2017/05/17: Senate hearing on Bill C16
Update: on May 18, C16 sailed through the Canadian Senate with no amendments.
I served as a witness at the Canadian Senate yesterday, regarding Bill C16, which adds the ill-defined categories of gender expression and gender identity to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. The Federal government, in a website which has since been taken down, stated clearly that this legislation would be interpreted in keeping with the policies of the Ontario Human Rights Commission, which I regard as one of the most dangerous institutions in Canada, in relationship to all rights other than those of "equality," including freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of association. I was partnered with lawyer Jared Brown, whose courageous and detailed analysis of Bill C16 can be found here: litigationguy.wordpress.com/2...
which amends the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code
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Is anyone else so hooked on Jordan Peterson that they literally watched an hour of another countries mundane government meetings?
I had the exact same thought.
Noight Bru Feeling the same way.... that name, South African?
Noight Bru Probably because this could have repercussions that go beyond the borders of Canada. It's not just (some in) Canada fighting this neo-Marxist soft coup of western civilization, it's ALL of western civilization. The passing of this dangerous law will embolden them to try it elsewhere, including the US. At least, that's why I tuned in. I'm afraid that Peterson will be deliberately targeted by this law. He has stated he won't capitulate. They are going to ensnare him to try and defeat him. I think he should leave Canada as soon as he can. He's not safe there in any capacity. But he's a fighter, so I'm sure he won't. Regardless, I will support him.
This garbage will be comming to a place near you too, soon.
Yep. He has a lot of faithful followers.
It's obvious Peterson has put 100x more thought into these proposals than any of the people elected to do so.
Intellectual mediocrity seems innate in the Senate; Contextual Tyranny is abroad in Canada. Passing the bill will create new employment opportunities for many professional "expert" groups.
The Senate isn't elected in Canada. I think the Queen or the viceroy or the PM appoints them. Can't recall who appoints them exactly, but I know they aren't elected.
Bad Habits You're right, the PM appoints senators.
Bad Habits The Prime Minister does. I don't remember there being any requirements either. Certainly being able to think clearly is not among them. Also the are appointed for life, like a Supreme Court Justice in the US.
aneTix is Well he's been dealing and familiarizing himself with the issue and the arguments for months. Who knows how long the senators have been doing the same for. A week? A few days? Regardless, there doesn't seem to be any strong arguments that would support the bill.
And here we are, 5 years later, exactly where he predicted we would be.
Which is?
@@Omnipoops hey that's what I was going to say lol
@@kratos8156 kids transitioning was happening before this even happened
@@itskeagan3004 "government control" exists in every country to a degree "The agenda", which one? And slipery slope in what way exactly?
@@itskeagan3004 is your argument just vague, meaningless phrases & talking points that mean nothing without any context? Also not sure what anything you said has to do with C-16 at all. Seems like you're like most in this comment section just filled with talking points and incapable of engaging with the subject at hand.
Am I the only woman watching over an hour of not my own country’s senate meeting because Dr. Peterson is speaking in it? 😅 GO KING 👑 PETERSON! We are with you!! 👏🏻
No you're not the only one. I think Dr. Peterson should have his own show or even network that examines this and other ideologies that use misinformation to gain support. His ability to logically explain the flaws with these policies/movements is something we can all benefit from hearing in order to gain an informed opinion.
Well probably not but this dude is a genius he knows what he is saying
I watch him all the time and i'm not living there as well, he's brilliant.
No, I’m with you, enthralled with every word which leaves his mouth and I’ve always been interested in the law.
Well this is something serious that's why I stuck by
It's Dr. Peterson actually, not Mr.... If we are going to be so concerned with addressing people appropriately.
The difference is that Dr. Peterson earned a PhD, and is thus referred as "Dr.". Not For the sake of wanting to be called "Dr."
Ashley Marie You're right. Earned titles have no place in our social justice society.
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Good call Ashley!
AutoSanchesMusic, and even though he earned it... he still has no legal right to demand that others refer to him as Dr. or face a Human Rights Tribunal and be convicted of a hate crime.
This scene will, one day, be recreated in a documentary film.
lol true. How foolish do these people look? Their faces and stupid opinions are now immortalized.
Starring Daniel Day Lewis
Phillip Bluntsworth fuk yeh!!
You mean a narrative film? A documentary would just use this footage...
This footage would suffice
JP is so so articulate I’m in awe. This is someone we all should look up to. Not some stupid celebrities in Hollywood
This but people would think spending their time losing curiosity over pointless debating is gonna help them rather then debating about logic vs emotional debates. We are trying to help. People not hurt their bodies you don’t have to entirely change your body with a procedure which can have horrible consequences but if they want to so be it. Less people reproducing so it’s not all that bad. TL:DR I don’t mind people being gay or lesbian but to go so far to change your body is ridiculous.
He's a dumb, pathetic right wing grifter which is the only reason why you hogs love him. You don't care that he lies endlessly about EVERYTHING, you love him because he tells you the lies you desperately want to believe in.
I would not say he is articulate generally. I am fairly well educated and in most of his appearance I cannot follow his logic. I would basically call him a sophist.
@@evanmoorman3828 people who are well educated often don’t say they are well educated. But I believe you. I am very much not as well educated as I would like to be, I believe he is extremely articulate. I understand his point of view. He has strong base for everything he said, and it seems like over 6 millions of his followers agree.
@@moonshineyogi933 I suppose I brought it up here to say that, frankly, with higher levels of education, Peterson makes less and less sense. He uses lots of big words and uses logic that I feel is designed to impress and make you not question his arguments.
I like how Pratte doesn't seem to understand the difference between using someones name to be polite and the LAW forcing you to use someones name.
That other bleeding heart is the worst. Voters are catching on to these useless politicians. Boo hoo. 👎 Someone was mean to me.
@@redtobertshateshandles ironic considering your grifter cult daddy Peterson can't stop crying because people were mean to him online lol
It is disgusting that one man has more intellect than the combined intellect of several elected officials who run the country, and yet they ignore him and do what they want anyway.
From reading other comments, these people aren't elected, but rather appointed. What a shit system to be living under.
xKillerClownx yet they like to call us Americans the fascists
Yup, the Senate is appointed by the Governor General at the advisement of the Prime Minister. The Governor General is also not an elected official, they are appointed by the Queen of England at the advisement of the Prime Minister. So basically the PM can select people that their party wants to keep in their pocket to help ensure laws they want are created. We do have elections and we do vote for ministers to represent the various parts of the country, yet it is ridiculous that these people who are elected and supposed to represent us are not the ones who make the laws.
they don't care. They want to pass the bill, these hearings are for show. Let's pretend we make the laws by listening to experts and adjusting accordingly. Makes the Canadians easier to fool.
And yet, people still believe if they try to reason with politicians they will actually get something from it.
"Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber."--Plato
How so relevant and this time and place!
Which pretty much forces people with the instinct to stay away from politics and power to engage in the game even though they don't like it, because if they don't then those far less competent and careful will.
B Love please correct me if I’m wrong but does that mean someone who is smart enough to be in politics and doesn’t do it are punished by those who lack intelligence by being governed
@@MichaelDiaz-eh7gj yes
@@MichaelDiaz-eh7gj That's exactly what it means.
I can only imagine how much stress has Jordan underwent. Not only had he be very specific, concise and resourceful, he also had to evaluate their questions on the fly and come up with well structured and documented responses.
And all the questions were pre-established and tought out as an attack on his stance without even being in dept atfterwards of a response, or an admission, or conclusion of some sort. It was so one sided that the bill even passed. I truly find what JP has done as a truly heroic act. You can see his hand shaking at the beginning and even so, no ordinary person would have taken such an endevor against an entire commite only on the basis of trying to speak his own truth
@@JR-om9oo 1:06 (JP shakey hands) wow you're right. He's strongly self soothing
look closely how his hands shake. he was absolutely mortified by the situation, yet it didnt show one bit in his composure and sharpness of his argument. SUCH an impressive thing to do I am absolutely blown away! It's like being thrown into a shark pit and coming out as a victor with merely a scratch!
Looking back on this, you see just how consistent JBP is. This video is like a greatest hits for him. So much psychology and ideology is unpacked.
So much of peterson's stupidity and ideological blindness was definitely unpacked here, yes. Funny how we now have had YEARS after this law was passed and not a single one of peterson's claims about it came to pass. And yet his fanboys are still lying about it to defend him. Insanity.
@@hannibalb8276 I think his argument is that there are no real benefits to having such a law, and that it would have an opposite effect to its intention. We can examine his claim right now. Are there less suicides occurring in the trans community with the law? Do they feel less discriminated against? Probably not. Are there more people who resent the trans community following the law? Probably. So, I think he was right despite you not liking him.
@@hannibalb8276the fact you had Jordan Peterson and stupidity in the same comment speaks volumes about you as a person. This man will literally transcend time, his legacy will live on for centuries. You probably look at him and see a "bigot" when in reality he's a canadian hero. He's saved peoples lives with his teachings and books. He was the poster boy for freedom of speech and standing up for what's right and that should not be frowned upon.
@@BoudSean19 Holy shit you are an extremely stupid person. Why are peterson's cultists even more obnoxious and low IQ than he is? You chuds hate freedom of speech, just like peterson does, and you'll lie endlessly to get your way, typical far right cowardly behavior.
@@king.k284 You can examine his claims now that we have hindsight for them, and REALITY SHOWS that he was objectively wrong. It's hilarious how despite the very plain evidence that he was wrong, his cult still refuses to accept it. There are not more people that hate trans people because of this, there are more people that hate trans people BECAUSE of peterson's hateful rhetoric, kind of embarrassing that you still refuse to acknowledge this basic reality. That's how you know you're in a cult.
"I'm a free speech guy." -Canadian Senator, immediately before saying that not hurting people's feelings is more important than free speech.
As soon as this fucktard said that, I instantly completed the sentence in my head: ''I'm a free-speech guy...BUT...'' The usual tactic that anti-free speech people disingenuously use to cloak their argument in a false air of rationality. (Basically the freedom of expression equivalent of ''I'm not racist...BUT...'')
Indeed... what a tosser.
how is that 6-8 seconds not made into a looping gif already with the subtitles "you hurt me, you really hurt me"? He boils the argument down to "My feelers are hurt. You must be held accountable."
Dank.
he's a free speech guy like Bill Cosby is a consensual sex guy.
I think Jordan Peterson use of language is so precise that it exposes the opposition's lack of language comprehension skills.
no doubt at all. more than that he is wiser than the entire senate and if you listen to them closely ...they know it
"Let's get precise!"
Yeah. Reveals weak intellectualism and strong political motives. Confusing identity issues and enforcing acceptance by Big Brother. In the bargain it implies thought disenfranchisement of another population trying to avoid identity as the fundamental argument.
His use of language is something to marvel at.
"Could you please repeat your answer for so and so..." =D None of them understood 50% of what he said, and I'd bet my life on that.
We need to protect this man at all costs
lol conservatives are embarrassing
@@hannibalb8276ot when seemingly every powerful company/college is trying to ruin your social status and take your psychiatric license because he has different views.
@@hannibalb8276 watch the "detransition" video its great peterson has no answer at the end watch it all tho (for what its worth, when you realize it youll be pissed no doubt) theyre all tricksters arent they? Lmfao get confused.
@Slow and sideways Hilarious tantrums from the peterson simps as usual, this is why no one likes you failures in the real world
@@OmerDrifts Cry harder chud. Yes kiddo, we're all going to watch one of your cult daddies shitty little videos because like you, the rest of us can't think for ourselves. Oh wait, that's just how you losers operate, not people worth a damn. When your low IQ grifter cult daddy loses his license you can stay mad about it, and the rest of the world will continue to laugh in your obese, whiny face about it, incel. Deal with it. :)
I've been watching this video since yesterday and every time the love for Dr. Jordan has been increasing tremendously. God bless you.
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will incarcerate me"
Oh my god, this is absolute gold!!
Britannical Genius
yeah Britannical you nailed that one..
😂😂😂😂
+1 That is such a good sum of this entire problem. I would soooooooo had loved this comment as final statement: "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words will incarcerate me."
Senator : "I'm a free speech guy" Free Speech : "You aren't my guy pal"
Thursday General You aren't my pal, bro
Thursday General you aren't my buddy, guy
As he slowly drifts of into the distance on his ice floe he screams at the top of his lungs" you are not my guy, friend !!"
Senator : "I'm a free speech guy... but shouldn't we use violence to restrict free speech? "
Ze aren't my pal, friend.
Wow! ... Just... Wow! I can't believe I just watched an hour of some Senate committee. Even more unbelievable: I was utterly enthralled! Closing comments by Dr. Peterson were like a bolt of lightening.
What a hearing! JP is an astounding individual - one of the most intellectually potent, not to mention consistent men currently circulating in media. What a champion!
"They fucked with the wrong dude." -Joe Rogan
1984 was supposed to be a warning , not a model.
INGSOC is real. It is terrifying.
there's always gonna be dumbasses getting the concept wrong
+Ryan Hollenbeck INGSOC is real. It is terrific. That's what you meant.
I once heard that the prince by Machiavelli was written ironically.
Canned Tuna Given the personal history of the man who wrote it, I think it's safe to assume that it is, in fact, a warning. Thinking of the time he went to fight fascism in the spanish civil war, which was before writing 1984 and Animal Farm.
I remember when all the Twitter checkmarks were "debunking" how Peterson was wrong because you "can't go to jail over this bill". Seeing a proper, coherent response from the doctor and Mr. Brown was important and amazing.
Twitter has nothing to do with jail or normal life you dumbass
Dud you wrote this 5 years after the hearing. Jp was wrong cause nobody has gotten arrested 🤣🤣 no braincell comment
@@ulrikr83 the bill was passed????
@@ulrikr83 Whether anyone *has been* is irrelevant to whether anyone *could have been.*
@@alansmithee419Alright then. Tell me what you have to do to get arrest under c16? Obviously its not what Peterson has claimed for the last 6 years since he has done everything he claimed would get criminalized after the bills passing
Good for you Jordan and thank you for having a voice of common sense.
All this will do is isolate these people even more, because nobody will want to risk dealing with them.
Canadian Girl i know i wouldnt. Cant imagine hiring one of them, seems like too much risk.
I've found myself employing a similar strategy with SJWs. If I have to walk on eggshells around people, then it's safer just to not hangout with them.
This will effect Canada's economy greatly. Because major corporations and other big businesses will pull out of Canada, rather then risk paying millions of dollars in settlements. Because this law puts the court in the victims favor, even if they're not a victim. If you have a small business that employs 100 to 1000 people, or a big business that employs 10,000 to 100,000 people. All it takes is one of those people to slip up and say something they thought was a joke, that someone will say they were offended by, in order to make a quick lawsuit case to be awarded a settlement. When that starts happening, and people now use this law as a way to sue businesses in order to get rich quick. That's it, Canada's currency is done. No business is going to stay there, at least no international business is going to stay there. They'll move abroad, rather then pay settlements constantly. People will say, well, we just wont hire them, problem is, that is discrimination, so you have to take'em. This law will do more harm then good, especially on Canada's economy. I guess the saying is true *The road to hell is paved with good intentions.*
If you don't kiss these ppls asses they can blackmail you now.
"Make it a punishable offense not to look people in the eye and smile warmly." It's scary because that doesn't even sound too far-fetched these days...
It's ironic that this whole thing keeps centering around calling someone by a certain pronoun "out of respect" and yet they keep referring to him as "Mr." Peterson and not "Dr." Peterson.
RESPECT...........is EARNED! And Dr Peterson has more then earned mine! he emits torrents of genius and the meek flounder in his wake! un able to cope with the scope in which this man thinks. We all see a piece of paper this man see's the tree and the process of harvesting said tree, The paper mill in witch it is made to finally become the very small part of the broader scope the piece of paper.
Doctor isn't a gender. Peterson doesn't have doctor dysphoria.
@@Raiko01 C16 has nothing to do with pronouns, misgendering someone isn't illegal under C16, discriminating against someone because of their gender identity or expression is. The act already existed, this was just an amendment adding gender identity and expression to the Canadian Human Rights Act - "For all purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, marital status, family status, disability and conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered." - www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/c-16/first-reading.
JP Don’t even try, these people just listen to their dear leader JP “because he sticks it to the SJWs.”
@@Ninjacobe Thanks for posting - I read the amendment. What is it gender expression? Something new is added to the law without definition - age, sex, ethinc group, religion - all that is clear. And bias could be obviously based on misgendering if a court chooses such interpretation. To me it is obvious that the lacking definition will mean that the court will have to refer to some institutions or bodies and it will be those that are spreading this postmodernist ideology which is not based on scientific grounds (as well expressed by Peterson). The amendment is suspicious not by what it says but by what is missing. I think that those who carefully listened to this hearing could see that an ideology is pushed through the back door so that everybody will have to conform to it.
Dr. Peterson is a wonderful teacher, I love listening to him!
One of the greatest Canadian heros of all time. A living legend. I can’t imagine how many people’s lives were saved and improved as a consequence of his actions. Single handedly he’s probably motivated millions of people not just Canadians, most likely saved thousands of people from mental and physical suffering. Tipping the world towards goodness than darkness
They’re equating hurt feelings with assault... and that really hurts my feelings
@@raphpaillot he/she/xe/xer/xhe/xher/wjwf/wfe/rh/jry/jyt/kt/tuk/tuktuk/ can visit my practice for legal representation, in case he/she/xe/xer/xhe/xher/wjwf/wfe/rh/jry/jyt/kt/tuk/tuktuk/ decides to litigate.
The worst part is by not using those fake ass pro nouns or playing along, your being TRUTHFUL to those people instead of feeding them lies about their gender. all those people who are "trying to protecct" the transgenders by feeding them lies are doing more harm then good. In the 70's the APA removed homosexuality as a mental illness in order to appease rather than to treat. I guess people are now looked at as bigots for telling their neighbor the truth.
@@raphpaillot lmfao
What if my feelings are hurt because yours are? Do I blame you or the person who hurt yours?
sam forkkio I suppose they just pulled it out of their ass? Or, maybe you are just fundamentally wrong? I do wonder which is more likely.
this was an intellectual massacre
mastercilander, truer words were never spoken.
mastercilander It's primarily the threat of force not actually violence, not much of a difference in principal perhaps but still significant enough... You don't see the sword of Damocles until you look up...
If they could manifest an intellectual argument, they would be agreeing with DR Peterson lol...agreed that violence is the route of the coward who can't communicate their point
It's Canada...
"This isn't a debate, this is your grave."
Peterson is great but we should always remember the another here next to him Mr Brown. Thank you that you took responsibility for our world and you carry that on your shoulders
"The fact that I've been called things doesn't mean that that's what I am." I'm gonna have to start saying that out loud to myself more.
When people think I’m Japanese instead of Korean. I may feel hurt but that does not give me the right to sue the other person committing an act of violence!
코니치와, 우씨
@@WilhelmFreidrich Exactly!
Yes, but if someone calls you a pedophile, you can sue for defamation.
I get you. Being Danish comes with its own problems in the "global community", lol. A shocking number of Americans I've talked to throughout my life (I swear, it was almost always an American) haven't even known that Denmark was a country. They've thought it was a town in either Sweden, Norway, Netherlands or even England. At least North and South Korea are known and recognized as countries xP. Fortunately this hasn't really happened since Bernie Sanders used Denmark as an example of socialism being a good thing, making it more commonly known that we're a country (we're not a socialist country, btw. If we were, the money to pay for all the "free" aka tax-paid programs and services couldn't exist, cause we wouldn't have the incomes needed to pay said high taxes). Also, they think we speak Dutch... Dutch people speak Dutch. Danish people speak Danish. You'd think this would be simple, but nooooo. OR they say that Denmark is just wannabe-Sweden, which is bizarre considering Sweden along with the rest of Scandinavia all used to be the kingdom of Denmark. We're hardly a newborn baby country over here :( Well, maybe the baby part, cause we're teeny tiny if Greenland isn't included... I'm only still writing cause it's almost midnight and I'm really bored. ♫ Metti un po' di musica leggera, perchè ho voglia di nienteeee. Anzi leggerissimaaaaaa! ♪
That's true , so many people ask me if I am a Muslim the minutes I say I am from originally from Syria , I tell them not really , and most of the time I give them a listen in history ,LOL
"I'm a free speech guy but you should go to jail if your words hurt my feelings." Lol
when is that quote?
dryinalaska start at around 30:10ish. It's a bit of a long slog though.
Canada and Turkey are countries I probably won't visit in the foreseeable future much because of both countries infringement of free speech.
Loveburningheart C-16 says you can't go to jail unless it's involved with assault, rape, etc...
Loveburningheart "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire
I've never looked up to anyone and admired a fraction of what I look up to and admire this amazing man
Looking back on this now I appreciate Peterson a lot. He stood up against perceived injustice, an individual speaking truth to power doing battle with society with courage. The world has become so twisted in the last few years, and Peterson was right about virtually everything he was warning about.
Jordan Peterson killed it! Every question was answered precisely and every attempt at defamation was thwarted. Well done, hero.
The bill may be passed but it can always be reversed. I've been inspired to direct my life towards these issues with the approach of JP, I value and pursue the truth. An intellectual movement is following behind him, I see it on campus at U of T and surrounding universities in toronto.
Yes they threw everything at him. The attempted association to genocide was hilarious.
This was like Socrates epic level debating
Soby Do you know how hard it is to undo something once it is law? Enough that it doesn't happen very often.
Free Press of Kekistan do you support this guy as a member of the kek nation?
I literally just got done cleaning my room and this popped up. God is good
Clorox Bleach still havnt started😣
I did it yesterday, but it needs to be cleaner!
+fayzaan is your soul is imaginary?
woe betide all deniers of clorox. repent and be cleansed by his sterilising power!
Clorox Bleach I see you comment on almost every video I watch lol
He looked so much younger back then. What he had to went through in the last couple of years surley wasn't easy for him. Not only being persecuted, but also the health struggles in his family and the crazy amount of responsibility he had to take about not saying anything wrong, because so many people started to built a cult around him and treat as a some kind of savior.
Incredible! Your articulation and logical consistency is superb! Keep up the great work - you're extremely courageous to take that stand in front of the senate!
3:59 - Almost calls it bullshit, remembers he is in the senate.
Travis Wilson haha now I saw it!
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
LMAO
Great save, i didn't catch it the first time.
Actually cussing would be the most appropriate place to say it,since there's no honour in the senate.
I now see why Jordan took such a hardline stance against the bill with these lunatics behind the wheel...
For real. It is so easy to imagine that 'X should be illegal' or that 'program Y should be put in place'. Zero thought given to the political manipulations of the laws/program, the rulings/cases that will change its meaning, the opinions/motives/laziness/zeal of bureaucrats that will take point on its effect, the stupid arrogant SOBs that will draft the rule/law, the question of what would your political enemies do if they took the helm of the government in 20 years with the law/program as precedence for their programs/laws, the violence that will be used to enforce it, the fact that government programs are never termed to coincide with their presumed objective or ever stay within their initial scope of jurisdiction, etc. We are like sorcerers apprentice. Government is an entity you give the bare minimum amount of authority necessary to keep us from bludgeoning each other to death.
I can't wait until the Muslim majority in 50 years uses these laws to force all the gays and transexuals to swear allegiance to Allah.... or else be thrown in prison, or worse. The Liberals are unfortunately drafting the very laws that will be used to destroy liberalism.
Government is an entity you give the bare minimum amount of authority necessary to keep us from bludgeoning each other to death. -- people really need to understand this
@@meerkat1954 if only, in shariah law it is just death if you are homosexual, there's no in-between
Thank you for your efforts Dr. Peterson.
As a Englishman what I find so sad is that tens of thousands of brave Canadians came over to Europe to help Britain fight the vast Nazi cloud that fell over Europe . They fought and died to destroy an evil that dictated what people must think and say. 72 years later watching a Canadian government trying to do the same.
and ours in all...
So Canadian authoritarianism = compulsory niceness. That's the creepiest candyland dystopia I can imagine.
Ah... but in the end, would that not be the most effective kind? The authoritarianism that lulls so many into a false sense of security and justice via compelled "polite" or "nice" speech?
it wont be so nice when people are taken off to prison.
Lan Des It's about money, just like feminism, for lawyers, social workers, so-called educators, gender studies Phds, womens studies Phds, and other unemployable morons.
@Robgoren Agreed. Erin Pizzy pointed it out ages ago, but for some reason the economical aspect of all of this isn't pointed out enough. Taken categorically, any ideology is ultimately just a tool used to better move money around.
Basically the Ned Flander's timeline in that Treehouse of Horror segment.
Hearing the questions of some of these senators gives one a sense of the scary scope of ignorance and irrationality pushing C16 forward.
I do not believe ignorance is at play here. In my perspective there appears to be specific intent to diminish Dt. Peterson, without logical or factual means to do so.
*Dr
Plus a health dose of bribery and blackmail. Politicians these days are all on the take or kiddie fuckers.
it rather seem to me that theyre trying to diminish his validity ... so that ppl like him who are smart enough to understand whats going on do not stand up against things which they jsut quickly want to pass into the law
At least they are having a tribunal and inviting qualified people to give their views. Being a politician doesn't have any requirements to be qualified at the job, just a requirement to be popular enough to get elected. A smart politician will realise that they most likely don't know as much about a particular topic than experts in the field and will seek out their advice. A stupid politician will make quick knee-jerk decisions based on nothing but their own, most likely ignorant, views.
I wish I could attend one of Jordan’s lectures , such an intelligent guy !
When I forget how clever and articulate a person can be, I seek out this video. Bravo, Dr. Peterson!
Jordan was shaking at first (I assume he's not accustomed to Senate hearings, I'd shake too) but as soon as he realized there was nothing to fear and that they didn't have any extraordinary evidence or points he hadn't heard before he absolutely took over. Holy crap what a champion.
Milo that's a perfect example of going into the dragons lair- he approached what he feared head on and did his best, practicing what he preaches
Just to add: He's most likely not shaking from fear or worry, but adrenaline. The same thing happens to most people when they're in a situation or conversation that's extremely personal and passionate to them. It happens to me whenever I discuss certain forms of suffering and pain that relate heavily to personal experiences.
Essentially, you just outlined how people psychologically and cognitively mature through confrontation, fear, and struggle. If you take control of year fears and meet them head on, you often realize that your fear was irrational. It's when you don't meet them and allow them to govern your life is when they begin to irrationally control YOU.
Milo he destroyed them with facts and logic. He is our champion
Watch his interviews with Dave Rubin and Joe Rogan, he shakes a bit there as well. I think it is some general nervousness because of the scale on which he is speaking, and/or possibly adrenaline. He goes for the water a lot as well in those interviews and here. No matter what, he still get his points across eloquently, and I like that he fired back a bit here too, more so than Gad Saad chose to do. Some of the questions in both hearings were reprehensible and disingenuous, like saying they aren't against genocide and discrimination because they don't want compelled speech at threat of prosecution. Apparently they aren't familiar with fallacious arguments. Canadian residents should try to introduce a bill reducing senate pay to $0 and just include anti-genocide and anti-discrimination measures in them, apparently that is all that is required to be passed with no nuanced look.
I just realized that there is a translator who has to translate Peterson's speech to french in real time like omg I'm so sorry for you.
I would have loooved to listen to that version in French 😅
He's just glad Ben Shapiro isn't there
@Expat214 I agree, though Ben Shapiro generally talks faster, making it equally hard for him to be translated real time
@Expat214 I’m pretty sure it’s just because he talks fast
What if they called a French Jordan Peterson to do the work and then, him Shapiro and Jordan had coffee afterwards 😂😂
This is the most interested I think I've ever been in a government committee hearing.
Wow Thank God for an honest academic. You go Mr . Peterson
2 intelligent men vs The Feelings Brigade.
SeinTa feelings brigade wins..... well..... god bless america
TRUDEAU's LIBTARD SOROS Brigade!!
The US is next..
Feelings Brigade Institute or FBI for short.
Hecarroman- This won’t happen in the U.S. because we have the First Amendment right to Free Speech. Our government officals are elected not appointed by the PM. Colleges and other institutions have tried to, but they’ve been successfully sued by students and others. Also, our president just signed an Executive Order that will help enforce free-speech rights.
I can't believe that we're living in a time where this is even a thing.
And it will only get worse...
@@retroeshop1681 True.
@@retroeshop1681 And here we are, 2020.......
@@danmunn7667 Indeed we are...
He’s mastered the English language, it’s truly a privilege to listen to him speak
👏👏👏 great job Dr Peterson! It took me a while but i finally understood what is so problematic about this bill.
The one and ONLY time a video from the Canadian Senate will get 100K views
Guzzbar GetEm Can't believe I'm watching a Canadian Senate hearing at 4 in the morning
wordddd
*300,000 views
Gad Saad and Theryn Meyer's appearance should get up that high too.
Guzzbar GetEm Spot on! How did we get to this point? We're fucked!
Peterson is a fucking legend. There is a force and spirit moving through this man that is exactly what the world needs.
Therion 777 That force is Kek. Praise Kek
rhymeswithteeth reeeeeeeee
yeah hes a titan.
You said it perfectly - thank you Therion 777.
It don't matter. Stupidity still prevailed.
Can't believe I watched all this in 2022- actually I can. Prof Jordan Peterson's work endures time
Thank you so much for speaking truth, even in the face of tyranny. It speaks volumes to your character that you came more prepared than the fabricators of this "legislation"
His last argument about conversion therapy shot their ideology to pieces
Nathan Robinson literally the smoking gun against post-modernism and speaks to the potential fascism that it imposes
can you explain the argument to me please? I couldn't quite follow his thought entirely as English is not my native language. Sorry.
Bryan Everest In the US gays could follow a therapy that could turn them straight. It didn't work... at all. In so we establish that a therapy can not change a fundamental part of an indentity. But what postmodernist claim is that your personality is subjective and dependant of your context. These two theses can not coexiste. Because if the contexte is you should not be gay, well according to postmodernist you would not be gay anymore. I might have made a terrible strawman but f it.
The encouragement of transgenderism is basically eugenics + conversion therapy rolled into one. Gonna be a lot of lawsuits in the future.
That was the most impressive finishing move I've ever seen.
I'm glad there is an official record of people opposing this madness for posterity.
First, they came for the www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007392
Maybe one day people will look at this footage for historical purposes. Maybe they'll call it 'a rare case of pre-war resistance'
Unless it disappears from their website in the middle of the night...
This is what it's like to watch a genius in a room of exceptional and not so exceptional individuals.
You can tell he is extremely nervous at the beginning and he still crushes it
Dr. Peterson is now reaching the final levels of the dragon's lair.
Damn i love how his metaphores are being memefied: Praise kek
Shaliday my brothers. Slay the dragon and become a god.
We all need to work hard to pull our fathers out from the bottom of the lake.
I'm in complete awe. He and his lawyer ally defeated a room full of elder dragons
I'm proudly wearing my Pepe shirt right now! Remember that it's our duty to carry this energy into our political systems as well.
The second speaker, the lawyer, isnt getting enough love in the comments. It was a very systematic breakdown of the bill and how it practically takes effect in law. Really well done
A great speaker can be easily forgotten when an even better one is there. That said I agree and thought he was almost as good as Peterson.
Damn right!
Agreed
Yep! Dont know him, but he made a great impression
For real, he deserves an applause for that! 👏
@4:00 when JBP *almost* says, “…which is bullshit!” Always puts a smile on my face 😂
😂😂😂😂😂i swear he was about to say it
I am so hooked on Mr. Peterson. I just love to hear him speak. My husband introduced me to hi.
Dr. Peterson is a linguistic Beast!
for real. makes me want to go back to english class so I can get ideas out even better
And you aren't! "Beast"? Rather lazy communication. Not that I claim to be much better.
your mom is also a linguistic beast lmao
He seriously makes me feel stupid
scooby - actually, be her own admission, my mom was a 'cunning' linguistic beast! BOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!
Two part Summary: 1. Jordan Peterson in the belly of the whale trying to save his father from the underworld. 2. Group of senators who need to sort themselves out and clean their rooms before they try to save Canada from imaginary issues.
Ryan L I f*ing love this community. (And your comment haha)
true
Yeah, I think I started actually reading comments on youtube solely because I got a blast out of seeing the ones under JBP's vids
Awesome comment!
the unsorted should fear the sorted.
amazing, I am continuously astounded by mr petersons intellect!
if you see the start of the video, you will see just how much his hand is shivering. This shows just to what lengths he is willing to go to speak what he considers right. what a brave man! keep it up Peterson!!!
I just realized how HARD it must be for the translator to rapidly convert Jordan's complex english phrases into french accurately. rip* translator
Lots of le's and la's needlessly added!!
+perceivingacting The French are gender-assuming extremists! lol
LOL The irony just makes your head spin. When both "good" and "evil" (le bon et le mal) are _masculine_... oh wait, "night" is feminine, while "day" is masculine... It's all _so_ awful! And _sexist_... and _transphobic_!
Le brassiere!!!
look at the dude behind him take of his earpiece
If Canada doesn't want someone like Dr. Peterson anymore, we'll take him. We'll take him. -America
Keep grinding them under the boot of these Social Justice Tribunals and your best minds will flee Canada.
I'm fresh out of college as a computer engineer. I've considered moving to America with my degree in hand because of how progressive it is becoming. I'm scared that being a white male in a STEM field will have me walking on eggshells around women and "progressives" because they'll call the Social Justice Police. For now I will get my certification and try to find an entry level job in my region but if it gets to the point where I have to stiffle myself for others in the workplace, like this bill is saying, I am out. I'll gladly get a visa and slowly integrate until I can get citizenship in the US. I am extremely proud to be a Canadian historically but under the current rule and degridation of traditional values infuriates me.
he's all we have bro
Noooo we need him, and more like him!
Canada and the US have a lot in common.
A real privilege to listen to Dr. Jordan Peterson.
It’s been 5yrs since this video was upload and i am watching the full video of Mr. Peterson debate with their Govt. and i am enjoying his speech.
I never knew Canadian politics could be this interesting. He knocked every question out of the park. Now if you'll excuse me, my room needs a thorough cleaning
Thing is... my room needs *actual* cleaning.... -_-
Lucas Elliott you have a nice profile pic fam
And responsible government is a model of government, which Canada uses, is Canadians choosing a party and the party chooses the Prime Minister; we choose our Prime Minister through representative democracy. Judges and Senate members are no different. Democracy as you see it is tyrannical. You could argue for the separation of powers model, which would realistically separate the executive government from the House of Commons; but this is only done if we separate our ties with the Queen, whom still technically leads Canada through the Governor General. What you're essentially saying is let's abolish the senate, separate our ties from the commonwealth and become more like France (because America is a Republic, and representation still isn't direct, even if they do vote for their President). Bad idea. Democracies fail where Republics succeed.
Lucas Elliott if by knocking the questions out of the park you mean his answers went over their heads, I think you are correct.
"I'm a free speech guy, but consider the following: what if your words hurt my feelings?"
lmfao, we're fucked up here in Canada. Sadly, it's been trending this way for a long time. Our guaranteed human rights are garbage.
herrdoctoroetker don't worry give America a decade. we'll catch up.
Most the time I don't care for my own feelings. Why the hell would I care for the feelings of some sexually confused nutjob?
Yeah hey, completely contradicts himself.
Lol, unreal.
JP you are well educated and intelligent and articulate brilliantly. You have my continual respect.
Thank you @JordanBPeterson for posting this video. Very intense lesson!
it's an honor I lived in a time where Peterson is alive
Lived?
@@jacobmarshall5391 go clean your room
@@Adam-wt5vf His mom probably does it for him.
@@Adam-wt5vf ?
One of the greatest minds living today, it's strange to say that and may sound cliche but it's worth noting I've never said that about any other individual. The other greatest minds I can think of are deceased.
Insanity... and they’re serious. Dr. Peterson is a very patient man.
Bernard Black he is way too patient. They only cares about money and social norm then the truth.
The panel looked on in disbelief because he was arguing about something that does not exist
flabbergasted hahaha
Patient? Really? When idiots eventually agree with him?
Right, I aspire to this level of patience and control of one's own emotions and how he reacts to such.
Dr. Peterson. It is inspiring to see you stand up for Canadian freedom of speech and against the ideology that drove this legislation. In the face of what can easily be seen as “compassionate” and “reasonable” arguments by these members, your wisdom shines through. Your study of compelling speech through history seems to be missed by these “compassionate” individuals. Thank you for standing firm, Intelligent, and caring yourself.
Thank you Dr Peterson for your thoughtful courage. The USA thanks you. Now editing at the 45 minute point. Dr Peterson and your legal team, you are good! I'm praying for you and your righteous cause!
Sort your bill out, Bucko.
And slay a bloody dragon while you're at it!
AYYYYY!!! Mihir, please accept on my behalf, this "W" : )
Mihir Kumar How you do that? *God only knows*
Start by cleaning your damned room!
0:00-1:00:08 was an absolute smack down actually. How could you vote for this after hearing these two witnesses! The answer is corruption. the liberal Elite have absolute control. This is all part of the liberal elite's PROPAGANDA. This is just another small step to take away our rights and freedoms. The slope only goes one way with Socialistic governments.... Dr Peterson is a genius. Not only a genius but then he is brave enough to go against the tyrannical powers. Risking his financial security and neck for WE THE PEOPLE! We need more people like Dr Peterson in places of powers. If he was only born here in the USA he would be our next President. I urge all Canadians to vote for Dr Peterson the next election. Even though I guarantee he would not want the power or the job. I feel like if enough of you voted for him he would be compelled to stand up for you all. Do you guys have a section like we do in the US where you can right in an "other"? I have herd that Mickey Mouse got more votes than both Bill Clinton and George Bush senior that election. Whether that is true or not it serves the point that you can vote for whoever you want wether they are on the ballot or not.
Lawyer guy did good lawyering
I'm glad Peterson had legal backup with him. They used Gad Saad's lack of legal expertise to try to invalidate his arguments. NB. They didn't succeed, and Saad still made a great presentation, but having a lawyer with you prevents that bullshit line of attack.
he lawyered the shit out of it.
On a 1 to 10 scale of lawyerness, "1" being least lawyerly, and "10" being most like a lawyer, he was at least a "12."
+Steve McCann... Ha ha, well done, I think you've given the English language a new phrase. Brilliant.
Paul W Anyone know if he's on KZhead?
Very painful to listen to these politicians.
God bless you JBP. Thank you fo making this video available to anyone like me.
“There’s nothing more powerful than articulated speech”. Jordan Peterson is my hero!
he is in his forte
"The pen is mightier than the sword. People on the identity side of the argument are coopting government as a sword for their movement.
For further proof on this comment, search for George Galloway v US Senate.
The fact that the bill still passed kinda shows that there are some things more powerful than an articulated speach.
This guy.... Is it not obvious to everyone that this has to be the most intellectually honest, disciplined, and principled person in the room? Peterson clearly found a problem he couldn't understand, sought to understand it, and now is terrified by the prospect of this ridiculous legislation. It's easy to dismiss someone who uses big words like 'Marxist ideologue' as perhaps crazy or someone with an agenda, but that is clearly not the case. If you watch his other videos and read his articles, it MUST BE OBVIOUS that this man is the clearest thinker in Canada.
Fallon Merkowsky He's a hero to all Canadians! Thank you for fighting for our free speech! I'm truly thankfull!
Love him here in the US.
mick - they are afraid to speak up because their professional careers and even perhaps their lives might be on the line if they do so. There are a limited number of people who have spoke up about this, but they have been silenced by the forces around them. Apparently, there is NO LONGER free speech in Canada - only the government approved 'think-speak' as prophesied in Orwell's '1984'.
and the most intelligent.
Fallon Merkowsky vote for Peterson
Jordan Thoroughly enjoyed your fact based logic, your cogent comments, and your concise summations of the problems associated with compelled speech!
How do these people not see they're trying to legislate in its simplest form "hurting peoples feelings"???
"the idea that calling someone a term that they didnt choose causes them so much harm that legal remedy should be sort shows how deeply the culture of victimisation has sunk into our society" J.Peterson Bravo sir. thats it in a nutshell. case closed.
"..Should be sought..." . but yes 😊 ( just because the subject is language, and I´m a nitpicker)
It’s like, your getting bullied? TO COURT! Why not? I mean we can create a being bullied community and show our suffering right?
I think my sister is the one who really started its growth spurt!
imagine equating trauma to having a victim complex...
So true...
Shout out to the lawyer as well. He did a great job.
He did!
Exactly this man is another hero, we shall not forget him!!!
No doubt
underrated
JP , Doctor JP. A brilliant , articulate, profound, man. Who are the people writing subjective laws?
If Dr Perterson had felt offended by the number of times these lawmakers referred to him as Mr Peterson instead of Dr, many of them should have been first to go to jail.
EXACTLY
Funny how quick the right is to demand people that disagree with them be jailed. Also funny how you are all still regurgitating peterson's lies about the law, which passed over 5 years ago and NONE of his claims about it came to pass. Not a single person was arrested or jailed as a result of it, and yet here you are, STILL LYING about it. Disgusting.
imagine being able to identify as a doctor, and any1 who disagrees goes to jail. quite absurd
Well, good thing he doesn't care about that. And he's there arguing as a citizen, not as a doctor.
@@AugustoXRock he may be there as a citizen but he his arguing as a DR. in Sociology. For give me if i miss spell a word or two.
🇨🇦Thank you very much, Dr. Peterson!🇺🇸🙏
I have great respect for the way JBP can hold his composure and put forward an argument clearly
His lawyer was like I think I'll just let Dr Peterson explain this one. Then smirk like go get him tiger
I noticed that too. The physcologist in the room out lawered the lawers
you noticed that as well
@@wat_cher I noticed that you noticed that Gary noticed too
YUP EXACTLY THAT
@@Kjenep I noticed that you noticed that Wat Cher noticed that Gary noticed that Eric The Developer noticed that too.
Canadian Senate by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night...
J B ...all day
J B fuck ya, man.
the hero we need
hello freak bitches
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