Why Thiago Motta Could Be The Next Elite Manager |

2024 ж. 27 Нау.
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Thiago Motta is one of the rising stars in club management. But how does his Bologna team play?
JJ Bull explains 🧠
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  • That's more Barcelona than Barcelona.

    @sld1776@sld1776Ай бұрын
    • And he was a Barcelona Player

      @vincentkalalo2754@vincentkalalo2754Ай бұрын
    • ​@@vincentkalalo2754and could be the next Barcelona manager

      @risannd@risanndАй бұрын
    • Drinking game: A shot everytime a comment says Barcelona @@risannd

      @flyingaviator8158@flyingaviator8158Ай бұрын
    • Ifkr 😭🙏🏻

      @user-vw2qt8vp8e@user-vw2qt8vp8eАй бұрын
    • @@flyingaviator8158Barcelona

      @LjuboCupic1912@LjuboCupic1912Ай бұрын
  • Actual full backs and actual centre halves. Suddenly we're back to the 1950/60s

    @racerdeth@racerdethАй бұрын
    • A 2-7-2 formation sounds like early to mid 20th century too lol

      @roejogan2693@roejogan2693Ай бұрын
    • Yh, I hate it when people call "central full-backs" centre halves, or "wide half-backs" full backs

      @sumandark8600@sumandark8600Ай бұрын
    • John Stones playing half back for city last season.

      @Groundsey@GroundseyАй бұрын
    • Tactics are cyclical

      @leftenantthunder@leftenantthunderАй бұрын
    • Literally just the WW Hungary used in the 50s lmao time is a flat circle

      @sharkmiiiscool@sharkmiiiscoolАй бұрын
  • "If you have ball, play with it. Pass pass pass." -Pep Goatiola

    @anubixus@anubixusАй бұрын
    • All got that from his GOAT, Cruyff.

      @Supreme-if6bt@Supreme-if6btАй бұрын
  • Thiago Motta: Full back: ❌ FullY back: ✅

    @Bogdan_Petrovic@Bogdan_PetrovicАй бұрын
  • This possession-based system immediately reminds me of Louis van Gaal’s Man United. You know, where the game usually ended up with a scoreline of 0-0, and 1-0 if they managed to won. Making the whole stadium sleep in the process. Theatre of Dreams indeed 😂

    @josephnus@josephnus28 күн бұрын
  • *Takes notes for next FM save*

    @flapackfez@flapackfezАй бұрын
    • Two inverted fullbacks with two liberos coming right up!

      @devongiguere3721@devongiguere3721Ай бұрын
    • not really possible

      @ferreisd495@ferreisd495Ай бұрын
    • @@ferreisd495dude above you quite literally described it. Two liberos and two inverted full backs. It actually makes alot of sense.

      @milagomez55@milagomez55Ай бұрын
    • @@milagomez55nah its just not going to be the meta in the game

      @ferreisd495@ferreisd495Ай бұрын
    • you can do it but you’ll get no wins

      @ferreisd495@ferreisd495Ай бұрын
  • Here in Italy have been aware of Motta's tactics for a long time as he actually introduced it when he was in charge of PSG U19's. I still remember pundits here superficially understanding it and actually setting it up like you did at the beginning of the video, and then proceeding to laugh at him like he was some sort of a madman. That was six years ago, and look how far he has come.

    @recruitmentch@recruitmentchАй бұрын
    • Pundits were making idiotic comments about the supposed 2-7-2 formation. I'm happy Motta silenced them. You could see he was a good manager since his Spezia stint but what he's doing at Bologna is phenomenal

      @kakal10s@kakal10sАй бұрын
  • "If the opponent doesnt have the ball, they cant score" Harry maguire: "are you sure about that"

    @Giman_iets@Giman_ietsАй бұрын
    • Are we back in 2021/22 when this was even slightly relevant?

      @MrBaronCabron@MrBaronCabronАй бұрын
    • ​@@MrBaronCabronhes gonna give them the ball

      @ahmedaden789@ahmedaden789Ай бұрын
  • Fun fact Motta was one of Arteta's roomates at La Masia and Arteta signed one of Motta's ex players in Kiwior

    @hegeliandianetik2009@hegeliandianetik2009Ай бұрын
  • It looks like that Barça are good at producing tacticians too. Pep, Arteta, Xavi and Motta. And the interesting thing is that all the new tactical mangers used to play in midfield and were very technical. Arteta, Xavi, Motta, Alonso, De Zerbi and Fabregas. Jorginho, Xhaka, Thiago, Fernandinho, Busquets, Henderson etc. can become mangers if this trend continues.

    @NorthLondonForeverCOYG@NorthLondonForeverCOYGАй бұрын
    • Yeah, defensive midfielders tend to succeed more as managers imo since they're already a kind of "manager on the pitch", orchestrating play both with and without the ball

      @zeybarur@zeybarurАй бұрын
    • Fergie was a forward I guess any position on the pitch creates different styles of play

      @radamell3216@radamell3216Ай бұрын
    • How did you squeeze in Fabregas who hasn't yet had a minute as a first team coach and not Zidane and Ancelotti who were two of the best midfielders of their generation??

      @M..n..M@M..n..MАй бұрын
    • Lampard...

      @zaiffulgani145@zaiffulgani145Ай бұрын
    • ​@@zaiffulgani145 a lot of ppl give lampard slate for his poor Chelsea performances, but he was decent with Derby and the first season of no hazard he got them ucl football soooo He's not a bad manager but he's not a big club level one

      @arnavm7383@arnavm7383Ай бұрын
  • Makes sense given he was in the Barcelona youth team.

    @diulikadikaday@diulikadikadayАй бұрын
  • Sounds like Johan Cruijf

    @yannickegberink3234@yannickegberink3234Ай бұрын
    • Well not fully but I get people have this thought that curyffian football is all about possession

      @bilal__edits.@bilal__edits.Ай бұрын
    • Correct if I'm wrong, but the quote "if they don't have the ball, they can't attack" is actually from Johan Cruyff.

      @Morethanaclube@MorethanaclubeАй бұрын
    • @@Morethanaclube yes but cryuff also said it's better to win 4-3 than winning 1-0

      @bilal__edits.@bilal__edits.Ай бұрын
  • Literally my FIFA tactics.

    @cammoore___@cammoore___Ай бұрын
    • share your tactics

      @flealove@flealoveАй бұрын
  • It always excites me when good players work up the ladder and become good managers

    @willmacky2629@willmacky2629Ай бұрын
  • Reminds me a great deal of City’s approach at the beginning of the season. The game against West Ham really stuck in my mind because of how the fullbacks formed a square in the center of the pitch with the CBs and I haven’t seen City dominate a match quite like that before. Was honestly surprised to see them toss it aside after the first few games because wow was it effective.

    @isahamilton01@isahamilton01Ай бұрын
  • modern football managers nowadays are scary man. we have Arteta, Alonso and Motta all playing with their own philosophy and thrive. the future is exciting.

    @rayplaylist@rayplaylistАй бұрын
  • So he actually makes sidebacks the full-backs

    @arijitdas31@arijitdas31Ай бұрын
  • Bro uses tiki taka to get same result as Mourinho's defensive tactics

    @fishyfish6510@fishyfish6510Ай бұрын
    • Lol

      @AkshatJha457@AkshatJha45722 күн бұрын
  • Was listening to the Athletic podcast about him yesterday. It was fascinating.

    @BaldursPicketFence@BaldursPicketFenceАй бұрын
  • 0-11-0 narrow🔥

    @kristofferapneseth@kristofferapnesethАй бұрын
    • Gonna win the sextuple with this one 🔥🔥

      @AkshatJha457@AkshatJha45722 күн бұрын
  • Obviously easy to win if your 2-7-2 has an extra player compared to 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 😢

    @_Amit_Sunil@_Amit_SunilАй бұрын
    • Including the goalkeeper

      @user-wi8tw9mh6h@user-wi8tw9mh6hАй бұрын
    • Todd Bohley is furious his 4-4-3 was struck down

      @zeybarur@zeybarurАй бұрын
    • @@zeybarurfr

      @awuraama7185@awuraama7185Ай бұрын
    • Bro didn't watch the whole video

      @lefay7637@lefay7637Ай бұрын
  • Fascinating. I’d love to see an episode on coaches and teams employing ‘out of the ordinary’ tactics. Bologna obviously is a shoe in but there’s a good few other candidates!

    @geordiedog1749@geordiedog174920 күн бұрын
  • I hope he gets to implement this at a team like Barcelona or PSG.

    @nigelbhebhe2805@nigelbhebhe280520 күн бұрын
  • It might be my heathen English brain but that sounds absolutely dreadful, shuffling the ball around the back all game

    @tonilando@tonilandoАй бұрын
    • No, you should definitely watch some of their games. That style of play allows them to create some big chances, and they have some quality players (like zirkzee or Orsolini) that create other chances completely on their own

      @marcellobernardifraile700@marcellobernardifraile700Ай бұрын
    • I agree, that sounded like LVG's United. Even Brighton are a bit boring to watch when the ball is with Dunk %90 of the time

      @UnKnowmanNumber2@UnKnowmanNumber2Ай бұрын
    • Because it is. This channel is for those who think they are smarter than the average fan as they don't realize most tactics are just reshuffled.

      @john-tr8jy@john-tr8jyАй бұрын
    • ​@john-tr8jy And you happen to know how? Because you obviously have never watched a Bologna game 😂😂😂

      @angelat7957@angelat795727 күн бұрын
  • Disasi prove him wrong by saying if the opposition don’t have the ball they can’t score 😂

    @Speng4lyfe@Speng4lyfeАй бұрын
  • Mourinho proved that theory wrong

    @SanusiAdewale@SanusiAdewaleАй бұрын
    • What did he say

      @marchelomanchev5317@marchelomanchev5317Ай бұрын
    • Without Mourinho, Roma perished today.

      @MatheusFernandes-xf4zm@MatheusFernandes-xf4zm28 күн бұрын
    • ​@@MatheusFernandes-xf4zmRoma perished with Mourinho, too. We beat them 2 - 0 last December.

      @angelat7957@angelat795727 күн бұрын
  • Someone said the best defense is having the possession because if the opponent doesn't have the ball they can't score. But the other side said, the team with the possession have the bigger chances of losing the ball. This is how possession football vs effective counter football being described.

    @mhqqiqin_@mhqqiqin_Ай бұрын
  • If you have the ball, your opponent can‘t score. Cristoph Kramer: Hold my beer

    @scforever9592@scforever9592Ай бұрын
  • Him and Xabi are unexpectedly doing good and I hope Thiago joins Barca Maybe that’s what we needed

    @summer7945@summer7945Ай бұрын
  • Thiago Motta, do we see that midfielders make the managers/coaches 😮

    @raglifetv9@raglifetv9Ай бұрын
  • JJ Bull 😻

    @michaelmlamar8321@michaelmlamar8321Ай бұрын
  • I remember seeing when he first proposed this when he started coaching youth teams and many laughed

    @ahmedibrahim1820@ahmedibrahim1820Ай бұрын
  • I’d love to see a full on gegenpressing team like City or Liverpool play them. Be really interesting!

    @geordiedog1749@geordiedog174920 күн бұрын
  • That's basically the barcelona philosophy but more extreme.

    @arlo6513@arlo6513Ай бұрын
  • They called me a madman

    @ayanmishra2186@ayanmishra2186Ай бұрын
  • Lewis Ferguson absolutely smashing it out there

    @joshmore7175@joshmore7175Ай бұрын
  • We always knew about his 2 7 2 formation

    @Ali-fb5km@Ali-fb5kmАй бұрын
  • Vittorio Pozzo did it first actually and he won 2 world cups with Italy in 1934 and 1938 with this tactic

    @rakibulhaque4392@rakibulhaque4392Ай бұрын
  • I remember his 272 formation from. His older clubs where it flopped

    @akunwanneprosper7016@akunwanneprosper701627 күн бұрын
  • For those who didn't know. Thiago motta is La masia product. The real Barca DNA

    @SadmanJawad-xn1de@SadmanJawad-xn1deАй бұрын
  • Leave it to JJ to explain us well in a fun way!❤️‍🔥

    @leonmeyers7009@leonmeyers7009Ай бұрын
  • This speaks to that old thing of defensive possession, which in more recent times Barca played into, scoring lots of goals but having a high minutes per goal number.

    @sEaNoYeAh@sEaNoYeAhАй бұрын
  • "if you don't have the ball you can't score" JAPAN

    @theghostgang-hb2gx@theghostgang-hb2gxАй бұрын
  • This is the reason barca wants him

    @archismanchakraborty7395@archismanchakraborty7395Ай бұрын
  • Another pep... What happened to the game I love

    @uptheblues1875@uptheblues1875Ай бұрын
  • Thiago Motta as next Bayern Coach

    @obit7516@obit7516Ай бұрын
  • pepification of football is boring, utd v liverpool was the most exciting game of 2024, proper end to end stuff, no hipster formations or stifling tactics

    @keagann8255@keagann8255Ай бұрын
    • It won't be boring once everyone does it. It'll become unpredictable

      @silviod4nte@silviod4nteАй бұрын
    • Yeah bro. It can turn into msnager chaos 😮😅 lol. Everyone finding new ways and tactics to counter eachother and then..... Jurgen Klopp comes in with his Heavy metal Football​@@silviod4nte

      @ashfaqsheikh3134@ashfaqsheikh3134Ай бұрын
    • @@silviod4nte it will be even more boring.

      @jgmediting7770@jgmediting777026 күн бұрын
  • It's because this oscar meyer team signed me in FIFA

    @ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici@ViVeriVniversvmVivusViciАй бұрын
  • Simeone and Mourinho are puking seeing this tactic

    @johnalbertrocafort2873@johnalbertrocafort2873Ай бұрын
  • Motta has been playing a 4-1-4-1 though

    @hommofroggy5727@hommofroggy5727Ай бұрын
  • Lewis Ferguson has been amazing for Bologna

    @callumcruickshank5236@callumcruickshank5236Ай бұрын
  • Loving all the snotty comments about how possession football is boring, robotic, '50s football 😂😂😂 Meanwhile we're having the time of our lives over here, because Thiago's brand of football is SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL. ❤ Cheers from Bologna ❤💙

    @angelat7957@angelat795727 күн бұрын
  • Zirkzee is heading to a big club again soon mark my words

    @acco5038@acco5038Ай бұрын
  • Full backs that are actually fully back 😂

    @joyhorta8051@joyhorta8051Ай бұрын
  • Well bologna will probably even get to the champions league considering juventus's form. Thiago motta's an excellent manager

    @giovanji7883@giovanji7883Ай бұрын
    • Bologna are currently 4th, which is the last Champions League spot. So, it's more up to Roma and Atalanta to follow them than to them to be above Juve

      @kakal10s@kakal10sАй бұрын
  • With Lewis Ferguson rocking it 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    @dangoodwin5295@dangoodwin5295Ай бұрын
  • I look forward to when possession football falls out of favour, makes football so robotic

    @nintendogamer4703@nintendogamer4703Ай бұрын
    • By definition that won’t happen. You have the ball, you can’t concede. Possession is ultimately only advantageous, there’s no strategy what would make it more advantageous to not have the ball

      @dustinmartin6524@dustinmartin6524Ай бұрын
    • @@dustinmartin6524 that seemed to be the way of it when the Dutch national team and Ajax were so dominant. I'm sure many other teams attempted to take on the craft. And then again, with its brief resurgence with the Barca and Ajax UCL winning teams of the 90's. But there will be someone who comes in to negate the tactic, in such a perfect manner, that it becomes redundant. Dominant counter attacking sides, playing direct football. Yes, naturally a dominant side will have more possession, but it won't be the main tool in the box as it is now

      @nintendogamer4703@nintendogamer4703Ай бұрын
    • Honestly like Pep's City have to be the most boring team to ever win the champions league.

      @vujhvjvgvfujk9888@vujhvjvgvfujk9888Ай бұрын
    • @@vujhvjvgvfujk9888 saying this like they didn’t put on one of the greatest performances of all time against Madrid in the semis is crazy

      @dustinmartin6524@dustinmartin6524Ай бұрын
  • Did you know Unai Emery may lead Aston Villa to the Champions League too?

    @Derlei@DerleiАй бұрын
  • Pep does that too lol

    @saqib7965@saqib7965Ай бұрын
  • This just some full on crujff stuff

    @wesleytanner1125@wesleytanner1125Ай бұрын
  • I knew it cause this is thr hot topic...almost like its beeb pushed on the athletic

    @bluecheese20401@bluecheese20401Ай бұрын
  • This is just the WW Hungary used in the 50s lmao time is a flat circle

    @sharkmiiiscool@sharkmiiiscoolАй бұрын
  • Would Motta not be the ideal Klopp replacement (now that Alonso is staying)?

    @canonogic@canonogicАй бұрын
  • All comes back to Cruyff!

    @Supreme-if6bt@Supreme-if6btАй бұрын
  • Thiago motta hasnt come up against west ham yet. We only need 4% possession to score 3 goals

    @gorilliam@gorilliamАй бұрын
  • Thiago motta seems like another pep regen

    @quanicybynoe8628@quanicybynoe8628Ай бұрын
  • What happened to de zerbi tactics

    @preciousmichael9506@preciousmichael9506Ай бұрын
  • Disagree with the last part, look at the Spurs Newcastle match possession! 😂

    @chrispoynter3297@chrispoynter329727 күн бұрын
  • i am pretty sure he is coming to barca if xavi leaves

    @FejiroUmukoroO.B.E.@FejiroUmukoroO.B.E.Ай бұрын
  • It would work if you could score 😅 by kicking the ball into touch 😂

    @alexmarques4432@alexmarques4432Ай бұрын
  • yeah yeah this is all probably true but im gonna choose to believe its because joshua zirkzee is the best player in the world

    @Name12343@Name12343Ай бұрын
  • Seems like that might be a bit outdated now compared to what a lot of elite sides are doing. More 2008-2014 kind of football

    @Combatwombat-sn7ng@Combatwombat-sn7ngАй бұрын
  • So there's my question.....would this tactic work in FM???

    @wain___614@wain___61429 күн бұрын
  • Louis Van Gaal 👀

    @devangbhanushali1828@devangbhanushali1828Ай бұрын
  • Interesting

    @adhammp6885@adhammp6885Ай бұрын
  • Brendon Rodgers’s does the same thing it’s called death by football. Pass pass pass never letting them have the ball and win 1-0 nothing fancy

    @alecbenson7549@alecbenson7549Ай бұрын
    • You clearly haven’t watched Bologna this season have you

      @BenFC_189@BenFC_189Ай бұрын
    • @@BenFC_189 I’ve been watching bologna since Destro was their top scorer

      @alecbenson7549@alecbenson7549Ай бұрын
  • Sounds like LVG, some of the most boring football I have ever had the displeasure to watch. Possession for possessions sake.

    @celtic69@celtic69Ай бұрын
  • Get him to Juve

    @ditik2795@ditik2795Ай бұрын
  • Possession is a dead stat in the modern age. We beat City at the Molineux with dead numbers and tbh they deserved to lose

    @Luis-kv8zc@Luis-kv8zcАй бұрын
  • Sounds like a future Brighton manager to me 😂

    @baljeetheer3147@baljeetheer3147Ай бұрын
  • not if de rossi has anything to say about it

    @kennytaylor3027@kennytaylor3027Ай бұрын
  • There's nothing particularly "elite" about reading formations sideways for no reason, and there's certainly nothing interesting about playing possession these days. It's one of the most unoriginal ways to play now. Their fullbacks aren't even really fullbacks so it's just making things sound different without actually being innovative. Posch is 6'2" and can't cross so... he's a centre back who wasn't good enough to be a centre back? If you give up attacking power by keeping the ball because "the opponent can't score if they don't have it", just look at Chelsea since about halfway through Tuchel's stint in charge 😂 he's just another boring, regressive "progressive" defensive keepball coach.

    @RL-@RL-Ай бұрын
  • Formations are stupid

    @adidevchafle@adidevchafleАй бұрын
  • Is this new? No, no it is not.

    @jpeps_8842@jpeps_8842Ай бұрын
  • 😅what

    @mdarhaan2439@mdarhaan2439Ай бұрын
  • No he won't be

    @Wonderscope1@Wonderscope1Ай бұрын
  • Boring. Football is supposed to entertain.

    @jgmediting7770@jgmediting777026 күн бұрын
  • Sounds like boring ahh football

    @xaviersantos1504@xaviersantos1504Ай бұрын
    • Watch them before u comment this is the problem with the modern fan they comment on stuff they haven’t seen

      @BenFC_189@BenFC_189Ай бұрын
  • sounds awful. haven't watched them tho

    @the.brokenhand@the.brokenhandАй бұрын
    • Yeah watch them before u jump to conclusions it’s really effective

      @BenFC_189@BenFC_189Ай бұрын
    • @@BenFC_189 I don’t want effective football.

      @jgmediting7770@jgmediting777026 күн бұрын
    • Well to bad then,entertaining football doesn't win you leagues​@@jgmediting7770

      @Aledjdjsk@Aledjdjsk4 күн бұрын
  • Sounds awful

    @coquio@coquio23 күн бұрын
  • Full bakcs are "fully back". Nice one mate. 😂😂😂

    @MyManUtd101@MyManUtd101Ай бұрын
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