Plane Can't Land Because Landing Gear Won't Come Out
2023 ж. 2 Қыр.
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Delta pilots struggle with malfunction when they can't get their gear to go down during landing.
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If it hasn't gone down in four hours you're supposed to seek medical attention
before any blood clots get into your brain
😆😆😆😆
bruh lmao
😂
Lmfao 😂😆
"If the gear had a problem in Vegas, they would stay in Vegas." I see what you did there.
Lol
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"they" does not fly because your alleged 'gear' has a single problem. 9-stars tho you're less of a loser than me. hold on i'ma F5 my life!
I'm a former USAF ARFF firefighter. A couple of things...the spotter was saying he would expect that the brakes would be hosed down, since he thought they were on fire. They weren't on fire, although they were likely very hot. It was standard procedure to NOT apply water to hot brakes, since the thermal shock of the cold water on hot brakes could cause them to shatter (explode, if you will) causing all sorts of additional problems (shrapnel into the wings and fuel tanks, tires exploding and causing gear to collapse, etc etc ). Typically, we would have the aircraft stay where it was until the brakes cooled down on their own. Of course, if the brakes were indeed on fire, then all bets are off, and there would have been agent applied as needed. And, using the turret nozzles (not cannons) that are both on the roof and the bumper of the apparatus, is a blast! Kelsey, if you stop into an ARFF station and tell them you're a pilot, I'll bet you can get them to take you out in a truck and play with the turrets. They probably won't let you shoot foam (it's expensive), but I'll bet they let you shoot all the water you want.
LOL, go shoot the water cannon Kelsey!
As a pilot myself, I don't know why this never occurred to me. Heading over to the ARFF station on my next day off! Maybe if I buy them pizza they'll let me play with the trucks
It's never a bad idea to make a good impression on the guys and gals who might save your ass. @@caprica_13
This is adorable. Also, I’m a little pleased with myself because I guessed a few things right on this video, including the fact that they’d spray the brakes with some foam agent rather than water. I feel like water hitting friction heat would end poorly; I must have heard something somewhere to that effect since I’m not remotely in any related career.
And Yeah, you're gonna get wet!
Actual engineer here: When you do a landing gear gravity extension the landing gear hydraulic circuit is depressurised, allowing the landing gear and gear doors to free-fall to the down position. Obviously you can't retract the doors or use any kind of hydraulic actuation with a depressurised system. Just putting it out here for those not familiar with AC systems, like the spotter.
IIRC (NOT a pilot), there’s a valve that closes off the hydraulic system in the gear bay to keep the rest of the system powered up.
I wonder if the multi-directional loading of internebularly forces placed panometric pressure on the spurving bearing assembly. On some models of the 757, the logarithmic bearing race is known for premature failure as the amulite composition is prone to transverse unilateral fatigue. Side fumbling occurs which stresses the lotus-delta marzelvane pressure casing.
Thanks for confirming my suspicion.
@@TheWalterHWhiteThis is correct.
@@dk2428 Relax, he's (she's, it's) just having some fun. Lay off the coffee, or meth.
My main takeaway from this video is that Kelsey really wants to fire the cannon on a fire truck.
Don't forget about the snacks.
…but only if free snacks are also provided.
@@bertblankenstein3738You beat me to the punch
We all do
@@bertblankenstein3738 A snack cannon?
While you were cranking the gear down you should have told the passengers you were winding the spring to keep the props turning. Lol
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On this aircraft type the gear doors stay extended after an alternate gear extension (free fall). This is because no hydraulics are involved in an alternate gear extension and therefore no hydraulics available to retract the doors.
That's what I thought with a free fall gear extension. Thank you.
Thanks. I wondered about that.
The 757 Alt Ext System uses an electric motor to release the uplocks and allow the doors and gear to free-fall to the down position via gravity when the main hydraulics fail.
@@KainsAddiction I've just done a year writing essays about accidents caused by health and safety violations/air crash engineering, and do I got news for you about 'common sense' (it's usually wrong and actually 'confirmation bias' which is the cause of a scary number of transport accidents)
Yep. Usually the doors will stay open because the normal hydraulics are disconnected allowing everything to "gravity drop," and the down locks are designed to always automatically engage without power once the wheel strut is fully down. Seeing the doors still open is a telltale sign that the crew did a manual extension.
I was on the last commerical plane to ever fly into Hong Kong's old airport, and we got a fire truck water cannon salute as we taxied to the ramp. Was a really cool experience and, fortunately, my only-ever encounter with airport emergency vehicles.
So you were one of the last people to get a free amusement park thrill ride as the plane flew over the buildings and banked into the runway'
@@BillinHungary yes that was a crazy approach.
Yeah, if you're a flight nerd with a sim and never tried the actual Kai-tak approach: It's INSANE. @@CanadaMatt
I was on the last United flight to Kai-Tak and remember the thrill ride to land. And we were handed a little certificate acknowledging that, which was neat. Also once saw a model of what the airline pilots study for that amusement park thrill ride, it was something seeing minature skyscrapers and a plastic path on the model to guide pilots how to land. 😅
Passenger “captain? (Everyone wearing a uniform and sitting at the front is a captain-according to passengers), why are you cranking the handle?” Kelsey “sir, it’s ok. No problem here. The rubber band for the propeller broke, just giving her a coupling of winds to balance out the the other prop”
My father was flying from Pontiac City Airport in Michigan, south to an airport in Florida. He owned his pride and joy; a little “Piper Cub”. For safety reasons he had a backup radio installed and also a transponder so major airport could see him on their radar … I was an Army Paratrooper and know little of anything about aircraft as I always left the planes early… ;) On a trip down to Florida, he got caught in a storm system and he called Atlanta Airport as he was totally blind up there in the clouds. That airport’s controller took over, and talked my dad down through the clouds and darkness… right to the airport runway. My Dad said when he dropped out of the clouds the runway was right in front of his pattern and he safely landed. He later took his instrument training course … just in case. My father was an orphan and had an 8th grade education, lived on a farm from the age of 13 as they did with orphan boys in the depression, then WWII. Once he put on those head phones after his inspection, he was a different man. Since I was a professional artist, when I flew back to the USA for a visit from Australia, I painted a WWII nose art of a “Hornet” with a leather cap and goggles on the nose and his plane’s name on the tail… I also gave him an Australian WWII slouch hat, which he wore every time he flew. He passed away from lung cancer (smoked like a chimney his whole life)… we had are differences, but watching your videos brings up the happy times we flew together, and this story reminds me how he survived that deadly storm. Thanks Kelsey … you have no idea how much you bring back the happy times we had.
RIP.
Awesome story that was truly heart warming. I hope little memories like this get passed down to the next generation
While the engineers are a wealth of knowledge putting those checklists together... I would be remiss in not pointing out the amazing flight crew members that work at the OEM that go through HOURS of work in the simulators to develop the ordering of those checklists. Having taken part in some of that work, there is a back and forth between engineering and the pilot community to come to an agreement in the order of events that will leave the aircraft in the most desirable state for any given anomaly.
And sometimes the engineers have to go back & redo & simplify the QRA manual. Streamline it more.
I'm glad to hear there is that teamwork. Having worked as an engineer, too often there was that attitude that we were (or were suppose to be) smarter than anyone else.
@@stuarthall3874 it is teamwork. At least supposed to be. Sometimes somebody drops the ball. It's happened at everyone's level at some point. We're only human.
Yup, even as a defense contractor EE I used to consult techs as part of the other applicable engineering disciplines (dynamics/packaging/etc). They do bring unique things to the table, no doubt about it. They are, after all, the 'hands on guys' (and gals) on the front end builds, and I encouraged 'mine' to speak up when they had something to say...even a good joke, or any questions. :-) We also had some of what we called supertechs that had knowledge that moved up into engineering territory, at least to some degree. They were typically hobbyists at home, and had done design and integration for home projects, and knew their way around a schematic. A few of those would ask questions about a card I'd designed and I was always happy to answer them. Knowledge is power. My son is non degreed and doing engineering level consulting for a few different companies, at commensurate engineering pay. Mostly SW, but some hardware.
@@shadowbeast2276just like sully did in 2009
I have only flown once, I so wish Kelsey was my pilot. In 2019 I was leaving Ukraine to the UK via Hungary. The small propeller plane that was due was snowed in someplace so a replacement lear jet was found. We had a Russian flight crew who could not speak Hungarian, a Hungarian flight attendant who could not speak Russian and Ukrainian passengers. The Hungarian flight attendant did her routine briefing, pointing to doors that were not there and demonstrated lifejackets we could not find. A fire truck rolled up to connect a cable to the plane - no-one knew why. Someone threw up over the seat in front of them before takeoff. The flight attendant seemed surprised as we started to take off and scrambled to her seat, she stayed there for the whole flight and not one announcement was made until the door opened at Heathrow airport. Our luggage enjoyed a smooth flight to Romania.
Funny story. If Kelsey had been your pilot, that would have been yet another language added to the mix!
Sounds like an interesting flight;)
"Our luggage enjoyed a smooth flight to Romania." LOL! Thanks for sharing a good story and a great laugh today. Hope you've been finally reacquainted with your luggage, but who knows....it might be sitting in an airport somewhere waiting for you.
That is crazy! Thank you for sharing your story and giving me a couple laughs.
Connecting a cable to the plane is quite normal. It can be a ground power unit or ground air supply. Or just refueling.
It seems that the only person getting over excited was the commentator/observer with the camera. The fire service would only hose down the aircraft if there was an indication of an active fire, because cleaning up the mess afterwards is going to be fun! and there is less likelihood of causing further damage to the under gear, makes the investigation afterwards easier. Well done to the pilot, a perfect landing.
ATC trainee here, Kelsey's spot-on with the ATC speak. My instructors have some stories about gear up landings and they emphasize you have to say "you gear APPEARS down". We can't know if it's locked or not, we can only tell the pilots what we see.
You mean you’re training to join the ATCMen? Sounds awesome.
I found the planespotter's chatter to be a bit annoying as often as not. one of those cases where they don't know as much as they think they know, but they are very excited about having the chance to show off. and yes, Kelsey, it's fun running a master stream device.
Yeah - it was almost like he was enjoying it a bit too much. Like he wanted things to go wrong. No concern in his voice. Just looking to see what he could get out of it.
Found him a lot more than a little annoying and yeah he sounded excited for things to go wrong.
I had to turn my volume off except when Kelsey talked. Anoooyyying!
@@bobthedemon1975 I'm sure he was excited about it. and I can understand that. but he was still a bit annoying.
It’s funny to listen to non aviators talk about it. Everyone thinks they know everything about it. I’m an airline pilot and don’t know as much as these people think they know. It’s just funny to me.
When I was about 7 or 8 this happened to an airpalane my whole family was flying on. The captain announced that we had some technical dificulties but nothing to worry about. The crew was really professional and the pilots dumped fuel and cercled the airport a few times but the other landing gear finally lowered and locked in place. Smooth landing and lots of applause followed. I still remember it like yesterday even 45 years later.
You should ALWAYS applaud a pilots landing.
@@jakehildebrand1824please no. they dont hear it and it's tacky.
@@kingsharkoon I'm a pilot, so I think I know a little more about what pilots like than you do pal.
@@jakehildebrand1824 then you're a loser lol, imagine telling people that you should be applauded for _doing your job_. get a grip pal.
@@jakehildebrand1824Please stop, you are not a real pilot.
My brother is Ret. AirForce and my dad was all proud when he got his wings and would brag to everyone. Naturally, people wanted to know what he flew. None of us had any idea what he did so my dad would tell people he was incharge of cranking the landing gear up/down. When my brother found out, he was not amused so Dad gave him a promotion to head staircase sweeper.
As my dad (a 20-year Air Force officer with a DFC) once said: Any landing that you can walk away from was a successful landing. God bless the air crew, fire crews and ATC for doing such a professional job.
"A good landing is one from which you can walk away, a great landing is one where you can use the plane again."
My friends dad flew on B-17's he talked about Belly landings..watch 12O'Clock High movie they actually did a Belly Landing with a B-17.
My dad had a landing gear collapse on takeoff with a fully loaded A-26. He walked away from that one too.@@Brian-yt8fu
Agreed.@@eriesara6424
Yeah, that's what every pilot In real life and movies say.
2014 Retired DAL Management. Your video's are always 110% right on. I also thought it took WAY too long for emergency response. I was on Airline Emergency Response team and from what I recall, emergency fire vehicles were typically staggered along the active runway. The 1st Fire should have been at/behind the aircraft when its wheels were still rolling.
As a retired ARF firefighter, you are correct sir.
videos are
Former USAF ARFF and I disagree that the apparatus took too long to get there. They were obviously staged nearby, and why would they need to be on the runway? The aircraft landed and rolled out safely, and there was no apparent fire. I'm sure they were also observing the plane remotely with cameras and binoculars. Also, we don't hear the conversation here between the captain and the tower (it would be better if we had all of the actual ATC traffic, especially the ground freq, instead of just what the spotter was listening to). It's very possible that they were waiting on the pilot to decide if he was going to stop on the runway, or continue on to the ramp. It's also possible that OPS was holding them back from the runway. The fewer things on the runway, the faster they can re-open it. It was much more important for OPS to follow the aircraft down the runway to do a FOD check. So, without having more information, it's really silly to say ARFF took too long to get there. We don't know all the facts.
20:12 "I would love to shoot one of those, still a boy at heart" gotta be one of the most boy at heart things to say
I hear them saying the doors aren't supposed to be open, and I'm thinking, "manual gear extension, yes they are supposed to be open"...
Yay! Maryland One at 0:27 seconds. You don't see this one in the wild too often! I got to see it at a gate at BWI once. Impressive livery. One of the cool old school things about a B737 is the emergency release is a cable in the floor behind the pedestal. Yank on it and gravity takes over. In fact, the entire plane has manual reversion. Y2K compliant before we knew what Y2K was!
altitude is your friend when working through an issue or to prepare for the worst..
I love the know-it-all spectators.
The disappointment in the spotters voice when everyone survived
At 11:00 you mention “cranking the gear down”. As you discuss this is not typically something crews need to do nowadays. Back when I was a boy on the 707/720 we did “crank the gear” down during a manual extension - due to a Utility Hydraulic System failure or an abnormal gear indication. We had an extendable crank that we would insert into receptacles in the cockpit floor. The crank had to be turned in the correct direction - either clockwise or counter-clockwise - depending on which gear one was trying to extend. I remember the sense of pure joy when, at the end of the procedure, the three green gear lights illuminated. Love your channel and the way you explain things.
There was a manual crank system for the gear on the early 747's, too, but in the main equipment centre below the main deck cabin floor.
Oh man, Kelsey made his inner child do the talking; he wants to fire the canon! Great vid Kelsey. Love the humor and sarcasm a lot!
757 Rocket ship is a cool looking aircraft. The pilots did a fantastic job working the problem and landing it nice and soft.
If the video continued, this turned into an emergency evacuation via the door slides. Anti-skid issue caused the wheel/brake fire. RH MLG was changed due to the heat from the wheel/brake fire. Thanks for your insight....great video!
I was thinking hydraulic fluid may have leaked onto the brakes and smoked as soon as the brakes got hot?
@@DRV-mt5dd it already had the anti-skid system on MEL. Most blown tires, premature tire wear and wheel/brake fires are typically tied to anti-skid issues.
@@mightysprocketSo, a safety system caused a fire? How poetic.
@@timsmith2525 this is an example of the holes in the cheese lining up. The anti-skid being on MEL drives different pilot braking procedures, including runway length. However, couple that with uncertain landing issues after a “manual / free fall” gear extension, the crew ended up using more runway than would have been ideal, and needed to apply heavier braking which caused the fire.
@mightysprocket So do you have any guess what initially caused the fault of the right gear in the first place before they landed?
I've been flying over 40 years personally & I've been blessed not to have to deal with a issue as a Commercial Air Carrier Pilot or in any of my General Aviation Aircraft. I've done this in The Simulator, as All Airline Pilots have done. But in The Real World I haven't ever done this. However, my Dad was a former WWII U.S. Army Air Corps Combat Pilot & He flew as a General Aviation Pilot for The Rest Of His Life. I always went flying everywhere with my Dad. He found an Older Aero Commander that he really wanted to buy. That Sunday Morning I remember that we got to our Home Airport really early because we had to fly from the L.A. area to one of the neighboring States to look at The Commander & take it for a test flight. My Dad had owned a Commander before & had regretted selling it or trading it for a different airplane. I could tell that He was excited about the prospect of owning another one. We landed at this small, Uncontrolled Airport, I was maybe 12 years old, I don't remember all of the details, but The Commander was sitting in front of The Open Hangar Doors. As we Taxied in I remember that it was the largest airplane on that field. We met with the Owner who was waiting for us. I noticed that they had battery chargers hooked to both Engines. After my Dad & The Seller of The Piston and Prop Twin Engine Plane finished their initial talk, it was time to go flying. I remember that my Dad did the Preflight Inspection while I climbed in & planted myself firmly in the right seat. I was too young to remember the first famíly Aero Commander. But I thought it was so cool, on the inside it looked like a Small Airliner. (It would seat 8 or 10 Passengers.) As my Dad got on board & got into The Left Seat, He pulled out The Maintenance Logs, Air Worthiness Certificate & Other Paperwork that all Air Planes Must Carry On Board at all times. I was surprised when The Seller hopped On Board just before my Dad was ready to Start The Number Two Engine First. But He just wanted to go along for the ride. We Taxied Out on The Far Left Side of The Runway, because this Airport didn't even have Taxiways, but they did have a Unicom. I remember my Dad told me The Take-Off Speed, so I would be playing F/O. When we Started Our Take-Off Roll, I saw that The Airspeed/Ground Speed Indicator was Coming Up & I said "Airspeed Alive," I looked at The Oil Pressure Guages & said, "Oil Pressure is Good, All Indicators are in The Green." Then We were Approaching The Take-Off Speed & I Said "V-1," then "Rotate," Then I saw The Altimeter Begin to Move, I looked out the side window & I said "Positive Rate, V-2 & Gear." My Dad pointed to The Gear Lever meaning that I was being allowed to Retract The Landing Gear. We flew around for quite some time, I knew that my Dad was enjoying flying The Aircraft & I felt like I'd hit "The Big Time." But what we hadn't been told was that That Plane Hadn't Been Flown in quite some time. Everyone knew it at that Airport. If My Dad had known that, He would've never permitted me to go on that flight. But all of the Area Airport Bums were very interested in seeing us Land. Even The Airport Manager was outside with An Air Frequency Walkie Talkie & Binoculars. As We were on Our Final Approach, This Panicked Voice came over The Unicom Screaming "YOUR NOSE WHEEL ISN'T DOWN! YOUR NOSE GEAR IS NOT EXTENDED!" Well, of course, I would have aborted the landing & headed back up to Try To Work Through The Problem. But My Dad was Trained To Fly by The Military in 1942 & they didn't take time for all of that. My Dad continued his final & Touched Down on The Main Gear, then kept the nose high until we reached a point where The Nose wouldn't stay up any longer. Then it was "KAPLUNK," followed by The Sound Of Metal Scrapping On The Pavement of The Runway. At some point after we Touched Down my Dad had killed both engines. We'd Slid About 30 feet on Our Nose before coming to a complete stop. We exited the Plane & We wer,e just standing on the side of the Runway. The Funniest Thing was that The Airport had a Tiny Little Firetruck & All Of The Men Had Climbed On It & They Came Screaming Up With Their Lights & Sirens Blaring! I'm not sure why, it wasn't that there was any Traffic Between Us & Them & Those Lights & Siren Didn't Make Them Go Any Faster! But my Dad did a great job, even though He reverted back to His' Military Training which was basically "Don't Tie Up Air Traffic! Put It On The Ground, We'll Fix It Or Scrap It Later." I remember that there was some sort of debris that jammed The Gear & Prevented It From Extending. That was The Cause of The Nose Gear Not Extending. We were already aware that The Nose Gear Indicator Light had a "Short" in it, though all three lights were showing "Three Green," With The Nose Gear Light Flickering Off & On, The Seller & My Dad thought that was Normal Due To Previous Issues With That Light Malfunctioning. My Dad Didn't Buy That Airplane, Though It Was Repaired & Is Possibly Still Flying. My Dad Figured That If It Had That Many "Gremlins" In It, How Many More Were There? He soon found another Aero Commander to Add To Our Little Collection Of Airplanes. But that was in The Early To Mid 70's. I still own The Commander That He ended up Buying, along with The Cessna 310 that He Owned, The Citation III that My Dad & I Went Together & Bought, and A Couple Of G.A. Aircrafts that I've bought myself.
I was a passenger flying from Billings Montana down to Santa Barbara CA one night when the plane had a similar problem. I knew something was up as I watched Santa Barbara go by out the window. They couldn't get greens on the landing gear and weren't sure if they were locked in place. We diverted to the LA area because they had much longer runways and exactly like Kelsey said, they told us there would be emergency vehicles meeting us and not to be surprised. Also like Kelsey mentioned they followed us pretty close as we rolled all the way down the runway. There were some terrified people on board before the landing, crying etc. I tried to calm people down and assure them the pilots wanted to go home and see their families just as much as we all did etc. When we landed we rolled.. and rolled.. and rolled... finally stopping when we reached the fence at the end of the runway with emergency vehicles surrounding us. The passengers broke into massive applause when we stopped. As I left the flight attendants thanked me for being reassuring to the other passengers. I thought the whole thing was actually kind of exciting. Side note: If this ever happens to you, don't expect to get off the plane for a quite a while, they had to get stairs and buses out there etc. Then you have to deal with figuring out how to get back to where you thought you were going. It's not really over when the applause stops. 😉
My favorite gear handling video involved a light plane, pickup truck, and 5 sets of brass balls. Essentially, one of he mains was up. The plane flew low over the runway, the pickup drove under it, and the largest set of brass juevos reached up and pulled on the tire till the gear came down. The plane landed safely, and I'd imagine all of those dudes were friends for life after that.
I'm not sure, but you may have to be referring to fake video, I think it was on this channel too and explained why it was unreal I just remember it was a pickup truck, going under jet which had problem with nose gear and it landed with nose gear in the bed of pickup truck.
I’m a retired firefighter paramedic and I was in a Town next to Ft. Lauderdale international airport. I can’t tell you how many times we ran mutual aid into the airport as precautions. Thankfully in my career never have had a major airport emergency. It’s funny how similar personalities firefighters and pilots are though. Wheels down Fred 😂
A pilot who landed with his gear up was Douglas Bader. He was awarded "tin legs" but was recalled to the RAF at the outbreak of WWII. When the Germans shot him down over occupied France they asked via the Red Cross for another pair. Last I heard of him he was overtaking a line of trucks and smashed into an old RAF pal who was driving on the proper side of the road.
Two Mentour videos and a 74Gear? It's a good weekend.
Is it Christmas?
Hot brakes on even smaller acft are a serious thing. In the AF, we had wax sticks (crayons) to put against the brake assemblies to see if they were hot after landing. This was a fairly common occurrence if an A-10, F-16, etc was returning was a full load (fuel & munitions). If they were hot, we'd pin the munitions and wait for them to cool. The pilots stayed in the acft with it still running. Once cool, they'd taxi back to park and we'd replace the assemblies which then went to be rebuilt. I have seen red hot assemblies on F-4s when the pilots would overuse the brakes trying to make a taxing way instead of using the full runway to slow down.
a taxiway
I always have to watch your videos twice, first to watch the plane footage, second to watch Kelsey's face while he watches the plane footage😂😂 love your videos!
It's always quite a sight driving up the jersey turnpike seeing the planes on approach into newark turning on landing lights seeing them five or six deep on final
Tower, this is Ghost Rider requesting a flyby.
Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.
I repeat the pattern IS full.
@@RevolutionibusOrbiumCoelestium ::spills coffee:: "Son of a b.."
I recall some aviation youtuber mentioning that for most planes in the event of a manual landign gear extension (aka "gravity drop") the landing gear covers on the belly stay open, because the hydraulic system is not involved in it (for obvious reasons). This is likely the case here. Also if you look closely in the first part where the plane is flying over with just one gear extended, the gear cover is retracted on the left main gear, like it should be.
A plane I was in landed in Gatwick in England in 1990. I noticed it was taking a little long to start slowing down. When we did start slowing down, I looked out the window and saw we had several emergency vehicles racing beside us. The pilot didn't say a word until we were almost stooped. Then he came on and said we had a brake on fire but it's under control and nothing to worry about. I'll never forget how calm he sounded. Yes, the trucks met us as we stopped.
He was calm because he's trained to be. He also has confidence that the fire appliances will deal with the issue or tell him if it is getting worse.
Fire vehicles have fast response, but they were waiting for you if they were along side as you were slowing. I hate when people lie to those around them for convenience and it is "accepted". After the flight landed, that pilot could have just as easily said. "We saw a weird indication on the brakes and though it would be prudent to have trucks waiting to stop a problem before it started." This still tells me that the Captain and crew have my well being in mind. It also makes clear that they care enough not to lie to me about it!
As pilots, being calm is our job.
@@RowanHawkinsThe captain waited to inform everyone what was going on, because having the cabin panicking and decending into utter chaos makes it infinitely harder to solve the problem. They told the truth about what happened because they do care about your well being, and because being direct and open about it causes less of a disruption than being vague and unclear about it which leads to speculation and assumptions of a worst case scenario.
My daughter is a rappeller on a Forest Service helitack crew aka wildland firefighter. She also helps fly, manage, manifest, etc. the helicopter. After watching you, I now understand her terminology and am surprised at how similar flying helicopters & planes are.
Your daughter has an awesome job.....no doubt due to her supportive mom.!
@@ClearedAsFiled thank you!! I just wish it wasn't so dangerous. We were talking about how much smoke she breaths in, when she's on the fire, and she said, honestly, I breath in a lot more jet a fuel (hope I said that right) than smoke. My other daughter spent five years in the Marines. But if you looked at them, you would never guess.
You are a brave supportive parent. Just what that young woman needs.
My day is always better when I see there's a new 74 Gear video. Thank you, Kelsey, for taking the time out of your busy life to bring us videos such as this. We appreciate you immensely. Keep the blue side up and landing gear down (when they are supposed to be down).
Free falling the gear is a regular check for maintenance workers when the plane is on jacks. Hat's off to the crew & maintenance workers getting the plane down safely.
I was one of the spotters in the past, they really write up everything and record everything on video, and in the Netherlands crash they used some of the material to make a file. These guys are also very annoyed when you come for the first time on their grounds (they think) but after a few times and if you bring some snacks and drinks, they adopt you very fast :)
His name is Matt Cochran, he is a plane spotting FANATIC in Atlanta. He has over 600 videos and is a character when he's spotting on a regular day. lol, He can tell you what plane is coming in and what variant.
You are so calm when you talk about these things. Just so you know if I were ever on a plane, I’d ask my friend next to me to knock me out until it was all over.😂😂😂
Bro…….he’s sitting in a motel room….🤪
I mean, he wasn't even there for it, hes just talking about it. Besides as a pilot, we have three jobs. Job 1: Don't fall out of the sky Job 2: Don't slam into the ground like a meteor. Job 3: Remain perfectly calm even if we are failing at jobs 1 or 2.
I served as a firefighter in the USAF. I agree that the trucks were too slow. Yes, today they have a lot of technology but when I was serving (1982) our truck was very basic but would be there for safety. No water on the brakes. They have to cool down on their own. If you put water on the gear they usually blow out and the rim can travel long distances. Like you, the camera makes it difficult to analyse the scene better.
Yesss a new 74 Gear video is exactly what I needed on this sunny Sunday! As an aspiring air traffic controller I always learn so much from your videos, thanks so much for making them! ❤ Got my final interview to get into training school next week so wish me luck 😂
these always come out Sunday night here. They make the prospect of Monday morning just that little bit better
My husband is a pilot. He's ready to retire in Jan. I started watching Kelsey and Air Disasters about 6 months ago. (Couldn't before!) Anyway he watches with me and can always tell me what went wrong and what could have been different. Good luck in your new career!! They need you!❤
Of course someone named "de Havilland" would want to get into aviation.... runs in the family.
Awesomeness, good luck!
Whisky-Tango 99'er, continue on your current altitude for ATC school, heading 020, winds calm, cleared for landing on 2-9'er Left.
Hi Kelsey, did you know MD80 and DC-9 (in case of indication failure) have a periscope (can be rotate LH/RH) in the passenger compartment aisle below the carpet to check the MLG down and locked? And on MD80 you have a stick coming up in the center pedestal as indication of NLG down (in addiction to the green light on the main instrument panel) instead the DC-9 it has a cap to be removed on the floor at the foot of the FO, and through the hole he can see the red indication on the block down of the NLG. Both periscope and the "hole" has a mirror and a switch to turn on dedicated spot light to illuminate the red signs on the block down... Ciao ;)
If you look closely, I think that you can see the gears being extended again and retracted again during that so-called first flyby, so they are indeed trying to work it out. They learn that the right gear still won't come down while not getting in the way of other aircraft.I also thought that the right gear looked a little off somehow before they landed. Not sure what it was, but it seemed to me that its angle was slightly different than the angle of the left gear; could be something else in reality that created that visual illusion, such as a cable hanging out.
Weird thing Kelsey, my grandfather served in both , the first and Second World War as a pilot . His swan song was, ‘keep the blue side up’. I often wonder, how he , would have coped with all the information that you have to have dellt with, or deal with on each flight.? Takes a special breed. Keep the info “ah coming.” Loads of fun . Thank you.
should always be a manual to everything when all else fails...cranking my arms off for dear life to have a shot at surviving..is what it comes down to..
Just happy they landed safely
Brother! You made me laugh so hard on this one 😆 9 seater and cranking so hard and where sweating...and passengers didn't care....and then freezing cold outside...lol. I should tell you all my memories in the Air Force back in the late 1980's... 😂
Woah I've done something Kelsey hasn't 😮 in high school I interned at the international aiport in my city withe management and ops department. One day we went over to ARFF and I got to hop in a truck with one of the firefighters. I got to roll down the runway blasting the water cannon. That thing was so dang cool.
B757 - it has been years, and I have worked on many aircraft, but I believe there are Accumulator bottles that have a single use mounted in the wheel wells. So, yes, hydraulic failure. Inner belly gear doors drop, gear cycles, and they close, under hydraulics. Same for the brakes. They have their own accumulator bottles. Flaps can be electric. Aircraft Mechanics will typically check these bottles every flight. They are single use and can cause a brake fire or catch the tire on fire just from the heat of stopping. So the pilots step on it for all that they can as there will be little left if they lift up pressure on the pedal and press down again. I was ETOPS on B757, Commercial A&P Mechanic. Outstanding video brother. The visuals were amazing. Brings back fond memories.
I am never going to forget how I was pampered as a child by both the steward team and the pilots. I got to visit the pilot cabin, awerawed to say something, and the pilots actually greeted me! ❤
Same! That was a blast.
Me too, it was around 1965-66, I was flying to see my dad, unattended on Frontier Airlines. Back in those days unattended children were royalty. I got fawned over by the stewardess' (that's what they called them back then), got to meet the pilots in the cockpit, AND they gave me a pair of wings that they pinned to my shirt. Good times, good times.
@@nix4644 Yup, same thing. Nine years old in 1964 on a flight from NYC to Paris. Cockpit tour, including sitting in the pilot's seat, and plastic pilot wings pinned on by a nice stewardess. That was when kids were dressed in a suit to fly, and had to be on their best behavior. Real food too! What a horror show it is to fly these days, unless maybe you go 1st class, or business class!
This "spotter" is Matt Cochran and he also considers his channel as comedy. He has a lot of fun giving new names to everything (regional aircraft are Reginalds, Spirit Airlines are The Evil Spirits etc,). But be assured his knowledge of aircraft types is vast and so is his enthusiasm.
You left out another adjective ... annoying
Another great video with easy to understand commentary. Always enjoy the dryness of your sense of humor. Thanks
I'm an old fella and just feel like saying you are a wonderful man. That's about it. Sometimes you need telling.
In 2005, there was a jetblue flight that had to land with it's front gear facing sideways.
On the 757, the alternate gear extension switch operates a small hydraulic pump, a "powerpack" Boeing calls it, which provides pressure to uplock release actuators that are separate from the normal release actuators. Those actuators unlock all the gear doors and open the uplock hooks that normally hold the gear up. When extending alternately, the door and gear hydraulics are ported to the return lines so they can free-fall. The nose gear needs some help from the air pressure to lock into place, which is why the Gimli Glider (767) had its nose gear collapse after landing since it didn’t have enough forward speed to help it into its down and locked position. When down, big springs on the downlock struts keep them in the overcentered down and locked position. And yes, the doors stay open.
Hey Kelsey, I got to ride in an Oshkosh fire Truck on a Canadian Forces Air Base many years ago. I got to fire the water canon on it. It had a joystick to aim and fire. 650 HP engine. Zero to 60 KPH in 13 seconds . Very cool. Love your videos. Just flew Frontier Air from Atlanta to Las Vegas last week. Regards from Canada.
I know a pilot that flies a Cessna 310, nose gear broke when extending. Guessing someone hopped the chocks a few too many times prior. He landed safely and walked away uninjured but it did cause considerable damage to the nose and the engines. Pro piloting skills, he kept the nose up as long as it would let him
You should totally ask around various organisations to see if you can go film with them. You doing a series where you let the fire crews explain how their jobs work; or the ATC guys explain their perspective on atc vs pilot situations would be cool.
Captain Joe does that kind of stuff, too. I don't know if he's done a firefighting video, though. I'd have to check.
Matt Cochran is hilarious - I’ve been following him for years.. so much fun watching his videos
Kelsey you should do an episode on the wildest things maintenance staff have heard of other pilots doing
Kelsey, you don't have to tell us, that you are still a boy at heart. We know and we love you for this.
Thank you very much for the video 74 Gear
There is a GA pilot I watch that happened to be filming when his gear did not go down all the way, and the tower had him fly by to confirm the gear was not down. Luckily, he was able to get his manual out and found that his Bonanza had a crank under the seat to manually lower the stuck gear.
He found that out _after_ getting the manual out? One would think that he should already _know_ that. The manual should be to confirm that he doesn't forget any steps, but one would hope that he had already familiarized himself with those steps at some point in the past. I'll use an analogy of putting tire chains on a car before driving a frozen road in the winter: One should practice putting them on before ever needing them, and then, on the day they are needed, review the instructions to ensure they are fresh.
@@TheRealScooterGuyAlthough you are correct in that as a pilot we should know our aircraft better than the back of our own hand, some things are simply not known about. As an example: There are likely no markings, indicators or labels in the Bonanza to let you know that the manual gear crank even exists, when you buy the Bonanza most likely nobody will show it to you or even tell you about it, its positioned in a spot where you're unlikely to discover or find it while doing maintenance of the aircraft, and it is probably only mentioned once in the entire manual. That is why we always keep the manual in the aircraft.
@@jakehildebrand1824 -- There is a difference between a rental aircraft and one that is owned, of course, but again, if I _owned_ a particular aircraft, I would definitely go through all of the emergency procedures before needing them. I'd make sure I understood each process and knew how to complete each step. I don't want to be calling up a flight instructor -- from the air with an alarm beeping -- asking what some odd acronym means.
5:16 Regarding the gear doors remaining open...in the QRH you show, the final step says to _not_ do the GEAR DOORS checklist, so it sounds like it's not uncommon during a manual gear drop to leave the doors open after. Not sure if that example is for the same aircraft type, but at least it shows that it's not unheard of.
The nicknames are one of my favorite things about these videos. "Wheels up Fred" is hilarious 😂
Kelsey, that's a great personal anecdote and the highlight of the video. Glad you were able to bring it up like this! ✈
Fun fact: while there are backup systems to lower the gear, there is no backup for rising it (usually, I wouldn't be surprised if there were exceptions, especially in military). Why? If your gear doesn't go down, you are in deep trouble, but if it doesn't go up, you just have to land back where you took off. In most cases, no point in trying to fix that issue in air. At least that what they taught me in aviation engineering.
That makes sense, since planes have to be engineered to function with the least amount of equipment possible to keep them as light as possible. Adding an extra mechanism that is not essential to flying/landing a plane would be a waste of money and and create inefficiency.
You'll probably never see this, but thank you for your videos! I know they're for entertainment and informational purposes, but they helped my husband get a job at Southwest last year. You rock!
How's that?
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg Oh just the amount of knowledge gained from all of his videos, it helped in his interview. Not a pilot or anything, but a job at Headquarters :)
Nervous? -Yes First time? -No, I've been nervous lots of times.
That actually sounds like Matt Cochran, he's a pretty funny plane spotting KZheadr. It's possible. Nice job Kelsey, as always. ☮️✈️
I was wondering if somebody was going to recognize him.....
@@502Aviation 🤘✈️
OMG this guy sounds so excited at the possibility of an incident , and when things appear to go well he subsides....
Kelsey you’ve inspired me to start my journey to becoming a pilot. I have a very long way to go (I just did my discovery flight last week and absolutely loved every second of it), and I have absolutely no idea how I’d pay for flight school. But it’s my dream now and I hope someday I can make it a reality.
Great job again Kelsey! Thanks for the info
this is one of the channels i show my mom whos really terrified of flying and it helps her every time :3 thank you for making these videos as enjoyable and educational as they are!
Ex Navy Fire Fighter here, so I guess you could say we had AT Seaman. LOL Thanks Kelsey, another great vid. Cheers mate. 🙂
Except the ATs are airmen. :P
Just yesterday I was on a flight from Paris, France to Dallas, Texas and they had a camera below the plane and a camera above the tail that passengers could watch on their seatback screen. As we were landing I was watching the camera below the plane and couldn't help but think "how unfortunate would it be if the landing gear didn't go down and everyone could see. That would cause a real fright!". Thankfully we had a smooth landing and got to enjoy the blistering heat as we walked out of the airport lol
I’m guessing they would turn off the feed.
Well you're almost describing exactly what happened to Jet Blue passengers back in the day. AT the time Jet Blue had live satellite TV on board so the passengers go to watch their own emergency landing on CNN - live - due to a messed-up nose gear. The closest I personally came to this type of deal was departing from Orlando (MCO) on a delta flight where you could tune your headset to the tower. It was kind of fun till all of a sudden, the tower stopped broadcasting. All the planes were asking for status updates and got nada. Then I heard the pilot of our plane (flight number) ask if anyone was "in front" of us and he took off without clearance as there was another plane coming up right behind us to land on the runway we were holding on. I just calmy took out my earbuds and decided to never listened to "channel 9" on delta ever again. As were it not for the earbuds it would have seemed like a perfectly normal take-off. LOL
Love your analysis of these videos.
“I’m a boy at heart.” Never have truer words been uttered. 😂
I was a fueler in the USAF in the 70's. I was once fueling a B52, and the off-board power cart wouldn't start. The ground crew chief was upset, probably because it was Friday evening, and he wanted to get off duty. So he grabbed a tug and raced back to the motor pool to get another power cart. The power cart was basically it's own small jet engine to power the pumps on the B52. I had already connected the fuel hose to the aircraft and all my grounding cables. So I'm there with a truck with a 5000 gallon load of JP4, tied to the plane. When he came back, going WAY too fast, he turned in front of the B52 too sharp, and the power cart started flipping over, doing endos. At that moment, a base firetruck happened to be going by. They saw the cart flipping all over the place, spewing jet fuel everywhere. I saw the canon starting to aim, said some very bad words, and ran to disconnect. I was literally jumping into the truck after pulling in my hose and leaving the grounding cables disconnected but dragging, when the fire truck opened up. I got thoroughly soaked with the foam, and because I was trying to get in the truck, the door was open. So I got soaked and so did the cab of my truck. I wasn't allowed to shower and change my uniform until I cleaned the cab. Not a great day for anyone involved!
If this was a comedy sketch nobody would believe it :-)!
I've recently seen televised messages that the foam was toxic and there is some type of medical and legal issue going on. You might want to look into that.
I live 15 mins from the Fed ex hub and Memphis int'l airport and there's a place I can plane spot and record imma start doing that love your videos man great hard work especially how busy your life already is as a pilot that is for all u do
Kelsey - great video, I will say that YES those master stream cannons are a BLAST to play with!!!
Thanks Kelsey 😊 Your videos are great ❤
Always a good day when you get to see Kelsey and a new video. 😍 best wishes to all.
Good morning Kelsey! Thanks for covering this flight, I remember seeing a lot of videos on instagram. Shout out to all us plane spotters! ❤
Especially the ones who don't speak in their videos
@@donaldsalkovick396 if I’m filming, I’m not talking. No one needs to hear my chatter 💯
@@donaldsalkovick396 Spotters have a right to say anything they want on their own videos. Kelsey didn't have to use the audio, or if he had the right equipment, he could have selectively eliminated the spotter's voice. But he purposely decided to keep it in the video, to highlight some of the spotter's erroneous assumptions.
@@charlesmartin1121 yeah and I have a right to not watch when they do all his chatter was was annoying and distracting. And you don't speak for Kelsey btw if he has something to say he will
@@donaldsalkovick396 Who said I speak for Kelsey? I was just stating the obvious.
With Kelsey talking about cranking the gear down, the only thing i thought of was the scene in "Airplane" when a guy was checking the oil with dipstick at the nose of airplane:D
At least he didn't shout "hey I got that on video!" and spoil it like a lot of people do.
the spotter is a hoot. this is his Hobby and has over 600 videos. He is so over the top most of the time, you can tell he loves spotting. his name is Matt Cochran if you watch a few of his videos you will see what I mean.
Airport operations do a ton of work on the ground when an incoming aircraft has an alert. Airport operations assumes command of these types on incidents, not fire, not police, not the airlines, not the FAA. This involves everything from coordinating ARFF (fire on scene), coordinating with on site and off site rescue units to get them onto the airfield and coordinate their departure from the airfield. Airport/Airfield regulations require airport employees have a SIDA badge, or be escorted by someone who does. Airport operations handles these escorts of first responders from offsite fire stations. This also includes contacting the airline’s ground crew to ready a tug/towbar to remove this plane from the runway if it can't taxi under its own power. Airport operations is also in charge of shutting down/opening parts of an airfield, to include the runways and taxiways. This authority lies solely within the purview of Airport operations. Airport operations then has to do a runway inspection to be sure that fluids or debris (FOD) doesn’t remain on the runway before it can be reopened and given back to the tower to resume normal operations. Fire/Pilots/Tower use what's called a DEF (discreet emergency frequency) so fire can speak directly with the pilots so they can determine the best course of action (foam, water, fans, or evacuation.) Source: I'm in the business.
Thanks for sharing this. It's always cool to get a look at the behind the scenes work that makes the events people can see run.
So airport ops commands the responses to emergencies?
Every airport has it's own procedures on how to handle an emergency. For instance, our Battalion Chief will assume IC and we utilize many departments outside of just Ops, to escort mutual aide. Source: I too am in the business 😃 I like your username 👍
@@gwgaskin Thanks! Do you work at a Cat X airport?
@@justaguy427 it’s the one in this video 😉
I think the excitement that plane watchers get when something interesting *finally* happens is quite cute. Also appreciate a pilot actually thanking a plane watcher for doing what they do (and thus providing content) instead of making fun of them or getting annoyed.
I agree. But I thought Kelsey could have been a bit kinder to a non-pilot/controllers misperceptions.
His name is Matt Cochran, a plane spotter in Atlanta most weeks. He has over 600 videos and is a plane FANATIC. I think his commentary is funny in his regular videos. He's like a kid in a candy store.
Private pilot here.. That was a great landing. Nobody injured, and the plane will fly again after a little maintenance. Any time I've been on a checkride, BFR or IPC, when going through checks on final I'll call out Gear, down and welded, and prop fixed. Usually gets a laugh. I've never had anything quite like that happen in flight. Had a seat belt end slapping outside. No big deal. Flap circuit breaker went out. Annoying, but thats what forward slips are for. Glide slope receiver quit on final, so i flew the localizer approach. A saturated carburetor float that caused a rough engine on pitch changes. That one worried me enough to call approach and let them know what was going on, but I landed safely.
In Vegas, we used to be able to park right in front of the runway at Nellis. It felt like you could throw a rock in the air and hit an F-111. I also have pictures of the signs that say don't take pictures at Area 51 and got my dad detained for 9 hours.... He thought it was pretty cool but was legitimately freaked.
Just a note, any specific frequency is a discrete frequency. The well known 121.5 MHz emergency frequency is separate from 121.3 and 121.7 MHz making it discrete. The other use of the word discrete to mean secret is not what is being used for the aircraft to ground operations, just a separate frequency with a name that includes discrete frequency.
I'm guessing the spotter was using a phone app to listen to ATC instead of a scanner. With a scanner, it would be trivial or automatic to switch over.
Lots of background noise so it was hard to hear what was being said on the ATC frequency.
If you like to listen to his regular plane spotting videos, he has over 600 videos here on KZhead. His name is Matt Cochran.
@@BeagleBellow May do that Thanks for the suggestion.
as a boomer in a KC-135 we did training on cranking down the flaps and the gear.
As a volunteer firefighter I can say using the water Canon on a fire truck is fun during drills