In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Gail Cleavenger and analyzing it from an educational psychological and legal perspective.
In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Gail Cleavenger and analyzing it from an educational psychological and legal perspective.
Hey everyone! Thank you as always for watching! Apologies that these upcoming videos took a bit longer than usual to produce, but we have some very crazy cases coming up, including never-before-seen footage of a killer's video diary. When I first saw the footage, I couldn't believe it. It'll be one of the most chilling cases we've ever covered. We'll likely be publishing that next video within the next few days.
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This kid is terrifying. Tossing around adult phrases like he's the smartest person in the room. I'm glad he was interrogated by a no BS detective.
His friends are just as terrifying. I can't imagine helping my friend cover up the murder of their mother and being so nonchalant about it all.
Kinda of dum bc his mom gave him a great home, pool, food, clothes & love & now he has nil. Telling more than 1 person also. Betcha his mom is still watching over him in heaven & Greg feels zero remorse. He even tried to set his friend up with murder weapons. More like cohorts than friends.
@@RoshanAntonyTauroOh how horrible! I can’t imagine how anyone could see that and not be traumatized for life.
He probably has very high IQ but has extremely low social & emotional intelligence. These types of people are extremely dangerous (i.e. Ted Bundy).
Blah blah blah or whatever.
I love how narcissts believe they're much smarter than they actually are.
I hate it
@dorbacal I love whites. If you also do exclusively then don't respond to this comment
bro literally messed up the whole house and tought a thief would do all that confidently💀
@@olly8702 Then making it up all those stories that can easily be proven false. Let's be real, ain't no one gridning on that 😂
He’s 15.. there’s that
“Am I even going to jail, because I’m a minor? That’s not a thing, right? …..is that a thing?” Lmfa bro you’re cooked, byyyye
The judge is going to smoke his boots
There's jails for people under 19 actually I think, basically jail tutorial mode
Forreal😂
He is a few screws short on being smart infact he was probably dropped at birth on the floor by the Doctor
Prison for life ❤
If I was a teenager, and my friend told me he killed his mother, I would immediately snitch, like is that so crazy? Why would they help and cover for him?
LITERALLY THINKING THE SAME THING
Because they're losers
We're talking incredibly dumb and inmature boys here. The utter lack of understanding of the consecuences of their acts and the punishment they would be facing said it all.
All three of them have screws loose. 45 years in prison is a slap to the face.
Helped just to steal things from her like speakers, guitar and stuff
Knowing that someone is lying and trying to convince them to tell the truth slowly is a skill. I could never
I could never like basically literally
True. Props to the detective for his patience.
Make them feel intelligent and pretend you believe them and act like your their friend.
You’re *
@@shawneechojnacki1340theres an option to edit your comment you know.
Saying “Ah f^ck it, it’s whatever.” before admitting to KILLING YOUR MOM is one of the most disturbing, bone-chilling things ever. How a 15 year old can be this evil is beyond me.
My brother is very similar to this stuff, he is not okay mentally. He can lie to anyone, about anything and hurt anyone and anything with no remorse or guilt. He does not care, if we try to do anything that makes him upset he exaggerates and gets us in trouble, example, my dad picked him up out of his room to go to school, he said to the school mental health team that he was put in a headlock. (He was not, i was there the entire time). He has threatened to kill himself, to the point where my mother has had to wrestle a knife off him. He wishes everyone dies, he takes revenge on everything. He hated me as a kid, so he would pee on my clothes, steal my money, punch me kick me, name call etc as an act of revenge. With my parents its spend money recklessly, steal food and resources, hit the animals, hit them, tell them to k*ll themselves and that he hopes that they are murdered, raped etc. He does not care, he has no guilt, and we cant do anything as his psychologist and psychiatrist dont believe us, and believe his lies such as im never hurtful, never hurt anyone, dont often lie, not angry often etc. So i am concerned this is what he might turn to as he is aggressive and spoilt. I am not surprised a 15yr old can do this, as my brother is 12 lol.
@@randomaussie3905 That's rough. my only suggestion is that you secretly record some of his outbursts or things that he might later lie about so you can show people he isn't telling the truth without him knowing. you need to get help for him for your own safety. And keep trying different practicioners until you get one who listens to your parents.
there's an easy answer. religion
@@obscurereference6298 you are actually dense as hell
timestamp?
I love how once the detective had enough evidence, he just turned into a different person
😂 the fact that he didn’t take any of Greg’s shit, and in some ways was belittling in a professional way to a narcissistic, smug teenager tickled me greatly
The way his whole demeanor changed when he decided to show his true self was chilling. And the “oh well whatever” way he described what he did to her… I really hope he’s never released he WILL hurt others
on god bro hes a demon
To think that his mother endured pregnancy, childbirth, raising him...only to realise within the last few moments of her life that she raised a murderer...a sociopath or psychopath...
* “a lazy, pudgy, no ambition, no goals having murderer… a psychopath” Fixed it for you 😂
@@93FilmsandMedia "a lazy, pudgy, no ambition, no goals" hey now let's not fire a blunderbuss in here.
@@Arkantos117I felt personally attacked at that line
Even though it's not a requirement, psychopath usually implies a degree of intelligence. I think this guy was just low iq to the point of not being able to experience empathy.
As a mother, you'll have all kinds of red flags leading up to this kind of behavior but you're in denial because it's your child.
So scary that he wanted to be in law enforcement. I can't imagine how badly he would have abused such a position
thought this too. so so typical.
There are plenty of people in law enforcement who shouldn't be. Thankfully there are many more who do their jobs faithfully.
its not typical, vast majority are good cops, but that doesnt generate clicks like outrage negative news does@@olal9904
@@charlesfaure1189 There are more tyrants than the other
@@icegangsta5161 Proof? Oh yeah you have none. The other guy might also be lying, but at least he doesn't insult anyone.
I’ve never hated the phrase “blah blah blah” more than I do right now while watching this kid talk.
He’s a bum
@@TheRealTact I think it’s a little more than that …
@@jenna_jenna_jenna a psychotic bum
I can't imagine sitting there as that cop that knows the boy. The way he goes from "I hope shes okay, I want her back" to that narcissistic "I did it and I dont care" defensive state of denial. Tremendous respect to these officers keeping their composure and getting this disturbed child to confess and cooperate calmy.
“He tells one of the most chilling confessions we’ve ever heard.” *ad starts playing*
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Literally just got to that part and I laughed 😂😂
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A mothers day advert too... chillingly appropriate
Time stamp?
i really find it fascinating how detectives can stay so calm while someone describes such a crime in front of them
You just get used to it.
Yeah you get used to it after a while
I don't think they get used to it. I have seen enough true crime documentaries where detectives will break down and need to step away from the interview, a case that stays on their mind making them emotional, etc. I think they just know that they have to show composure to get the truth and justice.
They have to keep control to do victim justice asap. Its not about them and so they do their job as priority. Doesnt mean theyre cold
Professionalism. They no doubt despise him, but acting on that is going to mess the case up.
The complete absence of “where’s my mom and why aren’t you looking for her instead of talking to me about school”
If this channel has taught me anything, it's never to talk in an interrogation room without an attorney present
Well, if you are innocent. I assume you agree it’s a good thing this monster confessed right then and there.
And don't murder your mother !
Never talk to police
I loved how he tried to bargain himself from murder 1 to murder 2 to by speaking aloud his twisted as logic in the form of a lie. That not how a proffer works bud. I'm sure he will stew on all this stuff as he works on an appeal 20 years after he's finally come to terms with what he's done.
always lawyer up, doesnt matter if your innocent
He’s actually excited and relieved to give his confession. He’s proud of his work as you can tell by the numerous times he brags about it. The irony is that he was sloppy, obvious and incredibly reckless. This wasn’t the crime of the century, like most narcissists he thinks he’s much smarter than he is.
It's hilarious to see the Detective check each part of his story and him just freeze up, then use defensive statements like "Up to you if im telling the truth"
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He didn't brag about anything! Do you know the whole story he has lived? Murder is never the answer, but the cops are fucked up! He has serious issues 😢
@@alycegoodale3059if you didn’t hear him brag you need your ears checked
@@alycegoodale3059 You yourself said "murder is not the answer", so you yourself are saying that it doesn't matter what happened in his life as he made a definitive mistake. He's a monster, plain and simple, and if you feel sorry for him, then you need to get some perspective.
This detective is a master interrogator. He trips the kid up so many times by being more ready than he is.
Well it’s a 15 year old kid.
@@PeeBurps-gk7cuyou'd be surprised how other "detectives" do in other videos 🤦🏻♂️
The kid's story was also just completely terrible from the beginning.
@@mikeymoss6281yeah, it's a mess. I started watching this with a thought that he was not the murderer (never watched this type of videos, thought they'd change a suspect midway) but the moment he said about Joe it was obvious he is the murderer
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Makes me so sad that 3 teens can be so apathetic and show no remorse for the mom having just been killed. Man...what a world we live in with hellspawns like this.
I appreciate that you don't just let me watch without telling me what's about to happen, I am a simpleton so I need everything explained to me in detail.
Imagine being the kid's sponsor, someone I'm guessing was pretty involved in his life, sitting in with him and supporting him during a time when you assume he's going through a lot of heartbreak only for him to confess to murdering his mother right in front of you.
The sponsor was a detective himself with the department. He was brought in to assist in the interview, not to support Greg. When the detective walks out and tells him to talk to the sponsor, it was a tactic to try and get Greg to confess, as he may be more willing to confess to somebody he knows and trusts. The sponsor I can assure you was well aware of why Greg was being interviewed.
@@willmckee1632he was kiddo's sponsor and he was shocked about hearing it. Don't act it's not correct The other sidr of a story is his detective role in a case that helped questitoning Edit: I am just reading that hoth Brian and the other broke their paroles and not sure if Brian is going to prison now
The sponsor knew right away, as soon as he saw the marks on his face.
Imagine you are a cop and a woman is missing. You find the son with a swollen eye and bruises. Then you find the house very differently out of order than any other robbed house you saw and the son behaves strangely. That alone is very telling to those cops and I think they pretty much knew it immediately. @@BushcraftEurope
They already knew if after they listened the 911 call , you think he found out that at the end of video?
It’s disturbing to think about how he was crying and saying “i hope she’s ok” and four hours later he admits to murdering his own mum... it’s horrible
And calling her a b*** several times. Or how he said he "finished the job" when he noticed she was still moving. All that bullcrap about impulse. He went into her room, tried to kill her, walked away and then "finished the job"
@@9inchnail fr is so fccked up
The fact that he killed her when he could have called the police and show them that she was beating him if she actually did
@@HornofSalvationand the police would do nothing
@@autumnblaze6267yeah, I don't even know why people would think the police would do anything.
The fact that he told his friends and they didn’t call the cops is absurd 😮what monsters
I was thinking the same, and that happens too often. Folks have no moral compass.
Just imagine giving birth to a child only for them to turn their back on you and literally murder you, absolutely terrifying.
I had my eldest try to send me to prison for 7 yrs as a abuser whilst I was hurrying my mother who died of motor nouron as hos mother defrauded the will and the morgage I then had the middle child who I saved from them run away and make ore a use reports to police under instruction form his older brother via Facebook I exposed far left white male hatred in the system police and services to then be rearrested 10s of times as a white power freak or other mDe up loonies shit I'm 51 now in amazing shape look 30 my eldest is now a 30 something fat ugly drunk covered inttas who never had a job my youngest a fat lesbian man hater there mother still a deranged thief liar and a body arms like the mom in what's eating Gilbert grape. A middle boy who's on steroids huge and full,of made up shot about famous people I am tne same loving loyal good looking sane normal person I always was I sometimes think AT least they didn't murder me or some other shit I live Totley alone and result my entire life I learned tne hard way most people are utter filth
Lol
Maybe don't beat up your son then?
@@YepItsHenry Those looked like scratch marks, which is a weird way to beat up a kid. I bet he just lied about it so he could look like the victim if his story was "she beat me, so I killed her". However, he probably got those while strangling her, he had scratches on his hands and torso as well. Moreover, his attitude was that of a spoiled child rather than an abused one. He definitely killed his mother because he had a legit reason in his mind, but I doubt he got beaten
@@YepItsHenry he only told the side of his story, you gonna believe him just like that after all that he bullshitted like "I hope she's okay" throughout the whole interrogation? if she did beat him up so badly most of the time and knowing his personality, he'd brag about it to the detective by saying "don't care, she made my life hell so I send her to hell lmao"
watching this interview is making me realize that I would come across as guilty even if I'm innocent.
Spot on the big problem with the channel's signature type of bullshit analysis
Same.
Yeah I'm thinking the same, I have social anxiety, PTSD. And likely high functioning autism based on some testing. I do a lot of arm crossing, feet up on chairs, lack of eye contact, over explaining and hyper fixating etc.
My mom has always told me that you’re guilty by association. You’re guilty just for being around and seeing it happen. It doesn’t matter if you didn’t stab someone, or you didn’t strangle them. But you were still there and saw what happened. So obviously the cops are going to get you in jail time.
@@MW-cw9yi deadass same 100% anxiety and social anxiety, i think i have PTSD behaviors from my childhood. dunno about autism but the more i learn about it the more i begin to think im a very high functioning autist xD. Crossing my arms is so comfortable, perhaps the MOST comfortable, even if i have a sweater with a big pocket, it still more comfy to cross arms, feet up on chair 100%, cross legs or ankle on knee, i CANNOT eye contact unless i force it and commit to it and psychologically gaslight the other person into thinking THEYRE the awkward one by ignoring the awkwardness and forcing THEM to deal with it xD i LOOOVE over explaining because the more details i can shove into ever single moment i can, the more information i feel like im conveying, and the more it can be understood as long as time is taken to dissect and put together everything im spewing out LMAO, but thats the problem, thats IF the time was taken to analyze everything i said and did and whatever. normal people wont really put in all that effort just to better understand all the information i just conveyed, they'll just give up half way through everything im saying and just close it off with an "uh huh, oh yeah, for sure, i know exactly what you mean" xD so in normal cases more is less, because it easier to understand easier things, even if easier things have less intricate details that you can gain more information from, that just makes it harder to see it all when youre bombarded with every small detail, like, unless you take the time to analyse it, which like i said, normal people, in a normal convo arent going to take the time to do that, and will just forget all the nonsense i spewed, kinda like what i just did with this comment right now. i kept adding more and more and more details which makes it harder and harder to grasp my exact point just from a glance and it now takes time and effort to work your way through this whole comment to be able to understand it all more clearly as one cohesive story or whatever, idk. but like if i would have just said "deadass same 100% me too" then thats it, thats all you got, its way easier to understand, and draw conclusions from, but in becoming easier to understand at face value, it get much much MUCH harder to understand what exactly my situation is, i can say "100% same" and then they'll think it the same exact 1 to 1 issue, but if i say "100% same" and then explain every bit of why i came to the conclusion of "100% same" then they understand the more in depth reasoning behind why i felt that im "100% samesies" 😂does this comment alone prove im autistic? uh oh, dont diagnose me, i dont wanna know
he says he'd never hit her through rage, yet he kill her through rage
Well honestly the more you hold that rage back, the more you try to hold it in, the more likely you are to snap, a big one, so that's not too far fetched.
but it didn't seem Iike he even WAS in a rage. It seemed mroe Iike a "mmmh... Whatever... " kind of decision, rather than a deep in the heat of the moment, snap!
@@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. While I do think he might not have hit her before however I also think he is a psychopath either the case. Even if he snap and attack her. Most people regain their confidence after short amount of time and definitely before 30 min of strangling. Definitely the mom isn't a good person but didn't deserve the death. Anyway really sad news and it should make parents realise after certain age your children will not tolerate your mental and physical abuse and might fight back and kill you.
Who would even say that. How about "I've never hit her" like us normal people who don't hit people would say. What a pathetic spoilt rotten brat he is.
well.. he wasn't lying when he said that lol
“what did she do?” “i mean, what can you do in that situation?” 💀
“i only have two friends myself.. brian, and uh.. yea just brian”
He's telling the story like its everyday routine.... this is genuinely terrifying. This kid has no feelings, no emotions, he's just sickening.
Cause he was hit
@@SergeantArxelCone You acting like that's an excuse or even an explanation??? as a child abuse victim you are full of BS
Thats apathy. A mental illness
Honestly the biggest and first red flag for me was when he was swearing around these adult authority figures. He was trying to appear tough and smart, which would be unnecessary in this situation, normally.
@@fsisrael9224 lol no, that is not apathy, and apathy is not a legitimate mental illness. That is sociopathy.
I honestly can’t decipher what is more horrifying about this. The son committing the murder or the two friends laughing about it all. Scary that these types of kids exist.
You see this kind of disregard of human beings by kids on the internet, laughing at the sickest shit. It's truly disturbing.
@@l4zrh4wkit’s mind blowing
You se looking at the end of America!this is wgy college kids are amused by what is going on with Israel! God tells us thid will happen before the end so pray and watch!
@@l4zrh4wk So true and scary.
@@thomastolbert6184 How anyone could find amusement in what is happening in Israel is truly sad, sick and disgusting.
Great job detectives in pulling this confession out of this narcissistic sociopath.
I heard “Volusia county” and immediately knew what this was. I knew some people who went to school with this kid and it’s the same old story “there was always something off with him but nobody could ever figure it out”
which school? uhs?
@@nemesistic yeah. Same school where some idiot bit the head off of a chicken and left it in the parking lot
the fact greg was pretty enthusiastic in the part where he finally tells the truth is genuinely shocking
He really wanted the detectives to think he was smart.
@@joe6700see to really be smart you gotta realize it's easier to turn 18 and move away like everyone else with crazy family than be a murderer
@@joe6700no, he was proud of how he handled it quickly and wanted to show off
its a combination of narcisism and finally not having to lie
Spoiler alert. Damn
My favorite part about this video is when Greg brags about how good of a job he did the video immediately cuts to show how shitty of a job he really did.
Yeah, why would burglars throw cutlery and dishes on the floor... Do they think they're gonna find an expensive set of collectors spoons in there or something?
Same. He really thinks he’s some criminal mastermind.
lmaoo I was about to say this, it's funny how cocky he is
is there a timestamp?
@@snezzzz can’t remember but it happens multiple times in the video
This is more fascinating than any reality TV show out there
great work, amazing video! Also love how his police mentor was there while he was being questioned and definately knew something was up when he asked about his bruises.
the sexual assault line gave me so much second hand embarrassment because it was so obvious he tried to change the subject & manipulate their emotions/empathy😭. it was such a weak attempt
When does that come up?.
Nvm it just came up.
@CranBerry-0 when does it come up
@@blitzwarzone342 43:21
@@VikramRutabaga wait when?
Wow the interrogator really said “you killed your mom” and the silence was SO LOUD. I actually gasped. And the feeble “why would you think that” is just so horrifying. Freaking sinister. Unbelievable.
No it wasn't loud. It was literally silent. You were just disturbed. Find a better form of expression.
@@Evil_Teddydamn lol
@@Evil_Teddy mmm, no, that expression is working just fine for me. Find a better form of interacting with people.
@@Evil_Teddyman cmon don't be that guy, you understood her just fine, it's an expression similar to "the silence was deafening" just get along
@@Evil_Teddyactual 🤓 moment
23:00 "do you know who makes it?" "Zero Clue" .. Then when the cop said it is popular I realized it's the brand's name lmao.
It’s not he was making a joke
I thought it was a joke, before your comment
Same here.
I didn’t realized until I read this comment but this was very disturbing how nonchalant Greg was when he was confessing
I love how this video displays a blurred picture of the kid's friend "joe" but it's not even a picture of him. It's just a stock photo that they blurred. Edit: I made this comment when I was only at the beginning of the video. Now I've come to realize Joe probably doesn't exist. But still, the stock photo has no purpose lol.
they do this for people who weren’t directly involved w the crime to protect their identity
Yeah well it's still someone 🙄 who likely doesn't want to be associated as a mugshot. It crosses the line of just being a stock photo here.
This part played right when I read this comment lol
@@pennyp7382its not a mug shot so its fine. When you're in sto c photo's youll always be used for certain images with a certain goal
@nienkevanderende6512 Wow...no shit Sherlock. It wooshed right over your head. You just don't get it. I'm well aware what a stock photo is. Ffs.
It’s absolutely disgusting hearing him explain the whole scenario of how he killed his mom, it made me feel worse at him referring to his moms body as “bitch”, it’s absolutely sickening
@@politelyvulgarvernacular Of course you do.
@@politelyvulgarvernacularwould you like a medal for your edgy-ness? Since clearly you are super cool and totaly unphased like the rebel you are!
@@politelyvulgarvernacular I was actually thinking the same thing lmao. 😂
Seemed more try-hard to me.
@@politelyvulgarvernacularcongratulations, wanna come over to my place so we can laugh about it?
The scariest part about this is that this kid is 15 and he’s talking about his crime like he’s been doing this for 20 years.
when contrasted with the stress of trying to improvise some dumb alibi, bursting the floodgates open about what really happened flows like water
Stop calling grow up adults kids
@@PepeCoinMania But he is a kid? He's 15. Not an adult.
@@PepeCoinManiaHe's a kid, knobhead. And a KID sees everything differently. He only remembers about 10 years of his life and in that time, his mum was hitting him and I guess his dad up and left at some point. Not excusing it, but it's not an adult that did it out of the blue. You don't need a degree in psychology to figure that out.
The narrator's voice is so annoying.
Me a 15 yr old, has never thought that someone the same age of me would kill his mother.
Everything about Greg reninded me of my ex.. rhe way he spoke, the way he acted, he even looks like the teenage version in my ex.. im so grateful to be away from that POS and that i didn't end up dead (well, just emotional).
I hope your realize that you are a strong survivor. You can and will heal; but it takes time. Get counseling if you can. There are good people in this world, too. Just be smart about people. I wish you all the best in life. Have a wonderful life.
@@user-nt4oy8cu1n thank you so much for your comment.. it literally brought me to tears. I am definitely working on healing. I don't think I'll ever be suited to be in a relationship again. I am completely broken and don't have the energy to invest emotionally in anyone else but myself at this time . Have a beautiful day and thank you again!!!
@@user-nt4oy8cu1nor it is a judgment
The hardest this kid has ever worked in his life was the night he killed his own mother who’d given him everything. Disgusting
All 3 of these boys are the product of lazy, inadequate, and inappropriate parenting, and probably inferior genetics, too. There's a reason why they associated with each other. I guarantee their families are disgusting, vile people who are poor role models in every aspect to do with maturity and respect. They show no respect for others, for safety, for the property of others, for appropriate socializing according to any circumstance in which they would find themselves. These boys and their families are ignorant. I highly doubt they would have done any better with their lives even if not involved with this incident.
... also, it's FLORIDA. Ew.
NO SHIT!!! 👏
@@charmingjinx9379his worst offense is being from fl*rida
Wanted more because of seeking friends approval.
I really believe Greg is irredeemable. The callousness of how he talks about the whole situation and the pride he took in taking his own mother's life is sickening.
Are you a doctor? Incredible insight here. Thank you
@@irie_fatherwhen a white guy likes the sound of his own voice
What about his two friends?
@@pauldaniels2179 what about them?? Speak up pip squeek!
@@irie_father I think you miss read me, Im saying they just as crazy as him. But the "pip squeek thing" come on, your behind a screen, you cant be tough on the internet behind a screen and a keyboard😁😁😁
If killing his own mother was not enough, he tried to cut her finger off to get the wedding ring to sell it. That's not impulse, that's pure evil.
When the phrase "flip the page" came out, you know that detective was like ' oh here we go now....'
"I don't have many friends" --- Tells a story involving 20 friends he hangs out with for hours lol
It’s always ppl like that who say that shit all the time yet have so many friends. And they’re always the most disgusting ppl
“We smoked some cigawwetes. Then we drank some alcohol. Theh uh… we smoked some more.” That’s when everyone in the room realized how OG and gangsta he was. Just kidding he just looks like a massive dork.
Kids today, cuz of social media, think that you need 100's of friends to be popular and be considered as "having friends". I've got 1 best friend and I'm good with that. I'd rather have 1 best friend than 20 acquaintences.
Truly agree. Quality over quantity. 👌
I found it absolutely terrifying that he had already taken such an active interest in policing.
Clearly he's been planning this for a long time.
Agree'
40% of cops beat their wives!
You'll be surprised what you will find out about cops if you did a thorough background check from the time they were children....
@@OldManBoxingbet big money a large percentage of serial killers in America are law enforcement.
Sadistic and brutal. He spoke so lightly about the murder of his own mother without the slightest regret. He would be even more cruel to others if he had the opportunity.
I love being impressed by good interogators. Every video these guys are so professional and theyre just everyday people who dont get fame or notriety for their work, they just care about getting the truth so justice can be served. Great people
The fact his mom was scared to sit close to him is heart breaking. I'm just looking at my baby boy, the way he smiles at me, and the way he snuggles up next to me and I just can't imagine what Gail must have felt, looking her baby boy in the eyes as he ends her life, seeing the same eyes she looked at while she snuggled him as a baby, nursed him, changed his diaper, gave him baths. Truly gut-wrenching.
Describe it like that and it's fr something 😿😿
You ignored the part where Greg describes that GAIL used to hit him and beat him (and that it got worse and worse) ☠️
A child's parents have a lot of say in how their kid's mind is shaped though. Gai;'s behavior towards him didn't seem like that of a warm, loving parent. It's horrifying what a lack of love from parents can make people do.
wow - after this I had to look up that hitting your children is apparently still legal in the USA. thank god I live in a more civilized country. I mean he is bad but his mom might have been a bad person as well?
@@hinglemccringleberry7265you can hit your hit but not beat them
The fact that he tried to appear like the murder was hard on him by saying he almost killed himself, then saying he tried to cut off her finger to pawn the wedding ring astounds me.
And then referring to her as "the bitch" when he said he kicked her into the hole 😬
Sick
i laughed when he said kick the b @@breepoole8461
@@lonelynights5393huh💀
@@bobbyhill9918 I mean that was unexpected
Imagine giving birth to your killer. Like she obv didn’t think this would ever happen but when I hear cases like this. It makes it that much more chilling. Having a kid not knowing one day they will kill you 😰 scary
It's insane.
Explore be like “You can tell by how he’s speaking unclearly, fidgeting, and looking away that he’s lying and nervous” Then 10 seconds later say “you can tell how he’s completely still, speaking clearly, and making eye contact that he’s trying too hard to lie”😂
Wow, once he realized they knew it was him they couldn't shut him up. He was so eager to show the cops how clever he was in planning this murder and coverup.
He was literally bragging. Disgusting.
I just cant understand people like this, its beyond my comprehension of how truly evil people can be. His own mother to top it off.
Classic narcissist. Head too far up his own ass to realize how it sounds. You could see a lot of glimpses of that even through his lies, like when he felt the need to go into detail of how his door got knocked down or the very specific items "missing."
Just straight up psychopaths. None of them have any empathy.
Well you remember in the beginning where in this "argument" with his mom, he kept referring to how "capable" he is. He seems pretty sure of himself. Most of the time, people that talk like that are pretty narcissistic.
This case actually had my jaw dropped. The way he was so nonchalant about explaining how he killed his mom and what he did with the body????! Actually unreal
All humans are the same, we're all capable of this in the right circumstances, and that is what I think truly disturbs people
You couldn't be more wrong lol@@Feuerbach1
@@Feuerbach1you need to search for a help asap !
Same. I listen to/ watch true crime stuff like all day every day but this one got me. We even vacation in daytona every year and my dad has been trying to move there for years. I had never heard this one. But my jaw dropped, I shook my head, I audibly gasped... this one was wild
@@Feuerbach1spoken like a serial killer.
Wow the detective did an amazing job I must say. Awesome work!
Seeing the sponser move to attention after Gregory said “I’ve made mistakes” was crazy
OH SHIT This footage is finally out! I wasn't directly friends with him, but my friends were, Brian and Dylan. Crazy to see how this happened. I found out this happened at work one time, it was so surreal when I heard his name. One day at school, he mentioned his cat was killed, and I was like "I'm sorry, how old was she?" He said she was shot with a bb gun, multiple times, he totally killed that fucking cat and I figured he was just trying to be edgy.
yoo that's crazy, was he usually antisocial and did a lot of ppl think he was weird
@@user-ji7ik7ef3s I mean, it wasn’t anything TOO weird, he just seemed like a regular “weird” kid that I knew, and clearly had a troubled home life, but he had no issue talking to anyone, pretty social dude. Just took a turn for the worst unfortunately..
Is anyone at school angry at those 2 friends or were their reputations not as bad as his? I've seen a lot of ppl from your school in the comment section, they seem chill about the whole thing
@@bhagrtwas it true about him being sexually assaulted or was that all made up to garner sympathy? Same question for Greg and Dylan wanting to kill themselves were any of that true? I know he was mixing the lies with some of the truths but it wasn't really clear to me in the end. It's so confusing that he wanted to kill himself but he's grateful to his mom for keeping him alive, then proceeds to kill his mom for allegedly wanting to kill him when he wanted to die in the first place.
@@ChrisM-qo1jc Not sure about any sexual assault, Dylan actually was my neighbor, and thats how I met him and Brian when I moved into that neighborhood and when I changed school to University HS. Dylan was a smart kid, he had struggled with depression etc. I dont believe Greg was suicidal. He admitted to taking the course of Forensics or whatever to try and help him better understand the workings of investigations. Not personally, but I vaguely remember reading it in one of the written articles after the murder. He definitely thought he was smarter than he was. But I believe he was just troubled, and he shows less remorse because I'm sure she wasn't the greatest to him, but I don't think murder is justifiable at all. But I don't like how these videos portray some things... Of course after murdering their mother, they're less likely to be super remorseful/show emotions because they're still processing it, it's not just narcissism. It's a life changing event, trauma, shock. And Brian and Dylan got stuck with his shitty problem, and I feel for em cuz they were smart dudes, funny guys and were my homies back at UHS, but they should've stayed clear of Greg for sure. Before I enlisted, I actually ran into Brian working at a McDonald's by my house. Chatted it up a little, nothing into the situation, but he seemed to be doing better. Believe this was before he was sentenced the 364 days in jail. But I believe they'll be doing better once they serve. It's truly a shame.
His desire for sympathy and attention was evident, and I find it disgusting how he tried to manipulate interrogators.
People mistake survival for intentional manipulation
@@comfykeegssome people value truth above all else
It's disturbing to think there are young people in our society like this. A vast majority of them will fly under the radar because they're highly charismatic and know how to manipulate. The ones we see here on EWU Krew are the few that took it too far.
I don't find it shocking at all. I will always go "all in" when betting on people telling any lie necessary to keep their ego and perception of good standing in the moral hierarchy intact. I have lost that bet before, but if we were to talk dollars made for always taking it? I'd be rich, despite the few losses.
The grossest part for me personally is that I feel like I've met this same kind of guy a hundred times. Dated some even.
I was abused as a child and never once thought about murdering my dad and my ex step mum.
I’m not a psychologist, but can easily tell he’s lying.
Same.
Well duh
Psychologists are truth detectors? They are trained in behavioral science and therapy, they aren't human lie detectors.
Same. He's trying so hard to make himself look good, and lacks concern about his mom's whereabouts is what gave it away for me.
I'm not a liar but I can easily tell that he's not a psychologist
If an actor in a movie acted exactly like this killer, people would say it was unrealistic. He was so cold and nonchalant. The other two acting like it was not going to affect them other than some minor inconvenience is astounding
No matter how psychopathic you are, it's hard to commit a crime like this and lie hundreds of times to the cops without slipping up.
well look at patrick bateman, hes pretty much the same but charismatic
@@kaitlynmorgan4613😂
Yeah, people watching TV and movies love drama. Real life situations like these have little to no drama after the initial shock of what happened.
It's chilling to me.
I can't imagine how Greg's mentor must be feeling as he's watching all of this unfold.
He knew from the first 30 seconds.Police departments look for specific types of kids for these explorer programs because they can mold them into cops who will follow directions blindly.
@@francissobotka8725hell probably get paid administrative leave and a promotion.
@francissobotka8725 give me a break...
@@kellyfinleybrown9313 Based on how police reacts to the public and treats individuals violently, some of it outright murder which they get away from without even being fired, I'd say there is a reason why cops (I call cops Chekas) have a trust problem with the public. I usually say that the biggest mafia is the cops, because they're armed, they can lie as they whish, protected by the justice system, and colleagues who lie for them too.
@@francissobotka8725he knew from the first 30 seconds because he knows the kid and is an experienced detective. But you're being quite conspiratorial about police explorer programs. And I say that as someone who is generally critical of American police culture.
dude missed a great opportunity when he asked what joes last name was
That's not funny considering he actually killed his mom
@@JD-tm4ee you seem like a fun person to be around
@@fullsnarf959 I mean, there are some things that should be handled seriously and delicately, especially with how this information is presented.
@@10thletter40 yall watching this for entertainment and want to virtue signal about a joe moma joke
@@fullsnarf959 No, not virtue signaling, trust me, I'm quite the opposite to do that 😂 But there should be some line of decorum Id say
The American mental health system is a joke. All parents of kids like this see the warning signs from an early age, but there is not system to intervene EARLY, when intervention may actually make a difference. To be afraid of your own fifteen year old child is horrifying. There was really no place for this poor women to get adequate help. Tragic.
It's chilling what a narcissistic psychopath Gregory is. His mother told him she was scared of him -- she knew him well.
Are you a doctor to be able to diagnose him lol and the word narcissists is being used way too much
did u watch the video bozo?@@theredwhoop9372
@@theredwhoop9372 did you watch the video
@currency2953 idgaf if I do watch the video who are you mfs to diagnose someone
@@theredwhoop9372it's clear, the way he acts and speaks
The moment of Greg's confession was incredibly horrifying. Straight faced, bluntly stating such a shocking moment of anyone's life in the same tone one would use when complaining about a minor inconvenience on a work day. 15 years old and that kid is the stuff of nightmares.
Beyond that, crowed with pride about. His eventual admittance showed how everything before was sham emotion. At first my heart great tugged a little thinking a bad moment in uncontrollable emotion had this kid wrecked, killing his mom. But that shit was fake fake fake
But the way his mother beated him (you saw those bruises on his face) quite explain his calmness. He must have been brought up this way. I can imagine her anger because of his attitude to school and marks, etc., but to beat up a teen like this is for sure a marker of domestic violence. And yes, sometimes they beat back. She did her best to bring him up like this, and she got fruits. I feel sorry for both of them, but I am not surprised. If somebody beats you up like this it is unlikely that you will grow an deeply empathical and compassionate person. And I guess nobody knew about this abuse? Including his father. They both needed help and they didn't receive it. I feel sorry for both.
@@aiveeaivee4607 I feel sorry more for Greg than his mother tbh.
If that is scary then you have no business in real life this is so tame. Just a sick kid who needed help but doesn't get it
Yep that's what a psychopath is.
You guys are excellent professionals, hope there is more people like you, makes me fell more secure/ confident with life… Bravo! I’m impress😊, very sad for the mother😢😢
Omg the way he refers to his mom as "it" and a "b!tch" i cant
"Only one person keeps a secret, Greg!" Wow, such great and quick thinking by the officer, shutting down his BS, absolute gold. Hats off for that amazing investigator!
has the quick thinking officer forgot to read the little monster his Maranda rights? EDIT: Oops. my bad. I missed it.
@@lopezlopez7132at the beginning of the video the narrator talks about this
@@carloswinchester2623 He does? I guess I missed it. My bad.
I think he was so quick to the killer's game!
I had to laugh at him handing out that little nugget of fatherly advice.
News footage, police bodycam footage of the crime scene, analyzed interrogations, court footage and sentencing all combined make for the perfect true crime video. I wish more channels would stick to that forumula as well. That's why EWU is #1.
Well do you know why they don't? Because it's an unbelievable amount of work and effort.
@@chadspro exactly, hence why what he said still stands
@@chadsprono
Not sure if you’ve ever watched “That Chapter”. But it’s a good watch as well! Mike is great
@@NORTAH85 "That Chapter" what is that?
LMAO the fact that they thought they were just gonna be in jail for a few days is killing me. No you're not
Thanks for publishing that. People could learn so much from it.
the “i’m proud of my boyscout” bumper sticker is so eerie……
How
it implies his mom put it on there referring to him, and he yk, offed her
@@Top10Dylan because her Boy Scout ended her life
My scouting involved lighter, paper towels, pocket knife, can opener, V8, sardines, Ritz crackers and such. This kid.. "just the standard duct tape, gloves, lye, shovel, zip ties, chainsaw, bags, barrels and cement"...
@@ehelibuff73v8?
I bet there was a lot of rage inside of the Detective and wanting lash out at this Kid. Mad respect for staying mature and professional about the situation
Those poor detectives really need a long vacation after this interviews so disgusting.
I was definitely feeling rage after the confession
@@dondrake100 The "Whatever" (especially them) along with others had me getting extremely angry
Well if he loses his cool it can throw the whole confession into jeopardy.
I said the exact same thing. I had to walk away a few times because I was so upset at the kid's reaction to this whole thing. And again when the other kids were like "Oh no, I'm fired." Damn straight you're getting fired. And losing everything else, too.
Great Detectives! -First class! When a mom is affraid of her son, BIG RED FLAG!
Kids thinking they are smarter than trained adults.....but his confession, I wasn't ready for that!😮 how evil
Teenagers thinking they could fool seasoned detectives is well beyond my understanding.. 🤦🏻♀️
anyone could do it, turns out. we pretend thats not true.. but its true. detectives are not geniuses. they are cops.
Even I knew he was lying thru his teeth with how nervous he was. Very different from his friends
All teenagers think they can out smart adults. Lack of life experience.
It's not just teenagers; it's pretty common overall. We in the psych field call it The Dunning-Kruger Effect. It s common for people to think they know more than doctors, lawyers, etc.
@@Hap_Shaughessy True that teenagers are usually over confident in themselves. But it's an intelligence thing. I was outsmarting and fooling adults from the age of 10. Got away with EVERYTHING. Burgled my own school multiple times, got "set up" by a girl for drug dealing and also got away with that and turned it around on her, and SHE got expelled not me. I'm not proud of course. But I never hurt anyone.
"i should get a grammy for that acting i did!" oh hes really dumb lmao
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I feel bad for the sponsor... You're called in to console someone who is probably like a son to you and you have to hear this entire story unfold. And, while I'm sure the truth would have come out eventually, it was the sponsor pressing this kid on his bruises that really helped speed this case along.
49:52 "while i had, had some drinks that doesnt mean i was drunk driving"... pretty much saying "i was drunk and i did drive, but that doesnt mean i was driving drunk"
I think the most disturbing part is that even after he's confessed to murder he still tries to work a spin to present himself as a sympathetic victim, but he lacks any indication of being emotionally distraught and driven to the 'temporary insanity' that he's trying to pretend he had. Like the gravity of what he did never weighs on him; he's just constantly thinking only of himself and how to minimize the damage he's going to face. It's chilling.
Every normal being is thinking only about himself. If somebody tells you he is not - he is either lie or he was having low education to understand how brain function.
He doesn't even do that, he's literally bragging about it, incriminating himself even further
I can sometimes sympathize a little with an individual that murders a parent, partner, etc. out of fear from being harmed, abused, or while in the process of being attacked. *HOWEVER* I personally don't believe Greg's allegations regarding his Mother and even if it were true he's not a little dude. He could've used proportional force to get away or at any time could've sought help. In my opinion he got off way too light. The tax payers are going to be footing the bill for keeping him incarcerated which is expensive. In California it costs $106,000 a year per inmate which is on the higher end and different in each state but it's not cheap anywhere. Prison is no where near as horrible as the average person thinks or is lead to believe. I've done close to 4 years altogether and I've never had an issue inside. I'm by no means some type of Billy Bad Azz, I'm 5'8, 195 lbs, white, and have long hair; not exactly what you would consider intimidating. Despite that I've never had a problem getting on the phone never been extorted, been a target, or any of the horrible things you hear about happening in prison. Not saying it doesn't happen, there are definitely evil individuals behind bars that target the weak but for the most part doing time is a cake walk as long as you don't go out looking for trouble, don't have an X in the box (term for PDFile), or get involved in high risk activities like drugs or gangs. Hell, I didn't even join a prison gang until my last stint when I was in my early 30's so for most of my time I didn't even have backup. To be honest I wish I had never joined but most of my friends from the streets as well as guys I rolled with inside were DMI. They had been trying to recruit me for years but I was never interested. I don't even have a good answer as to why I finally said yes besides boredom and curiosity. Sorry for being long winded but the point is prison is not that horrible and a joke of a punishment. The fact Greg and others get to live in relative comfort on tax payer dollars isn't fair.
This shit is totally scripted and not real!
@@HuwhyteMany'all got no access to any kind of techbology in prison right (e.g. no phone, laptop, wifi access)
The fact he admitted to it so calmy is terrifying The two friends joking and acting up is so crazy and upsetting
Like attracts like. We human beings tend to hang with other people who have similar behavior/character traits.
weird@@DragonballZTime
Not weird at all. They must be just as screwed up as their fellow murder friend. These types of guys are most likely to end up on drugs or in jail.@@Starscream8896
and talking about "decomposing body" and trying to get the ring from her finger, wtf
Let's hear it for single mothers raising well adjusted boys.
I find the fact that most of these teen killers likely wouldn't get caught if they just asked for a lawyer kinda chilling.
Love watching this and listening to all the clues of deception! Great channel!
THANK YOU FOR THE SUBTITLES. i know it takes a lot of effort, hard work and time to include subtitles in each video. Please continue doing it! They really help me and other non native english speakers as well as people who have a hearing disability. Thank you once again EWU!! You are the best !!
Your whole page is kissing people’s asses for putting subtitles
@@Mwash14721 I mean you aren’t wrong buttt still a little rude for him just thanking him cause he doesn’t understand teenageish
@@Mwash14721nvm he said “UWU” well he said “EWU” but I know what he meant soooo I’m on your side now”
@@ThePumpkinMan. if it really bothers you then delete my comment, I’m personally part deaf myself and you don’t see me getting down on both knees and wasting time sucking everyone’s dick over subtitles, it’s just cringe and looks like a pathetic attempt at getting attention, it’s like showing someone the same cut/bruise over and over, you can only fish for attention/compliments with it so much before someone eventually says shut up about it.
@@ThePumpkinMan. lmao, I just Noticed the uwu now that you said it
As someone on the spectrum and therefore has a lot of awkward mannerisms and speech patterns, I’ve always been low-key scared of being accused of something and having my words and actions hyper-analyzed like this during an interrogation.
This is the sort of comment I've been looking for xD cause all these videos I hate that it mentions things I do all time in normal conversations where I haven't done anything wrong
Honestly? You should always ask for a lawyer regardless. It might hinder the investigation a bit, but it's not something you want to play around with when it's your freedom on the line.
agreed. This is the comment I've been searching for lol. They're flagging this kid for folding his legs weird and doing self soothing movements. I sit like that 90% of the time and never stop looping my hand thru my hair unless I am actively working on something. Like sure he is absolutely 100% guilty but if I was put in his position I'd probably have half the same mannerisms he has.
The problem isn’t the mannerisms in of themselves, it’s that combined with the avalanche of evidence stacked against him and his constant lies that contextualizes his behavior as undeniably guilty. In the absence of evidence, this behavior is very easy to dismiss as natural anxiety given the context.
Oh my gosh! I just made a comment on this too! So glad I am not alone. Like I'm petrified now because I don't want to be called guilty all because my brain forces me to explain everything...
If I was being interrogated they’d think I’m a killer because I have adhd and I’m always like “uhmmmmm idk bro.” I talk like an adult sometimes, and I’d be repeating what they said or asking them to repeat for me 😭
Same
Now tell me this? How on earth does a child think like this? I mean, how does a child do this to a mother... The worst part is he was so remorseless!!! Do we not have an answer in 2024? Brain disruption? Chemical Imbalance? Can we not detect or find these issues and treat them before it takes hold of them and make them a monster!! This is very scary
Its like child soldiers…they can be subjected to be numb to this. Im not a scientist but my two cents is the games he plays..too much violence from games and bad influence from friends. Heck his friend even said he didnt feel anything when he admitted to them he killed his mom.
I wish we could sometimes see an interrogation with someone who actually IS innocent. Just to see the contrast :)
There is , you want the link ?
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I can't imagine what was going through the mind of Gregory's sponsors just sitting across the room looking at this kid who he thought he knew, thinking that he was there to help encourage and defend him and slowly watching him and realizing that he was a murderer.
I couldn't stop thinking about this! I am also very curious about who he 's texting. Assuming the school... but 👀
I was thinking that along with the fact that this kid could've become a cop if this hadn't occurred.
@@kiki-acabmost do.
I get the feeling he knew early on
when he remained adamant in wanting the name of the "friend he fought", while he kept on trying to wiggle out of answering was big from the start, the kid is obviously hiding something@@autumnbluehue
I swear it is a complete art form the way these guys question people it is so fun to hear
Jesus fucking Christ. He was PROUD. He thought this was all a fucking game or a movie. He was showing off.
I can't imagine how these cops did this interrogation. Imagine being face to face with such a remorseless killer who strangled his mom twice. He could have stopped by nope was like I need to finish this. This kid is such a danger to society
He is a textbook intractable sociopath. You cannot change them. Ever.
My question, there is Dad. 😮 This is too common a trope now a day. Single mother, no dad around, not really if at all, and kids end up half baked if at all really raised, on their merry way to repeat the cycle of distinction. Anyhow... The real danger in society, what is actually been growing for past two decades, is explosive growth of single parent households. Kids out of those, are a total mess, and half the time, a social menace.
He innocent! He ain't hurt nobody!
@theflame5919 the menace in America are all the junkies and drunks having children like rabbits. America is inbreeding because people are having children with siblings they never knew existed. America insists on existing in an altered state of mind with drugs and alcohol and every excuse in the book for why they're not responsible for their actions. Like him.
@@hastyhillfarmand4x480 great. YOU be his roommate and cellie
I can understand someone not telling a teacher or guardian "hey so and so said they killed their mom" because that's such an outlandish thing to even imagine hearing from a fellow teen... but the moment the cops come to your door and say "so and so's mom is missing".. how do you not say "oh my god, he said he killed his mom earlier today! I just didn't believe him". Like why try and make up stories about it? And the fact that they are so nonchalant about it all is creepy as hell.
Maybe he didn't want to get in trouble for not reporting it.
my thoughts exactly :(
I think they had more involvement than they let on. Multiple times he says “we” when confessing
That, and in between all the covering up and everything, why didn't they all agree on a story together? Once the cops arrested them, they each confessed to their part of it, and then even once he was caught, and could've copped to everything, the killer through all of them under the bus too. These guys were some of the worst criminals I've seen (in terms of organization) Like, he hands the guy all his stuff to fake a robbery, but then the guys like "Yea, he gave it all to me the other day"
I don't know. I was an idiot kid too, not a murderer but I can see myself just not thinking like it was serious the claim of murder, also, teens don't just tell things to parents or teachers. What they did WAS bad, and they should be punished, but I can see myself just not seen it as a big deal as a kid and just seen it as "cool, free shit"
The fact he tried to take the wedding ring off her finger to pawn is the most sickening part 😢