You thought "Theme of Eastern Story" was ZUN's most used melody? Wrong!
This is basically something I noticed while I was listening to the music of Touhou, so I basically decided to make a video of it. I was quite surprised, to be brutally honest with you. I mean, I actually listen to ZUN's music a lot and I never noticed this until now.
So yeah, this video is essentially a compilation of some of ZUN's themes that pretty much share the same leitmotif, along with some bonus tracks which are themes from Touhou fangames and non-Touhou games, not composed by ZUN of course.
Enjoy!
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Damn, an update from a 10 YEAR OLD VIDEO. This is probably the very first time I've seen such a thing.
Well... considering that this is one of my most viewed videos, I thought it'd be fine to get the viewers' attention with something I've been cooking up recently.
It's called a Leitmotif, kids. I-it's a thing. In music. Especially music that's part of a story or play.
i always love to tell people about leitmotifs; its cool to tell them then they can tell just what themes are repeated and it blows their minds
lol I think you give zun too much credit
@@basedmod2139 oh no, zun deserves all the credit
Wait wtf it's called Leitmotif in english??
"I-its a thing" Why you gotta frame it as common sense
Have... *HAVE I BEEN MISLED TO BELIEVE 'THEME OF EASTERN STORY' WAS TOUHOU'S MAIN THEME ALL THIS TIME?!*
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@バナニーナ! >also used in PCB, SA, and most ZUN albums anyway Uh... ^^"
How could you forget Sakuya's theme? It is pretty much everywhere in the entire main melody >_>
explane to me?
@@Fishnberg This constant/repetitive-like melody is used quite a bit in Sakuya's theme in Touhou EoSD. The part where the song changes to a 3/4 time signature.
@@hyperslayer7338 I see, thanks alot!
@@FishnbergNo problem!
Bro thanked hyper slayer 3 years later@@Fishnberg
Here's one song that uses this leitmotif that I legitimately feel like nobody except me noticed it. This motif was used in Pandemonic Planet, right after the intro. The thing is, the leitmotif isn't just a straight copy of all the other uses of it, it's actually inverted. I don't know why Zun did this, but I can't tell if I should be surprised nobody has noticed it.
I really felt something weird when I heard it to but didn't expect it to be like that.
nice catch
Bell of Avici at 9:12 uses both the normal motif and the inverted version.
@@Kromiball Oh wow, I think I hear it. Thank you for pointing that out!
I think it’s also in doll judgement from PCB in the intro specifically
_ZUN cannot help but reuse his favorite medleys ever since he made them. He cannot help but love it._ *_And we all love it._*
ZUN actually snuck this really sneakily into Pandemonic Planet. You know the part just after the intro? It's an inversion of this melody, it's "upside down"!
Sakuya and Alice in the Windows game love to use this melody. It makes sense why Alice uses this melody in both her Stage Theme and Boss Theme. We're led to believe that this is the same Alice from the PC-98 Era. As she recognizes Reimu, which shouldn't be possible for people starting with the Windows Era. So there's a lore reason as to why Alice has this melody in her themes during the Windows Era, which is awesome. Gotta respect ZUN for going all out, Another Theme that uses this melody is "Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator". Miko's Boss Theme.
00:00 Eastern Demon-Sealing Record ~ Pure Land Mandala 00:30 A Dream Transcending Space-Time 00:49 Maniacal Princess 02:05 Bad Apple!! (Touhou 4: Lotus Land Story) 02:25 Cute Devil ~ Innocence 03:01 Those Who Live in Illusions 03:23 Wondrous Romance ~ Mystic Square 03:32 Legendary Illusion ~ Infinite Being 03:49 Shinto Shrine 04:06 Mystic Dream (Touhou 5: Mystic Square) 04:33 Illusionary girl from Canaveral 04:41 Magical Girl's Crusade 04:51 Fantasy Science ~ Doll's Phantom 05:09 Girl's Divinity ~ Pandora's Box 05:27 Warrior Maiden ~ Heart of Valkyrie 06:05 Forest of Dolls 07:15 Magical Girl's Crusade (Ghostly Field Club version) 08:09 Boys and Girls of the Age of Science 08:26 Fantasy Machine ~ Phantom Factory 08:53 Heartfelt Fancy 09:11 Bell of Avici ~ Infinite Nightmare 09:34 Humans and Youkai Coming and Going at the Canal 09:55 Elfin Mint's Theme 10:02 Life-Guiding Song ~ Prospect Mirai 10:09 Assholevania 10:36 Sorrowful Requiem (Elemental Master ending theme)
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Bad Apple is from Touhou 4
ASS!
Not all of these melodies sound quite the same, and as stated before, Theme of Eastern Story is still used more. That being said, this was still a nice catch. Good ear~
well, they share the same tonal sequence, though. melodies are nothing but a sequence of notes. And those do share said melody. They do have different purposes in different songs, though, gotta give you that.
This can also be found in "Moskau" by Dschinghis Khan.
Came here looking for this comment.
*The History of Touhou* Part 1: 1162 AD
Double Dealing Character has at least four themes with the bassline of _Shoutoku Legend ~ True Administrator_ playing in the background.
Yeah, I've noticed that too.
Nobody talks about how Reincarnation is in Mist Lake...
what what which ones? i havent notice
@ShadowLoli R00mia kzhead.info/sun/ldOdqdducHiKeKM/bejne.html It's around here. Doesn't it sound similar to Reincarnation in the build up to the chorus?
Incidentally, Prince Shoutoku spearheaded the revival of worship of both Ookuninushi/Daikoku, known for his medicinal knowledge, and Sukuna Hikona, Shinmyoumaru's ancestor, known for having come from Tokoyo no Kuni and even having returned from death, and promoting them as gods of Kotobuki no Kuni, the Land of Long Life.
I hear this in Undertale as well...
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Tbh, that leitmotif is how I know a ZUN track is gonna go hard. It's an amazing build up.
i keep using this leitmotif in my works too, dunno why but it always goes back to this
...Huh, I can't believe I didn't notice that ever. That melody does show up everywhere.
recently found this leitmotif in your best nightmare from undertale.
The yellow soul at the end of undertale also uses this leitmotif xD
i forgot how obsessed ZUN with this tune
We've discovered the secret to ZUN's genius.
This is a video of all the times that zun has used a variation of an alberti bass. It's a thing in classical music. Listen to Mozart sonata 16 k545 in C or the ending to Super Mario Bros 2 (USA).
its a descending alberti bass, a broken arpeggio, that so far from research i wasn't able to find any names or anything in regards to it; of course it isn't original from zun, it has been used quite often but both examples you've given don't fall under that category, mozart's had a basic rendition, SMB2 (USA) had an ascending-descending variation. i still wonder if this specific form has any sort of nomenclature or the kind given how often it appears
Chinese songs have had it for a long time, iirc Gong Xi Gong Xi is mostly just this melody.
I've always recognized multiple similarities between his songs but I didn't think about this. Thanks for making this video it's very interesting!
This makes me wonder if it Shoutoku Legend was inspired by this Leitmotif, just on a minor key.
Makes me wonder if it inspired Gengetsu's theme in general. It just seems like one of those themes.
what about PCB Stage 3?
Ik this was like 7 years ago but if you listen or look at the midi to desire drive, it disguised itself in the beginning part it's just spiced up a bit
God, I love Touhou.
well, for the first part i totally agree, but in the sencond meh, :/ i'll try to explain: when u compose u have tocreate notes pattern from 0, but u have to be inspired to do such a thing, however there some basic pattern of notes or tricks if u want to nome them which allows to compose a perfect piece of music without errors, this kind of notes-scheme is taken form Bach and his toccata and fuge and it consist in an alternance of 2 times: 1 note is the same and the 2 changed according to the scale... however lots of ZUN's OST have this alternance descentent for both notes
I still think Theme of Eastern Story is used more. (I think it's referenced over 20 times) You should add song names on the screen as annotations :D
I would like to add annotations, but I'm really lazy. ^^;
Sadly annotions are gone now
@@roniari9659 RIP annotations
We have chapters now
I feel proud noticing leitmotifs lmao (listened to too many Touhou originals, arrangements, remixes that I could literally wake up from comma if someone started playing some of my favourite ones xD)
What about Doll Maker of Bucuresti and Doll Judgement?
8:53 MEOW~
and the doll maker of bucuresti‼️
I knew I heard this a LOT. But I mean, this is BAD Apple !! main bassline, so obviously I heard it a lot
There's a part of BL1ND JUST1C3: 1NV3ST1G4T1ON (One of Terezi's themes from Homestuck) around the 45-second mark that sounds very similar to this leitmotif.
This melody even shows up in Battle Against a True Hero!
Damn, I have never found any music more beautiful than THIS!!
Have you fallen to the Touhou hole yet?
@@mauricestardddude8317 I haven’t played it but yea I love touhou but also I forgot about this song until you commented haha
@@alansartrignotI bet you forgot again.
I think it's on purpose- A sort of proto-Theme of Eastern Story.
It was in Stage 3 Of PCB's BGM as well, you can here it at the start
You're like the 5th person in here(I think, I've genuinely lost count) who pointed that out, and at this point, I'm genuinely getting sick of it, lmao.
@@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon ah ok, is that a bad thing? 😭
Not really. I just personally wish people didn't repeat the same thing over and over, but I can't judge them for not reading the comments.
@@KurenaiTheScarletBullgon oh ok, I didn't know other people had commented that, sorry I guess
No worries, you're fine.
Im happy im not the only one notice this. Since i started playing touhou. all music in every game has a special same melody.
so basically everyone is gengetsu
All artist have some constant that shows up in most of their music. But I like when artist like Zun use it sparingly but do it enough that when heard by close listeners, it becomes the thing that is known for defining their sound. When many of us hear Touhou music, its safe to imagine that there is some dance hall with the many characters across each game dancing to some oh the upbeat tracks while Zun and some other backup musicians (maybe, Rinnousuke and Myorin or the Prism River Sisters) rock out on stage. -Edit- Mmmm or perhaps Raiko or even Benben. Yeah let’s just reduce male characters as bartenders serving sake that causes oni fights to break out. It’ll give Aya something to report the next day.
it's funny how from all the soudtracks with the same melody there's not the most obvious ones being the Alice's theme from both her stage and boss fight
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I could hear that melody in Some themes I didn't knew it was in like Junkos theme
Man, who would have thought ZUN was the guy behind Black Diamond by Stratovarius?
not just ZUN's, I don't remember the name of it, but it's quite prevalent in music ever since baroque times
you can find this melody in Len'en 2 as well! Stage 4 boss, Hibaru Kokutenshi's theme!
Also Yabusame's theme's in general, I believe. Especially the intro of their theme in Len'en 1
10:11 was not expecting Avgn!
The am g f e chord progression too cmiiw
Really interesting
This little motif is very similar to 'Devil Speak' from Megami Tensei Ii, the connection between these two series' music is pretty interesting
In Moskau - dschinghis khan there is a rhythm like this in the Intro, it's called alberti bass, it's a chord technique that comes from classical music.
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i always thought that the short little meledy that plays at times in chen's theme sounded a little like flandres theme in a way (around the 1 minute mark). maybe thats on purpose because remilia and flandre are basically the princesses, arent they?
damn this is nice, i want to know more
And here I thought It was the same one as Alice stage's theme In th07 [Doll maker of Bucuresti]
it is, he forgot to add
You can find this melody in Eternal Shrine Maiden, said to be the ZUN's first.
You forgott stratovarious - black diamond
Nothing like clav-, I mean ZUNpets.
More like Bach Toccata and Fugue in D minor
zun's favorite melody in a nutshell i guess
how the hell did i not notice this
Why wondrous romance's opening bass melody is cool
I Know This Was Posted In 2013 But WBAWC Stage 1 Has The Leitmotif... Again...
It would be nice to label the music but pretty neat!
Reminds me of the song "MOSKAU " by the german band Dschingis Khan
OMG. How couldn't I be able to spot SA stage 4 !!
He did it again with the new games stage 2 boss
What the heck, its even in the AVGN game!?!
what the hell i thought that leitmotif was exclusive to bdd apple and doll maker of bucuresti, lmao i made a song based on that leitmotif. i really need to make a new version of it
16-step tr sequencer.
What about Doll Maker of Bucuresti? The intro for that theme is literally just that melody in different keys.
If you guys mention PCB Stage 3 one more time, I swear to God...
I was expecting Lunar Clock to be in this video you forgot it lel
wat about lunar clock~luna dial?
It's not a repeated thing.
Dosent Lunar Clock-Luna Dial have the same leitmotif too? That one is so well known im suprised it was left out
I thought it was just me, glad im not crazy!
Can someone list down the tracks used in this video?
Based zun
i call it Gengetsu Leitmotif
Hiroari shoots a strange bird Kinda, but i think Toes repeated the most
DJ Shadow - Organ Donor
Does this leitmotif have a name? I've also heard it in quite a few power metal songs, such as "The Martyr" and "Tommyknockers" by Blind Guardian.
Descending Alberti Bass
You forgot The Doll Maker of Bucuresti too !
Touhou 3 theme its literally Lunar Clock
Nemuno's theme in HSiFS deserves the place
'Kay? Where's the leitmotif on her theme? Because I don't hear it.
Assholevania! That got me chuckling x) (to readers ; it's the name of the AVGN song)
Wouldn't Kanako's theme count?
Turns out ZUN and Yngwie Malmsteen share a similar leitmotif.
Is there a tracklist?
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This sounds a lot like poison mind
Interesting. Does Bad Apple (the PV, maybe the original as well though) use this? I heard what I thought I recognized from Bad Apple in Theme of Eastern Story and have spent forever trying to find it.
it's at 2:10 lmao
@@nostalplant Thanks!
Tocata in d minor bach?
thats actually shocking wtf
This also appears at around 0:11 and multiple times afterwards in the first Dancouga ED, Burning Love kzhead.info/sun/hrqRlNNxrKNrn5E/bejne.html
hey could you list all the ost names? please
Pedal notes are pretty much common in classical music Especially in baroque music So zun ain't really recycling motifs But rather using an already known music cliché
whats the first one called?
sakuyas theme!!!!!!!!!!!!
You missed The Doll Maker of Bucuresti
Eh? Well, what song is it anyway~? Oh well. I can still hear the similarities...I think. =/