Killzone has the most interesting lore that is never used in the Killzone games.
@K__a__M__I3 жыл бұрын
The fact they veiled you was playing the bad guys the whole time in the first 4 games since the psp ver. is between 1 and 2.
@ExeErdna3 жыл бұрын
@@ExeErdna It was so crazy reading up on the lore and going "wait what? The Vectans did _what_ to the Helghast??? We are the baddies!?" And the games did _nothing_ with it. So damned disappointing. Call of Duty has had more nuanced plots. Guerilla was sitting on a storytelling goldmine the whole time.
@K__a__M__I3 жыл бұрын
@@damsen978 Can't be a plot twist when it's not in the plot. Read up on the lore and see how much of that can be found in the actual games.
@K__a__M__I3 жыл бұрын
@@K__a__M__I That's what i mean, a plot twist in the lore.
@damsen9783 жыл бұрын
Killzone lore: the ISA are imperialists Killzone games: but it's ok because every helghast ever is a psychopath
@butt3173 жыл бұрын
"Even a monkey will write Shakespeare given enough time" "What the fuck is a Shakespeare" That made me laugh
@mothhh21143 жыл бұрын
Rico in 1 had a certain charm
@edchampion37203 жыл бұрын
@@J.Wolf90 Are you serious
@mothhh21143 жыл бұрын
@@mothhh2114 Cancel culture will eventually throw even you under the bus if you don't draw the line.
@MrTredBear3 жыл бұрын
Thats because Sev doesnt read book, he preaches being up close and finette for kills. So wtf is ... a shakespear but a shake spear ... Lofl ionno bra killzone was good times huh.
@marcusmausisa1143 жыл бұрын
@@MrTredBear wtf is cancel culture
@mothhh21143 жыл бұрын
The AI in killzone 2 was insane. I remember i got my ass beat by a helghast that got OUT of his scripted role to come to the cargo elevator i was descending on at ISA hq, he fucking jumped down 3 meters from the fence as i was trying to shoot him to stop him, made a tactical roll landing and ended up on my face to instantly knock me out with his rifle stock on my face. Then he proceeded to humiliate me on my dying screen... I never shot at his raid squad during that part ever again.
@ElJags2 жыл бұрын
The AI was so good in that game. They'd also be more aggressive if you backed off, provide cover fire for advancing allies, and throw grenades if you were camping.
@GangsterFrankensteinComputer Жыл бұрын
@@GangsterFrankensteinComputer let's get that AI level as a standard. Get the children to harden the fuck up and start thinking in strategy. Planning.
@ZynetESLD Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@darkklown06 Жыл бұрын
I always prefered 2 over 3
@aliencop6421 Жыл бұрын
BRUH YES On my gameplay yesterday, I was in a room, and there was an open door, leading to the open, and there in the open was one of those faster helghasts. So I changed to my revolver since I was out of ammo, and I shot like 3 or 4 times at close range, but the fucker just kinda tricked me dodging left to right and shooting my ass, not only that but when I retreated to take cover and reload HE JUST FUCKING FOLLOWED ME BERSERK MODE AND MELEED THE SHIT OUT OF ME taking advantage of my low health. Never got my ass so beat by a fucking bot like that b4 lol
@yuricueioo Жыл бұрын
Killzone was the last first person shooter that me and my dad played together so it will forever have a very special place in my heart. The co-op campaign was incredible and the super badass multiplayer with bots that we could fight, it was perfect game at the time to play together. Miss that guy a lot. Cancer sucks
@Itbebobby Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss, but happy you have that memory of him to look back on.
@1pikman Жыл бұрын
@@1pikman thank you man! I had buddies who unfortunately never had and or lost theirs very early, so it helped me with a perspective to be thankful of what I had.
@Itbebobby Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤
@785joker Жыл бұрын
Cancer does very much suck, but you know what doesn't tho? Being able to look back on your memories with him with fondness and gratitude. Sounds like you had a great relationship with him and that'll never change no matter what. Happy for you my man, may good fortune continue to come to you and your loved ones 🤟
@jakehero95 Жыл бұрын
My dad passed away very recently and I came to this video just to replay memories of playing this game with him:/
@HuntMcD1 Жыл бұрын
Killzone always looked like those fake games people play in movies
@HighBrowComedy3 жыл бұрын
It still does
@Exigentable3 жыл бұрын
Never thought of that before but that's so accurate
@Jdb633 жыл бұрын
It SOUNDS like that too. Didn't they mention a fictional Killzone game in Die Hard 4 or something?
@RockLobsterist3 жыл бұрын
"Dude are you playing Murder Destroy Warfare right now!? We have our SATs tomorrow!"
@MTdaBlacking3 жыл бұрын
It actually was the game played in movies at a few points. In House of Cards Kevin Spacey plays Killzone 3 in an early episode.
@mortified03 жыл бұрын
Killzone, to me, has always felt like an artist came up with really cool concept art that the writers didn't know what to do with.
@DoctorObviously3 жыл бұрын
I can probably write something better than this superficial lore and stories.
@hamza-trabelsi2 жыл бұрын
@@hamza-trabelsi then do it. we are waiting. take your time
@perseastheodoropoulos73672 жыл бұрын
@@hamza-trabelsi it had an incredible premise up until 3, then it kinda just uh became space cod
@rinnnnnnnnnnrin2 жыл бұрын
@@perseastheodoropoulos7367 the game is already done what's the point of writing a story for it ?
@hamza-trabelsi2 жыл бұрын
@@hamza-trabelsi said no fanfic writer ever
@bellboy78092 жыл бұрын
If you look into the lore of Killzone they do have a reason for the Helghast suddenly getting those crazy weapons. The Stahl Arms corporation had been holding its best equipment back because Jorhan Stahl wanted more political power and Visari wasn’t giving it to him, but with Visari dead he began dealing out his weapons to the generals in the war council in hopes of getting the power he wanted and sure enough he got it. he was the complete opposite of Reddac, disloyal, ambitious, and absolutely drunk on his own power
@djphat94 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning this, thats all i could think of everytime he complained about it being too sci-fi I get it, its not for everyone. But the games straight up gives you this knowledge. Glad I wasn't the only one paying attention.
@flandyc4513 Жыл бұрын
Though in hindsight, he may have avoided this part to avoid giving out too many spoilers for those who haven't played it.
@flandyc4513 Жыл бұрын
@@flandyc4513 maybe but the games have been out for quite some time, those who were going to play them have likely played them already
@djphat94 Жыл бұрын
@@djphat94 Yeah I also thought it was a little strange. I have seen one commenter further down saying they picked up KZ2 specifically cause of this video but, it's highly probable that's a niche. Unless they remaster them at some point, which doesn't seem to be a thing anytime soon, if at all.
@flandyc4513 Жыл бұрын
@@flandyc4513 god I wish they would tho!
@djphat94 Жыл бұрын
Killzone 2 is a grand experience that still holds up today. Technical masterpiece.
@Metascetic3 жыл бұрын
It still looks like you are playing a cutscene, I remember the first time I seen gameplay of it, it was at a videogame store called Play N Trade and they were playing it on a flat screen I could not believe how the graphic looked.
@davidb41503 жыл бұрын
agree
@maelradec6766 Жыл бұрын
Technically it's a good game. Creatively it's about as unique as a match-3 game lol.
@infernaldaedra Жыл бұрын
(IN 3D)
@chillhour6155 Жыл бұрын
Loved the multiplayer. Can't remember a single thing about the campaign though
@Amra.. Жыл бұрын
“Helghast” might be the most evil name for a civilization i’ve ever heard
@sawysauce12563 жыл бұрын
Yeah I loved the space-nazi concept, I remember playing Killzone 3 beta for hours a day as a little kid. It was amazing
@jwoz85173 жыл бұрын
we have one already, u.s.a
@ciphergamingsouthafrica85023 жыл бұрын
@@ciphergamingsouthafrica8502 Not anymore, Russia just flew back up too space as well as China
@LoLErMan133 жыл бұрын
I mean, they live on Helghan...wouldn't they be called Helghani's?
@nicck3 жыл бұрын
@@ciphergamingsouthafrica8502 This
@filo-ii2hn3 жыл бұрын
"This is like if Britian blew up Germany and gave Scotland to the Nazis" Love it
@bloobla73053 жыл бұрын
More like australia
@Stein8713 жыл бұрын
Ehhhh nah he skipped over that vekta was originally the helghast homeworld and the ISA invaded and kicked them to helghan. Killzone 1 is literally the helghast trying to take back their planet.
@SSpider413 жыл бұрын
@@SSpider41 half true they used to live on Vekta with the Vakten(?).
@derkurier27103 жыл бұрын
@@derkurier2710 Nope. Vekta was founded along side helgan. Vekta was named after the CEO of the Helgan company. Philip Vekta. The first people to move to that planet were of the Helgan mining company who eventually became the helgan empire. Prior to anyone colonizing the planet the Helgan company won the bid for both planets and therefore owned them.
@SSpider413 жыл бұрын
Killzone sections without allies made me feel isolated and fearful really, the sensation that healghast were at every room/corner used to trick me a Lot, playing Halo made me feel more like a supersoldier
@GamerTT003 жыл бұрын
I mean, in Killzone you are just a soldier. In Halo Master Chief is the best of the genetically modified super soldiers so it makes sense that you feel that way.
@antarescitizen Жыл бұрын
Bruh I ain't watching a hour of killzone lore edit: so I just watched an hour of killzone lore
@airhawk-jp4vj3 жыл бұрын
So how did it go ?
@Glitchedpixel52 ай бұрын
Wow, seeing how good Killzone 2 still looks is astonishing. Even after the massive “downgrades” they still produced something that rivals games made even 5 years later.
@AVGNROCKS19963 жыл бұрын
There were never any "downgrades", because the original trailer literally wasn't actually footage of the game. It was a cinematic made to LOOK like gameplay, but in actuality is was basically just a glorified cutscene meant to trick people.
@HOTD108_3 жыл бұрын
I think it looks brown and poorly looking
@magicjohnson31213 жыл бұрын
@@Dev-nr4dw man you're all drunk, Killzone 3 looks way better than 2 and they've always been generic looking shooters. Killzone 2 looking good??? On PS4 with the HD remaster it might look decent enough, on the PS3 its terrible.
@AnyUserNo23 жыл бұрын
Evidence First · 12 Years Ago it wasn’t made to trick people. They sent it to Sony before a lot of development to show what they hoped the game would look like. Sony then released it as a “gameplay trailer.”
@esssss84153 жыл бұрын
@@HOTD108_ Yeah, that's why i put "downgrades" in quotation marks. Even despite the pre-rendered bullshot the game looks positively amazing, and in many ways better than that original trailer.
@AVGNROCKS19963 жыл бұрын
"Helgan belongs to the Helghast."
@juhaleinivaara72683 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he actually thought the ISA wanted to take over Helgan seeing as how they already had the grand prize Vekta
@Oppen19453 жыл бұрын
Skyrim belongs to the nords
@zodixv33 жыл бұрын
Halo belongs to Bungie
@eskaflorence56593 жыл бұрын
Scholar Visari is smiling at me Vektan, can you say the same?
@jason47hitmanforhire3 жыл бұрын
You belong in a museum
@dnfl-71683 жыл бұрын
Killzone 2 was one of the best-looking games I'd ever seen up to that point, and all these years later it's still pretty impressive.
@spiraljumper742 жыл бұрын
I remember waiting for killzone 2 to be launched here. And then realized. "Wait, i don't have a PS3" and never were able to play killzone 2...
@capperbuns Жыл бұрын
It also had some of the most intelligent AI in any game at that time. Like, it's scary how dirty and cleverly the AI will play sometimes just to try and kill you.
@snazzyjovialwyrm331410 ай бұрын
@@snazzyjovialwyrm3314 Hell, I remember some bullshit flanking maneuvers that surprised me in the first game even.
@spiraljumper7410 ай бұрын
I'll tell you as someone who played Killzone when it first came out. The facial models especially during the character select screen were the most realistic graphics I had seen at that time.
@chrisb9179 Жыл бұрын
It was very impressive , happy to have my copy still working.
@pbonfanti Жыл бұрын
The Enemy design was the cool thing in these games. The Helghast even had Mechas. They easily could have continued the Series by making you play as a Helghast Revolutionary.
@thousandyoung3 жыл бұрын
I also love the space Nazi anehestics too
@deathtrooper1993 жыл бұрын
@@deathtrooper199 Why do the bad guys get cool looking uniforms/outfits and designs? Lol
@rejectedkermit12203 жыл бұрын
Being a Helghan Revolutionary planting bombs and causing terror among the ISA would be dope.
@edchampion37203 жыл бұрын
@@rejectedkermit1220 Well, the Helgast are technically the good guys in this universe
@stardude2893 жыл бұрын
@@stardude289 I know, but from the game's perspective the Helghast are the "bad guys"
@rejectedkermit12203 жыл бұрын
Kids nowadays will never know the joy that could come from a game manual
@STOTTINMAD3 жыл бұрын
I wish my generation had that luxury, I still remember reading about the left 4 dead cast in the manual and thinking it was cool leaning about the characters
@a_ghost89263 жыл бұрын
I want stuff like that now
@nicknevco2153 жыл бұрын
I always loved reading the manuals on the way home from the game store. Sometimes I would take one out with me for reading material and would actually learn a thing or two about the game, like what certain UI icons meant that aren't explained in-game. Good times.
@SangheiliSpecOp3 жыл бұрын
Halo weapon specs were my favorite. Reading about vehicles and stuff and looking at the pictures was like nibbling down the cherry after a super satisfying desert after an even more satisfying 3 course meal. Now u just download a game it on steam and wiki the info you need or youtube a tutorial. Im absolutely bappy about how convenient it is because i remember when things were so limited. But sad knowing im the last generation of gamer to appreciate those things. But we move on.
@ssc46493 жыл бұрын
@@ssc4649 Old Blizzard games manuals where basically mini novels that got you in the the games world.
@Guciom3 жыл бұрын
I remember buying into all the “Halo killer” hype when this was first coming out. And while it definitely didnt outclass halo, i f-ing loved this game and REALLY appreciated the entire set up. Now that ive been fully reminded of everything i loved about this game i now would like to request a remaster or remake.
@ahh_yes_mr_bax2 жыл бұрын
Just remember: Calling a game a [blank] killer is a dumb phrase that gaming news outlets game up with. No developer would ever label their game a “[blank]” killer
@lordpicklenips34072 жыл бұрын
Tribes 2 anyone
@BrandonHilikus Жыл бұрын
I would like something like that too, I got invested in the franchise too late so I want a second chance we it.
@ZaxFSO8083 Жыл бұрын
@@BrandonHilikus haloe killer？
@ClaimClam Жыл бұрын
I much prefer KZ to Halo They release a new KZ I’ll buy a PS5
@filthyrando3632 Жыл бұрын
Shadowfall: "So, the ISA took in all the refuges from the planet they destroyed when they won the war." Me: "Sure, makes sense." Shadowfall: "Including their soldiers." Me: "Yeah, sure. I mean, when they have surrendered..." Shadowfall: "And they get half the planet." Me: "Hm... ok. Seems a bit excessive, but the ISA took their entire planet, I guess." Shadowfall: "And the forced resetteling of the humans living on Helghast side won't be completted before the planet gets split up." Me: "Ahm... really?" Shadowfall: "And the Helghast get to rule over their side autonomously." Me: "Hang on!" Shadowfall: "And they get to keep all their military equipment and technology." Me: "STOP!"
@c.m.93692 жыл бұрын
Going so far as to make their planet uninhabitable the only sane option is to go all out until there's no one left to get revenge
@ThePresidentofMars Жыл бұрын
Yeah the whole set up to me kinda implies the helghast had a super weapon pointed at the isa head during the negotiations
@ONEIL311 Жыл бұрын
The only thing I can think of is the lack of desire of the Vectan government to put at any real effort or resources to integrate the two. If the Helghast can keep their military forces and form their government and stay on their side, then less problems for the Vektans. With the outcomes of both the first and second extrasolar wars, they must have given up trying to make true peace with the Helghast.
@aarongreem4142 Жыл бұрын
I mean the Isa planet was originaly the helghasts planet before they stole it from them lore wise the Isa are the bad guys
@Palestine4Ever169 Жыл бұрын
STAPH !!
@Mohammadkwt Жыл бұрын
In a documentary over Horizon: Zero Dawn, a member of Guerilla Games states that the story was never written in-house. They outsourced that to a separate team of writers every time, and I think it really shows. If it’s true that they’re working on another Killzone, I hope it’s a reboot w/a dedicated writing team like HZD.
@SanchezS19983 жыл бұрын
Main writer of Horizon was former Fallout New Vegas writer, i believe
@CroneRaven18103 жыл бұрын
Isn't the twist at the end of Horizon That a bunch of literal dude bro scientist caused the end of the world?
@DraphEnjoyer3 жыл бұрын
MrZurata no, 1 dude bro scientist started the apocalypse and then later he betrayed all the good scientists to cover it up.
@DacAttack21423 жыл бұрын
DacAttack2142 I would say Ted Faro is more of an evil, impatient Elon Musk while the guy that wrote HADES was definitely a dude-bro.
@SanchezS19983 жыл бұрын
@@DraphEnjoyer Yeah the story of HZD was pretty shitty tbh. First putting the world and after that writing a half-assed story isnt qorking so often .
@Snyperwolf913 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we'll get a video about the Resistance games.
@contrabandresearch84093 жыл бұрын
Brit made a video on 3 which he liked but he doesn't like the first 2.
@Gus14943 жыл бұрын
@@Gus1494 Cool. I'll check that out.
@contrabandresearch84093 жыл бұрын
I wanna see him do a video On the dark souls games
@invadazim43203 жыл бұрын
I couldn't play those. the fov gave me headaches and nausea. a shame because i hear insomniac did a good job with those games.
@ISetYourFaceOnFire3 жыл бұрын
Loved the entire series despite each game being very different from one another. 2's my favorite despite 3 having the best mechanics.
@JohnnyBurnes3 жыл бұрын
Ok, so one cool idea for KZ 3 and Shadowfall I came up with while watching this would have been if, in 3, it maintained its gritty and grounded tone, with the nuking of Helghan being actually an accident, with the characters not knowing/caring for the superweapon, just them actually trying to leave and maybe they shoot down a fighter which crashes into the superweapon or some other cheesy stuff, nuking Helghan. After that, Vekta actually takes in the Helghast refugees, and tries to integrate them into Vektan society (so no goofy partition), except both in the government and general populace there is a lot of mistrust and discrimination against the Helghast, who would still probably live in tangibly worse conditions on average compared to most Vektans. There could be a lot of urban guerrilla warfare between the two sides, the Helghast, angered by the nuking of their homeworld and discrimination they face on Vekta, radicalised by their miserable conditions, and the Vektans being exceptionally distrustful of the Helghast, with anti-Helghast militias being more or less covertly supported by the Vektan government. This would add some grey to it, with the Helghast adopting some sort of Post-Helghast-ism, or either way a reformed ideology that cherished the virtues and rights of Visari’s regime, while diminishing or condemning its crimes, be it out of genuine desire to change, or as a way to mask a will to return to that ultranationalist, revanchist totalitarianism. Furthermore, taking place decades into the future compared to 3, it would -as you said- justify the more bright and overtly sci-fi elements. And it would have fairly modest objectives, for example the player could be a soldier/policeman in the ISA (maybe in a squad with some Helghast or Mixed-heritage people thrown in as well) who has the fairly simple and modest objective of keeping the peace, by countering guerrilla activity, nominally by both Helghast and Vektan extremists, though the orders you get would certainly have a bias against the Helghast, with you maybe taking part in some “questionable” actions.
@obiwankenobi42522 жыл бұрын
I has more fun reading this than playing shadowfall tbh lol
@jayr7890 Жыл бұрын
That would have been cool
@Glitchedpixel52 ай бұрын
It's a shame there's no mention of how amazing Killzone 2's online multiplayer was.
@mazack00 Жыл бұрын
KZ 2 MP was awesome
@filthyrando3632 Жыл бұрын
It was so great! I think about it occasionally
@AC-hj9tv Жыл бұрын
@@AC-hj9tv Ditto. I find myself getting way too excited and nostalgic describing it to people.
@mazack00 Жыл бұрын
@@mazack00 really wish we could get it on pc
@AC-hj9tv Жыл бұрын
@@AC-hj9tv it wouldn't feel the same. Being forced to use controllers with the same sensitivity settings was a real balancer.
@mazack00 Жыл бұрын
The snow in Killzone 3, I love how they made the snow affecting your vision so much, being everywhere and strong, not just like a skin for a map.
@SadHill343 жыл бұрын
^this. In most games weather effects are just an overlay on screen instead of effecting the environment! Killzone 3 has some of the best snow I've ever seen in games
@leonc97603 жыл бұрын
@@leonc9760 MGS4
@suri_exe81173 жыл бұрын
@@leonc9760 I wish I could have experienced it in that 3d effect the game was pushed along side the sony 3d gaming tv
@MrUserpick483 жыл бұрын
@@suri_exe8117 imma about to give a negative feedback, but realized that mgs4 is still a playstation exclusive, so I let you go
@imnotaracistokay2 жыл бұрын
@@imnotaracistokay I was mostly talking about the snow, not the game in general. If you wanna shit on the game go for it lol
@suri_exe81172 жыл бұрын
Despite being the epitome of the mid-2000’s gray washed out trend I do still appreciate some of the heavy grunge and industrial aesthetics of the game, everything’s dirty and bombed out, it’s kind of like the Terminator video game we never got.
@afterpasthours75043 жыл бұрын
It’s also why I am weirded out by the design of Shadow Fall, it doesn’t gel with the rest of the series and looks more akin to a Mirrors Edge Catalyst more than anything.
@afterpasthours75043 жыл бұрын
Terminator Resistance is genuinely the closest I think we'll ever get. Decent game tbf.
@0lionheart3 жыл бұрын
The new terminator game does have that look
@Darkest_matter3 жыл бұрын
Playing through the teracite ruins on shadow fall gave me the same exact feeling, actually enhanced the experience quite a bit, which before that had been a bit of a forced stealth slog, but with that thought in mind I actually had a shitload of fun sneaking through the ruins avoiding the combat drones and other robots
@TiddyTwyster3 жыл бұрын
If you like that style and into older games, I suggest you try C-12 : Final Resistance on PS1.
@steelbear20633 жыл бұрын
Every shots and firefights in Kill zone 2 feels like a damn cutscenes where you can control it freely
@Evangylo2 жыл бұрын
Thx for mentioning Killzone Mercenary! I’ve had a vita for a while, but barely used it until now. I’ve never played any other Killzone, but I’ve been hooked to this game and think it’s really underrated.
@Impeldown772 жыл бұрын
I bought another vita since I lost mine years ago and still enjoy playing kill one mercenary. I think there’s still multiplayer servers active
@JV-ie4rh Жыл бұрын
KZ mercenary was so my jam. Love the online play and the campaign.
@SMSBJM1981 Жыл бұрын
Funny how in the end, all the "Halo Killers" had to do, was wait for Halo to kill itself.
@xecrald3 жыл бұрын
I dunno if you can quite describe it as killed. 20 years, 9 games and only one had a legitimately poor campaign.
@MostlyPennyCat3 жыл бұрын
James Neave while thats true, its reputation has gone down significantly since about 2013 or whenever 343 took over
@MyBebopBlues3 жыл бұрын
@@MostlyPennyCat Halo not as good as it used to be though, 343 kinda dragged it through the mud, 4 was okay if you liked call of duty, 5 followed EAs mentality that nobody liked solo player anymore and produced a shit campaign and I got no expectations for infinite because with how 343 just remastered reach to have the new stupid ass system that forces players to play multiplayer to level up that shows that they aren't doing the series justice
@erikgardner47773 жыл бұрын
I replayed 4 recently. 4 should have been an X1 launch title. It's problem was the 360 was too much a limiting factor. I genuinely like the campaign, minus the boring AI, but that's a hardware limit. Yes there was a style change, I didn't love it, didn't hate it. I love Halo Wars 1 & 2. Spartan Ops was a _fantastic_ idea badly implemented (boring levels) 5. 5 was just, ugh, yuck, no. Nonono. Infinite should have targeted the next generation. But infinite looks _gorgeous_ Original halo art style with a pbr engine and hub and spoke level design. Yes please, yes please very much. And halo wars 3. And some other spin offs, like bungie did with odst. I just don't understand why they stopped doing stuff in this way. Side projects, movies, books, RTS games. Offload all that stuff, separate MP from SP into MCC, have 343 focus on engine design and main story campaign. _how is this so difficult to figure out???_ I think it's far from killed. But there opportunity is still there. They need to change the focus. Individual components do not need to be profitable and million copy sellers. Like Netflix and HBO, get some good products, take risks to find them, get people subscribed to game pass. This is the business model now. It _could, should_ be glorious.
@MostlyPennyCat3 жыл бұрын
@@erikgardner4777 I like both call of duty and halo, halo first, neither of them felt anything like cod, I feel like using that Insult is just lazy and bandwagoning because it isn't a pure halo experience from the originals
@mrmoth80113 жыл бұрын
RIP Killzone. The website died recently and it looks like we will never get another game. I really wanted a killzone game where we could play as a Helgahst soldier to see the other side of the conflict
@chrisk59833 жыл бұрын
Same ;_;
@edchampion37203 жыл бұрын
Said every single Killzone player ever.
@RonJeremy514 Жыл бұрын
@@RonJeremy514 Indeed.
@slaterock4612 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Helgahast are justified in there hate for the other side but they let that hate consume them so totally they... go over the top shale we say
@coldrage20t8 Жыл бұрын
That'd be hard to do, because of the heavy Nazi themes. Being able to play as futuristic Nazi's then go kill people doesn't look good.
@QuestionQuestionMark Жыл бұрын
Killzone 2&3 multiplayer will always have a special place in my heart
@HeeySuup Жыл бұрын
It's an experience I'll likely never get again
@quatreraberbawinner2628 Жыл бұрын
I miss game manuals. In the early 2000s they kinda died out due to digital alternative. Metal Gear Solids PS manual was the most interesting book I saw from a game. It had hidden things and even a codec number tou needed for later in the game. So if you dodnt read it or look at the case at all you will miss out on story and gameplay. It was brilliant.
@olearris Жыл бұрын
True but the Colonol did have our backs if we were too stupid for that lol. That was about the only time Campbell didn't do us dirty. Although, I don't remember her codec being in the manual. I remember it on the back of the CD case.
@flandyc4513 Жыл бұрын
So far you talked about Jak & Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, Killzone, DmC, and Revengeance. Don't stop until you made videos on every franchise featured in Playstation All-Stars. *I await your Fat Princess retrospective, Charlie.*
@christophercarrasco1543 жыл бұрын
2021 Sly Cooper retrospective or I eat my hat
@Kriss_ch.3 жыл бұрын
Make Fat Princess to TGB as Sly Cooper is to B-mask
@BaneDane_JB3 жыл бұрын
Fat Princess was one of the funnest multiplayer games I’ve played honestly, they need to make a true sequel
@23madberty3 жыл бұрын
@@Kriss_ch. His other half already made a Sly Cooper retrospective. His name is B-Mask.
@christophercarrasco1543 жыл бұрын
I kinda want Infamous tbh.
@josephabrams85293 жыл бұрын
It's nice seeing some actual attention being given to Killzone 2. It's a game I've played many times before but I've never seen it talked about. I always came back to it for its brutal and gritty aesthetic and it's definitely something it nailed where other shooters that tried failed. One thing it did I find interesting is design the game to be played without a HUD. There's an option to turn it off and I've played it many times that way and got way more immersed in it. Health is determined by color of the screen (something that wasn't as common back then) and the guns make a different sound when firing them on low ammo, so you are aware when you're about to run dry. Just a neat little thing I don't recall being done in other shooters
@dooptown3 жыл бұрын
Another game that I love without hud are the first two metro games. So fun and the game has a lot of physical stuff to keep track of things instead of hud
@user-ux4gu2lh8c3 жыл бұрын
Killzone 2 was some of my favorite Multiplayer at the time as well. Really loved how much the classes impacted gameplay while having a "realistic" and gritty feel to it.
@ZeFluffyKnight3 жыл бұрын
2° best multiplayer I ever played in the PS3
@dovahkiin_brasil3 жыл бұрын
Warhammer 40k Space marine does a similar thing with the guns. The game is very hectic and switches between melee and ranged at the drop of a hat. So guns sound different when almost empty so you don't have to look down at your ammo bar.
@oscarlove43943 жыл бұрын
Just read that in its lore, apparently the ISA enacted an incredibly unfair trade deal that basically screwed over the Helghast into a great depression, then Scolar Visari had them rise up to basically fight back against this... then we play as the ISA... who push the "bad guys" back in the ground. I remember loving Killzone 2 back in the day, but now I feel like the ISA were the bad guys all along. Am I wrong?
@kyletrevarthen4219 Жыл бұрын
Yes your wrong
@quatreraberbawinner2628 Жыл бұрын
@@quatreraberbawinner2628he’s not wrong but he’s not right the ISA did fuck up the Helghast and sent them off of their home-world to a cancer planet but the Helghast also did some fucked up shit after that,the Killzone lore is literally both sides are evil in their own right,The Helghast fight because they were sent off to die by plague and famine and the Isa fight because all they know is that the Helghast are going to murder everyone on your home-world and they do not care for civilians both are evil and unless you read into it you automatically believe the Isa like a Isa grunt but if you read the lore you will see that both are not good
@The-Medic-Dozer10 ай бұрын
Not even a little. Hail Visari!
@christianbethel28 күн бұрын
Honestly I feel like the biggest obstacle that impeded the first Killzone's potential being fully realized was, other than the technical limitations of the console it was designed for, it was pushed into this role of being "the Halo killer." When game journalists invented the concept of "the game that would arrive and dethrone Halo as the king of the FPS genre" they did a great disservice to writers, artists, and developers because they had now artificially altered how the public would react to these games. There was so much hype and expectation to be a Halo killer that it prevented some of these games from just being what they were intended to.
@lukesterling2276 Жыл бұрын
The devs called their games this internally, too. CoD MW comes to mind.
@Kriss_ch.9 ай бұрын
Amazing how Shadow Fall's way to make your character want to put an end to Helghan genocide was to *make him simp for a Helghan girl*
@DeepWeeb3 жыл бұрын
They had a real chance to show how much the lines were blurred between the helghast and the vsa, but no.
@RedBonkleMan85343 жыл бұрын
But we have to appreciate, she was t h i c c.
@Etzelsschizo3 жыл бұрын
Blaukraut ohne Knödel she looked p skinny bro ngl
@RedBonkleMan85343 жыл бұрын
@@Etzelsschizo What was the character's name? I can't remember her
@ironduke50583 жыл бұрын
@@ironduke5058 Maya Visari
@Etzelsschizo3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the only reason ShadowFall and Second Son exist was that Sony needed strong first party launches to showcase the power of the PS4.
@uhobme20283 жыл бұрын
This guy gets it.
@JDelwynn3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I was really dissapointed with Second Son, being a fan of the franchise...
@legendarymarston91743 жыл бұрын
@@0uttaS1TE as much as I loved the good ending in InFamous 2, I would of loved to see Cole again. And see how SuckerPunch would write him as the main bad guy.
@legendarymarston91743 жыл бұрын
@@0uttaS1TE Dunno man,InFanmous 2 showed that their writing staff REALLY couldnt handle even the comparatively small differences between the two endings of 1,cant even imagine how they would have fucked up a third entry(that isnt just a tech-demo with a completely half assed and negligible story...oh hey thar Second Son).
@rapedslime70403 жыл бұрын
@@0uttaS1TE There was a pretty big difference in the form of how the narrative handled Cole´s relationship with Zeke which the second game then just handwaves away DESPITE being such a comparetatively small part. I absolutely cant see them handle the vastly different endings of 2 if they couldnt even be arsed to handle that detail.
@rapedslime70403 жыл бұрын
Would love to go back in time and relive my Killzone 2 experience. Easily one of my favorite games I used to play.
@One-du6cc Жыл бұрын
37:00 to be fair I kinda interpreted that has more of a punishment against Vekta than a win for the Helghans. The start of Killzone Two shows that the central government on Earth forbade Vekta and the ISA from invading Helghan, insisting on a blockade instead. But ISA went YOLO, which ended up in what was basically a mass murder of a billion Helghans, mainly civilians. So I think Earth's government was like "ok, you fucked up. Now you must be punished" and that's why half the planet was given to the Helghan. But refugees also went to other planets, as it is shown in the in game lore about another colony's political situation
@javieraravena5345 Жыл бұрын
"I'm buying a Wii u to escape brown and grey shooters" Is now my new favourite phrase
@zcritten3 жыл бұрын
I actually did that at the time. Had to get back to Nintendo after getting bored of the call of duty and GTA clones.
@breno8553 жыл бұрын
As a POC i can't believe he would say something like that
@Maestro-gh2ei3 жыл бұрын
@@Maestro-gh2ei As a gray person, I'm offended.
@SefniAsheforr3 жыл бұрын
@@Maestro-gh2ei why? Are you saying that people of color don't like color?
@jamainegardner41932 жыл бұрын
@@jamainegardner4193 was a joke
@Maestro-gh2ei2 жыл бұрын
"When you defeat Radec..." You mean "IF you defeat Radec"
@UfodexENMD3 жыл бұрын
"You seem to want this to be personal. It will be my pleasure."
@randomcenturion72643 жыл бұрын
You never defeat Radec. He denies you victory by taking matters into his own hands. ;) (that even assumes it's the REAL Radec, as there's support in the narrative that it may be an imposter, though KZ3 and SF threw much of the story out the window to do their own thing so they never followed up on this)
@davekaye54833 жыл бұрын
I spent two weeks with my dad defeating the final boss on medium difficulty
@amiiru22513 жыл бұрын
@@amiiru2251 I believe it. I know people who spent weeks not being able to pass the rocket launcher corridor section on the hard difficulty, or the ATAC fight without using the rocket launcher cheese on the hardest difficulty.
@davekaye54833 жыл бұрын
@@davekaye5483 dude killzone 2 is the best and most graphically realistic and enjoyable game. I got it with my ps3 slim when I was six, I didn't have that much fun before (I am an introvert). Me and my dad used to take turns, it was a blast. Now he passed away, and I got my hands on killzone 3, I'd always imagine me and him taking turns.. I am really happy that this game has a big community that's still going.
@amiiru22513 жыл бұрын
Man Im a huge fan of your videos. Really fantastic work and super articulated points.
@user-tw7ji8ci9h4 ай бұрын
If anyone is still confused by the franchise's story and premise. It's basically one huge dick-tugging competition of genocide and war crimes with a very anti-war rhetoric to it. Nobody is the good guy in Killzone. The ISA are just a bunch of missfit mercenaries who act as pawns for Earth and the New Vektan government with the sole purpose of keeping the Helghast in check, even if it means resorting to genocide to do so(of which they do in Killzone 3 and Shadowfall). The Helghast, while ultimately the victims in the grand scheme of things, opted to becoming a harsh, violent fascist super power with the sole intention of taking back Vekta from their enemies. None of them sound good by any means.
@snazzyjovialwyrm331410 ай бұрын
I've always really liked Radec, nice to see someone giving him due praise. His characterization in his cutscenes from Playstation All Stars is excellent too.
@SuperVegitoSSJ23 жыл бұрын
Speaking of PlayStation AllStars, I always found it a bit funny how Radec, who's supposed to be super devoted to Helghan, just sort of dips in the middle of a full-scale invasion to go fight Sir Daniel and shit. Soldier: Colonel Radec! The enemy is at our gates! What shall we do, sir?! *realizes he's not there.* "Sir?" He soon finds a note, which reads... "Yo, there's this giant purple head somewhere that might or might not be a threat to us. I'm gonna go check it out. BRB."
@nikitaivachtchenko63753 жыл бұрын
Sony were is PlayStation All-Stars 2,its 2020.
@vash_the_stampede65703 жыл бұрын
@@vash_the_stampede6570 0:34 What is that from?
@thevideogamehunger01343 жыл бұрын
Sean Pertwee is a fantastic actor and really brought the character to life. I have no idea why he isn't being cast in more stuff. Dude's like a walking Oscar performance and yet he keeps getting stuck in awful straight-to-DVD flicks. While I'm happy to see he got some exposure in Gotham as Alfred Pennyworth, the guy really deserves much better. Why he isn't in Marvel movies or something of a Star Wars-level caliber I have no idea.
@davekaye54833 жыл бұрын
@@thevideogamehunger0134 sly Cooper
@LowTiertoji2 жыл бұрын
Killzone Mercenary is a legitimately fantastic handheld shooter. So underrated
@atomictoaster80133 жыл бұрын
yup, still the best handheld shooter i played, and honestly one of the better shooters ever released. the amount of replayability of each mission due to vanguards and weapons was crazy. also the multiplayer was legitimately good and they even released bots through the botzome dlc later, so you could always go back to play it
@kevinkim96203 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's underrated at all. It's only serious problem was the unpopular platform.
@albertzinger71323 жыл бұрын
This is hands down one of the best written gaming essay videos I have ever seen on KZhead. Well done!
@foxmind2490 Жыл бұрын
Well done, man! Excellent work, and some original observations. I think we were lucky to grow up through the evolution of gaming during the 2000s, even if the decade otherwise was rubbish.
@MT-vi6vb2 жыл бұрын
KZhead’s getting real comfortable with these double ads 👀
Man i've been desperate to play Killzone 2 again lately. This video hits deep
@AveragePixel3 жыл бұрын
Dude i would love to play this shit outta it again too I wish emulation would come along to pick up the third console generation already! They still haven't gotten good Xbox Original emulation either though
@spartanwar11853 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your vids bro, hope things are going well.
@AntanovOCEFGC3 жыл бұрын
Theyre all on playstation now if you get a subscription
@bubbletroubles52343 жыл бұрын
Killzone 2 multiplayer was awesome. It needs a modern remaster. For PC lol I wonder it can play lan on PS3...
@spoonikle3 жыл бұрын
Do like i did... I bought a used PS3 cheap and bought both killzones
@tomweyts3 жыл бұрын
I always liked the idea of the killzone games. I never played 2 but watching your gameplay of it looks like more fun than I’ve had in a while. Shadow fall I’ll admit I only had so much fun was because that beginning smg/sniper thing was so cool and I had a lot of fun using that gun.
@claymore995 Жыл бұрын
For an hour long video you presented this brilliantly and well scripted and to the point. Well done. You have a new sub :)
@rich12015 Жыл бұрын
"Grey conflicts" in pop media boil down to two things. 1. The bad guys are actually good 2. BOTH SIDES
@ianbowden25243 жыл бұрын
Well yeah...how else would you depict a grey conflict?
@themagalanium94913 жыл бұрын
Jotaro97 I haven’t watched it but the vibe I got was that “sometimes one-man dictatorship/absolute monarchy is more effective that flawed democracy in war”
@efrenyalung13483 жыл бұрын
@@efrenyalung1348 thats pretty close
@Yah_of_Yeet3 жыл бұрын
When I said both sides I meant both sides being bad.
@ianbowden25243 жыл бұрын
@@themagalanium9491 Good "Grey Conflicts" that aren't trying to be grey for edginesses sake, as mentioned above, usually aren't as concerned with making a statement on who's right or wrong (which kind of defeats the purpose in my eyes) as much as they are exploring the how and why of people choosing to believe what they believe in relation to a larger world.
@slugofborg65323 жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone out here appreciates big man Boris for the legendary lad he is.
@nydalitecrafter3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It sparks much joy.
@OminousIndominus3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I wish they made remastered version and for pc as well. In fact put all Killzone games to PC like they are doing it now with Halo. That might restart the interest for the franchise.
@CliffuckingBooth3 жыл бұрын
Man i wish i played that game, Boris sounds like my favorite kind of character
@spartanwar11853 жыл бұрын
@@CliffuckingBooth They brought horizon to pc. I think Killzone would be a good choice for the pc as well. If they do it I hope they include the multiplayer .
@OminousIndominus3 жыл бұрын
Yellow as piss
@Assassino2753 жыл бұрын
ok. this video is a masterpiece. thank u for making it :).
@arcadelama18072 жыл бұрын
I never really got into the FPS genre, but I loved Killzone 2, especially the multiplayer. I loved the deliberate nature of the combat. Taking your time and thinking actually paid off. That's the same reason I loved the multiplayer in The Last of Us.
@willabby585 Жыл бұрын
Freaking Killzone 2 man. Needs a Remaster
@skullkid9643 жыл бұрын
The whole series
@Chris707ac3 жыл бұрын
I would love a Killzone Trilogy Remaster for PS5. I would love it even more if they did a remake of Killzone 1 with the intense grit of Killzone 2. to come along with it.
@clawofthefallen3 жыл бұрын
It needs a remake these games are shit.
@playgog26783 жыл бұрын
would like it on PC since Kz2 had no aim assist anyways.
@ICXCify3 жыл бұрын
Man, Killzone 2 was the game of my childhood. Even when I replayed it, I still enjoyed it so much. Just seeing the familiar sights of Corynthe River, the living blocks, and those sweet-sweet guns (Sta-52 is still the best) brings so many memories of playing it with my dad. Great game.
@SprazzyGazoozle3 жыл бұрын
12:11 "In the words of pop culture´s most famous black gas mask wearing space totalitarian, `this is where the fun begins´ " Nice touch.
@SantiFiore3 жыл бұрын
Mauler never said that
@raddarat84713 жыл бұрын
@@raddarat8471 Ah, a fellow member of the Toxic Brood
@BesugoTheFirst3 жыл бұрын
Didn't understood the reference 😔
@scoutwaffle61253 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I had EFAP on the brain. They where referring to Darth Vader. My bad.
@BesugoTheFirst3 жыл бұрын
@@scoutwaffle6125 Kid Anakin
@teslashark3 жыл бұрын
Damn, nice video. A really nice indepth look at the series.
@thejamesreloaded Жыл бұрын
Shadowfall could have easily fixed a lot of issues by having the integration happen, but have Helghast remnants be the bad guys who want to restore the old ways. The guerilla warfare of the 1st game is now flipped. The world could be setup to still have slums for Helghast who had extreme difficulty integrating or refusal to do so, while also presenting criticisms of free market society. You can still pit ISA against Helghast, but frame it as extremists who refuse to see an option for peace or are severely undercut by the change in society. You could also have had levels that show the stark differences of lifestyle and drawing that inspiration from East vs West germany circa 1970s, but in space.
@ImOblivious3 жыл бұрын
I've been saying "Space Nazis" as a joke to describe the Helghan for years now. But there's something magical about it being in writing.
@Victim553 жыл бұрын
there's actual good conversation between these ideologies, which modern games lack. this creates purpose(maybe I created it myself through these discussin ingame), i dont feel similar purpose in many more modern games.
@effexon3 жыл бұрын
@Cody Sonnet your name is cody dude spend some time off the Internet its rotting your 13 year old brain
@LW-of4oq3 жыл бұрын
@Cody Sonnet cringe
@LtSprinkulz3 жыл бұрын
@Cody Sonnet A Nazi apologist and anti-mask advocate. LOL
@levvy30063 жыл бұрын
@Cody Sonnet Germany was attacked? Are you referencing when Germany killed a bunch of convicts, and then dressed them in Polish uniforms as a false flag attack to try justifying the invasion of Poland? Because that's what it was, Nazi propaganda.
@the_corvid973 жыл бұрын
I really want a killzone 2 pc port now :(
@Corrupted3 жыл бұрын
halloooo
@faxd34483 жыл бұрын
I guess use emulator
@TrajGreekFire3 жыл бұрын
Yes please..
@Zood943 жыл бұрын
Guerrilla please
@Man_Flippin_Pentagrams3 жыл бұрын
I remember when i got killzone 2 "new" at gamestop back in 2009. The game wasn't even sealed like wtf, how did they sell me the game $60 new if it's open. They just put the disc inside the box and sold it to me like that for $60. I was young so tbh I didn't really care. F gamestop tho.
@bimmer86023 жыл бұрын
This very well made Nice job
@sigmapopsical2722 жыл бұрын
Killzone 2 is still one of my favourite FPS games of all time. It was like playing a cinematic it looked so good.
@bastiwen Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story is" Don't follow a craze, be your thing" And i too miss rough, grey look of the games from 2000-2010.
@danieladamczyk40243 жыл бұрын
I don't at all, I dislike(and disliked) that look just fine without any pretentions towards enlightenment as brit mentions in the video , lol. But I completely agree with the moral. A trailer for a wacky colorful shooter now is just as annoying to me as the trailer for a new brown mid-2000s cover shooter was back then, even though I prefer something lighter in that style. You can't exactly dictate marketplace variety, but it would be nice if the pendulum didn't swing the same way for so many studios at once.
@Kriss_ch.3 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the current trend of retro boomer shooters (Dusk, AmidEvil, Ion Maiden, etc) to the mid-2000s shooters, simply because they’re less restrictive and more kinetic in terms of their gameplay mechanics.
@Ammoniumbicarbonat3 жыл бұрын
@@Kriss_ch. Saved me the trouble of typing out this comment myself. Thank you.
@12ealDealOfficial3 жыл бұрын
Killzone 2 LOOKS BETTER than that fake video for sure, it's honestly one of the best lookers on the PS3, I'm sad it lost itself honestly, it was such a unique game.
@QMMarc3 жыл бұрын
KZ is my favourite fps series. 2 was chefs kiss. Great video! Really brought me back. An Unreal Engine 5 PS5 KZ more in line with KZ 2 would be amazing.
@filthyrando3632 Жыл бұрын
I bought killzone 2 because of this video and it is incredible. Thank you for the great video
@gibsjunior3 жыл бұрын
Killzone as a series is something that, as soon as it leaves my sight, I completely forget about it
@thatonepersona85323 жыл бұрын
Yea lol
@charlie12345003 жыл бұрын
Such a great way to put it. I loved playing them but I cannot remember the story for the life of me.
@mikedrop44213 жыл бұрын
@@mikedrop4421 All I remember badass gasmask men and hating the ISA
@XenoWalkerEVE3 жыл бұрын
Thank god for horizon though
@shawklan273 жыл бұрын
you know it's funny scrolling down the comments....I can FEEL it slipping out of my mind.
@Roboshi20073 жыл бұрын
Killzone. Another victim of the third game being in an ice world aka "Ice Guys Finish Last" approach
@Grimwinn3 жыл бұрын
I don't think kz3 killed the series, I think shadow fall did. But if anything, I know your referring to dead space as well.
@swaggyd.alford51263 жыл бұрын
I tip my hat at that Dead Space 3 reference good sir
@InfernalMonsoon3 жыл бұрын
Every time someone mentions Dead Space 3, I think fondly of the atmospheric space part that lets you fly from ship to ship, or the ice cold plains reminiscent of The Thing. I think to myself that I could give it a second chance. Then I remember the first 30 minutes where Isaac kills 50 drivers to cross the road in between cover-shooting cultist commandos and think "nah, I'm good".
@matman0000003 жыл бұрын
Lost Planet 3 and Dead Space 3 come to mind
@telophasemusic3 жыл бұрын
Or post-apoc style aka Gears of war 3
@saint_alucardwarthunder75918 күн бұрын
Ayo, I know this video is like 3 years old but I wanted to let you know that fell asleep watching this. I have bad insomnia so that helped me a lot. Thanks for helping me sleep, bro 👍
@thatonefett7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this
@Devilo2713 жыл бұрын
Sony really missed the oportunity to remaster Killzone 2 and 3 this generation.
@Gr4yF0x3 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping for a pc port like Horizon. Unfortunate Horizon needed two more months of optimising. But that is cutting it close to the release of PS5
@eliarevalo3 жыл бұрын
@@eliarevalo I don't believe in a PC port unless they remaster them for ps5 first.
@Gr4yF0x3 жыл бұрын
@@Gr4yF0x when ur a fanboy who wants no one else to play with HIS toys
@KaoticVibes3 жыл бұрын
@@KaoticVibes wtf dude.
@Gr4yF0x3 жыл бұрын
@Trini Gamer as many ppl play it, the better. I don't want it to be exclusive. I just said that Killzone 2 is not a game with great chances of getting a PC port. They ignored it even on ps4. Just that.
@Gr4yF0x3 жыл бұрын
I think shadowfall could've maybe worked if they made it about a civil war trying to topple the Helghast regime, and the ISA was STILL trying to commit Helghast genocide. That way you can still shoot some Helghast and have the morally grey theme be less stupid. And then if the regime is toppled, the ISA can be the big bad in later games, since they've kinda always been dicks, and now you dont have to worry about looking like you support totalitarianism. I don't know how well that would work, but it's just an idea
@kresh29143 жыл бұрын
I love your video, but oh god do I wish I could have a conversation with you and Shadow Fall. I have so much of a perspective to offer in a conversation. great video overall, thank you for covering the Killzone franchise.
@adelheid-ri1tx8 күн бұрын
I loved playing killzone 2 when I was younger. I really do think the helgan armor looks quite cool. It reminds me of the Death Korps of Krieg (see pfp for example).
@archeverything3 жыл бұрын
I loved running up to people and poking their eyes out in Killzone 3's multiplayer. KZ3 was loads of fun for me
@charleshot253 жыл бұрын
KZ3 multiplayer was so much fun
@nexus10273 жыл бұрын
Fucking love KZ3
@sq75073 жыл бұрын
yea i didnt understand the story or anything, just pure fun gameplay.
@shitterfrank3 жыл бұрын
( Boops you in the eye *H A R D* )
@shonklebonkle3243 жыл бұрын
I feel a big "issue" with Killzone was how niche it was too... At the time it didn't appeal to Halo fans because it was seen as the competitor on Playstation (which at the time of KZ2 and 3, the PS3 was already less popular than the 360). It didn't appeal to modern military fans of games like CoD or Medal of Honor because it was too sci-fi. And it didn't appeal to boomer shooter/arena shooter fans of games like DOOM, who might have appreciated the sci-fi aesthetic, because it was too slow, and modern. I can see all of that contributing to Guerrilla attempting to redefine and differentiate the game in an attempt to appeal to any of these fanbases too... Definitely an odd game for it's time, even comparing it to its fellow PS3 shooter Resistance. Though I loved and played both Killzone and Resistance a lot back in high school.
@UnderTheBun3 жыл бұрын
Another point against Killzone post release is that it's not like the PS2 was starved for great shooters. Timesplitters, Project Snowblind, and Black all did the shooty bang bang action better. Controls, gameplay, graphics, frame rate, Killzone just couldn't hold up in comparison. It was just exclusive to the PS2, so it allowed for there to be some console war battles to be fought as to whether Sony would have a "Halo Killer". It's also interesting that for all the focus of a FPS being a halo killer back in those mid 2000s that it was COD4, a game that didn't even try to, that ended up surpassing the sci-fi shooter. By the end of 2007, more people were playing COD4 on the 360 than Halo 3, despite the latter being released in 2 months earlier in September and exclusive just to that console (so there was no other way of playing, whereas COD4 was also on PS3 and PC).
@felman873 жыл бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan to us you are all boomers.
@aceambling76853 жыл бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan nah its cuz you are just as out of touch and delusional as the boomers bucko
@aceambling76853 жыл бұрын
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan and the Jordan Petersen reference flies right over your head, shut up boomer.
@aceambling76853 жыл бұрын
I agree man, KZ2 had the dark, gritty theme I've never seen harnessed in a shooter since. The sequel had a more addictive multi-player aspect but that's as far as it went. Solid video
@stevensomersii5207 Жыл бұрын
nice to see you covering mercenary, i got my PSVita recently and i am loving it. nice to know that theres at least 2 difinitivley good FPS's on vita.
@hgmd328415 күн бұрын
as someone who's a big killzone fan, this vid was fantastic and I think is one of your best easily. Killzone 1 for me is a decent shooter but is rather rough and doesn't reach it's full potential. Liberation for me is actually the 2nd best in the series and is just really solid overall. Killzone 2 is easily the best of the series and one of the best FPS games ever. Everything about it is just extremely well polished and fine tuned that results in a fantastic campaign that always has you on the edge. I'm kinda surprised you didn't mention the music for Killzone or the fact they got actors like Brian Cox, Sean pertwee, and Malcolm mcdowell for the series, as I think they give killzone a lot of character. Plus the Helghast march is awesome. Your theory on Killzone switching it's art style to be more bright and sci fi like to appease people who don't like brown and grey shooters is something I never really thought of but I can 100% agree with that. I personally like the way Killzone 3 looks, even though it's really jarring given it takes place right after 2 but it still remotely resembles killzone albeit more advanced. Shadowfall is where the series I think really started to blend in with the crowd, which was not for the better. Killzone if it kept more in line with the earlier games would've stood out from other shooters now than when it did back then, since as you said Gritty shooters aren't terribly common as they use to be
@MD_Chaos3 жыл бұрын
I hated how Killzone 3 did away with the dark, copper-y colour palette. Took away the gritty atmosphere and made it look like a generic futuristic shooter to me
@Walamonga13133 жыл бұрын
@@Walamonga1313 yeah. I played the series again through the campaign earlier this year, and it was really weird how there's all of a sudden giant death robots and all that stuff at the start of 3.
@mattb40723 жыл бұрын
The evilness of the hellghast always seemed so forced to me Like "they look like nazis so they must be evil" them you read the lore and see how they were exploited workers that suffered under Vekta's laws and decided to rise up So to compensate the fact that the hellgan are the one in the "good side" they make them do saturday morning cartoon vilanous acts
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe60093 жыл бұрын
The isa are a fuck ton more evil than whatever the helgast are interpreted in this game. The hatred for the helgast is so unjustified
@shawklan273 жыл бұрын
@STORM LORD "You cant put ethno nationalism in a game." You know that the Wolfenstein remake games happened, right?
@nachoolo3 жыл бұрын
So it's basically Gundam
@nisnast3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist, Rico of the ISA was the true villain of the Killzone Trilogy, especially in 2 and 3.
@Gruntvc3 жыл бұрын
@@Gruntvc well he killed an entire planet so...
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe60093 жыл бұрын
In kz2 i remember clearly in one mission before you storm visari and radec. Three helgast soldiers, three normal dudes gave me the hardest fight in the entire game. One chucked grenades, the other two shot in intervals. When one reloads the other shoots. Unlike other opponents where id humiliate their corpses, these 3 guys fought so well they had my utter respect, i did not humiliate them, i sat there after killing them, giving them a moment of respectful silence. I wish i couldve gave them a propper burial
@GenuineGuitar566 ай бұрын
amazing video brother
@filo313 жыл бұрын
Cheers to that guy who bought WiiU because shooters looked too gray.
@JayJaySurf5883 жыл бұрын
Pretty much why I bought a wii
@Treetops273 жыл бұрын
I bought mine for bayo 2 and BOTW, imagine my shock when both got ported to switch atleast i can play gamecube games
@mistergremm7353 жыл бұрын
I did this
@statikksheev43903 жыл бұрын
I bought Dreamcast for that reason but haven't really played it.
@kuklama07063 жыл бұрын
I mean I can't say I regret it lmao Xenoblade Chronicles X more than makes up for things
@irl_lizard78803 жыл бұрын
"Space Nazis" is a suprisingly uncrowded niche considering Star Wars exists.
@batmangovno3 жыл бұрын
Star Wars is barely that
@magicjohnson31213 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s as overt as kill zone. Most of the time you’re not thinking that at all
@magicjohnson31213 жыл бұрын
2016's Call of Duty Infinite Warfare pretty much had the enemy faction, the SDF, be space Nazis. It was basically WW2 in space.
@Gruntvc3 жыл бұрын
Star Wars doesn't have any NS imagery other than Darth Vader being inspired by Black Sun wizards.
@GatorMilk3 жыл бұрын
If you want real Space Nazis watch the original Gundam 0079.
@TheAlchemistHome3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the opening cutscene of killzone, and thinking one day games will be able to look like this . We have surpassed the graphics so quickly! Incredible!
@Zuma91 Жыл бұрын
I think only Gears 2 and Killzone 2 were basically the only real tough and gritty multiplayer games I played at the time where simple wrong moves were unforgiving. So much fun though.
@dubugga Жыл бұрын
The whole time I played this series I always asked myself “am I the bad guy?”
@zedsez3 жыл бұрын
@@TPizzle96 At least germany and austria got help, was slowly rebuilding and wasnt literally doomed on a planet made out of plague.
@boarfaceswinejaw45163 жыл бұрын
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 "got help" hah is that what they call it now a days?
@DerNomade18713 жыл бұрын
@@DerNomade1871 i was speaking in general about both world wars, as after ww2 germany recieved aid from the us and the treaty of versailles wars more or less scrapped.
@boarfaceswinejaw45163 жыл бұрын
@@DerNomade1871 They got a raw deal; but they also did alot of help...and then the Great Depression happened and there was no help to give.
@jamesnewcomer49393 жыл бұрын
@akamaro20 look up the locarno treaties, the dawes plan and the young plan. The treaty of versailles was significantly softened and actions were made to make it significantly less severe.
@boarfaceswinejaw45163 жыл бұрын
"more of a focus should have been put on Rico" Said no one else ever
@Magido893 жыл бұрын
Rico is the key to all of this.
@BountyFlamor3 жыл бұрын
Rico was cool in 1 because Haha was there
@edchampion37203 жыл бұрын
yeah they could have delved into why he hates the helghst so much in the game it just feels like he's pissed off at them for the sake of being the enemy but I'm sure there's a reason they never really touched on
@that-guy2132 жыл бұрын
@@that-guy213 lol there's no reason, it's just bad writing
@Magido892 жыл бұрын
@@that-guy213 wasnt his only reason he is pised at Hellgast cuz they killed his budies in platoon? Other than that most of time he is racist psychopath with wich Vecta has a lot.
@Akabans9992 жыл бұрын
40:37 The shot of the guy spitting out his word lining up with you saying "peak" made me laugh harder than I feel I should have. XD
@Fl0wchart Жыл бұрын
A great video analysis
@IllusionisticOrtus2 ай бұрын
I feel like you're downplaying why there was such a backlash against military shooters in the early 2000's. The colour was a factor but there was more to it than that. We went from fighting a variety of things like demons and aliens and soldiers to nothing but soldiers. We went from using weapons that varied from standard to alien, to nothing but the standard pistol/shotgun/assault rifle combo. We went from varied subgenres within fps games (sci-f, military and even fantasy) to nothing but straight military. The characters went from some degree of variety in characters (space marines, scientists, soldiers, warriors) to nothing but soldiers. And then it was simply the fact that the market became saturated in these same style of games.
@stevenguitink59473 жыл бұрын
I agree, these sorts of games became so common that even FPS franchises that werent like this turned into it with their sequels.
@semvision3 жыл бұрын
I mean how is every fps being a keycard hunting doomclone in the 90s any different lol
@MILDMONSTER12343 жыл бұрын
@@MILDMONSTER1234 lol exactly, I'd take shooting and flanking soldiers all the time using responsive and realistic guns over some another bunnyhopping, keycard hunting quake/doom clone. Yeah, I like console shooters, fuck games where you need to jump around one, extremely stupid, bullet spongy demon that requires entire ammo reserve from 8 guns to kill it. Soldiers in "le terrible military shooters" at least have reasonable ammount of health, are way smarter and require tactics other than spamming rocket launcher and strafing left or right around arena full of glowing items and keycards.
@helghast_95393 жыл бұрын
I always liked the Doom formula better overall. But the thing is even if military shooters got a raise in popularity in the 2000´s much like how Doom clones did. By that point the genre had evolved so much that there were still alternatives to military shooters back then and even more so now. Halo. Time Splitters. FEAR FarCry Half Life 2. Metroid Prime. Killzone Meda of Honor. All of them tematically and mechanically different ...In some ways more than others.
@ArmaBiologica353 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the platformer genre
@DarkturtleX3 жыл бұрын
36:30 almost the entire military machine of the helghast was left intact after the destruction of their planet, the Vektan had to either accepted the deal of giving half their shit or face a superior invasion force with nothing to lose and a vengeance to settle.
@TheMauviet3 жыл бұрын
Killzone 1 and 2 were by far my favorite shooters from childhood. The speeches from Visari were amazing and the gunplay felt great. Killzone 3 was also fun and I did enjoy it, but it never felt as good as killzone 2. I recently tried Halo and the bullet sponge of that game made it a struggle for me to play through. Weapons didn't feel impactful at all. Killzone 4 I never played, but looking at the videos I don't regret not paying it. It was this silly one-man army kind of idea. Where the whole game and world revolved around you. Killzone 3 already had this a little bit, as you do end up really saving the world. But even there you didn't do it all by yourself. The other soldiers in the game, even the ones without names, also had an important part to play. I now don't even buy playstations anymore and went completely to computer. Partially I would love to play killzone 5, but I'm not sure if I would get the playstation just for that. I have also moved to the more semi-realistic games. Games like call of duty or battlefield don't do much for me anymore.
@donder913 жыл бұрын
In defense of halo, it is supposed to have a high ttk to incentivize strategy and sandbox mastery over simple reflexes If you use the right weapons, or face a fight in the correct way, you can make short work of almost anything the game throws at you even at max difficulty
@hollowhusk5166 Жыл бұрын
As someone who isn't super critical, I can say I preferred 2 and 3 the best. Shadowfall was not a bad game, but it certainly did not hold the same water. The graphics imo were the best part of it. It had some fun gimmicks with your gear and tech and overall isnt bad for a shooter. But if you enjoyed 2 and/or 3 (I loved both), then SF probably would disappoint you, at least a little. You're likely better off watchinf a playthrough if you still want to get the story. As for the online though, I got no complaints at all. Not as good as 2 and 3 imo but really nothing to complain about either. It was fun from day 1. They condensed the classes down to 3, and combined ideas from Kz2 & 3 for secondary abilities/tech. All of which I found were nicely balanced. They could be OP if used correctly, or near useless if done willy-nilly. If you stuck with your squad, and everyone was strategic with abilities, you would be unstoppable. (Shields, spawn beacons, etc.) I also enjoyed how launchers and other large weapons had to actually be aimed. Rifles and such could still be hip fired, but you wouldnt have people blasting the ground next to you all the time for easy kills. There was a couple maps i didn't care for, but that's the case with nearly every shooter for me. Now there was some controversy when the fourth class, The Insurgent, was added via DLC. At first it seemed like it was going in a pay to win direction. But then this seemingly OP class was given only a pistol to start with. This class could procure weapons off dead enemies, and keep them for the match. They could "steal" their abilities too, though those would reset after a death. The other classes were also given upgrades with their tech to balance it out a bit more. It felt pay to win when you were against them and they were new, but as soon as you got your hands on the class yourself, it became apparent it was still skill based. Definitely a strange and unique scenario in online gaming. Overall, not as well received but still enjoyable in its own right. The biggest problem is the story just wasn't up to snuff, and thats why most fans kinda fell off I believe.
@flandyc4513 Жыл бұрын
Killzone has the best artstyle of any game. I love the Helghasts, they are soo badass looking
@NamedKid10 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I think you missed something about the story of KZ2. In line with what Dave Kaye said below, KZ2's plot has another interesting aspect to it. The narrative about Radec that Dave has extracted from the game is also somewhat applicable to Visari himself. Like Kurtz in Heart of Darkness (or derivatively Col. Kurtz from Apocalypse Now), Visari's last words "The madness... The madness begins!" ("The horror! The horror!" in HoD/ApoNow) seem to suggest that he also went through a lot to bring Helghast society to where it was then, and how much he had to exert control in order to stop infighting (hence "The madness begins!", which we see happening in KZ3, albeit portrayed poorly there). Moreover, the general narrative structure of the story is a bit similar to the boatman's journey or Willard's journey, where the closer they get to the target of their destination (the man who turned savage - Kurtz/Visari), the more insanity/savagery they encounter themselves (Visari nuking his own city, Helghast holding out until the last man, Radec committing suicide, squadmates dying, etc.). I don't know why THAT similarity flew over everyone's head. Does anybody know if GG said aything about being inspired by HoD or ApoNow for the story of KZ2?
@SgtTarkov3 жыл бұрын
huh, interesting, never thought about the similarities between Heart of Darkness and Killzone 2..
@KudiGamer2 жыл бұрын
Visari even resembles Marlon Brando as Kurtz….so Killzone might’ve been trying to do Spec Ops before Spec Ops?
@gman987 Жыл бұрын
who the hell is dave
@Airay552 Жыл бұрын
Killzone and BLACK - one of the most memorable games on PS2 for me.
@tornikeumankoshvili70413 жыл бұрын
Black was way better than Killzone. The latter was kinda boring and bland.
@matheusmelo60223 жыл бұрын
@@matheusmelo6022 black was actually really well made and optimized for ps2 very good not a lot first person shooters on ps2 actually run good and have good frame rate black has good frame rate
@armorwolf79343 жыл бұрын
@@matheusmelo6022 killzone was way better than black imo it had better gameplay a cool multiplayer
@gabenewell39553 жыл бұрын
To this day I never beat the final battle in BLACK. Shit was crazy difficult to me.
@st4ne4rmthevill633 жыл бұрын
@@st4ne4rmthevill63 I remember playing Black when I was like 10 yo and failing at the 2nd level, the forest, when I grew up and replayed the game it was like a ritual moment finishing the Game. Man, I still remember the bridge level.
@GamerTT003 жыл бұрын
40:12 that was a well needed break in the flow for a nice chuckle. I really enjoy this video.
@Alpha00Fox Жыл бұрын
I love this saga, I've played all of them without counting shadow fall.
Killzone has the most interesting lore that is never used in the Killzone games.
The fact they veiled you was playing the bad guys the whole time in the first 4 games since the psp ver. is between 1 and 2.
@@ExeErdna It was so crazy reading up on the lore and going "wait what? The Vectans did _what_ to the Helghast??? We are the baddies!?" And the games did _nothing_ with it. So damned disappointing. Call of Duty has had more nuanced plots. Guerilla was sitting on a storytelling goldmine the whole time.
@@damsen978 Can't be a plot twist when it's not in the plot. Read up on the lore and see how much of that can be found in the actual games.
@@K__a__M__I That's what i mean, a plot twist in the lore.
Killzone lore: the ISA are imperialists Killzone games: but it's ok because every helghast ever is a psychopath
"Even a monkey will write Shakespeare given enough time" "What the fuck is a Shakespeare" That made me laugh
Rico in 1 had a certain charm
@@J.Wolf90 Are you serious
@@mothhh2114 Cancel culture will eventually throw even you under the bus if you don't draw the line.
Thats because Sev doesnt read book, he preaches being up close and finette for kills. So wtf is ... a shakespear but a shake spear ... Lofl ionno bra killzone was good times huh.
@@MrTredBear wtf is cancel culture
The AI in killzone 2 was insane. I remember i got my ass beat by a helghast that got OUT of his scripted role to come to the cargo elevator i was descending on at ISA hq, he fucking jumped down 3 meters from the fence as i was trying to shoot him to stop him, made a tactical roll landing and ended up on my face to instantly knock me out with his rifle stock on my face. Then he proceeded to humiliate me on my dying screen... I never shot at his raid squad during that part ever again.
The AI was so good in that game. They'd also be more aggressive if you backed off, provide cover fire for advancing allies, and throw grenades if you were camping.
@@GangsterFrankensteinComputer let's get that AI level as a standard. Get the children to harden the fuck up and start thinking in strategy. Planning.
Yeah
I always prefered 2 over 3
BRUH YES On my gameplay yesterday, I was in a room, and there was an open door, leading to the open, and there in the open was one of those faster helghasts. So I changed to my revolver since I was out of ammo, and I shot like 3 or 4 times at close range, but the fucker just kinda tricked me dodging left to right and shooting my ass, not only that but when I retreated to take cover and reload HE JUST FUCKING FOLLOWED ME BERSERK MODE AND MELEED THE SHIT OUT OF ME taking advantage of my low health. Never got my ass so beat by a fucking bot like that b4 lol
Killzone was the last first person shooter that me and my dad played together so it will forever have a very special place in my heart. The co-op campaign was incredible and the super badass multiplayer with bots that we could fight, it was perfect game at the time to play together. Miss that guy a lot. Cancer sucks
I'm sorry for your loss, but happy you have that memory of him to look back on.
@@1pikman thank you man! I had buddies who unfortunately never had and or lost theirs very early, so it helped me with a perspective to be thankful of what I had.
❤❤❤❤❤
Cancer does very much suck, but you know what doesn't tho? Being able to look back on your memories with him with fondness and gratitude. Sounds like you had a great relationship with him and that'll never change no matter what. Happy for you my man, may good fortune continue to come to you and your loved ones 🤟
My dad passed away very recently and I came to this video just to replay memories of playing this game with him:/
Killzone always looked like those fake games people play in movies
It still does
Never thought of that before but that's so accurate
It SOUNDS like that too. Didn't they mention a fictional Killzone game in Die Hard 4 or something?
"Dude are you playing Murder Destroy Warfare right now!? We have our SATs tomorrow!"
It actually was the game played in movies at a few points. In House of Cards Kevin Spacey plays Killzone 3 in an early episode.
Killzone, to me, has always felt like an artist came up with really cool concept art that the writers didn't know what to do with.
I can probably write something better than this superficial lore and stories.
@@hamza-trabelsi then do it. we are waiting. take your time
@@hamza-trabelsi it had an incredible premise up until 3, then it kinda just uh became space cod
@@perseastheodoropoulos7367 the game is already done what's the point of writing a story for it ?
@@hamza-trabelsi said no fanfic writer ever
If you look into the lore of Killzone they do have a reason for the Helghast suddenly getting those crazy weapons. The Stahl Arms corporation had been holding its best equipment back because Jorhan Stahl wanted more political power and Visari wasn’t giving it to him, but with Visari dead he began dealing out his weapons to the generals in the war council in hopes of getting the power he wanted and sure enough he got it. he was the complete opposite of Reddac, disloyal, ambitious, and absolutely drunk on his own power
Thank you for mentioning this, thats all i could think of everytime he complained about it being too sci-fi I get it, its not for everyone. But the games straight up gives you this knowledge. Glad I wasn't the only one paying attention.
Though in hindsight, he may have avoided this part to avoid giving out too many spoilers for those who haven't played it.
@@flandyc4513 maybe but the games have been out for quite some time, those who were going to play them have likely played them already
@@djphat94 Yeah I also thought it was a little strange. I have seen one commenter further down saying they picked up KZ2 specifically cause of this video but, it's highly probable that's a niche. Unless they remaster them at some point, which doesn't seem to be a thing anytime soon, if at all.
@@flandyc4513 god I wish they would tho!
Killzone 2 is a grand experience that still holds up today. Technical masterpiece.
It still looks like you are playing a cutscene, I remember the first time I seen gameplay of it, it was at a videogame store called Play N Trade and they were playing it on a flat screen I could not believe how the graphic looked.
agree
Technically it's a good game. Creatively it's about as unique as a match-3 game lol.
(IN 3D)
Loved the multiplayer. Can't remember a single thing about the campaign though
“Helghast” might be the most evil name for a civilization i’ve ever heard
Yeah I loved the space-nazi concept, I remember playing Killzone 3 beta for hours a day as a little kid. It was amazing
we have one already, u.s.a
@@ciphergamingsouthafrica8502 Not anymore, Russia just flew back up too space as well as China
I mean, they live on Helghan...wouldn't they be called Helghani's?
@@ciphergamingsouthafrica8502 This
"This is like if Britian blew up Germany and gave Scotland to the Nazis" Love it
More like australia
Ehhhh nah he skipped over that vekta was originally the helghast homeworld and the ISA invaded and kicked them to helghan. Killzone 1 is literally the helghast trying to take back their planet.
@@SSpider41 half true they used to live on Vekta with the Vakten(?).
@@derkurier2710 Nope. Vekta was founded along side helgan. Vekta was named after the CEO of the Helgan company. Philip Vekta. The first people to move to that planet were of the Helgan mining company who eventually became the helgan empire. Prior to anyone colonizing the planet the Helgan company won the bid for both planets and therefore owned them.
Killzone sections without allies made me feel isolated and fearful really, the sensation that healghast were at every room/corner used to trick me a Lot, playing Halo made me feel more like a supersoldier
I mean, in Killzone you are just a soldier. In Halo Master Chief is the best of the genetically modified super soldiers so it makes sense that you feel that way.
Bruh I ain't watching a hour of killzone lore edit: so I just watched an hour of killzone lore
So how did it go ?
Wow, seeing how good Killzone 2 still looks is astonishing. Even after the massive “downgrades” they still produced something that rivals games made even 5 years later.
There were never any "downgrades", because the original trailer literally wasn't actually footage of the game. It was a cinematic made to LOOK like gameplay, but in actuality is was basically just a glorified cutscene meant to trick people.
I think it looks brown and poorly looking
@@Dev-nr4dw man you're all drunk, Killzone 3 looks way better than 2 and they've always been generic looking shooters. Killzone 2 looking good??? On PS4 with the HD remaster it might look decent enough, on the PS3 its terrible.
Evidence First · 12 Years Ago it wasn’t made to trick people. They sent it to Sony before a lot of development to show what they hoped the game would look like. Sony then released it as a “gameplay trailer.”
@@HOTD108_ Yeah, that's why i put "downgrades" in quotation marks. Even despite the pre-rendered bullshot the game looks positively amazing, and in many ways better than that original trailer.
"Helgan belongs to the Helghast."
I wonder if he actually thought the ISA wanted to take over Helgan seeing as how they already had the grand prize Vekta
Skyrim belongs to the nords
Halo belongs to Bungie
Scholar Visari is smiling at me Vektan, can you say the same?
You belong in a museum
Killzone 2 was one of the best-looking games I'd ever seen up to that point, and all these years later it's still pretty impressive.
I remember waiting for killzone 2 to be launched here. And then realized. "Wait, i don't have a PS3" and never were able to play killzone 2...
It also had some of the most intelligent AI in any game at that time. Like, it's scary how dirty and cleverly the AI will play sometimes just to try and kill you.
@@snazzyjovialwyrm3314 Hell, I remember some bullshit flanking maneuvers that surprised me in the first game even.
I'll tell you as someone who played Killzone when it first came out. The facial models especially during the character select screen were the most realistic graphics I had seen at that time.
It was very impressive , happy to have my copy still working.
The Enemy design was the cool thing in these games. The Helghast even had Mechas. They easily could have continued the Series by making you play as a Helghast Revolutionary.
I also love the space Nazi anehestics too
@@deathtrooper199 Why do the bad guys get cool looking uniforms/outfits and designs? Lol
Being a Helghan Revolutionary planting bombs and causing terror among the ISA would be dope.
@@rejectedkermit1220 Well, the Helgast are technically the good guys in this universe
@@stardude289 I know, but from the game's perspective the Helghast are the "bad guys"
Kids nowadays will never know the joy that could come from a game manual
I wish my generation had that luxury, I still remember reading about the left 4 dead cast in the manual and thinking it was cool leaning about the characters
I want stuff like that now
I always loved reading the manuals on the way home from the game store. Sometimes I would take one out with me for reading material and would actually learn a thing or two about the game, like what certain UI icons meant that aren't explained in-game. Good times.
Halo weapon specs were my favorite. Reading about vehicles and stuff and looking at the pictures was like nibbling down the cherry after a super satisfying desert after an even more satisfying 3 course meal. Now u just download a game it on steam and wiki the info you need or youtube a tutorial. Im absolutely bappy about how convenient it is because i remember when things were so limited. But sad knowing im the last generation of gamer to appreciate those things. But we move on.
@@ssc4649 Old Blizzard games manuals where basically mini novels that got you in the the games world.
I remember buying into all the “Halo killer” hype when this was first coming out. And while it definitely didnt outclass halo, i f-ing loved this game and REALLY appreciated the entire set up. Now that ive been fully reminded of everything i loved about this game i now would like to request a remaster or remake.
Just remember: Calling a game a [blank] killer is a dumb phrase that gaming news outlets game up with. No developer would ever label their game a “[blank]” killer
Tribes 2 anyone
I would like something like that too, I got invested in the franchise too late so I want a second chance we it.
@@BrandonHilikus haloe killer？
I much prefer KZ to Halo They release a new KZ I’ll buy a PS5
Shadowfall: "So, the ISA took in all the refuges from the planet they destroyed when they won the war." Me: "Sure, makes sense." Shadowfall: "Including their soldiers." Me: "Yeah, sure. I mean, when they have surrendered..." Shadowfall: "And they get half the planet." Me: "Hm... ok. Seems a bit excessive, but the ISA took their entire planet, I guess." Shadowfall: "And the forced resetteling of the humans living on Helghast side won't be completted before the planet gets split up." Me: "Ahm... really?" Shadowfall: "And the Helghast get to rule over their side autonomously." Me: "Hang on!" Shadowfall: "And they get to keep all their military equipment and technology." Me: "STOP!"
Going so far as to make their planet uninhabitable the only sane option is to go all out until there's no one left to get revenge
Yeah the whole set up to me kinda implies the helghast had a super weapon pointed at the isa head during the negotiations
The only thing I can think of is the lack of desire of the Vectan government to put at any real effort or resources to integrate the two. If the Helghast can keep their military forces and form their government and stay on their side, then less problems for the Vektans. With the outcomes of both the first and second extrasolar wars, they must have given up trying to make true peace with the Helghast.
I mean the Isa planet was originaly the helghasts planet before they stole it from them lore wise the Isa are the bad guys
STAPH !!
In a documentary over Horizon: Zero Dawn, a member of Guerilla Games states that the story was never written in-house. They outsourced that to a separate team of writers every time, and I think it really shows. If it’s true that they’re working on another Killzone, I hope it’s a reboot w/a dedicated writing team like HZD.
Main writer of Horizon was former Fallout New Vegas writer, i believe
Isn't the twist at the end of Horizon That a bunch of literal dude bro scientist caused the end of the world?
MrZurata no, 1 dude bro scientist started the apocalypse and then later he betrayed all the good scientists to cover it up.
DacAttack2142 I would say Ted Faro is more of an evil, impatient Elon Musk while the guy that wrote HADES was definitely a dude-bro.
@@DraphEnjoyer Yeah the story of HZD was pretty shitty tbh. First putting the world and after that writing a half-assed story isnt qorking so often .
Hopefully we'll get a video about the Resistance games.
Brit made a video on 3 which he liked but he doesn't like the first 2.
@@Gus1494 Cool. I'll check that out.
I wanna see him do a video On the dark souls games
I couldn't play those. the fov gave me headaches and nausea. a shame because i hear insomniac did a good job with those games.
Loved the entire series despite each game being very different from one another. 2's my favorite despite 3 having the best mechanics.
Ok, so one cool idea for KZ 3 and Shadowfall I came up with while watching this would have been if, in 3, it maintained its gritty and grounded tone, with the nuking of Helghan being actually an accident, with the characters not knowing/caring for the superweapon, just them actually trying to leave and maybe they shoot down a fighter which crashes into the superweapon or some other cheesy stuff, nuking Helghan. After that, Vekta actually takes in the Helghast refugees, and tries to integrate them into Vektan society (so no goofy partition), except both in the government and general populace there is a lot of mistrust and discrimination against the Helghast, who would still probably live in tangibly worse conditions on average compared to most Vektans. There could be a lot of urban guerrilla warfare between the two sides, the Helghast, angered by the nuking of their homeworld and discrimination they face on Vekta, radicalised by their miserable conditions, and the Vektans being exceptionally distrustful of the Helghast, with anti-Helghast militias being more or less covertly supported by the Vektan government. This would add some grey to it, with the Helghast adopting some sort of Post-Helghast-ism, or either way a reformed ideology that cherished the virtues and rights of Visari’s regime, while diminishing or condemning its crimes, be it out of genuine desire to change, or as a way to mask a will to return to that ultranationalist, revanchist totalitarianism. Furthermore, taking place decades into the future compared to 3, it would -as you said- justify the more bright and overtly sci-fi elements. And it would have fairly modest objectives, for example the player could be a soldier/policeman in the ISA (maybe in a squad with some Helghast or Mixed-heritage people thrown in as well) who has the fairly simple and modest objective of keeping the peace, by countering guerrilla activity, nominally by both Helghast and Vektan extremists, though the orders you get would certainly have a bias against the Helghast, with you maybe taking part in some “questionable” actions.
I has more fun reading this than playing shadowfall tbh lol
That would have been cool
It's a shame there's no mention of how amazing Killzone 2's online multiplayer was.
KZ 2 MP was awesome
It was so great! I think about it occasionally
@@AC-hj9tv Ditto. I find myself getting way too excited and nostalgic describing it to people.
@@mazack00 really wish we could get it on pc
@@AC-hj9tv it wouldn't feel the same. Being forced to use controllers with the same sensitivity settings was a real balancer.
The snow in Killzone 3, I love how they made the snow affecting your vision so much, being everywhere and strong, not just like a skin for a map.
^this. In most games weather effects are just an overlay on screen instead of effecting the environment! Killzone 3 has some of the best snow I've ever seen in games
@@leonc9760 MGS4
@@leonc9760 I wish I could have experienced it in that 3d effect the game was pushed along side the sony 3d gaming tv
@@suri_exe8117 imma about to give a negative feedback, but realized that mgs4 is still a playstation exclusive, so I let you go
@@imnotaracistokay I was mostly talking about the snow, not the game in general. If you wanna shit on the game go for it lol
Despite being the epitome of the mid-2000’s gray washed out trend I do still appreciate some of the heavy grunge and industrial aesthetics of the game, everything’s dirty and bombed out, it’s kind of like the Terminator video game we never got.
It’s also why I am weirded out by the design of Shadow Fall, it doesn’t gel with the rest of the series and looks more akin to a Mirrors Edge Catalyst more than anything.
Terminator Resistance is genuinely the closest I think we'll ever get. Decent game tbf.
The new terminator game does have that look
Playing through the teracite ruins on shadow fall gave me the same exact feeling, actually enhanced the experience quite a bit, which before that had been a bit of a forced stealth slog, but with that thought in mind I actually had a shitload of fun sneaking through the ruins avoiding the combat drones and other robots
If you like that style and into older games, I suggest you try C-12 : Final Resistance on PS1.
Every shots and firefights in Kill zone 2 feels like a damn cutscenes where you can control it freely
Thx for mentioning Killzone Mercenary! I’ve had a vita for a while, but barely used it until now. I’ve never played any other Killzone, but I’ve been hooked to this game and think it’s really underrated.
I bought another vita since I lost mine years ago and still enjoy playing kill one mercenary. I think there’s still multiplayer servers active
KZ mercenary was so my jam. Love the online play and the campaign.
Funny how in the end, all the "Halo Killers" had to do, was wait for Halo to kill itself.
I dunno if you can quite describe it as killed. 20 years, 9 games and only one had a legitimately poor campaign.
James Neave while thats true, its reputation has gone down significantly since about 2013 or whenever 343 took over
@@MostlyPennyCat Halo not as good as it used to be though, 343 kinda dragged it through the mud, 4 was okay if you liked call of duty, 5 followed EAs mentality that nobody liked solo player anymore and produced a shit campaign and I got no expectations for infinite because with how 343 just remastered reach to have the new stupid ass system that forces players to play multiplayer to level up that shows that they aren't doing the series justice
I replayed 4 recently. 4 should have been an X1 launch title. It's problem was the 360 was too much a limiting factor. I genuinely like the campaign, minus the boring AI, but that's a hardware limit. Yes there was a style change, I didn't love it, didn't hate it. I love Halo Wars 1 & 2. Spartan Ops was a _fantastic_ idea badly implemented (boring levels) 5. 5 was just, ugh, yuck, no. Nonono. Infinite should have targeted the next generation. But infinite looks _gorgeous_ Original halo art style with a pbr engine and hub and spoke level design. Yes please, yes please very much. And halo wars 3. And some other spin offs, like bungie did with odst. I just don't understand why they stopped doing stuff in this way. Side projects, movies, books, RTS games. Offload all that stuff, separate MP from SP into MCC, have 343 focus on engine design and main story campaign. _how is this so difficult to figure out???_ I think it's far from killed. But there opportunity is still there. They need to change the focus. Individual components do not need to be profitable and million copy sellers. Like Netflix and HBO, get some good products, take risks to find them, get people subscribed to game pass. This is the business model now. It _could, should_ be glorious.
@@erikgardner4777 I like both call of duty and halo, halo first, neither of them felt anything like cod, I feel like using that Insult is just lazy and bandwagoning because it isn't a pure halo experience from the originals
RIP Killzone. The website died recently and it looks like we will never get another game. I really wanted a killzone game where we could play as a Helgahst soldier to see the other side of the conflict
Same ;_;
Said every single Killzone player ever.
@@RonJeremy514 Indeed.
I love the fact that Helgahast are justified in there hate for the other side but they let that hate consume them so totally they... go over the top shale we say
That'd be hard to do, because of the heavy Nazi themes. Being able to play as futuristic Nazi's then go kill people doesn't look good.
Killzone 2&3 multiplayer will always have a special place in my heart
It's an experience I'll likely never get again
I miss game manuals. In the early 2000s they kinda died out due to digital alternative. Metal Gear Solids PS manual was the most interesting book I saw from a game. It had hidden things and even a codec number tou needed for later in the game. So if you dodnt read it or look at the case at all you will miss out on story and gameplay. It was brilliant.
True but the Colonol did have our backs if we were too stupid for that lol. That was about the only time Campbell didn't do us dirty. Although, I don't remember her codec being in the manual. I remember it on the back of the CD case.
So far you talked about Jak & Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, Killzone, DmC, and Revengeance. Don't stop until you made videos on every franchise featured in Playstation All-Stars. *I await your Fat Princess retrospective, Charlie.*
2021 Sly Cooper retrospective or I eat my hat
Make Fat Princess to TGB as Sly Cooper is to B-mask
Fat Princess was one of the funnest multiplayer games I’ve played honestly, they need to make a true sequel
@@Kriss_ch. His other half already made a Sly Cooper retrospective. His name is B-Mask.
I kinda want Infamous tbh.
It's nice seeing some actual attention being given to Killzone 2. It's a game I've played many times before but I've never seen it talked about. I always came back to it for its brutal and gritty aesthetic and it's definitely something it nailed where other shooters that tried failed. One thing it did I find interesting is design the game to be played without a HUD. There's an option to turn it off and I've played it many times that way and got way more immersed in it. Health is determined by color of the screen (something that wasn't as common back then) and the guns make a different sound when firing them on low ammo, so you are aware when you're about to run dry. Just a neat little thing I don't recall being done in other shooters
Another game that I love without hud are the first two metro games. So fun and the game has a lot of physical stuff to keep track of things instead of hud
Killzone 2 was some of my favorite Multiplayer at the time as well. Really loved how much the classes impacted gameplay while having a "realistic" and gritty feel to it.
2° best multiplayer I ever played in the PS3
Warhammer 40k Space marine does a similar thing with the guns. The game is very hectic and switches between melee and ranged at the drop of a hat. So guns sound different when almost empty so you don't have to look down at your ammo bar.
Just read that in its lore, apparently the ISA enacted an incredibly unfair trade deal that basically screwed over the Helghast into a great depression, then Scolar Visari had them rise up to basically fight back against this... then we play as the ISA... who push the "bad guys" back in the ground. I remember loving Killzone 2 back in the day, but now I feel like the ISA were the bad guys all along. Am I wrong?
Yes your wrong
@@quatreraberbawinner2628he’s not wrong but he’s not right the ISA did fuck up the Helghast and sent them off of their home-world to a cancer planet but the Helghast also did some fucked up shit after that,the Killzone lore is literally both sides are evil in their own right,The Helghast fight because they were sent off to die by plague and famine and the Isa fight because all they know is that the Helghast are going to murder everyone on your home-world and they do not care for civilians both are evil and unless you read into it you automatically believe the Isa like a Isa grunt but if you read the lore you will see that both are not good
Not even a little. Hail Visari!
Honestly I feel like the biggest obstacle that impeded the first Killzone's potential being fully realized was, other than the technical limitations of the console it was designed for, it was pushed into this role of being "the Halo killer." When game journalists invented the concept of "the game that would arrive and dethrone Halo as the king of the FPS genre" they did a great disservice to writers, artists, and developers because they had now artificially altered how the public would react to these games. There was so much hype and expectation to be a Halo killer that it prevented some of these games from just being what they were intended to.
The devs called their games this internally, too. CoD MW comes to mind.
Amazing how Shadow Fall's way to make your character want to put an end to Helghan genocide was to *make him simp for a Helghan girl*
They had a real chance to show how much the lines were blurred between the helghast and the vsa, but no.
But we have to appreciate, she was t h i c c.
Blaukraut ohne Knödel she looked p skinny bro ngl
@@Etzelsschizo What was the character's name? I can't remember her
@@ironduke5058 Maya Visari
I feel like the only reason ShadowFall and Second Son exist was that Sony needed strong first party launches to showcase the power of the PS4.
This guy gets it.
Yeah. I was really dissapointed with Second Son, being a fan of the franchise...
@@0uttaS1TE as much as I loved the good ending in InFamous 2, I would of loved to see Cole again. And see how SuckerPunch would write him as the main bad guy.
@@0uttaS1TE Dunno man,InFanmous 2 showed that their writing staff REALLY couldnt handle even the comparatively small differences between the two endings of 1,cant even imagine how they would have fucked up a third entry(that isnt just a tech-demo with a completely half assed and negligible story...oh hey thar Second Son).
@@0uttaS1TE There was a pretty big difference in the form of how the narrative handled Cole´s relationship with Zeke which the second game then just handwaves away DESPITE being such a comparetatively small part. I absolutely cant see them handle the vastly different endings of 2 if they couldnt even be arsed to handle that detail.
Would love to go back in time and relive my Killzone 2 experience. Easily one of my favorite games I used to play.
37:00 to be fair I kinda interpreted that has more of a punishment against Vekta than a win for the Helghans. The start of Killzone Two shows that the central government on Earth forbade Vekta and the ISA from invading Helghan, insisting on a blockade instead. But ISA went YOLO, which ended up in what was basically a mass murder of a billion Helghans, mainly civilians. So I think Earth's government was like "ok, you fucked up. Now you must be punished" and that's why half the planet was given to the Helghan. But refugees also went to other planets, as it is shown in the in game lore about another colony's political situation
"I'm buying a Wii u to escape brown and grey shooters" Is now my new favourite phrase
I actually did that at the time. Had to get back to Nintendo after getting bored of the call of duty and GTA clones.
As a POC i can't believe he would say something like that
@@Maestro-gh2ei As a gray person, I'm offended.
@@Maestro-gh2ei why? Are you saying that people of color don't like color?
@@jamainegardner4193 was a joke
"When you defeat Radec..." You mean "IF you defeat Radec"
"You seem to want this to be personal. It will be my pleasure."
You never defeat Radec. He denies you victory by taking matters into his own hands. ;) (that even assumes it's the REAL Radec, as there's support in the narrative that it may be an imposter, though KZ3 and SF threw much of the story out the window to do their own thing so they never followed up on this)
I spent two weeks with my dad defeating the final boss on medium difficulty
@@amiiru2251 I believe it. I know people who spent weeks not being able to pass the rocket launcher corridor section on the hard difficulty, or the ATAC fight without using the rocket launcher cheese on the hardest difficulty.
@@davekaye5483 dude killzone 2 is the best and most graphically realistic and enjoyable game. I got it with my ps3 slim when I was six, I didn't have that much fun before (I am an introvert). Me and my dad used to take turns, it was a blast. Now he passed away, and I got my hands on killzone 3, I'd always imagine me and him taking turns.. I am really happy that this game has a big community that's still going.
Man Im a huge fan of your videos. Really fantastic work and super articulated points.
If anyone is still confused by the franchise's story and premise. It's basically one huge dick-tugging competition of genocide and war crimes with a very anti-war rhetoric to it. Nobody is the good guy in Killzone. The ISA are just a bunch of missfit mercenaries who act as pawns for Earth and the New Vektan government with the sole purpose of keeping the Helghast in check, even if it means resorting to genocide to do so(of which they do in Killzone 3 and Shadowfall). The Helghast, while ultimately the victims in the grand scheme of things, opted to becoming a harsh, violent fascist super power with the sole intention of taking back Vekta from their enemies. None of them sound good by any means.
I've always really liked Radec, nice to see someone giving him due praise. His characterization in his cutscenes from Playstation All Stars is excellent too.
Speaking of PlayStation AllStars, I always found it a bit funny how Radec, who's supposed to be super devoted to Helghan, just sort of dips in the middle of a full-scale invasion to go fight Sir Daniel and shit. Soldier: Colonel Radec! The enemy is at our gates! What shall we do, sir?! *realizes he's not there.* "Sir?" He soon finds a note, which reads... "Yo, there's this giant purple head somewhere that might or might not be a threat to us. I'm gonna go check it out. BRB."
Sony were is PlayStation All-Stars 2,its 2020.
@@vash_the_stampede6570 0:34 What is that from?
Sean Pertwee is a fantastic actor and really brought the character to life. I have no idea why he isn't being cast in more stuff. Dude's like a walking Oscar performance and yet he keeps getting stuck in awful straight-to-DVD flicks. While I'm happy to see he got some exposure in Gotham as Alfred Pennyworth, the guy really deserves much better. Why he isn't in Marvel movies or something of a Star Wars-level caliber I have no idea.
@@thevideogamehunger0134 sly Cooper
Killzone Mercenary is a legitimately fantastic handheld shooter. So underrated
yup, still the best handheld shooter i played, and honestly one of the better shooters ever released. the amount of replayability of each mission due to vanguards and weapons was crazy. also the multiplayer was legitimately good and they even released bots through the botzome dlc later, so you could always go back to play it
I don't think it's underrated at all. It's only serious problem was the unpopular platform.
This is hands down one of the best written gaming essay videos I have ever seen on KZhead. Well done!
Well done, man! Excellent work, and some original observations. I think we were lucky to grow up through the evolution of gaming during the 2000s, even if the decade otherwise was rubbish.
KZhead’s getting real comfortable with these double ads 👀
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@@giehlemanns yet I still have not played it
I hate it.
I’m so fucking fed up with it.
Too comfortable....
Man i've been desperate to play Killzone 2 again lately. This video hits deep
Dude i would love to play this shit outta it again too I wish emulation would come along to pick up the third console generation already! They still haven't gotten good Xbox Original emulation either though
Always enjoy your vids bro, hope things are going well.
Theyre all on playstation now if you get a subscription
Killzone 2 multiplayer was awesome. It needs a modern remaster. For PC lol I wonder it can play lan on PS3...
Do like i did... I bought a used PS3 cheap and bought both killzones
I always liked the idea of the killzone games. I never played 2 but watching your gameplay of it looks like more fun than I’ve had in a while. Shadow fall I’ll admit I only had so much fun was because that beginning smg/sniper thing was so cool and I had a lot of fun using that gun.
For an hour long video you presented this brilliantly and well scripted and to the point. Well done. You have a new sub :)
"Grey conflicts" in pop media boil down to two things. 1. The bad guys are actually good 2. BOTH SIDES
Well yeah...how else would you depict a grey conflict?
Jotaro97 I haven’t watched it but the vibe I got was that “sometimes one-man dictatorship/absolute monarchy is more effective that flawed democracy in war”
@@efrenyalung1348 thats pretty close
When I said both sides I meant both sides being bad.
@@themagalanium9491 Good "Grey Conflicts" that aren't trying to be grey for edginesses sake, as mentioned above, usually aren't as concerned with making a statement on who's right or wrong (which kind of defeats the purpose in my eyes) as much as they are exploring the how and why of people choosing to believe what they believe in relation to a larger world.
I’m glad someone out here appreciates big man Boris for the legendary lad he is.
Indeed. It sparks much joy.
Indeed. I wish they made remastered version and for pc as well. In fact put all Killzone games to PC like they are doing it now with Halo. That might restart the interest for the franchise.
Man i wish i played that game, Boris sounds like my favorite kind of character
@@CliffuckingBooth They brought horizon to pc. I think Killzone would be a good choice for the pc as well. If they do it I hope they include the multiplayer .
Yellow as piss
ok. this video is a masterpiece. thank u for making it :).
I never really got into the FPS genre, but I loved Killzone 2, especially the multiplayer. I loved the deliberate nature of the combat. Taking your time and thinking actually paid off. That's the same reason I loved the multiplayer in The Last of Us.
Freaking Killzone 2 man. Needs a Remaster
The whole series
I would love a Killzone Trilogy Remaster for PS5. I would love it even more if they did a remake of Killzone 1 with the intense grit of Killzone 2. to come along with it.
It needs a remake these games are shit.
would like it on PC since Kz2 had no aim assist anyways.
Man, Killzone 2 was the game of my childhood. Even when I replayed it, I still enjoyed it so much. Just seeing the familiar sights of Corynthe River, the living blocks, and those sweet-sweet guns (Sta-52 is still the best) brings so many memories of playing it with my dad. Great game.
12:11 "In the words of pop culture´s most famous black gas mask wearing space totalitarian, `this is where the fun begins´ " Nice touch.
Mauler never said that
@@raddarat8471 Ah, a fellow member of the Toxic Brood
Didn't understood the reference 😔
Sorry, I had EFAP on the brain. They where referring to Darth Vader. My bad.
@@scoutwaffle6125 Kid Anakin
Damn, nice video. A really nice indepth look at the series.
Shadowfall could have easily fixed a lot of issues by having the integration happen, but have Helghast remnants be the bad guys who want to restore the old ways. The guerilla warfare of the 1st game is now flipped. The world could be setup to still have slums for Helghast who had extreme difficulty integrating or refusal to do so, while also presenting criticisms of free market society. You can still pit ISA against Helghast, but frame it as extremists who refuse to see an option for peace or are severely undercut by the change in society. You could also have had levels that show the stark differences of lifestyle and drawing that inspiration from East vs West germany circa 1970s, but in space.
I've been saying "Space Nazis" as a joke to describe the Helghan for years now. But there's something magical about it being in writing.
there's actual good conversation between these ideologies, which modern games lack. this creates purpose(maybe I created it myself through these discussin ingame), i dont feel similar purpose in many more modern games.
@Cody Sonnet your name is cody dude spend some time off the Internet its rotting your 13 year old brain
@Cody Sonnet cringe
@Cody Sonnet A Nazi apologist and anti-mask advocate. LOL
@Cody Sonnet Germany was attacked? Are you referencing when Germany killed a bunch of convicts, and then dressed them in Polish uniforms as a false flag attack to try justifying the invasion of Poland? Because that's what it was, Nazi propaganda.
I really want a killzone 2 pc port now :(
halloooo
I guess use emulator
Yes please..
Guerrilla please
I remember when i got killzone 2 "new" at gamestop back in 2009. The game wasn't even sealed like wtf, how did they sell me the game $60 new if it's open. They just put the disc inside the box and sold it to me like that for $60. I was young so tbh I didn't really care. F gamestop tho.
This very well made Nice job
Killzone 2 is still one of my favourite FPS games of all time. It was like playing a cinematic it looked so good.
Moral of the story is" Don't follow a craze, be your thing" And i too miss rough, grey look of the games from 2000-2010.
I don't at all, I dislike(and disliked) that look just fine without any pretentions towards enlightenment as brit mentions in the video , lol. But I completely agree with the moral. A trailer for a wacky colorful shooter now is just as annoying to me as the trailer for a new brown mid-2000s cover shooter was back then, even though I prefer something lighter in that style. You can't exactly dictate marketplace variety, but it would be nice if the pendulum didn't swing the same way for so many studios at once.
I much prefer the current trend of retro boomer shooters (Dusk, AmidEvil, Ion Maiden, etc) to the mid-2000s shooters, simply because they’re less restrictive and more kinetic in terms of their gameplay mechanics.
@@Kriss_ch. Saved me the trouble of typing out this comment myself. Thank you.
Killzone 2 LOOKS BETTER than that fake video for sure, it's honestly one of the best lookers on the PS3, I'm sad it lost itself honestly, it was such a unique game.
KZ is my favourite fps series. 2 was chefs kiss. Great video! Really brought me back. An Unreal Engine 5 PS5 KZ more in line with KZ 2 would be amazing.
I bought killzone 2 because of this video and it is incredible. Thank you for the great video
Killzone as a series is something that, as soon as it leaves my sight, I completely forget about it
Yea lol
Such a great way to put it. I loved playing them but I cannot remember the story for the life of me.
@@mikedrop4421 All I remember badass gasmask men and hating the ISA
Thank god for horizon though
you know it's funny scrolling down the comments....I can FEEL it slipping out of my mind.
Killzone. Another victim of the third game being in an ice world aka "Ice Guys Finish Last" approach
I don't think kz3 killed the series, I think shadow fall did. But if anything, I know your referring to dead space as well.
I tip my hat at that Dead Space 3 reference good sir
Every time someone mentions Dead Space 3, I think fondly of the atmospheric space part that lets you fly from ship to ship, or the ice cold plains reminiscent of The Thing. I think to myself that I could give it a second chance. Then I remember the first 30 minutes where Isaac kills 50 drivers to cross the road in between cover-shooting cultist commandos and think "nah, I'm good".
Lost Planet 3 and Dead Space 3 come to mind
Or post-apoc style aka Gears of war 3
Ayo, I know this video is like 3 years old but I wanted to let you know that fell asleep watching this. I have bad insomnia so that helped me a lot. Thanks for helping me sleep, bro 👍
Thank you for sharing this
Sony really missed the oportunity to remaster Killzone 2 and 3 this generation.
I’m hoping for a pc port like Horizon. Unfortunate Horizon needed two more months of optimising. But that is cutting it close to the release of PS5
@@eliarevalo I don't believe in a PC port unless they remaster them for ps5 first.
@@Gr4yF0x when ur a fanboy who wants no one else to play with HIS toys
@@KaoticVibes wtf dude.
@Trini Gamer as many ppl play it, the better. I don't want it to be exclusive. I just said that Killzone 2 is not a game with great chances of getting a PC port. They ignored it even on ps4. Just that.
I think shadowfall could've maybe worked if they made it about a civil war trying to topple the Helghast regime, and the ISA was STILL trying to commit Helghast genocide. That way you can still shoot some Helghast and have the morally grey theme be less stupid. And then if the regime is toppled, the ISA can be the big bad in later games, since they've kinda always been dicks, and now you dont have to worry about looking like you support totalitarianism. I don't know how well that would work, but it's just an idea
I love your video, but oh god do I wish I could have a conversation with you and Shadow Fall. I have so much of a perspective to offer in a conversation. great video overall, thank you for covering the Killzone franchise.
I loved playing killzone 2 when I was younger. I really do think the helgan armor looks quite cool. It reminds me of the Death Korps of Krieg (see pfp for example).
I loved running up to people and poking their eyes out in Killzone 3's multiplayer. KZ3 was loads of fun for me
KZ3 multiplayer was so much fun
Fucking love KZ3
yea i didnt understand the story or anything, just pure fun gameplay.
( Boops you in the eye *H A R D* )
I feel a big "issue" with Killzone was how niche it was too... At the time it didn't appeal to Halo fans because it was seen as the competitor on Playstation (which at the time of KZ2 and 3, the PS3 was already less popular than the 360). It didn't appeal to modern military fans of games like CoD or Medal of Honor because it was too sci-fi. And it didn't appeal to boomer shooter/arena shooter fans of games like DOOM, who might have appreciated the sci-fi aesthetic, because it was too slow, and modern. I can see all of that contributing to Guerrilla attempting to redefine and differentiate the game in an attempt to appeal to any of these fanbases too... Definitely an odd game for it's time, even comparing it to its fellow PS3 shooter Resistance. Though I loved and played both Killzone and Resistance a lot back in high school.
Another point against Killzone post release is that it's not like the PS2 was starved for great shooters. Timesplitters, Project Snowblind, and Black all did the shooty bang bang action better. Controls, gameplay, graphics, frame rate, Killzone just couldn't hold up in comparison. It was just exclusive to the PS2, so it allowed for there to be some console war battles to be fought as to whether Sony would have a "Halo Killer". It's also interesting that for all the focus of a FPS being a halo killer back in those mid 2000s that it was COD4, a game that didn't even try to, that ended up surpassing the sci-fi shooter. By the end of 2007, more people were playing COD4 on the 360 than Halo 3, despite the latter being released in 2 months earlier in September and exclusive just to that console (so there was no other way of playing, whereas COD4 was also on PS3 and PC).
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan to us you are all boomers.
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan nah its cuz you are just as out of touch and delusional as the boomers bucko
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan and the Jordan Petersen reference flies right over your head, shut up boomer.
I agree man, KZ2 had the dark, gritty theme I've never seen harnessed in a shooter since. The sequel had a more addictive multi-player aspect but that's as far as it went. Solid video
nice to see you covering mercenary, i got my PSVita recently and i am loving it. nice to know that theres at least 2 difinitivley good FPS's on vita.
as someone who's a big killzone fan, this vid was fantastic and I think is one of your best easily. Killzone 1 for me is a decent shooter but is rather rough and doesn't reach it's full potential. Liberation for me is actually the 2nd best in the series and is just really solid overall. Killzone 2 is easily the best of the series and one of the best FPS games ever. Everything about it is just extremely well polished and fine tuned that results in a fantastic campaign that always has you on the edge. I'm kinda surprised you didn't mention the music for Killzone or the fact they got actors like Brian Cox, Sean pertwee, and Malcolm mcdowell for the series, as I think they give killzone a lot of character. Plus the Helghast march is awesome. Your theory on Killzone switching it's art style to be more bright and sci fi like to appease people who don't like brown and grey shooters is something I never really thought of but I can 100% agree with that. I personally like the way Killzone 3 looks, even though it's really jarring given it takes place right after 2 but it still remotely resembles killzone albeit more advanced. Shadowfall is where the series I think really started to blend in with the crowd, which was not for the better. Killzone if it kept more in line with the earlier games would've stood out from other shooters now than when it did back then, since as you said Gritty shooters aren't terribly common as they use to be
I hated how Killzone 3 did away with the dark, copper-y colour palette. Took away the gritty atmosphere and made it look like a generic futuristic shooter to me
@@Walamonga1313 yeah. I played the series again through the campaign earlier this year, and it was really weird how there's all of a sudden giant death robots and all that stuff at the start of 3.
The evilness of the hellghast always seemed so forced to me Like "they look like nazis so they must be evil" them you read the lore and see how they were exploited workers that suffered under Vekta's laws and decided to rise up So to compensate the fact that the hellgan are the one in the "good side" they make them do saturday morning cartoon vilanous acts
The isa are a fuck ton more evil than whatever the helgast are interpreted in this game. The hatred for the helgast is so unjustified
@STORM LORD "You cant put ethno nationalism in a game." You know that the Wolfenstein remake games happened, right?
So it's basically Gundam
Plot twist, Rico of the ISA was the true villain of the Killzone Trilogy, especially in 2 and 3.
@@Gruntvc well he killed an entire planet so...
In kz2 i remember clearly in one mission before you storm visari and radec. Three helgast soldiers, three normal dudes gave me the hardest fight in the entire game. One chucked grenades, the other two shot in intervals. When one reloads the other shoots. Unlike other opponents where id humiliate their corpses, these 3 guys fought so well they had my utter respect, i did not humiliate them, i sat there after killing them, giving them a moment of respectful silence. I wish i couldve gave them a propper burial
amazing video brother
Cheers to that guy who bought WiiU because shooters looked too gray.
Pretty much why I bought a wii
I bought mine for bayo 2 and BOTW, imagine my shock when both got ported to switch atleast i can play gamecube games
I did this
I bought Dreamcast for that reason but haven't really played it.
I mean I can't say I regret it lmao Xenoblade Chronicles X more than makes up for things
"Space Nazis" is a suprisingly uncrowded niche considering Star Wars exists.
Star Wars is barely that
I don’t think it’s as overt as kill zone. Most of the time you’re not thinking that at all
2016's Call of Duty Infinite Warfare pretty much had the enemy faction, the SDF, be space Nazis. It was basically WW2 in space.
Star Wars doesn't have any NS imagery other than Darth Vader being inspired by Black Sun wizards.
If you want real Space Nazis watch the original Gundam 0079.
I remember seeing the opening cutscene of killzone, and thinking one day games will be able to look like this . We have surpassed the graphics so quickly! Incredible!
I think only Gears 2 and Killzone 2 were basically the only real tough and gritty multiplayer games I played at the time where simple wrong moves were unforgiving. So much fun though.
The whole time I played this series I always asked myself “am I the bad guy?”
@@TPizzle96 At least germany and austria got help, was slowly rebuilding and wasnt literally doomed on a planet made out of plague.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 "got help" hah is that what they call it now a days?
@@DerNomade1871 i was speaking in general about both world wars, as after ww2 germany recieved aid from the us and the treaty of versailles wars more or less scrapped.
@@DerNomade1871 They got a raw deal; but they also did alot of help...and then the Great Depression happened and there was no help to give.
@akamaro20 look up the locarno treaties, the dawes plan and the young plan. The treaty of versailles was significantly softened and actions were made to make it significantly less severe.
"more of a focus should have been put on Rico" Said no one else ever
Rico is the key to all of this.
Rico was cool in 1 because Haha was there
yeah they could have delved into why he hates the helghst so much in the game it just feels like he's pissed off at them for the sake of being the enemy but I'm sure there's a reason they never really touched on
@@that-guy213 lol there's no reason, it's just bad writing
@@that-guy213 wasnt his only reason he is pised at Hellgast cuz they killed his budies in platoon? Other than that most of time he is racist psychopath with wich Vecta has a lot.
40:37 The shot of the guy spitting out his word lining up with you saying "peak" made me laugh harder than I feel I should have. XD
A great video analysis
I feel like you're downplaying why there was such a backlash against military shooters in the early 2000's. The colour was a factor but there was more to it than that. We went from fighting a variety of things like demons and aliens and soldiers to nothing but soldiers. We went from using weapons that varied from standard to alien, to nothing but the standard pistol/shotgun/assault rifle combo. We went from varied subgenres within fps games (sci-f, military and even fantasy) to nothing but straight military. The characters went from some degree of variety in characters (space marines, scientists, soldiers, warriors) to nothing but soldiers. And then it was simply the fact that the market became saturated in these same style of games.
I agree, these sorts of games became so common that even FPS franchises that werent like this turned into it with their sequels.
I mean how is every fps being a keycard hunting doomclone in the 90s any different lol
@@MILDMONSTER1234 lol exactly, I'd take shooting and flanking soldiers all the time using responsive and realistic guns over some another bunnyhopping, keycard hunting quake/doom clone. Yeah, I like console shooters, fuck games where you need to jump around one, extremely stupid, bullet spongy demon that requires entire ammo reserve from 8 guns to kill it. Soldiers in "le terrible military shooters" at least have reasonable ammount of health, are way smarter and require tactics other than spamming rocket launcher and strafing left or right around arena full of glowing items and keycards.
I always liked the Doom formula better overall. But the thing is even if military shooters got a raise in popularity in the 2000´s much like how Doom clones did. By that point the genre had evolved so much that there were still alternatives to military shooters back then and even more so now. Halo. Time Splitters. FEAR FarCry Half Life 2. Metroid Prime. Killzone Meda of Honor. All of them tematically and mechanically different ...In some ways more than others.
Sounds like the platformer genre
36:30 almost the entire military machine of the helghast was left intact after the destruction of their planet, the Vektan had to either accepted the deal of giving half their shit or face a superior invasion force with nothing to lose and a vengeance to settle.
Killzone 1 and 2 were by far my favorite shooters from childhood. The speeches from Visari were amazing and the gunplay felt great. Killzone 3 was also fun and I did enjoy it, but it never felt as good as killzone 2. I recently tried Halo and the bullet sponge of that game made it a struggle for me to play through. Weapons didn't feel impactful at all. Killzone 4 I never played, but looking at the videos I don't regret not paying it. It was this silly one-man army kind of idea. Where the whole game and world revolved around you. Killzone 3 already had this a little bit, as you do end up really saving the world. But even there you didn't do it all by yourself. The other soldiers in the game, even the ones without names, also had an important part to play. I now don't even buy playstations anymore and went completely to computer. Partially I would love to play killzone 5, but I'm not sure if I would get the playstation just for that. I have also moved to the more semi-realistic games. Games like call of duty or battlefield don't do much for me anymore.
In defense of halo, it is supposed to have a high ttk to incentivize strategy and sandbox mastery over simple reflexes If you use the right weapons, or face a fight in the correct way, you can make short work of almost anything the game throws at you even at max difficulty
As someone who isn't super critical, I can say I preferred 2 and 3 the best. Shadowfall was not a bad game, but it certainly did not hold the same water. The graphics imo were the best part of it. It had some fun gimmicks with your gear and tech and overall isnt bad for a shooter. But if you enjoyed 2 and/or 3 (I loved both), then SF probably would disappoint you, at least a little. You're likely better off watchinf a playthrough if you still want to get the story. As for the online though, I got no complaints at all. Not as good as 2 and 3 imo but really nothing to complain about either. It was fun from day 1. They condensed the classes down to 3, and combined ideas from Kz2 & 3 for secondary abilities/tech. All of which I found were nicely balanced. They could be OP if used correctly, or near useless if done willy-nilly. If you stuck with your squad, and everyone was strategic with abilities, you would be unstoppable. (Shields, spawn beacons, etc.) I also enjoyed how launchers and other large weapons had to actually be aimed. Rifles and such could still be hip fired, but you wouldnt have people blasting the ground next to you all the time for easy kills. There was a couple maps i didn't care for, but that's the case with nearly every shooter for me. Now there was some controversy when the fourth class, The Insurgent, was added via DLC. At first it seemed like it was going in a pay to win direction. But then this seemingly OP class was given only a pistol to start with. This class could procure weapons off dead enemies, and keep them for the match. They could "steal" their abilities too, though those would reset after a death. The other classes were also given upgrades with their tech to balance it out a bit more. It felt pay to win when you were against them and they were new, but as soon as you got your hands on the class yourself, it became apparent it was still skill based. Definitely a strange and unique scenario in online gaming. Overall, not as well received but still enjoyable in its own right. The biggest problem is the story just wasn't up to snuff, and thats why most fans kinda fell off I believe.
Killzone has the best artstyle of any game. I love the Helghasts, they are soo badass looking
To be honest, I think you missed something about the story of KZ2. In line with what Dave Kaye said below, KZ2's plot has another interesting aspect to it. The narrative about Radec that Dave has extracted from the game is also somewhat applicable to Visari himself. Like Kurtz in Heart of Darkness (or derivatively Col. Kurtz from Apocalypse Now), Visari's last words "The madness... The madness begins!" ("The horror! The horror!" in HoD/ApoNow) seem to suggest that he also went through a lot to bring Helghast society to where it was then, and how much he had to exert control in order to stop infighting (hence "The madness begins!", which we see happening in KZ3, albeit portrayed poorly there). Moreover, the general narrative structure of the story is a bit similar to the boatman's journey or Willard's journey, where the closer they get to the target of their destination (the man who turned savage - Kurtz/Visari), the more insanity/savagery they encounter themselves (Visari nuking his own city, Helghast holding out until the last man, Radec committing suicide, squadmates dying, etc.). I don't know why THAT similarity flew over everyone's head. Does anybody know if GG said aything about being inspired by HoD or ApoNow for the story of KZ2?
huh, interesting, never thought about the similarities between Heart of Darkness and Killzone 2..
Visari even resembles Marlon Brando as Kurtz….so Killzone might’ve been trying to do Spec Ops before Spec Ops?
who the hell is dave
Killzone and BLACK - one of the most memorable games on PS2 for me.
Black was way better than Killzone. The latter was kinda boring and bland.
@@matheusmelo6022 black was actually really well made and optimized for ps2 very good not a lot first person shooters on ps2 actually run good and have good frame rate black has good frame rate
@@matheusmelo6022 killzone was way better than black imo it had better gameplay a cool multiplayer
To this day I never beat the final battle in BLACK. Shit was crazy difficult to me.
@@st4ne4rmthevill63 I remember playing Black when I was like 10 yo and failing at the 2nd level, the forest, when I grew up and replayed the game it was like a ritual moment finishing the Game. Man, I still remember the bridge level.
40:12 that was a well needed break in the flow for a nice chuckle. I really enjoy this video.
I love this saga, I've played all of them without counting shadow fall.