Mastering React Context: Do you NEED a state manager?

2024 ж. 2 Мам.
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Context in React is a super valuable tool, but can it replace a state manager? Let's find out!
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0:00 Introduction
0:32 Project Setup
1:14 Prop Drilling
5:03 Context Using Prop Drilling
9:21 Multiple Contexts
10:38 Context Using useReducer
13:45 When To NOT Use Context
15:00 Context Versus State Managers
17:18 State Management With Zustand
22:13 Adding A Facade Layer
24:19 Fine-Grained Updates
25:38 Replacing Zustand With Context
29:37 When Context Updates Components
30:10 Context Using use-context-selector
32:40 Referential Identity Matters
35:03 Recommendations

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  • For my money, when it comes to getting these concepts across in an accessible way that goes beyond the superficial while avoiding being mired down, you are absolutely unbeatable. It's a fine line but you walk it expertly!

    @thatboyneedstherapy@thatboyneedstherapy2 жыл бұрын
  • I don't understand why youtube didn't recommend your channel to me earlier. This video is not only about mastering React context but also the way you refactor/repurpose the components for the use of context and other state managers. Thanks so much because I learn a lot from it.

    @tiennsloit@tiennsloit Жыл бұрын
  • Love how you Made the comparison between Context and Zustand. I always use Context and didn’t see why I should consider other state management tools. Thank you Jack

    @bythealphabet@bythealphabet2 жыл бұрын
  • Never really understood what context and Redux do, and you explain it so well with clear examples. Thank you!

    @viyicciyiv@viyicciyiv4 ай бұрын
  • adding this facade layer is genious

    @marcelwopperer9776@marcelwopperer97762 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing content, I have been following the channel for a while now. As a Junior dev I can say that this channel motivates me to dive deeper into concepts and try them out on my own in a series of little projects. Keep up the good work and high quality content, Jack!

    @danbacila5257@danbacila5257 Жыл бұрын
  • Incredibly clear and helpful demo. Please keep doing what you're doing. Your channel is by far the best I've found at showing both "the how" and "the why" of very specific and practical React + TypeScript in a very accessible way.

    @lucasishuman@lucasishuman2 жыл бұрын
  • Insanely good video. Perfect level of detail and nice comparison between the different options. I learned a lot from this.

    @Kahitar1@Kahitar1 Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing video Jack, I really enjoy watching the way you write and talk about code. Your channel is absolutely phenomenal.

    @tabliqatchi6696@tabliqatchi6696 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for this episode. In my personal ranking this is the best Context explanation I've ever seen

    @fadehelix@fadehelix2 жыл бұрын
  • These series of mastering are amazing, Thank you very much man, I have learned lots of things from you and I owe you a lot :)

    @mostafasaffari3878@mostafasaffari38782 жыл бұрын
  • It's really neat how you go building the example structure till you get on the topic of the video instead of already showing everything done and and explaining. I really liked that :D

    @AmodeusR@AmodeusR2 жыл бұрын
  • Terrific video, and very topical for my team at the moment as it would happen. Thank you as always ☘

    @noccer@noccer2 жыл бұрын
  • WOW! I mean really WOW... You are such a GREAT teacher. Teaching with examples and passing down all that precious knowledge with such an ease. Brilliant. I'm a fan. First video I watch on your channel and I'm subbed forever. I just started learning React 2 months ago and this helps a looootttttt. Thank you sooooo much man. I'll keep coming back for more knowledge as I need to get a job very soon, hopefully.

    @siriusplayz5871@siriusplayz5871 Жыл бұрын
  • This is a really really awesome video. Way Way better than all those tutorial style videos which only is a regurgitation of documentation. This actually deepens my understanding and give me ability to judge new state management tools for myself

    @pendyaaa@pendyaaa2 жыл бұрын
  • I think this video changed my life. Well, my frontend architecture but same thing right now.

    @orthostice@orthostice Жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic comprehensive overview! Love your videos Jack, been following you for a long time now.

    @ogreeni@ogreeni Жыл бұрын
  • Watched 2 of your videos. great content, very informative and very well edited. Thanks a lot for the effort

    @shike769@shike7692 жыл бұрын
  • The comparison is really good, especially with the profiler. Didn't know that context will make those many changes to the tree. Thank you Jack for the awesome video!

    @prathameshmali3888@prathameshmali38882 жыл бұрын
  • Exactly what I needed, still getting familiar with React and Next JS. Thanks!

    @stevebob240@stevebob240 Жыл бұрын
  • Wow. Fantastic tutorial. Your teaching is very clear. Super helpful. Thanks!

    @jacobgoldenstreet6246@jacobgoldenstreet6246 Жыл бұрын
  • This is a high quality video with great content, something really refreshing on KZhead! Thank you very much 🙏

    @braingamedotcom@braingamedotcom Жыл бұрын
  • There is a ton to digest here. Will be watching this many times. Thanks Jack!

    @tonyg_nerd@tonyg_nerd11 ай бұрын
  • Another great video….it’s amazing how many little things I learn mixed in with the major topic stuff. Thank you! Also, you are a great salesman for Copilot…the more I watch you write code the more I want it!

    @marksalsbery9826@marksalsbery9826 Жыл бұрын
  • This is really really GREAT content Jack, thank you!

    @teerapatprommarak2070@teerapatprommarak20702 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you, Jack, You have the best Front-end channel on YT. Keep it up.

    @AbdelhameedG@AbdelhameedG2 жыл бұрын
  • Great content as always. Thank you Jack!

    @stefan9599@stefan95992 жыл бұрын
  • So much great things covered in this video. Also a shout-out for passing the set state as a prop and using the callback to get the state value. I never thought of that before!

    @olyvar@olyvar6 ай бұрын
  • Great content and easy to understand. Thank you so much

    @haquocviet9253@haquocviet92532 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks! This was really helpful, even though I probably need to rewatch and read the docs a couple of times still

    @tonystark4416@tonystark4416 Жыл бұрын
  • Wowww 👏 this is the most thorough explanation on state management I've come across on yt. Definitely sub to this channel. Thanks!

    @Kelz_369@Kelz_369 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so much for this great tutorial!

    @spirostsakoulis797@spirostsakoulis797 Жыл бұрын
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    @yassinebi337@yassinebi3372 жыл бұрын
  • Bruh this channel is a blessing

    @krazymeanie@krazymeanie2 жыл бұрын
  • Mastering with the MASTER 🔥Every video is great, sometimes too much 😄, I mean I have seen the video even twice because you reach a high level, but with you Jack, I can improve my skills. Thanks ✌🏻

    @universecode1101@universecode11012 жыл бұрын
  • I am pretty impressed with how easy and clearly he manages to explain these concepts... Zustand sounds pretty interesting, I am definitely gonna try it.

    @psychobuddha5379@psychobuddha5379 Жыл бұрын
  • Amazing video Jack, thanks for the effort

    @HeinekenLasse@HeinekenLasse Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for the wonderful video, Jack! I work in this industry for 5 years and yet I found all of your videos amazing and incredibly informative! All your videos are precious gems :) Only one thing I found a little bit hard to follow is the pace you go through your code in the editor. Personally, for me is a little bit hard to follow with that speed. May be for others is okay :) Thank you once again for the cool stuff you're showing to our fellow programmers :)

    @petarkolev6928@petarkolev6928 Жыл бұрын
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    @mistersir3185@mistersir3185 Жыл бұрын
  • Best in depth explanation and for free woow you are amazing .. Thank you

    @Peter911@Peter9112 жыл бұрын
  • easy peasy lemon squeezy, thats the master said. Another very informative contents, so excited to watch your videos 🔥🔥🔥

    @okiirawan9578@okiirawan95782 жыл бұрын
  • Thank You! Briliant as always.

    @1Malak16@1Malak162 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so much for this video. Really useful.

    @javierjrueda1722@javierjrueda17222 жыл бұрын
  • VERY GOOD explanation, thank you!

    @farzadmf@farzadmf2 жыл бұрын
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    @lancerdonnie@lancerdonnie2 жыл бұрын
  • I'm new to your channel, loving your videos great content and thank you for teaching with great easy way 😀

    @parassharma7041@parassharma7041 Жыл бұрын
  • In the dark and dangerous world of React over complexity you are beacon of understanding and hope

    @rdubb77@rdubb779 ай бұрын
  • Love this channel!!!!!!!!!!! My go-to for React/JS stuff cause it covers more than just the basics which is what is needed in the real world env. Thx for the vids Jack!

    @igotbit9454@igotbit94542 жыл бұрын
    • PS. these days i'm using Apollo Cache/Reactive variables to pass state around instead of React Context but React context is great too.

      @igotbit9454@igotbit94542 жыл бұрын
  • An awesome resource for understanding state management in React!

    @tarek_maza@tarek_maza Жыл бұрын
  • I just start career in React js and found the great video that is helpful for me

    @JamesBond-mc7kl@JamesBond-mc7kl Жыл бұрын
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    @olabiranjoshua2860@olabiranjoshua28602 жыл бұрын
  • Hey Jack I have been watching video after video of yours. I am still in my deep dive of React and MFE's so would be curious if you had a video on managing State / Context via Module Federation, specifically around JWTs and how to control flow in MFEs for valid / invalid sessions. I'll keep looking through your library but this video along with every video you make is so informative. Thanks for publishing such amazing content!!

    @garywaddell6309@garywaddell6309 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Jack, very helpful!

    @ninabohm1535@ninabohm1535Ай бұрын
  • Thank you very much, sir. Great content.

    @drakephillips7613@drakephillips76132 жыл бұрын
  • Even some of the paid content out there is not as impressive as your content sir. Thank you so much.

    @sumitwadhwa8823@sumitwadhwa8823 Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video thank you so much!

    @chrisprenn@chrisprenn2 жыл бұрын
  • You did it again. I'm a developer for decades now and to be honest, I'm getting very annoyed by all those wanna be's out there. I'm trying to level up my knowledge about react (although I hate it) and every ninja is telling you to use context for global state. My guts feeling told me that is not a good idea. I don't want to rerender everything to update some fields. I even think that prop drilling is better. I follow your channel for a long time now and I'm glad you gave me the answers I was looking for. In a decent and professional way with proper knowledge and terminology. Thank you!

    @Tarabass@Tarabass Жыл бұрын
  • LOVING THIS MASTR SERIES 🖤

    @prabhatsachdeva7747@prabhatsachdeva77472 жыл бұрын
  • I always asked why people use redux for everything, while they could achieve the same with context or simpler state management libs. This video is proof of it. Unfortunately using context takes a lot of care to avoid re-renders, but zustand demonstrate it can look simple and do the job.

    @bielgaucho_real@bielgaucho_real Жыл бұрын
    • Just remember to make sure you use selectors with your zustand hook. :)

      @jherr@jherr Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks so much for create and share

    @juanpasten6077@juanpasten607710 ай бұрын
  • Really good content! Thank you.

    @hristoenev6733@hristoenev67332 жыл бұрын
  • Great stuff as always

    @karnellschultz6446@karnellschultz64462 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing 🔥🔥🔥 thanks, as always

    @zoaybk@zoaybk2 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you so mush Jack!

    @sergeitinc@sergeitinc2 жыл бұрын
  • thanks for the ecommerce example, adding it to the project section in my resume. A full fledged ecommerce app with login logout and add to cart functionality 😎

    @sarthak1317@sarthak13172 ай бұрын
  • Really nice video! Thank you 🤯

    @armandsalle8447@armandsalle84472 жыл бұрын
  • Finally I got the answer of this famous question, what is difference between redux and context. Your channel was always the best. I guess every body can find their question's answer in your channel. good to have you jack🤩

    @hamedmatari2577@hamedmatari2577 Жыл бұрын
  • The University of React State is back in session! Thanks Jack. I will want to get Mr. Kato's book.

    @eleah2665@eleah26652 жыл бұрын
  • Great video! Very educational

    @trenthm@trenthm Жыл бұрын
  • Great! Thanks!

    @maksym7279@maksym7279 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video, thanks.

    @ounicohenrique@ounicohenrique2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video, Zustand looks very promising

    @mateuszkulesza8528@mateuszkulesza8528 Жыл бұрын
  • You just dont stop at a superficial layer. Thanks a ton!!!!

    @sumanth3036@sumanth3036 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you Jack

    @user-kt5jw2cd7e@user-kt5jw2cd7e2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks!

    @kashnigahbaruda@kashnigahbaruda2 жыл бұрын
  • I used to use Redux (Redux toolkit to be precise) and it's still used for one of my active projects but in my latest project where I created my own CMS from scratch I used purely React Context for local state management and it was a very good experience. It's not like I dislike Redux toolkit (which is a pretty big upgrade on regular Redux imo when it comes to dev experience), but it was really nice to not have to put in a ton of dev time for the project on just state management.

    @apresthus87@apresthus872 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing!!!

    @GusGabriel@GusGabriel2 жыл бұрын
  • Happy Valentines Day... also great content as always, thank you

    @wisdomcube7789@wisdomcube77892 жыл бұрын
  • Jack, you are so amazing. I would be so happy if you can create full stack web development course. I am sure many people (including me) are willing to pay for your course.

    @heangly7449@heangly7449 Жыл бұрын
  • My nextjs mentor, thx man

    @doriandoussain1528@doriandoussain1528 Жыл бұрын
  • What's funny to me is that I see this video after seeing the newer "Do you NEED context?" videos :D

    @draikentz@draikentz Жыл бұрын
  • Your office environment is amazing.

    @harvenius@harvenius2 жыл бұрын
  • Let me just say what no one else notices… your video lighting and green screen setup is superb! 🙌 As a video guy I know this takes a bit of a setup/tweaking to get such a clean key without green spill around you.

    @BensTechLab@BensTechLab2 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks. I've been working on it and improving it over time. I think the most recent videos have been pretty solid.

      @jherr@jherr2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the deep but not too deep dive in the various state managers; will help my on my next project! Also thanks for the chapters. :)

    @tombyrer1808@tombyrer18082 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Jack, thanks for the great video, I've learned a ton. I have never heard of Zustand before and it seems very interesting for my future projects. Would you use it instead of redux?

    @erindhoxha8607@erindhoxha8607 Жыл бұрын
  • Great content sir! Do you have a video comparing Zustand and Redux Toolkit?

    @thefonsotube@thefonsotube9 ай бұрын
  • Amazing

    @neelabhdutta6691@neelabhdutta66912 жыл бұрын
  • great video!

    @tahamanna3600@tahamanna36003 ай бұрын
  • Nice!

    @alexshepel9387@alexshepel9387Ай бұрын
  • Thank you for the video! Where I can get same syntax highlighting?

    @ivuga1800@ivuga1800 Жыл бұрын
  • one reason I favour the state managers over the context api is that you can access your state even outside your react components and sometimes thats a requirement. not sure if you can do something like. import contextApi from 'mycontextapi'; contextApi.value ... etc.

    @user-fx9pp2qi3q@user-fx9pp2qi3q3 ай бұрын
    • You are correct. Making the data in the context available externally would be something you would have to implement. But there is `useSyncExternalStore` that you might want to look into. It's designed specifically to connect React components to external state managers. So if something off the shelf doesn't fit your needs there is that.

      @jherr@jherr3 ай бұрын
  • amazing content

    @elwoseopenstepcrew1134@elwoseopenstepcrew1134 Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant

    @naturegoggle@naturegoggle Жыл бұрын
  • Hey Jack, great explanation as always! Just curious to know that when you used use-context-selector, why did the wrapper re-render?

    @vijitail1979@vijitail1979 Жыл бұрын
  • Always amazing content that’s prepared so well. Curious, what tools you use to make your videos? Would love to dem to my team in the same format

    @jakemetz1742@jakemetz1742 Жыл бұрын
    • I use ScreenFlow to capture the screen. If I drew on the screen then I was using ScreenBrush and a commodity Gaomon drawing tablet. And then for post production I use the Adobe Suite. Honestly through, in most cases you could get by the just using ScreeFlow and a decent microphone.

      @jherr@jherr Жыл бұрын
  • amazing

    @abhishekchandel4244@abhishekchandel42442 жыл бұрын
  • Very neat

    @abdelhameedhamdy@abdelhameedhamdy2 жыл бұрын
  • I have kind of learned HTML a thousand times over the years and skipped it because JS and CSS where so cool but HTML is so basic it is thought only to beginners I think you are the perfect person to teach us (i.e. We already know * "Hypertext" refers to links that connect web pages to one another, either within a single website or between websites*) you must do an HTML tutorial for people who knows the basics and give us the advanced tools to master HTML in the context of React and with the minimal CSS or styling possible for it to be interesting but focusing only on HTML (in the context of React probably)… 😅😅😅😅 I would love to get my HTML certification 😉😌😜

    @Luxcium@Luxcium Жыл бұрын
  • I love your channel

    @Mostafaabobakr7@Mostafaabobakr72 жыл бұрын
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