Francis Ford Coppola and Martin Scorsese: Great Conversation! FULL
2019 ж. 14 Ақп.
137 501 Рет қаралды
Martin Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola Interview with Geoffrey Gilmore on the USSB "Hollywood Insiders" program (ca. 1997).
Martin Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola Interview with Geoffrey Gilmore on the USSB "Hollywood Insiders" program (ca. 1997).
38:50 - Francis talking about the project he has always wanted to do and now in 2023 it’s halfway done filming…wow. Can’t wait for Megalopolis!!!
It's crazy to think about Scorsese being asked in 1997 if he had anymore big projects in him. And Scorsese questioning his own durability. He's made so many classics since then.
Well Coppola was done by 97! So probably Scorsese just wanted to be polite about his journey.
And it's crazy that Coppola, from 97 till these days, didn't have a real amount of money to make his projects. He made The Godfather and Apocalypse Now....it seems Hollywood forgot it
@@lorello7373 poured 250 million of his own money into his next venture.
Scorsese is a maniac, workaholic living legend. An all around all genre champion. He's a rare, rare breed. dude has done TV, movies, ads, short films, documentaries. Has done comedy, drama , biography, action, gangster, religion. The only thing that i really want him to make- science fiction and horror. both these elements are used in other genre movies by him. But not full sci-fi or horror
@@rajatbhat7799 that’s fair. i’d say the closest i’ve seen to a fully fledged horror in a scorsese film would be either shutter island or cape fear. both psychological thrillers.
This is what intelligent conversation sounds like. Two such great artists. Could listen to them for hours
Absolutely love that Scorsese takes the time to give De Palma the credit for discovering De Niro even when the interviewer didn’t seem to care that much. Classy move indeed.
Dude just kept on talking. Lol. Not a great interviewer.
Scorsese is a very class guy. Both are great great film makers.
I’ll never know why De Palma always get thrown under the rug when it comes to the New Hollywood auteurs. Blow Out is up there with all of Scorsese’s films
These two are like an old married couple starting and finishing each other's sentences. They have like a telepathy with one another. The thoughts and ideas fly fast and loose. Its like two big giant encyclopedia books on the history of cinema talking point/counterpoint back and forth, overlapping dialogue nonstop like a speed round of movie trivia with director commentary on in the background and film fact pop ups popping up throughout. They are movie in and of themselves.
this is the scorsese I always see in my head when I think of him. What a treasure he is to my experience in this life.
He is
Crazy how the points they make in this conversation have only grown more and more relevant in the years since. 2 very prescient men
They should do another one of these today.
Zach Paul You should check out the directors round table series
Zach I would Love to see One with The Big 4( Scorsese, Spielberg, Lucas and Coppola) that will be a Must Watch!!!
@@purplebondsaiyan2987 Gotta include De Palma in there!
@@afonsolucas2219 yess!
@@purplebondsaiyan2987 delete Lucas. He's a business man, no longer a real director, and include De Palma.
I can't believe I get to watch this for free. 2 of the greatest minds in film ever. Wow!
Agreed. Now everything is paid for, by subscription or advertising revenue. I'm thinking these two legends appeared without a movie to sell. Just to talk about their art and profession. Interesting however Scorsese missed the mark ref television. Or maybe that's how quickly life, art, entertainment and our working lives have evolved.
Let's be honest, Scorsese is the reason most of us are here Coppola,aside from being a pedophile defender, hasn't done anything worthwhile since the 80s and is a lot less interesting to hear in this interview. Take him out of it and nothing is lost
Both know what real cinema is :)
Their movies are real gourmet shit
@@thecommentsuperhero8578 lol then who's good in directing?
@@naumancsd0983 Oh no you got it wrong. That was a Pulp Fiction reference.
@@thecommentsuperhero8578 oh sorry my bad
@@naumancsd0983 nah it happens
I could listen to these two men for 10 hours. Fascinating perspectives on art.
Two masters
i could listen to them talk for hours. scorsese's genius is so apparent in his interviews and his brain goes a mile a minute
Francis - It made zero money Martin - Yhh it was beautiful
You can see Francis admiration for Martin
Incredible. They are reading our minds. CGI as an unfortunate creative shackle instead of an asset and in todays cinematography a real eyesore that can't hold a candle to the realism of let's say Star Wars. Even though in the right hands CGI can be a powerful asset not a black eye on modern cinema. Preach.
Marvel movies are great examples of this
Unknowingly, they predicted Marvel Studios and the last 10 years of cinema a decade before it happened lol
I'd defy anyone filmmaker in the Marvel studio's movies to make movies like Francis and Marty have in their heyday. They didn't worry about guns and explosions going off like crazy they just gave you a great film. It's like Marty had said that the Marvel movies are primarily going for the roller coaster films and unfortunately that's lost on a lot of filmmakers nowadays.
You might be too young to remember how awful mainstream action movies were in the 90’s. ID4, etc. . .
love these directors ... great craftsmen
thank you for uploading!
This talk is amazing. Everyone interested in movies should take notes. So much insight in this dialogue.
This is SUPER GREAT... So Grateful to have discovered this extended interview! Thanks very much for uploading this!
Bruh, I can't even keep up with the amount of wonderful film history and appreciation these two are sharing to the world. Two of the greats, showing us why they are great!
It’s fascinating to hear these great artists to talk about the business and economics of the industry.
Amazing interview!
never seen them together, amazing
I love the pace of this interview. Most interviews I have to speed up to 2x so I don't feel like I'm wasting time.
You actually have to go 0.5 when Scorsese's talking.
Exactly. If only Quentin Was in the room during this conversation.
De Niro in Goodfellas was a cameo? LOL
I think, relative to DeNiro's place in a movie by that date (1990), it was a cameo, a supporting role. Not in every scene.
@@kennethlatham3133 cameo is few seconds . Genius
So informative on our cinema history, even from 26 year's ago.
I wanted to listen to Marty talk about the posters...and this dude changed the subject. I love Rumble fish
This is the best thing on KZhead
Wonder what these gentlemen would say about the modern medium of streaming services, which has allowed for very long-form storytelling. The development of character arches can take many, many hours, and you get to know them in great depth. I think in some ways the medium feeds on impatience and are quite addicting, but the stories can also be incredibly compelling.
I find it very interesting that the things they were saying in this interview from '97 are as relevant in 2021 as it was back then. The low attention span kids had back then because of 20 minute sitcoms can now be blamed on Tiktok and social media in general. As the saying goes "The more things change, the more they stay the same."
Frankly, I grew up on the 25 minute TV shows and didn't suffer from low attention span. That has come into major focus with, first KZhead, then TikTok, and the whole internet social media thing.
Great masters of cinema
Gem of a video
making good ones, day by day
This is incredible
television series is the new format rivalling theatrical releases for cinematic quality..these two are the last of the classic filmmakers with tremendous work along the lines of ford, kurasawa, lean, bergman, fellini, hawkes, altman, and, more recently, burton, spike lee, nolan, and gibson
This is such a great interview! They practically predicted studios like a24 and neon would come about, and the artists that came with them. Which makes sense as to why Marty is such a fan of Robert Eggers and Ari Aster.
They need to film long interviews with them now
Movie legends! Gods!
2 giants.
Theyre right about the Marvel movies.
The Marvel movies are great, they just have the misfortune of being in a medium where being successful destroys everything after it. After Marvel, every other movie is pressured to duplicate Marvel’s success. I blame the studio’s refusal to understand that good movies don’t need to comply to blueprints of other great movies. Or that some films don’t need to be blockbusters.
@@jjochemsI don’t think you understand how “DA SUITS” think. ..
@@jnnx How am I wrong?
Truly incredible stuff
9:47 when Coppola says movies are not like coca cola they dont have a standard product they can rely upon and expand, he didnt know that they would figure out how to do that. Look at Marvel movies, theyre trite boring corporate brands that produce three movies a year that are predictable and marketable to a mass audience. Then those people feel like theyre being attacked by scorses when he calls them dumb movies. They are dumb and they are not art, its a coca cola bottle. No risk, big reward
The best directors of all time
Coppola's Type analysis 8:45 "failures" = pragmatic 9:00 "the business is not profitable in the way that they require it to be" = pragmatic 9:50 "what I think is gonna happen" 9:40 systematic 14:00 "they start to loose control of the means of production" outcome 14:25 "let me figure out how to make a movie that makes a lot of money..." Outcome + pragmatic 16:35 "you can really hear how it's important for them to get sth out of..." Fe + outcome 16:45 "that audience goes to movies to illuminate life" interest + abstract 19:39 "it performed a certain function that no other company is doing" systematic 21:55 "that's the best policy" systematic 29:28 "collaboration is the sex of creativity" abstract 29:36 "constantly modified by what the actors will bring to it" = inputs, ressources brought = outcome 31:00 "we're trying to accomplish that" Te + outcome 31:05 "truthful" = Te "innovative" = abstract 31:38 Si, systematic 36:35 "change the system" systematic 38:10 "I have achieved that" Si + Te 38:27 Fi 38:56 Te + outcome (not going over budget = proper planning = outcome) 41:40 outcome Scorcese's type analysis 10:25 "they want to use this medium as a way of telling a story" Ne-Te outcome 10:38 "if they're a way to get it done they will do it" abstract, Ne, result, pragmatic 12:56 "I grew up downtown. I didn't see the sky" Si 15:10 "It's a different frame of reference" abstract 16:25 "This is cinema. This is something else" systematic 20:48 "and sometimes that works" pragmatic 24:00 systematic + abstract 24:35 "Everybody's an actor. You're acting now" Se + Te 26:14 pragmatic 26:56 "we'd explore each other's ideas" movement 29:45 outcome 31:13 "the key thing" Fi 34:07 Te 36:19 "it just takes too much time" Te 40:33 "keep going" movement 42:00 "film preservation" = body temple 42:40 "a journey through American cinema" movement 43:20 Si + Ti (facts)
If you don't mind me asking, what does the 'ne', 'te', 'si', etc. mean?
@@jakewallmeier7823 it's the MBTI cognitive functions for psychological analysis. Based on the C.S. Joseph KZhead channel.
It's remarkable that this interview is 25 years old and the situation has only gotten worse.
that was great .
Great stuff!
True artists. We need more directors like this - free from the stranglehold of accountants and willing to take grand risks.
This era is long gone. We only live off the Scraps of these men. Watched Apokalypse now, well, there will never be a Film like this again.
Absolutely losing it at the DnB music that plays over the interludes. Marty's PS1 Adventure Ft Francis Ford Coppola. Great interview too!
You definitely weren’t alive in 1997.
I like how the comments are new
These days, computer games are eating Hollywood's lunch, possibly their last lunch...
The first time I'm able to distinguish Marty's speaking... thanks to playback speed option on YT vids!
Two Geni Assoluti. ♥️♥️
this is amazing and still relevant to the machine of terrible movies
Italian pride! 👏🇮🇹
Marty look like one of the member of his movies, from Goodfellas ;)
Indica vs Sativa
what a great argumentation against corporatism, huh
Funny the reference to Titanic considering Marty went on to make so many movies with DeCapprio.
Watch any video on KZhead where some guy is talking, select playback speed 2X, and it sounds just like Martin Scorsese.
Two Mavericks
I like Scorsese! He seems so fking decent to me! He doesnt iterrupt anyone. He is such an good storyteller. He can create the most brutal gangster movie but in real life not touch a thing and be kind to anyone. The best!
"Miramax is not United Artists" Lol
When Scorsese talks I have to check my speed setting isn’t at 2.0.
From my perspective, when these guys go, the days of the types of films they made as being a 'cultural event' dies with them. At the present time we are running off the fumes of what they did. And the idea of this type of 'luxury art form' only survives in our memory and with their presence, even if the movies they make now don't necessarily capture the magic that their older ones do, we still hold the sentiment and nostalgia in what they create now. This also goes for some of the other older greats, such as the ones mentioned by Scorsese in this interview. When they go, it goes with them. In a world of muddled technology, and a lack of focus on one thing, the cinema is a thing of the past. It is also spread out and made ineffective by the vast amount of released media lost in the shuffle of streaming services. Just consider that once upon a time every small town had a little theater in the square, that is practically obsolete. And they are dwindling by the day elsewhere. Not to mention just the art form itself lacks in substance, vision, and craft, more so than it ever has. The movies we happen to consider great these days by younger movie-digital makers pale in comparison to the cinema of the past. And when younger people finally get around to seeing the older ones, even they can't deny it.
1997
The "Hollywood's gonna be compromised" line hits home eh?😏
❤️❤️
Everything that Marty was criticized for saying recently about the current Hollywood system, his alleged old-fart "get off my lawn" attitude, it's right here and fully fleshed out 23 years before. Marty was living it as it started to unfold. But he missed a couple of elements in his predictions: 1) The "made for China" approach to filmmaking, (which brings me to the next one)... 2) The rise of crappy animation-quality CGI where they throw everything but the kitchen sink at your eyeballs and aching brain... over and over and over again. 3) The quick and dirty multiplex "best-seller not long-seller" approach, where a film is made or broken in the first weekend. But then...! Marty also didn't predict the rise of entertainment services like Netflix. Also, he didn't predict theaters closing, then people staying away in droves (me one of them), because we don't want to bring a virus home. So much money invested with no return in the foreseeable future, the industry may be in the painful process of experiencing another paradigm shift, and an unforeseen and abrupt one at that. This after they have squeezed cinema chains for so long... especially Disney and their draconian terms.
He's an artist, not Nastradamus
DILLITAUNT was here for the insight & inspiration
Nothing says “1997” like a dnb drum break.
1:38 there isn't a better explanation of the American Cinematic environment of the 1970's than this...
Two intelectuals the best of the best in they own craft. W'd love to do a movie with them _ just saying.
scorsese rap god :D
I'd never heard of United Artists before this interview but it sounds a bit like A24.They both seemed pretty cynical throughout the interview about the current landscape & future but its nice to see Scorsese lately praising exciting young new filmmakers like Aster, Eggers & Celine Song in the past few months.
Scorsese speaks in 1.2x speed.
It was absurd Scorsese didn't win best director for "The Aviator"....Clint won for "Million Dollar Baby" which was a good film but it was the script and performances which made it
Can’t believe the interviewer would waste time by asking questions instead of making them watch The Sopranos
Ageless conversation
15:56 pretty much all of Marvel/Disney’s productions in a nutshell, wow
Only 10000 views!
Imagine you are the television director of this production interviewing two of the greatest cinema directors of all time. Then play that photographer’s game that any photographer worth his salt can NEVER stop playing: “Border Patrol.” Look around the edges of the frame Look around the edges of the subjects Poorly done Things are cut off in the foreground and background All the director or cinematographer had to do was use his eyes to scan the shots before he started, but he skimped out Maybe the production was rushed Shame on them if it was a rushed shoot They could have spent another hour or so ironing out the shots Oh well If you get it wrong on tape, it lives that way when seen You can only cut around it or reshoot it Here we are all these YEARS later watching a great interview imperfectly shot because they could not spare a couple HOURS to fix the shot compositions Bah I would not know what I was doing, probably, if I was the guy in charge Who knows about that contingency? All I know is that the purity of the framing is off in the shots to my eyes in this interview. I will pray for America. Please pray for me. God Bless you.
Prayed for you, man. And I get what you’re saying, the composition was a little distracting. I mostly listened to the video in the background.
"Praising Woody Allen" Both Hands Thumbs Up!
The thing about Woody and these two, they make movies about people not comic books.
6:40 6% 37:03 Coppola's one regret
21:00
😱
Its awesome that Kubrick wanted to do the life of napoleon... ridley Scott did do a great job though.
I like Marty so much that I watched The Irishman once.
bwahah, i find it quite rewatchable when its on in the background, like an audiobook or something
I mean I think De Niro's role in Goodfellas was too big to be called a cameo. Supporting, okay.
And now video games have topped movies.
No, they really haven’t. You are talking about following “horse racing” which they refer to in this video of tracking box office receipts. They have turned the fans into CORPORATE SUITS.
All this video needs is some Jungle beats and it would be great
The quality of the video had me thinking it was shot in the early 80's, at most. Then I noticed that neither Coppola nor Marty looked young.
Nothing about this looks remotely early 80’s.
Neither of them could name a young contemporary director they thought highly of...
Scorsese really admires Ari Aster
@@paolocerrino7901 nope. But he praised Wes Anderson many times in the past.
@@Bardamu3000 scorsese literally wrote the introduction for Midsommar’s blu ray edition, if that’s not admiration I don’t know what it is
@@paolocerrino7901This TV interview is from 1997.
i can’t believe they got the california italian and the new york italian to have a conversation.
?
Obsessiveness vs. Artistic......... not that it's a competition.....
Awesome❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
At what point did anyone think it was ok for a man be in shot behind Scorsese's head picking his nose, playing with his moustache and looking at his nails? Kind of incongruous, especially considering the interviewees.. and really annoying to people with low tolerance to this kind of thing like myself. I apologise to anyone who hadn't noticed and is now also distracted. 😘
Marty could've been a great rapper