The Gruesome History of the Comanche Tribe w/S.C. Gwynne | Joe Rogan

Noble Savage is a myth? Lol

Well, today’s identity politics just won’t allow the truth as it doesn’t fit this victim role the left so graciously put out there for the indian minorities. Fact of the matter is this: people have and always will be at war for power and resources.

there were no trees to hug in Comancheria.

Toori Baba *us government

I'm Scottish and my ancestors would war with anyone, and often raided neighbours for cattle,horses or the land..! Only our skin colour is different.. 🙂😐

Yes I'd definitely subscribe his guest are all so enlightened in their particular topics theres alot you can learn from them & I always want to read their books anyway.

Or you could just listen and buy of your own accord.

@King Delevingne But he can look at the pictures

This is a GREAT idea!!

@GazB85 dude chilllll.... Just look at them as recommendations from real interesting friends. Sheesh

thanks for sharing man. I hope you can contribute in bringing life back to your people's language. we've no native Gaeilge speakers here in Ireland anymore and it is spoken mainly by small groups of enthusiasts, our last monolingual Irish speaker Seán Ó hEinirí died in 1998.

Well, seems like "your people" have made a lot of bad choices. I hope "your people" get it all figured out, turn things around and become productive members of my people's society.

@@bc2578 hey go f yourself. Show some respect. What happened to natives American is way worst then the Holocaust. You inconsiderate trailer trash p o s.

Time to take some scalps and drive the white man back to the sea.

I pray for your people. I hope like the forces of the dessert before they overcome. I know you are strong.

Wow

Good ol Lawton, Oklahoma. I know it well.

😊

Did she know him Great grandson?

Back then the DOD was simply called the War Department lol

Rogan ain't giving anyone shit for christmas though

Tf? are you stupid he shows any of his friends books. He is a friend and helps his friends. I doubt he would read it. There are way more better books than that on lol. These book about indian are facts from white people LOL

@@benevolent2077 I didn't watch the clip but I KNOW he read the book because he's talked about it since. In passing. He loves the book. Like he mentions it constantly. He's obsessed with how brutal they were.

It's good!

@@benevolent2077 "facts from white people." your comment is full of stupidity

27 times and everything you owned was a weird shade of green and heavily pixelated.

But the hunting was fun!

Everything fell in the river when I tried to cross it.

I loved that game

@Douglas Francis holy shit i forgot about that game, it was amazing

Hell yeah, boy. We Dem Lords of the Southern Plains.

Our spirits come from heaven, not earth. Our bodies come from the earth.

Ernesto, are you Penateka, Kwerharenah, Detsanayukah, Yamparika, Kotsoteka or Tanima ? My family was part of the Penateka until the mid 1850's, then they settle into the Kwerharenah until 1875.

But society today thinks tribes lived in harmony until the white man set foot here . I won’t celebrate indigenous day. The slighter I read about make Europeans look humane

@Cocaine & pizza most indiginous were not as brutal as the Comanches

Tragically, there are no fairy tale Middle-Earth elven human history. The civilization develop through conquering. Examine Charlemagne the Great. Salient Franks were brutal people before adopting Christianity. Charlemagne spent most of his time conquering till there were no contenders, then turned to preserving Roman writings and cultures. American Indians never developed writing systems to preserve knowledge. They lived in a stone age world brutally raiding just like Vikings used to. Chinese dynasties were the same. They would kill or subjugate neighboring kingdoms till there were no contenders. After that, there were always one emperor who turned his wealth toward building his legacy through improving the civilization. Any culture who didn't have great emperors just died away or conquered.

Yeah, right. But let's not forget the brutality of Christian civilizations too. The Crusades, the Thirty Years War, the Witch Hunt and the Holly Inquisition. But perhaps a message of compassion helped to stop a little bit the human violence. It only took a couple of centuries and the proclamation of Human Rights to fully do so.

That's the old "noble savage" trope. First thing they tell you in any intro Anthropology class is disregard that silly notion.

@@TR4R My friend, the record of history is clear. Islam was born in Arabia in the 7th century and the Mohammedans immediately began attacking the Middle East (Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, etc.) and capturing Christian cities (Antioch, Jerusalem). Then they crossed the Mediterranean and attacked Europe, conquering Sicily and, using Sicily as their base, began attacking coastal towns which entailed killing, robbing, raping, and taking slaves. During this time, over 1 million white Europeans were taken into the Muslim world as slaves. In 846 AD while attacking Rome, Muslims looted St. Peters and St. Paul's Basilicas, desecrating and pillaging the holiest places in all of Christendom. They also invaded and conquered Spain and were attempting to invade Europe from the SW but were stopped at the Battle of Tours. This all happened for 400 years before the first Crusade ever took place. The Crusades were a RESPONSE to Muslim aggression.

@@TR4R The point being is that most - not all - tribes and civilizations down through history were brutal fucking monsters. The aristocracy in particular. You didn't get to be royalty by being nice. It wasn't a popularity contest. It was a kill any motherfucker who doesn't fall into line and kiss your ass contest. The Mongols, the Romans, et al. were all savage fucking monsters. In Julius Caesar's campaigns in Germany and France it's estimated he killed around 2 million people - men, women, and children. And that was then! All done by hand! When Pompey finally defeated the Spartacus uprising they crucified 6000 slaves along the Apian Way! They estimate that Ghengis Khan killed somewhere between 20-40 million people - almost 10 percent of the world population at that time - both directly and indirectly (famine from his scorched earth campaigns, sieges, etc.) The Natives here were no different, some tribes were nicer than others, and some were utterly savage. Survival here was hard.

I’m in high school and tbh never heard a word about Indian tribes or American Indians or anything like that all we learn about is Ancient Greek and more recent American wars

Rays Weldis this is because mostly for everyone that is the history of their culture. The US’s native population is very low compared to the one that originated in Europe. Your history is that of your ancestors not of your land primarily. Regardless I think they should add native history as well on the side

At least its there to look up for people who care.

They used to teach american history But that was nearly 40 years ago

Tell the actual truth... 😅 That wouldn’t be very American now would it.

Yeah, the so-called "Indian Wars" are a lot more complex than the media portray them, and a number didn't involve the settlers. The Lakota and Pawnee had a bitter rivalry for YEARS, partially why the Pawnee warmly welcomed the Union Pacific Railroad for a while (in their eyes, the enemy of their enemy was thereby their friend).

The Lonesome Dove Trilogy was based on actual stories told to Larry McMurty.

Sorry to bother you, what's this book name? Thank you

@@Bandera123 Empire of the Summer Moon is the book that I read. Next time I go to USA I am going to get a couple more books by him, I loved it.

@@TenThumbsProductions May I also suggest 'The Heart of Everything That Is' by Bob Drury & Tom Clavin. EotSM was excellent but I'd rank this a little higher. Empire is about the south-central USA tribes while Heart is about the north-central tribes. Both are incredible reads.

Wow 🤙🏼

he was bro 🙌🏼 not a coincidence

🙏🏻🙏🏻

@False Theory do you feel better now?

@@drew38724 did you?

It took a masculine specimen like Rogan to convince jocks that nerds were worth learning from.

@@kedabro1957 q-aa aq

@@kedabro1957 its a combination of that and just people who were curious about a lot of shit Rogan was curious about

Like Jared Diamond.

I wouldn't call them brilliant, sensational and creative maybe, but not brilliant.

Lone wolf...

People haven't changed, we are still capable of it. Certain cultures just stomped many of these practices out. Wait till those cultures are upended and let's see what morality replaces it.

That sort of shit still endures to this day, don't kid yourself. There are parts of Africa and Asia you should count your lucky fucking stars you were not born into. People are fucking savages. If we weren't the world wouldn't be going down the shitter today.

Bone tomahawk scene came to mind.....that was quick and probably be a blessing compared to some longer outcomes that I've googled.

You could be an edger I don't know

I like my torture medium rare.

@@winningbigly9012 hahahahahaha this shouldn't be that funny

@@CKMLMA8 He's a mad wanker.

I've never heard anybody call the Aztecs noble and virtuous. From my childhood on up to now, I've always known them as a tribe that attacked their neighbors often.

@@skippyflapper- They speak of them as virtuous in relation to the europeans (spaniards). The spaniards did commit atrocities when they arrived to mesoamerica, but the aztecs had also been committing them for a long time prior to that.

I love my aztec heritage they were smart and intelligent but brutish and loved warfare

@@DavidLopez-yt2yp- You are objective in your appreciation of the mexicas (aztecs). We need to appreciate the good, but also recognize and accept the bad.

@@onesojourner7514 ya I love the fact that they fought for territory and they were savage strategic warriors I have nothing against them i absolutely love them. everyone had ancestors who were violent and it's nothing to be ashamed for As for the natives most of them had several blood fueds and constantly fought each other

Some say it's near plagiarism on " The Great Plains " - Prescott Webb

“Fiery, but mostly peaceful.”

Your a dick for that! Now I got to sit here in my pissed pants... laughed so hard at this fr tho

Mai Lai Massacre anyone?

guys history was all peaceful! fiery but mostly peaceful!

karate guy If by the logic of the colonists (i.e. the natives had no claim to the land), there was no conquest or theft, because they saw the americans as “people with no ruler,” which, despite a brutally flawed mindset, seemingly justified the persecution and removal of locals. Now, if some foreign nations came to the U.S. and Canada, planted their flag on our shores, and set up forts; would you accept that? if they encroached on your personal property (which, by the way, most native tribes, city states, and nations did have concepts of land ownership, just not the european definition), would you accept the narrative that you were rightly conquered because they killed, maimed, or otherwise intimidated you and your family into leaving?

Absolutely true.

Wonder who's going to slaughter the stronger boss...

El Jefe ! A virus

True

@@eljefe5536 Their own prosperity-born naivety appears to be doing the trick

Morality is fluid.

Try explaining that to most natives!

Spiewick...if you're disagreeing with the Liberal narrative you're a misogynistic, racist prick lol. God i am honestly embarrassed to even be a part of this pathetic, entitled, gutless, selfish generation.

That's false though, slavery after war is one thing, but "atrocities" from every last people? Sorry, no. Read history more accurately .

ry494 lmao this comment might spite him into making a reply but I have a feeling he’s not gonna reply to this 😂 he’s obviously someone who lets the media think for him and thinks just because his 4x great grandfather didn’t kill babies that means no one from the same culture/ race committed any atrocities 😒

We're here bacuse our ancestors were the best at it

Pretty much🤔

Well played

@Equinsu Ocha! Don't project

You're here because The Almighty put you here! None of us are the reason for our existence...

Wow 😮that’s so incredible you have some awesome DNA I’m a Texan and I live abt 25 miles from Comanche, Texas it’s a small town close by called Hico which prides themselves as the home of Billy the kid--

Indians called them Devils eyes.

native luv white women

​@@Xxiii__ 😂

Yea sure u are.

Ken Burns. Look up his series

If they do that then you would have to talk about the various treaties

@Lovely Time they wouldnt do that because it would depict some tribes as gruesome and barbaric and anyone who isnt white is the greatest victim in america according to the democratic party and the white men would be shown as empathetic and the liberals want white men to be illustrated as gruesome and evil.

@Sgt. Giggle Mittens y'all were the savage violent rapist cannibals

@Sgt. Giggle Mittens I'm fully aware of that who came to turtle island ie America and raped robbed and murdered the indigenous peoples of the land?

As school should be. If were going to teach the youth history, let's be brutally honest.

One Man the history of the whites is extremely tame compared to African tribal mentality that still goes on today.

Casey Pegram pretty tame compared to the natives as well. They were killing babies and pregnant women long before we got here and civilized them or killed them. Sad but true.

@@dudeman5166 "hey that guy hits his wife, so let me do the same, rape her, and kill him and his child, then claim I'm good! that makes sense!" No, dude that's a really poor way to rationalize shitty behavior. Yours, mine or anyone else's. How about just... you know.. take responsibility and be like "yeah, that happened, my guys did it, and that was fucked up. Lets not do that again and how about we not cast stones given that we live in a glass house (and likely claim to be christian per the numbers)", like someone who has morals, ethics, and empathy?

@@jnapier6484 Pls see response to Casey if ur interested. No point in repeating myself. If you have morals, ethics, and empathy, there's really no argument to be made here. Wrongs not visited on you doesn't provide clearance to do more wrongs. But that's again, if you have morals, ethics and empathy which is sadly, lacking in ppl clearly as your response shows lol. Anywho, enjoy your day ppl I've said enough here.

My gr gr grandfather fought in the civil war. He was born in the 1840's. You're saying that man on the cover was born 140 years before that? I don't think they had cameras in the year 1700.

@@woodspirit98 no the picture was taken in the mid 1800s. What can I say going back through my ancestry most of my grandparents had kids before they were 16. Most having kids at the age of 13. Simply look at the most recent news worthy article so you can understand, a Kentucky family had 6 generations in one picture last year and the oldest woman was born in 1927.

" A must-read for every American wondering why it took so long to tame Texas" You're not being exactly accurate here. What you should have written was "why it took so long to steal the land and enslave the original inhabitants" Let's keep it real. Greedy white people wanted land and would do anything, including genocide if it came to that, to get it. Just be honest.

That is how nature works. Competitors are not tolerated.

That was a major feature of Manifest Destiny. "God approves what we're doing, because we WON!"

Excellent point

@@gfdthree1 Thanks buddy! I read about "might = right" from the book "The once and future king" (It's like an old school fantasy book about King Arthur and Sir Lancelot. Explains how king Arthur created the knights of the round table to bring goodness to strength) It is an extremely good book 👍

It still applies today

I love that movie

"Lords of the plains"

eliminator173 lord of the plains.

@Lucas Cruz oooo someone is edgy

That part is golden Cracks me up everytime

We must be related then, my family was descended her, also. The John Wayne movie, The Searchers was about her kidnapping et cet.

More of an indentured servant until they could understand and speak Comanche, then they weren't slaves anymore.

@@noconaroubideaux9423 WOW....they would let them go once they learned their language? Well that seems down right magnanimous of the Commanches. They seemed like a very tolerant bunch. "John Parker was pinned to the ground, he was scalped and his genitals ripped off. Then he was killed. Granny Parker was stripped and fixed to the earth with a lance driven through her flesh. Several warriors raped her while she screamed. ‘Silas Parker’s wife Lucy fled through the gate with her four small children. But the Comanche overtook them near the river. They threw her and the four children over their horses to take them as captives.’ So intimidating was Comanche cruelty, almost all raids by Indians were blamed on them. Texans, Mexicans and other Indians living in the region all developed a particular dread of the full moon - still known as a ‘Comanche Moon’ in Texas - because that was when the Comanche came for cattle, horses and captives. They were infamous for their inventive tortures, and women were usually in charge of the torture process. The Comanche roasted captive American and Mexican soldiers to death over open fires. Others were castrated and scalped while alive. The most agonising Comanche tortures included burying captives up to the chin and cutting off their eyelids so their eyes were seared by the burning sun before they starved to death. Contemporary accounts also describe them staking out male captives spread-eagled and naked over a red-ant bed. Sometimes this was done after excising the victim’s private parts, putting them in his mouth and then sewing his lips together. One band sewed up captives in untanned leather and left them out in the sun. The green rawhide would slowly shrink and squeeze the prisoner to death. T R Fehrenbach quotes a Spanish account that has Comanche torturing Tonkawa Indian captives by burning their hands and feet until the nerves in them were destroyed, then amputating these extremities and starting the fire treatment again on the fresh wounds. Scalped alive, the Tonkawas had their tongues torn out to stop the screaming." - www.amren.com/news/2013/08/the-real-life-tontos-how-comanche-indians-butchered-babies-roasted-enemies-alive-and-would-ride-1000-miles-to-wipe-out-one-family/

@@Hidden_Lizard You forgot the part where one of the Parker children, Cynthia Ann Parker, was adopted and married one of the most powerful war leaders and her son was the last, and only, chief of the entire tribe, Quanah Parker. If you're just gonna use sources who had a vested interest in making us look like boogiemen then all your gonna find is shit that makes us look like boogiemen.

@@noconaroubideaux9423 What about all the multitude of white captives who eagerly went back to white society at the first chance they had to be free of the Commanches? I'm a realist, not trying to hide the sins of those who came before us. Unlike you, I recognize that white settlers commited wide scale atrocities and I recognize that indigenous Indians did so also and I don't attempt to water that history down. Show me some historical accounts of how the settlers murdered and tortured Indians and I'll believe it. Those things were just too common back then to be able to credibly deny they happened. You could fill volumes of books chronicling the tortures that everyone was inflicting on each other through all of history. Commanches or any other native people weren't morally above that any more than Europeans were. Your ancestors did some horrible things to others same as mine did (even tho mine didn't have anything to do with the westward expansion of the United States, they're guilty of other atrocities) and the sooner you fully admit that without attempting to cover for them the better off all of us will be able to deal with each other in the future. I don't hate modern day native people for what their ancestors did, I just hate attempts to pretend they never did it. And I also hate that TV show Vikings for the same reason because they tried to gloss over the whole raping and sex slave aspect of their history.

@@Hidden_Lizard See, but you might not disregard white atrocities when they happen but you don't recognize the political reality. You mentioned the Parker Ranch raid but what you don't know is that the Parker Ranch was located in our treaty territory and we were promised that white people would not be allowed to cross over our territory, let alone settle there. You didn't mention the few attempts that we made to ask them to move before the raid happened. The fact of the matter is the Texas government sold land to the Parker family that wasn't theirs to sale and our only recourse was to attack the ranch. This was a common practice because governments would use settlers and other people who moved to the area as buffers to prevent us from going further south and the results were usually what happened at the Parker ranch. Rarely did white captives ever make it back to their settlements. If they did want to go back, it wasn't known because they wouldn't know the language to be able to understand how to get back. The ones who did end up back were usually the result of attacks on Comanche villages and they were usually gone for a short period of time so they didn't learn how shit worked to develop relationships in the tribe that were deeper than the parents they were given to. You say you just want history to be portrayed correctly. Well, there were captives and there were wars and we were very good at war and when we were at war we were very brutal to our enemies. There were some Comanches who were just dicks in general. However, when we were not at war with someone or had no reason to attack them, we valued trade more than anything since our primary resource was bison and you can't survive on that diet alone. That means we needed intercultural relationships and their maintenance more than we needed war. So when you talk about history without these political context, you talk about them incorrectly because you see actions without context. This was a common practice in media and in government documents in order to persuade others to help attack us and other tribes. Anything you find in Texas history is gonna be embellished because, during the Republic days, Texas had a vested interest in getting the US government involved in these conflicts. Thats why the destruction of Linneville is in papers and government reports but the fact that it was in direct retaliation for the Council House fight isn't. Were we some perfect people? Nah. But we were as just as any civilized nation at the time attempted to pretend to be and thats the point.

seems like Comanche were like Mongolians

Really? Sounds like an interesting read.

Me too. I picked this book up years ago in a newsstand as an airplane read, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Coincidentally, I was flying weekly to Austin TX for work-- the heart of Comanche territory. When I got to Austin that week, I got a ride from a talkative cab driver who said said unprompted that he was a descendant of Comanches. I was a little stunned by that.

@@Ananaspomidorka that's exactly what I gathered as I read it. Can you imagine how things would have gone , had they had the equal firepower?!?

@@Ananaspomidorka You hit the nail on the head. Both were small people but on horseback they are 7 feet tall and weigh 1400 pounds or more.

I sold all my amazon stocks when i found out they censor books

I read half and kinda got bored with it, maybe I I'll pick it up again from the halfway point , with all this enthusiasm

it definitely wont be available on the bullshit lefty bbc boook club

Just finished the audio book version a few days ago. Loved it! Will definitely listen to it again!

Available now

Kevin Costner Bought the Mount Rushmore Land out from the Sioux Local Clans, after the movie, and decided to sell it to the U.S. Government, instead of to those Sioux Clans. Nice move hell-yb-ich boi !

Yes agree.

I am Lakota (sioux). It was the Lakota that were being represented. Tatanka is Lakota for buffalo. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. It was the Sue that was the last stand. After they went to the West Coast they circled back to the plains to fight the Lakota. With Crazy Horse and the great Sioux War 1870s 1880s

@@Truth3737 right, for the movie. But evidently the book was based on the Comanche.

@@Bob-lw2kt if this is true, Costner is a complete asswipe! How DUMB is he??

Link Wray...nice reference

That movie is dope as hell

Or F Troop

I always think of John Wayne and Natalie Wood.

Well Link was a Shawnee, great Native musician!

The unfortunate reality is that most of these depictions along with historical accounts, including the information you have gained for your degree in, are tainted with what is the white narrative, which is why they get a whole week and after 500 years are finally acknowledging Columbus as the monster Natives always new he was. So native history as told by whites, are more often than not.. the justification or obfuscation of genocide.

That is a despicable shame, I honestly could hurl, advanced placement 😕 U.S. History, barely teaching Native History, 😳 not to be rude, but even though you encourage your students (and you need to encourage all students, not just the Native, to seek the truth.) don't you feel like a tool for an evil entity? It's terrible 😞 because you know you know better.

@@sayittomyfaceortapglassfar4392 Get over it. There's only a limited time they have to teach students. You can sum it up in one week easily. We conquered and took the land just as the indians had done to each other for thousands of years. We just won. Didn't you hear they killed babies and the native americans were a culture of raiding. They should appreciate how well we did it.

@@sayittomyfaceortapglassfar4392 the United States is a evil entity the Comanche had the write approach to white colonists if we all fought like the Comanche it would be been much better

Skimming the top, that's what he said am i right indians?

should've said "hold my poppy" lol

@@jsjones418 I once knew a woman in Washington, who grew her own poppies and self-medicated. She never became an opium addict.

lol

we Dutch fought Spain for 80 years..and won ;)

Babies in the womb...DOH

its nice this book is finally getting some recognition. It's been out for years, and I always gift it to people for xmas or birthdays.

He is an author - www.amazon.com/Retail-Apocalypse-Death-Malls-Retailers-ebook/dp/B07RV2FCMG

Yes! I've written a book titled Retail Apocalypse; The Death of Malls, Retailers & Jobs

@@SuperDevanney Thank you!

@@michaelrichardson7666 There's so much great information out there. It's hard to discover it sometimes with all the mainstream content we are inundated with.

Joe doesn’t like true native history he likes Eurocentric bs

Is the favorite song of your tribe, The Eagles - 'Witchay Woman'? :P

Ok

Fax

Lol you mean Africans were selling other Africans. I don't think hardly any one of them were considered African Americans in that point in time.

@@idunnodoyou You are correct. I just caught that myself.

African Americans didn't sell other African Americans. Africans sold Africans before there was even an America. And the Europeans and Portuguese were already on there way so to survive a little longer some African tribes sold their conquered enemies to gain favor with the colonizers and slave traders. I love you ppl's abridged history and all the subsequental comments just eating up the foolishness

Great series

Best “shit kickers” ever!

Great read. The whole Lonesome Dove series

Yeah they were badass. They scared everyone even other Native tribes. They thought they were ghost because you never saw them coming.

They excelled at attacking at night, something no other tribes or Calvary would do-this is why the book has that title. Comanches were the only Native American society that was an entirely a military society.

@@007ElSenor The Comanche may have been the only entirely military society in North America, but not sure about the whole Continent. The Caribs were a complete warrior society (although more brute and less strategic). Raisng males from age four into the combative way of life. The Aztecs were also a complete military society, relying on their big warrior class for Expansion and Ritual Props (i.e humans for sacrifice). They perfected the Art of Battlefield Capture in order to later kill their adversaries in an elaborate ritual. (Therefore deeming it very clumsy to kill on the battlefield). The Comanche were definitely the Top Dogs of the Plains. Experts in their craft and Beloved Brothers.

@@anthonym4706 North America is the whole continent, though?

@@H41030v3rki110ny0u Most Natives consider the western hemisphere as it's own continent mainly because the land was connected prior to the panama canal, the Natives had contact with eachother, and the Natives were of the same race due to the isolation from the rest of the world.

They teach whatever the political establishment wants them to teach.

You cant scare the kiddies

The commies have been playing the long game since the late 40s. It’s just getting worse. Don’t worry. They’re not going to win.

@@RyanDarling5280 can you elaborate?

@@nix3001 Christopher Columbus....

Your mom's really deep.

Where did you do time, bro?

@@jimmymcnulty5079 Colorado.

@Mason 22 I wouldn’t know about common. But I do know that there isn’t much to do in there. But books help a lot

@@LuisFlores-kz1tg whaa the book called

As it was commonly said back then, 'There's no lower form of white man than a Texan.'

@@lecutter9382 Oh come on, troll. KZhead says your hate is good to go. Wouldn't let me post what I really want to say to a person like you. Seriously.

Mike Maolucci Great fucking book.

Greatest book since Moby Dick imo

Mike Maolucci hardcore western

The judge

My favourite Cormac McCarthy book

Facts, an act of selective suppression. When people talk about natives they talk like we only exist in some fairytale world. They dont know, because they dont actually care

@adamtheyankee my nigga trolling hard

Exactly. This man disavows tnousands of years of oral knowledge passed down among Native people because it doesnt fit the standards of Western Science. A shame because if you want to get to know the Comanche you should talk to actual Comanche

@adamtheyankee my nigga still in the comments section trolling like fuck to sow negativity somewhere else bud

Well, in the context they are talking about... those natives don't really exist no more. The modern Comanche is not the same type as the Comanche from then. It's the same as colonials or settlers, they don't really exist the same way as back then, that's why they are talked about as historical figures. I can see why and where you might get upset though, but also take into account the fact that it was a different experience back then as to now.

Yes... I literally threw this book in the trash b4 halfway through.. I couldn't take it.. I am native American (Ojibwe and oneida) plains not Southwest... I am not an excuser saying Comanche didn't do stuff... I am not going to listen or read some white guy claim to be this expert and write from such a European pov.. using language that is offensive and racist... there are native writers, read them

@@dillond4709 Nah. People should read all POVs in their pure raw form.. not sugar coated for modern feelings sake.

@@dillond4709 Thats what happens when we have to live in a country full of closet racists who never realized they were racist in the first place. I feel if there was more self awareness in the world itd be a much better place compared to how it is now.

@@savagendn961 Yup just like you! You honestly think you can stop racism with racism? Hmmm! I'm a brown man maybe I should be racist towards you to make it even.

@@dillond4709 You say white man so broadly it blows my mind, also your hatred for Europeans is way too broad.... my ancestors remained in Cymru and didn't even touch "American" soil. If you can say "I'm not saying the Comanche didn't do stuff" as justice for the horrid things that took place, then I will use the same sentence with the word "Europeans" at the end of it. Grow up and stop pretending to understand what any of our ancestors been through, especially taking sides on the matter... pressure on both sides forced horrific things to happen.

And also making all of these obvious comments about it going the other way

That sounds like a hell of a Dad Like Mine

I dont think people sugar coat it. I think the lack of historical knowledge is the problem. It's sad but people just arent aware of history despite what their school history books tell them. It's good for basic history but the violence is not allowed to be written in because of most school policies.

@@giovannilazzarotto5032 I think there is Giovanni only because when speak in frank truths about potentially sensitive things it makes them nervous, because they know they're walking in a minefield. Theres many subjects that this applies to and I'm not saying it's any one persons fault, it's the system. However, it's a weakness that our society has. Weakness among sharing ideas and communication. Which are two very important things.

@@kevinbryant4741 That's a very solid point.

@Chaos Undivided What do you base this response on? Lack of knowledge on any topic could be considered ignorance since we live in the information age. I'm just basing my answer as an educator who is allotted 30 minutes a day to teach History/Geography or Civics( I have to pick only one) because school districts find testing in ELA and Math more important. Kids may find they like it but they arent getting exposed to it.

@Chaos Undivided Agreeed!!!!!! Only the true smart man. Woke man. Can see the truths. Read between the lines.

He was Crow not Comanche that’s why he refers to Qunnah Parker as the last Comanche war cheif

@@D0nnyy oof I didn’t even think about that

Quanah was the son of PETA Nocona and Cynthia Ann Parker Nocona was a Comanche Chief you’re probably aware

You can make movies

The first adult book I read as a kid was Ride the Wind, which was a well researched novel based on her life. She was a reknowned medicine woman and the only wife of a chief- an honor to her that he took no ther wives.

@@jw70478 Wow that's really interesting. Did it say anything about her feelings about being kidnapped/if she ever tried or wanted to escape?

@@seth8933 No. Her history seems to show that she was completely taken in and accepted into the culture- and considered herself one of them. The author balances her story against other young women who were treated as slaves- so it isn't just a romantic ideal. In the story, it was said that Quanna was named by his mother. It means Little Flower or something like that. As a young man it was customary to go on a vision quest and return with a new name for oneself. In the book it was said that he came back and said that he would keep the name his mother gave him.

Don’t be stupid!

Or exciting.

They were disgusting people.

I am Comanche 😬

Jesus fuck, that's brutal

@@blubberywhale9247 they were people.

@@russellmorrow8385 I think he just means all groups have done things like this at some point in history

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you must of had a shitty school lol

@@jesseclaborn749 i remember all this from my required 7th grade Texas history class. Not only in school, but our history is instilled and taught to us.

American schools only teach the great white history and down plays every other minority. Indians did become cool until the 1940s big screen moves and even then they were the bad guys played by white people.

I am a Texan, born and raised and have lived here my whole life. Anybody that thinks that the true history of Texas and the Native Americans is taught in public schools is either ignorant or delusional.