Tesla Cybertruck 845-HP "Cyberbeast" Motors!

2024 ж. 18 Сәу.
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Sandy and Paul take a look at the motors from the Tesla Cybertruck tri-motor "Cyberbeast."
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  • 20:57 "That's not really a guess, that's just an engineering assumption." 😂

    @LeanSpeck@LeanSpeck25 күн бұрын
    • That's a great weasel word, I'll have to use that someday.

      @andrewt9204@andrewt920425 күн бұрын
    • So, an educated guess?

      @revengefrommars@revengefrommars25 күн бұрын
    • The term Sandy was grasping for is "Preliminary hypothesis".

      @genephipps6421@genephipps642125 күн бұрын
    • @@revengefrommars its still a guess because they literaly have no idea lol...

      @alanmay7929@alanmay792925 күн бұрын
    • we call them SWAG's ("Scientific Wild Ass Guess")

      @UnlikelyToRemember@UnlikelyToRemember25 күн бұрын
  • It's good to hear Ben's voice in your video. I thought he was a good presenter and a real value to Munro Live.

    @kjer6071@kjer607125 күн бұрын
    • We agree!

      @MunroLive@MunroLive25 күн бұрын
    • I like all the episodes, but a bit more in which Ben is presenting, good job, Ben 👍🏼🫡

      @ntulsian@ntulsian25 күн бұрын
    • ​@@ntulsianYes!

      @Hugo-py2ce@Hugo-py2ce25 күн бұрын
    • @@MunroLive this outdated technology requires oil changes and liquid cooling just like combustion engines and its not 845 hp its 3 motors slapped together to equal 845 hp there are chevy small bocks pushing 900 hp naturally aspirated lol just ''one engine alone'' lol you call this superior tech? get real kids.

      @billybobbob3003@billybobbob300325 күн бұрын
    • @@MunroLive look up louisville family celebrates 1 million miles it's a 2007 honda crv 3rd generation crv with honda k24/2.4 liter 4 cylinder with over 1 million miles lol so munros full of crap in this video.

      @billybobbob3003@billybobbob300324 күн бұрын
  • On the monoblock vs segmented magnets, I would recommend using magnaview film to see if the magnet is segmented inside of the external plating. The other thing to check is the electrical conductivity of the magnet to see if they added anything to the magnet that would reduce the electrical conductivity before sintering it. Both methods could be used to reduce eddy currents.

    @patrickmorse7549@patrickmorse754924 күн бұрын
    • nah tesla wants to cost cut no matter what. Only the high margins matter now

      @NyashaM@NyashaM24 күн бұрын
    • @@NyashaMPatrick is referring to the testing methods to inspect the motor, nothing to do with Tesla making savings.

      @streddaz@streddaz24 күн бұрын
    • As I understand it, rare-earth magnets use sintered material (not poured into a mold in a liquid state). So perhaps a nonconductive binder (instead of sintering) is possible, in which case there would be no eddy losses on any axis. (The counterpoint is that such a structure would not benefit from being plated...so this may not be the case.)

      @satoshimanabe2493@satoshimanabe249319 күн бұрын
    • @@satoshimanabe2493 the plating is typically alternating layers of nickel an copper and while I agree that eddy currents may be generated in the plating it is very difficult to build up eddy currents into very thin conductive sheets. I have spent a lot of time using induction power to evaporate metal in a vacuum chamber and bulk blocks are much easier to get thermal power into than thin conductive sheets. This is also why laminations are used. Lastly the plating would still be essential as Neodynimum based magnets are highly succeptialbe to moisture based corrosion.

      @patrickmorse7549@patrickmorse754919 күн бұрын
    • @@patrickmorse7549 Thanks for the explanation about plating, very helpful. What I meant by non-sintered, seems it's actually called bonded magnets (I'm sure you're familiar). I was trying to say that if the bonding fully coats each particle so they are electrically isolated, would there be any need for additional segmentation?

      @satoshimanabe2493@satoshimanabe249318 күн бұрын
  • I just love these Monro cybertruck reveal videos. I'm embarrassed to say they remind me of an old time burlesque show. Where each week the Cybertruck takes off a little bit more. Thank you for not playing bump and grind music.

    @jeremytaylor3532@jeremytaylor353224 күн бұрын
  • Appreciate you included more of the teardown

    @GabeSullice@GabeSullice25 күн бұрын
  • That bearing rotation constraint is most excellent !!

    @solarcannonballrun@solarcannonballrun24 күн бұрын
    • Absolutely! Huge improvement for reliability/life cost. Some bearings have had pins/nubs on the outer race to prevent spinning and I've never understood why more of them don't.

      @heartysteer8752@heartysteer875224 күн бұрын
    • После разборки, совместить три подшипника будет не возможно, это сделано чтобы вы не смогли сделать ремонт

      @hybridinnovate@hybridinnovate22 күн бұрын
    • It adds parts: the bearing rotation locking mechanism and the spring. Does not align with a "the best part is no part" philosophy. Should by constantly checked for better alternatives.

      @MooseOnEarth@MooseOnEarth21 күн бұрын
    • @@hybridinnovate Munro disassembled these very drive units including getting those bearings out. Why do you think this hinders repair of the units? Do you think, they broke the spring mechanism?

      @MooseOnEarth@MooseOnEarth21 күн бұрын
    • @@MooseOnEarth это не мешает ремонту, позиционировать одновременно 3 подшипника для сборки будет не просто

      @hybridinnovate@hybridinnovate19 күн бұрын
  • Great video, thank you so much for putting this for free! Some thoughts on the non segmented magnets: First of all, yes there are eddy current losses in the magnets but they are quite small compared to iron and copper losses. Still they can be problematic since they are the heat source in a temperature sensitive part. One problem with the segmentation is that you will lose some torque because of having less magnet material in the rotor. This will make the motor a bit less efficient. I think that this loss of efficiency could be more than the additional eddy current losses. However, these eddy current losses are mainly due to the current harmonics caused by the PWM. This means that you can drastically influence the magnet losses by the PWM. Maybe Tesla optimized their PWM in order to reduce the magnet losses for not having to segment the magnets.

    @DBlackRihno@DBlackRihno25 күн бұрын
    • Dont worry MUNRO will SELL the Cybertruck report for $1 MILLION Dollars.

      @markplott4820@markplott482024 күн бұрын
    • It has nothing to do with what you are saying. It’s because this pm motor will never reach deep into the flux weakening region. If you are interested I can explain why I know.

      @ignaciohavok1@ignaciohavok124 күн бұрын
    • I am ​@@ignaciohavok1

      @FormalElements@FormalElements24 күн бұрын
    • @@ignaciohavok1 I am interested, please explain!

      @JohnChuprun@JohnChuprun24 күн бұрын
    • ​@@ignaciohavok1sounds interesting, could you explain? Does it mean the motor is not driven to high speeds or is the corner speed quite high?

      @DBlackRihno@DBlackRihno24 күн бұрын
  • The disassembly intro adds context and perspective. If you were to add them to most of your videos we all would get a lot more out of them... THANKS!!!

    @TheKevlar@TheKevlar24 күн бұрын
  • Dear Mr. Munro and Team, I wanted to extend my heartfelt appreciation for the incredible work you all have done in meticulously disassembling and analyzing the state-of-the-art machines. Tesla’s attention to details and dedication to refining their design and technology are truly remarkable. I was particularly fascinated by the hair-pin windings which I saw in some recent cars alternators. To me, they are a piece of art. No wonder why tesla is the ev-leaders, the mindfulness and understanding displayed by Tesla engineers in perfecting even the smallest details is truly commendable. Thanks

    @petrichors@petrichors25 күн бұрын
    • STFU. TESLA IS GARBAGE

      @fib4923@fib492324 күн бұрын
    • Hairpin motors have been around since at least the mid 1950s. Yes it looks very neat but is nothing new :)

      @JohnChuprun@JohnChuprun24 күн бұрын
    • Elon isn't going to read this or take it into account at your next HR assessment mate... LoL 🤣

      @edwardfletcher7790@edwardfletcher779024 күн бұрын
    • @@edwardfletcher7790 Yes! These teardowns are pure Tesla PR. The engineering is OK, but strikingly ordinary. A naive audience would be impressed by a mid 1950's automatic transmission, an ordinary ICE, a Timex mechanical watch... shiny stuff. Nothing in the Tesla is fundamentally different or better than all the cool stuff in any of the other electric cars, And most of those others have not had anywhere near as many troubling safety-related recalls: steering wheels that fall off, steering racks that are not mounted correctly, Cybertruck accelerators that jam, etc.

      @kenfry2664@kenfry266423 күн бұрын
    • @@kenfry2664 I'm glad someone else noticed the problems I did. The whole under carriage is a cleaning and rust prevention nightmare !!

      @edwardfletcher7790@edwardfletcher779023 күн бұрын
  • Cooling the magnets makes sense, because overheating a magnet can reduce it's strength permanently.

    @briansilver9652@briansilver965225 күн бұрын
  • Kudos to Munro and associates - all your presenters are very experienced and do outstanding presentations. Excellent information and excellent naught.

    @RagnarinVa@RagnarinVa23 күн бұрын
  • My Honda Civic at 460,000 miles says otherwise. I got that out of a piston car. It's more than doable if you regularly maintain.

    @1950sAmericanFather@1950sAmericanFather24 күн бұрын
    • Don’t confuse the cult with facts. Elon could take a dump on a sidewalk and they would be clamoring to put it on their mantle! 🙄

      @richardwolf6269@richardwolf626924 күн бұрын
    • 03 E220CDI , had over 1M Km and a original turbo on it's way out when my family got rid of it . Grandpa passed it down to my aunt and she traded it in for a 2016 BMW 3 series Gran Coupe. Car had literally 0 issues other than the loud turbo .

      @whambodius@whambodius19 күн бұрын
    • Even if they don't rebuilding or replacing an engine is still cheaper than a new battery half the time and it's not clear how many new batteries these cars would need to do that kind of mileage.

      @SpencerHHO@SpencerHHO12 күн бұрын
    • Civic reliability is absolutely phenomenal, the on of the few things beyond a civic is an early 2000s diesel Volkswagen Jetta, a million miles is common with those things. What year of civic do you have? I recall that the most (in fact the only) I could find of the Honda civics that were able to reach a million miles were all 2006.

      @alexwalker8422@alexwalker84226 күн бұрын
    • She's an 07 civic. Has all the paint issues, but mechanically absolutely sound.

      @1950sAmericanFather@1950sAmericanFather5 күн бұрын
  • "It's not a guess. It's an engineering assumption." Best Sandy quote ever!

    @selldivision@selldivision24 күн бұрын
    • Ask the man whether he would trust a Cybertruck pulling a travel trailer up into mountains with the wife and kids... or a 73 Ford LTD wagon/trailer towing package 🙃

      @jim9930@jim993015 күн бұрын
  • This kind of videos really benefits from Sandy outlining the wider meaning and historic place of all the technical details. As a software engineer I otherwise wouldn’t quite catch the showcased engineering genius 🙏🏻

    @flowtoolz5554@flowtoolz555425 күн бұрын
    • Software & Hardware need to work alongside on the Floor , to better understand one another.

      @markplott4820@markplott482024 күн бұрын
    • @@markplott4820 Isn't that the truth. Especially when it comes to embedded design, it's easy to say "X" will work, then realize it doesn't in practice. Flashbacks to RS-232 vs RS-485 pain in the rear. Especially when the company is trying to be cheap.

      @arthurmoore9488@arthurmoore948822 күн бұрын
  • _Extraordinary Engineering_ That was an engaging teardown boys! Can't wait for the next one....

    @ivankuljis1780@ivankuljis178024 күн бұрын
  • Would love to see more of those big honking gears, that's some pretty wicked stuff. Machined, smooth, shiny metal - practical and beautiful all at once.

    @lennyvalentin6485@lennyvalentin648524 күн бұрын
  • that spring loaded pin to catch and stop outer race from spinning is so smart of an idea.. and Sandy's response "so anyways..." lol

    @user-xj5xp6qz5g@user-xj5xp6qz5g25 күн бұрын
    • It's an interesting solution but... The tiny pin may prevent a small problem from quickly becoming a bigger one however at the power and torque levels involved once that bearing gets grabby its going to spin unless the operator notices the change in sound when it starts to fail and has it serviced expeditiously. Time will tell whether having that pin tear loose causes more damage than it prevents. Hopefully the MTBF of those bearings exceeds the half to one million mile operational life expectation of the vehicle. I can see that spring loaded pin failing and causing damage similar to other implementations using spring located pins that we've had for some time in pneumatic and hydraulic tools. If the damage isn't too catastrophic sometimes I've been able to just clean up the seating area and drill a new hole for the locating pin and spring while other times its weld and machine a new surface or replace that part of the housing depending on the cost of the part and the value of the unit or perhaps the cost of the downtime. Like Sandy said:. so anyways... ;> Best!

      @neilfromclearwaterfl81@neilfromclearwaterfl8124 күн бұрын
  • Only by Munro... thx folks for the teardown and comments, this info is priceless both for existing and future EV owners. Keep on building great name!

    @El.Duder-ino@El.Duder-ino22 күн бұрын
  • I am no electrical engineer but Tesla uses segmented magnets in their other motors. There must be a valid reason why they changed. I remember a few years ago Sandy was surprised at segmented magnets used in the model 3 motor

    @jamesaspinwall@jamesaspinwall25 күн бұрын
    • If loss of efficiency is the downside, it is possible that torque is the upside?

      @patreekotime4578@patreekotime457825 күн бұрын
    • I think its very likely that the inefficiency is only noticeable at high power loads, which it too infrequent to have an impact on range. The motor will have at least 300hp and will probably be using less than 60 at cruising speed.

      @EwanM11@EwanM1125 күн бұрын
    • Trucks need MORE Torque than Speed . more Efficiency over Acceleration. more RANGE when Towing.

      @markplott4820@markplott482024 күн бұрын
    • my best guess is that elon has 4 years backlog on the cybertruck. Now take that to its conclusion.........

      @davidanalyst671@davidanalyst67124 күн бұрын
    • @@davidanalyst671 No idea what you mean. What does the magnet has to do with the backlog?

      @jamesaspinwall@jamesaspinwall24 күн бұрын
  • I think the magnets issue is so that tesla intentionally makes the motor hotter so that it can use that heat to keep the battery warm in colder weather. It is really the only motor that is running most of the time and especially on the highway. So, there is a lot of heat loss in colder climates. Basically, they don't have to add a heater, but then they can modulate the cooling for hotter climates, or even shift the work to the induction motors. I am just guessing, but I'm usually right.

    @Andi_Doci@Andi_Doci14 күн бұрын
  • Ben's explanations have been awesome! Thanks to both! 👏👏😍😍

    @deltajohnny@deltajohnny23 күн бұрын
  • this is just an amazing 20 minutes piece of knowledge. THANKS

    @TushhsuT@TushhsuT19 күн бұрын
  • thanks Munro team!

    @nahuelkondratzky7664@nahuelkondratzky766424 күн бұрын
  • Great craftsmanship.

    @arthurwagar88@arthurwagar8823 күн бұрын
  • "You'll never get that (half a million miles) engine life from an ice car." I'm real damn sure a couple of ICE cars have passed a million miles, not just half a million.

    @lyfandeth@lyfandeth24 күн бұрын
    • Guy math: Spending $30,000 and countless hours to keep a $3,000 vehicle running. 😁

      @thanksno4911@thanksno491124 күн бұрын
    • Stalin math: “Spending $60k ($30k + your labor) to get that lone $3k car to 1 M miles is a tragedy. Getting 1 M Teslas to 1 M miles is a statistic.”

      @mikemccarthy1638@mikemccarthy163824 күн бұрын
    • Better than spending a 100 grand on the Cybertruck monstrosity! I have almost 300,000 miles on my 4 cylinder Toyota 4 runner with the original engine and tranny and still runs great. New radiator, driveshaft with new u joints, tires, brakes, oil changes and that’s it! Parts are cheap. Let’s see a Tesla after 300,000 miles. If the battery goes tits up then take out a loan! I’m not anti EV but they have their place, we have a 2020 Chevy bolt which sees the majority of our miles now but it won’t replace our motorhome for travel or Chevy pickup for hauling.

      @richardwolf6269@richardwolf626924 күн бұрын
    • @@richardwolf6269 There are plenty of Tesla's over 300K. Half a million is much tougher to hit, almost no on drives enough to do that on a vehicle before it way ages out. The avg yearly mileage for someone in the US is around 13.5K. That would be 37 years for the average person.

      @whattheschmidt@whattheschmidt23 күн бұрын
    • Yeah there are a couple that have but that is the exception and not the norm. Less than 0.2% of vehicles on the road get to 500000

      @pilotavery@pilotavery23 күн бұрын
  • Awesome!!! Thank you so much!!

    @TomTom-cm2oq@TomTom-cm2oq22 күн бұрын
  • Love the bearing retention detail! Huge improvement for reliability/life cost. Some bearings have had pins/nubs on the outer race to prevent spinning and I've never understood why more of them don't.

    @heartysteer8752@heartysteer875224 күн бұрын
  • AMAZING! THANKS FOR VIDEO!

    @1944chevytruck@1944chevytruck24 күн бұрын
  • thank you sandy n team

    @vincentdeleonjr1039@vincentdeleonjr103924 күн бұрын
  • Great info. Thank you to the whole team.

    @SDTVDirector@SDTVDirector25 күн бұрын
    • Our pleasure!

      @MunroLive@MunroLive25 күн бұрын
  • All motors can be "turned off" in motion; the difference between induction and PM is the magnetic drag while unpowered, as more clearly explained in another Munro video by Paul.

    @brianb-p6586@brianb-p658624 күн бұрын
  • Really thanks sir ,god bless you and your family

    @senthilkumarsenthil832@senthilkumarsenthil83211 күн бұрын
  • Paul was really a great communicator in this video.

    @Scott-sm9nm@Scott-sm9nm16 күн бұрын
  • Be interesting putting two of these motors in one vehicle 😀

    @chrisvig123@chrisvig1237 күн бұрын
  • The supplier videos are excellent, the 3 D Services Group look to be extremely impressive.

    @marcusoutdoors4999@marcusoutdoors499923 күн бұрын
  • Awesome wideo! Thanks for sharing knowledge! Greetings from Poland!

    @Kuba5878@Kuba587824 күн бұрын
  • Excellent video.

    @sirousmohseni4@sirousmohseni424 күн бұрын
    • Thank you very much!

      @MunroLive@MunroLive23 күн бұрын
  • Terrific overview.

    @avocade@avocade18 күн бұрын
  • The motor is a work of art

    @nicholaslandolina@nicholaslandolina23 күн бұрын
    • ))) у вас плохой вкус. Это произведение маркетологов.

      @user-bq3fw4ps2e@user-bq3fw4ps2e5 күн бұрын
  • I'm glad we have you two as Americans. I hope you have contacts at the DOD -- they need some more folks like yall in their rolodex.

    @phobosmoon4643@phobosmoon464325 күн бұрын
    • a cyberbeast costs 100k. a f35 costs $30,000,000. He has contacts, but it sure would be fun to see sandy do a teardown on A JLTV. I would 100% watch that.

      @davidanalyst671@davidanalyst67124 күн бұрын
    • I vaguely recall that in some previous videos Sandy mentioned he had worked on some military projects.

      @CiaranMcHale@CiaranMcHale24 күн бұрын
  • Thanks! Wondering if the dual motor will have a similar set-up only reversing the PM with the induction motor. Also wondering if having the induction motor up front turned off at highway speeds would help with noise vs having the PM running all the time.

    @richardalexander5758@richardalexander575825 күн бұрын
    • The induction motor is noisier you have coil whine on the stator and the rotor while PM motors only have coils on the stator.

      @kazedcat@kazedcat24 күн бұрын
    • I believe I saw somewhere mention that on the 2 motor the induction is in the front and PM in the back.

      @vegajf51@vegajf5124 күн бұрын
  • Great video and I hope your hands getting better love the work you’ve been doing in that area too

    @user-ux3gh3nt8i@user-ux3gh3nt8i3 күн бұрын
  • I learn a lot from Munro, Tesla and others; Thanks! - With the Cybertruck I see a certain amount of over-engineering and a vehicle that no longer helps many people in their daily lives, and there is no blessing from Above. - On the other hand, useful vehicles for many people, in many regions and many terrains in the world, small and affordable, robust and simple, economical "Model 2" are needed! Small cars for 3, 4 or 5 people, with a length of 2.8m to 3.5m (!), that is my area of work and is on the rise. Because there are already enough big, expensive “dinosaur cars” that will die out, but the little clever things give the world hope.

    @erichschindl6530@erichschindl653024 күн бұрын
    • YES!

      @kenfry2664@kenfry266423 күн бұрын
  • I love this truck even MORE now that I see the innards

    @toxic.lobster@toxic.lobster25 күн бұрын
    • I am DYING to see the electrical system. DYING!!!

      @davidanalyst671@davidanalyst67124 күн бұрын
    • Do you love it when they use soap to lubricate the accelerator pedal and have to recall every last truck due to suds left over? Lmao junk

      @Bimmer_Bill@Bimmer_Bill24 күн бұрын
    • @wethomas3 I love to see someone take a risk, innovate, move our perception into new direction. Ford made a lot of mistakes that cost the lives of many people before they dialed in their trucks. The issues you mention are minor. If you think you can do better, have at'er, I doubt you could compete.

      @toxic.lobster@toxic.lobster24 күн бұрын
    • @@toxic.lobster wait, you’re telling me that a stuck accelerator pedal (the reason for the recall) is “minor”? Fwiw I’m not a fan of Ford either buddy. But let’s be honest, Tesla while they innovate in areas they are shoddy compared to the rest of the industry in many others. iPads on the dash and faulty misnamed “FSD” systems aren’t impressive. Keep it 💯

      @Bimmer_Bill@Bimmer_Bill24 күн бұрын
  • Could it be that the magnet is segmented internally, inside the outer plating, or made of a less electrically conductive material to reduce eddy curent losses?

    @mikeselectricstuff@mikeselectricstuff25 күн бұрын
    • How much eddy current loss there is in a magnet though? Doesn't the stator aim to keep the magnetic field quite constant relative to the magnets, and a constant field definitely doesn't produce eddy currents!

      @celeron55@celeron5525 күн бұрын
    • you don't put an outer metal plating on a series of magnets. Thats magnets 101 man. Any metal solidly connected to the magnets would distort the mag field. You could segment the magnets, wrap in saran wrap, and then dip in liquid steel, like they dip snickers bars in chocolate, but that would increase the distance from magnetic material to the lectric coils it reacts with.... so you wouldn't do that.

      @davidanalyst671@davidanalyst67124 күн бұрын
    • @mikeselectricstuff , Wow, you would be a great addition to the Monroe reverse engineering team. I can hear your whispering voice now discussing the finer details as the components are carefully disassembled. I have been waiting for the day you disassemble an MRI superconducting magnet on your channel.

      @briannease4117@briannease411724 күн бұрын
    • I assume they did something to the metallurgy of the permanent magnet. That would be a low hanging fruit. Tweak the silicon content or add some exotic element and bam eddy current is reduced significantly.

      @kazedcat@kazedcat24 күн бұрын
  • I'm loving these

    @AZIFMIKAYRE@AZIFMIKAYRE24 күн бұрын
  • Hi informative video thank you.. from India

    @rajeshkumarkp1966@rajeshkumarkp196625 күн бұрын
  • Thanks I’ve been waiting for this.

    @mymelt1770@mymelt177024 күн бұрын
  • The thick aluminum end plates on the PM rotor, if it is closer to the stator will have higher eddy currents that is not good for efficiency. If cooling is the reason why not have some holes on those end plates.?

    @silverback3633@silverback363325 күн бұрын
    • air permittivity vs aluminum permittivity, good observation

      @AntonioDiNunnoEVS@AntonioDiNunnoEVS25 күн бұрын
  • thank you for having sandy and other presenters in this one. sandy makes the material watchable.

    @joejane9977@joejane997724 күн бұрын
  • Induction and PM synchronous motors sharing stator design is good, but not new - Tesla has done that since their first PM motor, in the Model 3. Like the Model 3, the axial lengths are different, to suit different flux density and power requirements. Long before Tesla, Remy (now BorgWarner) offered their HVH series (which is also bar-wound with hairpins) with a choice of induction or PM rotors using exactly the same stator. It's good to see Tesla continuing this practice, and finally catching up to use bar winding.

    @brianb-p6586@brianb-p658624 күн бұрын
  • Is there a parking pawl in either motor? Both? For slippery coastal boat ramp use, I need to be able to lock all 4 wheels in park.

    @g6cpm6@g6cpm612 күн бұрын
  • This channel is so cool, just found it. Seems like a great company, would love to work there!

    @codescholar7345@codescholar734523 күн бұрын
  • I really enjoy this content. Nice job!

    @FallingESP@FallingESP24 күн бұрын
    • Glad you enjoy it!

      @MunroLive@MunroLive24 күн бұрын
  • Sandy is the man.

    @bernardradcliffe6240@bernardradcliffe624022 күн бұрын
  • Thank you for educating us, great content!

    @solarenergynow08@solarenergynow0825 күн бұрын
  • I, to the segmented magnets!

    @cliftonsr@cliftonsr25 күн бұрын
  • 14:50 Munro, are we sure there are significant eddy currents in a Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motor? The whole point of the word Synchronous is that the magnetic pole from the stator is rotating in phase with the rotor’s permanent magnetic field poles. If there is significant pole slipping (relative movement between stator and rotor) then I think there is a problem in design or control systems. Relative movement between the field and conductor is required for an eddy current.

    @matthewmosher7676@matthewmosher767624 күн бұрын
    • We know heating is a problem that is why they opened up the end plate to get oil in. So there must be significant heating losses happening in the rotor near the magnets. Otherwise it would be much easier to fabricate the rotor all sealed up.

      @kazedcat@kazedcat24 күн бұрын
    • The magnetic field is still passed from pole to pole in the stator. Even when three or so poles overlap per winding, there is some field fluctuation passing through the rotor. So it's like amplitude modulation.

      @imconsequetau5275@imconsequetau527522 күн бұрын
  • Is the solid magnet for the motor the reason there is a pulsing vibration at some speeds? This is reminiscent of older automatic transmission when you are traveling at a speed that is kind of between two gears.

    @Gamegenio@Gamegenio3 күн бұрын
  • yes! the motor break down.

    @simmonslucas@simmonslucas20 күн бұрын
  • So does the dual motor configuration have two of the fronts that are in the cyber beast? Do we know that yet?

    @DavidSelf3@DavidSelf325 күн бұрын
    • The rear motor on the dual motor model is a single configuration of the induction rear motors used here.

      @ReinReads@ReinReads24 күн бұрын
  • At Investor Day in March 2023, Tesla announced that it planned to move away from rare earth metals in future motor designs. It would be interesting to hear if Tesla has managed to do this in the Cybertruck's motors.

    @CiaranMcHale@CiaranMcHale24 күн бұрын
  • Thanks!

    @MTerrance@MTerrance24 күн бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @MunroLive@MunroLive24 күн бұрын
  • So to be clear on the front differential- it's not limited slip, it's an electronic locker- giving a true Detroit locker type of performance?

    @markkelliher5216@markkelliher521623 күн бұрын
    • This locker allows both electric motors to send combined torque to the wheel that grips. Only really needed if a single motor has insufficient torque, which is a weakness in the PM reluctance rotor design.

      @imconsequetau5275@imconsequetau527522 күн бұрын
  • Great video as always! What about the accelerator pedal recall? It would be nice if you could show what is the issue

    @theagentsmith@theagentsmith24 күн бұрын
    • That has nothing to do with the drive units so it's not relevant to this video... and it's just a loose pedal cover.

      @brianb-p6586@brianb-p658624 күн бұрын
    • That’s already been revealed. Production decided to use an unauthorized lubricant to help with installation of the break pedal pad. While it did help speed up production it also makes it possible for the pad to slip. Good news is that it’s a simple fix to prevent going forward and to correct the few thousand they have produced so far.

      @ReinReads@ReinReads24 күн бұрын
    • Seems to me that the pedal cover issue caused a backlog of Cybertruck to build up in the Austin GF parking lots long before this became public.

      @imconsequetau5275@imconsequetau527522 күн бұрын
  • I love induction motors! Such a indestructible design, soo easy to drive without all the position-sensing hall sensor junk. Makes me happy that they still use them even in modern electric cars

    @WolfmanDude@WolfmanDude24 күн бұрын
    • I agree.

      @kenfry2664@kenfry266423 күн бұрын
  • Another top episode :)

    @GregSpedding@GregSpedding24 күн бұрын
  • how does the grooves on the lamination of induction motor rotor cage eliminate torque ripple? and how is it better than skewed rotor?

    @brandonrk7966@brandonrk796625 күн бұрын
    • It's not better just cheaper to fabricate. The grooves splits the magnetic fields.

      @kazedcat@kazedcat24 күн бұрын
    • I was taught that offset fins make the mechanical characteristics of the engine more "smooth"

      @SashaDovbnia@SashaDovbnia5 күн бұрын
  • Is installing two electric motors a better solution than one motor with an adaptive/adjustable differential?

    @amazeddude1780@amazeddude178021 күн бұрын
  • This *has* to be watched at 1.5 playback speed. The anticipation was killing me.

    @samuraihippo1@samuraihippo123 күн бұрын
  • The segmented magnets make great sense if the truck is only operating in hot climates. But Tesla uses motor inefficiencies to generate heat to put into the heat pump that keeps the battery and cab warm. It may well be that when they run the calculations, the extra heat is required more often and the solid batteries allow this to be generated faster and at less electrical cost. Rapid warm up and keeping the battery warm is very important. Not to mention creature comfort.

    @jeremytaylor3532@jeremytaylor353224 күн бұрын
  • i assume at this point in the tesla story...if there's a design change or something that is "inexplicable" then it is for a damn good reason.

    @rwhirsch@rwhirsch25 күн бұрын
    • @rwhirsch Yes, but I think the reasons might not be instantly obvious. Is it simply cost savings? And is that simply to make the cars more affordable? Or cheaper to run? Or durability? Or better performance? And is that more power or greater efficiency? Tesla has greater integration in their engineering teams than anyone else, and I will bet there are many conversations that go, "Hey! I gained X% more something!" to which another engineer says, "Did you consider XYZ?" ...."Oh shit! Back to the drawing board" From which they end up with a third option that solves both problems. This is why I don't think many manufacturers are going to catch up all that quickly. Would love to see how the latest Mach-E compares to the first version. In particular the thermal management was a dog's breakfast. Even Ford admitted they missed an awful lot of details on the Mach-E generally.

      @grahammonk8013@grahammonk801324 күн бұрын
  • great presentation what is the weight of a motor ?

    @TheFastphill@TheFastphill24 күн бұрын
  • Doesn't the aluminium shrink after being cast in the rotor? I imagine you'll have some gaps and resistances. Maybe also adding noise?

    @DariusOutdoors@DariusOutdoors21 күн бұрын
  • 750000m LOL. Thanks, haven't laughed that hard in quite a while

    @BramBiesiekierski@BramBiesiekierski24 күн бұрын
  • I have wondered for a while, do you do any measurements on the gears? I have missed this being mentioned in the past. As a gear guy this interests me, I am so tempted to disassembly my tesla gear boxes to measure the gears.

    @billabke@billabke24 күн бұрын
    • Они достаточно массивные )))

      @user-bq3fw4ps2e@user-bq3fw4ps2e5 күн бұрын
  • little drill marks on the induction motor casting to maybe balance it like balancing a tire?

    @gregsutton2400@gregsutton240025 күн бұрын
    • Yep. You'll see it on most (all?) motors.

      @tesla_tap@tesla_tap24 күн бұрын
  • Nice!

    @speedy_pit_stop@speedy_pit_stop18 күн бұрын
  • 😍😍

    @TeslaElonSpaceXFan@TeslaElonSpaceXFan24 күн бұрын
  • Just as a clarification. When you say "noise". You are talking about electromagnetic noise?

    @hgh425@hgh42523 күн бұрын
  • Power is in Watt, why still use these archaic HP ? And which one ? The one = 746W ? Same for torque, Nm etc...

    @jpcaretta8847@jpcaretta884725 күн бұрын
    • Because this America, and hp is the standard used by the general public to compare motor power. We use SAE wire guages in cars, and AWG guages for everything else. Those are standards in use. Engineers use the ISO standard for geographic position of only degrees, to five decimal places. And that's fine, but no navigators or cartographers use it. They use two different standards of degrees, minutes, and either decimal minutes, or seconds. Try to change standards. By all means.

      @lyfandeth@lyfandeth24 күн бұрын
    • ​@@lyfandethgreat for proving me right, you seem so confused ! 😮 Imagine this Tesla designed and built according to SAE NON METRIC standards (pre seventies) 😅 Thanks Ford who made the inch exactly 25.4 mm ! Imagine the mess if it was still based on the survey units ? As for the US general public , sad to compare its education level to the rest of the civilised world. I have a foot both sides of the pond.

      @jpcaretta8847@jpcaretta884724 күн бұрын
  • I bet Munro's about to sell a whole lot of Cybertruck teardown reports once this series is finished.

    @Pikminiman@Pikminiman24 күн бұрын
    • Hope so

      @MunroLive@MunroLive23 күн бұрын
  • What about the accelerator pedal… ALL CT are recalled because of defect pedals 🥲

    @Juuythljgrrdwq@Juuythljgrrdwq24 күн бұрын
  • Great shaft

    @davidtrumble8609@davidtrumble860924 күн бұрын
  • Cheers.

    @memrjohnno@memrjohnno23 күн бұрын
  • Great content, bring back the younger engineers please.

    @hair2050@hair205024 күн бұрын
    • We feature many engineers on our channel.

      @MunroLive@MunroLive24 күн бұрын
  • When engineers sound like a kid in a candy shop. Buy it.

    @davidbeppler3032@davidbeppler303225 күн бұрын
    • lol......

      @alanmay7929@alanmay792925 күн бұрын
    • Just buy a Toyota and your fine!

      @brunoheggli2888@brunoheggli288825 күн бұрын
    • ​@@brunoheggli2888 Toyota is pretty impressive tech... For 20 years ago. I don't suggest buying a Toyota. They'll go bankrupt in the next 10 years.

      @themonsterunderyourbed9408@themonsterunderyourbed940825 күн бұрын
    • @@brunoheggli2888Firstly,"You're" Secondly, a fair bit of Toyota's reliability reputation is because they reuse everything they can. At least, early on, many things in various cars were the same, in engineering terms, but repackaged for different vehicles. I'm not sure how much of that they still do, but it makes me wonder how much of that explains why they are doing so poorly building BEVs.

      @grahammonk8013@grahammonk801324 күн бұрын
    • @@brunoheggli2888been doing it for decades until Tesla… Lexus and Toyota now is really the what u get compared to my legacy Camry in the 90s… nothing exciting

      @PinoyTeslaTech@PinoyTeslaTech24 күн бұрын
  • Heat can reduce or destroy magnetism. So cooling them may also increase magnet life/power.

    @lyfandeth@lyfandeth24 күн бұрын
  • Any news on the battery configuration? You wanted to look under the sides of the pack to look for more cells there and check the engineering assumption of 192s7p for the configuration of the pack.

    @MooseOnEarth@MooseOnEarth21 күн бұрын
  • 12:00 The first time I saw Sandy was before the Pandemic, on Autoline After Hours. . . Showing John McElroy Tesla’s “Secret Sauce”, pulling a segmented magnet out of his tweed jacket.

    @dewiz9596@dewiz959625 күн бұрын
  • Just a question regarding the aluminum battery wire: why can't it also be stamped and then isolated?

    @niklaskarlsson236@niklaskarlsson23623 күн бұрын
    • What is the issue with just bending the concentric assembly? I don't see any downside.

      @imconsequetau5275@imconsequetau527522 күн бұрын
  • Regarding the mechanical rear diff locking, why would that be needed when you have two servo-controlled motors with positional feedback? Surely they can simply command that they follow the same motion profile to come close to emulating a locked diff? The induction motors might not be quite as smooth as PM at low speed but I wonder why that wasn't done as it's a far cheaper solution, even if shaft resolvers of a higher resolution were needed? The bearing outer-race locking feature addresses a problem when over-sized ball-bearings are specified to handle helical-gear thrust loading, including cases where a tapered-roller pair would normally be used. It avoids the finicky preload setup on assembly but introduces a new problem because the minimum radial loading required to avoid outer-race spin in a slip-fit assembly situation is not achieved. This is a clever solution from Tesla as the spring pin even avoids needing to index the bearing during assembly. Thanks for the video, Munro team, alway interesting!

    @boredKiwi@boredKiwi23 күн бұрын
    • The reason is that when a wheel lifts off and traction is lost, a locked differential allows *_both_* electric motors to apply torque to the single tire.

      @imconsequetau5275@imconsequetau527522 күн бұрын
    • It seem to me that locker mechanics was in the front permanent magnet motor section. I could be wrong.

      @redwood6737@redwood673722 күн бұрын
    • @@redwood6737 good catch! I watched it again and you're correct that this was the front drive unit. They didn't show us the insides of the rear diff unit unfortunately.

      @boredKiwi@boredKiwi22 күн бұрын
    • @@boredKiwi thank you sir

      @redwood6737@redwood673722 күн бұрын
    • @@boredKiwi thank you sir, I also got out the magnifying glass and when Sandy entered the picture they showed a spec sheet and on that sheet they’re showing 10,296 foot pound torque. The regular cyber truck there are actually showing 7435 Torque, not sure where they got those specs from but looks like they’re off by quite a bit. Not sure who did the misprint but I can’t imagine this Tesla putting out more than 1000 pounds of torque like my ram truck diesel Dooley Cummins.

      @redwood6737@redwood673722 күн бұрын
  • At 16:18 won’t that dent in the outside of bearing be susceptible to quicker wearing ?

    @junioo3692@junioo369224 күн бұрын
  • What do you think is causing the stuck pedal issue with the cybertruck?

    @jmarxful@jmarxful21 күн бұрын
  • Nice video.

    @Reddylion@Reddylion24 күн бұрын
  • Super!

    @Chas_Reno@Chas_Reno24 күн бұрын
  • I wonder if the rear door hinges can be moved to the front doors

    @cookiehumper1224@cookiehumper122425 күн бұрын
  • 🔥🔥

    @JarmelSingsKaraoke@JarmelSingsKaraoke25 күн бұрын
  • Cool

    @Demy26@Demy2625 күн бұрын
  • 04:18 Isn't it 10 bars per slot in the hairpin of the PM motor of CyberTruck? From what I can see on the video, there are 5 rows of end windings there.

    @danyangcui@danyangcui6 күн бұрын
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