An irikumi-go match in Groton, CT at the Connecticut Gojukan.
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To all the people writing ''This isn't Karate'': Okinawan Karate used to be about continuous adaptation to modern threats. As soon as protective gear was available, they started using it for full-contact matches.
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y3 жыл бұрын
i wish we would do this stuff in kyokushin.
@mnlbt Жыл бұрын
@@mnlbt me too, my master doesn't wants to include head striking and other stuff that aren't present in Kyokushin
@user-ry1qn3wq1m Жыл бұрын
@@user-ry1qn3wq1m update: i switched to kudo after training kyokushin my whole youth it gives me everything i need and: headstrikes, grappling, takedowns and its budo
@mnlbt Жыл бұрын
@@mnlbt that's great, sadly there's no Kudo dojo's on my country lol
@user-ry1qn3wq1m Жыл бұрын
@@user-ry1qn3wq1m yeah its a pretty small sport.. where you from?
@mnlbt Жыл бұрын
This is real karate as it should be, none of this point-scoring crap in modern karate. Grappling is very much a part of karate and this has been confirmed by various karate historians.
@MrMattias87 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. In isshinryu karate back in the 1990's and early 2000s we worked on submissions just as much as we did striking. When we sparred in my old sensei's dojo, if it went to the ground, he let it go for several minutes to see what would happen. I eventually got so good at beating the other brown and black belts that he started handicapping me by giving my opponents weapons and I had to fight with no weapon vs them with an escrima stick or okinawan bo, and I was expected to disarm the other brown and black belt students. Real street defense requires you learn to full contact "as close to no rules as possible" sparring.
@WadeSmith-oe5xd4 ай бұрын
The problem is not the point-scoring system, it's the lack of full-contact criteria needed for an honest assessment of a scoring point. What you're referring to is the modern shiai sport karate, which basically has become like modern Olympic fencing. Basically a game of tag! In the early days of karate competition, scoring was similar in concept to judo's scoring criteria. A full Ippon was only awarded by KO or incapacitation (unable to continue fighting). Wazari for a full-contact strike with power and control, but not resulting in KO or a submission (successful strike, but opponent can recover immediately). Yuko for successful strikes but with no effect (strikes landing on target but no effect, just the potential to have caused damage if the technique had been executed properly). The criteria for Wazari (half point) is two wazaris would amount to a full ippon. Similar in concept to boxing's knock down, but with no KO or TKO. Yuko was just the total amount of strikes landed but with no effect. This in turn would not amount to a full Wazari, just to brake a stalemate. Further criteria for Wazari is a combination technique in which opponent is knock down by a sweep. It must be preceeded by a combination of strikes (knock down rules). Also a combination of strikes that would cause a momentary knock down (high-low or continuous combination technique). Because of the inherent danger involved, without proper protection equipment, these type of competitions were no longer permitted.
@tatumergo39314 сағат бұрын
This is the style I want to practice!! Grappling + Striking = Realism 🥋
@Unity1163 жыл бұрын
Yes, we also can do bunkai on there
@naha16495 ай бұрын
This is how isshinryu and gojuryu used to train and spar every day. Sadly, most dojos no longer train and fight like this. I trained 5 days per week under a 4th degree black belt 3 hours per day. He was an 8 years veteran on the marine corps. Now people don't do real sparring, they do shitty points sparring and they get their ass kicked when they get in a real street self defense situation. In isshinryu dojos in the late 1990 and early 2000s era, we used to full contact spar and fight on the ground too, and I was one of the best at it.
@WadeSmith-oe5xd4 ай бұрын
@@WadeSmith-oe5xd . Here's hoping that karate combat evolves and takes off. So far it has only been a promotional showcase event.
@tatumergo39314 сағат бұрын
This is great. If they spar like this and train forms and conditioning like the Okinawan folks, I'd call that a hell of a martial art, by any standards!
@KangNamPelon5 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with you! If you're into Goju Ryu Karate, I recommend watching Karatemo's videos too! www.youtube.com/@karatemo
@JulieRocks Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. This is the type of evolution in sparring karate needs in order to stay relevant and practical. Also Props to the one kid that new a little bit of jiujitsu.
@ericcollins62315 жыл бұрын
This type of sparring is classic in all karate derived from Naha-te.
@Stazzo822 жыл бұрын
This isn't evolution.....it's old school karate
@XiangnuKhaan2 жыл бұрын
This is Okinawa Karate
@lucascampos32392 жыл бұрын
I see a good fight and I found it funny that people think that thing fake because it's not like karate, those people should really learn how to fight lol. Kyokushin karate practicer OSU
@butianhao40847 жыл бұрын
Bu TianHao that's because many people in KZhead comment section never even fought. In fact these two will murder those keyboard warriors.
@jedBSME5 жыл бұрын
They just watch MMA Fights but never in full contact or even street fight.
@m5a1stuart835 жыл бұрын
I am a Goju-Ryu karatéka from Montréal, I always wanted to try or change to Muay Thai because I don't fight in my dojo, it depresses me because I know can be a good fighter. But now that I'm seeing this I discovered more about Goju-Ryu and it gives me hope I can compete and represent my dojo.
@estebanagudelo45384 ай бұрын
Goju Ryu is amazing! A perfect balance between grappling + striking while still paying homage to Okinawan tradition.
@ronincopy4 ай бұрын
I'm looking for a karate discipline to practice, after 10 years of judo. I think I found it!
@jordiortega44364 ай бұрын
All these people commenting it’s not karate and stuff, it was actually pretty entertaining to watch and was better than most karate fighting videos I’ve seen.
@user-np3li4pl3i6 жыл бұрын
Looks way better than all the dancing and hopping in garbage WKF videos.
@thetoughguy76 жыл бұрын
It is karate though!
@drjonesjrjr5 жыл бұрын
@@thetoughguy7 I agree. As soon as I see the two karatekas start that ridiculous bouncing I'm out.
@Bloodletter84 жыл бұрын
For all keyboard warriors calling it "not Karate" or "similar to Kudo" , they better know the meaning of the Japanese term Kumite. Kumi= Freestyle/engagement of grappling, Te= Hands/Arms. Goju Ryu incorporates Iri Kumi, i.e., freestyle fighting/sparring as per Okinawan dialect. Goju Ryu itself means Go= Hard striking, i.e., Closed hand punches & Kicking techniques with linear movements , Ju= Soft/open hand techniques with more circular movements, i.e., attack, block & control opponent using joint locks, grappling, takedowns, and throws!! Btw, Kyokushin Karate style is a descendant style of Goju Ryu Karate & Seidokaikan Karate & Kudo, both are descendants of Kyokushin Karate!! I myself am a 4th Dan Black Belt in Goju Ryu Karate & have sparred like this wearing only groin guard but no headgear & gloves!!KBWs kindly make a note & increase the sphere of their martial arts knowledge!!
@souradeepchattopadhyay2353 Жыл бұрын
Y dime . Has peleado contra luchadores de judo o jiujitsu? Mamejan tecnicas similares a estos o mejores que el jiujitsu? Goju ryu puede ganarle a un rival de jiujitsu y judo?
@lucaspisculichi Жыл бұрын
This is very good, sparring is about striking, throwing down nd still working on the ground to submit your opponent. That's great traditional karaté is better than modern
@kaitennanbudoclubedea1882 Жыл бұрын
I think so too! If you're interested in Goju Ryu Karate, I recommend Karatemo's videos: www.youtube.com/@karatemo
@JulieRocks Жыл бұрын
My son is also doing Goju-Ryu Karate and his Sensei also let them do the full contact version Kumite. Altough they do Sports Kumite they also compete in some full contact cents. His Sensei still wants his students to gain experience in full contact karate and let them use all the techniques they are learned and practiced.
@cobuspotgieter46715 жыл бұрын
I practice Goju Ryu here in Brisbane and we do kumite with pads almost weekly.. light contact with control focusing on all the techniques we've been learning. Sometimes we go a little harder but that always comes down to you and your partner, if it's mutual, you go as hard as you like, it's good fun 😄 It's fundamental to really developing your skills. For the younger kids it's not needed as much but good to get them having a go and understanding what it's like to use what you've learned in a real setting. Great that your boy is into it, hope he really enjoys the Karate journey 🙏🏻
@jamesboydriver Жыл бұрын
pardon my ignorance; I thought Goju ryu karate does not allow full contact. This is really good to see karate doing full contact. Osu from Kyokushin and shotokan.
@Draconic7 жыл бұрын
If you're thinking of most Goju-ryu, coming from mainland Japan and being more sport-oriented, then you're right to find this style of sparring unusual. The Okinawans did more of this type of continuous sparring, but what you see here is different, as it incorporates modern protective gear, non-Okinawan grappling influence, and the whole judging system. There are lots of ways to spar, and they all have their respective benefits. This is just one particular way of doing it. There's no official Goju kumite. Good luck with your own training!
@JKMannsr7 жыл бұрын
I've seen Gojuryu schools that sparred full-contact but with Kyokushin-like rules with no head punching...
@johnkrummel29565 жыл бұрын
depends on the dojo i would think my shotokan dojo does touch contact up till 1st kyu then it starts to become brutal
@kevlarchicken5 жыл бұрын
Goju in Okinawa they are flexibel. They can fight full contact and wkf style. They join both tournament.
@ryunandarz28724 жыл бұрын
yong Un Mao you can train karate however you want. It’s not what you train, it’s how you train. These guys have dispensed with the WKF like rule base for karate kumite and adopted a more practical MMA set of rules.
@MrPietrasantino4 жыл бұрын
This is a great base for MMA. Both striking a grappling. Makes you a well-rounded fighter. Take GSP for example, one of greatest champion in UFC.
@howdyjoe23674 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@hybridwarrior48373 ай бұрын
Really glad to see Karate sparring that goes to this level while still being safe (as safe as this stuff can be). Great work.
@WarriorBoy3 жыл бұрын
People saying it's kudo didn't read the discription. I do goju and we fight like this for all our sparring
@Light-td9dh5 жыл бұрын
Your dojo sounds great.
@Bloodletter84 жыл бұрын
@@Bloodletter8 thanks i'm going there now
@Light-td9dh4 жыл бұрын
Yep, i think that goju ryu and kudo are very similar in some aspects. Kudo is more sport oriented and borrows some techniques from other martial arts, but the pursue of effectiveness is the same. It depends on how you train it of course. I'm sure there are goju ryu dojos around where they only do kata and never spar, but in this case, it's great.
@dojimanoryu49693 жыл бұрын
Kudo is basically Goju-Ryu without the kata anyway
@mikhailvasiliev62752 жыл бұрын
Its gone full circle In 1970s karate And kick boxing You could use throws And fight on the ground
@nicholasgreen40105 жыл бұрын
This is good kumite imo. Everyone needs to learn striking and grappling nowadays in this MMA crazed era. Btw, ignore the naysayers in the comments section. Either they show videos of themselves doing better otherwise their comments is nothing but hot, keyboard warrior air! Osu!
@Mataninja5 жыл бұрын
The method is great, they have a ways to go in skill but if the schools adopted this as the default for sparring they’d get very good over the next few years
@stuartperry-hughes5969 Жыл бұрын
That was great sparring it had the right balance off power and technique, the kids loved the power shots and take downs bless them, the crowd loved it !
@themcmexchange29384 ай бұрын
Original.karate had grappling mixed in good job
@danhiser48913 жыл бұрын
Thats mma to be honest punches look like boxing added muay thai checks added bjj grappling added ground and pound
@fcbfreviews3 жыл бұрын
Karate was mma bro, use everything you can to win a fight. It was called tode,it originated in okinawa, and every city had its style. Designed to defend yourself unarmed, since the Japanese empire forbade okinawans to carry a sword. Karate never was a unique entity and it was much different from what people see today. Shotokan popularized karate worldwide but that style is only 100 years old and it's not in any shape or form true karate. It took a lot of inspirations from boxing too.
@dojimanoryu49693 жыл бұрын
@@kakuto435 oh I’m learning goju Ryu
@fcbfreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@fcbfreviews yeah goju ryu is the best
@junahexhenodiala45403 жыл бұрын
@@kakuto435 Specially the original Okinawa karate it has punches, kicks, elbows, knees, throws, grappling, and weapons training,
@ferumcastrum40972 жыл бұрын
I've compete in Okinawa, with IOGKF in 1991. Irikumi. then had Full Contact gear, pads and gloves. They've changed now.... Fantastic display, missing that Kumite
@hernani345 жыл бұрын
Excelent fight!!, karate Goju Ryu is beautifull and efective for a real situation, greetings from Colombia.
@fabreddos2 жыл бұрын
I also think Goju Ryu is effective and beautiful at the same time. I suggest watching Karatemo's videos too. He practices Goju Ryu: www.youtube.com/@karatemo
@JulieRocks Жыл бұрын
I liked this. Good to see Karate being tested in a contact environment that includes ground work. Thank you for posting. I can't make out the logos on the uniforms, is this Goju Morio HIgaonna's organization?
@DJAraRealSalsa7 жыл бұрын
I like your karate school
@guetchingsaintroselouisxvi60415 жыл бұрын
IOGKF
@SenseiEli5 жыл бұрын
@@SenseiEli Thank you.
@DJAraRealSalsa4 жыл бұрын
Yeah is IOGKF, the best goju ryu organization
@juanantonio1923 жыл бұрын
Come on. No techniqe, poor amateur street fight. Who gave them the black belts?
@sofuckingbadass583 жыл бұрын
That is awesome and exactly what i want to see in TMA
@steffenebener73323 жыл бұрын
Nice to see. It always felt to me like karate and other arts sayed to be ,,ineffective" arent really bad but rather its the spirit that got lost.
@dandirty18905 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's Goju Ryu. That is the symbol of Morio Higaonna sensei's Goju Ryu on their DoGi.
@leosidharta67239 ай бұрын
this is really similar to Kudo, I like it
@edgeplantasm64735 жыл бұрын
O, how I miss practicing GoJu Ryu. 💔
@yamirooАй бұрын
You can train/apply karate however you want. It’s not what you train, it’s how you train. These guys have dispensed with the WKF like rule base for karate kumite and adopted a more practical MMA set. Karate was never designed for point scoring, it was designed to mess people up!
@MrPietrasantino4 жыл бұрын
is mma really all that practical tho? pretty sure they dont train to deal with opponents biting or clawing at ur eyes lol
@sonic-bb9 ай бұрын
Finally a kumite video that isn't people cat-fighting or people just jumping back and ki'ing for no reason
@3badthebad3 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it. As someone who's interested in training Goju-Ryu, the slap fighting doesn't make it look good.
@mikhailvasiliev62752 жыл бұрын
es bueno ver que muchos estilos de karate estan incorporando tecnicas de judo y jujitsu.....el karate esta definitivamente volviendo a sus origenes
@unchocoenchina5687 жыл бұрын
Não, não é verdade. Essas técnicas já existiam no karate original. Não é jiujitsu e judo
@viktor72084 жыл бұрын
@@viktor7208 o kung fu e o karate originais já tinham armlock e outras técnicas bem antes mas a sportização da arte marcial acabou com a luta.
@pedroajax13 жыл бұрын
This is how i want my dojo to be if i ever wanted to start my own dojo
@varianford5427 Жыл бұрын
If you're into Goju Ryu Karate, I recommend watching Karatemo's videos too! www.youtube.com/@karatemo
@JulieRocks Жыл бұрын
Nice, getting to Kudo level of full contact.
@scottvaj44345 жыл бұрын
It's amusing to watch. And I love those astronaut helmets too.
@quiteinfluential18862 жыл бұрын
This kind of fight IS very important to practise. But Real fight without any protection,IS in the first 5secondes . It s for this reason morio higaonna said , fight IS ippon kumite. No less, no more.
@didiervidry76875 жыл бұрын
I'm liking this a lot. I have a bit of a background in Kyokushin, Syoei Juku Karate, Muay Thai and I've trained some BJJ. I hear references to Kudo/Daidojuku (another great art), and seeing how Goju does it, then this is awesome. An art that I know will keep up with modern times. Keep up the good work, guys. OSSU!
@adamschmierer633 жыл бұрын
This may be called Goju-ryu..but they are definitely fighting under Kudo ruleset. I love it though! - Kyokushin and Daidojuku blackbelt here. OSU!
@mattjack3983 Жыл бұрын
Whats Syoei Juku Karate? Never heard off?
@switchblade800x3 Жыл бұрын
Best karate fighting I've ever seen!!
@Xur______ Жыл бұрын
Good fight! I like the mix of skills.
@Midwinter23 жыл бұрын
Love your video great work from Israel!
@SenseiEli5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eli! Check out the most recent fight we posted with my son. It's better than this one. :)
@JKMannsr5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Great Okinawan Goju Ryu 👍
@satheeshkumar68653 жыл бұрын
Better than most of the Karate I've seen.
@briansheeran41855 жыл бұрын
You're used to watch sports karate.
@victorribeiro24313 жыл бұрын
Always fun to see sensei roll. ;)
@NardaLee9 жыл бұрын
This is great conditioning training🤜🏽we trained just like this. Find your way!
@koden246 ай бұрын
Before there is MMA, there is Karate...
@yongjiean99802 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that so many people equate style with the rule-set followed in kumite. While different arts correlate with different rule sets, it seems to me that any style can use any set of rules in the practice of an art. In fact, the more ways you spar, the better for developing an effective and well-rounded martial artist. So yes, this particular match is comparable to the rules used in Daido Juku, which is comparable to MMA. At other times we use ippon rules. With regard to the people who say, "This isn't Goju-ryu!" If they mean that we both really suck and are a disgrace to the legacy of Chojun Miyagi... well, then, OK. But if they mean we're not doing ippon kumite, then I would argue that they have a very provincial understanding of karate.
@jeffmann64376 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, why if one is still on ones feet and one's opponent is on the ground would one go for a mount rather than circling around and going for either kicks or stamps to the grounded opponents head or ribs?
@yamiyomizuki5 жыл бұрын
GREAT! Fight goes to the ground and does not get stopped. GOOD.
@mizmera3 жыл бұрын
Yes this is real karate . Ahmad from Iran
@As613155 ай бұрын
Thank you Ahmad! A salaam alaikum.
@JKMannsr5 ай бұрын
Really good fight love goju ryu
@aaronramsden84993 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason no elbows were used as I know they are used in Goju Ryu?
@joeescher17763 жыл бұрын
They were permitted; just didn't happen. :)
@JKMannsr3 жыл бұрын
My question is, if someone plays karate kyokushin, judo and kick boxing, would he or she be better than fighting someone that plays this type of karate because they've got experience in 3 different fields? Or is just better to attend this type of karate from the beginning? To be honest, I've always heard about this type of karate but now till I knew how they fought and honestly I liked it. I'm in all three karate kyokushin, judo and kick boxing because all three complete each other to be a fulll packed and prepared fighter. Osu.
@cheeseplease28322 жыл бұрын
Goju-Ryu esse estilo é bem legal 👊😎
@Jefferson195__2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a hell of a lot of fun! My only criticism is that at one point, one of the fighters got mounted by the other, and he tried to defend by extending his arms to punch. If you do that against someone who is well-versed in some kind of jacket wrestling (Judo/BJJ/Sambo/etc), there's a huge risk of getting caught with a straight armbar (juji-gatame). But I'm no expert on anything though, so please don't take it like I'm trying to talk down to anyone; just my observation. Happy training!
@christopherallan42983 жыл бұрын
Karate originally had grappling (mainly stand up/clinch work)and throws. What you usually see is the westernized and bastardized version of Karate here in America.
@complexblackness6 жыл бұрын
Muito boa luta, parabéns
@peres8273 жыл бұрын
I fought Iri-kumi under Hanshi Morio Higaonna and Shihan Rodney Hu Sr. Who are the fighters on this video, and what year was it video?
@user-ez9ky9ol5u6 жыл бұрын
It was 2015. The guy starting with his back to the camera is me, and the other is a guy named Jeremy from CT. Not big shots in the IOGKF - just a couple of guys who like karate.
@JKMannsr6 жыл бұрын
JKMannsr 😎 thank you for the post and reply. I was just wondering. I am with Sensei Higaonna and Sensei Rodney Hu Sr
@user-ez9ky9ol5u6 жыл бұрын
didn´t know that Goju ryu have full-contact kumite. when i was traning years ago the only option was the old basic point system. Yuko, Wazari and Ippon.
@Galimah2 жыл бұрын
This is the real karate.
@Marc-wz5pv5 ай бұрын
This is awesome 👍
@quinsan3543Ай бұрын
In terms of grappling, does Goju use the same techniques as BJJ or is it completely different?
@loowisk11133 жыл бұрын
It's mostly tegumi and some judo
@ajmjl91022 жыл бұрын
Only problem with gloves and face shields is that it encourages indiscriminate punching to the skull. In the true true you don't punch the skull. You punch the jawbone or use open handed technique. "break the thumb you've killed the family" That being said, this training protocol is better than what 99.9% of karate school will use. This (with shin guards) is perfect for kids and beginners.
@Merrick3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough! But both of us have beautiful faces and smiles we want to keep looking good for many years to come. :)
@JKMannsr3 жыл бұрын
I agree. If you aint making money no reason to bust up the face. Its just a hobby
@bujindork Жыл бұрын
I assume it´s IOGKF. Great to see creative approach to training. Good fight, guys show heart. Why shouldn´t it be Goju? It´s just another training method. How could somebody expect true Goju in a competition type fight? There is no first attack in Goju kata. The guys would be just stairing at each other, waiting for the other to attack. How could you defend in a competition match by broking elbows, knees and similar? There will never be true Goju in a competition match.
@volodavolodovic47706 жыл бұрын
As a matter of fact, there is not true martial arts of any type in any tournament... Even boxing, get rid of the gloves and it becomes a totally different animal... As soon as it is a "tournament", then it becomes a sport.
@malasangre67005 жыл бұрын
They think MMA is real, Silat in its old forms are the arts of kill. Some Silat Style dont have hand to hand combat, they rely everything with weapon only. They only need one slice and the fight is over.
@m5a1stuart835 жыл бұрын
Karatê lindo de se ver OSS
@joaocarlos2692 Жыл бұрын
This isn’t gojo ryu this is kudo
@grassclass33156 ай бұрын
Dude great punches checks ground fights
@fcbfreviews3 жыл бұрын
Is it bogu kumite? (Kumite used in traditional styles of karate)
@ryanfigueiredodamaia20204 жыл бұрын
Yes. In Goju ryu it's called Iri Kumi :)
@jonasvacek68264 жыл бұрын
I'm rewatching this, and yeah, when you can punch as hard as a Gojuryu fighter is supposed to punch if they've been trained correctly, the bullet-proof glass on the face is necessary for sparring, otherwise you'd break one another's nose or jaw every time you punched them.
@WadeSmith-oe5xd3 ай бұрын
Without proper safety equipment protection, applying karate full-contact is dangerous. Real karate training is about the knock down one punch or strike method (Ikken Hissatsu)!
@tatumergo39315 сағат бұрын
What weren't they bouncing???
@Eliyahu9710 күн бұрын
Because in full-contact karate there's no bouncing. That's just something shiai sport-karate does to develop dynamism, since sport karate is a game of touch and not about effective technique. In full-contact karate you need to be grounded, otherwise you just get thrown around like a rag doll...
@tatumergo39315 сағат бұрын
Strong karate,this is what karate should be about
@jjac725 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I just posted a new video yesterday of my son fighting this past weekend. Same rules. Check it out.
@JKMannsr5 жыл бұрын
Traditional Schools that Modernize have such scary fighters
@badfoody9 ай бұрын
Now that is karate!
@IsaacLausell3 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see that there are other karateka engaging in continuous sparring with heavy-full contact. My only gripe is the plastic face shields. If the ultimate goal is self defense you need to learn to take a face punch and how to fight through the pain/discomfort of it.
@johnpjones17755 жыл бұрын
i get what your saying but lets face it most people do martial arts because they enjoy it the moment they start getting smacked in the face and risk getting a broken nose or something there going to leave i think the face plates are a nice compromise as you can take a body punch without risking disfigurement ive seen clubs that wear foot, shin, groin and helmet protection along with huge boxing gloves you feel like the michelin man and you learn nothing but this i actualy like personaly
@kevlarchicken5 жыл бұрын
@@kevlarchicken i mean there's a balance between realism and safety always, but there is no, or at least shouldn't be a risk of disfigurement from a face punch in sparring. either practice in the dojo, or competition. the face protectors create a false sense of security about taking a face punch (if anyone actually bothers to throw them) and it shifts the 'meta' of the fight so to speak away from face punches since they won't cause pain they provide no deterrence, and very little advantage of any sort. why punch the face when you can hit them in the solar plexus and knock the wind out of them for example?
@johnpjones17755 жыл бұрын
@@johnpjones1775 again i agree they do create a false sense of security if i were to introduce them it would probably only be for the lower grades were you dont have nearly as much control as a dan grade should
@kevlarchicken5 жыл бұрын
WATH IS THIS?
@MrVikot4 жыл бұрын
That seems to be daido juku (kudo) gi, helmet and stance.
@Teddyjrs126 күн бұрын
For those in the know, are submissions permitted in this? Last time I did Karate was 20 years ago (Goju Ryu) and as far as I know nothing like this existed then.
@BBP0812 жыл бұрын
Yes, submissions were permitted. (Chokes are hard to get, though, with the helmets.)
@JKMannsr2 жыл бұрын
What association were you with? Bogu kumite or irikumi go kumite as a rule set was created in 1927 by The Karate Study Group of Tokyo Imperial University, which devised its own armoured karate system and began to practice sport Karate. Then was brought to Okinawa's school system by Kentsū Yabu who adopted armour in Karate while teaching it at Okinawa Prefectural Normal School. Also in Okinawa, for a while, sparring while wearing armor was also used in Shigeru Nakamura's "Okinawan Kenpo". Remember the Pinan kata were developed for the Okinawan school system by Anko Itosu between 1905 & 1907. Before the development of Pinan the Naihanchi were taught. Then in 1940 Gekisai Dai Ichi by Shōshin Nagamine and Gekisai Dai Ni by Chōjun Miyagi in 1940. The semi-contact form of karate was developed as a kyōgi during the USA miliatary occupation, so that Karate could become a legal sporting game post 1950 when Kendo became legal.
@kevionrogers26052 жыл бұрын
@@kevionrogers2605 it was simply called Canada Goju Ryu, based in Toronto. Light contact point sparring was the method
@BBP0812 жыл бұрын
Kudo?
@JaewonWorld Жыл бұрын
Karate or MMA?
@lopezb3 жыл бұрын
Nice space helmets.
@dustyrustymusty35775 жыл бұрын
Karate students. Is this the new direction of tournament fighting? Are more and more tournaments looking like the MMA?
@richx50646 жыл бұрын
Why not? Karate should be flexible and evolve. Karate always including throws and grappling, it just got lost in the McDojofication in the US. These guys are taking karate back to its roots
@benb96236 жыл бұрын
My question? Is it happening today and common. Or is this just a local event
@richx50646 жыл бұрын
@@richx5064 Depends on school and its leaders. I believe it does and should become more common.
@OkurkaBinLadin5 жыл бұрын
This form is more like the original karate form, karate has always been a complete art, what we see in the WKF is not 10% of what is taught.
@HayashiCatholic2 жыл бұрын
What were the rules of this kumite?
@fightormon5 жыл бұрын
Basically: Full contact striking, with elbows, knees, headbutts. Throws and up to 30 seconds grappling before being stood up again.
@JKMannsr5 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute those Helmet like daido juku or not shorinji kempo
@gabrielcalvin4325 Жыл бұрын
These helmets are the Daido Juku ones. I used Shorinji Kempo helmets once in Japan; those were different. Either way, lots of fun. :)
@JKMannsr Жыл бұрын
@@JKMannsr consulta master. Karate goju ryu puede ganarle o tambien darle pelea a un luchador de judo y/o jiujitsu?
@lucaspisculichi Жыл бұрын
I'd say both of these gents are quite proficient
@gregs_garage4 жыл бұрын
All Karate should be in full contact. I hold a Nidan in Karate. I switched to Muay Thai SO GLAD I DID.
@barriocubalindo3 ай бұрын
All karate-ka should at one time or another train in Muay Thai. They should also train in boxing and Savate, that's how originally karate was meant to do, to train and learn from all other styles and systems. The original masters travel to China and Korea to learn from every one. That's how karate continued to develop, but then WWII happened.
@tatumergo39315 сағат бұрын
cool didnt know that karate has ground fight
@dayman1611726 жыл бұрын
Is this Daido juku kudo?
@manguel35 жыл бұрын
These are Goju-ryu practitioners doing a type of sparring quite similar to Daido Juku rules.
@JKMannsr5 жыл бұрын
did u call this Karate?
@CanalDoNoza6 жыл бұрын
Its "you".
@OkurkaBinLadin5 жыл бұрын
Muy bueno
@nicolasvelazco37713 жыл бұрын
This is karate or kusty
@SMuneeshwar2 жыл бұрын
Very nice.
@jordiortega44364 ай бұрын
Umm, is this really Goju ryu? I train Shito Ryu, so I dont really know, can someone confirm this for me?
@blackdarius13427 жыл бұрын
It's an official event of the IOGKF-USA, so it's really Goju in that respect. If this looks different than what you're used to, see the reply below to Draconic Ryuken. :)
@jeffmann64377 жыл бұрын
No is not
@vicentegeonix4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that Daido Juku? To everyone who says that even Karate has started incorporating grappling in its system, must know that Daidu Juku (Kudo) has been doing it for far more years than MMA.
@kyoshinronin6 жыл бұрын
Grappling was always part of karate.
@OkurkaBinLadin5 жыл бұрын
almost like daidojuku kudo
@ajinohimono114 жыл бұрын
Better than a UFC match 😜
@alexjkazama97536 ай бұрын
ISSO SIM É KARATÊ DE VERDADE 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
@t.u91123 жыл бұрын
@Aumima Mimadino E aiiii, siiim meu sonho treinar... acho lindo demais e muito mais foda
@t.u91123 жыл бұрын
@Aumima Mimadino muito booom, devia voltar a treinar.. aproveita que você tem e eu não, ai fico so na vontade 😓😓😓😓
@t.u91123 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm a big fan of Goju Ryu Karate! There are not many KZhead channels on GojuRyu, there are mostly Shotokan. I recommend Karatemo's channel for Goju Ryu fans: www.youtube.com/@karatemo
@JulieRocks Жыл бұрын
Consulta goju ryu tiene tecnicas de luxaciones agarres y derribos. Puede ganarle a luchadores de jiujitsu o judo?
@lucaspisculichi Жыл бұрын
MMA ?
@lucianozakirjorge24596 ай бұрын
this looks like modern ju jutsu too.. so many martial arts out there lol
@Drikkerbadevand2 жыл бұрын
thats real goju ryu!!!
@AndresBioinformatica3 жыл бұрын
If either one of those people were just a little less good at karate and better at ju jitsu, that fight would have ended a lot sooner. Ju Jitsu incorporated with judo is generally going to come on top in every fight, as most fights make it to the ground.
@bryanbrown88706 жыл бұрын
Bjj came from judo and mix it with catch at atsrat and with everything else in process, all the stuff Royce did in UFC you can find at traditional judo howere bjj evolve too much after 1993
@oneguy72025 жыл бұрын
Isnt this the style "daido yuku"?
@namelesssnitchy3 жыл бұрын
No, Kudo as it is known is a mixture of karate with judo and other martial arts, but it is very similar to the original form of Okinawan karate, as karate was initially a mixture of Tegumi (grab fighting) with other arts.
@HayashiCatholic2 жыл бұрын
@@HayashiCatholic seems like the best karate style to me. We want a full fighting / defense sport
To all the people writing ''This isn't Karate'': Okinawan Karate used to be about continuous adaptation to modern threats. As soon as protective gear was available, they started using it for full-contact matches.
i wish we would do this stuff in kyokushin.
@@mnlbt me too, my master doesn't wants to include head striking and other stuff that aren't present in Kyokushin
@@user-ry1qn3wq1m update: i switched to kudo after training kyokushin my whole youth it gives me everything i need and: headstrikes, grappling, takedowns and its budo
@@mnlbt that's great, sadly there's no Kudo dojo's on my country lol
@@user-ry1qn3wq1m yeah its a pretty small sport.. where you from?
This is real karate as it should be, none of this point-scoring crap in modern karate. Grappling is very much a part of karate and this has been confirmed by various karate historians.
Agreed. In isshinryu karate back in the 1990's and early 2000s we worked on submissions just as much as we did striking. When we sparred in my old sensei's dojo, if it went to the ground, he let it go for several minutes to see what would happen. I eventually got so good at beating the other brown and black belts that he started handicapping me by giving my opponents weapons and I had to fight with no weapon vs them with an escrima stick or okinawan bo, and I was expected to disarm the other brown and black belt students. Real street defense requires you learn to full contact "as close to no rules as possible" sparring.
The problem is not the point-scoring system, it's the lack of full-contact criteria needed for an honest assessment of a scoring point. What you're referring to is the modern shiai sport karate, which basically has become like modern Olympic fencing. Basically a game of tag! In the early days of karate competition, scoring was similar in concept to judo's scoring criteria. A full Ippon was only awarded by KO or incapacitation (unable to continue fighting). Wazari for a full-contact strike with power and control, but not resulting in KO or a submission (successful strike, but opponent can recover immediately). Yuko for successful strikes but with no effect (strikes landing on target but no effect, just the potential to have caused damage if the technique had been executed properly). The criteria for Wazari (half point) is two wazaris would amount to a full ippon. Similar in concept to boxing's knock down, but with no KO or TKO. Yuko was just the total amount of strikes landed but with no effect. This in turn would not amount to a full Wazari, just to brake a stalemate. Further criteria for Wazari is a combination technique in which opponent is knock down by a sweep. It must be preceeded by a combination of strikes (knock down rules). Also a combination of strikes that would cause a momentary knock down (high-low or continuous combination technique). Because of the inherent danger involved, without proper protection equipment, these type of competitions were no longer permitted.
This is the style I want to practice!! Grappling + Striking = Realism 🥋
Yes, we also can do bunkai on there
This is how isshinryu and gojuryu used to train and spar every day. Sadly, most dojos no longer train and fight like this. I trained 5 days per week under a 4th degree black belt 3 hours per day. He was an 8 years veteran on the marine corps. Now people don't do real sparring, they do shitty points sparring and they get their ass kicked when they get in a real street self defense situation. In isshinryu dojos in the late 1990 and early 2000s era, we used to full contact spar and fight on the ground too, and I was one of the best at it.
@@WadeSmith-oe5xd . Here's hoping that karate combat evolves and takes off. So far it has only been a promotional showcase event.
This is great. If they spar like this and train forms and conditioning like the Okinawan folks, I'd call that a hell of a martial art, by any standards!
I fully agree with you! If you're into Goju Ryu Karate, I recommend watching Karatemo's videos too! www.youtube.com/@karatemo
This is awesome. This is the type of evolution in sparring karate needs in order to stay relevant and practical. Also Props to the one kid that new a little bit of jiujitsu.
This type of sparring is classic in all karate derived from Naha-te.
This isn't evolution.....it's old school karate
This is Okinawa Karate
I see a good fight and I found it funny that people think that thing fake because it's not like karate, those people should really learn how to fight lol. Kyokushin karate practicer OSU
Bu TianHao that's because many people in KZhead comment section never even fought. In fact these two will murder those keyboard warriors.
They just watch MMA Fights but never in full contact or even street fight.
I am a Goju-Ryu karatéka from Montréal, I always wanted to try or change to Muay Thai because I don't fight in my dojo, it depresses me because I know can be a good fighter. But now that I'm seeing this I discovered more about Goju-Ryu and it gives me hope I can compete and represent my dojo.
Goju Ryu is amazing! A perfect balance between grappling + striking while still paying homage to Okinawan tradition.
I'm looking for a karate discipline to practice, after 10 years of judo. I think I found it!
All these people commenting it’s not karate and stuff, it was actually pretty entertaining to watch and was better than most karate fighting videos I’ve seen.
Looks way better than all the dancing and hopping in garbage WKF videos.
It is karate though!
@@thetoughguy7 I agree. As soon as I see the two karatekas start that ridiculous bouncing I'm out.
For all keyboard warriors calling it "not Karate" or "similar to Kudo" , they better know the meaning of the Japanese term Kumite. Kumi= Freestyle/engagement of grappling, Te= Hands/Arms. Goju Ryu incorporates Iri Kumi, i.e., freestyle fighting/sparring as per Okinawan dialect. Goju Ryu itself means Go= Hard striking, i.e., Closed hand punches & Kicking techniques with linear movements , Ju= Soft/open hand techniques with more circular movements, i.e., attack, block & control opponent using joint locks, grappling, takedowns, and throws!! Btw, Kyokushin Karate style is a descendant style of Goju Ryu Karate & Seidokaikan Karate & Kudo, both are descendants of Kyokushin Karate!! I myself am a 4th Dan Black Belt in Goju Ryu Karate & have sparred like this wearing only groin guard but no headgear & gloves!!KBWs kindly make a note & increase the sphere of their martial arts knowledge!!
Y dime . Has peleado contra luchadores de judo o jiujitsu? Mamejan tecnicas similares a estos o mejores que el jiujitsu? Goju ryu puede ganarle a un rival de jiujitsu y judo?
This is very good, sparring is about striking, throwing down nd still working on the ground to submit your opponent. That's great traditional karaté is better than modern
I think so too! If you're interested in Goju Ryu Karate, I recommend Karatemo's videos: www.youtube.com/@karatemo
My son is also doing Goju-Ryu Karate and his Sensei also let them do the full contact version Kumite. Altough they do Sports Kumite they also compete in some full contact cents. His Sensei still wants his students to gain experience in full contact karate and let them use all the techniques they are learned and practiced.
I practice Goju Ryu here in Brisbane and we do kumite with pads almost weekly.. light contact with control focusing on all the techniques we've been learning. Sometimes we go a little harder but that always comes down to you and your partner, if it's mutual, you go as hard as you like, it's good fun 😄 It's fundamental to really developing your skills. For the younger kids it's not needed as much but good to get them having a go and understanding what it's like to use what you've learned in a real setting. Great that your boy is into it, hope he really enjoys the Karate journey 🙏🏻
pardon my ignorance; I thought Goju ryu karate does not allow full contact. This is really good to see karate doing full contact. Osu from Kyokushin and shotokan.
If you're thinking of most Goju-ryu, coming from mainland Japan and being more sport-oriented, then you're right to find this style of sparring unusual. The Okinawans did more of this type of continuous sparring, but what you see here is different, as it incorporates modern protective gear, non-Okinawan grappling influence, and the whole judging system. There are lots of ways to spar, and they all have their respective benefits. This is just one particular way of doing it. There's no official Goju kumite. Good luck with your own training!
I've seen Gojuryu schools that sparred full-contact but with Kyokushin-like rules with no head punching...
depends on the dojo i would think my shotokan dojo does touch contact up till 1st kyu then it starts to become brutal
Goju in Okinawa they are flexibel. They can fight full contact and wkf style. They join both tournament.
yong Un Mao you can train karate however you want. It’s not what you train, it’s how you train. These guys have dispensed with the WKF like rule base for karate kumite and adopted a more practical MMA set of rules.
This is a great base for MMA. Both striking a grappling. Makes you a well-rounded fighter. Take GSP for example, one of greatest champion in UFC.
👍👍
Really glad to see Karate sparring that goes to this level while still being safe (as safe as this stuff can be). Great work.
People saying it's kudo didn't read the discription. I do goju and we fight like this for all our sparring
Your dojo sounds great.
@@Bloodletter8 thanks i'm going there now
Yep, i think that goju ryu and kudo are very similar in some aspects. Kudo is more sport oriented and borrows some techniques from other martial arts, but the pursue of effectiveness is the same. It depends on how you train it of course. I'm sure there are goju ryu dojos around where they only do kata and never spar, but in this case, it's great.
Kudo is basically Goju-Ryu without the kata anyway
Its gone full circle In 1970s karate And kick boxing You could use throws And fight on the ground
This is good kumite imo. Everyone needs to learn striking and grappling nowadays in this MMA crazed era. Btw, ignore the naysayers in the comments section. Either they show videos of themselves doing better otherwise their comments is nothing but hot, keyboard warrior air! Osu!
The method is great, they have a ways to go in skill but if the schools adopted this as the default for sparring they’d get very good over the next few years
That was great sparring it had the right balance off power and technique, the kids loved the power shots and take downs bless them, the crowd loved it !
Original.karate had grappling mixed in good job
Thats mma to be honest punches look like boxing added muay thai checks added bjj grappling added ground and pound
Karate was mma bro, use everything you can to win a fight. It was called tode,it originated in okinawa, and every city had its style. Designed to defend yourself unarmed, since the Japanese empire forbade okinawans to carry a sword. Karate never was a unique entity and it was much different from what people see today. Shotokan popularized karate worldwide but that style is only 100 years old and it's not in any shape or form true karate. It took a lot of inspirations from boxing too.
@@kakuto435 oh I’m learning goju Ryu
@@fcbfreviews yeah goju ryu is the best
@@kakuto435 Specially the original Okinawa karate it has punches, kicks, elbows, knees, throws, grappling, and weapons training,
I've compete in Okinawa, with IOGKF in 1991. Irikumi. then had Full Contact gear, pads and gloves. They've changed now.... Fantastic display, missing that Kumite
Excelent fight!!, karate Goju Ryu is beautifull and efective for a real situation, greetings from Colombia.
I also think Goju Ryu is effective and beautiful at the same time. I suggest watching Karatemo's videos too. He practices Goju Ryu: www.youtube.com/@karatemo
I liked this. Good to see Karate being tested in a contact environment that includes ground work. Thank you for posting. I can't make out the logos on the uniforms, is this Goju Morio HIgaonna's organization?
I like your karate school
IOGKF
@@SenseiEli Thank you.
Yeah is IOGKF, the best goju ryu organization
Come on. No techniqe, poor amateur street fight. Who gave them the black belts?
That is awesome and exactly what i want to see in TMA
Nice to see. It always felt to me like karate and other arts sayed to be ,,ineffective" arent really bad but rather its the spirit that got lost.
Yes. It's Goju Ryu. That is the symbol of Morio Higaonna sensei's Goju Ryu on their DoGi.
this is really similar to Kudo, I like it
O, how I miss practicing GoJu Ryu. 💔
You can train/apply karate however you want. It’s not what you train, it’s how you train. These guys have dispensed with the WKF like rule base for karate kumite and adopted a more practical MMA set. Karate was never designed for point scoring, it was designed to mess people up!
is mma really all that practical tho? pretty sure they dont train to deal with opponents biting or clawing at ur eyes lol
Finally a kumite video that isn't people cat-fighting or people just jumping back and ki'ing for no reason
Tell me about it. As someone who's interested in training Goju-Ryu, the slap fighting doesn't make it look good.
es bueno ver que muchos estilos de karate estan incorporando tecnicas de judo y jujitsu.....el karate esta definitivamente volviendo a sus origenes
Não, não é verdade. Essas técnicas já existiam no karate original. Não é jiujitsu e judo
@@viktor7208 o kung fu e o karate originais já tinham armlock e outras técnicas bem antes mas a sportização da arte marcial acabou com a luta.
This is how i want my dojo to be if i ever wanted to start my own dojo
If you're into Goju Ryu Karate, I recommend watching Karatemo's videos too! www.youtube.com/@karatemo
Nice, getting to Kudo level of full contact.
It's amusing to watch. And I love those astronaut helmets too.
This kind of fight IS very important to practise. But Real fight without any protection,IS in the first 5secondes . It s for this reason morio higaonna said , fight IS ippon kumite. No less, no more.
I'm liking this a lot. I have a bit of a background in Kyokushin, Syoei Juku Karate, Muay Thai and I've trained some BJJ. I hear references to Kudo/Daidojuku (another great art), and seeing how Goju does it, then this is awesome. An art that I know will keep up with modern times. Keep up the good work, guys. OSSU!
This may be called Goju-ryu..but they are definitely fighting under Kudo ruleset. I love it though! - Kyokushin and Daidojuku blackbelt here. OSU!
Whats Syoei Juku Karate? Never heard off?
Best karate fighting I've ever seen!!
Good fight! I like the mix of skills.
Love your video great work from Israel!
Thanks Eli! Check out the most recent fight we posted with my son. It's better than this one. :)
Awesome. Great Okinawan Goju Ryu 👍
Better than most of the Karate I've seen.
You're used to watch sports karate.
Always fun to see sensei roll. ;)
This is great conditioning training🤜🏽we trained just like this. Find your way!
Before there is MMA, there is Karate...
It's interesting that so many people equate style with the rule-set followed in kumite. While different arts correlate with different rule sets, it seems to me that any style can use any set of rules in the practice of an art. In fact, the more ways you spar, the better for developing an effective and well-rounded martial artist. So yes, this particular match is comparable to the rules used in Daido Juku, which is comparable to MMA. At other times we use ippon rules. With regard to the people who say, "This isn't Goju-ryu!" If they mean that we both really suck and are a disgrace to the legacy of Chojun Miyagi... well, then, OK. But if they mean we're not doing ippon kumite, then I would argue that they have a very provincial understanding of karate.
Out of curiosity, why if one is still on ones feet and one's opponent is on the ground would one go for a mount rather than circling around and going for either kicks or stamps to the grounded opponents head or ribs?
GREAT! Fight goes to the ground and does not get stopped. GOOD.
Yes this is real karate . Ahmad from Iran
Thank you Ahmad! A salaam alaikum.
Really good fight love goju ryu
Is there a reason no elbows were used as I know they are used in Goju Ryu?
They were permitted; just didn't happen. :)
My question is, if someone plays karate kyokushin, judo and kick boxing, would he or she be better than fighting someone that plays this type of karate because they've got experience in 3 different fields? Or is just better to attend this type of karate from the beginning? To be honest, I've always heard about this type of karate but now till I knew how they fought and honestly I liked it. I'm in all three karate kyokushin, judo and kick boxing because all three complete each other to be a fulll packed and prepared fighter. Osu.
Goju-Ryu esse estilo é bem legal 👊😎
This looks like a hell of a lot of fun! My only criticism is that at one point, one of the fighters got mounted by the other, and he tried to defend by extending his arms to punch. If you do that against someone who is well-versed in some kind of jacket wrestling (Judo/BJJ/Sambo/etc), there's a huge risk of getting caught with a straight armbar (juji-gatame). But I'm no expert on anything though, so please don't take it like I'm trying to talk down to anyone; just my observation. Happy training!
Karate originally had grappling (mainly stand up/clinch work)and throws. What you usually see is the westernized and bastardized version of Karate here in America.
Muito boa luta, parabéns
I fought Iri-kumi under Hanshi Morio Higaonna and Shihan Rodney Hu Sr. Who are the fighters on this video, and what year was it video?
It was 2015. The guy starting with his back to the camera is me, and the other is a guy named Jeremy from CT. Not big shots in the IOGKF - just a couple of guys who like karate.
JKMannsr 😎 thank you for the post and reply. I was just wondering. I am with Sensei Higaonna and Sensei Rodney Hu Sr
didn´t know that Goju ryu have full-contact kumite. when i was traning years ago the only option was the old basic point system. Yuko, Wazari and Ippon.
This is the real karate.
This is awesome 👍
In terms of grappling, does Goju use the same techniques as BJJ or is it completely different?
It's mostly tegumi and some judo
Only problem with gloves and face shields is that it encourages indiscriminate punching to the skull. In the true true you don't punch the skull. You punch the jawbone or use open handed technique. "break the thumb you've killed the family" That being said, this training protocol is better than what 99.9% of karate school will use. This (with shin guards) is perfect for kids and beginners.
Fair enough! But both of us have beautiful faces and smiles we want to keep looking good for many years to come. :)
I agree. If you aint making money no reason to bust up the face. Its just a hobby
I assume it´s IOGKF. Great to see creative approach to training. Good fight, guys show heart. Why shouldn´t it be Goju? It´s just another training method. How could somebody expect true Goju in a competition type fight? There is no first attack in Goju kata. The guys would be just stairing at each other, waiting for the other to attack. How could you defend in a competition match by broking elbows, knees and similar? There will never be true Goju in a competition match.
As a matter of fact, there is not true martial arts of any type in any tournament... Even boxing, get rid of the gloves and it becomes a totally different animal... As soon as it is a "tournament", then it becomes a sport.
They think MMA is real, Silat in its old forms are the arts of kill. Some Silat Style dont have hand to hand combat, they rely everything with weapon only. They only need one slice and the fight is over.
Karatê lindo de se ver OSS
This isn’t gojo ryu this is kudo
Dude great punches checks ground fights
Is it bogu kumite? (Kumite used in traditional styles of karate)
Yes. In Goju ryu it's called Iri Kumi :)
I'm rewatching this, and yeah, when you can punch as hard as a Gojuryu fighter is supposed to punch if they've been trained correctly, the bullet-proof glass on the face is necessary for sparring, otherwise you'd break one another's nose or jaw every time you punched them.
Without proper safety equipment protection, applying karate full-contact is dangerous. Real karate training is about the knock down one punch or strike method (Ikken Hissatsu)!
What weren't they bouncing???
Because in full-contact karate there's no bouncing. That's just something shiai sport-karate does to develop dynamism, since sport karate is a game of touch and not about effective technique. In full-contact karate you need to be grounded, otherwise you just get thrown around like a rag doll...
Strong karate,this is what karate should be about
Thanks. I just posted a new video yesterday of my son fighting this past weekend. Same rules. Check it out.
Traditional Schools that Modernize have such scary fighters
Now that is karate!
It’s nice to see that there are other karateka engaging in continuous sparring with heavy-full contact. My only gripe is the plastic face shields. If the ultimate goal is self defense you need to learn to take a face punch and how to fight through the pain/discomfort of it.
i get what your saying but lets face it most people do martial arts because they enjoy it the moment they start getting smacked in the face and risk getting a broken nose or something there going to leave i think the face plates are a nice compromise as you can take a body punch without risking disfigurement ive seen clubs that wear foot, shin, groin and helmet protection along with huge boxing gloves you feel like the michelin man and you learn nothing but this i actualy like personaly
@@kevlarchicken i mean there's a balance between realism and safety always, but there is no, or at least shouldn't be a risk of disfigurement from a face punch in sparring. either practice in the dojo, or competition. the face protectors create a false sense of security about taking a face punch (if anyone actually bothers to throw them) and it shifts the 'meta' of the fight so to speak away from face punches since they won't cause pain they provide no deterrence, and very little advantage of any sort. why punch the face when you can hit them in the solar plexus and knock the wind out of them for example?
@@johnpjones1775 again i agree they do create a false sense of security if i were to introduce them it would probably only be for the lower grades were you dont have nearly as much control as a dan grade should
WATH IS THIS?
That seems to be daido juku (kudo) gi, helmet and stance.
For those in the know, are submissions permitted in this? Last time I did Karate was 20 years ago (Goju Ryu) and as far as I know nothing like this existed then.
Yes, submissions were permitted. (Chokes are hard to get, though, with the helmets.)
What association were you with? Bogu kumite or irikumi go kumite as a rule set was created in 1927 by The Karate Study Group of Tokyo Imperial University, which devised its own armoured karate system and began to practice sport Karate. Then was brought to Okinawa's school system by Kentsū Yabu who adopted armour in Karate while teaching it at Okinawa Prefectural Normal School. Also in Okinawa, for a while, sparring while wearing armor was also used in Shigeru Nakamura's "Okinawan Kenpo". Remember the Pinan kata were developed for the Okinawan school system by Anko Itosu between 1905 & 1907. Before the development of Pinan the Naihanchi were taught. Then in 1940 Gekisai Dai Ichi by Shōshin Nagamine and Gekisai Dai Ni by Chōjun Miyagi in 1940. The semi-contact form of karate was developed as a kyōgi during the USA miliatary occupation, so that Karate could become a legal sporting game post 1950 when Kendo became legal.
@@kevionrogers2605 it was simply called Canada Goju Ryu, based in Toronto. Light contact point sparring was the method
Kudo?
Karate or MMA?
Nice space helmets.
Karate students. Is this the new direction of tournament fighting? Are more and more tournaments looking like the MMA?
Why not? Karate should be flexible and evolve. Karate always including throws and grappling, it just got lost in the McDojofication in the US. These guys are taking karate back to its roots
My question? Is it happening today and common. Or is this just a local event
@@richx5064 Depends on school and its leaders. I believe it does and should become more common.
This form is more like the original karate form, karate has always been a complete art, what we see in the WKF is not 10% of what is taught.
What were the rules of this kumite?
Basically: Full contact striking, with elbows, knees, headbutts. Throws and up to 30 seconds grappling before being stood up again.
Wait a minute those Helmet like daido juku or not shorinji kempo
These helmets are the Daido Juku ones. I used Shorinji Kempo helmets once in Japan; those were different. Either way, lots of fun. :)
@@JKMannsr consulta master. Karate goju ryu puede ganarle o tambien darle pelea a un luchador de judo y/o jiujitsu?
I'd say both of these gents are quite proficient
All Karate should be in full contact. I hold a Nidan in Karate. I switched to Muay Thai SO GLAD I DID.
All karate-ka should at one time or another train in Muay Thai. They should also train in boxing and Savate, that's how originally karate was meant to do, to train and learn from all other styles and systems. The original masters travel to China and Korea to learn from every one. That's how karate continued to develop, but then WWII happened.
cool didnt know that karate has ground fight
Is this Daido juku kudo?
These are Goju-ryu practitioners doing a type of sparring quite similar to Daido Juku rules.
did u call this Karate?
Its "you".
Muy bueno
This is karate or kusty
Very nice.
Umm, is this really Goju ryu? I train Shito Ryu, so I dont really know, can someone confirm this for me?
It's an official event of the IOGKF-USA, so it's really Goju in that respect. If this looks different than what you're used to, see the reply below to Draconic Ryuken. :)
No is not
Isn't that Daido Juku? To everyone who says that even Karate has started incorporating grappling in its system, must know that Daidu Juku (Kudo) has been doing it for far more years than MMA.
Grappling was always part of karate.
almost like daidojuku kudo
Better than a UFC match 😜
ISSO SIM É KARATÊ DE VERDADE 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
@Aumima Mimadino E aiiii, siiim meu sonho treinar... acho lindo demais e muito mais foda
@Aumima Mimadino muito booom, devia voltar a treinar.. aproveita que você tem e eu não, ai fico so na vontade 😓😓😓😓
Great video! I'm a big fan of Goju Ryu Karate! There are not many KZhead channels on GojuRyu, there are mostly Shotokan. I recommend Karatemo's channel for Goju Ryu fans: www.youtube.com/@karatemo
Consulta goju ryu tiene tecnicas de luxaciones agarres y derribos. Puede ganarle a luchadores de jiujitsu o judo?
MMA ?
this looks like modern ju jutsu too.. so many martial arts out there lol
thats real goju ryu!!!
If either one of those people were just a little less good at karate and better at ju jitsu, that fight would have ended a lot sooner. Ju Jitsu incorporated with judo is generally going to come on top in every fight, as most fights make it to the ground.
Bjj came from judo and mix it with catch at atsrat and with everything else in process, all the stuff Royce did in UFC you can find at traditional judo howere bjj evolve too much after 1993
Isnt this the style "daido yuku"?
No, Kudo as it is known is a mixture of karate with judo and other martial arts, but it is very similar to the original form of Okinawan karate, as karate was initially a mixture of Tegumi (grab fighting) with other arts.
@@HayashiCatholic seems like the best karate style to me. We want a full fighting / defense sport
@@namelesssnitchy I fully agree.
Goju ryu is deadly