Has Michelin Created The Best All Season Tire? Rain, Sun, or Snow!
Can One Tire Really Work In Every Climate? Michelin CrossClimate2 Is Made For Any Weather
3-Peak Mountain Snowflake Tire That You Can Use Year Round - Sponsored By Michelin
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How is it possible for a tire to perform well in all four seasons? How does something that has the 3-Peak Mountain Snowflake, which is a certification of winter performance, also have wear characteristics that hold up to hot summer temperatures, all while stacking up against today’s best all-season tires?
First off, I think there’s some important backstory. I was looking for a tire for my Crosstrek that I could genuinely leave on four all four seasons. Why? Because I’m lazy. In my research, the best tire I could find was the Michelin CrossClimate+, an all-season tire certified for winter conditions. So, that’s what I bought. Well, as it turns out, Michelin had already been working on another version of the this tire, the CrossClimate 2, and they asked me if I’d be interested in trying it out early.
So overall - what’s the strategy? On one hand you can have a winter tire. It’s great in deep snow & ice compared to other tires, but not as great at dry or wet braking in higher temperatures, nor great for dry handling. On the other hand you can have a summer tire - excellent performance in dry and usually wet as well, great handling when the temperatures are nice, but you definitely don’t want to drive on these in snowy or icy conditions, or even really cold temperatures depending on the tire.
Very big picture, what we have here is a tire that uses a compound that’s quite similar to a winter compound, but it uses a tread pattern that’s more similar to a summer tread pattern, in that it has very few sipes and cuts, which puts the tire in a very unique position. The ability to be a certified 3-Peak Mountain Snowflake Tire, and thanks to the tread pattern, significantly less wear than a traditional winter tire when it’s driven on in summer months. Watch the video for all the details!
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“I was looking for a tyre that I could actually leave on for all 4 seasons. Why?” Money? Less hassle? “Because I’m lazy.” 10/10, Gotta respect that honesty.
lolz yeah
I scoured youtube tire review for that precise answer, because I am lazy to swap tires when winter comes as well
Some locations don't have very long winters if at all. Where I'm from, we have bad snow maybe once every three years. Thus I stopped buying winter tires because it's a waste of space and money. AW or AS tires with snowflake or M+S are perfect.
Have them on a Honda Odyssey, work great
Being who I am, living where winter is one week snow with ice/sleet for random weeks, I also buy and forget. Hoping the rotation to new tires comes in late fall to have max tire tread to make it through my winter. PS NO TIRE grips on ice, even 4x4 AWD slide into the ditch!
I'm a little bit disappointed in the lack of a whiteboard.
Soooo, more cowbell?
@ebulating I like how wrong you spelled Michelin even though it's in the title
Too dry . . . : )
I feel like I'm the only one who actually doesn't like the whiteboard videos.
Racist much?
We've had the Cross Climate 2 tires on our Honda Pilot for about two weeks. I instantly noticed a marked improvement in handling over the OEM tires, with less noise. I await to see how they handle this winter, and I hope they work as advertised, and as reported by Consumers Reports and other sources. If they improve winter traction, I may place a set on my Odyssey instead of buying a set of dedicated winter tires for the vehicle. UPDATE 12/1/22: We had a three day snowstorm here a week ago, and I made a point of driving the Pilot rather aggressively when it was safe to do so, and I must say, these tires performed very well. I can't complain at all! Now, this is an AWD SUV. I don't know how they would work on my Odyssey, but I would love to try. Unfortunately, I only have about 14,000 miles on those tires, so it isn't cost effective to replace them at this point. Will update with any further observations. Update 4/24: Almost 70K on the odometer, so roughly 40K on the tires. Still going strong with regular rotations, still providing plenty of grip. I’d buy them again. Absolutely!
@Insignificant Speck Of Dust Nokia winter tyres/Finnish winter friction tyres are a total must have! The CC2? seen them around here n there (I'm in Finland), and I do wonder how they get on..
let us know how it goes in ice n snow!
I would love to know how it handles on Pilot. I just put on old Blizzak for this coming winter. I need to purchase summer tire once spring hits. I've used Blizzaks for over 20yrs, so going Mich. brand would be interesting!
They would be good. I had them on my previous mazda3 mk3. I saw some 4x4 struggling while I was driving as if there was no snow. Just wish they would this on more sizes. I have an audi tt now, and wish they would do 20" wheels.
I read somewhere that this set pick up screw and nails easier on the road. Have you run into any incidents?
I have these tires on my Subaru Outback. I live on a mountain top in Colorado. It's a 6.5 mile drive to get down the mountain with 87 turns and 500 foot drop offs if you should miss a turn. While the road does get plowed regularly my driveway is about 150 feet long with a serious slope. The snow is often up to the front bumper. I made it all of last winter without using my tracked Honda snow blower even once. I was shocked. The performance is the best I had with any of my vehicles. Two thumbs up from me.
What about rotating these..? Is it okay to rotate tires only from the front to the back of the car instead of cross corners?
Michelin: "Aww yis, free advertising" EE: "These are GOOD YEAR round tires!" Michelin: "Noooooo!"
GOT EM!
As opposed to square 'Mythbuster' tires, perhaps? LOL.
Nothing free about it.
@@richardnavratil9661 how are they
@Richch 💵🤑🤤🤑💰 Navrátil Ba-bamm!!💥
“I want tires I can keep on year round. Why? Cuz I’m lazy” Me: go on...
yes...
It is recommended to rotate them from to back for even ware. Every 20 k
Winter where im from doesn't exactly mean you have snow. If i had a winter set id be changing my tires maybe every other day.... Or every 3rd or 4th day..... Might be every other week for a couple days, or 3-5 days for the whole winter season.
Where i live it gets to -30 on the regular. All seasons just dont cut it too soft in the summer and too hard in the winter.
Same. No fun having a whole different set of rims and tires laying around for half the year. Not an easy feat particularly for those living in a roommate or apartment situation.
I put these tires on my Mitsubishi Outlander a year ago. I live in Vancouver Canada, so we have lots of rain and occasional wet snow in the winter. These tires perform superbly in all of these conditions. They are also very quiet on the highway and offer exceptional handling in the summer. By far these are the best tires I ever owned.
My brother and his wife live in Portland Oregon so they too get a LOT of rain. We live in north central Washington state and get 5-7 feet of snow every winter up here in our very mountainous area. We Love the tires !
Great job Michelin, you successfully designed a tractor tire.
My thought exactly
I've been thinking about some o these, but im trying to be frugal. So I forgot about them, but he had to upload this damn video. Man I wish they made a more "Truck Version" of the tire. No sacrificing anything for road noise, load range d, and with a little more tread depth. It would be my dream tire.
@@zacharykendrick2957 Michelin Agilis Cross Climate
Have fun driving a tractor at highway speeds.
Ikr idiots
There is no white board in this video... Me: *my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined*
Yes! This is unacceptable beyond any reasoning and may never occur again, or we May have to rally to rebel!
I understood nothing because the lack of a whiteboard explanation and some formulars. Now I have to google whats a tire or tyre or what this video is about
That and the fact I was looking for a quad mountain peak double snowflake tire....
True. That graphic at 2:30 looks so cheap compared to an old fashioned, artisanal drawing made by hand on a white board.
GASP! We have a cross-reference to another youtuber, Houston, I repeat, cross-reference cameo!
I’ve had these on my Pathfinder for almost a year. They are wonderful, and quiet. My wife asked why our engine and roof racks sounded louder than usual and we realized it was because that was All we were hearing, the tire noise was incredibly reduced.
Did it perform well in snow/ice?
@@sunitjoshi3573 this is the question
@@sunitjoshi3573 yes
We too found the same thing with our Outback and Forester We LOVE the Cross Climate 2 tires and will buy them again.
@@Doc1855 Did they smooth out the squirmy steering at highway speeds on the Forester?? That's the one thing I really dislike about my '23 Forester... steering is just very wishy-washy on the highway!
I bought these about 6 months ago for my Nissan Kicks replacing the old Firestone tires of which I had problems with in the Illinois Snow. These have literally been the best all season I've ever owned. They do great in the snow, and the main difference I found was that these are amazing in the rain. I went from hydroplaning on the slightest puddle, to being able to easily go through puddles up to an inch deep with no problem. In the end this video was the one that pushed me over the edge, and I definitely don't regret it!
What is the profile on the tires that you have? Is it ok if my vehicle requires 65 but only 55 is available? I dont think there will be mutch difference
welcome to European all seasons
Literally just hit black ice while accelerating and traction control didnt even come on. Drove through nearly a foot of snow also... It just doesnt make sense how they can be this good
Jason without a whiteboard is like Santa without a beard.
kinda prefer this format tbh
It's crazy that both are white too.
"Why? Because Im lazy" Yes finally, someone that gets it.
Lazy and convenient. You only need to convert half the money into tyres. You might as well pick 1 set of excellent 4 seasons for less money than a mediocre set of summers and a mediocre set of winters
Laziness has been the reason for many innovations.
@@thenasadude6878 not entirely true. If you use winter tires, you're increasing the lifespan of your summer/all season tires because you're not using them in the winter.
@@tylersmith4265 of course it's not recommended to drive with all 8 tires installed at the same time. I wonder if duallies can legally mount winters on the external wheel only? Jokes aside sure, you get more or less the same total lifetime from any set of tires, at least for normal cars. But total cost of ownership will be lower on 4 seasons because you don't need to swap, store, balance and fit them 2 times a year, or buy a second set of rims. You also buy 1 set at a time, so cash flow is lower. More money remains in your pockets for longer and you can use it for other tasks until you buy the second set
@@billyracks yes, you get the same mileage out of any set of tyres. This as an approximation, but a fair one IMHO. The difference is that if you want summer and winter tyres, you must buy them at the same time or at best within 6 months of eavh other. With 4 seasons you buy another set after the 1st is used, so usually after a 3-4 years. Might not be the best technical solution, but it makes sense from a financial point of view. For tje same total mileage, you make a smaller investment twice, instead of a big investment once. This also means that if you don't like your tyres, you only wait half the time before replacing them.
I bought these last fall for our Subaru Forester and they're fantastic in everything from rain,sleet, ice and snow. I always get the best tires because of how important they are as it's the interface with the road and my wife often drives like a bat out of hell. We lost a young relative a couple of years ago when it was icy out and his car spun out into an oncoming delivery truck. What I wouldn't give to go back in time and buy him a set of these tires.
The attribute that I expected least from this tire is handling grip on dry pavement. While I’ve only had the tires a year, they are possibly the best all season tire I’ve driven in my 49 years of driving.
I work in a tire center and they are the tires I try sell the most. The best passenger rates all season tires I've ever seen
"Why? Because I'm lazy." And that got my upvote.
Cross climate 2: Electric boogaloo
I posted almost the same thing before I saw your post. Great minds...
it takes 15 min to swap winter setup
@@ImEpicc and?
@@ImEpicc sure, but then you notice you pads are worn so you're like we'll I don't want to do them in the winter so I'll do them now, while doing them you notice you have some play in you upper ball joint and you think we'll I already have the tire off and the car jacked I might as well
I’ve own a set on my 2021 Hyundai Palisade for 7 months and these are literally the best set of tires that I’ve ever owned. I immediately replaced the factory tires, Hankook’s which I don’t like from previous experience, and decided on the CrossClimate2’s after watching and reading several reviews. It’s been a great decision.
Thanks.. interestingly, my 2007 Canyon REAR DRIVE: great with four “”HANKOOK STUDS( “”fairly cheap) ……
are they quiet? because looking at the tread pattern, i would assume they'd be loud
@@Lou-wy1zy yes, my HAKKAPALIETA STUDS ARE some noisy…. On my 2015 JOURNEY , FRONT WHEEL DRIVE( worth it on our miles of ice, uphills,etc: frankly, I ,maybe, should have waited for an ALL WHEEL DRIVE **Bargain, in retrospect : 4 W STUDDED, BEST)..
Do you drive in snow alot? I do. Plus I have a steep driveway. Are these effective in snow? I run two sets of wheels, one for winter another for the other seasons so these would only be used in winter.
@@Lou-wy1zy They are louder - bit honestly my music or conversation is loud enough to where it doesn't matter.
Just found this review of the CrossClimate2 tires and I’m glad I watched it. I replaced my worn out Bridgestone Ecopias on my car in December with these very tires. I was impressed by the traction improvements in what little snow we had. Now I’m starting to experience wet weather driving. So far these are the best tires I’ve ever had on a car. I’m planning on installing a set on the wife’s van we bought used a year ago. The tires are reasonably new, but she complained about poor traction in the snow. These will definitely fix that issue. Thanks for the honest review. It makes me feel good about this purchase, especially for what they cost.
I work at discount tire and I’ve sold a few sets of cross climates, I’ve never seen a cross climate come back for being worn down yet 😂
Discount tire gang! Well I live in Cali so it’s America’s tire but same same
We've worn 4 out, took 30,000 miles (and 2 punctures) though...
That's where I bought mine!
@@EngineeringExplained Me too!
@@ewrsteading235 so, about the same as DWS-06
As a tire mechanic, these are my favorite tires to work on. They are really easy and nice to mount. They always are low roadforce and balance with low weights.
That is the sign of high quality tire. I tell ya, after having been a tire buster myself for a couple of years in the early 90’s, I’ve come to the conclusion that Michelin makes the best tires hands down. From their snow tires to summer sport tires. They just cannot be beat.
@@twistedneck Michelin makes great, high quality tires, but the best snow/winter tire around is hands down the Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2
@@SweetShawn999 would that survive year round in Michigan? i'm not saying optimal just would it make it? or would street driving in summer destroy it?
@@twistedneck They could probably do one maybe two full years if you don't swap for summer as they are super soft, but you should easily get 5 winters out of them. I'm in Alberta and I know a few people that just rock winters all year, it just gets too hot for like 3 months and it's those months that just shred them apart. True all seasons, I'd almost always go for a Michelin if you're looking to spend Michelin $$
@@twistedneck spend the money on a winter set with winter wheels the costs are about the same when all is said and done.
Bought a set this year in Alberta, they work great in snow and are surprisingly quiet. Very pleased with the performance so far!
Cross Climate 2 - The best all season tire I've ever driven. From Minnesota where we get a lot of snow. The Cross Climate 2 is so stable and controllable in all conditions. I bought mine at Costco and I now see stacks of them ready for sale in my local store. Why stacks of Cross Climate 2's? Because Costco is selling lots of them to Minnesotans who spend half the year driving in nasty conditions. Good news spreads and neighbors are telling neighbors about these great tires. I sure have spread the word. Thanks to Michelin for creating this tire.
Barely get snow in London. Am I better off with a summer pilot sport 5 tyre
@@wakaflockaproject Your climate gets cold enough where any summer tire, even without snow, will see really degraded performance on your coldest days as the tread compound is not optimized to perform in cold. This can, in the worst case, equate to longer breaking distances and loss of traction when cornering, or even the tire being permanently ruined. If you want a performance tire that you can use year round, I would recommend considering the Pilot Sport A/S4, which is an Ultra High Performance All Season, and has a very small amount of snow capability, and is suitable for use in dry, colder weather.
@@npaul4171 what about cross climate 2?
All Weather, here in Canada
In snowy Minnesota, our roads off you! They lull you into a false sense of security by going into a store to do shopping and it’s 58 degrees out, by the time you’re done shopping it’s a foot of snow and 15.
is it me or does this tire pattern look really satisfying
Yeesssss
Love how the pattern looks. It is such a freaking good tire for all seasons. Costco did a $150 promo and its a real steal. It never snows here in Texas but it is too good all year round.
@@e-care-books9867 I don’t think anyone at all would find this humorous.
@@Opalivian Texas in 2021 disagrees with the second part of your comment
Ummm...I'm seeing a similarity to the Goodyear "gatorbacks" of the 90s. Or tractor tires. I'm thinking noisy (?) Maybe I'll wait for more opinions from unsponsored reviewers. I have Bridgestone Duelers that I like but are worn. A bad choice for tires is something most people are stuck with for a long time so I may opt for sticking with what I already know about the Bridgestones.
These non-skippable KZhead tire ads are getting out of control. 😂
I came here to watch commercials 🤦🏼♂️😳
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@@d0x360 They were making a joke yall.
What would you expect from the money-grabbing (and grubbing) reptiles at ABC Company (Google)?
This is the exact type of tire I need driving between Nevada and California for work. The snow conditions crossing over the mountain and the dry transitions would make this tire the best choice.
Have you tried these? I'm in a similar scenario.
@@garbagetrash2938 I haven't. I went with michelin pilot all weather due to possible clearance issues and availability. It is winter rated. If I had to choose again I would go with these for winter mountain driving. The pilot sports are amazing but I still need to use chains.
We are in Utah snow and California deserts alternately. I wonder if it would make sense to try these on the wifes 2wd?
@@distilledfreedom1840 yeah that's the only tire I can find like this. Especially if you don't need chains.
I've been using the CrossClimate tires for three years and they are fantastic. Just got a new set of the CC2 on my AWD Buick Envision back in September, and they are even better in the snow than the previous version. Sometimes it feels like I actually have snow tires on my car! I'd recommend them to anyone who lives in the snowbelt (I'm in West Michigan, so lots of lake effect snow here).
We get 5-7 feet of snow every winter here in north central Washington state. We have the Cross Climate 2 tires on both our Outback and Forester. They’re AWESOME year round tires !
That drone footage, and those treads YES YES YES!!!
HELLO!!! I want to spend time with celebrities. Just kidding. GAGAGAGAGA! I only want to spend time with my two girlfriends and record KZhead videos for with the 3 of us. OH YEAH. Don't hate me for living the best life, dear hjm
Such great drone footy!
Oiii
Yeah big time. Hey, what about a video to see if warm tires really do work better in the snow and ice. Or a video on why some vehicles with less horsepower and torque can tow more than those with more
LIGHTENING! LIGHTENING! LIGHTENING!
Because I'm lazy: the Engineer's creed.
I actually wanted to smack his face when he said that... Made me loose the respect I had. People driving on "all season" tires all year round should be kicked in the nuts.
Because he’s got bills to pay too (paid advertising flag did pop up)
Exactly: Think hard, do good research ONCE, now DRIVE while checking hypotheses formed when initially researching. Sounds legit to me. (Physicist).
@@RobWhittlestonesince the vast majority of consumers don’t try different tires with the same vehicle at the approx same mileage since tires last 50k or so miles, doesn’t that mean you’re very limited on the conclusions you can actually draw from your experience? (Biology and psych by training, not by trade).
@@rkuoch1 Hi Robert - I agree - I think average consumers don't do this. They pick by price and maybe performance criteria like wet grip and noise and choose the best of a mediocre bunch. But car nerds possibly have several vehicles (I have two and my wife has one) and may have more opportunities to change. I just got some new ones on my sports car because the rears had been unevenly worn through misalignment - so there was a new choice right there. If I'm happy with my choice I'll stay with them and get the other 2 replaced, if not, I'll replace all of them next spring. There my criteria will be different from my wife's or from my long-distance spacious wagon - I'll want summer grip wet/dry and steering to be good, fuel economy no issue but noise should not be excessive but need not be whisper quiet. Do you see what I mean? All the best, Rob
We have had the plus on my wife’s 2008 highlander hybrid. We currently have 389,000 miles on it. We have only bought Michelins LTx until we bought the cross climate about 6 months ago. It has been nothing short of outstanding in all weather conditions. As with all Michelins they are a little more pricey. But we have gotten as high as 85k on a set before they hit the wear bars. Just rotate them and keep air pressure right. In addition no more road noise than the prior Michelins. Very quiet.
I've had these on my 2018 chevy volt for the last year and love them. Handle the rain and snow in Michigan amazingly.
I’d never considered airflow through a tire as something that would contribute to tire noise. Educational, techy, geeky, car-focused content FTW 😎
tires are best on tire4coin
2 thumbs up. I learned more about tread function and design in 10 minutes than 50 years of driving. Thank you
We own an Outback and a Forester Touring. We get 5-7 feet of snow every winter and were looking for a year round tire for our Subaru’s. We chose the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires. We’ve found them to be exceptionally great tires. They’re Awesome on dry, wet, slushy and snow covered roads. Their a quiet tire and they don’t cut down on our mileage. We liked them so much that we’ve recommended them to our family who lives in Montana, USA where they get just as much snow as we do here in north central Washington state. I was talking to my brother (who he and his wife live in Portland Oregon) and they get a LOT of rain. He laughed and said that they also have the Cross Climate 2 tires on their Outback. They’re not a good off road tire but are fine on forest and logging roads. When they wear out, we’ll replace them with another set of 4. Thanks Michelin for making such an amazing 4 season tire.
Snow tires!!!!
@@vontrap6942 The Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires are Awesome for all road conditions, except for serious off roading. They’re great on logging and forest roads as well. For serious off roading, we take our 4WD pickup with Cooper Discoverer A/T tires. I simply put 240# of sand bags over the rear axle of our pickup for extra traction during our very snowy winter months.
These came with C40 (CrossClimate 2 SUV) and I wanted to try them out. Changed just as we got "one more blizzard". And I can confirm. These are amazing! Almost as good as Continental Viking Contact 7 studless tires. That's saying a lot! Going to keep these well into the winter. Nicely done Michelin!
Do you plan on getting them in the future? Would you go back to Continental?
@@alejandrohector4528 oh don't get me wrong. They can't replace VCs. With - 20° and 100km/h I wouldn't trust CC2s. But with mild weather and city speeds they are excellent. No need to worry if first snow comes at night and you're still rocking CC2s. They buy you time to change to prober winter tyres. Studs or no.
how’s your tread life if you don’t mind?
@@good-tn9sr only had them for like 7000km last year. So still basically brand new. Installing them back in few weeks.
@@Sahkoautoseparempiauto alright thanks for the update!
"Mountain Snowflake" That's what my boys call me when we're on the slopes! Thanks - once again - for the great work.
I just put a set of CrossClimate 2's on my 2016 HR-V. I can definitively say these tires are unbelievable. The hype is real! Fantastic grip on pavement and snow. Very quiet on the highway. Excellent gas mileage. Michelin knocked it out of the park!
Thanks for confirming! Buying some as we speak :)
Don't forget to change the rear differential fluid if it's all wheel drive. Recently had a customer ruin the differential in one because they never changed it.
I heard the gas mileage gets worse?
@@brianH45 how does one change the RDFluid Thank U
hmmm how are you doing tire rotations?
In North America, this Crossclimate "all-season" tire is known as an all-weather tire, as regular all-seasons here aren't 3-peaks-mountain-snow-flake approved (all seaons here are in fact 3-season tires). In EU, all-seasons == all-weather.
Yeeeeup!
Exactly
Notably all seasons can be pretty trash in the rain too where at least the all-weathers that I've had tear that up.
Thank you for mentioning this. I was trying to find this tire at my local shop and couldn't because I was filtering by all-seasons!
I bought these today for my rear wheel drive Dodge Challenger RT Plus, cause we got HAMMERED with snow the last 3 days here in Idaho. When I bought them from my local tire dealership, I thought I was getting an upsell. NOPE! These tires and AWESOME! And have turned my rear wheel drive Challenger back into the all weather best she is supposed to be! Great video, and great tires!!!
“Why? Cause I’m lazy”
My favourite bit 😂
Yep instant like after he said this! After all it's the reason I was interested in the video in the first place!
Because I'm lazy is the best justification for everything xD
I'll admit having to take my WRX to the tire place to get the TPMS recalibrated each time I change tires/wheels is really annoying.
Same reason as me
0:32 "Why? Because I'm lazy" describes most humans on the planet.
Lazy yes, but also it can get expensive changing tires twice a year or having a spare set.
în momentul acesta am montat pe masina mea , cauciucuri de iarnã , si va trebui în curând sã cumpãr un set nou de cauciucuri de varã , montajul costã £60 sterling ; plus valoarea cauciucurilor undeva la £260 sterling (4 wheels) , iar la iarnã v-a trebui sã repet procedeul de înlocuire a pneurilor , annual I loose £120 sterling , only to replace the tires on alloy wheels .
@@paulconstantin4760 poți sa cumperi 2 seturi de toți cu tot cu cauciuc, și atunci doar o sa ai nevoie să le schimbi 2 ori pe an singur fără să plătești nimănui.
Lazy, and from the pacific northwest... we don't have "real" winter, not outside of the mountains anyway.
@Engineering Explained I, for one, would love to hear your long term experience with these, especially with respect to tread wear. It's great to hear a engineering oriented forensic analysis done well. Thank you !
I’m on Cross Climate + for 3.5 years now with a rear wheel drive. I got them while living in New England before winter, which provides opportunity. I have 32 K on them with plenty of tread still. When they were knew, I drove on the interstate at night in a huge downpour. You couldn’t see the road or the lanes, as the water was collecting on the road and it was in the country. I slowed down to 40 just because, but honestly, they cut through the water so well, I couldn’t even feel it. One cut on them was there was noticeable noise at low speeds that would disappear once you sped up. After some thousands of miles it went away. I don’t know if the 2 still has that. I have a Lexus LS, which are phenomenally quiet so it was significant. They did well on both snow and ice through one winter. With a rear wheel, I didn’t push it. Before this I went through two sets of Michelin Primacy’s on a Lexus ES. To me, these were just as nice to drive on. Once broken in, just as quiet (again, I have a very quiet car that may fudge that, but I read a review that said they were pretty equal). I discovered them before they were really popular here and watching reviews from European channels that tested them in big snow in Northern Europe and raves about them.
I'd think the tread contact area would go from oval-to-rectangle making the disapating stearing feel and increasing to hydroplaneing .The first noticeable as the tire wears.
Well he did say he’s already put 8000 miles on the 2’s
The Cross Climate 2s have tread "grooves" that "widen" slightly as they wear down so less depth but a wider "groove" equals or should equal similar water / slush performance. These are rated as 100,000 to 110,000 km??? which is 60,000 to 70,000 miles. It would ne a miracle to get anywhere near that but 60 to 70,000 kms ( 40 ton 45,000 miles ) shouldn't be that hard to achieve and is pretty good for a tire that will grip in snow a lot better than an all season tire ( they call these all seasons but they are an All WEATHER tire . All Seasons are actually 3 season Tires. Wear depends on how you drive, how you are with keeping the tire pressures correct, whether you drive with heavy loads, high speeds. trailer pulling and if you "rotate" the tires every 4,000-5,000 miles ( in this case with directional tires it's simply moving fronts to back and backs to front ). 99% of people brake too hard, accelerate too fast, and don't check tire pressures correctly or at all.
Not just being lazy. Many of us are unable to purchase 2 sets of tires. Having one set that do all 4 seasons properly.
Now this was a great lesson. I’m so tired of switching wheels twice a year. These will be my next set
I don’t even have a car, i still watched the whole video
MVP, thanks for watching!
This means you are a petrol head. Welcome to the club 👍
Me Either, Good Luck.
It’s good to know about tires just in case you buy a used car with some bald ones.
@@ronan7812 don’t forget diesel😼
I saw these on the wall at my local costco about a year ago and thought to myself "That looks like a very effective tread pattern for the snow", glad I could get an easy recap here!
I purchased CrossSeason 2 tires at Costco in the USA. Got four 20 inch rim tires for my Lexus 450h. Cost about $950. Tire rides quiet, excellent handling, great braking. Replaced Bridgestone Ecopia, grateful I had to do the replacement as I have a far superior tire now.
I have these on our 14 Flex AWD. Absolutely awesome. Dead silent, and great grip. It's so nice not having to bother with swapping tires in the spring and then again in the fall.
"Why? Because I'm lazy!" YES! This is a video i can relate to :)
I put Goodyear WeatherReady on 17' Rav 4 - live in Minnesota. Very happy with their performance over the OEM Toyo that came on the vehicle when new. Haven't tried these Michelins, I will compare the two when I am looking to replace the tires. Thanks for the content, keep up the good work.
Had my CC2's two winters now, and i still love them! Had plenty of snow here in middle part of Sweden and they work great in deep snow and slushy weather. I think AWD is a must though.
I'm really happy to see you mention these tires. I bought them the advice of a Renault dealer and I'm happy to see that their advice was worth the price.
Been using these! Love them. Big rains here when I bought them. Old tires- nervous in the higher puddles. New tires- hits every single puddle, no worrying.
Still happy with them? I live in Florida so no snow but lots of heavy rain in the summers.
I would like to know too.
Might be overkill for just rain especially for that price. I have some all season p zeros that have had no problems in rain or snow
I work in tires, and definitely this tire is one of the best tires I had seen, we are using this tire for a lot of the Amazon delivery trucks, here in VA ,
225/65-17 on 2018 vw tiguan, very quiet tire much like all season radial. Replaced all terrain snow flake tires that were so loud you couldn’t talk or think. Traction on snow / ice already tested and it is no issue. Towing a trailer @1500lbs total weight no issue including reverse up incline on snow.
I learned more about tire design from this guy than I ever did anywhere else, amazing!
I bought these for my son's first car (old Subaru Impreza) before seeing this, now I feel like I made great choice. Way cheaper than buying both a winter and summer tire, plus I don't have to store them and swap them twice a year. Lazy is smart. We some snow recently so I put them to the test. Stopped on a step grade on the side of the road with no tracks. Then drove right out of it. These are the real deal.
Thanks, how is steering, braking, etc on -30 Pe4formance, Black ices, snow pak(*;i,am still NOKIAN studs in HELENA Valley MT)??. Thank you.?.
Thanks,McKee THANK YOU for comments, ..HOW are these in BLACK,ICEING, SNOW PACKS, -30F,METC?? .(**;i,am still NOKIAN STUDS, SWITCHING BACK ,ETC)..:ps we do love my STUDS!,( actually NOKIAN SUV SUMMERS BEEN GOOD)
Dude I'm just now finding out about this tire and sure enough you've already made a video about it. Thank you!
Had them on my Cadillac XT5. Best tires ever! In the rain they were amazing. Only drove in light snow and they also did great. Will buy again for sure.
I have bought Michelins for 30 years. They are quiter and very reliable. I like them a lot.
How do you know how they compare if you've been buying them for 30 years?
@@Larcona_ Good question. 40 years ago they were the only affordable premium tire. I bought them at Sears (Canada). Now I buy them at Costco in Tennessee; the sales guys tell me they are quiter and softer and brake in shorter distances than the comparable Goodyears (but probably don't last as long). That's reflected in online reviews. Probably makes no real difference; I drive a Camry.
@@10tenman10 They are just so damn expensive. I'm a tire guy. Michelin is by far the best, but not everyone can afford them. I have Coopers on my truck and really like them. I live in an area with no snow so I purchased the highway tread for my Ram 1500. (OE is 275/60r20). After 30,000 miles they are holding up nicely (plus Arnold Palmer likes them, anything Arnold Palmer endorses is okay by me.) Coopers are on Air Force one and the space shuttle. I would rather have Michelin but they just cost too much. From 1981 to 1997 I was firmly entrenched in the tire business and I never EVER saw the failure of a Michelin. I would rarely see a Goodyear, Kelly, or Nitto fail either. What I saw fail for no reason was Pirelli, BFG, Firestone, and General. These are just my observations after 16 years of seeing over 200 tires pass through my workplace every day. Michelin is obviously the best.
@@paulh7589 agree with your comment. I have had Coopers and liked them a lot. I have never had any problems with Michelins (apart from nail puncture holes which I have had repaired).
I work at fedex currently and been getting 100s of these and move them all one at a time by hand, I hate these tires 😂😂
I know what you mean. For years I cleaned toilets that I would never be using. Just remember that those tires are very important to the people they end up with, and perhaps indirectly they're grateful for your part in getting the tires out to them. I'm grateful for all of you guys that make shipments possible, and especially so during this COVID.
Thanks for doing it!
@@discerningmind sorry, didnt see the response, I try to treat every package like its mine, cant say that about everyone at my location though! Thanks for the thanks and happy holidays!
@@pimpsterrrrr no problem, hope you have a good holiday!
Good workout
Of course he drives a Subaru Crosstrek. I can't imagine him driving a F250 diesel or F350 dually. But seriously, Jason provides a huge amount of science and engineering in tire design. Most people just think that if they're round, black, and a hole in the middle, it's a tire. But tire design requires a lot of engineering, organic and inorganic chemistry to formulate the tire compound, physical mechanics, computer modeling, and acoustic engineering.
Great video and it confirms what I have found out for myself. I put a set of the Cross Climate 2s on my AWD Acura MDX and they are absolutely the best tire I've ever run on this vehicle. They are quieter than the Goodyear tires that were originally on the vehicle. Plus the feel and handling is hands down better than it has ever been.
Same here! I have 2 Acura MDX’s, (2003 Tech and 2013 Advance), and the Ross climates are great on my 2003! I use the Forcinium Heptagons for my 2013. Those are even better off-road!
Jason, I'd like an update video once you have some miles driven in ice and snow please.
-30°celsius please!!!!
I'm interested in an update as well!
these will never ever be nearly as good as dedicated winter tires. If ice/snow is a genuine concern of yours, don't bother getting any all-weather tires.
@@gwot Don't be so sure. Reputable tests have indicated that some all-weather tires outperform some dedicated winter tires in snow. Times have changed and these types of tires are a game changer.
@@georgeedwards5173 yes, the best all-weather tire can out perform the worst winter tire in SOME areas, I've seen those tests too. But when it comes to the extreme, as in extreme cold, or wet ice, the dedicated winter Sipes and softer compound will still win. I do not believe we're at the point where we can have the best of both worlds in one tire. I also don't believe the same manufacturer will make an all-weather better than dedicated winters. Again, all-weather tires have no place if you see ice and snow and Extreme cold for more than half a year.
Watching this is like having a conversation with myself about tires because nobody wants to talk about tires with me as much as I want to talk about tires with me.
I’m the oddball who loves tire shopping. I can spend hours on tire rack comparing tires! 😀
Then check out Tyre Reviews. Founder and presenter, Jonathan, is also very active in comment section. Right now, he is on a American tour, reviewing UHP all season tyres
If you want real fun, one of many tire books a the University of Illinois-Champaign, Illinois library is "Tire and vehicle dynamics" by Pacejka, H.B. and Besselink, Igo. Table of Contents: 1. Tire characteristics and vehicle handling and stability -- 2. Basic tire modeling considerations -- 3. Theory of steady-state slip force and moment generation -- 4. Semi-empirical tire models -- 5. Non-steady-state out-of-plane string-based tire models -- 6. Theory of the wheel shimmy phenomenon -- 7. Single contact point transient tire models -- 8. Applications of transient tire models -- 9. Short wavelength intermediate frequency tire model -- 10. Dynamic tire response to short road unevennesses -- 11. Motorcycle dynamics -- 12. Tire steady-state and dynamic test facilities -- 13. Outlines of three advanced dynamic tire models. "The definitive book on tire mechanics by the acknowledged world expert Covers everything you need to know about pneumatic tires and their impact on vehicle performance, including mathematic modeling and its practical application Written by the acknowledged world authority on the topic and the name behind the most widely used model, Pacejka's 'Magic Formula' Updated with the latest information on new and evolving tire models to ensure you can select the right model for your needs, apply it appropriately and understand its limitations In this well-known resource, leading tire model expert Hans Pacejka explains the relationship between operational variables, vehicle variables and tire modeling, taking you on a journey through the effective modeling of complex tire and vehicle dynamics problems." Or maybe you just like to look at tires! :D I like to do both.
Tires are one of the most important thing on cars
Got these 2 years ago at Costco for my Avenger RT. Originally they talked me into ecopias which were horrible. Lots of tire spin couldn't handle the 285hp on front wheels. I then took them back and had the cross climates put on and never looked back. They work in all conditions and handle Cleveland winters perfectly. I'm probably somewhere in the 8k mile range with them and they still work great!
I have to say - I am about a week late finding out about these tires. I live in North Dakota so winters suck for driving, and I just got a second set of wheels with snows mounted for winter. Had I known this tire was out there, I might have saved myself the hassle of two sets of wheels and tires each year. That said, I’m extremely happy with how they perform in the snow. I think when it comes time for a new set of all seasons I’m going to really be looking at these!
Shoot04 don't be to hard on yourself ,if your winters are extremely bad with snow and cold temperatures for long periods ,The full winter tyre is the correct choice, These Michelin are perfect for milder climates like southern uk and lower Scotland , the Highlands of Scotland and northern Europe may require a greater tyre for winter
I can confirm that the CrossClimate+ are awesome! Very comfy, very silent, great grip :)
I just bought these for my Impreza outback sport
@@legitballin1986 I’m trying to get the same thing for the same car. What do you think of them
i have them for 4 years now, arround 30000 km, excelent in summer, wet, half decent in winter - meaning once you get going they are ok, getting out of snow, they spin a lot not gripping, but is normal not beign a dedicated winter tire. Overall? beign lazy they are worth every penny just dont get your hopes up. Ah and wear? 40000 km are more than enough not like the vide says 50k mils or 60k miles in their dreams :))
I am trying to choose between these and the Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 plus.
@@MrLips635 DWSs are amazing, have them on a q50, they're about halfway done but handled the snow in PA this winter wonderfully
Nokian WR series tyres revolutionized “all weather” (vs all season) with three peak winter certification over a decade ago. I’m happy to see Michelin get into this category for North America.
Wondering how the Nokians compare here!
Nokian rapes Michelin
I’ve tried Nokian Weatherproof and I was very impressed with it on the snow, now I’m on Michelin CC. I think Nokian is better on snow but does wear off quicker and a bit noisier compared to Michelin.
@@DaveBenson I don't know how Nokian compare with the Michelins but I had WR G3 on my Outback and they were pretty good all weather tires. Now on my Ascent I have Goodyear Assurance WeatheReady and to my surprise the Goodyears are much better than the Nokians especially on ice and in deep slush.
I'm running WRG4s right now but haven't had serious winter weather to test them. A fine tire otherwise, would like a little more wet grip though. Cross climates look appealing.
I have been using them from December 2021 till today in Greece so I have experienced relatively mild weather conditions. They are quite soft and silent and they seem to provide a decent grip in all surfaces as long as you do not push them. During this summer I have decided to put them to a cornering test in high temperatures and my Passat cc would wiggle in every corner .. I would say that it is a family man's tyre and probably that's what it was designed for.
I believe the highest speed rating they posses is V. They're definitely not track tires but I'm seriously considering them for my Taurus SHO.
Kales,,rodes,,,malaka,,
Drove a Passat with these on an icy road in Nebraska a year ago and was so impressed I bought a set for my in-laws CR-V as well as my wifes vehicle. They fit our Nebraska needs so well its hard to think of another tire that is even close. We’ll see how they hold up of course, but even if I only get 40k out of them I’ll probably buy another set. Dont skimp when it comes to safety
I just didnt get how he said that they have a compound similar to a winter compound, yet they're all seasons. Sounded to me like they would wear like crazy, and the reviews say they do. How are yours holding up this summer?
@@rabidlenny7221 Thanks for asking! We have about 10K miles on my wife’s set (2005 CR-V)and about 12K on my in-laws (2018 CR-V). So far they are wearing just fine. Its still too early to know for sure how they will do long term but so far I am very happy with them. I think these tires are extremely sensitive to alignment issues and need frequent rotations (though, they can only go from front to rear since theyre directional) or else they’ll wear unevenly and be toast. I really only expect to get 40k miles out of them anyways. Id much rather be confident my wife and baby will be able to stop in the winter than get 80K miles out of a Michelin Defender. Ill happily buy another set if my opinion doesnt change before then.
@@clintonbartek1413 Agreed man! Just curious but im glad theyre workign out for you. I considered them too but they dont make them in the sizes needed for an s2000. The one thing was that they look like they have almost no groves really for lateral grip.. Im sure the fluid dynamics of slush are complex lol. So they might have plenty of lateral grip.. but that was one thing I was wondering about too
@@rabidlenny7221 nice dude, believe it or not I have an S2k as well!! I went with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on that last year and they are *chefs kiss* fabulous. However, it will never see a flake of snow, so I dont worry about winter with that one!
@@clintonbartek1413 Haha yeah, its my daily, used to live in NJ but now live in VT... gonna have to figure something out for winter. Went with the Contiential DWS 06+'s. A really nice all season. I don't track it, although I would really like to. I do a lot of hiking, and with snow coming, in the same way you bought these michelins, I thought that was the "safest" tire. Would love to be machismo and say I bought summer tires cause I track it! But I dont, so I thought I'd be real with myself. I do enjoy drifting it on dirt roads though lol. And of course you have an S2K!! Game recognize game as they say :)
I have used the "old" + version on my Leaf for the last three years, fantastic here in the UK where we rarely get Snow for more than a few days at a time, superb in the wet too.
I work at discount tire and we just recently started getting these in. When I first saw it I definitely noticed it had a funky look. Customers seem happy with though they balance easy.
Hopefully (for Michelin, and customer's sake) they're not a huge flop like the Premier A/S and LTX.
Discount tire my favorite tire spot. Free rotation for the life of the tires. I bought these for my wife's car. They're pretty good in the wet. These replaced some continental DWS03
Same, work at Discount, people rarely buy them but maybe this will get them more sales who knows. As long as they're better quality than most of the rest of Michelin. Been having quality issues for a bit now.
@@USMCPFC1 hopefully better in the snow than the DWS, but those are more of a high performance allseason.
@@thegoodson2000 I actually had great results with the premier A/S. So much so I ran through two sets on my 09 Honda Accord LX-P getting 60k miles each time. Though my alignment was proper and tires were rotated every 6k miles. Sorry for your loss though.
I put these on my wife’s ‘15 Ford Edge. They have amazing traction on the Minnesota snow & ice! Was a little worried that they would be loud on the hwy, but surprisingly quiet. Seem to be a great tire so far
How did they perform in the hotter dry months? I’m also in Minnesota and am looking to get these before the winter.
I have the cross climate 2’s on my Volvo wagon, and they are absolutely perfect for our Oregon weather year round. Highly recommend.
As a Taxi driver, typically 60-70 K miles per year, 50% motorway the rest back roads etc. normally highly loaded (passengers, luggage). I first tried the Cross Climate tyre a few years ago. Winter driving transformed, superb grip and good ride in snow and rain. The fantastic upside is that on my Mercedes E-Class estate these tyres lasted approximately 20-30 % longer than other manufacturers. I now do not use anything else. The only downside is the price!
$500 installed on my corolla... that's not even that bad
@@banzaiib where did you get for that price? kindly advice.
£982.76 for 235 55 19 here in the UK for 4 tyres not fitted That’s $1320.51 at the current exchange
@@buckleyjteams it's £662.60 on kwik-fit with 15% discount when you buy 4 right now offer
@@danuViking am guna need them soon it’s snowing where I am
I just got these installed on my car. It’s quiet. Smooth and really good in the rain. Will see how it holds up, so the tire shop was like these are snow tires. I’m like no. It’s all season. Then tried to argue they were snow tires because it has the snow peaks on the tires 🤦🏽♂️. At that point I was like bro. Just put the tires on. That’s y I’m here. No point in arguing.
I need safe tires for both hot summers and slushy, frigid winters. I having a new set of four of them put my Trailblazer tomorrow. Looking forward to their year round performance and added safety.
@@montag4516 so far I’m enjoying them. I’ve put over 20 thousand miles on it and they still look new. Driving 180 miles to work. We haven’t had any snow but it held up great in hurricane ida.
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I had a set of hydroedge tires. They had a similar pattern but with a central groove. They could pump through and inch of water at speed. They were great in wet. They were throroughly deadly on snow. It makes sense that they finally mated the compound and pattern to maximize performance in snow. I would rather give up 5% grip in tbe dry instead of 95% grip in snow.
Perfect tire for cold climates with moderate snow or urban areas with more snow that are frequently plowed. Massive snow/ice grip improvement over all seasons.
Seems like a great tire. I will definitely consider this for my next set.
I have had CrossClimate+ on 3 cars by now (Switzerland and Hungary) and I am extremely satisfied with it.
I have them on my two EVs here in Switzerland. I have driven them over snowy mountain passes (Flüla Pass) to the ski resort and I love them.
Just purchased these tires for my 19 year old son's 2018 Mazda 3, largely based on this video. I've got so much more confidence in these tires helping to get him around safely in various weather conditions than I did with the budget all seasons that came with the car.
My wife's Suzuki SX4 does fine in the Alberta winters with the CC's but this year we bought Winter tires because of increased driving and its a big jump in improvement of confidence while driving. I think if you live in places where you get some snow but its not constant like some places in the east US and in a place like Vancouver that All Weathers(3peaks) can be ok, but they will be only passable in other places with harsher winters.
I have always loved Michelins, now I love them more!
Just got these from tire rack for my 2012 fusion. Great tire in the rain and snow! Much better than any all season tire.
I have the original cross climates after having used two sets of Good Year Vector 4seasons. The Vectors performed better in the snow, but were very vague in the summer. Also snow grip dropped considerably after the 2nd year, although not to the point that I'd rush to replace them. The CrossClimates are a superior 4 season tyre that will still get you out of a tricky situation in the snow, but the Vector 4 Seasons were more dependable in actual winter conditions. So choose according to the year round conditions at your location.
Good Year is more Snow oriented.. but I saw some other review, CC2 is very close to wintertyre compared to the CC1
Thank you for the video, it's nice to see that I'm not alone when looking into the depth of tyre performance
That video just quadrupled my knowledge of tires and now I really want those tires!!!
Happy to test out these tyres Michelin, 255 40 r18. I'll be waiting for your call 🙄
Thanks for this. After watching several reviews I just ordered these for our 2018 Outback.
always a pleasure listening to Jason 👍 thank you 🙏
I have used these on my car for two years, and i confirm that they are very good, reliable and safe tires.
Where abouts do you live?
@@trails3597 Central Europe with a few weeks of mild snow and freezing temperatures a year and the tire performed very good in these conditions (as well as summer and rain). If you live in the mountains or somewhere with heavy snow more than a few weeks a year, i'd still recommend more agressive winter tires.
I've been reading that while they're good tires, gas mileage has been reduced for many people. have you experienced this?
Tested this year and it completely failed on slightly icy hill. I had no problems on other car with proper winter tyres.
@@PavelSkollSuk shouldn't you be comparing against all season tires though?
I was curious and I installed the CrossClimate+ on my Kia Optima when the short-lived Michelin factory tires wore out. They perform well even in light snow, but they notably decreased the fuel economy -- at least according to the onboard computer.
Thanks for posting this. I'm considering this tire for my Honda Accord, but I think it might be overkill for my local road conditions. I don't know if I'll make up for the lost mpg by driving it on a few skiing trips per year instead of my other AWD, less fuel efficient vehicle.
I saw this video a year ago and knew I wanted these tires but didn’t have a reason to spend the money yet. Well, I had a flat the other day on a set of well-worn tires, so I got my reason! I just drove my car home from the shop with these bad boys on it! It’s a great ride so far! Thanks for the video!
I just wanted to say that I love your channel and I’ve learned so much, so please keep it up
Beta testing an unreleased tyre? Better not have any bugs in it ...
guess they puked all over the place ... presumambly the rims have to go into the trash
bugsnax
The bugs will be on the windshield.
REMEMBER NO PRE-ORDERS
wait... I wasn't supposed to put bugs in his tires
I'm never going back to other tyre types on my daily. They are excellent.
Your info is not only professional but it comes from your heart - thank you ❤ for your excellent package
I’ve had these tires in the rainy Pacific Northwest for 4 months now mounted to a 2016 Lexus RX. It’s insane how these cut through water. Hydroplaning doesn’t exist now, it’s insanely impressive.
I’ve got the cc2 and they grip. The best set of tires I’ve ever bought. Well worth the money.