Making a BT50 Tool Holder for SIP Jig Borer Tooling! | Shop Made Tools
Some serious metal removal to transform this scrap piece of material into a shop made BT50 tool holder for our SIP jig borer tooling! In this video we are making a custom BT50 tool holder to suit all of our bigger SIP hydroptic jig borer tooling but mainly so we can use our Wohlhaupter boring and facing head which has a SIP jig borer arbor. The SIP machines have a very unique spindle and all of the jig borer tools have a matching arbour and drive collet to suit it, but that means we can’t use any of the SIP tools in our conventional milling machines…until now! In this video we show the step-by-step process of turning a scrap piece of 4140 round bar into a new BT50 adapter. First, we setup the angle of the lathe compound to match a standard BT50 arbour before rough machining the OD of the round bar. We then drill and tap a hole to suit the drawer bar bolt of the mill before machining the BT50 taper. We then have to setup the angle of the lathe compound to suit the jig borer tooling before machining the taper on the other end of our material and then counter boring that to suit the collar on the jig borer tooling. Next, we use the milling machine to mill out the square for the drive in the tooling and mill out slots for the drive dogs to suit the spindle before finishing off turning the OD to size between centres in the lathe. We test the new shop made BT50 tool holder with our Wohlhaupter UPA-5 SIP boring and facing head before installing it on our BT50 Zayer 3500 bed-style milling machine!
In this video we are using:
- Hafco TM-26120G Centre Lathe
- Hafco BM-63VE Milling machine
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absolutely love the work you did for that impressive machine and massive congratulations on the tools that go with it and congratulations on the deal with the gentleman in canada who had some of the other pieces for that machine
Good job the Butcher bird doesn't copy speech or you might have to gag it
Crazy 😮 well done Kurtis that came up awesome.. Also.... WTaF, I didn't know butcher birds could mimic other birds!? 😮 *runs to back yard to try it out*
It’s that time again! Whoop whoop!! 🥳🥳🥳
When showing how to set up the compound to cut the taper it would have been good to stress the importance of having the indicator set exactly on the centerline height. Edit: you mention this in the next taper measurement. Thanks
No drawings, no plans, "I just know what I want at the end of it." Curtis, you're not a machinist, you're an artist! Can't wait to see the finished product! 🙂
i have to agree, Kurtis is an absolute maestro when it comes to making parts for his machines, like Michaelangelo but with metal
He's an excellent machinist, but All machinists make their own tools when needed.
I agree
Another magnificent video ❤
Curtis is about the most talented "general machinist" I have seen in some 45 years. He can do in one day one would've taken me two weeks and the result is way better, too.
Love how Karen keeps the audio from the real time shot but switches the video to the sped up shot so it keeps the audio from rising in pitch. Little details like that make this channel absolute amazing production. How do people still watch cable television with stuff like this available?
you mean people actually still do watch cable TV!?
I agree. She really pays attention to details, and it becomes evident when you watch these videos a second and third time - such as a playlist. Love how she checks in with the Safety Officer at the start of the day to get the story going.
I think Karen went an editing school.@@zaineridling
They don’t, at least I don’t. I have expanded my range of interests, just by watching KZhead. It’s actually how I got into machining as a hobby - an expensive hobby.
I haven't watched TV for 10 years now lol
The fact that both local and international viewers are taking time to look out for tooling for you, is testament to your craftsmanship and quality of work. Both you and Karen should be very proud of the content you produce. Great video as always.
Dude don't diminish your talent. You are both the theorist and the practitioner. All your designs are in your head in great detail. You are an extremely intelligent and talented guy; it feeds our souls just to watch you. Thank you.
Kurt is an expert 3D thinker. CAD-CAM allows average engineers to fake it but the real deal works it out in his head.
Thank you to the gentlemen who set Curtis up with all the nice tooling and cabinets Very nice score Curtis.
I love the useful practical design by SIP. It's made with so much love to detail!
It's lovely to see all that max precision tooling show up without a speck of rust. Someone loved those elderly masterpieces very much. I just hope the climate of Kurt's Oz, will allow them to live on in such pristine condition. Just pointing a camera at steel down there, will add a slight orange sheen!
@@gregedmand9939...you're probably right- but Curtis seems to do all right...
...it found a good home...
Kurtis not Curtis. Lol. I agree with you though.
When you're not line boring, making new hydraulic cylinders and taking on customer odd jobs, you're rebuilding a crane from top to bottom and making custom shop tools. That goes beyond mastery, and shows real ownership of your profession. Thanks for the video and have a great weekend.
A true master makes their own tools..
I'm an automotive mechanic, and have been for many years. I'm more than pretty good at what I do, but to see the knowledge and skill you have to do a job like this, is just amazing to me! It's a pleasure to watch you use your skills. I find the precision very relaxing!
It's nice when you can come to work everyday and love what you do. You're one of the best machinist I've seen and I love how take enormous pride in your work
I love how he starts with an image in his head, and is able to turn that image into a perfect tool. No blue prints, no computer, just a man, a machine and pure skill. I love watching these video's where he manufactures something out of nothing and gets it perfect. Brilliant, bloody brilliant! Keep 'em coming Kurtis, These video's are the highlights of my Thursday evenings. (Crazy Canuck)
Curtis' efficiency in cuts is off the charts. I can only _dream_ of being that confident in fabricating from greyprints, I've gotta at least sketch that stuff out or I'll bugger it up for sure.
@@masondegaulle5731 I’m totally hooked, could watch one every day. Like the guy making wooden wheels. Pure skill and professionalism.
It's truly a really really impressive skill. It's one of those things that experts make look so easy / obvious but then you go try and do it yourself you find it's almost impossible. Whenever I try to "just wing" a project without planning anything I end up frustrated with a huge mess.
i agree, and all the blueprints and drawings are in the Rolodex in Kurtis’ head
Uhhh anyone can do that, I can start with an image of metal scrap in my head, and turn absolutely any project I touch into it.
I really love how he just pulls a random piece of stock from the bins and makes this. Freaking beautiful.
He did not pull a random piece of stock from the cutoffs bin, he pulled the piece that had the part inside it.
Loved the fact you pulled the bar to use from scrap cutoff bin. Everyone here makes fun of me for having a rack with cutoff bits. Great video Karen.
Always love the bloopers "F#@& off train" Nice work Curtis as always
First minutes are pure toolgasm.
haha this comment is spot on
The merch at the end reminded me - My son recently presented me with a CEE T-shirt for father's day. I put it on and said to him "now I'm dressed for success"! The look on his face was priceless. Speaking of priceless, that would be one way to describe your efforts today. As always, thank you K, K and H 👍
Oh that's really awesome hope you liked the T-shirt and keep on enjoying the videos mate!
That angle trick was MAGIC! Thanks, saved me some head scratching!!
Massive shoutout to Karen! I've been bingeing the channel and I've noticed the videography and editing has gone from very good to stellar! If you can just keep muggins on script...😂 What a team!
It is wonderful to see someone working who actually has a clue, I love to see you thriving and improving the business too.
hey mate thanks for the generously kind words we appreciate the support
Easily one of my favorite videos so far. I have barely been around lathes and couldn't quite figure out how to get that taper. Really didn't think it was that easy. Love watching you make shop tools!
Hey mate glad you enjoyed this one!
Seriously mate, to be able to produce something like that without so much as a sketch, you aren't just a dang good machinist Kurtis, you've got the mind's eye of an artist.
As a design engineer, watching Curtis create this part from just a mental image is very impressive. There are very few machinists, tool and die guys, or journeyman millwrights who can pull this off.
Kurtis This is an incredibly intricate job which you made look easy. As a 70 year old applied Australian mathematician who has worked in defence contexts I have been exposed to machinists and mate - you are friggin up there! I know that when JPL wants stuff machined it is like a PhD thesis. I am sitting re-egineering the geometry of what you do works (and it does) and you just do it like a magician. There is Japenese guy Airbus used for a critical part and the final dimensions he did on a lathe by sound ie frequency analysis. There is a KZhead video on it. I did a Fourier analysis at a theoretical level of what type of frequencies he was picking up as I didn’t believe they were within normal human frequency response for the resolution he needed but they were. Amazing. Mate when that Yorkshire welderfabber Baz rates you, you have made it believe me. You know that if I am up your way it will be a canathon of epic proportions!
If you could ever find the KZhead of that Japanese cat, I would like to see it and I'm guessing others would as well!
wow - you not only repair massive earth moving machines but you fabricate parts and you're also a tool maker too which is a special art all in itself. There aren't many people good enough to make shop working tools but you handled it like a Pro - we were already well impressed with your knowledge of all things engineering but you have talents to spare - awesome work Curtis - and as always brilliant filming and editing too from Karen. Homie looks ace in his new Hi-Viz!
Kurtis is a pro. 😊
AMEN @@teeanahera8949
And don’t forget a crane diesel mechanic.
That bird's call kind of sounds like a tūī. Great machining, I love watching you work.
To us laymen viewers this was a very complex bit of turning and fitting. You are an artist. I like how you keep your work area clear and clean of swarf at the end of each work day. Thanks for the time it takes Karen to create each posting. She's a gem.
What a great selection of tooling. Well worth the big drive! Great job on the thingo adapter. Who knew that was hiding out in your off cut rack? Can’t wait to see the new mill in action. Karen you are an editing genius!
Love these “shop made tool” videos. It’s so satisfying to see a piece of 4140 go from a unused chunk of metal to a beautifully machined piece of equipment. Another fantastic vid
The tooling you got for the jig borer was amazingly beautiful! My jaw was on the floor, you REALLY lucked out with that find, not a spec of rust, awesome find, pristine machine tooling, making a find like that is still a dream of mine lol...
Kurtis, I have never seen such precision and accurate machining in 45 years of working. I started working in the glass mirror business when I was 13 but over the years I’ve kind of become a jack of all trades master of none. I very much enjoy all your videos and all the fine work that you do at cutting edge engineering. Keep up the great work!!
But get the job done
“Jack of all trades” always suggests bodgery. In reality, you will find “out of the box” ways to get things done that (most) experts never think of.
Best machinist channel on KZhead.....Period.
Good morning CEE team, weekly greetings from Belgium. Nice to see how your toolbox of your SIP get more and more complete. As my grandfather told & taught me, if the tool or accessory is to expensive and you can build it, build it yourself. Again a demonstration of Curtis' craftsmanship, .for winging it, it's super well done. Have a great weekend CEE team.
Just beautiful! Not only the workpiece but also the camera work, the video cut, audio and timelaps magic, the explanation... Just soo nice to watch!
Interesting details from the closeups, great editing
Куртис как волшебник,сказал мне это надо ,пожалуйста, получилась отличная вещь. А набор инструментов,это вообще -не сбыточная мечта многих.... Съемка и монтаж ролика на высоте, приятно смотреть.
I cant stress enough how much i do enjoy watching your videos and they release just in time for my breakfast break at work :D
Glad you like them!
Same here from the UK. In Spain today and watching it. Make a tool with the tools you have day. ❤
Gday Kurtis and Karen, that’s a awesome collection of tooling for the Sip and the arbor finished out spot on, the Zayer looks a solid rigid machine and keen to see in in action, the butcher birds sound incredible with all the different impersonations, bloody clever birds, awesome job as always, have a great weekend, cheers
Hey Matty! That tooling sure is beautiful, we'll have to do a video showing exactly what we got. Now we've got your video to go watch! Chat soon 👍
So great that you are giving these machines new life. I am one who believes machines have a soul and should be respected.
Wow!!! What a beautiful collection! And something about wooden tool boxes ❤
What a massive haul of tooling! So excited for you!
thank you! We were very excited about it as well
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Unbelievable! Hello from Anstead with my little 1963 Colchester Student
It's a super cool score and doesn't even look used well done, homeless acting like a crock in the mailroom
Beautiful work as always, and the Nitride will make it look really good. That's quite a repertoire the Butcher Bird has, and definitely nicer than Cockatoos and Crows!!! Ps. when Kurtis showed all that tooling it really took my breath away!
Just a little while before the one of the birds learns to say "Fuck off train"
@@andyca15 Or when Kurtis says "fuck oof bird", the Butcher will repeat it just to mock him.
What a treasure trove of Swiss and German tooling! Beautiful adapter to utilize all the new kit. Yet another wonderful video. Great work Team CEE!
Just picked up the Banana mystery box, will be showing it off to my shop mates! Greetings from Canada
hahaha brilliant! I think you grabbed one of the last ones we will get the posted out to you asap and thanks for all your support mate 😎👊
Karl, I was thinking " why's the adapter so long?" and you anticipated it!! Always great , clear, logical explanations for everything you do. Hope you all have a great weekend 👍
Karl! I keep forgetting to use Kurtis’ real name. 😂
0:01 I love how you can store drops, and expansive bits of steel outdoors. and no-one steal them!! ... Must be a good area!!
Great job Kurtis. Really enjoyed the machining, would love to see that Zayer getting serious.
You get a sense of the care and precision with how this piece is machined when it's rotating on the lathe and then the lathe slows and stops but the reflection on the material never changes. Kurtis is an absolute artist.
Once again an impressive display of your skills, both from Kurtis in production and from Karen in filming and editing. The anticipation for Friday was once again not disappointed. Have a great weekend😊!
Near the end, I thought that was the shop's Franna for a second. Neat editing with the occasional side-by-side view.
That SIP tooling you got was a complete score! (Money aside obviously, as I bet it wasn’t cheap). I can’t wait to see you use the SIP more. Thanks, from the UK.
Талант не пропьёш и не продашь он либо есть либо нет молодец Куртис завидую всегда тем кто умеет работать руками и головой и может свою фантазию воспроизвести на материал. ❤
Karen, when are you going to do a video on how you do your videos and editing? You know, give Kurtis a break. We are all wondering how the master video editor does her magic!!! Just an idea.
I keep forgetting about it! 😭 To me it's just my "job" so I forget others might be interested to hear about it, but I'll have to do that soon!
+1 for that one! I would love to have a look how the magic happens. What gear, what software, how the editing is done. You do such an amazing job, please share some details on your side of the camera too PLEEEEEAAASEEE!!
Get Curtis on the camera filming Karen, Role reversal,
OMG you scored with that tooling! That’s frigging awesome!!
Love the highvis…on the dog 😂
Awesome tooling work mate. I used to love working with 4140. That tooling score looked awesome! That was well worth the 13 hour drive! George sure sings perty! Very relaxing actually. Have an awesome weekend guys.
Hey mate! It's great to see that you enjoyed our video about the shop made tool, definitely agree 4140 is great to work with...anything as long as it's not stainless steel 😂👍 Your Super Thanks is a huge validation of our work, and it motivates us to keep making videos that you'll enjoy so thanks again for your support mate! Cheers
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering. Is that pre hard 4140?
I learn so much from your videos! I loved your technique of finding the angle of taper using a dial indicator. I used to machine stellite, we machine down the part, then tig weld the stellite back onto the part, then machine it back to the original specs. In high pressure steam power plants, the high pressure steam could actually cut channels through the stellite, causing leaks when the valve was closed. Stellite is one of the hardest austenetic alloys and actually retaines it's hardness even while red hot. It's a real bitch to weld cuz if you don't pre-heat it properly it will crack and then you have to start all over again.
Kurtis, love watching your content. Thanks for what you do from Arlington, Virginia, USA.
Again from a scrap piece to a beautiful tool adapter absolutely love all the videos I liked how you said no drawings or plans 😁 amazing kind regards from Scotland 🏴 🏴❤️❤️
Thank you guys for making another fantastic video. Its been a real pleasure watching the variety of work being carried out on the mill and lathe and repairing the crane instead of just the bread and butter cylinder remanufacture/ repair. Those birds are certainly part of your channel now. Great you interact with all the animals as well. Kurtis certainly hit the jackpot with the SIP tooling he managed to aquire. Thanks again. Andy
That adapter is a seriously beautiful work of art!
Der Mann mit dem Plan! Er kann wirklich alles! Viele liebe Grüße aus Deutschland nach Down Under.👍❤️🖖🔧🔨
I love how your little piggy knew what was in the package and the high vis jacket is cute. 😂
Какой вы молодец! Наблюдать за Вашей работой доставляет огромное удовольствие. Ва настоящий мастер и профессионал своего дела!
I really enjoyed that vid. I have 0% machining experience but Kurtis' explanation of how to machine complex shapes like that was brilliant
I just love those long conical pieces of swarf when you use those big drill bits. I don't know why but when Kurtis switched over to the milling portion I was nervous, especially when he had to use the V-block. And of course the cutest potato in the world, Homey, stole the show!
Karen, This kurtis fella might be a keeper, He is right smart 😉 👍🏻 Nice job both of you 👏 magpies ❤
That moment when you have to make a tool to make the tool so you can use the tool you bought to do the job, love it hahaha.
HAHA I said to Kurtis it's "Toolception" 😂👍
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Hahahaha!
Amazing, learning so many tricks in just one video! And that's not just a frisbee, but also a rabbit. Throw the frisbee on edge and it will roll, skip and bounce along the ground, making the chase even more exciting.
Fixing customers' issues, repairing a crane, making tools for your own use, and yet you still take time to spend with the menagerie that hangs around the workshop. Only a little thing, but it shows how life can be lived - we all need to take time out for those little things! Thanks again, and enjoy your weekend...
That is an awesome "get". Power of the community. I love the "let me use my existing tools to make an adaptor so I can use the new tools".
Hey Kurtis and Karen. These new tools are absolutely crazy... so nice sorted in the cabinets... i love to see such things... i have so much tools, too. 30% i will never need but they are good to have.... better have then need.... 😅😊 Have a nice weekend. Take care and god bless from Germany
SCORE!!! To find that gold mine of tooling is phenomenal! You have to be feeling a lucky man. Besides being extremely hard working with a wonderful camera lady and sidekick safety entity. And we can’t forget George and company….😊P.S. that spiral tap is awesome! I’ll bet they are giving those puppies away 😅. But what a timesaver compared to the alternative ways. Can’t believe what a pain it would be to single point that much metal
I feel like the boring head is now an exciting head, with your new addition.
I don't know why, but I just find it so mesmerizing to watch a rusty part get machined to nice pristine finish. It's just so satisfying to watch
That is great you were able to locate all that tooling. That cabinet with the pull out shelves is really neat, it has to be pretty high quality to hold the tooling weight. I would enjoy a video of just the tooling. Oh and my projects are the same I imagine what I want in my head and get to work, but that is usually followed with, shoot let me look into this before I try again.
Yes a video of the tooling with details about them would definitely be an interesting video for sure. I was almost drooling just looking at it for such a brief time. It’s basically tool porn! 😂🇬🇧
Ah, the highlight of my week :) I love seeing you guys progress the shop, those are some massive machines you got there, so excited to see them getting set up and in action! Much love from Germany!
Prototyped in your brain. You know it's right before you build it. I confounded my mechanical drawing teacher by opting for gearboxes instead of houses. God I wish I had your toys/tools. Thanks for your show. Love you all, Jerry.
Hi really enjoyed your video on the SIP jig borer. I was a toolmaker at Ford in Geelong and spent many hours operating one.
Definitely understand why you'd prefer, essentially, a quill extension over a boring bar. I recently had a quicky job drilling about 100 7/64" holes in some stainless. I've burned up cobalt and carbide drills on similar jobs in the past, in _far_ fewer holes. But this time instead of free-hand in the field with a portable drill, I was in a shop and had a drill press! Okay, it's a cheap-and-nasty import model with visible (if minor) runout, and it ran _way_ too fast - minimum speed is, I believe, 750 RPM - but it knocked out all the holes in 20 minutes, dry, with the first HSS drill, which was still sharp. Even a tiny bit of rigidity makes a huge difference.
Nicely done 😀 As usual you knock your shop made tools out of the park. Also - All of the tooling is a goldmine, worth the drive.
That new equipment looks like it’s barely been used. It’s great you found exactly what you were looking for. Can’t wait to see the machine in action now. In my opinion there’s not much better than actually making your own custom tools.
Just gotta say that big lathe motor sounds powerful enough to drive a really big ship or something . Sounds like serious horsepower. The butcher birds song woke up the birds at my place. Now I've got to feed them😂
Christmas came early, well done to those who contacted you with the SIP hydroptic tooling, 13 hour drive is impressive, my longest drive was from southern Germany to the Staffordshire in the UK. Great addition to the shop both, great work 👍. Thanks for sharing.
Terrifying bit is if he went north or west he'd have not left Queensland
@@hannahranga , Definitely, I saw a Face Book post recently, it showed the country of Austria, inset in map of Australia, you could just about see it.
From what friends have told me, that a 13 hour drive is just an afternoon ride around down under.
Amazing stuff as always. Excellent video angles. No Friday like a Friday with the CEE team showing the new tooling. I am mesmerized. Thank you to Kurtis and Karen (for your patience in making coherent shots😅😂) and hugs to Homie (as always).
I agree, the close up shots of the milling were a joy to see. Great job Karen.🇬🇧
Kurtis, I'm 54 and believe you never stop learning. I learned a new setup method from you today, that said Homeless has a smart Dad. He's trained you well. ;P Keep up the good work.
The pied butcherbirds songs are so beautiful. Wow. I could listen to them for hours, no question. Well done on the adapter. As an engineer, I love seeing how machinists come up with shop made tooling to solve problems. Its a completely different mindset at times and so creative. I learn so much from them, and from Kurtis in these videos. Thanks guys!!!! 😀
Loved it! Always looking forward to Fridays! 🫶👍
Loving the content and was telling my brother about your site and he told me a story about our old grandfather who was in the Royal Marines during ww2; According to my bro Grandad visited a machine-shop in Portsmouth where they were milling ship/submarine prop shafts over 100 meters long. Unreal
very cool!
What came first? the wheel or the lathe? The spiral fire starter/rope wood lathes, standardization of weights and measurements? ... Paris Museum of Arts and Crafts - this might be one for your friend Adam Savage 🙂
I love that Curtis got lost in his own workshop when he went to test the tool. 😂
Man, you have very beautiful hands, the hands of a working man. It's nice to look at your work!
I have seen a great deal of machine work in my eighty years, but watching you work and create from raw stock to finished product always amazes me. Thanks for sharing, it is indeed gratifying to see craftsmen such as you.
I love how you set the angle. You already had a perfectly good taper to use as a reference so might as well do it that way which was fast and didn't take any extra gauges or such to do. That adapter will likely get a lot of use and was faster to make and certainly far less money than buying one if one is even made commercially. I expect this video may teach some others how to do similar adapters for themselves.
Wow! What a find .. definitely worth the drive. 👀👍😎
Watching you use the Scotch-Brite & Emery cloth is hypnotic.
My dad ran SIPS for use. Glad to see Curtis has the best of the best and appreciates that it is not just an extremely accurate machine but also a work of art.
You could just make a video showing off the blingiest pieces of tooling you've got lying around and it'd probably get half a million views in a day.
hey mate thanks for the suggestion we might just do an indepth video of all the tooling 👍
Your shop made tool videos have to be the ones I enjoy the most. Cant wait to see it in action. Thanks for bringing us along!
Holy tooling Batman! What a fantastic score on that tooling. While I absolutely love a custom made adaptor, the bird singing at the end was my favorite part. What a wonderful creature.
Dang! That is an extensive and massive collection.
Watching you make tooling is just as interesting as watching your repairs. Your precision and explanations are spot on. Of course, the video work is exceptional as usual.
Curtis usually gets all the credit. I'm giving Karen a big thumbs up for her great editing. Well done Karen 👍
Great singer...seems like a happy bird...🙂