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Intel Meteor Lake Comparison Timestamps:
0:00 Meteor Lake CPUs are Here!
0:25 CPU Specs for Intel Core Ultra 7 155H
0:40 Laptops Tested & Power Limits
1:55 Testing Disclaimers
2:15 Cinebench R23 CPU Performance
3:10 New Architecture = Better Battery Life?
3:51 Battery Life Results
4:42 Arc iGPU Performance
4:50 3DMark Time Spy
5:18 Game Test
5:54 But What About AMD Ryzen 8000 Laptops?
6:40 AI Performance & Testing Problems
7:14 Are Intel Meteor Lake Laptops Worth It?
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0:26 Please note the memory with my 155H is actually 32GB LPDDR5-7467 2:21 The LPE cores don't actually help in all core multicore load. They show as "parked" in cinebench, so multicore improvements must come down to IPC improvements, considering the clock speeds of the 155H are lower.
that is kind of unfair since amd only has upto 6400mhz or 5600mhz in most gaming laptops would you also like to compare it with gpd win max 2 it has 7500mhz
what was the 780m on
The arc graphics are insane Going to buy 14th gen as soon as possible xD
@@user-ft3by4sc2q That's amd's problem.
@@warriorsfg They are an incredible step up over previous intel iGPU but I am not convinced they are much better than the 780M, we would need testing at different power limits and with more games. Wait for further reviews of gaming benchmarks
I did not expect Arc to beat the 780M in terms of GPU performance, and with driver updates I would expect the performance gap to increase further.
You mean decrease? Wait, what are you talking? Arc already beat the 780M.
Other channels have shown that 780M performance is _really_ depending on memory speed. I expect the same is true for ARC. And this laptop had quite fast RAM, so I think that's what made the difference.
they barely got even, new apus support way higher ddr5 speeds, 780m will be untouchable with new ram
@@perekman3570 But it's AMD's fault itself not providing higher memory speeds. Anyways, the fact that Intel's IGPUs come even close, rather beat them of AMD's is an absolute win.
@@TuxikCE It does allow for more memory speed, the GPD portables usually uses 7500MTs
AMD: Makes confusing CPU names Intel: *Hold my beer.*
Core Truths
Confusing only for low iq people like you. At least Intel Core Ultra is really new arc unlike Amd milking fanboy like you with fraud refresh arc but with new name.
@@12100FSnake oil!
i7-1165G7. intel Core 2 Duo.
confusing this gen but going forward its just 3 digits anyway, not sure why people get triggered about 'Core i' branding gone, who cares
The iGPU improvement is exciting, though I wonder how much power it consumes. Maybe the lack of battery life improvement is exactly due to higher iGPU power draw? Then it's possible it would improve with driver updates.
The lack of battery improvement is due to the chiplet design, the interconnect wastes energy. In theory both the main CPU tile and GPU tile should shot off when you are only watching youtube but apparently that's not the case.
if they still had undervolting available it could be made even more power efficient. But Intel started locking it since 10-th gen. Thanks, Intel.
yeah besides the hx ones or whatever altho idk what the equavilent of "HX" is this time around@@tabalugadragon3555
It has 28W limit for the entire chip
@@lharsay It's not the same kind of interconnect AMD uses so it's not going to use the same amount of energy. It should use less energy than AMD's Infinity Fabric which not ONLY requires the transmission of data from one die to another, but on the IOD is the main multiplexer for the Infinity Fabric which is constantly using power. My understanding of Intel's MCM is tiles are pushed next to each other and there are direct connects between the tiles. Direct connects means power consumption during data transfers, but not a constant power draw to the degree a multiplexer would have. To see what's happening you'd need to either own the laptop or wait for a thorough review where a person can give a lot more details and actually look at what cores are being used under what workloads. Also, the Windows thread scheduler might not be completely ready even though it's good enough for a laptop to release. So it's way too early to say how this is going to work out until a lot more detailed info is released.
These new iGPUS are crazy compared to Iris Xe! This will be great for budget laptops in the future
Here I am still with a 8th i3 with uhd 620 for gaming
The cheaper U series will get 50% cut down GPU cores, last gen didn't cut down the GPU cores so badly for the budget models. The i3 1215U sill had 64EU iGPU while the largest one in the top i7 and i9 models had 96EU.
Let's see the performance with the stock 6400MT/s RAM in the retail units. Reviewers got pre-production units with much faster RAM (around 7500Mt/s), that's not what you're going to get in the store.
@@lharsaycan I overclock my intel iris xe 80eu to perform better if not like intel arc
the problem is they need to have the supporting drivers a igpu and even a dedicated gpu is only as good as the drivers they are provided
Wow that iGPU performance is awesome for such a thin and light laptop. Intel now has a beast mode APU which is excellent for most laptop use cases.
Just wait for Lunar lake.., it is going to be yugeee
Props for actually breaking down the Battery Life in Minutes per Battery Wh.
Great video as always! Question: How did you limit the TDP of your Zen 14Xs to only 28 watts???
Super interesting benchmarks on pre-release. Would be curious if new drivers come out as well as Arc seems to keep getting great updates.
I like this chip for handhelds, but I really need to see those lower TDP values before getting too excited. Seeing how it performs at 10-15W will mean a lot
Ya, Intel is almost there for handheld fight. I still think amd will knock them out with whatever custom chip they make for the next steam deck again though. Valve clearly won. The last chip literally wasted 15% of the die for the VR set supposedly(if I understand correctly). Steam deck oled basically sealed the deal (supposedly removed the VR wasted section if I understand correctly too). Unless you want to spend more on a niche handheld (I like the mini oled handheld, I'd probably still spend to get that) steam deck is way too far ahead now.
the difference in the naming system now finally make my i7 gen 11 feels really old
*cries in i7 8700k*
8700k still a chad cpu, 14th desktop gen is not a big deal to upgrade @@BarskiPatzow
Cries in 10th gen
Hi Jarrod, your channel has been my top 3, if not the first one when I want to see comparison and benchmarking of every new product, but one thing that I would like to suggest, every time you calculate a graph that shown in minute, like on battery life, it is easier to imagine how long it last if the graph was shown in 9 hours and 30 mins instead of 570mins. many other KZheadr I saw already did that. keep up the good stuff!.
Thanks! It's more of an Excel issue than anything. I haven't been able to get it to display in graphs correctly using hours and minutes.
@@JarrodsTech I see, its actually pretty easy to make, if you get the result in Minutes in Excel, let's say its in column A1, just divide the A1 with 60/24. so, (=A1/60/24). then format the cell with custom [H] :mm format. hope this help. :))
Hi Jarrod . Can not wait for your CES 2024 videos
Keep up the good work man thank you so much
Hey jarrod, really love your work and what you do for gaming laptops. I have a question. I want to buy the asus tuf f15 with the core i7-12700h and rtx 4070 8gb dedicated graphics with 16gb ram and 1tb nvme ssd. I got a good deal on it but the screen brightness at max is 275 nits. Is that a concern? The screen refresh hz is 144hz too.
Any comment on fan noise with these new chips? Many users are fine with the performance of the current chips, just not liking the battery life and fan noise. Do these new chips activate fans less?
This kind of architecture should work very well on my workflow. My laptops are on 24/7 and much of that time are available for remote control + 2 open browsers, so basically very low usage. If the ultra low power cores are up to that, the efficiency should be crazy good and no heat at all.
Jarrod, NPU are highly likely DSP that for decades process images and sound find some robotics vision, drone vision typically integrated in FPGA's + ARM or MIPS; also relied for targeting in smart bombs, sounding as in petroleum field reconnaissance, other sound I am fairly certain they are just DSPs so said Neural that is more than LLM identifying every next word and much more than sight and sound stringing complex frameworks together to deliver some result. mb
Core ultra series and arc graphics are a considerable option for gaming they should perform way better in daily tasks which is their main goal and should be slightly better at rendering when compared to other laptops. But if one really wants a good meteor lake for gaming in a laptop, then they should wait for i9 14900HX laptops.
Hey Jarrod, Question? How comes you don't review the Medion Eraser Gaming Laptop lineup? The offer some killer specs!!!! Do they not sell them in Aus? Love your videos😊
would love to see a video on laptop storage management
Wow, they were not kidding about the improved igpu! I'm guessing the graphics will end up absorbing most of the energy efficiency gains. The U series will probably have crazy battery life gains over the higher power h series.
Would be great if you have an energy efficiency graph or Performance vs. Watt plot for these chips.
Couldn’t change the lower so didn’t bother here, I’ll save it for when I can compare properly
The performance test was at the same 28W.. what more do you want...
Hey Jarrod, have you ever used any windows laptop that feels as good to use an m1 mac air? Like the keyboard and trackpad, i am looking for the most comfortable to use meteor lake laptop when they are released.
Bro how little time did you have to test this machine? Only 3DMark and Shadow of the Tomb Raider as GPU tests? And you couldn’t even download the new Geekbench ML test for AI/ NPU workloads?
Спасибо огромное за обзор !!!! Очень круто.
ty for the tests. i will be honest, was a bit disappointment to see only 1 game tested on the new GPU, but i bet u will have way more sooner or later.
2:15 This is quite weird or interesting. Based on your previous videos (power scaling) at 40W, 12700H scored 12494 while 13700H scored 12230 (I didn't swap these up). Meanwhile in this video, at 28W it seems 13700H much better. I suspect new Intel 7 Ultra node fixed the Intel 7 bad at low power scaling, at higher power both basically the same. Unlike Raptor Lake-S (and HX) desktop, the Raptor Lake-H only node difference, no changes in L2 or L3 cache at same core configuration. Edit: Something went wrong with these videos, i7-12700H at 28W only scored 8693 while your previous videos (power scaling) i7-12700H at 25W scored 9190 and at 30W scored 10473. I hope you read this and double scheck the score or explain what happened.
There is nothing to double-check and there is no need to explain something - that video is sponsored by Intel, I guess. So Intel wants to show us, that the new generation is better. How to make that? Easy: just lower a benchmark score for the previous generation (and AMD's as well).
@@riki_tiki_ti tin foil much?
@@riki_tiki_ti What weird and lonely life you live. Just go to the woods and stay there with your tin foil hat.
You can't really fairly compare the results between videos, but regardless I can't explain it, the results are what they are and are accurate. My best guess is it's a mixture of silicon lottery / power curve varying between laptops / despite a similar power limit set in software perhaps there is something to one laptop being thick with a massive power brick and the other being the opposite. The differences you're noting are small and in my opinion don't matter at the end of the day.
@@riki_tiki_ti Any benchmarking result difference is common and have reasons behind it, I believe nothing faked here. Whoever the sponsors is, it won't affect the results especially from credible reviewer including this channel and many others like HUB/GN/etc.
As someone who has covered intel arc desktop GPUs, i had faith than intel could adapt that tech to their new laptop GPUs. FINALLY getting some iGPU competition form Intel. Also great video as always Captain Jarrod 👌
I just read the comparison on the Phoronix website and was looking for a similar comparison on windows platform. So, when are we gonna get a proper benchmark comparison on this?
Just coming in to say THANKS! I picked up one of the core ultra 7 MSI laptops and after mucking around with it for a few hours, realized it absolutely did not serve my needs. HOWEVER, using your gaming laptop deals page, I was able to find an amazing ASUS ROG Zephyrus with a 4070 in it for the exact same price as the MSI that disappointed me. I'll be returning the MSI and sticking with the ASUS. Great info, and great links to great resources. Thanks!
Jarrod. Waiting forna deep latency review from this new intel cpus. I am afraid that for real time audio will be very painfull to get an stable streaming.
It's weird that the Core 7 Ultra feels like a successor to the Intel P series rather than a new H series processor even though it's names is the same as the H series moniker. I hope Intel would have better naming scheme than this. Still if this is the performance of the Core Ultra parts, I hope they have better improvements for the standard 14th gen H parts. It feels out of place somehow seeing how good the 28W parts are but not the 45W-55W parts as the increase in performance is negligible.
very informative. jarrod is the best
2:28 I severely doubt 2 cores that are even slower than regular e cores would provide a 13.5% performance improvement over the 13700h. And in fact unless I'm remembering wrong the LPE cores shouldn't even be doing anything in Cinebench, they're firmly for background task type things and should never get involved in heavy lifting. This improvement likely mainly comes from improvements to the P cores and E cores rather than anything else.
I'm pretty sure the improvements are from the E-cores
@@12100F Given how the single-thread performance is actually worse than 12th gen, I agree.
I dont think those E cores are even active during benchmarking. Those are Low power cores
Thinking of getting this one for my wifey, with 155H/32GB/1TB, 2.8K OLED being the key here as she is into photography and some video editing. Myself I got the EliteBook 835 G10 7840U/32GB/2TB Samsung 990 Pro with FHD which is sufficient for me, but business class matters more, running Opensuse Tumbleweed (linux).
Not really apples to apples, considering the lenovo has DDR5 5600 vs LPDDR5x-7467 thats a lot of extra bandwidth, im guessing if the 780m had that extra bandwidth it would close that 8% gap and beat it in the game.
Finally good to see some competition in the LP ultrabook market
This makes me wonder if we start seeing arrow lake hit desktops with the same type of cpu design will we see the same small increase in cpu performance as here but a big leap in igpu performance, which to me isn't as important in a desktop since I'll always run a dedicated gpu
This improvement in integrated graphics potentially means students who also game a little bit won’t have to choose a gaming laptop with dedicated gpu and can just use a notebook that will decently run a few games
Yeah thats basically what laptops should be aiming for in tech. More thinner and powerful. Legion has been doing decent with slims, ofc u have the zephyrus and blade but those are still gaming laptops. We need a macbook but windows + gaming that would be the dream!
Will Meteor Lake laptops come with RTX40 graphics later, or is it only for integrated graphics only?
hey jarrod have you had any issues with a laptop holding charge while plugged in? i have the razor 18 4090 and when i game for hours i notice my battery drop percentage from 100% to 30% after hours of gaming is that normal while being plugged in?
As someone who's usually on top of tech, even I'm getting confused with all the new cpus, I gpu capabilities etc, and which ones are for desktops, laptops, handhelds/mini pcs etc.
Hey Jarrod, I've been looking for a big 17" Laptop with good speakers to act as a thin client to stream games from my actual PC, it doesn't actually need gaming specs itself. Is there anything you can recommend?
how these chips will compete with ryzen HS and HX series ?
Hey, I am in desperate search of videos that are about the Dell G15 Special Edition, it has a Intel Core i9 and an RTX3070ti. You would be very helpful if you could make a video about that laptop. Thanks
@Jarrod, during continious load, was the Asus Zenbook only limited to 28W or it was going higher? Some of the other reviewers mentioned that it was settling down to around 32-33W.
I think he probably didn't double-check the package power readings, also here i7-12700H and i7-13700H Cinebench scores quite suspiciously weird compared to his other videos (I made a comment recently).
As I say, I could not use software to limit it, so technically PL2 for a few seconds was at play with the 155H, boosting to 50W+ and thermal throttling for a short period of time. It deifnitely sustained at 28W after that short boost, though. These sorts of things should not really matter given the Cinebench test runs for 10 mins.
Hi Jarrod, I currently have MSI GS65 Stealth Thin with the following specs: CPU: Intel Core i7-9750H GPU: GeForce RTX 2070 8GB MaxQ RAM 32 GB DDR4 Display: Full HD IPS 240hz My main use case if Fortnite, Flight Simulator, GTA V, hopefully GTA VI, and occasional Video/photo editing. I was thinking of Getting Lenovo Legion Pro 7i with the 4090 or 4080. I have 2 questions: 1) Is it worth getting 4090 model for $2,699 from B&H or stick with 4080 for $2,179 at B&H? 2) Will I see a drastic performance improvement over my current laptop or it is not worth buying all together,considering my current laptop? Thank You for the content and for your deals website!
Please compare these Views Ultra processors with Ryzen 8000 series processors with CPU, GPU, NPU performance and efficiency.
Is the Aorus 15 BSF good???
I was waiting for this
Can you review the acer swift x 14, i7 13th H with rtx 4050. I think it's a very good budget laptop for casual gaming.
Please compare AMD’s 8000 laptops & Intel’s MTL when they become available for purchase in terms of price to performance. Thanks in advance.
Meteor Lake changed the thread director algorithm to use E-cores a lot more aggressively. If you didn't force your CPU to use the P-core, it might have started benchmarks on the E-core for a while before switching over to the more powerful cores.
Yup, people would definitely buy a $2000 MTL laptop to watch KZhead only, won’t even touch the keyboard or mouse. Right?
@@sagnaik They won't be doubling iGPU without also adding DDR5 lanes just like Apple was forced to do.
@@sagnaik I think HBM is the future, but it costs several times more than normal RAM. Economies of scale could reduce that a bit, but I think it'll always be more expensive to implement. While Apple could get away with those costs with their hyper-expensive RAM upgrades, other companies can't.
@@sagnaik I agree completely, but the average consumer isn't willing to pay the extra cost. Because of AI chips, HBM3 is running 5x the cost (or more) of DDR5. 32GB chips of your slowest no-name DDR5 RAM is about $80 meaning 32GB of HBM would be roughly $400. Even wholesale means a $300-600 increase in parts cost for 32 and 64gb variants. Imagine marking up a Blade 14 by $400 or even $800 over current prices. That's not accounting for the additional substrate costs. There's a reason AMD switched from HBM to DDR6 even though the penalty was quite severe. People weren't willing to eat the markup.
I talk about this in the video, but I mean watching a video isn’t an intense workload that should need P cores?
Can you do a video comparing the 7900m vs 4090 mobile?
Do you think it can be compatible with AirJet soon ?
Hello jarrod, i have a question, i have a gaming laptop that has adaptive sync in its screen, but unfortunately i dont have mux switch or optimus, will i have more fps if i buy a monitor with adaptive sync?
How is the heat development? Is meteor lake cooler/more quiet?
need to recap the video also for myself, if actual watts were mentioned
Hey Jarrod, do you have a graph with average framerates of all laptops you`ve tested? Im looking to buy between weakest Acer/LOQ (4050) or something 30-40% faster (should I look into 30 series?)
I'm not Jarrod idk the frame rates but look somewhere on KZhead and the loq is better all the time so buy the loq and if you are in america you can try to look for 4060 laptop or 3070 or 3060 the 4060 and 3060 runs about the same but the 3070 would be best because it runs a lot faster.
at this point amd is just needed to introduce efficiency cores in there newer series and intel a lower fabrication process
I cant wait to see meteor lake gaming handhelds
Will there be any significant improvements in FPS in games with dedicated graphics cards? Like if they add these CPUs to a laptop with an RTX 4060, for example. Will it be worthwhile or should a previous generation suffice?
Why would there be any improvement? These are low-powered chips that only match the single thread performance of existing cpus. So no one bottlenecks.
perhaps without a mux switch, but definitely not with a mux switch
With dedicated GPUs there will rarely be a difference, as usually the GPU is the limiting factor. And the CPU part of Meteor Lake delivers very similar performance.
Won't be any change until 50 series GPU's, buying now or next year won't matter. Either wait a year and a half for 50 series or buy now on discount.
@@Winnetou17 laptops usually send GPU through iGPU
So much excited!
I didn't catch it in the video. Do the ARC iGPU have AV1 hw encoding and decoding?
They do both AV1 encoding and decoding
ppl say the LPE are only for background tasks, so if you open a browser or open a pdf its done by the P Cores. is that right?
Does that laptop (CPU/Chipset) support Thunderbolt 5?
Hey bro, can you review the msi sword 15 pls
Meteor lake is for thin laptops Intel already said, you won't find any gaming beasts with it cause performance is actually worse.
i know it won't probably get answer but hi recently i bought asus rog strix g16 (rtx 4060 fhd 144hz display) and there's deal with same price on asus tuf a15(ryzen 9 rtx 4070 qhd 165hz display) the tuf has one less fan and im not sure does it worths refund and taking 4070 and qhd over build quality of strix any thoughts?
Good video, thank you.
Is ryzen 7 6800h and rtx 3070ti future proof for 1080p(mid to high strtings) ???
How do you limit the power on 13th gen series?
Thank you for being one of the only people to point out that to compare apples to apples you have to put them all at the same 28W setting. Everyone is screaming at how underpowered the 155H is, but it sounds like it's doing mostly as good or slightly better than a 13700H for 62% power.
Where exactly are you get 62% from. In your “apples to apples” testing. Playback per watt hour was the same if not opposite to what you are claiming?
I think Dave2D should actually take notes from you when he is talking about laptops! I learned more from your video than any out there ;) Big Kudos!
Any word on new nVidia GPUs? 4060ti, etc?
Think people are looking at the 155H and 13700H battery life chart the wrong way. While they practically had the same battery life when accounting for the new larger battery, this test was with them both at 28W. So then go back to the R23 test, the 155H is 13.5% better in multi-core than at 13700H at the same 28W. Ideally there would've been a larger performance gain than that, but the efficiency improvement *is* definitely there. Those LP-E cores aren't being used in Cinebench to my understanding
They shouldn't be used, but I don't think Jarrod would be misleading us. there is allegedly a way to force them to take part in some apps, but normally, they should be only for very light workloads.
But there were no performance gains at the restricted wattage on all three laptops, so where exactly is the improvement if you perform a scientific test like this. Remember, ASUS increases the battery size to tease better efficiency, but the reality is smoke and mirrors.
@@andyH_England How can you say there are no performances gains at the restricted wattage? The 155H scores 13% in higher in multicore when each laptop is restricted to 28W. So there is obviously a performance per watt improvement happening somewhere. To get a similar score on the older chips, you'd need to increase the wattage and therefore decrease battery life from what was shown here
@@beemerss isn't the 14th gen using two extra cores to achieve the extra performance in multi-core?
@@andyH_England To my understanding of what Intel has said previously about the LP-E cores, they are only used in low power states like running the display and 1080p video playback. The LP-E cores are housed on the SoC tile and used when the compute tile (where all the other cores are) is turned off to save battery. That's why I said in my original comment that I don't think the LP-E cores are being used in Cinebench
Hey which one asus f15 or predator helios neo 16?
Guys i need some help please Between the TUF a15 , lenovo loq 15 and the msi katana 17 which is best ? All of them has rtx 4060 max tgp Both katana and loq have i7 13620H ( ram speed 5200mhz). As for the TUF it's a ryzen7 7735hs ( ram speed 4800h mhz) All 1080p screen 144Hz
8/10 review. Would have been 10/10 with In Flames or Katatonia shirt.
Hi i need help choosing proper cpu and gpu combo for buying new gaming laptop to avoid bottlenecking Can you please give me gpu combos for i7-12700h processor for a FHD and 1440p display Also can you please separate gpu intensive and cpu intensive combos for me
I'd really like to see the difference between the new intel and new/old ryzen in terms of battery life maybe this year intel laptops finally get on top of the 2024 battery laptops? one man can dream
Hello! I wanted to ask for advice on choosing a laptop, the problem is that one of the options is not presented in the reviews. We are talking about asus tuf gaming f17 FX707VV (13900H and 4060), and the second option is the classic legion 5 pro with 6800H and 3060. The prices are approximately the same: $1200 versus $1150. I also suddenly came across a third option: ASUS ROG Strix G513 R7 6800H/RTX3060 for +- 900-1000$ The priority is the size and color rendering quality of the display, as well as relevance for playing modern heavy single-player titles at high settings, and of course you want it to be reliable 2023 years' TUF specs looks tastier than Lega for the same price, but tuf 22 years old laptops were problematic, it’s unclear how things are now: I haven’t found a review of this model, just a few reviews.
Asus tuf looks better because the processor is like 50% and more stronger so it looks good but I don't know about thermals of this laptop a lot but if it would run around 80-90 degrees it could be the best choice but don't buy it if it runs more than 90 degrees. Legion and the rog would be better choice if we are talking about thermals but the performance of the laptop compared to the tuf would be a lot slower.
Which pc is better legion slim 5 amd 5 procesor or legion pro 5i intel core5 ?
Hey would you know why my gaming laptop has very low cpu and gpu usage (around 25) while playing any game with my fps also being bad for example 90 fps in fortnite with highish settings. I have a i7 11800 cpu, 3060 gpu, and 16 gigabytes of ram with the fans being on max always.
what's the point in power limiting? if the power is there, use it :P
He did not power limit the new Gen 14; he only limited the older-gen devices so that we could see the real improvement, or not, rather than being fooled by smoke and mirrors.
4:30 nice Batery
Is that a Kalmah tee!? Best, most consistent metal band out there - I think you earned a lifetime sub 🤘 Tell me you were in NYC for their first US tour a few years back!
Hah nope. I'm in Australia, so it's not easy to get to NYC.
Hope they've been or can make it down under, then! and thanks for all the advice over the years @@JarrodsTech
What do you do with all the laptops you review? Do you just return them? If not maybe do a contest on here to give them to your subs. Ive been saving for a legion pro 7i since you reviewed it. Medical bills came up snd they took the savings. So having a chance to win something would be awesome. Im sure other fans would appreciate it too. Just a thought. Merry xmas and hapy holidays. Thanks for all the videos.
The majority of them are review units and they go back to the brands.
@@JarrodsTech I always pictured channels like yours with just a hundred or more laptops stacked all over your house. Lol. I didn't know brands did that. I thought they let the reviewer keep their product
I just noticed the KALMAH tshirt! Hi Swamphead!
I kinda want to watch the comparison between 155h and 1260p/1270p/1370p. 12700H has more cores/threads than 1270p, so I assume 12700 is still the better one even in low wattage.
Anyone could tell me their experience with Asus Rog M16 2023 in the US from Best Buy? I bought one during black friday and after a couple weeks it just turned off on it's own while plugged one day and I cannot turn it on anymore both plugged and unplugged. I read a few reddit posts about people having similar issues even after replacing the laptops but no solution. One person faced the same issue on 5 replacements back to back before returning them for good. Is it a thing for the M16 2023? I could ask for replacement but if it just keeps doing that with every replaced model then there is no point.
Well it's good for customers that intel is catching up in terms on iGPUs and energy efficiency. More competition is always better! 🎉 Too sad AMD 8000 is just a refresh though. But I guess for gaming handhelds it comes down to the drivers 😬
Is AMD 8000 in shops already, as you write "is"... or is it coming? Intel i99 955 moon gold destroyed AMD 8000. I prefer to keep speech in products available for purchasing.
@@OxMilky it is not in shops yet...
How come no one has the 185H laptop?
I still don't understand the position of these chips in the lineup. Are these replacing the former H chips? Or the U variants? Or are they a middle ground between the two? Will there be a Legion 5 with Core Ultra 7 155H next year, for example?
It's a change of the lineup all together. If anything, former H class is dead. New H class replaced P. There's only 1 SKU that'll be H-45, which is the 185H.
If I am not wrong, Intel plans to continue the HX lineup into the 14th gen with refreshes - similar to the desktop 14th gen. The new Core series replaces the H series though
They are replacing the H and P series. The Alder Lake-N series (0P+8E cores) Raptor Lake-U series (2P+8E cores) and the Raptor Lake-HX series (8P+16E cores) are here to stay for one more year.
P-series is meant for being right between U and H.
Video editing benchmark pls 😢
Hi jarrod i really need a help to decide which laptop i go with: 1- asus tuf a16 advantage edition R7 7735hs, RX 7600s, 165hz screen 2- asus tuf a15(2022) R7 6800h , rtx3070 , 144hz screen They both with the same price in my rigion and I'm wondering which one i pic. Does the screen of a16 that better of the a15 Or should i choose the better performance of the a15 Please give me some help I'm a student and i need it for gaming video editing, movies.. Which one suit me.
Would prefer the 2nd because (if you play on it) the 3070 is significantly better and I don't think the CPU has much of a difference. Hope I could help you.
Hey Jarrod! I have a question. Lenovo legion 5i pro (2022) Specs: i7 12700h rtx 3050 ti 2560x1440p or asus tuf a16 (2023) Specs: r7 7735hs rx7600s 1920x1080p what do you think which one is worth the money? They have same price!
Pls help
The all new disgn revolution cpu is now 20% faster in multicore and a few % weaker in singlethread? This means that without power limits, a rpl p-Core has more performance than a mtl p-Core? How is this not disappointing?
yes raptor lake is faster when not limited to 28W
The improvement in the CPU is not what you would expect from a generational change in architecture. The CPU single-core is lower than the 2-y-o 12-Gen, and the multicore reflects more cores/threads. Imagine the flack Apple would get if they released a new-gen M3 chip with lower single-core benchmarks than the M1! They would get blasted!
please review ultra 5 125h!
I feel like by the time gta 6 comes out to pc, the 60 series rtx will come out or at least be revealed.. we are getting a 50 series release in 2025 tho?
Yes Q1 2025 at the earliest