Did Sukuna and Mahoraga Make a Binding Vow? + Viewer Questions | Jujutsu Kaisen
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Did Sukuna and Mahoraga make a Biding Vow? Lets talk about that and a bunch of other questions mostly revolving around Sukuna.
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Regarding the binding vow with big raga. I think it's a cool theory but im reminded of the scene in the manga where sukuna was pretty much like "you're mine now, not megumis, show me something" gives that "you are my dog and im the master do what ur expected" kinda vibe.
I want sukuna to talk to me like that
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BEST BINDING VOW IVE SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE
bro didn't get pinned yet?
@@Deeznuts-ev1nt only been 11 minutes
I just made that vow😊
If you break the vow you become the gojo figurine in the "incident"
In terms of “the ceiling” of 10S, he’s the only person to have tamed mahoraga, therefore by default he’s the best 10s user.
I feel like shikigami would probably be stronger when used by the original user. Just my idea tho, It'd be weird for it to be said side techniques kenjaku has can just be 100% as effective. IF megumi comes out he'll likely use 10S better than sukuna as a plot point of freeing him.
@@no3ironman11100I mean it'd be weird if he did but plot, I guess. C.e output and lv + skill should be what affects the power of c.t like cursed speech with Yuta. Sukunas 10s are massive and seem to have crazy power compared to anything Megumi had shown + skill and creativity wise Megumi doesn't come close to Sukuna. Good examples are actually Sukuna and Kenjaku with Getos c.t, their own users didn't use them anywhere close to what they have done. I'd actually like it if Megumi could actually do so, maybe picking up the fusion idea from Sukuna and joining all his shikigami and something like using all their c.t even when not summoned like max elephants water and his d.e. All that should at least be possible his output with the shikigami would always be lower that Sukunas but utilisation to that extreme should put him in the running for or firmly in top spot with Guys like Yuta or just about honoured one lvs.
@@no3ironman11100 There's a case to be made for that, since Sukuna chastised Mahoraga saying (and I paraphrase). "Forget Megumi's Fushiguro. You're my shadow now." Implying that Mahoraga was limiting itself in some way because its master was Sukuna instead of Megumi. However, for all intents and purposes, Sukuna IS Megumi right now, but this might be a different case for how he interacts with the 10S Shikigami. It's all very up in the air.
@@jaka1748 It's possible if megumi had sukuna's power level the 10s would be even stronger, and sukuna's raw power is what's improving it- as in if sukuna was much weaker fingers wise to the point he's equal to megumi the 10s' PERSONAL bond to him would hold back their max potential.
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I think what's interesting is that both times Mahoraga came out, Sukuna was actively using his adaptation. The first time being when Megumi's soul was taking the brunt of Gojo's domain while using Mahoraga's adaptation to adapt to Unlimited Void. The second time, Sukuna was using Mahoraga's wheel himself to utilize the adaptation process and then when Sukuna was knocked out, the wheel fell to the ground and Mahoraga spawned up from under it. Likely hood is, since Mahoraga doesn't actually have to be summoned to utilize his abilities, and his main priority once subjugated is to protect the user, he will always spawn in to protect you assuming you are using his ability in some way.
My thought is in order to use adaptation without raga running around boxing your opps you can tell him to just remain pseudo summoned within the shadows and he can exit the shadows if ordered to by the user.
LOL big daddy raga the opp stoppa! It feels like just about the whole JJK community on YT has seen Rab’s videos and that’s awesome.
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@@Anixd094 lobotomy kaisen is the most ridiculous shit I've ever seen and no other fandom's brainrot comes close to it.
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@@Anixd094the MHA fandom and Arkham subreddit are laughing right now
@@ultradeathboy Why did you say that the ham subreddit is laughing? It's jonkling, not laughing. Are you stupid?
I don't think we'll have seen the full utilisation of ten shadows until we've seen the complete chimera shadow garden, and possibly a totality with mahoraga in it
Sukuna did confirm that your own interpretation of a vow determines the rules, the same way your technique is limited by your interpretation of it.
If our potential man stop being a bum things can be turned around
They literally could have won 4 chapters ago if SOMEONE hadn’t given up…
I feel like megumi will be the last person standing while everyone is dead
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Not won but could've had better chances.@@escanorgaming525
@@escanorgaming525at best they would’ve separated/at least greatly damaged the connection between megumi and sukuna, at worst yuta at least wouldn’t have been almost killed
Sukuna Made A Binding Vow With Gege 🗣️💨👽😊
My attention raises 120% anytime Ino is remotely mentioned
Sukuna can use the technique of 10 shadows without the summons, he can also partially summon them. It's really just how good you are at it. He probably told maho to not appear until he has fully adapted to UV and blue. Gojo got played
Thanks for reviewing my theory, much appreciated.
Thank you!
When have we been shown that unconsciousness means the shadows disappear?? He was storing raga in the shadows in order to use the wheel we've never been told the wheel is seperate to raga, it's not the 11 shadows the darma chakra is part of raga as far as we know if its out then so is raga.
Sukuna, the batman from jujutsu kaisen, take some time and Preparation for this crazy guy and he solos the verse lol
Mf he prepared for one guy so he could beat him, calm down, lol.
@@HabitualThinker His plan was to kill Gojo at 230, to leave the fight with everything in his favor, Gojo who made things go out of plan If everything went as sukuna had planned, Gojo would die at 230, and sukuna would come out with mahoraga, with expansion, with the cursed energy at maximum, and with reverse energy.
Thing people have to remember is that Sukuna is actually inside the cursed object and his innate domain is a thing. It is entirely possible that he can trigger actions like slipping the body into the shadow by having his innate domain act as the final barrier to his consciousness. Keep in mind that Yuji was straight up dead when Sukuna revived him so Sukuna's consciousness extends beyond the host. Moreover, Gege loves things that have advantages and disadvantages - and since the latter portion of the fight with Sukuna have emphasized how Sukuna's connection with Megumi could be exploited as a weakness - it would also make sense for it to have some strengths. I will reiterate that Sukuna is the only character to not only no diff Mahito's soul manipulation but straight up bring Mahito out of his own domain and into his innate one. There is something to the innate domain that I suspect will be key to defeating Sukuna.
“Big Daddy, Ops stopper”😂
Pls do a video on cursed tool dragon- bone & the festering life sword
I personally feel like his curse technique has something to do with various death rituals. Fuga from firing a flaming arrow at a ship and such. And it would fit in the theme of his Malevolent Shrine. Especially since we know he used to accept sacrifices.
3:55 Sukuna used ten shadows in interesting and diverse ways during the Yorozu fight as well
Mahoraga will adapt to binding vows
I thought he was going to say the reason he had fire element is because he was performing micro slices against themselves in the air ( friction ) thus distorting it
This Question Has Been bugging me for a while,Why Did Mahito's 0.2 Second Domain in Shibuya Work On Todo to Transfigure his hand? Didnt Todo Activate A Simple Domain? Or was the simple domain destroyed in 0.2 seconds by Mahito's domain?
Mahito's Domain got him before he could activate the Simple Domain
@@caliqm2199 So The Guarantee Hit Got to Todo Before He Could put up his own Barrier? Then Why did Mahito choose to Only Target his hand and not something Blowing up his head? Or did the Domain Was Only able to "Hit" Todo's Hand Before Thr Simple Domain was Put Up? I get getting rid of his hand Destroys Boogie Woogie,But An Entire Arm or even the Head would be more effective.
@@DocOktoberfest It looks like the sure hit was only able to land on his hand. The transfiguration was gonna spread to the rest of his body,but Todo cut the hand off before it could.
I think Ino was gonna tell gojo about Nanamis death since he got seated before it happened, because if I remember correctly he was never told about it onscreen (or panel I guess)
He was literally discussing Nanami's death right before Ino came in
Lol I love the Rab reference
In the storm swapping panels Kusakabe tells Yuji to master it already. I don't think it was the body swapping that requires mastering, they already did it. I think it could be something else that Kusakabe has and was teaching him, like simple domain. The soul swapping was probably someone else's ability
I’m pretty sure the thing Ino wanted to say about Nanami was about the 7-3 cursed tool
Gege confirmed it ...the awaited one is coming back Naoya Zenin
Why does the Binding Vow Yuji made with Sukuna relies on Yuji's interpretation of harm? It was Sukuna who initiated the Binding Vow and set the conditions. He has an equal if not than a bigger part to play in the vow but it relies on Yuji's interpretation of harm solely. And since when is a binding vow left up to interpretation? Up until this point they have always been quite literal. Mechamaru thought Mahito violated the vow they made when Hanami attacked the Kyoto students, but Mahito rebuked this saying it wasn't him who attacked and Hanami didn't make a vow with Mechamaru. Their interpretations are clearly different here but Mahito suffered no consequence because the vow is taken at word, not intention.
I think in this case both Yuji and Sukuna were thinking similarly when making the vow. I'm paraphrasing but the "Not harming anyone" part gave a clear thought in each of their minds. Yuji cares deeply for others and wants to protect them, but regularly puts himself in danger to do so. He's selfless. So he naturally wouldn't think to protect himself from the binding vow, and Sukuna was intentionally omitting the possibility of harming Yuji just to have the chance to swap bodies later on.
Because "harm" is a very loose condition, yuji doesn't feel momentarily painlessly stopping bloodflow to knock someone out or getting his own finger ripped off is considered "harm to others" kinda self explanatory
First, the binding vow works off words and interpretation words are very loose sukuna said he wouldn't kill or hurt anyone that obviously means other people not himself yuji also interpreted it that and because him and sukuna were one person at the time he didn't take into account self harm which is what sukuna did
Yuji made those conditions, Sukuna wanted control for 60 seconds when he says enchain, those were his demands, Yuji's were no one gets hurt, but that didn't include himself, what you think in your mind also plays into the binding vow Edit: nvm I rewatched it, it seems Yuji agreed to Sukuna's conditions without stating much conditions of his own and that's why Sukuna called him a dumbass later on
A few thoughts: 1. No wonder Sukuna wanted Megumi, he wanted to recreate the fight from years ago between the six eyes user and the 10S user, he's a CE fan boy. 2. I think the "black box" is like a literal black box like an airplane, containing memories of the person Sukuna fought, and through that he can use their CT. I mean he shows up in people's heads when he kills them, he did it to Jogo and used his CT. So there's something there.
“Big Daddy Raga the Opp Stoppa” goes hard af
The stare down 😂😂😂
Earth could definitely be dismantle. Since he touches something and breaks it apart.
The Enchain binding vow did finish. The term of the vow was that Sukuna had control over Yuji's body for 1 minute, during which he couldn't hurt anyone* (not including Yuji) The minute is over
Hey so I’ve been theorizing about Yujis domain expansion, as we know Yuji and Sukuna are known as complete opposites, so what if Yujis domain was like the opposite of malevolent shrine, Like holy shrine? And instead of it having slashes it has something peaceful, because as we know not all domain expansions have to be deadly
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I think Sukuna just had a better master of ten shadows because of his potential and mastery of cursed energy as well as ten shadows being amplified by its user. 2. I think that was the peak of the ten shadows technique. He fused shiikigami together into a new one while wielding a fully tamed mahoraga. The last user that killed the 6eyes user , the 6 eyes user didn’t have limitless.
i wanna know why yuji's CE was red in that episode where megumi and itadori go into the detention center, and yuji has to fight that curse
Um.. are u related to Mr Ballen the guy who storyteller a mysterious events in KZhead? Because you sounds a lot like him maybe you guys are brothers or something. You also look alike too😅
The soul swap is kinda weak but op at same time like what do you gain out of that and once you do it the fight basically over end of jjk
I see *BIG RAGGA THE OPP STOPPA* I click
my assumption is that skunk isn't using it to his full potential, but probably to the highest extent its been used ever, I still think there are things to learn
Sukuna is the only person to ever tame mahoraga, so any which way he controls it is already the best it’s ever been used by default
Yuji might take megumi's soul into his body.
Are you cool with the thumbnail? I've just always respected how you keep the anime only's spoiler free and go out of your way to do so a lot of the time but the thumbnail paired with the title straight up spoils Sukuna swapping bodies.
Yeah seems like it took from the middle of the video, and not the first image that he wanted it to be for the thumbnail.
Even his videos on leaks have to much in the title and thumbnail, I prefer to wait for TCB scans and I still can't go into the chapter completely blind
It would make sense that Sukuna’s binding Vow would be “if I ever go unconscious, then Mahoroga will come out and save me bypassing the rule of shikigami not manifesting when a user is knocked out.” The take away could’ve been that mahoroga’s adaption against Gojo would be multiple spins. It did seem kind of random that against Gojo mahoroga needed so many spins to adapt, and sukuna never confirmed the theory by Gojo saying his technique was too complicated, he just smiled like he does when he has an advantage.
Thats dumb dumb, cuz if he hadnt created that binding vow he would have won during domain clashes only as it would take less spins for it to adapt to UV. Saving sukuna from his overload.
@@somerandomdude1605 you’re saying that in the past looking back on it, if sukuna was going into the fight of his life against presumably the second strongest sorcerer ever, wouldn’t you want a backup plan in case that sorcerer knocked him out? Gojo didn’t really start using blue until after the domains were over so it would’ve still took long for Mahoroga to adapt to red and blue. Gojo could’ve one shot Mahoroga at anytime which is why he was hiding in the shadows and only came out when sukuna was in trouble. We know sukuna is arrogant and thinks he’s the strongest so him having that type of BV is only in case he doesn’t win, he never expected to get knocked out but just in case, he had Mahoroga to stall until he woke up
@@khalilwilson2586 do love your sukuna hate rant tho 💀
@@khalilwilson2586 damn you really contradict(ed) you comment by saying sukuna is arrogant and believes he is the strongest.
@@somerandomdude1605 how so? Sukuna’s whole philosophy is strength is the end all be all and if you’re the strongest then you can do whatever you want. He openly accepts challenges from strong people to get stronger and evolve.
I have heard that the English translations are mistranslated..is it real please explain ..i that some of the translations says " even without the 10S I might lost " but the original translation is "even without 10S it would be very close " and there is no such thing said by gojo "nah i'd win" in case the original translation is "no" please explain this ..
john werry is a bad translator working for viz. I would recommend reading the fan scans as oftentimes they are more accurate to the Japanese version than the official published versions.
@@angryman2767 can u confirm what i said is true
Ino wouldnt tell gojo about toji because he doesnt even inow who toji is. He just thought that it was a random sorcerer from the past.
What if gojo's eyes were made to be a cursed object as well. Yuji would eat anything to beat sukuna and he did tell gojo to make him the strongest.
Might want to use the Shibuya image for the thumbnail if you don’t want to spoil anime onlys
I did, is that not whats showing up?
@@ManganimistYT Oh not initially lol
@@__lifeline__ sometimes YT is weird with the vertical videos and won't show it at first
What would happen if Gojo with 10s (assuming he has his infinity and six eyes) fought Sukuna? Do you think Gojo would have a easier time dealing with Sukuna than Sukuna did with Gojo?
man anyone could tell you the answer to this question is yes. Sukuna barely managed to get through the fight with Gojo without using his full heal, AND lost the 10s. And sukuna would need fire arrow to one shot mahoraga, which is alot harder to do with Gojo on his ass. Thorough, having maho doesn’t do much because they’re both leagues above him. Realistically this just leads to an adapted mahoraga attacking sukuna while Gojo just used DE while he’s distracted and deletes him
No because he has to choose between using Limitless or Ten Shadows.
I don't think much changes to be honest, just because Limitless is already so good. I think the biggest change would just be the fact that Sukuna no longer had the 10s, moreso than Gojo having it. Now if you're saying gojo ONLY has 10 Shadows and doesn't have his limitless anymore, than I think Sukuna probably beats him easier. But if Gojo has both, I'm sure he can pull out some interesting tricks but I bet he mostly just uses the Limitless still. Thank you so much for the support! 🙏🏻
@@ManganimistYT you think Gojo can't beat Sukuna even if he had both limitless and 10s?
@@samarendra109 Ask Gojo. Pretty sure he'll say Sukuna lol
Do you think so much of JJK’s audience’s confusion comes from the terrible official translations? I recently switched from Viz to TCB because I kept getting confused by John W’s official ones and started seeing more memes about how awful they are.
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What episode is this from?
Can you really see it tho???? Like TOTALLY see it??? Lol 😅
What if sukuna is a zenin clan member
What I was wondering about Sukuna is why when Yuji was "dominating" Sukuna in his body he couldn't use Sukuna's technique, but when Sukuna is "dominating" Megumi in his body he can use both Megumi's technique and his own ? And by extension there is also the question of will Megumi be able to use Sukuna's technique if he somehow takes control over Sukuna (with Yuji's help probably) ?
i think it’s because sukuna was forcefully holding yuji back, so much so that yuji wasn’t able to bring out his max potential while sukuna was still in him. So Sukuna wasn’t letting yuji get a lick of not only his cursed energy and technique but also Yuji’s own cursed energy potential, at least that’s how I interpret Yuji’s power up after Sukuna switched to Megumi
yuji doesn’t know how gojo said he would LEARN how to do it
@@Fxckinstupid Oh so the implication is that since Sukuna is just HIM he learned to do it as soon as he got Megumi's body ? Yeah I can see that
@@_loxymore_yuji wouldnt be skilled enough in jujutsu to forcefully use someones techique like that
I think you're talking about 2 different things, Yuji couldn't use Sukuna's abilities not because Sukuna was restricting it, it's because Yuji's body simply hasn't developed his CT, Sukuna transferred his soul into Megumi so he could take over a host that wont fight back, Sukuna has the ability to use multiple CT because CT are etched into the soul and thus etched into the brain as well, so he had access to his CT (soul) and Megumi's CT (brain and body) . Megumi would never be able to use Sukuna's CT because Megumi is not a vessel like Yuji is, Yuji is specially made to be able to hold and contain curses by Kenjaku. Megumi is just a sorcerer
Or he wasn’t actually knocked out
Occam's razor sukuna was never knocked out and even if a binding vow was used then gojo would have said it because no shikigami user can summon when unconscious especially when after sukuna was hit by black flash he used shadows to hide, how would he have done that if he is unconscious 😂
Occam’s razor would be that this is simply a plot hole to get sukuna through the fight
@@HabitualThinker that's not Occam's razor that's just you not being invested in the scenario presented to come up with a good argument
These shikigami can act separate from user. Sukuna also had the wheel on so mahoraga was partially manifested
@@Owen-sx4jj yes shikigami act independent from the user however they require a CE source to continuously operate, we learn that from megumi who's shikigami disappear if he loses consciousness. We see this 3 times in the entire series
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"mahoraga protect me" is all that needs to be said by sukuna, he's a 10 shadows shikigami after all, you'd expect the same from all the others
U guys just try so hard to belive sukuna was unconscious. There is no translation that says sukuna was ko ed , when megumi gets knocked out divine dogs were released and in every panel where u ppl say sukuna is knocked out he is up and about in the next panel.
I think next chapter he’ll do it the swap
I think he s learned alot
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It’s white in the manga😂
Purple, I’m pretty sure.
Who’s the artist from that first piece
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Yuji rips sukuna out of megumi and back into himself
I've had that theory that Sukuna's cursed technique could be Soul Swapping, and Yuji has gained it like Gojo said he would. Perhaps each time Sukuna swaps with a soul (for a limited time) he's able to copy/steal that person's cursed technique, but his body turns more and more deformed every time he does it (why Yuji has those weird hands)
(horrible theory btw)
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That wouldn't make much sense honestly lmao, we havent even seen anything to consider he steals CT, we just know he may have multiple CT
@@rick7122 I mean, that's a way he could have gained multiple CTs over the years ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@afanisthedolphin Not really, the multiple CT I'm referring to is Shrine and a fire based CT, we've only been seen 2 diff types of CT he used and a lack of variety of *different* CT, that's why I dont like the theory too much, It's definitely possible but with how limited we've seen Sukuna's arsenal I dont know
Hope Gege's not being influenced by Tarantino, guys a weirdo fr.
Yuji gonna feel the 19 inches
Yuji might soul swap with sukuna, making it yuji + megumi vs sukuna in yuji's body
Sukuna's soul isn't weak enough for yuji to swap anything yet
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The only reason 10 shadows rival's gojo is the fact mahoraga can beat a limitless + 6 eyes user, which is something literally no one else can do without the inverted spear of heaven
Even with the Inverted Spear of Heaven we saw Toji couldn't stand against a fully realized limitless + 6 eyes. Big Raga is just built incredibly different
Without a capable user, Mahoraga would get destroyed pretty easily by the likes of Sukuna and Gojo.
It can beat a limitless and six eyes user but can’t beat satoru specifically
@@TheMonsterClipstoji couldn't because he was too weak so while he could by pass infinity he didnt have the power to back it up
@@farsous10 It beat one in the past, meaning it's possible, to clear things up
If not 60 seconds have passed, then Sukuna has violated the binding vow. But anyway, this vow is strange because the rules were: 1) I will take your body for 60 seconds, 2) I will not harm anyone, 3) I will revive you, 4) When I say "enchain", we will switch places. There are no problems with 3 and 4, but with 1 and 2 everything is questionable. Obviously, Sukuna had harmed other people, and it probably didn't last exactly 60 seconds.
well you are right this binding vow is pretty vague and that allows sukuna to do what he does. It seems plausable the words themselves arent as important as the intent of the words. for example sukuna could rip off yuji’s finger because he wasnt concerned about protecting himself but others when he made that rule. and “not harming anyone is a pretty vague statement but I think the intent yuji had was to stop sukuna from dicing people up and killing people in other ways. he probably wasnt thinking sukuna would knock someone unconcious and depending on how he did it it may not have been counted as harming someone. and for the 60 second rule you could say that sukuna’s intent was “at most 60 seconds” or that since he phsically could not fulfill that rule after switching to megumi. or all these are violations and sukuna is yet to be punished by the vow. but I doubt it
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anyone with the slightest degree of empathy, lok
Binding vows are cheap at this point, a way to just hand wave shit willy nilly. Kinda tired of them.
All the binding vows that have been used in the manga have been acknowledged to have occurred this particular one was never acknowledged to even happened, the only reason people think it happened is because some people don't want to believe that sukuna was still conscious after being hit with black flash.
People like you that immediately 100% trust theory like this is why JJK fandom have bad rep. This is just THEORY and not a fact. In fact with the evidence that we have in the manga, Sukuna never got knocked out during the fights because of how fast he backed up on his foot after Gojo attacks.
@@CurseOxuin especially with how after immediately getting hit with a black flash he was able to go into the shadows which he shouldn't have been able to do if he was unconscious
@@mrterrific2323 The biggest evidence is how the adaptation still continues, if Sukuna got knocked out the adaptation would reset. Besides the binding vow needs sacrifices, you can't just willy nilly go "hur dur Mahoraga protect me when I'm unconscious".
Who made the first art in the video?
thing is sukuna wasn’t knocked out all all during that fight we know that bc megmui shadows disappear after a certain amount of damage or he becomes unconscious sukuna likely told maho before hand since he always has a hiding in the shadows
Megumi can't use em properly. Sukuna has mastered it
Mahoraga can work independently of the user's consciousness it seems. Sukuna was basically "unconcious" in IV due to not being able to think, see or feel anything, while also thinking, seeing and feeling everything at once, he had no physical control of himself or his CT and Mahoraga was still able to come out and save him, so Mahoraga most likely can act independently of the user's state as long as they arent dead
@@Owen-sx4jj has nothing to do with that lol
@@rick7122 all of megmui shadows can act independently that’s what makes them special
not a valid answer sukuna simply went inside the shadows all white eyes ≠ knocked out