The Evolution of the Mirage Window Smoke

2023 ж. 19 Нау.
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The Mirage window smoke has been crucial since the launch of CS:GO, with players constantly seeking to improve it.
I go through the Evolution of the Mirage Window Smoke, an 8 year process that pushed the limits of what the scene knew about creating nade lineups.
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"Top teams" refer to the top 15/20 teams that played Mirage at the time specified.
Credits:
HLTV.org
Stream/broadcast credit to:
ESL
ESEA
FACEIT
DreamHack
SLTV
ESWC
99dmg
twitch.tv/device
Epic Sports Events
TaKeTV
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KZhead video credit to:
TrilluXe - Fast Mirage Window Smoke (2014): • CS:GO - Fast Mirage Wi...
adreN - Jump throw bind - allow or ban: • CS:GO Pro adreN Discus...
Flapadiddle - Jump Throws Are Now 100% Skill Based: • Jump Throws Are Now 10...
MrMaxim - How to Wallstrafe by CS:GO Veteran: • How to Wallstrafe by C...
ReDMooNTV - VNL KZ - In-depth: The wall strafe: • VNL KZ - In-depth: The...
chickengunya - How To Throw Accurate Jump Smokes (2014): • CS:GO - How To Throw A...
HattonGames - Fastest and Easiest Mirage Window Smoke. 128 tick. [2017]: • Fastest Mirage Window ...
Jumpthrow script ban:
Fifflaren thoughts on jumpthrow script: www.twitch.tv/videos/7907883?...
ESL bans jumpthrow scripts in 2016: play.eslgaming.com/counterstr...
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Reddit threads:
Huge smokes/flashes/mollys compendium (June 11 2014): / huge_smokesflashesmoll...
Legal jumpthrow workaround: / legal_jumpthrow_smoke_...
perfect de_mirage window smoke / no gap / short distance to mid (Oct 23 2015): / perfect_de_mirage_wind...
The Easiest Mirage Window Smoke - (64 & 128 tick) (Feb 28 2020): / the_easiest_mirage_win...
Patch notes before December 2013 updates: store.steampowered.com/oldnew...
Ancient patch notes: blog.counter-strike.net/index...
k1to Instant Window Smokes (2020): • Instant Window Smokes ...
Soundtrack:
Perfect Dark - Chicago Stealth
Perfect Dark - Carrington Institute
Perfect Dark - Air Base: Espionage
Perfect Dark - dataDyne Research: Investigation
Perfect Dark - Attack Ship: Covert Assault

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  • This is my first long-form video that digs into more of the history of how CS tactics evolve over time. What did you think of this video and would you like to see more? Let me know what you’d be interested in! Edit: There is a bot going around in the comments pretending to be me. I will only ever communicate using this account, so please do not message or interact with them!

    @mahone_tv@mahone_tv Жыл бұрын
    • Im interested in ancient individual and anubis :D Love your content bro

      @El1as--@El1as-- Жыл бұрын
    • This kind of content is great. I’d love to see the change in utility and play styles on different maps over the years.

      @nihalguron97@nihalguron97 Жыл бұрын
    • This could be extrapolated to ideas how has mid control on mirage evolved over the years, or how have rotations changed on nuke over the years.

      @sherwinkp@sherwinkp Жыл бұрын
    • cs esports history/stories, anything you can find

      @maw9153@maw9153 Жыл бұрын
    • This is amazing and I want other videos like this! What about the evolution of A site dust2 tactics, showing things like the avangar smokes.

      @CoRe01337@CoRe01337 Жыл бұрын
  • this man really watched every mirage demo in history. most sane faceit user

    @launders@launders Жыл бұрын
    • oh wow you're here! Hi lau!! : )

      @rushiaboingboing7175@rushiaboingboing7175 Жыл бұрын
    • Hi lau. Ofc. you watched this masterpiece of a Video.

      @b.piening2887@b.piening2887 Жыл бұрын
    • valorant players in shambles

      @ffll8427@ffll8427 Жыл бұрын
    • 12:20 wasn't that flap that did that video? lmao, i fucking remember that post.

      @generodidtheedit@generodidtheedit Жыл бұрын
    • @@generodidtheedit yeaa lmao i was waiting for the glue straw

      @launders@launders Жыл бұрын
  • I'd like to give this guy props, I have never played cs go, never watched a tournament, and yet I watched an entire video on it because of how it was presented, made it genuinely interesting

    @ZachsWonderland@ZachsWonderland Жыл бұрын
    • This.

      @SenrabMJam@SenrabMJam Жыл бұрын
    • same this video rocks

      @joesauter3918@joesauter3918 Жыл бұрын
    • same.

      @desma26@desma26 Жыл бұрын
    • You might also enjoy Wirtual's documentaries on Trackmania. They too are well made. I'd recommend to check out "Impossible Trackmania Shortcut Finally Done After 13 Years"

      @K17ten@K17ten Жыл бұрын
    • Same here

      @ya1dnif@ya1dnif Жыл бұрын
  • I really can't I watched a 20 minute video on throwing mirage window smoke. The History of this game is so rich and you are such a good story writer to explain it so nicely. thank you so much for this video

    @Frogesh@Frogesh Жыл бұрын
    • i watched this and i dont even play cs.

      @haxeplays9962@haxeplays9962 Жыл бұрын
    • @@haxeplays9962 💀💀

      @PenanceStarcraft@PenanceStarcraft Жыл бұрын
    • @@haxeplays9962 same lmao

      @defaultprofilepictureguy2526@defaultprofilepictureguy2526 Жыл бұрын
    • this is kind of like wirtual but csgo

      @1dan1609@1dan1609 Жыл бұрын
    • you really can't you can't really can't you really can't I really can't I really

      @ilusions4@ilusions4 Жыл бұрын
  • You know this game has such an abundance of history when someone can make a 20 minute video on 1 utility being used in 1 area of this 1 map

    @CrayCow@CrayCow Жыл бұрын
  • I never thought something like this could be made. It just enhances my appreciation for the game and the community around it. The amount of effort you put into this is almost unimaginable. Thank you for doing what you're doing Mahone.

    @sherwinkp@sherwinkp Жыл бұрын
  • 19:26 "So who knows what's in store for the future" Volumetric smokes bruh

    @calccalccalc@calccalccalc Жыл бұрын
  • Snax must have thrown it by pressing W+A while crouched to make use of wallstrafing, as well as standing up just before (or by simultaniously) jump-throwing for extra speed. He always had super innovative line-ups like the one for heaven on Nuke where he lined himself up while running out of T spawn. Awesome compilation and great research as usual. Thanks!

    @FNScence@FNScence Жыл бұрын
    • nice

      @1azey@1azey Жыл бұрын
    • Maybe youre right, but you dont wall strafe when pressing w so he would have to press W let go and then press A

      @Stoffercss@Stoffercss Жыл бұрын
    • @@Stoffercss Since he's angled to the left you'd be able to use w+a to press against the left side wall and get the proper forward movement I think. Coming from a surfing perspective, you'd be able to wall-strafe against the surf block by pressing w+a or w+d, the thing that changes with that is just where you are looking towards.

      @Independent1206@Independent1206 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Stoffercss potentially the wall strafe and then presses w after jumping like fl0m’s smoke

      @z34n@z34n Жыл бұрын
    • After some testing, I found a standing W+A works, no need for crouch. It's kinda inconsistent but cool nonetheless.

      @guiltyspark4234@guiltyspark4234 Жыл бұрын
  • Blast should show this during their breaks instead of dead air. THIS is good content.

    @Lekeing@Lekeing Жыл бұрын
    • Then they would have to pay whoever was the owner of the video. If not that would be content theft.

      @mr.someone5679@mr.someone56797 ай бұрын
    • ​@mr.someone5679 Originally I said ESL, but I meant Blast. The guy who made this video works for blast, which is why I thought they should show this instead of dead air.

      @Lekeing@Lekeing7 ай бұрын
    • @@Lekeing They would still have to pay him, no? I don't imagine Blast owns contents made by Mahone for his own channel.

      @Charp87@Charp877 ай бұрын
  • wallstrafing mentioned this video has everything

    @launders@launders Жыл бұрын
    • Redmoon based

      @TheKiwijord@TheKiwijord Жыл бұрын
  • Source 2: "Allow me to introduce myself"

    @TitorEPK@TitorEPK Жыл бұрын
  • the streets have been waiting

    @launders@launders Жыл бұрын
  • Mahone was so dedicated he built a time machine just for this one video. I appreciate all the effort you put in and hope to see more

    @apeologists@apeologists Жыл бұрын
  • Gonna have to remake this video soon

    @gamerpro937@gamerpro937 Жыл бұрын
  • never was a video outdated so fast. welcome cs2!

    @matteagle6914@matteagle6914 Жыл бұрын
  • This must have been a tonne of work to research and record. Awesome job dude - this will go down as one of the most important historical CS videos ever! Now go take a day off :)

    @tjamesnorton@tjamesnorton Жыл бұрын
  • I find it amazing that you managed to pick such a small thing about CS and managed to make it into such an interesting video

    @dr1zz3n@dr1zz3n Жыл бұрын
  • this has to be my favourite piece you've done, fantastic work!

    @YouM3tv@YouM3tv Жыл бұрын
  • This is the best CS:GO video ever

    @petr1k@petr1k Жыл бұрын
  • Its great to see mahone getting the love and respect he's much deserved for his work explaining and demonstrating use of tactics and utility in such a majestic game

    @5h4rpy@5h4rpy Жыл бұрын
  • I love how much work was needed to do this. Absolute quality and originality and I learnt so much.

    @saliva134@saliva134 Жыл бұрын
  • funny how this video was made instantly outdated. rip old smokes

    @ravivbg16@ravivbg16 Жыл бұрын
    • It's History

      @korvo9936@korvo99363 ай бұрын
  • This was absolutely fascinating to watch the evolution of strat optimization and the fact that objectively more efficient plays still took time to be adopted in the highest level of play Fantastic work, I'm subscribing and would love more stuff like this

    @flpymnky@flpymnky Жыл бұрын
  • I never thought I’d be so invested in learning about grenade smoke optimizations in a game I don’t ever play or know much about. This is a a testament to your great video quality, storytelling, and engaging writing which made this a pleasure to watch. Cool video, keep up the good work.

    @johnstevenson3628@johnstevenson3628 Жыл бұрын
  • This is amazing. CS needs more of these types of retrospectives.

    @moosome@moosome Жыл бұрын
  • Mr Danny, what an insane video to put out. The editing on this is wild, we need more videos like this :)

    @604Nice@604Nice Жыл бұрын
  • Never thought I would ever watch a video this long about a specific smoke grenade spot in a game I don't play. Truly fascinating, the attention to detail and the great editing definitely promote thw idea of me watching this again, great video.

    @MrKrill7@MrKrill7 Жыл бұрын
  • i was wonderin what u were cookin up and i was not expecting it but man it did not disappoint, i love how you can see the logic behind each evolution and its really cool to see which players and teams lead innovation and which teams were quickest at stealing new discoveries, i still remember when the instant window smokes came out and how excited you were about the timing windows that opened up so it makes perfect sense for u to make this video there are so many possibilities for a series like this, i think an obvious follow up could be nuke outside smokes because of how much variation there has been there and theres been so much evolution in how teams lurk around the smokes or play thru them

    @snooples@snooples Жыл бұрын
  • The work put into this video is INSANE. Hats off sir

    @sexntuna@sexntuna Жыл бұрын
  • I never played CS:GO but this documentary was on point, watched it all! Amazing to see the evolution of the technique and props to you for all the research you did on this topic!!

    @same418@same418 Жыл бұрын
    • dawg why are you here ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

      @deepfriedantifreeze6439@deepfriedantifreeze6439 Жыл бұрын
    • @@deepfriedantifreeze6439 random recommended video? lol

      @same418@same418 Жыл бұрын
    • @@same418 ‘lol’ common symptom of severe brain damage just because its in your recommended doesnt mean you have to watch it goofy annoying ass non csgo player bro watching a documentary on shi he don even play

      @deepfriedantifreeze6439@deepfriedantifreeze6439 Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely exceptional breakdown, need more content like this

    @duxbox@duxbox Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing work dude! Was absolute pleasure to watch all details on Smoke history. Lets get Ready for CS2 smoke action!

    @joenaive8191@joenaive8191 Жыл бұрын
  • Very good video. I have never played CS:GO nor do I watch esports, but this video was so well made that it kept me engaged all throughout. Well done.

    @mariocastiel2543@mariocastiel2543 Жыл бұрын
  • I love watching the evolution of some strategy on placing blindness in a specific area of a source map in a game I don't play.

    @samuels1123@samuels1123 Жыл бұрын
  • More these kind of evolution series please, its fascinating to watch specific smoke lineups, maps, tactics, exploits, etc.

    @MrJiaHung@MrJiaHung Жыл бұрын
  • Based Perfect Dark OST user. Amazing video.

    @KayZ_19@KayZ_19 Жыл бұрын
  • Linking ancient spawn throws to mirage window honestly blew my mind man. Truly a work of art crammed into a 20 min video. Unbelievably well done. Sharing this where I can

    @Dummythxc@Dummythxc Жыл бұрын
  • Man what a detailed and good video, you actually put in the videos of each team first throwing it dude, props for the effort, amazing video

    @Josipinho@Josipinho Жыл бұрын
  • Tha ls for uploading again mahone! Really loved your pro demos and hope to see more in the future.

    @sunshine8338@sunshine8338 Жыл бұрын
  • now it has evolved yet again

    @PRIM305@PRIM305 Жыл бұрын
  • It's amazing how such a seemingly very small detail as one smoke can have such a huge history behind it.

    @slackjaw488@slackjaw488 Жыл бұрын
  • This is really amazing content, I would love to see more meta evolution analysis videos like this!

    @elbaguetti5356@elbaguetti5356 Жыл бұрын
  • this was a fantastic video, I'm impressed by the huge amount of work you put into this! I'd love to see more videos like these

    @DannyAbcro@DannyAbcro Жыл бұрын
  • Valve saw you doing this video and decided to make it feel old in just a few hours :)

    @mariuspuiu9555@mariuspuiu9555 Жыл бұрын
  • I know there have been many iterations of the windows smokes but I wasn't expecting a near 20mins, detailed, well-planned video!! great work!

    @danxu7642@danxu7642 Жыл бұрын
  • The technique's evolution - and this very video - are so beautifully nerdy! Thanks for making this!

    @bassemb@bassemb Жыл бұрын
  • I watched your channel since 200 followers. Im so proud of you how you envolved and still keep to your core content🎉

    @Floffmann1992@Floffmann1992 Жыл бұрын
  • never touched cs:go in my life, but this video had me hooked from beginning to end! you did a fantastic job with this, i'd love to see more!

    @Prankless@Prankless Жыл бұрын
  • As someone who likes to spend hours upon hours finding new smokes alone on an offline server, this video made me very happy :)

    @Wilzzub0b@Wilzzub0b Жыл бұрын
  • I love this type of videos that analyze upgrades among the time and quite so precise! Love it and keep it doing

    @Ianneitor@Ianneitor Жыл бұрын
  • Incredibly deep, intricate and fascinating history of some CS Meta, great content!

    @geoffreychan8967@geoffreychan8967 Жыл бұрын
  • I knew I was a Counter Strike nerd for awhile. I have been playing for years and watching the pros for just as long. But man I just spent 19 minutes watching a video about ONE smoke for ONE map for csgo and was intrigued the entire time and loved every minute. Keep making this great content!

    @legopigguy@legopigguy Жыл бұрын
  • Well its going to be very differentiere now

    @williamankjr9647@williamankjr9647 Жыл бұрын
  • This was really cool to see actually. There's a lot involved in this history that I was surprised I didn't know. The fact that it got so extreme that CTs had to throw a molly through the vent early to stop the smoke is so awesome!

    @woodybob01@woodybob01 Жыл бұрын
  • Insane video. U must have watched so many demos, i cant believe it. Well done, enjoyed every second of it.

    @Lallegang@Lallegang Жыл бұрын
  • Damn and just now you need to remake the video cuz of Source 2 😂😂

    @bornabudic1399@bornabudic1399 Жыл бұрын
  • i always felt like lining smokes up with the geometry was such a weird (unintended?) mechanic, but its depth knows no bounds and this video shows off how valve letting players creativity run wild has resulted in an incredibly high skill ceiling.

    @rythmUK@rythmUK Жыл бұрын
  • Waiting on a full smoke video for each map and for each side that has use for them. Sweet video man.

    @ncbob91@ncbob9111 ай бұрын
  • Great to see you at the major, probably the best man in the world for the job. Happy to see you come so far. Good luck in the future,

    @nabilomar4631@nabilomar4631 Жыл бұрын
  • can you go over the history of the A ramp meta in vertigo? i think the evolution was pretty interesting

    @console6010@console6010 Жыл бұрын
    • By week 5 astralis had some insane utill

      @jonas440@jonas440 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@jonas440 by 5 minutess after map launched*

      @ivankrivo5397@ivankrivo5397 Жыл бұрын
  • Ironically, with new tickrate system there might be different 2023 technique

    @Xeem_Pad@Xeem_Pad Жыл бұрын
    • new smoke system is much more important lol, i cant wait to see how it fills corridors

      @maksitaxi@maksitaxi Жыл бұрын
    • @@maksitaxi true

      @Xeem_Pad@Xeem_Pad Жыл бұрын
  • This is beautiful man, very well done!

    @zioplys@zioplys Жыл бұрын
  • Sometimes I'm asking myself whether or not the Game Devs implement this on purpose and are well aware of these possibilities way before teams find this out and use it (like the exact textures etc. required for the perfect throws) or if this is just something that is randomly there.

    @flintstone1409@flintstone1409 Жыл бұрын
    • they could simply keep in mind the possibilities and make sure the buildings or whatever they can use are detailed enough so they can be used for lineups by the community

      @I-C-N-H@I-C-N-H Жыл бұрын
  • Old video, cs2 smoke when?

    @Hlidskialf@Hlidskialf Жыл бұрын
  • Dude this was such a great video! I'm not even a huge player of CS:GO, plenty of hours, plenty of time trying some smokes, but that's across a decade on and off. I found it fascinating and really enjoyed the style and effort you clearly put in. Cheers.

    @markjodonohue@markjodonohue Жыл бұрын
  • This video is a documentary. Insanely good and very nostalgic.. Congrats.

    @KnightFox1000@KnightFox1000 Жыл бұрын
  • Its 2023.. cs2 is out...i still miss my window smoke

    @777redhood@777redhood7 ай бұрын
  • I've watched csgo for over 7 years and this is the best csgo video I've ever watched.

    @siddharthrathod6249@siddharthrathod6249 Жыл бұрын
  • This was one of the most well made and entertaining videosm I've watched in a long time. 10/10!

    @Agreveby@Agreveby Жыл бұрын
  • One of the most interesting and well-built csgo history videos. Great job

    @uunlimitedvoid@uunlimitedvoid Жыл бұрын
  • this video now needs an update 💀

    @statik884@statik884 Жыл бұрын
  • Aged like milk

    @BarrettKillz@BarrettKillz Жыл бұрын
  • 10/10 video essay, amazing quality and effort.

    @xnopyt13@xnopyt13 Жыл бұрын
  • Looking forward to more of these, I recognize the time you put into the vid

    @dawiee@dawiee Жыл бұрын
  • Well, now this video is instantly out of date.

    @Keekoook@Keekoook Жыл бұрын
  • this not aged well

    @wrx95pro@wrx95pro Жыл бұрын
  • This video is a masterpiece, thank you for putting in so much effort on such a niche subject, loved watching it

    @amarnathsama@amarnathsama Жыл бұрын
    • bro what? xd!!!

      @dkallday0795@dkallday0795 Жыл бұрын
  • This video is so well done! Great Job keep them coming!

    @medicmii@medicmii Жыл бұрын
  • Valorant smokes: pull out iPad

    @ELGUAPOIV@ELGUAPOIV Жыл бұрын
  • Cs2

    @yevgeniylankin7032@yevgeniylankin7032 Жыл бұрын
  • lovely video mahone! Would love to see more content like this. Even if it takes months to make definitely worth the wait.

    @zain6879@zain6879 Жыл бұрын
  • Please do more of these, I am a huge fan of those type of videos, especially for a topic this cool and interesting

    @mab_8731@mab_8731 Жыл бұрын
  • already outdated cs2!!!!

    @miljonx7839@miljonx7839 Жыл бұрын
  • great timing for this video. Now CS2 just made it useless

    @Mateus_Coutoo@Mateus_Coutoo Жыл бұрын
    • Why?

      @madchem184@madchem184Ай бұрын
  • This is insanely good, keep up the good work!

    @K0kEEE@K0kEEE Жыл бұрын
  • This aged poorly…

    @agentiswierd5705@agentiswierd5705 Жыл бұрын
    • Why?

      @The_oli4@The_oli4 Жыл бұрын
  • outdated video

    @SupaPLAi@SupaPLAi Жыл бұрын
  • This is such a fascinating video and a great concept for future ideas! Awesome work brother, hope to see some similar videos in the future.

    @novahdesign@novahdesign Жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic research, appreciate the time spent making this video !!

    @GeorgeT96@GeorgeT964 ай бұрын
  • I missed your content so much, glad you uploaded!

    @logankinsella9529@logankinsella9529 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm happy for you this to pop off. Keep going

    @vasara2293@vasara2293 Жыл бұрын
  • You never cease to amaze me Danny. Great job!

    @banksyy6182@banksyy6182 Жыл бұрын
  • This is a superb video that must’ve taken quite a while to put together. I’d love to see more if you get round to it!

    @Hex...@Hex... Жыл бұрын
  • This makes me appriciate all the line up guides I used to watch in 2015

    @Dyleniz@Dyleniz Жыл бұрын
  • wow, unbelievable amount of science behind this game. Good job Mahone. perfect attention to details. 👍👍👍

    @samankarimitari7708@samankarimitari7708 Жыл бұрын
  • Constantly checking your channel for a new upload. I understand content like this takes a while but boy is it worth the wait

    @seamusmcsorley7638@seamusmcsorley763810 ай бұрын
  • Hooray Mahone back with the KZhead vids! Really enjoyed your segments during the events I wished we got more Mahone and here we are!!

    @RC_723@RC_723 Жыл бұрын
  • First video I watched from you, and this is easily one of my favorite CSGO videos ever Amazing job

    @FosFate@FosFate Жыл бұрын
  • can't even imagine the amount of demos you had to skim through, awesome vid

    @lex5964@lex5964 Жыл бұрын
  • Insane work brother, well presented. 🙏👍👍

    @Baris747@Baris747 Жыл бұрын
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