How to install an ASUS hyper m.2 gen 4 riser card in a x570 motherboard.
How to install an ASUS hyper m.2 gen 4 riser card in a x570 motherboard. I've looked all over the internet to find out how to add two or four more nvme drives to my ASUS x570 motherboard. People talked about it and mentioned things like birfurcation, but they never explained the process to make it work. So I finally figured it out, and since I'm not a big computer guy, I've made this tutorial and explanation video for all of you other non computer people. I hope this helps.
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Just a note. Not every motherboard supports bifurcation. Make sure that you know the limits of your computer components such as your motherboard and CPU.
sooo, if stats read 1 x PCIe 5.0 x16 SafeSlot (x16 or x8) [CPU] 1 x PCIe 4.0 x16 Slot (x4 or x4/x4) [Chipset] 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 Slot (x4) [Chipset] 1 x PCIe 3.0 x1 Slot [Chipset] on the z690, do you think this would no longer be an issue and I can simply put the riser in the second slot with no drawbacks?
weird that this viodeo appears about a week after i've just done it with the same mobo, and card......even stranger how seasrch didnt find it before hand....
Maybe? If it's running through the chipset...Not sure, give it a shot!
Don't show your face Narcissist.
when in doubt, Google it. I know most ASUS motherboards support it.
Well done. I do have an extensive IT background, but you broke what might be an intimidating and confusing subject down for those with little or no experience. You’re a natural teacher. 😉👍
Thank you! Glad that it came out clear enough for people.
Extremely well done! I learned how to use mine the same way you did - I spend hours and hours searching the web. I almost gave up but finally combined disparate pieces that I learned into a usable understanding of what you adroitly summarized in less than ten minutes. Ultimately, a number of people should benefit from watching your video.
Thank you! Yea it just bugged me that nobody had a video out there on how to use this thing. All of my game are on it now and it works amazingly.
I want to buy one for my strix b650e-e so I can get more storage for all my games
Crystal clear, I was looking for info on these adapters and your vid is the most complete and practical I've found !
Really glad this helped you!
I’m far from being a tech person but I love how you detail your videos for newbies like me. Much appreciated and please keep your videos detailed like this, cheers 🍻
Im glad it helped! Yea so this video was when I was gonna take a different approach with my channel, but I ended up going back to the content that I love which is World of Warcraft. If you play the game, stick around! Would love to have you here.
Well done. I've been looking into a few videos on this subject, and you're the only creator that has mentioned the interaction between the riser and a graphics card. Thanks for the info!
My pleasure! Yea it bothered me that nobody made a video about it.
Critical video that I see before making my purchase decision. Fig examples are very helpful. Thank you for sharing this video with us.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks a lot for explaining because I spent two days on it trying to use all four slots while only enabling two. Thanks again for the simple explanation
Glad it helped!
Very well explained with clear instructions. Absolutely awesome video, thank you.
Glad it helped!
Thank you for this video!! I just bought a ASUS hyper m.2 card, and I have an Asus X570 motherboard, so this video is just what I needed.
Glad I could help!
This is a very helpful video, as Asus provides very little documentation on this card, and I've had to rely on videos like this for instructions. I tried this card earlier in a motherboard that did support bifurcation, but only for boot RAID, which I didn't want, so I'm about to put this into an X570 board.
Glad it helped! It’s been great in mine.
Thanks for this great informative video. Keep up the good work. All the best
I'm glad I found your video before I purchased this card. Never thought that I have to split the bandwidth of the 2nd pcie lane for the expansion card.
Im glad it helped! I’ve been using mine for some time now and it’s been nice. Mainly because I love ASUS products and trust them.
Thank-You! So much for this Tutorial Video. I was gonna choose this motherboard but didn't know how the riser card worked. I think I'll save myself a huge hassle if I buy 2TB or higher and just get a board with more m.2 nvme slots.
Glad that helped! Yea it’s a fun thing to add to your rig for sure.
Great explanation and just what I was looing for (Have the same board in my current build)
Glad that this helps! Really bothered me that nobody made a video on how to do this with an X570. Hope it turns out great for you!
Been trying to set up mine for so long and finally got it working after watching your video. Kudos.
Glad it helped
Really helpful. Thanks. It's weird that I can hardly find anyone talking about this on Internet.
Main reason why I researched it and made this video. Nobody wanted to explain how it really works
Very helpful explanation. Thanks for taking the time!
Im glad it helped!
well since i started doing chia farming, and plotting on nvme drives, i learned a lot about pci e. In short, all motherboards have pcie (version xx) x16. BUT!!! That x16 only refers to the bigslot that it FITTS big cards who are x16. But it doesnt say anything about the speed, since 9/10 motherboards HAVE pcie x16, but run at x4 ;) so the bifurcation etc IS THE THING to look for if you want to get insane nvme speeds!
Great video! Thanks for sharing all the solid information!
Hope it helps someone out there! Took me forever to figure this out!
Thank you! I'm from Brazil and you helped me a lot!!
What are the odds that I’m considering this project but want to know if it will work for me and you have the exact same motherboard as me. Great vid! Thanks for taking the time to share what you learned! 👏🏼
Im glad it helped! Yea I was frustrated that nobody made a video on how to make this work on a x570 so I thought “people need to know!” Enjoy your new riser card!
Awesome video man! Really appreciate the effort!
Glad it helped!
Thanks! It was hard to find info on this!
I hear you! I was really frustrated that nobody made a video about it.
Thanks man, great video with a modern motherboard and well done explaining . This helped a lot lmao
Glad it helped!
Finally got around to throwing storage into my ASUS Hyper, this video helped me realize that i cant just throw 4 sticks in without having to move and kneecap my graphics card AND with finding the correct setting in my X570 Aorus Master for bifurcation (1x8 2x4). Got the 2 it should show to show, so planning to return the 4 m.2's and get 2 with double capacity. Hurts to leave empty slots, but im not putting the storage cart before the graphics card horse.
I hear ya. It sucks to leave the two slots empty but all in all the riser is awesome and the m.2 card that you’ll have in there are gonna rock. Also, your GPU will be fine, it’s more like an invisible scratch rather than a kneecap. I don’t notice any throttling at all.
You did a Great job No one has shown this fix Thanks !!!!!!
Thank you! Yea it’s been great for me. Really love the way it works and having it as a dedicated space for my games has been awesome!
Thanks for the video! Very helpful!
Glad it helped!
This was exactly what I was looking for ! Thanks a lot 🤘👍
No problem!
Thank you for the explanation ☺️
You’re welcome 😊
Wowww Fantastic, I was looking for exactly that kind of content. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world 👏👏👏👏🤙👊
Glad it helped!
You made this so easy thanks man.
Glad it helped!
Thanks, and yes, the best explanation on KZhead bro.
I appreciate that!
Thank you.This video is very helpful.
Glad it helped!
thanks for the video i just started doing this and now i can do it thanks for the help the internet forums was useless for me
Glad it helped! Yes getting all of the info took me a while but I’m glad this simplified things for you.
Look up videos on running the latest GPU's as 8x instead of 16x. Not much loss, really not much loss. So I may do this, great video
Glad that this helps! It’s been great for me and the two nvme drives are running solid ever since! Plus if I ever build a threadripper rig I’ll have everything I need to run all 4 slots so really it’s a win win.
You have great tastes in products!!! I have the exact same MoBo, Card, and drives. I Just ordered the 2TB Rocket Plus for my Boot drive. Gonna put my two 1TB Rockets in the card in Raid0 for a Games drive! Thanks for the Video!!! Can't wait for AM5, The more PCIe lanes is exactly what I wanted. I am going to skip the first Gen of AM5 though. Work out any Kinks plus I Wanna see what Intel brings in Too.
Dang we really DO have the same rigs! I love my set up and switching to AMD was the way to go for sure. As for the card I’ve had a few times when the MOBO doesn’t register it, and all of my games are on there. So sometimes I’ll go to play WoW and it says “install”. That’s when I know I need to turn everything off, open up the tower, pull the card, reseed it, then it works. It’s happened about 4 times since I installed it but over all its not that big of a deal. My games run so smooth and it’s also just an awesome item to flex.
Thanks mich. This was appreciated im going to look for one that just supports 2 as i dont want to lose 2 slots due to my GPU. Thanks for stating that
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the great info!
You bet!
im saving this big thanks!
Great video brother!
Thank you!
Not all heros wear capes. This is what youtube is for! thank you!
Glad it helped!
Fantastic video Thanks !
Glad it helped!
Thanks, that was helpful! 👍
Glad it helped!
Amazing! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Really nice explanation. You mention to only put 2 M.2 nvme drives, but I've seen people filling this type of expantion cards with 4 M.2 nvme's, is it because they where not Gen 3 or because they used the top Pcie slot on the Motherboard? I was planing on getting the expansion card and adding the M.2 nvme's as I need them, but if its not possible to populate the 4 slots... Again amazing video.
Correct, it’s because they’re using the top PCIE slot because they would be using all 16 lanes and each nvme takes 4 lanes to run, so 16/4=4. But if you place it in the second slot and bifurcate it, you’ll only get 2 nvme cards because you’ll be using 8 lanes in a 4x4 configuration.
@@Quaylin Thanks alot for the clarification. Do you have in mind another alternative in order to add extra storage space internally to the PC that has good performance? Maybe I will get a 4tb m.2 nvme and not get 2x 2tb ones. Thanks alot!
Great video!
Thank you!
That’s man you save me good and strong video 🤜🤛
Glad it helped!
Hey Quaylin! Thanks for the video!. I have an ASUS Hyper card with 4 2tb SSDs in my motherboard, and looking to add another card. However, it seems like there are only Threadripper platforms that support more than one bifrucated lane. Do you think this could come to "regular" consumer motherboards in the future?
I would like higher lanes to be affordable for us normal people but I get that that kinda thing is made for a particular industry.
really nice video thanks for sharing
Glad it helped!
This was excellent.
Thank you! Hope it helped!
thanks for the vid!
No prob!
i have the same exact motherboard,; great video, convinced me of getting it, this item; question though; I mostly use it to record and edit videos and store editing assets. What happens if I use all 4 slots of the Asus Hyper ? will windows it still recognize all m2 ssds properly?or any recommendation on how to go about making it work? Thanks for taking the time to read.
Thanks for that!
Glad it helped!
This was extremely thorough but concise. Thanks for the video. I'm glad I stumbled on this. I have an asus x570 tuf gaming wifi plus. I bought a samsung 980 pro during black friday sale, and so I have a total of three nvme ssds (2 are gen 4 and 1 is gen 3). Both nvme slots are currently filled. My understanding is that I need to 'free' up the bottom nvme slot (the one that is not closest to the cpu) so that I can use one of these m.2 riser cards. So, the one nvme slot near the cpu will be filled and then the other two nvmes will be put on this thing in the bottom pcie x 16 slot. My question is do the two nvme's have to be both gen 4? I'm trying to decide the best configuration with two gen 4 nvmes and 1 gen 3 nvme. The nvmes are samsung 970 evo, 980 pro, and sabrent rocket 4.0. Was going to make the 980 pro my boot drive. I guess I'm not wanting to limit any performance from the 980 pro and didn't know if it made most sense to put that in the nvme slot by the cpu. Hope this all makes sense. Thanks again!
Glad this helped! They don’t have to be gen 4 but for me I’m a stickler on having drives be the exact same if they’re going in as RAID 0. But if not, no problem, they can be gen 3 and that’s fine. Also, check the x570 tuf and make sure you can bifurcate on the second PCIE slot. My step son has the same MOBO and I believe that one is one of the few x570s that’s doesn’t do it. Can’t remember though.
Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu so much. I ran into this exact issue and you explained it very well. I will be doing exactly this and have 4 NVME drives. My only question is, can we get 6 NVME drives working and a GPU?
As long as your motherboard has the lanes then you can get it working! Always check out then lane capacity of the motherboard and which CPU works best
On the z690 chipset with an i9-12900k you can install the gen 5 version of this card (in the bottom PCI-E slot) with 2 x m.2 and another m.2 on m.2 slot 1 on the motherboard and still run your graphics card in x16 mode.
That’s awesome!
youre amazing thank you so much... subbed :)
I’m glad it helped!
thank you !!!!
It wasn't too hard to learn but I did make the mistake of not understanding how many lanes I needed available to run four m.2's on the board. Upgrading to a threadrppier 128 lanes, going to put two beautiful 7900 XTX and two ASUS hyper X with 4 m.2 each.
Would love to have a threadripper!
Excellent video and extremely useful for people with this add-in card. I'm wondering, did you read the included Quick Start Guide? I have this card and on page 5, point 6 of the included Quick Start Guide (Dec 2019 edition!!) it clearly states what to do in the BIOS for both Intel and AMD motherboards - EXACTLY what you did here in your video at 07:12 :- "6. ...For AMD motherboards, go to ADVANCED > Onboard Devices Configuration, then set the PCIe slot(s) that you have installed the Hyper M.2 x16 card(s) to to [PCIe RAID Mode]" Thus, no need for internet searching, though there are a few excellent in depth setup and reviews of this exact card from well before your video was released. However, always good to have more! As for m.2 drives in general, folk should be aware that when using one of these fast m.2 drives as a Windows boot drive, the most crucial parameter is not the headline/marketing sequential read/write speeds, but the small '4K' read/writes since the vast majority of the very many files loaded during boot time are these small files (same applies to many programs/apps). RAID won't improve this (and can degrade it). Unfortunately, while headline sequential speeds have increased from HDD to SATA SSD to M.2/PCIe SSD, the '4K' read/write speeds have remained pathetically slow. Google search "m.2 benchmarks" and you'll see that, for OS boot benchmarks, M.2 drives show little/no improvement over cheaper SATA SSD's. Where M.2 drives are useful is in being able to make use of those 'marketing' sequential read/write's i.e. they are excellent for transferring large files typically, video. But(!!), there is another HUGE potential 'gotcha' even here - you NEED to ensure the write speed of the destination drive is also fast! Transferring from the fastest M.2 SSD to an HDD will result in a transfer speed no faster than the write speed of that HDD...!!!
Great info! I did the research before purchasing the card so I didn’t have the manual (or even look it up to read it on the internet) so that why I did my research. But great information that you’ve provided! I use mine to hold all of my games that I play. Love this thing!
@@Quaylin Aaah...I see, that makes perfect sense. For myself, I knew the card was compatible beforehand and there were a couple of YT videos I managed to find that covered the install and benchmark sides (there's not many that did this, so yours is very welcome) - Nailed or Failed Reviews, and BuildOrBuy. As you said, it's a fantastic affordable card to give you more m.2 storage options. It is wee bit of a shame that the vast majority of standard motherboards don't have enough PCIe lanes to allow you to use all 4 SSD's and at gen 4 speeds. I have a Threadripper TRX40 board so am fortunate there's plenty lanes (though AMD have now made this a single CPU generation chipset, so I'm a wee bit mad at them - only Zen2 39xx CPU's, no Zen3/3D upgrades options. Badly need Intel HEDT competition). As an SSD head's-up, I just noticed that the Sabrent Rocket 4 PLUS m.2 Gen4 SSD's have just had a firmware update that DOUBLES those 4K / QD1 speeds to take them to the top of the leaderboard, with 1TB, 2TB and 4TB drive sizes (the 1 and 2TB versions very competitively priced). This will make a nice Boot drive. One final thing folk should also bear in mind is that for almost all m.2 SSD's, those headline sequential write speeds have a significant well-known Achilles heel - the speeds will slow very significantly once the 'write cache' fills up. As always, Google is your friend here to inform you more.
Good video but you should probably put the GPU in the second x16 slot. It will work like normal that way and still allow you to have 4 drives in the hyper card. The shown config limits you to 2 drives on the Hyper card.
Not with an X570. You still don’t have the lanes to support having four m.2 and powering the gpu at optimal levels. The pcie x16 will naturally split its lanes and give the second slot x8. So in this case, you’re still needing to bifurcate the first pcie slot into x4 and x4 so that only two nvme slots can work. Nothing changes, you just switched the spots of the gpu and riser. If you want this to work with all four nvme slots running, look into a HEDT set up. Those PCs have two pcie lanes that both have x16 lanes allocated to them.
Nice Video man!! Can i use the 2 M.2 slots on the Motherboard without loosing any performance?
Glad it helped! What performance are you referring to? If it’s GPU performance I mentioned in the video that you’ll lose around 1% since you’re lowering the lanes from x16 to x8 on your GPU
@@Quaylin I meant if i dont use the pcie slot beneath the graphicscard. There are 2 m.2 slots for m2 ssds unter the chipset cooler.
@@Texxler Sorry, misread. You won’t lose any performance because there are lanes dedicated to those slots, so you’ll retain your x16 to your GPU
@@Quaylin nice!! Thank you!!!!
Thanks, I Have the Asus TUF X570 which i think has the right setting in BIOS, honestly, I'm spoiled by the speed of NVME and what to only have them in my system (currently have 1tb and 4tb )
I don't think the TUF X570 has the option for Bifurcation but I could be completely wrong.
No hablo bien inglés pero te entendí y la verdad que jamás pensé encontrar la solución rápido y fácil. Gracias
Gracias por verlo! Espero que todo está bien!
using x570. Was hoping you would cover the greyed out Raid 5. I passed that part with storage spaces, but allocating file size is a bit confusing. . . it auto populates 3.63 TB (using 4 x 1tb) . Yes, I’m throttling x5700 xt, but I’d prefer to have the 4 channel storage at this point.
Im not great with working with anything other than RAID 0 and RAID 1. Not sure I can help you on this one. Remember, not a complete computer guru. Sorry bro.
hi there, I just ordered one of these and its arriving today. Asus Rog Strix X570-F gaming board. I dont wanna do RAID either. I looked at the compatibility chart on ASUS website but its confusing and seems to suggest it will only see 2 NvMe drives in slot 2 under my Gfx card. Like you, I want storage not raid, I have a bunch of different size NvMe drives I want to install., ( 2x 4Tb and 2x 1Tb) ..do you think or know if they will all be accessible? Will I get 4 separate drives, or will it add them all together into one big 10Tb drive?? (my mainboard BIOS bifurcation state is at AUTO. the only other choice is RAID and I really dont want that :) Thanks for any info you can give :)
I was wondering what the Asus Hyper expansion card was use for... Hmmm now that I got the Expansion card that came with my Asus Rog Maximus Z690 Formula, I can now install a M.2 Gen 5 NVME SSD once they come out next year. I just hope having the expansion card in the second slot (PCI Express) doesn't take away the performance of my RTX 3080. My only question for you is do I have to install two M.2 NVME on the Hyper Expansion card? Why can't I just use one M.2 Gen 5 NVME in the Expansion card and go from there? Will that work?
First off, if you install a gen 5 nvme in the riser (when they come out) it’ll down grade it to gen 4 because it doesn’t support gen 5. Also, make sure that your motherboard supports bifurcation if you want more than 1 in there. So no, you don’t have to add more than one but 2 is better than 1 in this case. If your motherboard supports bifurcation, then slap 2 nvme drives in there. If you don’t, your wasting those extra 4 lanes
@@Quaylin yeah, I thought the new Asus Rog Z690 Maximus formula expansion card supported PCIE Gen 5? I guess I was wrong lol. I appreciate the advice and that you replied back to answer 👍🏻
Is using this flat out better than using it in the motherboard? or is it only wortth it if you have a super high end m.2? I only have a firecude m.2 so not sure where to put it, To be honest i never knew about this until i ordered a motherboard and it came with one lol It threw me off and just raised so many questions on what to do with it
It was for me because I needed extra slots. I don’t use it anymore because I upgraded my mobo to one that has x4 slots.
thanks homie
No problem!
Make sure you look at your manual. My asus 690e Wi-Fi pushes 16 to all three slots and recommends 4.0x4 on the bottom
Dang that’s a beast of a MOBO!
i wonder if you can boot from any of those 2 M.2 ssds that got into the hypercard, i know they are visible, but the BIOS sees them as viable boot options when starting the PC?
I haven’t tried that but I can see that ad a possibility.
Just found your channel, Can I ask the following as I am struggling to find the answers in the marketing blurb? 1- on the ASUS Hyper card, does each NVME show up as a separate drive in Windows Explorer? Or does any drives on the board show up as one single drive? And 2- does the board use 4pcie lanes in total, or does it try to use 4 per drive, therefore using bandwidth that could/should be used by my flu in the x16 slot at the top? &1 things i follow 1have only 1 pice micron 2400 nvme m.2 card ,it support & detect only 1st slot ,but when i open & put on 2nd slot it not detected in my windows but hyper card led work please help me... i cant understand that its my nvme support issue or card issue I’m very confused 🤔
Hi there. Watch my video again all the way though because I answer all of these questions in it.
Could you please share the card comes with standoff in which size? I got one but it came with no standoff and I am looking for alternative. Thank you so much in advance!
Not sure what you're meaning by the "standoff".
Nice video! Anyway does this nvme card compatible with asrock b550 steel legend motherboard?
It should be compatible but check to see if the b550 supports bifurcation.
@@Quaylin i see thank you for the reply! Anyway, if i use my pcie x16 lane for this aic, pcie x4 for my gpu, and pcie x1 for wifi card, does that pcie x1 reduce other pcie (like the aic & gpu) lane by x1?
@@kelvinthenedy no it shouldn’t because you’re not pulling lanes from any other source.
great vid 😜👍😂
Thank you! Hope it helped!
This is useful with TR and X299 system.
That’s the threadripper system right? Would be awesome to have one of those for my editing projects. I imagine the render time is lighting fast.
Nice video, I've been super confused trying to find out if this card will work for me or not and this helped. It would be great to get an updated video for Zen 4 with PCIe gen 5. If you get a purely gen 5 mobo will you be able to run all 4 drives in raid at full speed?
I would like to review that but I don’t have access to the new upcoming stuff. Plus if I were to make a new video it would be on a completely different channel. This video was when I was trying to branch out and it back fired on me hard, yet this video has done pretty good. But hopefully in the future I’ll be able to do more regarding this. I would imagine that the lane system would have stayed the same with the new CPUs though (like the 7000 series AMD) but just beefier. They’re gonna want their massive lane system to stay with the threadripper series. Man I would love to have one of those, but the cost it a bit much.
So if you fill all the slots on the MB it could effect the gpus performance? I have gpu in the top slot, a msi m.2 expander in the second slot and plan to use this in the third slot. My MB is a msi x570 ace max Cpu ryzen 9 3900x Gpu rtx 3060ti
Not exactly because certain lanes are going to different places. Your first slot is directly to the CPU. Other slots on the mobo have to go through the chipset first (which can bottleneck things). Really depends on your Mobo.
Hello. I'm thinking of buying a new motherboard. My preference will be one of the Asus or MSI rear motherboards with x570 chipset. However, I have a few questions that I can't find the answer here. 1- I plan to use Asus hyper card for 4 pieces of m.2 nvme configuration. Which motherboards allow partitioning the PCIe slot as x4+x4+x4+x4. (Of course, on the Asus and MSI side.) ( The last parts I used were x299 e gaming ii and 7940x. However, since this motherboard does not allow configuration related to PCIE slots, I could not solve this problem. ) I have another MSI motherboard (B550 Unify) and it unfortunately provides this configuration as x8 + x4 + x4. 2- Is there a processor factor in providing this partitioning we mentioned, or is it a situation related only to the chipset version. For some reason, the configuration is x4+x4+x4+x4 on the Ryzen 5 2600 processor and B550 Gaming Carbon Wifi motherboard at my workplace! 3- Finally, when we provide this configuration, what will be the result of the configuration when we plug the graphics card into the first slot and the hyper card into the second slot. I will be waiting for your answer. Thank you in advance for your interest.
By the way; I am planning to buy an AMD 5800x3D processor with a Rog x570 Hero motherboard. At least this will be my first choice.
You could use four m.2 sticks in an x570 but you would have to have it in the first pcie slot. If you have an integrated gpu in the cpu then you'll be set to go, however, not sure what you'll be working on that wouldn't need a dedicated gpu in your rig. If you want the best of both worlds, go with a threadripper set up. You'll get two x16 slots. One for your gpu and one for your m.2 card that will be able to support four m.2 sticks. Just costs a lot more.
This video is helping inform my decision to buy one of these cards. I currently have an RTX3070 in slot 1., and a single M2 in an icybox adapter in slot 2 ( and a single M.2 icybox card in slot 3)., my Mobo is the x570-F gaming so essentially the same as your example. If I understood you correctly ( and I may not have) if I want to run all 4 available M.2 drives in this card, I would need to move my GFX card to slot 3 at the bottom and NOT slot 2???? My motherboard manual states that when 1 and 2 are occupied they both become x8 slots, so I THINK I would need to leave slot 2 totally empty to have all x16 lanes going to the expansion card for complete functionality of 4 installed M.2 drives??? Otherwise, I could installed it into PCIEX_2 x8 and only install 2 x M.2 drives but leave my RTX3070 where it is in Slot 1 running at x8.... Could you please clear this up for me? Many thanks and much appreciated
ive just answered this. X570-F Gaming will only support 2 drives in PcieX_2 (Gfx card in PcieX_1) I installed three to the card, and left bios at AUTO and it only saw the first slot. Changed Bios to RAID mode, and it saw the first two slots ( Crucial P3Plus 4.0 and Crucial P3, 3.0.) Luckily the contents were intact and I didnt need to format or anything. Its a shame I cant use the other two slots, but maybe with a future upgrade it will be possible. GFX is running at X8 instead of X16 and I see no discernible difference at all. Good to know that you can populate it with drives which already contain data and you wont lose it.
Sorry for the late response. Yea I didn't test putting the gpu in the third slot because I didn't want to throttle my gpu performance that much. Interesting find that you discovered though!
I'm on a Asus x570 tuf gaming and it only shows the PCIEX16_1 Bandwidth in the bios, will this work if I put the GPU in the second slot and the hyper SSD card in the first (also just using 2 ssds in the card)
That’s interesting. My step son has a x570 TUF as well. Now I want to go into his bios and check that out. You could give it a try and see what happens? I’m gonna check his bios today and see what I see and get back to you. Really interesting that you don’t see a PCIEX16_2
Will this work with am4? I have the b550 auros pro AC. Also, my second pcie slot supports x16 at 3.0. Could I still have 4 drives installed??
Check with the b550 in the bios to see if you can do bifurcation. Not sure if you can as I don’t have that MOBO.
great video! I have ASUS ROG STRIX B550-XE GAMING WiFi. Will it work for me as well or B550 has only 1 PCIe 4.0 slot? hopefully no. I want it for games especially
As long as the B550 can support bifurcation then it should. But I would just upgrade your mobo and CPU at this point. My new mobo has 4 m.2 slots on it so I don't even use this card anymore.
Using a Z690 formula w/ gen4 m.2. The hyper m.2 riser that came with it has a gen5 slot and one gen4 slot. I only have one gen4 drive. Can I use it in the bottom PCIE slot? Thanks!
Hey Theodore. I looked into this board (which I’m very unfamiliar with) but it looks like you have the following configuration ・ 2 x PCIe 5.0 x16 slots (x16, x8/x8) ・ 1 x PCIe 4.0 x16 slot (x4, x4/x4 via ROG Hyper M.2 card) So it looks like if you only have 1 nvme drive and you want to put it on the bottom PCIE slot, you should be able to do that because you’ll only use x4 lanes (which that PCIE supplies). Note though, it’ll be running through the chipset and not directly to the cpu because the bottom PCIE slot lane doesn’t connect directly to the cpu, which means your speed will be throttled a bit (but I don’t think it’ll be that bad to be honest).
Thank you!
I literally installed this today and I had to put it in my video card's slot, which seems kind of nuts. It should go in the secondary 16x PCIe slot. I got this in prep for a new computer though. Hopefully the AM5 Ryzen boards can handle this.
Yea it’s the lanes problem If you installed x4 m.2 drives. This is really made for threadripper rigs that have way more lanes. I would remove two of the m.2 cards and place it in the second x16 slot. That’s what I did with mine.
Quaylin, how LONG is the card, from one end to the other (trying to see if it would fit in my case)
Just shy of 11 inches by about 2cm
Hi, if i have a MSI X570 with two pci-e x16 i can use 4 ssds with this or not in the second slot on my mb?
Please watch the video again as it’s covered in there. X570 boards won’t have 16 lanes going to both slots
thank you
Glad it helped! This thing has been great so far! Hope yours does the same!
@@Quaylin haven't purchased mine yet but planing on buying one soon. Thanks for the video. It really helps
Bro he looks like he hasn't showered in 5 days, had 3 hours of sleep, drank 18 beers, and had 2 really bad break ups.
Lol! Guess doing research on this for 2 days will make you look like this.
@@Quaylin true
Ok so I only have 1 extra SSD in slot #1 of my Hyper card, so technically I don't need to enable raid mode just yet or break up the lanes into 4x4, until I get a second SSD correct? It seems my SSD inside the Hyper card is working properly & is showing up & I can transfer things to it with no problems.
Correct. Your MOBO will automatically separate the x16 lanes into x8 and x8. So now you have x8 lanes being allocated to your 1 nvme in the card. But it would benefit you to get another nvme because now you have 4 lanes that could be used.
@@Quaylin okay awesome definitely will do that eventually, I appreciate this video it helped me a lot setting everything up 👍
Just easier to use the onboard raid going thru chipset and so forth and keeping 16x for videocard.
I can see that, but when you’re a video editor and you need copious amount of storage because your clients are throwing you files in 4K, editing on an NVME is heaven sent and having more than what the onboard slots can provide, this is a great workout for a workstation. Plus as mentioned in the video, placing your GPU to the second slot and only allocating 8 lanes loses minimal performance. Honestly, I don’t notice any drop in performance and I’m constantly using my rig for work and gaming.
@@Quaylin Yes I agree to that but if you are honestly editing and need copius amounts of data and so forth you should not be on x570 at all. As with 570 you are limited to how many nvmes you can do. with on board you will pushing alot regardles of io and so forth. With 2 sn850 i get almost 14,000
I think an x570 is a great and AFFORDABLE mobo to use for editing. Sure, I would love to go with a threadripper but I don't have that kind of cash to make a rig the way I want to. This works and works well. Running a 3900x and it renders at great speeds and keeps up with my work load. Also, correction on my reply, I only edit from my on board NVME, this riser holds all of my games that I play and stream
Hi! I bought WRX80, with WD Black SB850 2 TB for a System and v-nand ssd 860 pro 4TB for Data. Now, i saw that i can put the 4 more NVMes for in Raid...and now here is my question... ( Pc is for Video Editing and for 3D Rendering, it has 2 x A6000 RTX 48 GB and AMD Pro 3995WX cpu) Where should i put the System NVMe ? Direct on the Motherboard as a Single Black WD SN850, or Should i go into the Raid mode Hyper m2. gen 4 ??? thx
As a video editor myself I just wanna tell you first off how jealous I am that you’re working with a threadripper. Having said that, I’m not too informational on those systems but I would look into your motherboard and see how many lanes are allocated towards certain PCIE ports. I know for a fact that the first two get x16 each so here’s what I would do. Scrap one of the GPUs. Yes, it’s cool doing crossfire or SLI but in this day and age it’s just not worth the money to performance rate. You’re not getting much of an increase. Plus most of your rendering power (for video editing) is coming from your CPU and the mercury playback engine is just the little bit of help. But I would sell the second GPU, place the ASUS nvme m.2 card in the second slot, then start adding nvme cards until you have 4 of them because you my friend have the power to do so with that MOBO.
@@Quaylin i found that Asus "The ASUS WRX80 Pro WS Sage SE WIFI is using seven full-length PCIe 4.0 x16 slots" That mean i could use NVLink (Sli). and extra slot for Asus Hyper m.2., cause motherboard has 7 slots. I have an "old" machine with rtx quadro 8000 and AMD TR 3960x, and when i am Rendering in Keyshot CPU option, the whole Workstation is very loud. GPU rendering is fast, but its using just 4-5gb of vram instead of 48gb that Quadro has. I hope with this one it will be a little bit faster.... What do you think. Should i Hyper m2 use just for data ? In RAID Konfiguration ? And motherboard slot for Windows OS ?
Honestly I'm using to store my games that I play and stream. All of my editing work is done on my onboard Nvme. It's worth it to me.
So the riser card honestly is best to use with Threadripper cpu and motherboard due to the fact the asus mobo can support 2 riser cards running 4 m.2's in each for massive raid storage. If you don't wish to take away from the graphics card on a x570e then your best bet is to buy SSD to m.2 adapters and run into your SATA 6Gbps ports since you have 8 ports total. You can also buy PCIE 4.0 X1 cards that add up to I believe can support something crazy like 28 additional SATA ports per x1 lane. But please be aware that the bandwidth for x1 is around 2Gbps so if your trying to add storage this way for server hosting it's a huge negative unless you use a x16 set as a x8 which jumps up to 15.75Gbps bandwidth, which is more reasonable. It all comes down to what your end goal is. Personally I have a x16 expansion card running x8 with 10 additional SATA ports with m.2's and seems to all work fine. If I need more storage, God forbid but if I do, I'll make a NAS server to handle the extra storage needed. Don't push your PC to its limits or she will throw up the white flag real quick. Cheers guys
This is actually some REALLY good info. Yea the threadripper is definitely the rig to go for when using this, but the idea of using your esata ports and plugging in an adapter for nvme drives is awesome. I may remove the ASUS hyper in the future and go that route but as for now I need to keep it in there. Thanks for adding this awesome info!
Hello, I have x570 Formula with 5900x, can I use this 2 NVME ssd in MB separately and 2 NVME ssd on RAID 0 in second PCIE slot with Asus Hyper M.2 GEN4 without lose ssd perfomance?
You can. As far as performance I don’t think you need to worry about that. I ran it like that and everything was really fast. Just go for it.
The sad part with RAID in Disk Management is that it doesn't support TRIM, because it turns the "disks" into dynamic disks. If you want to run software RAID and have TRIM support you need to use Storage Spaces instead.
Any of you greybeards remember the RAM composite cards we had before SSDs? This reminds me a lot of those. For the younger crowd... it was a PCIe card with RAM slots and a battery. The battery provided a small charge to keep the RAM sticks from dumping the data after shutdown... thus providing a form of solid state memory, in a time when SSDs were beyond cost prohibitive for a PC.
I somewhat remember seeing those. Amazing what we can do with PCIE.
I want to put the Hyper M.2 card in the top slot. I don't want it choking off my Strix 3080TI. Will it work? The Bios looks like you can bifurcate the slots any way you want, 1 and 2. Thanks
I think it’ll work but are you doing it just for aesthetics? Which is totally cool, just wondering.
@@Quaylin Just for the thrill of the Crystaldiskmark Scores!!!! Not only that but I want to get rid of my spinning rust drive. To have a State of the Art system (for now) and a hard drive just don't cut it.
Why do u need to put it top slot?
Does this work with proart z790 mb? My 6900 xt is in the first slot. I have 2 nvme ssds. Can i use two nvme ssd with this card in the second slot having the 6900xt gpu in the first slot.thank you
If the z790 supports bifurcation then it should be fine. Everything you just described is in the video so I invite you to watch it again.
i want to get a m.2 card to replace my mechanical drives, but im not sure if having the card is gonna slow down my pc, i have ryzen 7 5600x and asus rog strix b550-f with msi gtx 1070
It won’t slow down your PC. Go for it.
That means if I have a GPU in the first slot, then the second slot will automatically run in x8 mode, which means I can only install two m.2 cards right ? If I remove the GPU, it will run in x16 mode, that means I can install four m.2 cards, am I right?
Correct. But if you install this in the second slot, you need to activate bifurcation so the x8 turns into x4/x4. That way you can run two m.2 sticks. But yes, if you remove the GPU and put it in the first slot you can run four m.2 sticks.