicker than me, I wish I could the telemetry data comparison to see where he’s gaining on me 😅 To me it seems impossible to go any quicker.
Don´t even need to see the video to answer that question... Paying driver, thats the answer. As long as F1 owners allow this to happen there will always be someone to take a seat for a potencial F1 driver.
the fact that he didnt even care after this race and basically said "tough day.. meh" says it all. even if he could be fast, he doesnt care enough to be.
Stroll probably thought that he can have almost similar performance like went was with Vettel
Stroll discovered why Vettel got annihilated by Leclerc despite 4 extra years of experience at Ferrari, and why Alonso was competitive with Norris & Ocon despite having infinite levels of bad luck!
@@alvarorey9308 Vettel also got beaten by Ricciardo in 2014. No blown diffuser no party.
Stroll was P19 in Suzuka when Vettel was in Q3. Vettel just checked out after he announced his retirement but still scored more than double his points.
@@alvarorey9308Alonso didn’t have bad luck in 2021 and was only a few points ahead of Ocon lmao. Alonso just an Overrated fraud who lost to midfield teammates and a rookie
@@paperplane-db8qf If Alonso is an "overrated fraud" than how does Vettel look that the gap between him and Raikkonen and Stroll than Alonso did!
Simple answer is that Alonso has talent, while Stroll only has money. Money can get you a seat you don’t deserve, AND keep you there, but that’s it.
Alonso Sainz would be such a good 2025 pair.
because he was just strolling along
Stroll has always had a very nervousness steering wheel. He has to keep it much steadier
“We value his technical knowledge.” Sets up the car high downforce and is then slow in the advantage he’s supposed to have with said set up. Be technical as he may, he’s still slow.
良い動画です！
Alonso is a Suzuki master. There's no shame losing the head to head. However, no excuse to be out in q1
How does alonsos car sound much better? Is it exhaust mic?
I don't think he had that high down force setup. He was indeed second in race in terms of max speed with 333km/h. He shouldn't blame the car that much. Alonso is doing miracles with it but that doesn't mean the other one isn't lacking performance....
That line through turn 6😂😂😂patethic
Skills
Alonso looks so much smoother on the steering wheel.
Alonso is a legend... stroll, nosomuch
I quote Alonso 'Stroll is a potential future world champion' (February 2023)...are we saying Alonso doesn't know what he's talking about?
stroll is not so bad driver . alonso is just great . if you have ever played racing sim, only 0.8 second slower than top of the world is not bad time
Sometimes money can’t buy you speed.