Trail Damage | Jeep Wrangler vs VW Touareg See Which One We Break First!
2019 ж. 6 Қыр.
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( www.TFLcar.com ) You may think a brand new Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and an old Volkswagen Touareg may be completely different on paper, but are they equally capable off-road? Roman and Tommy take these two SUVs over Red Cone Pass in Colorado to find out.
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Excellent video...thanks for bringing out the car..I was Super impressed by what it can do..Thanks Roman..Thanks Tommy...you guys went above n beyond on this video..Awesome stuff.
Thanks for the kind comments. This video was a great team effort. The videographers and editors knocked it out of the ballpark!
@@TFLcar Loved the introduction graphics.
@@TFLcar Rocio durcal
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Forget about Touareg crossover shape, underneath it is a true off-road beast! Nice video
That Tuareg is living it's best best life
Roman you keep praising the jeep,but I'm more impressed with the Volkswagen
Yeah BECAUSE of the age of the VW AND it was'nt as purpose built as the Jeep but it was pretty much as capable although not as easily capable. But for the age and the freakin' price.. the VW WINS IMO. NOW.. We need to get the BRAND NEW EURO TOUAREG over to the U.S> www.volkswagen.de/de/modelle-und-konfigurator/touareg.html?modelId=CR745J%24GYOYYOY&modelYear=2020&modelVersion=1&exteriorId=F14+0Q0Q&interiorId=F56+++++VM
Yeah, was curious if they received some sponsorship from dodge as ‘influencers’. Prior videos more or less praise the VWs performance for what it is... I definitely can not see myself spending $40k+ on a Jeep Wrangler/ Rubicon. Recently, I saw a Rubicon truck at the dealership for $67k.. I would not spend that much on something to beat the shit out of it.
Same here lol
@@Qp0int buy a used side by side, you won't be disappointed...
iff you stop with VW on EVERY 10 cm on this road, .............it was not profesional sory, and not fair.
Time for a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk vs Volkswagen Touareg video!!!!
Chris Barr that would be an awesome video
Chris Barr that would be a bit closer to each other
Thorsten yes definitely, that would so much closer
Ben Bla I think so
Use a Trackhawk just to see if that monster could do it. "Gee Tommy you scratched the paint on a $100,000.00 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk think insurance will cover it?"...LOL!
You guys hit it out of the park with this one. Now please excuse me while I switch to another browser tab and shop for good used Touareg.
I think it's fair to say the Touareg has earned some armor. Also. The engine noise on the Wrangler going downhill was disturbing.
The fan is a bit loud at low speeds, but it's doing a lot of work, it's cooling the turbo, the intercooler, radiator, the etorque battery pack, AC, etc. Having driven one for a few days in 100+ TX heat it never let the coolant levels go above 200F. I wanted to hate the engine because my initial reaction was that the whole system is a bit overdesigned, but it kind of won me over for the period that I had it. I hope it turns out to be a reliable long term engine package.
Big SUVs had big fans. My Ford Explorer also had a big van. Just keep an eye on that coolant temperature.
Sad the engineers thought a 4 cylinder should go in a jeep. Should be a 4 cylinder diesel, and a v6 gas. Not 4 cylinder gas, terrible choice.
@@BobStoneBoi At 12k feet, you'll appreciate the turbo...power doesn't fall off the way a NA engine does.
@@angelgjr1999 wouldn't a big fan going slower be quieter than a small fan moving faster
The Wrangler took a little better lines on some obstacles...I am impressed ..AGAIN...with the VW.
For less than ten percent of the cost of the Jeep. I'll take the Toe Rag every time.
Damn it! I thought I was being the original thinker with that name!😂🤣
one of your best series and best choices of cars. Love the touareg
The Touareg did just fine, it got to the top of the mountain just fine. The moment where it touched borrow slightly and tapped the tree with the minor are not problems, the Touareg is a bigger vehicle so that will happen to all bigger vehicles, the Jeep ran a better line (if u look at the video you can see that the Jeep received better directions from the navigator than the Touareg received, so the Touareg was aligned poorly to go over that rock). We can also see that the Touareg has a much more comfortable ride, which is important because the Jeep has a severely kidney busting ride that just beats up your body as you get older). The Touareg also has plastic parts that can be superglued or replaced, so that is the same as the Jeep, but of course VW prices might be higher but if it is then you can simply pick up your plastic at a junkyard since this is an off-road vehicle, it does not matter if the colors don't match and it doesn't matter if it is scraped up either, off road vehicles should look like they go off-road every day.
Maybe Roman is the better spotter and Tommy a better pilot for the Touareg. Would have been interesting had Roman been piloting the Wrangler and Tommy the Touareg, which would mean the spotter roles also reverse. Tommy also seems to have more experience with the Touareg at this point. Maybe he's got a slightly better feel for it than Roman does now?
@@dzelpwr You're right!
Your comparing a 13 year old Touareg with a brand new jeep! I'd say the touareg won by far. Try doing a same year comparison.. That shows you how capable a Touareg really is. It goes head to head with vehicles a decade newer!
The thumbnail literally says “old vs new” .....
13 year old Rubicon would make no difference
Newer Touaregs can't do what that older generation was possible. VW has dumbed it down focusing more on the on-road performance
A 2004 Wrangler would still do better than the Touareg. ANY year Wrangler/CJ with locking front and rear diffs would do better than the Touareg.
@trublu97 But you could buy a CJ, install lockers and still be under $4600.
The entire time you basically complained about the touareg! But in the end it got you there and back.
I think he spends too much time complaining than driving. Tommy should have handled the Tuareg
He praises dodge everytime
super nice guy, but wet paper bag.too fragile.
The Touareg has "Down Hill Assist"- just square-off with the fall-line, take your foot off the pedal and your hands off the wheel...practically...the owner's manual states "maximum permitted grade" is 45 degrees when following the fall-line, 35 degrees when crossing a slope.
The Touareg is very capable for what it is. The main difference is in 15 years the Jeep will still sell for half of the original msrp. Where as the vw is only worth 4600.00 approximately 1/8th it’s original msrp.
15 years might be a bit of a stretch there. 🙃 🙃 🙃
@@thawk1435 It would be close. My 10 year old Rubicon Unlimited was just over 30k new and NADA has it valued at just over $20,000 and it has over 120k miles on it. They have to be in good condition for sure.
Depends on where you live, in west Texas 2006 wranglers with 250,000+ miles still go for around 20k
@Leo Worth Your entitled to your own opinion just like us. But the FACTS are Wranglers hold their value better than almost any other vehicle. FACTS are FACTS regardless if you think they are junk. I love the fact that I can drive my 4door Rubicon through the woods and streams, over rocks and logs, and beat the crap out of it and then drive to work. I am on my 5th Wrangler and they have all been very reliable. I have also always made a profit when selling them. As I said, feel free to have your own opinion.
john rubitron I just sold my 07 unlimited with 78k miles for $13,500 buying it new for $25 and trading at a dealer my wife’s 17 rubicon unlimited for 31k and buying a Gladiator Launch Addition for 58k. Maybe the JT won’t hold its value like the Wrangler but I’m willing to take the chance. Jeeps hold there value better then Toyota’s
This is only 20 miles from my house. I love it. Waiting on a new radiator, new rack and pinion and I'll be taking my Titan pro4x up there. What a fantastic trail and view!!!
I'm very impressed by the Volkswagen Touareg. (Go VDUB✌)
Mojo522 Until it’s time to fix when it breaks down.
Mojo522 definitely, with a couple of mods it be so good
Agree 100%
In dah haus ! Time to un-pimp das auto. 😆
@@CarnutMM Riiiiight, because Jeep reliability is so legendary: 8th FROM BOTTOM in latest 2019 JD Power Reliability Survey, and that is actually an improvement on 2018, when it was 4th......... FROM BOTTOM! 😂😂😂
Wow, really impressive work by VW Touareg and you guys! Keep rockin!
WOW! that was great. I was gonna sell my 06 V10 TDI (Torque Monster) Touareg but now I think I will get off road tires and do some exploring here.
During my years with the gas company in WV, I did a lot of off roading in very steep terrain. Back in the day we didn't have hill decent control on vehicles. I always found the downhill rides the most challenging and the few times I almost rolled a vehicle were going down steep, slippery hills. They are butt clenching.
The Jeep gets 1st place. But that VW was the winner of the day in my book. That was impressive for a large suv. Coutos to VW!
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I dont know but Tommy should have driven the Touareg. Better driver for the less capable vehicle.
Not so sure about the "less capable" part... ;)
Same thing I was thinking. Roman is NOT a good driver. He loves cars but doesn't seem to be the most skilled at driving.
At least tommy is lighter lol the VW is heavier so why weigh it down with a heavier driver?
Why put the heavier guy in the heavier car???? Unfair disadvantage to the VW!!!
The weight is not a problem for air suspension cars, it self level
I love my 2006 VW Touareg v8 with center and rear lockers. Though I miss my 2000 Jeep Wangler and Rock Crawling.
Love my Touareg with air suspension. Looks identical to yours they are amazing cars. Loved the video.👍 You have the roof bars the wrong way round or back to front. At speed they will whistle like mad the way you have them installed. If you look behind the flap where the lock is you will see an arrow that should point to the front of the car. 👍
Thanks for the heads-up
are you using first gear in the touareg? when in low range is starts in 2nd gear by default and you have to use the shifter to command 1st gear. it will help you tremendously. I used this a lot with my V10 touareg years ago offroad.
Sometimes people don't even read the user manuals, I think that's Roman's case...cause that touareg is even more capable that they showed
Tommy is the one who's been doing most of the videos with the Touareg, and I feel like he's the type to read the manuals and otherwise research the hell out of whatever vehicle he's driving...he's just a nerd like that. I often hearing Tommy telling his Dad what to do, what features to activate, etc.
somedude did I read that correctly. V10 engine?
@@val-xo7ud They were available with a bonkers V10 diesel, yes
@@val-xo7ud evento v12 on some markets
i love the touareg series. good job as usual.
Oh boy, I'd love to see a Range Rover VS VW Tourage VS G-Waggon VS Jeep Grand Cherokee VS Land Cruiser (same year)... hahaha, that would be so crazy. One can only dream.
Check your recalls on the Rubicon. There are a series of 2019 Jeep Wranglers with defective steering parts causing major instability while driving.
Robert Morris Yes
Robert Morris yeah I’ve heard about that, they are giving everyone free steering stabilizer
Jeeping Down Under ...and it still doesn’t help. The JL steering sucks below 60 and is dangerous any faster than that. I’ll take TJ death wobble over JL slack.
Happens with virtually any solid front axle... Death wobble is a fact of life. Happened in the TJ's and JK's as well.
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Awesome video! Thank you again Roman and Tommy. You went above and beyond!
I absolutely love these videos! Thanks TFL!
What a beautiful country you have and you filmed it to perfection your videos are masterful Keep it up.
Your editing is becoming next level. Love the intro. Great vid!
I loved it when Roman was up against the tree, with his window down and Tommy - all of 2 feet from him, kept talking into the radio!
Outstanding video fellas! Thanks for showing the off-road chops VW baked into the Touareg with this series!!
Wow... I didn't see this comparison coming !!! Excellent job guys !!! A+
Been watching you guys for years and I must say you all truly knocked it out of the park with this one. The videography and editing was fantastic. Keep up the great work fellas!
Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind comments!
I don't know how I missed this video, but it's amazing! As always, great work guys. This trail looks epic too, once again it just makes me really want to get out to CO to see y'all with my 4Runner.
Not bad considering the Tuareg is more about North African dessert than boulder strewn extreme trails.
Well the Touareg wasnt even desinged for desert or Offroading at all, it was desinged as a Streetcar which can go fast and have all luxury while Sitting high xD and a bit for towing big Trailers
@@ShadowSkillUpwell it was designed to be good on road and offroad which it is really hard because they both don't go hand to hand
Awesome video, guys! We need more like this! I'd like to take my JLUR on this trail; the scenery is spectacular! 😎
What an awesome location!! Great video again, guys!
Thanks guys for your videos. Your conversations, narration, cars, music, sceneries - are just great. You show not only cars which I love but some nice pieces of US :ok:
Best video in a long time. Well done. Thank you.
Love This T-Reg Series, Makes me want to get my 09 TDI up in the mountains soon, I just got it ;) You guys rock! Thanks for all these vids! Tommy your awesome, enjoy your presentation and enthusiasm!
Man you guys are putting a smile on every Touareg owner out there - and after their repair bills, they needed this! lol
Excellent video guys the VW did a great job based on its on road capability
Great trail for a 4x4 test! If you need a tie breaker though going back up the one way section is a fun time... Of coarse you need friends on both ends to keep it clear safe. Keep up the fun and diverse content!
Awesome video Roman and Tommy thanks guys! Also those guys behind the scenes great job everyone! It was incredible to watch the VW in action following the rubicon...is the rubicon completely stock? I think this is what I’d like to get when it’s time to upgrade my TJ.
I have a 2005 VW Touareg with locking center and read diff plus a 1999 LR Discovery 1 with locking center diff and EATON True Trac front and rear, so I loved this video... thanks for making it!
Great video. Might be doing that trail next weekend. And congrats on your first trail damage - tree rash. My first damage was being hit by 2 different cars in two days. Miraculously, no one was hurt and I was the least for wear both times. Still think you should give more points on the ORI scale for vehicles with lockers. 10 points per is good.
Your best series ever easily. Love the Touareg. Thanks for awesome videos.
Great video guys! Nice work.
Oh yeah. That's what you guys are, and should be all about! It's like a review but with adventure. I'm already awaiting the next one!!
Love that you guys can come down the famous red cone decent WHILE narrating the video. That's very impressive.
Great !!! Thanks for this great video! Next week we get our new JL, we are looking forward :-) Greetings from Germany
Excellent video! Red Cone is one of my favorites. Keep it up!!
Great video 👍 I do miss seeing the Samurai. The Wrangler fan noise is because Jeep knows that cooling is essential, especially when crawling off-road.
LSanti they definitely need it
It still is kinda loud tho, the fans in the hummers for example didn't make THAT much noise and keeps the vehicle nice and cool, and to my knowledge the wrangler jk didn't make that much noise eather, so it seems more like a corner cut tbh. I wouldn't mind the noise however, just let's ya know it works.
This was an amazing video! Thanks guys 👍
I want to take my KL on that trail. That is one amazing view. Great video.
Great video, Ive never been off road until now, Thank you
Holy smokes! Tfl!! This video was really incredible, that red cone trail is ubsurd going down! I certainly wish I had a jeep or some sort and was in Colorado to check this out, wow!!!! So beautiful!!! So darrnn steeep!! One of my new fav Tfl videos of all time!
If you ever visit CO, you can rent a Jeep at the airport with Avis. You can rent a Nissan Frontier as well.
Great video, love the parts where Tommy is spotting over the radio but it sound like an event announcer, it’s as if the Touareg is a circus animal and Tommy is announcing it’s moves!🤣
Guys, love these videos and glad to be done with all my work travel....Can finally start watching these regularly again🤘 cant wait to hit the trails with you all. Roman said it right, a cheap offroader with the right parts is how you keep up with 40k plus rigs😉 The old explorer is getting retired and a 2003 seqouia will be the new beater, cant wait to see its capability and build it up.
Truly,..a butt clenching ride,..super video! Thanks TFC,...Roman, Tommy and the 'un-named' camera crew!
Oh this is great. I want to try Red Cone in the Cherokee soon. This is one of the greatest, scariest trails in the world.
superb video guys!! that touareg did amazing!
Great Video again! keep it up!
Wow... my palms were sweating! That looked like fun!!!
nice channel, instant abo, thanks for those nice videos from germany/wolfsburg
Great father and son team work
The all time "How did a Volkswagen get up here?" moment. I have been so impressed from the moment you bought the Toureg.
Love the content, just want to point out the typo in the title!!
Nice drone footage at the top of the mountain. The Jeep is insanely capable, still blows my mind.
This video had me watching the whole way through. Quite entertaining.
Beautiful scenery. I will have to make a visit to CO and drive this trail. You should test more vehicles on this trail. Looks a little more challenging that the others you drive.
I was thinking about getting an older VW.
Great video guys,I need to get sone new tyres on my Touareg Escape and go off road.
The only experience I've had with Jeep was a Pink Jeep tour in Sedona, AZ. Those things can go anywhere and are truly amazing so it is pretty impressive the VW did as well as it did.
Wonderful Video!!! What a Quality - I like it
If you two keep it up, I’m going to have a dang JL, 2 door Rubicon in my garage!!! I live with Banff in my back yard, so to speak, so have some country almost as nice as what you two, and the team, have for off-roading. The Tourag is still impressing me as well, but that 2.0 litre Jeep!! Wow! Thanks for the fun video. Good to see some paint left behind, fortunately from the VW that is. Roman made me laugh when his first reaction turned into a joke about fixing the mirror with crazy glue.You fellas, and the team, have created one of the best off-road videos of this type for any channel I have watched! I have watched a LOT of them. Thanks so very much guys! Please play safe out there.......
Clearance and dynamic clearance are 2 different pairs of shoes. The first is measured standing still ... the second appears under the dynamic pressure of a stone on a single wheel getting on / off that rock. The mirror's plastic "housing" of the touareg is here 67€ incl. 19% VAT or 78$ deliverabke in 48 hours ... but makes no sense if glue can fix it ... cause otherwise you need a paint job done.
I love my Touareg . You should have got the 3.0 V6 tdi , by far the best one . 225bhp 500 ft/lbs of torque. Mine has just tripped over to 143000 miles . Never lets me down . Only mod . 18" rims with All terrain tyres . It goes everywhere I need to go . Gives me 35mpg too .
Wow! Very impressive. No sweat for the Rubicon, but hey that Touareg did a darn good job. For what it (Touareg) is - basically a car, it did a great job.
These videos are great!! I fell in love with this Touareg!! But then again I’m all for anything but a Jeep
That was a great video!
11:40 Tommy, you're exactly right. Despite the reduced articulation of an independent suspension compared to a straight-axle suspension, the independent suspension overall will be more comfortable. This matches my experience riding/driving in military vehicles, trucks, SUV's, and crossovers. For folks who no longer or do not have the physical and mental endurance of withstanding the pronounced side-to-side sway of straight-axle suspensions, lifting wheels at rough obstacles is a reasonable sacrifice of articulation assuming the vehicle has BLD-effect of traction control and/or lockers for that comfort of fully-independent suspension.
Nicely done. And kudos to the Touareg!
I'm very impressed with the amount of love and praise for the much mis understood Toureg What a fantastic well designed vehicle they were
Great video!
Love the Touareg but went with a WK Grand Cherokee with QDII and lifted it instead, and enjoyed many Colorado trails with it. Wish I could bring mine for you to do a comparison if I'm not a thousand miles away.
I would love to see y’all do a mash up with a 08-12 Trail Rated Jeep Liberty vs the VW and even a Wrangler or Trailhawk anything. I have a 2010 Jeep Liberty Renegade and I haven’t done a whole lot with it and there wasn’t that much love for them.
Unlock the front lockers from the Jeep and do it again and see how it does and keep the sway bar connected that would make it more fair
The VW has a disconnecting front sway bar, so its fine that the Jeep used it. But really, the Jeep would have done this whole trail with its lockers off. There was no reason to use them.
@@Stuka87 The disconnecting front sway bar (and front locker) was an option this particulare Touareg does not have
@@Stuka87 i don't think so. In some areas it would have needed the lockers, wishful thinking. Bottom line on this video is the Jeep has better lines than the VW and that's what made the biggest difference.
???? This video wasn’t trying to make it fair? The title is literally old vs new. No shit they used the front lockers and disc. Sway bar.
@@jarredl990 the take away i got was the VW was ahead of its time and a very capable but underrated vehicle.
Have you guys ever considered taking viewers of your channel on excursions? I see your videos in amazement of the beautiful terrain you play in and I think some of your viewers would love to experience it as well.
Really enjoyed this one
Amazing video! Totally in awe of the effort you took to do all this, thanks so much! Do wish you would have given some more direct props to the Touareg though "...really impressed by how well the Jeep did..." - I might say its not overly impressive that it is doing what it should. "Certainly found the limits of the Touareg…" The places the Touareg had trouble seemed more about approach and driving than actual capability limits. Not saying it was perfect, but unless you guys edited out some disaster scenes, seemed really quite on par with what the Jeep did.
this is great content
Double check your build sheet there guys (Tommy commented that the Rubicon has 410 gears) not sure about the new JL's but in the JK's the 410's were only standard in the Manual transmission The automatics were 373's even in the Rubicon unless you special ordered it with 410's! Nice little bait-n-switch from FCA I only recently figured out... Also I've really been enjoying these Touareg off-road videos!
Hi Guys, great video. You will have to do it again, this time the Rubicon without lockers, just sway bar disconnect. I recon it will still be better than the Touareg. I never used diff lock on my JK rubicon. Eventually sold it because it made off road boring. Got a JKUL Sahara diesel now, love it.
Great video as always. However, I do have a problem using the older touareg with higher wear and tear/miles vs a new vehicle with little wear and tear and miles on it :(
I admire (& am jealous) how well Tommy & Roman work together. If it was me & my boys, there would be blood.
Nice one guys!
Great video thank you!