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He could have just said he was getting better. It's not uncommon to walk only short distances (like to the bathroom), while still spending most of your time in the wheel chair during recovery.
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if he did then the donos might start to decrease since he is no longer in a difficult health situation.
@@MeanPeePee better they decrease and he gets an out than have them figure out he was lying all along.
Exactly. If any of that story is true, which I highly doubt, then he should have told his fans. There's literally no reason not to do so other than wanting more money.
@@forgivezharion6989 wtf go touch grass
What really sucks about this situation is that often times people who need/use wheelchairs can actually stand and walk for short periods of time, it’s just that it’s extremely painful. It just fuels more disbelief and ableism towards other people in wheelchairs who actually need it
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You think maybe we should get someone else to type up this same exact comment 37 or 38 more times? I don't think I understand after reading the last 49 comments saying the same thing.
I didnt know this actually
@@KeepTheGates Yep. Awareness is important and just look at the comment below yours.
@Cros there's bringing awareness, and then there's virtue signaling. And your engaging in the latter.
Imagine following him from start, laughing along with him, seeing the bright in his heart despite the horrible and unfair disability life has given him. And then he walks away
*seinfeld theme plays*
Rip
He literally was like "Aight Imma head out"
@@SprayardxxxKrugR do you have any grapes?
@@SprayardxxxKrugR ptsd
If he hadn’t immediately tried covering it up and lying about falling, things might have worked out better for him, tbh. Like, he should have come clean about his recovery from the start of the drama, and apologized for misleading his audience about the nature of his temporary disability. If he had said “I’ve actually been recovering for a while and am less dependent on my wheelchair than I was. I should have mentioned it to you guys before, and I’m sorry to have misled you” (or something along those lines), I’m sure he would have gotten SO MUCH more respect from everyone watching. I believe he’s telling the truth about it in the interview he did with Wavy, but lying about it when it happened was a terrible move on his part, and I hope he’s learned from the backlash.
Right? I have a few friends who can walk a little, but have to use a wheelchair to get any good distance. Glad he got caught though, wouldn't want him to scam more people out of their sympathy money.
@@MadWatcher isn’t darkviper the guy that compared reacting to content to rape
@@lukecremecheese597 WHAT?!
Being honest I'm pretty sure they would have ripped them apart anyway.
I'm not defending this guy specifically, but I will say that there are plenty of people who can walk but require wheel chairs as mobility aids rather than their only way if getting around. So just the fact someone is a wheel chair user but is able to get up and walk away doesn't directly mean they don't need the wheel chair. Again though, I'm not defending this guy specifically, I'm just saying that this is a thing that happens and exists
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@@GriffinZambia don't worry, I wont
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Yeah. I sold wheel chairs and other medical equipment for a while and it’s more common for people to be partially dependent on a chair than totally connected at all times. It may not be like that everywhere but for my company it certainly was.
This !!! Exactly what I said. Not everyone is fully unable to walk. There are diseases and such that could make someone pass out and put them in danger. The person in this vid tho clearly was faking tho sine he didn’t state why he was in there
I think it's important to point out not everyone with a wheelchair is completely unable to walk. Some can walk but only short distances or walking is painful. That being said, if this was the case, he probably wouldn't have lied about it saying he "fell." That was very obviously not a fall.
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Yes, there are chronic and invisible illnesses that mean some people with said illness can walk but get tired and/or sore easier. Can also be days where said person can stand and walk around just fine, though it depends on the person, illness, conditions or severity.. He didn't fall you could see in his body language the way he faces to stand up, and that the chair doesn't move that much. You'd then hear a "thump" if he fell 😔 Wish people weren't like this -Edit, because I realised there's no audio (that's why there's no thump, lmao I had a dumb moment) However upon closer inspection, if you look at 3:09 in the fishtank you can see he walks off and doesn't fall over once, very steadily walked out of frame. My Apologies!
Damn right! Its possible but he lied so bad about it its a shame.
He mentions in the wavywebsurf interview he was still going through physical therapy at the time so him falling is 100% believable
Imagine having your whole career ruined just by standing up.
What goes up… musts come… up
@@AskYaMommyBoutMeBoi That sounds wrong lmao
@@AskYaMommyBoutMeBoi my weiner
It worked for Slim Shady.
@@notsure1969 lmfao
Clearly, he just mastered the art of spin and thus regained his ability to walk.
Pulled a Johnny Joestar on them
You PFP makes sense for this comment.
All he had to do was periodically explain to his viewers that he was undergoing physical therapy and he was slowly regaining use of his legs. Then he could have made getting out of his chair a big announcement.
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But then the money will go bye bye so nope he just preferred to keep scammin
Someone give this guy his B.A. in marketing, he's clearly earned it
he didnt owe anyone an explanation
the way he just naturally gets out of that wheelchair will never not be fucking hilarious to me. imagine being a longtime follower and fan of that guy and witnessing that moment live. What do you feel in that moment?
Shame and embarrassment at being duped, leading them to scream that "sometimes people in wheelchairs can walk sometimes! Ableist! Ableist!" In the comments of videos about it.
@@adam_stanheight Yeah but no one said that, ever. No one said that in the video that charlie watched, nor did he say it, nor are any comments saying it. The only people saying it are the people screeching and crying about how it's "albeist to think that people in wheelchairs cannot stand or walk". Literally no one else is saying that. You guys are seething and coping into the void for no reason.
@@menthols4625 laugh. 1 because i never tip. So i can care less. Plus dude got my respect back and owned it this was yrss ago lol
@@adam_stanheight People learn new words and run off with them
@@giovannijj3408 this is not me trying to be rude or anything, I swear. But you may want to know that the word usage would be “I could not care less” not “I can/could” because saying you COULD care less denotes that you do indeed care.
the man walked, just so tiktok disability fakers could run.
His disability was real. He was in the chair for 2 years. I believe he was using his disability for money and didn't want people to know he was capable of walking or did physical therapy. His biggest reget was not telling people about his condition. He overall just made his situations look really bad
There was a kid that was in my high school who had to use a wheelchair but could walk a small distance like up some stairs or to a classroom
the fact that when he realized he immediately closed the stream means he was lying just to get money. period.
bull crap cqllel
hes fake
He also tried to lie about it at first, dude tried to say he fell
I hate stuff like this, it perpetuates the idea that only people who have no function over their lower body ever need to use wheelchairs, and everyone else is faking. I often use a wheelchair, but I have full function over my legs, it's because I pass out when I stand up for too long. So many people think I fake because I can stand up, as long as I know I'm going to be walking a short distance and sit down again soon. It's so embarrassing to be harassed in public over it.
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When I messed up my Achilles tendon I had to use crutches for awhile and could walk occasionally on it for a limited time. A girl in school made me out to be a liar because of that and said I was faking. I called her out in class and blessed her out and she stfu after crying about me hurting her. Like sorry not sorry you made me out to be something I wasn't.
@@donermonster2426 naa he was lying he was always able to walk
Totally. I sometimes use a walker even though I wan walk fine--it's for a vision issue where my eyes sometimes read right as being straight ahead. I've walked into the street before because of that so the walker is there so I can literally slam on the breaks. And whenever someone who knows I use one sees me without it I'm always worried that they'll accuse me of faking it (though realistically if they tried I could just explain it to them but you know how people are)
@@donermonster2426 He was walking perfectly fine by the time he got caught on twitch. I don't doubt he was in a car accident and wasn't able to walk for about a year or so, but by the time he got caught on Twitch he was walking perfectly fine. He withheld information to continue to milk donations off gullible idiots with their parents credit cards.
just a reminder that just bc someone is in a wheelchair doesnt mean they cant walk or stand! plenty of people use a wheelchair bc it hurts to stand, can only stand for a limited time, or their walking is "messed up" and need assistance. and in this case, can also be slowly recovering from an accident but still needing an aid bc the legs have not been fully recovered yet.
You can also have temporary paralysis. It happened to hornswoggle
I always feel so self-conscious simply crossing my legs when I’m in my wheelchair. I feel like people glare at me when I do that. Wheelchairs aren’t just for people who can’t walk!
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Okay but this guy said he COULD NOT WALK.
He faked it though for money lol??
This is like when Joe from Family Guy stood up
I love how Charlie faked surprise at the situation and pretending he didnt cure a crippled man with his divine powers.🙏
I'm sure he was legitimately in the wheel chair for years as there'd be no reason to fake it prior to streaming. But he found out that people would donate to him because of the chair and wanted to make some money while only technically lying by omission. He knew what he was doing.
Eh... idk about that. Look up "munchausen's by internet".
He still needed the chair tho he just lied for no reason
Literally not true
@@hitthegoat how would you know
Weird take
Why didn't he just say he has a disability that doesn't make him paralysed, but he's in a lot of pain and needs the chair usually bc it's to painful to walk. But that one time he chose to walk to the bathroom. It would've been way more believable, if you're gonna lie at least be good at ir
Kinda weird for me to say this, but people dont get away with lies, in the short term yes but in the long term lying is never a good option
Because he could get more donations
He probably didn't plan for a scenario like that to play out, where he accidentally stood up on stream, odds are he assumed he would never make such a stupid mistake. And most likely 98% of the time he was hyper aware that he must stay glued to his chair. But after streaming every day with all the repetition, he finally slipped up and without even thinking about it stood up and walked away. Then at that moment he was panicking and couldn't think up a good lie on the spot, he had to think of something right then and there while his chat was freaking out and he couldn't come up with something fast enough. The "oh yeah I'm not completely paralyzed, it just really hurts, but I can stand if I really need to!", which goes against everything his chat believed because they thought he was paralyzed from the waist down, not just in a lot of pain and capable of walking. Hindsight is 20/20.
It was a lie of omission. He never explicitly said he was completely reliant on the wheelchair but at the same time would stream while visibly sitting in a wheelchair. I honestly don’t know what to think since on one hand he should’ve made some mention that he was likely to recover from being wheelchair bound but on the other hand I can see why he didn’t mention it since internet strangers are not entitled to your medical history.
@Clu Rosencrans Yes he did lie. He said he fell out of his chair when you see him walking away fine in the reflection. That whole cover up story was bull crap.
Man was losing so bad, he had to get up and take a walk to the pisser
I love how many comments are sharing that just because you use a wheelchair, it doesn't mean that your legs are completely nonfunctional. Sharing this kind of information keeps our friends with mobility aids safer.
I'm surprised we're still talking about this guy after nearly a decade passed
i’m very upset at the revelation of 2013 being almost a decade ago
I remembered watching this in Twitch fail compilation couple years ago, can't say I care that much about the wheelchair guy but the excuse he gave honestly not good at all
@Kavetion good for you
The internet never forgets
I think it's a good thing to talk about so that history doesn't repeat itself, ya know?
Doubling down was the stupidest thing he could've done. Could've just said "we had a whole thing planned and didn't want to reveal it", not take the 3rd grade approach if blaming the dog
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It's the internet troglodytes back then wouldn't have believed him no matter what he said
@@uiu820 yeah that's probably true. But then later Internet historians would've been less hard on him maybe 🤷♂️
@@TikkiNikki Tru
Clearly the dog spilled water in the wires and then he got electrocuted, so his nerves got stiff and he just naturally stood up... and then went to the bathroom to take advantage of the circumstances.
This story is so old but somehow Charlie makes this new and interesting again. Love your content Charlie
Man got up like Grandpa Joe when he found out he was going to the chocolate factory
SunnyV2: “Are you stalking me without being subscribed AGAIN?” Charlie: yes
I'm assuming he's not the only streamer to fake a disability for views.
He’s most definitely not. I can bet you there are a bunch of smaller streamers trying to fake things like tics and other disabilities to try and gain followers out of pity. Especially with TikTok’s influence of kids who did that exact thing to begin with
3:24 anyone else notice the "spliff" materials on his desk? xD Dude was probably stoned which explains him forgetting to not get up
There's a piece of this story that all the comments are missing, or only addressing half of the controversy. While it is true that there are disabled people who do not need a wheelchair at all times, and may need it for assistance for certain tasks or to make mobility easier, the issue is that he blatantly hid his recovery process for monetary gain. Money was pouring in through donations and subscriptions, and it was the crux of the growth of his channel. His girlfriend was in on the scheme as well. Why lie about falling? Why did the girlfriend make up a blatantly fabricated story to distract from the "miraculous" walking? The issue is not that he forgot to update his viewers. It's the intent behind it. Lying by omission is still lying. And using this facade for monetary gain is immoral.
Exactly. And when you say "all of the comments" you're hardly exaggerating, almost every comment is something along the lines of "some people in wheelchairs can walk". Who are these people who think "It's been said in 600 other comments but let ME shed light on the situation by saying the same thing"
How would she notice when there's stream delay Also I think there should be more consideration into whether or not he was actually lying by omission or if he was just exercising his right to maintain privacy, there are many things in life that we have no obligation to tell other people about no matter how curious they are about it
@@ronaldolawyer3865 He was lying by omission. He realized he would make more money if he didnt tell people he was recovering, so he didnt.
@@PrincessMeganLeigh It doesn't need stating hundreds of times IN THE SAME COMMENT SECTION. Nobody is missing 50 comments saying the same thing then understanding the message when they read it for the 51st time.
i don’t think people are trying to defend him, more trying to ensure people don’t go around calling ambulatory wheelchair users “fakers”
I love how "not all wheelchairbound disabilites are a complete inability to walk," is both a true statement, and a very valid potential defense/explanation for both him and the people defending it. But nope. Had to go for the "well, what you saw isnt actually what you think you saw," bs. XP
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Damn right!
@@forgivezharion6989 L
Nobody was gunna believe him either way
i like to imagine then when he stood up and walked out of frame, he just paused for a sec like 😦🧍♂️
I remember seeing this shit years ago ... blew my mind that someone would fake some shit like that
He did own up to it afterwards, he said it was wrong to not keep his viewers updated on his medical condition. It was grimey to stay in the chair when he didn’t need it all the time anymore but it’s not as clean cut as people make it out to be. IMO, him trying to lie directly after the footage was the worst part. Just come clean immediately and maybe it wouldn’t of been as bad.
But he at that point did need the chair he was only able to walk and stand for about 10min a day
@@uiu820 that’s what I’m saying bud. It’s not clean cut. He did admit to being wrong in the case of this video. You should check out Sunny’s video in full, it really shows the story well and gets this guys side of the story from his own mouth.
Not once did he apologize for scamming his viewers. He said there were certain things, he wishes he could have done differently. That's not an apology to all the people he let down.
@@basedzoop8499my guy, that is, quite literally, the opposite of what you were saying
It's sad because apparently he wasn't lying the whole time, he just failed to update his community with news of his improvement. Why, tho??? People love a good recovery story! He would have been more popular than ever! And the fact that he tried to gaslight his community afterwards, too... I feel sorry for him, but it's understandable why things happened the way that they did. :(
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@YeaMan no
Imagine how big Nickocado Advocado would be if he recovered and lost 200lbs.
sorry about your replies, man r.i.p.
To milk it
I worked in pain management and abuse of disability is out of control. I constantly saw people with "disability " and I am using that very loosely, that were clearly able to work,. Workman's comp was the worst as we would have people pull in to parking lot, jump out of car just fine, the proceed to grab a neck brace, Kane or walker and all of the sudden become virtually immobile before walking through the door, went from obvious joking and laughing to extreme immovable pain....just disgusting. I would have to say more than half or our patients claiming disability were full of shit.
0:01 Sunny’s banner is on point tho damn
the fact that he was walking when using a wheelchair isnt the problem. lots of people who use wheelchairs aren't completely wheelchair bound. but its obvious he's faking it with how he tried to cover it up and lied abt it lol
My guy, he was in a wheelchair long before the video. Look at wavywebsurf's vid. Man interviewed him and let him explain his side. Not as obvious as it seems.
@@WelNep im not talking abt that, i'm talking about how when he got "discovered", he started lying and trying to claim this and that, knowingly misleading people into thinking it was a more permenant disability and then trying to cover that up. he was taking advantage of an injury for the clout of being "disabled" and he wasnt ready to let that go.
@@witheraway.6562 Iets be honest here no matter what he said or did no ody was gunna believe him before he got the ban since that shit happened like a day later
Yep we got the picture not everyone who uses a wheelchair is unable to walk u don’t have to write it down again after the other 250 people who have already explained it in this comment feed….
@@WelNep no the guy didnt lie I suppose, he just realized that if he didnt mention that he was recovering, he would make way more money : D. Imagine what would happen to Nicado Avacado's channel if he recovered and lost 200 lbs?
SunnyV2 really funding the whole twitch community by himself at this point
Damn that's crazy
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3:00 it gets me every time. Every fucking time. I'm in tears right now. He stands... And throws a twists that would make Patrick Swazye proud
This is always a crazy story to go back to
He literally could have just said he can stand for short periods of time or he has pain when he stands and that would make sense, but instead he went with the dog excuse
Gotta get the dog in yknow
3:06 I wish we could've seen a replay of the chat lmaoo
oh
2:37 - LOL! That Undertaker reference will be living in my head for a while
My mom was in an accident that shattered her spine, hip, feet, knees and ribs… She uses a wheelchair, but she can take a few steps with and without a walker… you don’t have to be 100% paralyzed to use assistance like that.
So glad Charlie decided to let this poor streamer walk again just by watching the guy, miracles really do happen
Well of course, he is Jesus after all
Imagine if he was actually honest about it. "Look what I've been working towards offstream with rehab/physio." Would've went down as one of the most wholesome moments on Twitch.
dont defend a guy like him...! why are you doing that?
@@donkarnage6986 Are you drunk?
It looks like those preachers on tv who be like screaming miracles to people like “In the name of Jesus Christ, I demand you to stand up”
I woulda loved to be in that twitch chat and see how crazy everyone went
I'm gonna offer some insight here, as a disabled individual, by first stating that I'm not really upset at what he did. As someone who has a physical disability that does sometimes let me walk without my assistance tools or do things differently on some days than others, I can understand the need to just tell people that you... just use a wheelchair. Not "I sometimes do", etc. It sounds crazy, but there is like this... stigma that people don't talk about when it comes to physical disabilities. People see someone in a wheelchair and don't think "Oh I wonder if they use it all the time". People see that person in a wheelchair and it's just accepted that that's how it should be. I felt so embarrassed with it at first, I would never tell people that I didn't need it all the time, otherwise I was scared people would just assume I was faking it or over-exaggerating my symptoms to garner sympathy, because sadly that IS reality and that DOES happen. My brother to this day believes I just exaggerate my symptoms because I appear "normal" and that I can sometimes get around fine. I'm not saying what he did was right, because he was advocating for disabled individuals in the streaming scene while not being honest and having an open dialogue with his community. But I am saying I can understand why he wouldn't.
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He was getting paid from playing into it though and then continued to lie about it rather than actually explaining himself.
Advocating? No
Don't defend anything he did. He was recoverd fully by the time he did streaming. Did no one pay attention to the video. Obviously he wasn't in pain anymore I've seen people that can slightly walk and it looks painful he clearly was not. He milked money out of sympathy and could have gone to someone who actually needed it.
@@empath9814 Not all wheelchair users are in debilitating pain every time they get up and walk around. Some would have no pain, they would just be too weak to move around all the time without a wheelchair. You assuming that him getting up and travelling a short distance must mean that he was fully recovered is actually fucking stupid.
My uncle was in car crash and was in wheelchair for 2 and half years. Even then he got healed, he still moved in wheelchair, because he get used to it and it was Hard to start walking again.
dynamic disabilities exist and sometimes the wrong people get called out but luckily this was someone who actually was faking
Everyone's gangsta until the quiet guy in the wheelchair stands up
I’m partially wheelchair bound due to chronic pain. Most days I walk around the house with a stick and use the chair for going outside, but I have found that in my scenario (which obviously isn’t everyone’s) that I have a hard time sitting up in a chair for a while except in my wheelchair due to the footrests. Most people assume if you’re in a chair you can’t walk, and are often surprised when I step out of it for a moment to get over a large step. He doesn’t deserve any hate, he just forgot to clarify his situation which he may have in a previous stream but it gets exhausting repeating yourself over and over about your physical disabilities and limitations
I get this view on the situation but if this was all true why tilt the camera down and lie and say he fell over? If he was being transparent about not being fully wheelchair bound why not make it a reveal about how much progress he's made like it doesn't make any sense to lie for no reason unless he's pretending to be fully paralysed
I've heard about this and know the beginning parts. But never knew about what happened afterward. So this is new for me.
0:35 Sunny's channel banner knows Charlie very well lmao
He could have easily played it off if he said something like "I've been doing physical therapy a couple times a week and have gotten to the point where I can walk short distances"
People would see that as him trying to get out of the situation and lying to say his ass he was gunna get hit by the mobbed for whatever he said
How long do you think he stood there just thinking, “whelp I just ended my career”
Title: The streamer who faked a disability Me: You’re gonna have to be a lot more specific.
The header is perfect of Sunny’s channel is perfect in this video lol
he came out later and said he was in car accident and needed the wheelchair for awhile. he was never paralyzed, he just started streaming since he was stuck in a wheelchair for however long he needed it.
He actually did need the chair he was just doing therapy to get better. He still did try to hide it though
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@@forgivezharion6989 No bitches?
3:06 that "oh my God" was perfectly timed 🤣🤣
That was the slowest most controlled fall I've ever seen
this reminds me of a funny story myself. I went to a zoo with my family and my mums friend + kids and one of them is autistic and will be wheeled around in a wheelchair just so he doesnt run around and hurt himself or something like that. he's perfectly able to walk. I was wheeling him around and he just randomly gets up and goes and runs to something, and there was this asian family in front of us and i just yell out "OH MY GOD ITS A MIRACLE, HE CAN STAND" and this poor family look so dumbfounded thinking this wheelchair bound kid just suddenly was able to walk and run again. Has to be one of the funniest things ive ever done
How many people are gonna fake disabilities? TikTok and Twitch: *Yes*
Lmao 💀
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If I recall correctly, he did address the lying about falling out of the wheelchair, I think he said he was slowly building back up to no longer needing the wheelchair and got scared about how him standing up would be percieved, so he panicked and lied.
I love how instead of Charlie making actual content about the scenario, he makes it a reaction video about it, great.
Me: *Breaks knees* Also me: “Streaming time, where my wheelchair at?”
I’m sure Zilian himself would admit the backlash far outweighed whatever short term benefits there were by faking a disability
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@YeaMan but you can’t spell page
@@ckmortanya Stop replying, you're enabling the bot. Just ignore it
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Well he did an interview with Wavy Web Surf if your interested, he makes a pretty good case of how its a big misunderstanding and alot of the facts that most people know are kind of wrong.
I have quite severe hEDS and might have to be in a wheelchair part time soon, and because of people like this im scared of doing so bc im scared that people will think im like this person on days i can walk
The fact he lied and said he fell then blamed the dog made it so much worse.
Sunny V2 is such a great channel to watch in the background while doing other things like drawing and stuff.
If they ever reinstated his account I can't begin to imagine the barrage of comments he'd get everytime he got up to do anything. Assuming anyone would be willing to watch him, that is.
You'd be surprised. Dentheads continue to suck him off, after he tweeted about the interview he did.
6:30 that footage is like 10 years old and it looks like it's been shot in the 70s.
I always wondered what the chat had looked like during that time.
Sunnyv2 videos are great and very informative. Glad you keep reacting to them.
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Is that his name?
@@dustinnukem5458 yeah sunnyv2 check him out
Usually I like SunnyV2 I'm just surprised that in this instance he didn't do his research. WavyWebSurf covered this way back but then he did a follow up on some new evidence of his innocence and then does an interview with the formerly disabled streamer and he makes a pretty good case for himself.
@@JBBrickman yea what critikal is reacting to isn’t the full story at all it’s kinda silly and a miss from sunny
the thing with wheelchair usage is that he may have been partially dependent for awhile, being able to walk short distances but still needing it for longer distances, but he should have just explained the situation. Lots of disabled ppl who depend on wheelchairs part time/during certain flair ups do get harrassed for seeming "fake" and I feel like this is a weird situation that could have been solved by him explaining from the beginning that his fulltime wheelchair usage wasn't permanent/he was working on recovering. Overall a shitty situation, wish he wouldn't have lied.
He drank to many monsters and had to piss so bad he wasnt thinking
He didn’t claim he fell out of the chair, he claimed he fell after walking around for a bit off camera.
Being in a wheelchair myself it's actually really sad how people can fake having a disability or over exaggerate it just to get attention / clout. This is why I have less faith in humanity
Omg smh, lose faith in humanity, and to be real it is VERY MUCH Likely that he did need a wheel chair for a certain amount of time, or he still used it, as it hurt to walk, or couldn’t do it for a long time. Now if he did fake it that’s fucked up, but shit like this is pretty common
@Clu Rosencrans the hate he got was not deserved but he should had clarified he was not fully wheelchair bound
@Clu Rosencrans I agree for the most part - except he’s a streamer. There’s a level of openness when it comes to physical injury that needs to be there, unless it’s specifically hidden from the camera. Obviously it would’ve been easy to say “Hey guys I’m in PT and able to walk a little bit,” but I don’t personally believe he was scamming or faking a disability, dude just didn’t think about it,
@Clu Rosencrans The dude got attention for being disabled and then forgot to tell his audience he is getting better? Nah he just blatantly lied to everyone and worsened the image of actualy disabled people.
@@hawgprint If its true then why lie about it. The dude clearly stood up straight as fuck and then pretended he fell? Then he pretends his dog made the screen fall after he fucked up. Come on...
why do people even do this, its so embarassing
They really like Nikocado Advocado.
He was just temporarily disabled not completely disabled which is what his viewers assumed
Everyone: I'm about to end your whole career Zilian: I'm about to end my whole career
Man, it's been so long that I forgot that this particular streamer existed.
He could’ve just said he’s a partial wheelchair user. Most wheelchair users can actually stand, just not for long.
I remember that guy the power of fame cured his legs, it was a miracle
Dont read my name
He never said he needed one to move though, that was just an assumption
Reminds me of that zenyatta emote where he just gets up out of no where
Whenever I’m bored I can always count on there being a new vid from Charlie to watch lol
Why do streamers think they can pull this shit and get away with it? You have a higher chance of getting caught online, then on the street.
Dont read my name
Really?
IM NOT DEFENDING THIS GUY AT ALL (i havent even watched the video yet) but please remember that NOT ALL WHEELCHAIR USERS ARE PARALYSED. Some have use of their legs and only use the chair sometimes. Some can walk short distances. Some only use them when their symptoms are bad. Please don't always assume that because someone is in a wheelchair = they cant use their legs at all.
Ok just Dont read my Name
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I get ur point. But after he said that it was his dogs fault that the cam tipped over i started questioning the rest of his story
@@luxter858 they said they didn’t watch the video; it’s just for clarification
@@eggchomp I know. Thats exactly why i said "I get ur point". And as he talked about him before watching the vid i presumed he already knew what happend
The moment he stood up was as big a plot twist as Wayne exposing that there never was a fridge
I like when the lass talking says 'omg' to that bloke getting up and then tries to make it about something else. Shows her up as being in on it, mind.
I wouldn’t say faked, maybe he “lied” by omission and there can still be invisible aspects to/stuff people want private about their body condition, but the demand of disability status to be open to public opinion rather than left to medical professionals can get pretty gross imo.
I mean some people can still walk in a wheelchair but it can be incredibly painful. My legs are in agony every step I take after leg day and makes me want to just stay in bed till they recover, I can only imagine actual injury.
yes and it still doesnt excuse him lying...
that’s gotta be the most uncomfortable gaming chair ever
He really walked away from his problems
I love this guy, man jus stands up lmao
Ok Just Dont read my Name!
Im uncomfortable with all of these able bodied people weighing in on how disabled people should use a wheelchair. We are not “wheelchair bound” as a lot of people have been commenting here,it is an extension of oneself. Plus, some wheelchair users are able to stand up and walk from time to time and still need a wheelchair. It’s really disappointing to see the guy react the way he did, he should of just said he was getting better or something
wheelchair bound = cringe wheelchair user = based
He’s the one who lied, so…..
how do you not question why he lied about falling out of his chair, like how does your brain just pretend that never happened
@@FaurenLaust he never said anything about that, why are all you putting words in his mouth?
@@anomalocarislover7254 Yes he did. It was in the video, the guy said it in his Twitch chat.
i wish we could've seen the chat when he stood up
Man relly said:i am gona head out
"Hi Sunny, I appreciate you fairly covering this story. For viewers: Ever since I spoke with Zilian / Itsblooish back in 2020 and saw the prior photos of him in a wheelchair I realized much of what had been said about him in the past was mostly unsubstantiated bullshit. In my view, Zilian's biggest mistake was not updating his stream regarding his physical therapy progress. He never created a fake disability, and as far as I know he never told anyone he wouldn't be able to walk again. Rather Zilian was actively participating in physical therapy to regain his mobility and needed the wheelchair in the interim. But with him always in the wheelchair on camera, some viewers naturally assumed he was permanently paralyzed and were stunned when he stood up on stream. The clip goes viral, and the "handicapped streamer fakes a disability" narrative becomes part of internet history. Zilian was banned for faking a disability, which is something he provably didn't do. That said, he made many mistakes, which he has admitted to. He should have been updating his stream on his physical therapy and mobility status so a misunderstanding like this could never occur. I agree with Sunny, Zilian has learned his lesson and in my view should be given the chance to simply EXIST on the internet. So shoutout to Sunny and shoutout to ItsBlooish/Zilian. Take care folks."- wavywebsurf
The way he handled the clip going viral seems to be the biggest pointer to this, just showing how it was mostly due to poor communication. Really interesting though.
@@ImpossibleOrange yeah if he just occasionally updated people on his therapy and stuff none of it would have happened