Coach gets ejected but returns to the field. Ref calls game.
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The coach gets ejected. Later, one of his players is fouled inside the box and is awarded a PK. However, the ejected coach returns to the field to check on his player. The ref. calls the game
" That coach is a fool. " Truer words have never been spoken.
Tool.
Assuming the limited information provided in this video is correct, I wonder what all the parents of this young group of players is going to do about this "coach"? .....actually, "I wonder what the parents DID about this coach..." ....considering this happened many years ago ....and it is now October 2021
Maybe the hurt player was his son? Maybe he values his players more than the win? As a Parent, that makes that coach a Hall of Famer in my opinion.....when you get a bit older, you'll understand what I mean and why I said it.
@@samiam1254 Maybe he could have let someone else tend to the player?
@@majorlagg9321 I think he did the right thing, you don't have to like my opinion, you don't have to agree with my opinion, and you don't have to acknowledge my opinion, but on the other hand, I don't owe you anything, especially an explanation for my opinion.
As a softball/baseball umpire, I've had this happen to me. About 20 years ago, a colleague and I were surprisingly assigned to work the championship game of a youth league in a nearby small town that generally never bothered to hire "real" (fully qualified) umpires. However, we were told that one team's coach was "troublesome" and that he had thoroughly intimidated the local umpires who were mostly inexperienced teenagers. Thus, we were specially called in to handle the situation. Within 20 minutes he was ejected for persistently arguing about basic rules he didn't know. He left the field and went to the parking lot. However, he returned about 10 minutes later and stood by his team's bench. The game was immediately forfeited. The convenor of the league thanked us for doing our jobs properly.
There is always going to be the "guy" or "gal" who genuinely believes they know more than those around them ....and often the subject-matter is irrelevant. They genuinely believe they are "experts" in everything. They are sometime commonly known as ALPHAS. Assuming the limited information provided in this video is correct, I wonder what all the parents of this young group of players is going to do about this "coach"? .....actually, "I wonder what the parents DID about this coach..." ....considering this happened many years ago ....and it is now October 2021
Great story!!!
Would add, "real" umpires are not necessarily "fully qualified."
@@SaltiDawg2008 Yea but they would know the rules and have gotten certified. Now days tk become a coach you have to go through a required class and take a test.
I’m a 50 year old AAU/HS BBall official, here’s a little dose of reality for you over the top little league coaches and parents. Have you noticed that most officials are 40 and older. This is because young people don’t have the stomach for your antics. Now this may not seem like a big deal today, buuuuuut when lil Johnny/Jenny get to high school your gonna have a huge shortage of officials. That or a bunch of older men and women who you’ll say can’t get up and down the field/court. Personally I don’t care if you act an ass with me or my older compatriots cuz we know jus how to deal with you. What I’m asking is that you give the young officials a break. Jus something to think about.
yup, i ref soccer in illinois and every tournament in state and in neighboring states either has a 2 or one man system, even for high level u17-18 games, ive seen refs doing one man systems on final games in important tournaments because there are just not enough refs,
Very true. When I first started umpiring high-quality softball games in Canada in 1987, I was 23--the youngest member of our local umpiring association. When the association disbanded 20 years later in 2007, I was still the youngest member. Most newcomers quit after one or two seasons because of the abuse and the nonsense. This trend is common, I am told.
There has been a shortage of soccer refs for the past 5 years in my city. Some of it is due to soccer’s popularity for both girls and boys. And some move to lacrosse because parents don’t know the rules and don’t complain that much.
Yup. I was asked to ref recently since the ref that was supposed to show up had an emergency. I turned them down even tho I'm fit and know the rules. Simply put I can't deal with parents and sensitive kids.
I am a 19 year old umpire that just started this previous Spring. Coaches and parents have turned my view of youth sports upside down, I hate it now. High school baseball is not too bad. Coaches are more respectful and players are around my age, so they relate and understand when I explain things. At the travel ball level I hate it. I am only in it for the money at this point. Through one year and probably only 14 tournaments or so I have been followed to my vehicle twice after games. Parents and coaches are ruining the sport that I once loved. It is unbearable, and officiating is going to die out because of it.
My grand daughter played her first year of high school level softball on a team made up of players from two adjacent towns, Neither town had enough kids come out to field a team, but together they did really well. The other town contributed a senior pitcher that was just dynamite. She threw 21 strike outs at an invitational tournament mid season. A few years later, she was back as an umpire of a game between the two schools. Her old home town's coach had a pair of absolute melt downs about her calls (she got them right) and she finally ejected him from the game. He put up such a fuss, the cobs were called to escort his off the diamond. To her credit, she didn't forfeit the game and let the action start again. The coach was fired before the end of that week. Thankfully a school board actually made the right decision on a coach's conduct.
What a joke. Great example coach. Have you ever seen a ref change their mind because you shouted or said their call was ridiculous? Just chill and move on. Coach your team.
Coach was wrong. I refereed for a number of years. I would have done the same as the referee.
Good call he’s a fool
According to the Holy Bible and our LORD God and Savior Jesus Christ, you are not supposed to call one a fool. You will face the flames of hellfire.
@@codycooper2261 you’re the biggest fool since the saying came about
Ur gay
Seemed to me like the power hungry ref put hands on the coach first. Never back down from a bully.
A fool who didn't bother to learn the rules nor understand the culture. Sad for the children.
Looks like he even pushed the referee right before he called the match. That should be a definite suspension.
It’s a rec league, they can’t really suspend a coach.
ChilliPepper 456 they do in every Rec league I've been involved in
surprised the ref didnt fall over holding his ankle
That’s just the players that do that, soccer should be girls only.
These leagues have sign ups and registrations. Part of it is abiding by the rules. Every league I’ve heard of gives suspensions to anyone who gets ejected.
Wow puts his hands on an official minutes after he got ejected. Hope they suspended him from the league
The ref contacted the coach first
@@ronaldmead7643 lol. You mean at 0:24 after the coach was ejected yet magically made it onto the field? Hard to tell who started it from 60+ yards away but i might make the crazy assumption it might be the coach who was acting poorly all afternoon.
No excuse for that - even tho coach put his hands on Ref first! *Absolutely no excuse* !
When you are ejected you are not allowed to come bad period. No ifs ands or buts about it.
Cody Cooper yep once the soccer 12 year old soccer player got hit, and this somehow injured him so badly he was gonna die, the ejected coach somehow knows about this(if you get ejected you can’t watch from stands or parking lot) and comes to the rescue miraculously saving the kid with his superpowers. Because the ref is evil he forfeits the game because the coach cannot return. I think you’re right with this one
In many leagues a coach can return to assist with a serious injury. But this didn't look at all serious.
Everyone who's giving the "oh, what if he was dying?!?!?!" nonsense. Here's the viewpoint from another referee. In a soccer match, no-one can enter the playing area without the referee's permission. If a player is injured, the referee makes the call to stop the game and allow whomever is relevant to come and appraise/assist with the injury. If it looked serious, the referee could have indicated for the coach to come and help - but probably wouldn't. When something is really serious, you indicate for both team's physios to come on immediately but you also send someone to find someone with proper medical experience. Having someone in the area should be a requirement in an area like this, with so many matches going on - and the referee will have been informed where and how to find such help. Since he didn't do this - there's a 99.9+% chance that the kid was not seriously injured and the coach had no business being on that pitch. Referee was 100% correct to call the game. The coach will face some kind of discipline from the league and his team will forfeit the game. So, in the end it is the kids who suffer for his ill-discipline.....
@@kensavage7657 apparently the rules apply to everyone but that particular coach. I have seen garbage like that or worse than that in youth sports.
The game didnt get called because the guy came back, it's because he came back and put his hands on the referee.
My junior year of high school during a playoff game the opposing team’s head coach got a red card and at first refused to leave and the ref said “coach either you leave or we have the authorities escort you out”
The ref should not have said that--just abandon the game if the coach does not leave
Ironically this happened to me during a soccer game when I was roughly the same age. Our coach was arguing with the ref, about what Idk but in the end, ref called the game. Short time later it was found out that the ref and coach were father and son.
These coaches think they're above the rules yet they're always referring to "the rule book" when they want to argue in their own favor. He should have been removed from the Coach position for that season and be in review for ever being able to coach again.
do you not know anything about football?
@@jamesgray8250 I’ve seen a little on TV.
I had a mom try to argue the Laws of the Game with me after a match. She said she had a varsity soccer player for five years she had never heard that the ball had to leave the penalty area on a goal kick before it can be played, and that it was not a rule at the HS level. I referred her to laws 5 and 16.
Great job by the referee. He should be commended for his professionalism with this clown.
Assuming the limited information provided in this video is correct, I wonder what all the parents of this young group of players is going to do about this "coach"? .....actually, "I wonder what the parents DID about this coach..." ....considering this happened many years ago ....and it is now October 2021
I coached youth sports for 25 years, league president for one year. 99% of the parents were either good people or just normal people. Only about 1% of the parents were jerks.
Good to see referees not taking nonsense off the coaches or parents, without the ref you haven't got a game. You might not agree with all their decisions but give them the respect they deserve like they get in rugby
Seen this happen before but at a baseball game. Kid tries to steal 2nd and almost gets hit in the head. With play still continuing the coach and assistant coach runs out to check on him, both get ejected. Both coaches leave the field but return to the dugout yelling at the ump "we wanna talk to you after the game and we're not leaving!!!" Ump calls the game and calls the police after the coaches try to attack the coaches.
If you throw a ball onto a field, 20 kids can play all day and have fun. Out one parent in the crowd and now you have to have referees. Sad but true.
"put", not out
22 kids
The coach is an ass hole and should be fired!! Extremely bad example!!
Permanent Expulsion of the Cro-Magnon Coach!
Amazing. I don't know how you impress on these idiots that they're coaching a youth recreational team, not Manchester United, and they are not Sir Alex Ferguson.
Assuming the limited information provided in this video is correct, I wonder what all the parents of this young group of players is going to do about this "coach"? .....actually, "I wonder what the parents DID about this coach..." ....considering this happened many years ago ....and it is now October 2021
@@taxicamel I'm sure it all depends on how much this particular coach wins. Although I highly doubt it, if this team wins a lot, the parent will tolerate his bad behavior and bad example he's setting for his players.
Without refs no soccer ⚽ games ⚽🚿👍😁
I'd loved to have been a 'fly on the wall' when the ADULT (in this case, allegedly the 'coach') explained to the KIDS why HE was naughty !
AGREED ....and assuming the limited information provided in this video is correct, I wonder what all the parents of this young group of players is going to do about this "coach"? .....actually, "I wonder what the parents DID about this coach..." ....considering this happened many years ago ....and it is now October 2021
you don't seriously think he's going to spin it like that do you?
Gotta say. I was on a little league team and hated every minute of it. Parents ruined it.
Assuming the limited information provided in this video is correct, I wonder what all the parents of this young group of players is going to do about this "coach"? .....actually, "I wonder what the parents DID about this coach..." ....considering this happened many years ago ....and it is now October 2021
Go ahead parents and coaches keep acting this way. In 5 to 10 years you won't have youth sports. All of the officials in there 50s and 60s will retire and no younger ones are there to take our place.
who cares, we'll figure it out
@@Bostonguy222 okay chad the patriots fan
This is true. Kids and parents don't want to ref anymore. Parents because they are lazy and kids because they are afraid. It's ridiculous.
Makes me long for the days of my youth (back in the Stone Age...Barney Rubble and I graduated high school together). We just played...baseball, football, basketball, soccer, stick ball, etc. We didn't need organized leagues. We didn't need uniforms. And we certainly didn't need parents at our games, living vicariously through the athletic exploits of their kids.
@@Bostonguy222 you are part of the problem You offer nothing
Officials always win. Always. This guy should be removed from coaching. His player was fine. He laid hands on the official. Total tool. Thanks Dad.
Colton Palmer actually he was perfectly FINE. He gets up on his own and and then you can clearly see him walking off with out an issue. Its soccer, kids fall down... the coach is just a hot head who was looking for an excuse to go back and show his ass some more
Good! the Parents that never grow up need to be sent to their room...without dinner. A valuable lesson indeed!
The irony is always lost on fools like this coach. They never realize that they only hurt the team by misbehaving as they do. In my long life I've never seen officials swayed in favor of a coach or player who's acting out. Composure is the real power position, and the best athletes and coaches have it.
Over a kids soccer game
It sucks to see anyone ejected. You'd think ppl would try to be a good sport to continue fun competition
Where was this?
Such young kids had to watch a grown man act like a fool when they just want to have fun. Coaches like him a BIG reason why all sports are hurting for officials.
Great point.
Assuming the limited information provided in this video is correct, I wonder what all the parents of this young group of players is going to do about this "coach"? .....actually, "I wonder what the parents DID about this coach..." ....considering this happened many years ago ....and it is now October 2021
Great example to show the kids
Guess who wins every time? NOT the coach.
The game was "called" means "called off"?
Actually in sports jargon it means "terminated"--in other words forfeited to the non-offending team.
My coach needs to be on one of these videos
Shame when the 10 year olds have more class and sense than the coach
Geeat example for the team
That woman was pissed at the coach!
Omg these are like U10🤣🤣🤣
How OLD are these children?
that fool
those kids are like what 9?
Why is this recommended to me?
Can't tell the kids from parents. Have the games without coaches or parents.
One team looks much older and bigger than the other. Shouldn’t have been a game to begin with and that’s on the coach too.
Thought this was a jomboy vid for a second based off the title
It's only a game...
Maybe I am old, but what is a "pk" in sports terms?
penalty kick
@@BigSkyCurmudgeon Ah. Thank you.
This summarizes why there is a dearth of referees, and at this point I have learned that when a coach refuses to leave you abandon the match AND call the police. This coach will likely never coach again.
He was sent off. ‘Ejected’ FFS!
Why were his kids playing against a team whose players were several years older?
@Colton Palmer Shouldn't there be size requirements/limits just for safety sake, regardless of "abilities"?
What's a "PK'?
I want to know same thing…
What age group is this? Seriously! What is wrong with this coach?!
no one gonna talk about how the orange team is a foot taller than the black team?
What you tryna do? Get me to go watch the vid again? Well, it worked! 😂😂😂
jordonkey, I'm back! Def taller/bigger! 'Sup with that, I wonder!
@@Beezlie727 lol
These clips should be called "Adults Ruining Kids' Fun."
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Leagues don't care, won't institute real punishments. This coach will be back in the technical area in short order. I've refereed for over 10 years and there has been no evolution--time for revolution.
Game should have been over with the ejection, since there were no other responsible adults to take over.
As a referee of youth sports I can empathize with the desire to just end the game, but those kids deserve better. Rarely have I had to remove a coach but when I do most of the kids are so happy to be out from under the rule of an asshole they tend to have a great game after. It's for the kids, us referees have to rise above.
Learn the rules or don't coach
Refs are actually in charge of games. Coaches and fans who think they are, ruin games for kids trying to learn the game.
What's a PK?
It's what the yanks call a penalty... Foolish I know
You mean a "penalty kick"? @@winksongs
Just wondering why the orange team looks like a U16 team playing a U10 team.
"LOOKS" is not much of an observation with any merit. I wonder why you bothered making such comment? Just driven to make a comment?
Why does this happen in soccer?
Football. 🇬🇧👍
Like any of this matters
fun is 99% of comments are from people who don't understand nothing about soccer...
He’s an arrogant fool
Let the kids just play, ban all parents and relatives from watching.
coach shouldnt be allowed to coach children
Come on people, the fate of the free world and all of humanity was riding on the outcome of this peewee soccer game. This is life changing moments and as parents and coaches we need to be outraged at every questionable call or no call. Children's entire life paths are formed here in 60 or 90 minutes on a Saturday! SMH
Sorry jus realized u commented 2years ago. 😂
Only in America😂😂😂
I’m just passing by but I wouldn’t call no one a fool. It’s a terrible word to say and u can go to hell for it I’m just looking out for you cause I want everyone to go to heaven have good day
That's a nice sentiment, however "fool" is a pretty mild word when you consider what words would constitute a more accurate description of Coachy Dearest.
"I wouldn't call no one a fool" literally means you would call someone a fool. I doubt that is what you meant, right?
I'm not going to heaven , i'm going to California :)
This one reason I won’t ref again. Out of control coaches and 2nd out of control parents
Exactly and they wonder why they always need people. One league im in makes a parent from the team ref 1 year because they’re so desperate
The ref was completely right with his call to end the game but he still must award the pen as that is the only way the game would be extended beside stoppages time good job ref
It's been a few years since I reffed soccer, but I think once it's ended it's ended. It's up to the competition authority to decide what to do; they might pick up the game later where they left off, replay it, call it as-is, or say it never happened. One of the interesting quirks of soccer reffing is they never actually say who wins: they just report the score and events and let the league figure it out.
This is totally surprising to me!!! That that many people would show up to watch a soccer game!
Well, there are generally quite a few kids on a team, so that amounts to quite a few parents and siblings. I can guarantee you that the chances of anybody there watching the game who didn't have somebody involved in it is small indeed.
@@russs7574 If i was in the usa , and passing by , i'd watch a game. and then probably volunteer to coach the kids.
refs are to soft.
Theories are not LESS than facts, they are MORE than facts. They are integrated sets of facts.
An (hopefully) integrated set of ideas...
I guess I don't understand how if a coach is so mad over a poor call & he truly feels he's in the right, why doesn't the coach forfeit the game FOR his team right then? Why continue to play a tainted game? If a ref has more game/league tainting forfeits than average, they're going to get scrutiny.
Can't the coach also submit an "official" complaint, complete with details & witnesses, to league or school district officials?
more game/league tainting forfeits than average ....... what do you mean ' more than average? ' . any ref should have a zero under the column ' games called off '. I genuinely do not know of any game being called off. ever.
I was there, the video doesn’t show 1/10th of what was said and done. The ref was as out of line as the coach if not more. Aside from calling a horrible game, he goaded the coach into that reaction, cussing and putting his hands on the coach first. The team in orange was a U14 team playing down in a U13 bracket thanks to clueless tournament organizers. The black team was U12 playing up. 14 yr olds vs. 11 yr olds Some of the kids in orange were 2x the size of the other kids, and 3 yrs older in most cases. The kid that “didn’t even look hurt” got high kicked in the gut by the biggest kid in orange (no PK was given BTW).The coach, who was the closest adult and is allowed to check an injured player, did not react until the ref put his hands on him and cussed at him. The ref was reprimanded as well by the head tournament official. Don’t believe everything you hear and only half of what you see...
1st, all the stuff about the kids ages is irrelevant. As you stated that’s on the organizers. We officiate whoever is on the field. 2nd, if you coach, play or watch sports on any level for long enough your going to run across bad officiating. The lower the level the more often it will happen. Hold your nose and hope for better next time. It is what it is. 3. Jus like a poorly behaving player, coach or parent is no excuse for an official to behave badly, a official acting an ass is no excuse for a coach to behave badly. Report his ass jus like I’m sure he did with the coach. Finally, when your ejected your ejected. PERIOD!!!!!! The asst coach now has all the responsibilities the head coach had before he was shown the door. That includes tending to injured players.
Wow this does change things. Honestly I think the best bet would be not to play in the first place. There is really no reason a youth team should be allowed to play down an age level and a 12 v 14 match is just too dangerous.
The referee is always right. That's footy. Don't like? Don't take part.
What age is this your realygonna complain & get red carded pathetic! Roger Chase
Soccer is the pettiest sport good god.
As a Parent, I would want my kids playing for a coach that values the safety and health of his players more than the win. Good move Coach, see you next year!!!
Whilst the coach should not be acting the way he was acting initially, He does have a duty of care for his players. He might have been "ejected" for speaking his mind but when he comes over to help his injured player you cant then get upset and get into a pushing match and call the game coz the coach came over to look after his player. Such a petty ref
Two things--first, having been ejected, he should not have even been near enough to discern that a player might be injured. Second, he was not the only person who could have cared for an injured player anyway, or do you suppose that there were no other coaches remaining, or no other adults to step in? The coach was a fool who, for his own selfish pride, cost his team the game. There are no mitigating circumstances.
@@cardinalRG Firstly, the area of which an ejected parent or coach should move to is dependent on the park/facility which is being used. That coach could have been in the car park for all we know which could be fine, but it seems like he may have not even got that far and turned and come back. Something I am still not against him doing. Next, yes of course there would be other people who would have a duty of care for the players. There was seemingly no assistant coach so a parent could have stepped in but again, the coach still has a duty of care. I dont care if a coach has been ejected, he still has a right to go help that injured player. Bare in mind the kids are like 9 years old, this isnt top flight football in which you have other staff members on tap ready to go and help. This isn't about, "his own selfish pride" or "cost his team the game", it's about the safety and health of the players. He could have gone and helped that player then went off and allowed someone else to then replace him, coz I think this is all of 2 minutes cut down to 1 minute.
@@Jack-ri6bn -- Every youth sports league I’ve ever known, or participated in, does not leave a team coach-less after an eviction. There is either another coach (or more) who remains, or the game gets ended. _”I dont care if a coach has been ejected, he still has a right to go help that injured player.”_ He does not. _”This isn't about, ‘his own selfish pride’”_ I disagree. I think it’s _precisely_ about that. If the coach were thinking of anyone but himself-namely, the kids-he wouldn’t have acted out and gotten himself ejected in the first place. _”..it's about the safety and health of the players.”_ I think the coach used the excuse of a possibly injured player in order to insinuate himself after an ejection, and try to mend his wounded pride.
@@cardinalRG First off, I am going to stand by the fact that a coach very much has every right to go help that injured player, regardless if they have been ejected . A players health and well being is paramount and takes president over any ejection, game or end result, once that situation has been attended to then the coach can then leave. Too many times, as either a player or head coach, have I had to take things into my own hands for the sake of a player because of a referees inability to stop a game and make an injured player their priority. What a lot of people in this comment section needs to understand is that all those players go on that pitch health and should leave that pitch health. Coaches and referees are both there to help those players. You can think of it however you want, but for me, my players take paramount whether they are 5 years old, 10 years old or 16 years old. If I have an injured player and the referee brushes it off, fails to allow me to come onto the pitch to help or even try to stand in the way of the coach like this ref did then of course Im going to get annoyed and Im not surprised this coach got angry/annoyed as he's being told to leave whilst going to attend to a young player.
@@Jack-ri6bn -- _”… a coach very much has every right to go help that injured player, regardless if they have been ejected.”_ What kind of right are you talking about? If you mean a _legal_ right, then yes, the coach has the legal right to remain on public property. But if you’re arguing that the coach has a right _within league rules,_ so that his team would be protected from forfeit, then you’re wrong. _”A players health and well being is paramount…”_ Yes, but again you’re implying that the ejected coach has to be the one to ensure that health and well-being. He does not. _”Too many times, as either a player or head coach, have I had to take things into my own hands for the sake of a player because of a referees inability to stop a game and make an injured player their priority.”_ Had you been ejected prior to those occurrences? If not, then your experience is not analogous. Were you the only coach on the scene? If not, then likewise your experience is not analogous. _”What a lot of people in this comment section needs to understand is that all those players go on that pitch health and should leave that pitch health.”_ That’s a silly claim to make. I’d venture that everyone commenting here understands that principle, and agrees with it. I certainly do, so you’re projecting a sentiment that I’ve neither expressed, nor do I possess. I’ll repeat this, so please pay attention-I’m arguing that an ejected coach is not exclusively empowered to ensure a player’s well-being. He can think good thoughts while stewing in his car in the parking lot, while other, trustworthy coaches and adults attend to the possibly injured player. _”Coaches and referees are both there to help those players.”_ Correct, but an *_ejected_* coach no longer has a role to play, especially if others are there to help. Please tell me-what unique assistance did the ejected coach in the video render to the player that couldn’t have come from other coaches? Is he an orthopedic surgeon, a sports psychologist, or something else that was irreplicable by anyone else who was there? _”…my players take paramount whether they are 5 years old, 10 years old or 16 years old.”_ Mine too. It’s quite presumptuous of you to imply that I or anyone else feels differently. When my son broke his leg in a youth football game, as I and his mother watched from the stands, we didn’t rush the field-where spectators aren’t allowed--and shove any officials. We let the (non-ejected) coaches and trainers attend to the matter, trusting that we’d be called down if necessary. Now, based on that experience, are you going to claim that we didn’t care about our son’s “health and well-being” above everything else? _”If I have an injured player and the referee brushes it off, fails to allow me to come onto the pitch to help or even try to stand in the way…”_ Again, you’re failing to address the distinction of a coach having been ejected. The video doesn’t show any non-ejected coach being disallowed onto the pitch, or any other non-ejected person prevented from rendering aid. The bottom line is this: the coach had the legal right to violate league rules, and return to the field of play. But the officials had the right, under league rules, to call the game a forfeit. Can we agree that if the coach hadn’t been fool enough to get himself ejected in the first place, then his return to the field wouldn’t be something for us to argue about?
he has duty of care to his players, plus referee can not call time untill the penalty is taken the referee is a a fool .
Once he is ejected for his inappropriate behaviour he is arguably more of a danger to the players especially as there kids. The referee has every right to keep him away from the game and there is absolutely no rule stating that the penalty has to be taken before the referee abandons the game. The referee has the final decision over abandonment.
He was already ejected. Youth soccer federation rules give the referee complete leeway in making that call. It was the correct call.
There was obviously another coach or the game would have been called when he was ejected. An ejected coach must leave the premises. He shouldn't be able to see the field or be seen from the field. Him returning to the field for any reason is grounds to call the game.
If the kid was potentially injured, I don't blame the coach one damn bit, not even for shoving the ref. If there was no chance of the kid being injured, then yeah, the coach was wrong, but the ref was still wrong for calling the game and punishing the kids. It's supposed to be a GAME... the kids are there to have FUN... put the damn egos aside and just let the kids PLAY. This is why I don't bother putting my kids in team sports if they don't want to do it. It's all about authority, obedience, ego and whatever it takes to win.
No, you don't get it. Most leagues have a "out of sight, out of sound" rule when it comes to ejections....meaning that once the coach was tossed, he was required to remove himself to a location where he could neither be seen nor heard from the field, and where he could not watch the game. Therefore, there was no way he should have been in a position to see that kid go down, injured or not. Even if the kid was injured, the fact that the team was allowed to continue playing tells me that team had one (or more) other responsible adults on the sidelines to coach the team and see to the players' welfare. They will be able to take care of anything that happens on the field. There is no need for "leather lungs" to be anywhere near the field post-ejection. I used to umpire Little League and Senior League (that's ages 13-15), and I can tell you it's most often not an ego or authority thing with a ref/ump. (Yes, there are some who come with a Napoleon Complex, but they usually do not have a long shelf life, as leagues soon get tired of their antics.) It's more a matter of the ref reaching his limit on how much verbal abuse he was going to take. The biggest reason for a ref to take a "no tolerance" attitude toward these sorts of antics is that once a coach (or parents) start the verbal abuse of a ref, the players quickly pick up on it, and pretty soon, you've got the players chirping and trying to show up the ref. Again, so what if that idiot coach wasn't around to check on his player? There were other adults running the team who could.
An ejected coach is required to leave the premises. He shouldn't be able to see what's happening on the field or be seen from the field.
@@karlrovey An ejected coach is supposed to follow the rules... obey authority... be a good boy and do what he's told. Fuck the rules, the coach cared about his players.
@@livewire2759 He needs to let his assistant take care of it. If he didn't have an assistant coach, the game would have been called when he was ejected. He either didn't trust his assistant or was using the injury as an excuse to return to the field.
@@karlrovey You're still missing the point. I don't know what the coach did to get ejected in the first place, but I'm guessing he had the "winning is everything" attitude, like most coaches do and argued with a bad call the ref made. The ref is likely a typical authoritarian as most refs are, and he got mad because his authority was challenged, so he threw the coach out of the game. Then the coach came back because one of his kids got injured, and the asshole ref got even more angry about his authority being challenged, so he PUNNISHED THE INNOCENT CHILDREN by calling off the game. The problem is authoritarianism and pride, not rules being broken. The children were punished because two adults couldn't put their egos aside and have a civilized conversation.
Wow, conservative American authoratarianism strikes again.the ref isnt right he put his hands on the coach first. The coach only pushed him away after. Of course all the authority sheeple will side with the ref, looks to me like a man who shouldnt be a ref on a power trip.
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IMHO the ref took his authority a bit too seriously here. The coach was checking up on one of his kids, I would’ve let it pass, it’s not the champions league final…
Let it pass, even after the coach laid his hands on the ref? Take off, hoser.
@@russs7574 don’t act so hysterical
@john Mckinney You clearly don't understand RULES here.
@@chrismoule7242 You mean the rule that you are not allowed to check on a little kid that is injured? Again: apply the rules in the spirit of the game, it’s not a champions league match. The ref got carried away by his authority problem and big ego.
@@john_mckinney No, the rule that requires an ejected coach leave the premises and be out of sight of the field. That's a basic rule across all levels.
The coach was not a fool the speaker was. Young player possibly hurt and only the coach is checking on the poor kid? The coach did the right thing. The parents and other adults did not.
I think the assistant coach is quite capable of checking on the player that got decked. And there had to be at least one additional adult coach on the sideline, or the game would have been forfeited right then. Most youth sports leagues have an "out of sight, out of hearing" rule, meaning that any player, coach or fan that gets ejected is required to leave the area to the point where they cannot be seen or heard on the field. Coach Idiot should not even have been in a position to see that play, let alone come back to the field. What he originally did merited an ejection. What he did after that merits a suspension. I mean really, Biff. What part of "ejected" do you not understand? As a Pirates fan, I recall Jim Leyland getting tossed out of many games. I do not recall him ever coming out of the locker room to "check" on an injured player. I don't recall Earl Weaver ever coming back out of the clubhouse when one of his players would get injured after Weaver was ejected. It's amazing the lengths that people like you go in order to defend the antics of schmucks like this coach.
@@russs7574 As a pirates fan you should also know that Jim Leyland was coaching Adults. He had an entire staff of trainers and medical professionals to check on an injured player. In youth sports there are not teams of medical professionals to check out an injured player. In the video I did not see any other adult checking on a hurt child. Child safety should come first and only. Now I did see the coach lay hands on the ref. He should have been ejected. He came back when he saw an injured player. That was the right thing to do. I also agree that he should then be suspended. That is the appropriate consequence to the series of events. Now returning to the field to administer aid to a child is the correct and moral thing to do - he still should be held accountable for his actions. Do the right and moral thing does not make one immune to logical consequences to oneself. I do however have a problem with calling the game. I do not defend this mans actions (plural). But I do defend the last action of checking on the child. Laying hands on the ref is out of bounds at all levels. But even more at youth level where the ref is little more than a kid himself. And the outcome of the game should be of little concern as compared to the game itself. What I don't get is people like the commenter think that the health of a child has little merit and that the enforcement of god given rules has to be followed. The win must be the final goal and any child that is hurt should rub dirt into it and walk it off.
@@MightyBiffer Leyland had a staff, Biffer, and so do these youth soccer teams. And if this was a tournament (as some other commenter have said), then the organizers are required to have some sort of medical staff on the grounds during the games...at least that's the way it is in Pennsylvania. Most often, it's in the form of an ambulance that stays on-grounds until the last game is over. This bacciagalupe's assistants are just as capable of seeing to their kids' health, safety and well-being. I used to umpire Little League and Senior League, and there wasn't a game where each team did not have a minimum of two other adults in the dugout, and I'm guessing it was the same with this team. Had he been doing the "right thing," he would not have been in position to see what was happening on the field (out of sight, out of hearing, remember?). He was just being a tool.
the refs are the fools
Are you kidding me ?? The referee actually held up one of those silly little cards in the guy's face ???? Seriously ?? C'mon....this is kiddie soccer. Just walk up to him and don't embarrass the guy. Tell him it's time to go. Only AFTER he does not respond to an "adult style" request, do you get authoritative. Your results will be 100 times more productive. When you try and act authoritarian over an adult....it will get ugly most every time. Just manage the situation like an adult. Adults have no clue it seems how to act and manage kiddie sports. Maybe they should not even try to manage it .
The only problem with your idea is 10 times out of 10 the coaches do not respond until you get authoritative with them.
Don't embarrass the guy? Don't you think Coach Idiot did a good enough job of embarrassing himself?