Downsizing a gaming PC without rebuying everything
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This is the Meshroom S from SSUPD. In this video, we're downsizing from a large prebuilt into this case, which is nearly 70% smaller. With its clean and minimal look, and ample airflow for great cooling, this case is definitely worth checking out.
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A perfect repurpose build walkthrough. No Streamer bloat to lengthen the time. You make me feel like doing the same thing with the old parts that I have from my old system that's still sitting in a box right now.
I would love to see that, and I too like his lack-of-nonsense content
Without temperature tests this video is crap.
I know there were a lot of people in the same boat as you and ended up with a pre-built in order to get a 30 series GPU and this is a great way to re-use a majority of the parts.
would've been nice if temps were shown before and after
I mean.... He literally says they were 3 or 4 degrees higher....
@@megadeth8592 lul
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Later in the video, I briefly discuss the thermal and noise differences. However, since I don't expect people to copy this build's specs exactly, but rather to downsize from a larger ATX case with the components they already have, these details will vary. Nonetheless, I cover them briefly to give an idea of what to expect in terms of slightly increased thermals and noise levels.
Just make some up, like LTT
Good idea for a video: downsizing with almost no new components. It's an intermediate step for people that are curious about small form factor (SFF) computers.
Exactly
This is how I caught the SFF bug. Picked up a Cerberus X to move my ATX rig down to 20ish liters and just had to by an SFX PSU. This was years ago and there are other and less expensive options available today as shown here. Good stuff!
That is absolutely brilliant. Super well designed case, and the parts you had in the prebuilt transitioned perfectly.
I build mini itx rigs for years now seeing a micro atx in a tiny case like this, makes me smile all day long. good job mate
It's full ATX
On another note: There is a lot of mods and guides available for the Meshi, which also apply to most of the Meshroom S, too, including the standoff mod (either MB or GPU), that allows for better cable management.
thats great to hear! is there anything you can link to specifically about the standoff mod?
@@silversavior4130 4 months and no response.... gg
you name is appropriate for that response haha@@painfromabove
I love it, as someone who went from building mid-atx builds to sff, the whole attraction to SFF was the lack of un-used space. This is exactly where my thought process was, a case that is litterally the bare bones chassis and covers to fit all the components in.
What a great idea, never seen a build like this in this case, I agree definitely using an itx motherboard, would love to see more temps and benchmarks in gaming!
never have i thought you could do an ATX motherboard in an itx case, good job on this one Devyn
You did a great job here, I tried this and did not enjoy it at all. The best ITX case, but I wouldn't do ATX in it again
Thanks so much, I appreciate it! Big fan of your channel
I did this same thing with my kids old gigantic pc. Had to buy a sff power supply as well, but found out his 3060 ti will fit at the top horizontal location using a long pcie riser with one mm to spare. makes plugging in the display port plugs much easier.
Devyn, you’re going to make it big. I don’t comment at all but you definitely deserve the praise.
Hey man, as a SFFPC enthusiast myself I just wanted to say that you've done an excellent job here. I just so happened to stumble across this video and the production quality, thoroughness and delivery were all super impressive. Keep up the great work!
Using the acronym "SFFPC" is so pretentious and gatekeepy
@@guinea_horn fuck acronyms, all my homies hate acronyms laughing out loud
@@guinea_hornhow is it gatekeeping? Sffpc is the correct term.
@@JK-xo9wm I think they mean it's gatekeepy in that using a *five* letter acronym where a word like "mini-PCs" or "Small PCs" could suffice creates unnecessary esotericism that can be interpreted as gate keeping. I don't know if I entirely agree in this case, but I get where he's coming from. It's certainly the case in video-games where people will create acronyms, portmanteus or abbreviations (things used to shorten dialogue) that are longer then the things they are standing in for, negating it's entire purpose and thus existing purely as a gatekeeping device.
this is a great video and something that Im definetly going to do.. and something I wish that the the NZXT Sff tower could do.. maybe with the V3 because the nxzt is bigger to my knowkledge... but if you really want to get into SFFP... optiumum tech is the King... hes production value.. the way he gets non conforming parts to fit.. or finds extremely creative ways to fit watter cooling into sub 10 L casses with 3090s and 4090s.. everything he does is fun to watch.. he even builds his own 3d printed parts to test thermals on certain cases..
Been loving your content man, keep it up!
This is phenomenal I have been watching a bunch of what you put out since I want to move into a small form factor for my "upgrade build' but this video is exactly what I need! I have the same mobo and AIO which is the main reason I didn't want to move cases and have to rebuy more parts!
I've been loving your videos. Keep up the good work.
this is the minimalist build I want thank you for sharing, Subscribed
great video. started pc journey with a prebuilt and now looking to downsize while trying to maximize component reuse. Thanks!!
In terms of "not being able to use PCIe slots": Have you tried using another riser cable? There are REALLY small ones. I bought one for my SAMA IM01 vertical mod, because the GPU was kinda blocking the lower PCIe 1x slot, rerouted the card to the lowest slot and that fixed the issue. OC, in the Meshi, you might have to become a bit creative, but if I can relocate my SFX-L PSU to the back and just use an SFX GPU, while managing to not break my fingers, you should be able to reposition a small WiFi card to a better place, too :)
Awesome stuff, man. Wish I saw this video before I built in my H1!
production value is amazing. can't believe you only have 28k subs!!! you deserve so many more!!!!
added to my watch later for when i move back to DC, my pc is HUGE , thanks for the info!
I'm looking to do the exact same thing to an older PC I have lying around, my only concern is the graphics card fitment. So I noticed in the video you were able to fit an MSI RTX 3080 into the front GPU position in the Meshroom S. On the MSI website it says that card has 323x140x52 dimensions. The Meshroom S manual indicated the maximum GPU you could fit into it would be 335x120x76. So you were able to fit in the MSI RTX 3080 width wise without any fitment issues? This would indicate the Meshroom S manual is a bit conservative.
I think it looks very nice. Good job. As much as I like a smaller case I like having room to work around in so I guess I'll just be sticking with my mATX cases. But I think yours looks terrific.
According to the ssupd website for the case you should be able to get a riser that can fold into the 90 degree bend to route it under the mb.
Dude I've been looking for something like this case! Great video and will def check it out!
Meshroom S is my favorite case. I just finished building mine with a custom watercooling loop 5800X3D and RTX 3080 founders edition along with and EK pump res combo and a 280mm radiator. It still amazes me all the options and stuff you can fit in this case! 😁
This is something I’ve been thinking about as I use my PC in the living room as well and couch game with controller. Currently have my an O11D Evo rig with a ton of stuff in it, so a lot will be compromised for downsizing. Thanks for sharing!
thank you for making a video thats straight to the point and in detail. hate it when people drag a video that can be a 5 mins to 30 mins and just talk nonsense. this is a great video
This video was perfect help for my situation, preciate you💯
This is literally what iwant to do. My case gets delivered on Tuesday I'm hype. Love your work bro.
The pace and detail of your narration is exceptional
thank you so much for this video! ive been trying to find something like this because i really want an itx build but dont have the funds to completely upgrade everything and I only have ATX parts! this is a clutch video and im definitely buying this case
The meshlicious is definitely built better than the meshroom. Though, If I had an MATX board I would have gotten the meshroom too. The panels are a bit thicker and don't bend that easily on the meshlicious. I'm happy I got one before they ran out.
Hey Devyn, I like the build and want to do this myself! I have a question though; what length is the Riser cable you used? Because I will also be building in it with an ATX mobo and am afraid my current riser (280mm) is not going to be long enough.
Really slick design, I really enjoy basic minimal computers, I currently have a matx in a SAMA IM01 case, which looks similar but larger. I was originally going to just use a ryzen 5700g without a dedicated graphics card, and make a custom small aluminum case for it, but got a good deal on a 3060 12gb. I'd really like a smaller computer still, this one is great, but having less stuff is a real asset to my existence, but it is nice to have smaller lighter possessions to reduce overall foot print but have the same utility capacity. I think we are still about 5-10 years away from affordable micro computers, but it's great to see things headed in that direction when considering what computers looked like 20 years ago.
The video i was looking for thanks so much :)
this case is exactly what i was looking for a few months ago but had no luck so ended up modding a g3 case to fit my needs
I’m literally in this same boat myself, wanting to downsize to save some desk space, I have a Montech case that’s almost identical to the 4000D in terms of size. I’m running a more “entry level” setup with a 12600K & a 3060.
ive got an h510 elite i upgraded to from my h510, cool looking case but i built it before i matured and started liking more minimal builds, love challenging pc builds! hopefully this will be a good option for me, thanks for the great vid bro!
Well done! Do you have any concerns about future builds considering the size trend in GPU's? or will you just get a whole new PC when the 50,60, etc series comes out?
Great Video. With this build are you able to fit two 3.5 hdd drives? Manufacturer's website has an image showing two installed. I'm trying to build a compact media server with parts I already have.
That's exactly what I needed. I guess I know what I will be getting myself for Christmas.
Cool. I was searching for the most compact mATX case lately, but this one might gonna be even better.
Great build! On the fence of ordering this case with exactly the same downsizing plan. One question: their website mentions that the total thickness of the radiator and fans is 53mm max. Is this indeed true? So for example I wouldn't be able to fit an Arctic Liquid Freezer in? In the video it looks pretty "spacious" so I was wondering. Thanks for the video!
i love you living room design with that single seat sofa!!!
Great video! I've been thinking about downsizing my PC for a while now.
Some gpus have trouble with the heatpipes working properly when they're mounted upright. It varies by model; from my understanding, it's just a physics thing. Something to look into if you start having temp issues. It can take several months to start happening, from what I've heard.
Some GPUs have that problem, but only when they are mounted upright other way around, where connectors are facing up (like in Silverstone Alta G1M, O11 EVO or new Thermaltake CTE cases)
This was the perfect video honestly, I've been wanting to do the same for about a year, great stuff man, its the first time I've seen an actual downsizing and not a "buy ITX"
Your videos are top of the line. I'm watching them like a hawk because I'm looking to replace my Corsair 540 builld (Nvidia 980ti, Intel 4790k). I definitely need to downsize it. Your last video on the 2000 D case with the 4080 looks like a great option. I also keep seeing stories where 4090 cards are melting. And it's really great that you do noise tests. Very few youtubers do this, and my 540 build makes a noticeable hum even at idle. I have a fanless mini pc that is nowhere near as powerful (Mele Quieter 2), but the silence is golden.
Check out optimum tech.. he is like the Godfather of SFF pcs.. he tes thermals.. sounds.. compatibility.. and he usually builds one in a new case every couple weeks for his channel.. sometimes he makes his own parts.. its just wild the video production he produces.. the 1 of a kind SFF s cases.. he teaches you that you can run a 4090 and a 13900ks in a ten litter case with a corsair min itx power supply.. this video is awesome and geared towards people who want to go smaller without the cost of doing so... Optimum tech shows you the absolute best you can do in the smallest form factor possible.I believe he is even asked to help SSF pc brands as a consultant
@@beefwantko7269 I've been watching Optimum Tech for a couple of years now. It's from his content that I found Devyn's videos because I was looking for SFF builds.
Nice job on the rebuild.
Just what I needed. I have a prebuilt with a 2070s and an i79700k. I still think the performance is fine but the size is huge. Going itx meant needing to get a itx motherboard which meant getting a new processor too since I’m finding it hard to find one for the i7 that’s reasonably price. I was honestly just gonna give up and start fresh but now I can get this with a power supply and be good
Off topic but I love your living room, that black wall with the panels looks slick.
Wow. Never heard of this case before. Looks super cool.
I may need to do this. I have a P400A and it's a great case for cooling but I move it around a lot and could use a smaller one. I doubt my DH15 will fit though.
Thank you! I have similar build with 3090 and needs to travel more now so it will be perfect.
This is sick my man..I really like it. I've considered buying one of those Corsair PREb's before. And I've also considered an ITX build myself. I've done neither lol...Been running my HP Omen for 5yrs now (8700/2080) as it's been perfect for 1440p/90fps. Just now it's beginning to show some age. Ive recently put a 4070 in it, and to my surprise its not a bottleneck beast. It's pretty well utilized. But it's got me thinking of new builds etc. Great vid.
that's really impressive managing to reduce the overall footprint without compromising too much. A few degrees and some fan noise never really bothered me. I'm really considering something like this for the future! Nice work!
Thanks for making this, I'm currently considering this exact project. Bought a prebuilt during the pandemic as the only way to get a RTX 3080 without paying a scalper (I tried for months with stock monitoring tools and channels) and it's an Alienware PC, it's not bad but not great. Case size is definitely too big with tons of wasted plastic and water cooling is not impressive but then again I haven't been impressed by AIO water cooling yet anyway. I'm building a new PC for my living room gaming and VR and I want to bring my Alienware PC up to my room but not in that huge ass bulky case. Your case suggestion looks ideal.
The motherboard is limiting it too if you got a higher end AMD cpu fyi
Yeah if it’s dell alienwear the motherboard is so ristricting you better off just moving the gpu and replacing everything else depending on your ram and cpu if it’s good enough yk? When I was in your same exact boat I only cared for a good gpu in the pre build bc I knew I’d eventually build my own
That is insane, great build xD
Marvellous piece of art. just wanted to know if there are any changes in temps overall?
Wouldn't mind this pc, small form factor without compromising the atx motherboard. Awesome video, very simple without very much fluff.
Im curious if this would work well with matx boards as well.
Dev.. great work my brother 👊🏿
I put a barrier between my GPU and AIO radiator to help keep a "hot" side and "cold" side. I tested it out with cardboard, but I'm going to use a sheet of plastic. It's flush with the side panel to help create separate compartments.
*Does the Meshroom D also allow for full size ATX motherboards?*
Do you have an open M.2 slot on your mobo? Cuz the WiFi card could get put in there if you needed it.
Wow, that case is compact. And so is the video!
Awesome build👍
very nice, but what are your GPU temps sitting at?
I’ve been wanting to downsize without having to buy a bunch of new components and man this is perfect! Thank you!
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Such a better looking case. I just made the same transition from a MASSIVE ATX case to a naked/sandwich ITX case (Xtia Xproto ATX) will an ATX Motherboard. Love it so, SO much more than I did my old one. Get to see all my components too.
I was thinking of downsizing my old pc to be used for the living room. The problem is buying this Meshroom S case, a SFX PSU and a PCIE cable isn't cheap here and I'm not sure if it's worth doing it for a i7-8700k/1070ti atx build. Having the power button in the back is also not convenient when the only place I could place the pc is in the TV cabinet. Does anyone know if the case has any room for 2.5" HDDs with the ATX build in it?
SSUPD knocked it out of the park with all three of their cases. I've never used a case easier to build in than my Meshlicious, even with top-end components.
I would probably have the fans for the radiator on the other side, pulling air through the mesh and pushing it through the radiator fins.
welcome to the ITX squad! Ive been using an Ncase M1 and Dan Case S4 for years and take them to all kinds of LAN events, gaming with friends, and take it more places than my laptop most of the time! I love having mITX over my old full sized towers.
could you do this with a stock cooler or something similar
Very cool case!
Those components look brand new. Nice to see a fellow clean freak!
I literally done this a day ago, but in me case I kept the ATX PSU and swap the ATX MOBO for a M-ITX MOBO.
*Hates to pay up for smaller PC with same performace.* This video Thanks man.
Dang man, I'm in the same boat with my 3080 prebuilt. I think I'll upgrade the GPU and try and watercool it and put it in a different case. Prebuilts are very convenient for a lot of people.
It looks so much better ! I hate big cases. This one is perfect !
I'm gonna build a pc soon so I went to learn by watching videos. I would say I'm not gonna build something like this, but still this is very interesting to watch and learn!
This is amazing, i could never do this without breaking something.
Thank you for this
i find i never utilize most of the features on a full atx board. even micro-atx is kind of more than you need. especially when a mini-itx comes with wifi, plenty of m.2 and pretty much everything else you need. of course they do tend to be more expensive and generally dont use the best chipsets. sometimes there is a feature you need thats not available on a mini itx due to the available chipsets, but thats pretty rare. its usually something like bifurcation or raid, which is sometimes useful in an sff or nas build, respectively. sometimes micro atx is a better trade off, and is the most common. there are a couple form factors that i wish were less rare. for example mini-dtx which is a bit wider (taller in this case) than itx with an extra pcie slot. my case can probably handle a flex atx, which is a trimmed micro with usually 2 ram slots instead of 4 (the possablity of a ram upgrade is nice on paper, but i find in practice you sometimes end up taking a memory performance hit with 4 modules). and unless using a sandwich case the extra slots are probibly going to be blocked by the gpu anyway.
Hey Devyn. I don't know if you will see this but, I have a question. Can you use this on its side? Kind of like a Formd T1? Or is there a case that would allow ATX motherboard support while being in the sideways orientation? Thanks. Great vid btw.
Hey man, amazing video, Im going traveling for the next 2 years and plan to do the same idea, can you please tell me what the total weight is for the pc after building in the new case so I can get a rough idea. Once again thank you for the great video.
this looks amazing
this guy deserve more subs his making great contents more subs to come sir and make more great viseos 😇
beautiful case
Could you do a review on the thermaltake tower 200?
Those longs cables will effect air flow, while very slight every bit helps with this form factor.
Will this fit in a backpack
I am doing exact the same thing. Cant stand those big pc cases anymore. Great video.
With your AIO hoses at the top of the radiator are you having issues with noise or temperatures yet? That configuration is about the worst you can have for a radiator. Just curious how that is holding up.
Interesting. Maybe a summer project. Always wanted to dabble in itx machines, but then my claustrophobia and anxiety kicks in 😆.
Did you end up switching out the riser cable? Which one did you choose if you did?