I put CERAMIC Keycaps onto a Thocky Keyboard and this happened...
#Keybored #mechanicalkeyboard I put CERAMIC Keycaps onto a Keyboard and this happened...
So the Owlabs Spring is a thocky keyboard to start. But what happens if you take a set of Cerakey Ceramic Keycaps and put it on this? Well... it destroys the internets. Maybe tt doesn't. But you get some insane sounds out of it. Check it out!
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I'm a ceramicist who is actually into keebs, and I actually think that these keycaps are pretty awesome! It is super impressive how the creator was able to pull this off (especially with the legends).
it's pretty wild! I mean looking at them, I was surprised that the legends on a ceramic keycap actually looks nicer than some plastic ones haha
As an expert, can you share how this might be achieved? Using molds? Doesent ceramic stuff srink when baked.... ?? just curious.
@@A_GWAKwork_Orange holy crap so that means they're durable asf? and theyre selling it for a very reasonable price too and imo underpriced compared to gmk's
@@MatzyKun I think that's a testament to how over priced gmk is. Plastic is a very cheap material.
@@amizan8653 the thing you're paying for in gmk is the branding
This is very interesting seeing how the market is now introducing these new materials for keycaps. I’m so excited to see more builds with these keycaps :)
It's like cheat mode for Thock haha
@@Keybored they should make these keycaps with MA profile, that would be even thockier
Wow this sounds incredible! By far my favorite build of anyone who received preproduction sets. I'll be picking up a set for sure. Thank you for this!
These are amazing. The prospect of getting high quality good sounding keycaps with good shinethrough would be amazing as well. There's not enough shinethrough cherry sets, if any I know of
Happy to get more content from you, whether long or short, your videos are always fun to watch.
Thank you so much! Glad to be back!
@@Keybored One thing though - because your keyboard science is thrown into the middle of keyboard reviews and other topics, they can be difficult to find later. Is it possible to also release them as an a separate video or somehow make them more easily searchable? Thanks!
Dude those sound sooooo nice haha! Also it's nice to see your face in videos now! Hope all is well
Pretty cool to see something other than PBT, ABS and the occasional mega expensive metal keycaps. There's so many materials out there to explore.
those keycaps are interesting ceramic for keycaps idk how someone got inspired to even try using ceramic but very cool vid Scott!
It's actually pretty nice! I was skeptical at first, but realized that it does sound unique and very nice!
So excited for these to drop, I pre-ordered them as soon as I heard the sound test!
:) I am def going to pick up a white and blue set
@@Keybored the white with blue legends looks AMAZING - those with the cracked keycaps for some flare is *chef’s kiss*
Not only a build as perhaps the thockiest keyboard, but I think it's a build with very refined taste - the organic touch of black ceramic on a black Owlab spring!
It looks fantastic! Like a stealth fighter jet
@@Keybored The white edge of these caps give the look also a bit of the feel like kaweco al sport stonewashed finish (pen) yet they are pieces of finely colored and baked ceramics... 😎👍✨
That is a seriously awesome keyboard... and close to my absolute dream keyboard which would be an 80% with the same ergonomic layout as this one, mechanical ceramic key caps like this one, but also RGB, have both wired and wireless / rechargeable. Unfortunately such a keyboard doesn't exist... but this ticks more of the boxes than any other I've found so far.
This thing sounds very interesting. If I just entered the room and heard you typing on this thing but didn't see what was going on I would swear someone is taking a fat bong rip. That keyboard straight up gurgles.
You had me at thock. Gonna back this kickstarter! 👍 Also I love your videos man!!
Thank you so much! I appreciate the support!
Cerakey improves gasket performance
thanks so much for this. always looking for new stuff to try.
You're very welcome! Hope the video was helpful!
I enjoyed the shorter length video too, it's a nice break. I saw someone else asking about making your videos with the Science™ consolidated & searchable somehow. Perhaps, if you have the time and energy, a website with brief write-ups for each concept/video with the vid embedded could do the trick?
Amazing thock - I've never considered ceramic keycaps but I might in a future build now! thank you
Neither have I! But not I know lol
Thock monster! Haha. This video should do great! Awesome job my friend.
Haha, right? It was great timing yesterday after the badseedtech video! It’s like Scott had this queued up to ride the algorithm!
Sooo thocky!
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@@prodlatro Hello! Hope you're having a wonderful day! 🤜
@@Clackbait you too
My only concern is how sharp pieces of broken ceramic are, Im also assuming these are glazed for the color which could also mean they could get more brittle over time. Gamer rage could turn fingers to hamburger.
Hahaha gamer rage!
They did a drop test with them on the kickstarter. They seem very durable.
taeha also did a drop test. these wont shatter
Someone always has a random concern that doesn't apply to them (or 99% of the rest of us)...
I would think that your first concern is not that important considering that dropping keyboards happens almost never for most users. Fingers won't do any damage to ceramics no matter how hard you type. Ceramics are brittle, but still relatively very tough. Slamming or punching (very very hard) your keyboard could possibly shatter the keycaps, but that could easily be prevented. Just breathe, calm down, and don't punch or slam your keyboard
When I watched Hipyo's stream I couldn't stop laughing, especially with the spacebar weight.
It's soooo heavy that spacebar
between your voice, the music and the THOCK I was falling asleep and sliding out of my desk chair. 😴
"I'm definitely taking this to the office to piss off some people" 😂
I placed an order for a set of these for a very special mechanical keyboard, my Abkoncore AR87. An incredibly special keyboard, weighing in at nearly 7 pounds of machined aluminum, deserves incredibly special keycaps. So rather than using my all-stainless steel keycap set. Which were OEM Profile and didn't quite fit the style as this keyboard was really designed to be used with Cherry Profile. I went ahead with this instead! I'm extremely excited to be one of the first with an all-ceramic keycap set in exclusive Crazed Blue. In addition to the other mods I've got planned like soldering LEDs to backlight the keycaps etc. It'll be about as custom as it can get and incredibly rare, a crown jewel of a keyboard as it were, that'll be durable enough to last forever and something special I hope to pass down someday. They let me know since they got over 4,000 orders, they plan to get them all manufactured and shipped by August-October of this year!! May the Thock be with you.
I hope you're happy. I swore I was endgame on key caps then you made this...I backed the Kickstarter because of you. Unforgivable.
I guess gmk is no longer endgame, and aluminum keycaps can't touch these sexy keycaps either. Ceramic just looks luxurious.
Thock on! I still think I will prefer timber keycaps but ceramic is certainly interesting. I wonder if they will find a way to integrate typeface into the cracked "craze"(glaze) finished keycaps.
They did! The blue samples I received actually had the cracked finish and looked awesome
What and where can i find these timber keycaps? Pls share sir
I'd also be interested if you could recommend where to get timber keycaps :)
Really nice. Wonder how it would fare on the return with lighter switches, especially on stabilized/heavier keys... Aka would it be sluggish?
They are around twice the weight of normal switches 3,7grams.
What’s a good alternative to the Owllabs Spring? Doesn’t seem to be available anymore :( A Feker Alice keyboard?
Just want to know, does the ceramic keycaps come with split spacebar or did you use the keys from the numpad for the spacebar?
I would do Hall Effect key springs so you could be ultra precise as the key caps are quite heavy. So you could do racing on keyboard quite well
I can't wait for the creamic case material soon :D
What about the space bar weight and the stabilizers? Would it have some rattling?
wooaah super excited to see more materials being used for keyboard components! all fr4 keeb maybe?
Haha, that would be crazy to see!
I bet they have some serious weight compared to plastics haha, but as someone who has worked with various ceramic types and coatings before, the glaze does seem quite smooth as you'd expect. I'm not sure I'd like that personally, especially if your hand gets too dry or even remotely sweaty it'll be sliding all over the place, and conversely if your fingers stick to them then that doesn't help with ease of movement either. Definitely sounds good in this board regardless. Are the undersides uncoated and if so, does it have any texture? The legend versions look promising and I'm wondering how they achieve that and if it's clear-coated (the site says they use decals, likely under clear coat, which is neat technically speaking). I am looking forward to more types/styles since there are many kinds of ceramics :) Cheers!
I think another youtuber reviewed them and weighed each basic key to be 3g, vs 1g for a plastic key.
Hey Scott.. so Im going to build a high end keyboard.. Class 80 with Ceramic Keycaps. I was wondering what is the best switch to use.. for a great deep thock, and clacky-thock? Thank you so much… 🙏🙏🙏
Are these noticeably louder than other keycaps you've used? I'm also skeptical of the qc involved in a product like this especially for a first run backing.
Their spacebar doesn't work, as shown in Hipyo Techs stream. They say they are going to fix it with a certain amount of people investing in the campaign, but you never know...
They are definitely louder for sure. It's the weight. It hits pretty hard. It's actually very nice on a gasket or spring mounted board because it absorbs the energy quite well
@@sparkplugbarrens the spacebar he got was an early prototype and nothing like the final product. They already have the redesign posted on their Kickstarter.
woke up in the morning and first video I watched lmao, good way to start my day
Glad to hear that!
Video idea: the no plastic keyboard! make a keyboard that has zero plastic whatsoever, switches, plates, keycaps, case, everything! maybe not the pcb tho idk
haha. I think the struggle would be the PCB
@@Keybored The pcb isn't made of plastic anyway, but you could hand wire the keyboard.
Aluminium pcbs are a thing!
I wonder what these keycaps sounded like on clicky swiches like clickez and box white v2
Does the springiness (flex) of the board affect the sound?
Thockiest keyboard is actually anything if Crinacle touches it with eq. Scary man...
bold of you to put blank keycaps on an ergo board. a touch typers dream, everyone else's nightmare 😂
It's also my nightmare trying to look for like * and % and such haha
does backlit led shine through this black version?
OMG that thock. Backed. I just need to find an OWLAB SPRING. THEY ARE NO WHERE TO BE FOUND!
poppy thockey goodness
that thock/cream combo is just stellar
dude what are your mic settings? mv7 sounds great and I’d like to replicate it if possible!
Nothing haha. Literally I have it on manual gain set to max and I run no processing for the voice. For typing test, only 5% noise reduction to filter out white noise.
I’m planning of building something stronger… An acrylic case, Pc plate, black ink v2 lubed with 205 and filmed with pc films! Last of all either cerakey keycaps or ifk delight
Damn, that sound.
It's like no other haha. Someone at work asked me if I was boiling water
Ohhh I missed this video; what are your thoughts on the feel of the keycaps to type on? You said it can be a bit different to plastic but does it still feel nice? Did you find they needed heavier switches too due to the weight?
It takes away about 2g of resistance I feel. Overall feels very nice!
@@Keybored thank you for the reply! I saw that they had no homing bars and was a bit worried about the glossy finish. Glad it feels nice that's very exciting!
this sounds like heavy pebbles hitting the ground
"Blurry65" sounds like a legit keyboard. 😂 These sound like all high profile caps combined. Like, their spacebars had children. Love the video as always -- though I do miss the deeper dive into the "why" behind the sound. You've started to normalize certain terms with me -- like air vs. structure borne sound. I would guess in this build, the caps are far more impactful than the board, and so the sound stems more from the ceramic directly. (And thus ends my cheap imitation of keybored science.) Also, do you prefer Arisu style over split? I know you've got experience with both now.
Haha, the keyboard was out of focus and my face was in lol. You should listen to the full size spacebar for this thing... it's waaaaay too crazy. Needs like a 80G spring tho haha. No worries, I'll bring back the "why" videos back too! I realized that back to back to back 15-20 min videos was a bit too much (for viewers and me haha) The split felt more different. Arisu feels like a normal keyboard to me when I type haha
@@Keybored the Kickstarter said they’re changing the space bar to make it lighter
I was just wondering when your video would come out on the Discord
:) it's here! Sorry for that little teaser
Hi. What type of layout is that? Alice?
i have heard electrodome style switch board sounds a bit thocky but i prefer the sound of this
I got in early on the Kickstarter. First keycap set I've been excited for.
I need to pick up a set with legends~! I'm really curious how the blue one will look!
Are there f and j bumps on the keycaps? I really need those to type lol. Great build tho, have a very similar spring build.
It’s a prototype set
I use an ErgoDox EZ, and I'm looking to get ceramic key caps. I noticed you're using nonstandard space bars. Did you need to ask for a custom set, or were you able to adapt your ceramic keycaps to the layout? Super valid if you're too busy to answer and I know it's a specific question.
I'm getting these for the moonlander. Did you ever get them for your ergodox? How did they turn out? Judging by their product page, I need to buy two keyboard sets to cover most of the keys for the moonlander (keeping in mind the keys are sculpted) which will leave me two piano keys and the triangle launch keys short. I'm most concerned with putting the keys on a north facing pcb however. Was the ergo north facing too? Did you experience any north facing interference?
@@liyuki2553 I never ended up getting them, unfortunately
Sir Thoccs-A-Lot I thank you!
Definitely thocks a lot!
i was looking at these a few days ago and i think they look pretty good! i prefer clack tho so not for me... fbtkl with sp stars meteor whites coming in soon :)))
I really like the idea of short videos, but the long ones are also bangers. So i would mix it up, so that the Most videos are long, but a few are short
Thanks for the feedback! Idea is to mix them up!
sounds like my old membrane keeb that was replaced by my modded rk61
Would be nice if the tops were matte instead of glossy, I wonder how that would perform long term for long typing or gaming sessions, or people with palms sweaty, arms spaghetti..
I thought that too. If there is a matte version, man it'll be so sexy
As someone with sweaty hands, I find my hands stick to things like smooth ceramic, glass, etc. when sweaty. Time will tell, I got in on the early bird price.
I agree; I also tend to prefer PBT for its matte feel. Random thought: how is this achieved in ceramic non stick cookware?
@@Keybored i do a lot of work in a ceramic studt, the coating on the keycaps is a glaze, its very hard to get a matte finish and a good texture, usually it is pretty rough so people tend to stick with glossier glazes as it feels better, the glaze also runs and sometimes has a hard time sticking to the edges, as you can see above, on the top of the keycaps, there is a little ring where the glaze ran, thats why some places are missing the black finish, i hope you guys can find this helpful
According to the creator he is still working on matte glazing
deep, thocky, very little clack or pop. im sold! now if they only had an sa version or something more rounded...
I can't even imagine how an SA profile will sound lol
Hey keybored, I have an ai03 e-white Polaris, and gmk shook, what do you think would be a nice switch
*shoko
I would go with any of the new gateron offerings. They are very nice. Also the Wuque onion is also nice
Wait were you able to cover the whole layout with one set of keycaps? I was actually considering this on owlab spring but I realized there's olny one 2.25 u shift so it won't fit
also no stepped caps lock ;_;
You know, I worried too. I don't have 2 2.25U. So I just used the "0" from the numpad set haha... at 2U. Surprisingly, probably because of the color, it worked without being too much of a sore thumb. It actually looks very normal haha. I used the 2.25U for the space bar and used the 2U for the left shift. Pretty well hidden!
@@Keybored Yes it is really well hidden I didn't notice
I feel like something like this would be limited to an ortho layout. Hate to imagine what kind of spring you'd need on the spacebar switch to get it to rebound properly on a 6.25u
I plan on using TTC Tiger switches with these on my QK65 I’m about to get. Hopefully they can keep the space bar up. Lol
Why was my first thought, that sounds crunchy.
sound good! but no words on thr keyboard?
This is the creamiest keyboard i've ever seen
What is the black-grey mousepad you used at 6:30 ?
Zambumon desk mat!
I missed ya Scott! Nice definition of thock~
Thank you! Glad to be back
You could make an ASMR vid with this board. (Also, why the Shure AND the lav mic both?)
I got lazy at the last minute and decided to just pull the shure haha... No editing needed to that audii
I first saw these on their instagram page and I really want these. For now they're too expensive for me but hopefully they'll go down in price as they sell more.
They need to release them as a MT3 set, the MT3 set already costs $100 as plastic
Welcome back, Scott. Do the key caps make the force necessary to push the key down feel any heavier?
Great to be back! it does definitely add to the downward force. So you might want to consider that for the weight of the switches as well. For the standard keys, my 62g long springs feel more like 60g at most
thock counter is off the charts
Just came from Badseed "Define Thock" vid lol! What a timing.
Haha, I know, it was perfect timing!
dude i love your videos love the thock
Thank you so much! I appreciate it!
great keyboard but I wish it was a regular layout.
I did message them about whether or not they'll make them in SA profile and said they'd consider it after the kickstarter has finished. I hope so, cuz I don't like cherry caps. That and SA ceramic keys would be nuts
Agreed. SA ceramic caps sans legends would be super classy.
ive never seen pcb flex cuts like that ever! how does it feel to type on?
It feels very nice and soft. Plus the heavy keycaps really do benefit from it where the cuts and the flexibility really helps to tamper the bottom out as well
How heavy are the keycaps? Would it be possible to get key chatter with lighter spring weights? Should you go for a spring weight that's actually heavier than usual; for instance, if I like 60g weight springs, should I go with 62 or 65 with these keycaps? Also, would the return be slower? I have so many questions hahaha. Thanks for the video; the engineer in me loves your content!
I'm actually using 62g long springs and they feel completely normal and fine. They caps are definitely noticeably heavier than abs or pbt. I can't tell the weights of each since my scale doesn't go that precise, but if you carry the entire set, you can def tell that it's about 50% or so heavier than a gmk set. For the spacebar (The 6.25) you def need like 80g or it won't return.
@@Keybored That's interesting, specially for the spacebar. Thanks!
I can't imagine not having a legend on a keyboard. I can't just remember where certain symbols are, or exactly where a number is without looking. Also having no numpad seems like a waste, same for the other 9 function keys.
now we're "thocking"...
These sound exactly like my standard plastic SA Dreameater caps, Holy Bobas, on my FR4 full foam Jelly Epoch.
Have to hear this in real life lol. I have some boards with SA caps and thocky setup, but this thing is just crazy
Daaamn indeed interesting
Have you heard that flurples keeb?
Can't wait for tripleshot ceramic keycaps
Haha, that would be insane
Wondering why they don't make unglazed version. I'm pretty sure unglazed ones feel better typing on.
I need this with the Capsule 65, yes please.
Should sound great!
I still say we should use the term "Marble-y" instead of Thock, this board OOZES it though. I'm gonna need to pick up a set of these caps asap
Definitely Creamy Marble for sure haha... so many catch phrases
me clicking on this video: fine I'll see the hype for these random legendless ceramic keycaps no way am I going to be interested though 9 seconds after video start: oooohhhhhhhhh god I'm going to spending a lot of money on a third board so I can have these arent I
bro i need this i have been searching for this for months and now i cant even get the keyboard god damn
😂0:40 - 0:44 Come at me, bro! 😂
Haha Thanks
How do I achieve a creamy poppy sound?
damnit now i want a full ceramic board
I didn't think it was anything special until I did it... now I change my mind haha
is it really called the legend virgin haha 3:47
If you got some thockier switches and a Pom plate I can’t imagine the thock
finally a $100 keycaps set that aren't overpriced plastic
Seems pretty crazy that someone actually made these
Take a shot every time he says thock.
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