How to Destroy an NBA Career: The Tragic Lonzo Ball Story
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Lonzo Ball's poor health stems from far more than what meets the eye.
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Chapters:
00:00 - The Hype Machine
03:21 - Workaholic
08:38 - Big Baller Brand Problems
12:24 - Team Training
14:24 - LA isn’t so fun after all
18:27 - New Orleans Roller coaster
20:04 - Fun in Chicago
21:10 - A Living Nightmare
23:21 - Will he ever be the same?
His career isn’t over. Lonzo when healthy is 100% better than Ben Simmons rn.
I'd say it is. He's had major injuries for 5 years now. You don't magically develop durability by aging further. He might land some small contracts but he wont ever make big money like his brother.
@@taylormalone1050 the main knock on his game skill wise was the shooting and he drastically changed that. Great defender, IQ, teammate, passer. And he was shooting an amazing percent from 3. He’s still young too, he’s not 29 or anything where it’ll end his career forever. Players have had major injuries multiple times and still made an impact. He is not Lamelo star level, but he can still be a borderline all star, a 3rd/4th best player on a contender. Look at draymond, or Simmons pre mental issues. These dudes are elite defenders and passers, and they have major appeal from teams just off that. Even when other parts of their game struggle. And Lonzo has proven he can be more than just a pass first defender, He evolved his scoring and aggression.
Not a high bar tbh
That’s not saying anything at all
NBA youtubers write off a dude that's literally 25 then act surprised when they bounce back
I have always felt sorry for him. His Dad put so much pressure on him and wearing those crappy shoes just ruined him.
Must suck for your dad to pimp you until you can't work anymore.
Same, but gotta say, the pool therapy instead of treadmill might have been the better option. Don't underestimate pool therapy for recovery.
Omg
@@slashismyhommie8182 I've got to imagine they were doing pool therapy, but just didn't film him doing it obviously.
@@Ashened0 you make it sound like some type of porno
This is what happens when parents try way too hard to live through their kids. I hope this guy is able to rebound soon.
got nothing to do wiht lavar, lonzo got a bad injury
@@marekfalk5369 NOGot EVERYTHING to do with lavar
Well without the dad he would never be in the nba
Huh, what? So you're saying that Lonzo's being injured is the fathers fault? Huh?
@@dtimms Yes the doctors told lonzo his bones look like that of a 84 year old manYou do understand lavar had less than $222.00 in his bank accountliving in a shit~house "Just look at old pictures when the boys were young"lavar worked his boys way to hardPS PLEASE DO NOT BE MAD AT ME FOR TELLING YOU THE TRUTH
I actually feel so bad for this dude. His crazy father pushing the brand so hard the guy had to change shoes because they’d rip. It’s like fancy star level abuse. Not much different from the horses they make pull carts around New York City. I just hope the dude is happy
He and his brothers were overrated and trash from the beginning. LaMelo made the all star game like 2-4 years ago, no? And that was HILARIOUS...goes to show you how repulsive the NBA is now. These boys were bench warmers at best, and their loud-mouthed, T.H.UG father did't help
dont feel bad. lamelo was dehydrated before his last injury
Wtf....that's the most odd comparison and not even the same. You're tripping.
His father got him to the league
That was just during the summer league when he had to change shoes, that wasn't for the actual NBA season.
Can we talk about how whenever Lonzo gets injured, his team suddenly starts losing. It really shows how important and impactful he is to winning.
I'm pretty sure everyone knows how special Lonzo is, the main problem is that ankle and if he can't recover than that's a problem
Other than the Bulls, that has never happened in his other teams. He got injured at the same time as LeBron or BI. In the Bulls it was Caruso and DeMar too
@@AlexandreG yeah no shit, lonzo was a rookie in the lakers lmfao
Bro how can u say his career is over? U made a whole video on how his "Tragic" career and he's 26 years old
@@AlexandreG it happened his 2nd season, when bron came to the lakers
Great video. Lonzo had so much hype and controversy behind him, but when it all died down you could see he was a humble hard working kid. Hope he finds a way to have a fruitful career.
He's good at the things he does.
He's an elite all around role player
Fully agree
only goat lavar can teach him how to play basketball
Good kid. I hope he has a great life.
Lavar is the one responsible , not knowing anything about training , he literally miss trained and over worked lonzo while he was developing and growing. Also nutrition is also a big part when you are being trained as hard as he was training these kids. It is crazy how Lavar has now disappeared.
No, it's not Lavar's fault. It's everyone else's fault.
@@johnhernandez3134Neva Lost
Lavar did a fantastic job with his sons. People are haters and don't like to see black fathers this involved and shaking up the established system where white coaches and agents and financial advisors use these kids up until they are discarded.
This is a common thing in Chicago with the medical staff rushing rehab. We've seen it in D Rose, Jimmy, Caruso, Lavine list goes on
D Rose is such a tragedy
Despite the influence of his father, who I think is a self-absorbed, greedy, presumptuous narcissist, Lonzo seems to be a very genuine guy. His potential is undeniable, and I hope that he'll come back and be able to fulfill it.
true, but as I have said for years. Inside every "prodigy" is a pre teen wondering why thier dad makes them play/practice 40 hours a week.
@@joshuapatrick682 what's wild is that playing that much isn't really detrimental to a person's health, IF under the right mindset and proper coaching i can only imagine when the opposite is true and it's a forceful routine
How is he self absorbed? I've never seen someone promote their kids so much and encourage them to reach their full potential like Lavar Ball
@@thatzatz If you can't see that he's a self-centered, self-absorbed narcissist and that he loves himself more than everyone else, you should evaluate what else you aren't able to see, bro.
@@justifiabledoubtso true he is really a bad guy and bad father i just wished every parents was bad parents like him then no kids would have been broke , homeless , criminal , drug addicts and every kids would lead a healthy life , no bad habits , rich as f,ck , it would have destroyed all the kids if everyone had a bad father like lavar ball .
When I was in HS football, our coaches constantly encouraged us to be involved in a winter or spring sport, and practically everyone did. Some did basketball, some did wrestling, some did baseball, and the rest of us did track & field. I remember always reading about great players in each sport starring in other sports in high school, and they didn't specialize until college or even professional. That's why I feel better that Giannis also played soccer when he was younger, so he didn't just focus on basketball.
I agree with the principle but in this modern era that just Isnt going to cut it anymore. When Danny Ainge or Bo Jackson were killing it in multiple sports you didnt have 10 year old kids working with kiniesiologists, strength coaches, and studying the sport 5 hours a day. The line for success is so slim when you get serious you need to focus almost exclusively on your sport I box and now coach, it is a little different because so much more is involved in success and you cant spar hard 7 days a week so i encourage my guys to do different things like chess or what usually happens is video games, to keep their reflexes and mind sharp. But hockey, basketball or a QB, etc. Those real fined tuned specialty sports and positions need devotion
@@thegadflygang5381 the goal isn’t to be a jack of all trades in 3 different sports, it’s to have one main sport that you are most invested in and play other sports on the side to train other parts of your mind and muscles and let them recover. also you absolutely can still find success playing multiple sports growing up. patrick mahomes played football, baseball, and basketball growing up, and hes now already a top 10 quarterback in nba history in 6 seasons. lebron played multiple sports and he became the consensus second greatest NBA player ever. when kids only focus on one sport, their health is put in jeopardy, and their skills in their sport become more narrow. playing another sport on the side will improve skills in your main sport. patrick mahomes is able to throw so far and accurately because of his baseball experience. mahomes is able to make amazing split second plays because of the fast pace of basketball. playing multiple sports also keeps kids from burnout on their main sport, which leads them to cut corners in training and leads them to even quit altogether.
@@bingusenjoyer197 imma put Mahomes at 11. Kevin Love is a much better nba quarterback
That's a good idea I did that in middle school I decided to run track when basketball season was done...gave them both up in high school though...
Great advice. I meant it. It takes da pressure off from concentrating on one sport!
When you see the deformities caused to nba players' feet by years of balling, you immediately realize how critical is the shoe for the correct support of the whole body. Pity for Lonzo, I hope he recovers somehow.
Stephen Curry notoriously dealt with ankle injuries for the first several years of his career. Here's to hoping Zo can work his way back to an incredible career!!! Rooting for him all the way
Twisted ankles not severe knee injuries
@@leob4403 true, but still hoping Lonzo can make a comeback
you Lonzo fanboys are absolutely delusional. He has done nothing for any of the 3 organizations he's played for and you still compare him to Steph Curry
@@Nazisarelame bruh I never said he was Steph Curry I said hopefully he can make a come back from injury 😂
The fuck is "Zo"?
My coach use to always tell us to chill out, take some days off… Don’t over train it could back fire on you. Every last person he’s coached that went pro had long careers. No injuries. And he coached quite a few
Your coach sounds like a lazy guy
That sounds like David Goggins, he’s always preaching “days off” 😂😂
He didn't over train!!! HE TURN HIS KNEE! What are you people talking about!? Injuries happen!
u right after a work out 48 h pause. we are not machines we are humans.
@@ronaldwashington1495 oh boy. u know how often he burdened his knee in the past? u ever heard of overload knees?
Man, I feel bad for the kid. Great player surrounded by greedy people. That sneaker ruined his health.
Yup!!
He was just as greedy as anyone !
hes doing way better than anyone youll probably ever meet. save the feelings for someone who needs it.
He good this is more than a Lil premature
He done his dad ruined him hope his dad stays away from Mello please stay away from him
This is why I always say you should do auxiliary sports in the offseason of your main sport to both keep in shape and round out your muscles and flexibility.
Actually really good documentary/recap of his career. Didnt expect to enjoy watching this for 27 minutes without realizing time passing by so fast. You did a great job.
He seems like such a polite and respectful kid, it sucks to see him hurt all the time, he doesn’t deserve that.
@ user-cn7k5pf6k, he is not a kid......
@@j109joell he's a quitter
Also he can improve. For example steve nash who became borderline allstar at 6th year but really blossomed after he turned 30. He was bit hyped tho
@@j109joell he is a kid to people over 30
At least he’s getting millions for it
Lets be real the dude has solid career averages 12, 6 & 6 and made 70 million so far in his career. Players rookie contracts are based on draft position, almost certainly his dad made him more money by tricking the league into drafting him way higher than he should have gone. If he wasn't training 5 days a week since age 12 he probably doesn't make the league. Even if he retired tomorrow he already made 70 million and never has to work another day in his life.
He won in the game of life but his career isn't worth the mention
@@emjay1249 ' nah if you saw him on the bulls before the injury he was up to something. And his defense is VERY underrated
@@revanthmunnangi5319 yeah honestly idk how his career is tragic. Sure in Los Angeles he wasn't great, but in Chicago he's been pretty decent. His defense looked fantastic.
remember that a lot of that 70mil was and is going to health fees, trainers, and especially health fees.
Are you Lonzo's accountant?
This is crazy I had one broken arm and it impacted me a lot I can only imagine how much all these could effect his game especially as a top tier athlete
I kind of feel bad for Lonzo. He had to be getting a ton of pressure form his pops to wear the BBB shoes and he knew he couldn't play in them and that they were trash but if he didn't wear them it would probably create problems with Lavar. Tough spot to be in. Wish him the best.
When my son was in HS the trainer would tell me why basketball players get hurt more often than football players because the training and playing they do. She said the worst thing you can do to your body is play basketball year round. Especially going from the gym to the outside courts, concrete courts fuck up your knees and ankles because there’s no bounce/cushion like in the gym. Plus your body needs time to recover. She said in HS it’s best to play multiple sports so your muscles can adapt.
no the worst thing you can do to your body is do what I do year round, these guys legs would literally snap hour one
@@castlechris what do you do?
Their dysfunctional dad had everything to do with their success and their injuries. He sacrificed his sons health in exchange for money and fame. Yea two of them are millionaires and the thirds a bust, but will be limping well into their 40’s and up. I’m sure they would not change a thing in exchange for the cheddar 😂
@@SC-mw2yc Without their "dysfunctional" dad they wouldn't be where they are. You seem like a hater you'll trade your life for theirs anyday
@@roxjaw2895 …yea, broken down bodies and such. I wouldn’t trade anything to live as a Ball family member, money and all bru….
Mmm if I remember correctly, Curry went through a lot of ankle issues the first like two or three years of his career. I think Lonzo should ask for better trainers or hire a personal trainer to work on his issues. His career isn’t over, but it definitely has been set back by the injuries. Derrick Rose is still playing even after all those knee injuries… I doubt lonzo will just retire
Steph Curry also had the most 30 point games by any rookie since Lebron James, it’s not comparable
@@qualicumjack3906 not comparing the two in terms of talent just comparing the two in situation… just saying if curry gave up after consistent injury after three years, we wouldn’t have had the greatest shooter to ever exist. Not saying lonzo would become an all time great, but he is at the very least, a solid, high iq point guard. He should continue to find ways to correct things like curry did.
Problem is Lonzo seems to have a lot of issues when it comes to injuries. Currys issue were only the ankles so way easier to fix. Pretty sure he played/plays with ankle supports and his shoe line also helps him with that. Lonzo has had multiple injuries in different areas so its way harder to solve
@@lucasrego3874 For the most part, Lonzo has either had ankle or knee injuries. At the beginning of his time in the league, it was a few ankle tweaks and more recently it’s been knee injuries
@Bigdic Daddy2 Stupid name, stupid take. Everyone doesn't have to be a scorer to be a successful player. Rondo comes to mind. Lonzo is a high IQ, pass first PG with great defensive ability. a perfect formula for career longevity minus injury issues.
Damn, dude loves his old man to no end. So sad that due to his unconditional love, and ultimately loyalty to his father, it cost him the NBA career he worked so hard for and rightfully deserved without all the unfortunate circumstances.
His father is the only reason he got into the NBA. The disrespect on Lavar is crazy. None of them have to play BBALL if they don’t want. They all got money. They pick this life
Lonzo made plenty of money to last for generations. Stop hating on Lavar for hyping him up before the draft.
Idk, old school nba players played in Chuck Taylors and they seem to be fine
I always didn’t like his dad because he seemed more greedy than “rooting for his children’s success”. This just certifies it to me. Kid deserved better
Yeah Lonzo paid the biggest price for his pops cash grab clown act. He is ok though got a nice contract and on a team that with the right coach might make a playoff run.
None of these comments are based on factual medical reports, instead criticized Mr Lavar Ball. Mr Lavar is a brilliant business man; Mr Lavsr Ball need to revisit basketball league in Africa. LaMelo Ball is presently rehabbing an injury. Aedin
He was a Trump-era con man-- make as much noise as you can, skim profits, screw the future.
ok Lavar 🤣@@aedinquinn8687
I can really see him aside from his father, he was no arrogance or shouting for attention when things were going his way. His father did that part for him, but I'm impressed when he finally manned up and tell his father to shut it. I hope he recovers and don't end up as the what-ifs.
Wtf are you talking about?!
His career is far from over. He’s one of the best defenders in the league when healthy
@@realamerican8069 people say anything these days lol
@@realamerican8069 ???
I don't think he told Lavar to shut up. Lavar himself may have stopped, cause he is smart enough to know, that he did his part. He helped his boys get extra attention to add to their phenomenal playing. Now, since they're in the league, they can let their game do the talking. And even if Lonzo told him to do so, Lavar still listened and did it. Cause he understood To, and as I mentioned ahead, he knows he did his part.
The whole BBB situation and Lavar Ball in 2018 was a fever dream. It was one of the most entertaining things coming out of the the NBA.
Man I always loved to watch Lonzo highlight reels back in the day it blew my mind how good he was I hate when players get injured bad and it ruins their career I hope he can return somehow
His dad created issues for him. Painted a target on his back and put way too much pressure on him.
when the lakers traded him away- the real plus was they got rid of the old man, too
You got that right. His father was a training tyrant. He wanted his boys to do what he couldn't
Lavar really did put a major target on Lonzo’s back. Magic Johnson too. Remember Magic pointing and saying his Jersey will be in the rafters. he hadnt even played a single game yet. That amount of pressure is insane and was flat out unnecessary.
How much is Nike paying you to spread these lies about BBB?!?! Mr. Ball has a legit shoe that ALL professional players should be wearing!!!
I would also love to know what a sports medicine doctor or pediatrician thinks about young kids on that training program? And it was concrete? Plus I just noticed it looks like he has knee braces on in college or high school? WTF
He still got time and i hope it turns around. People genuinely want to see him succeed
No one cares. Hes rich for being average.
@@tomhearns143 i kinda care, i watched the entire video 😂
No they don’t
@@tomhearns143💯💯💯💯💯
@@CalebKing3 no one cares
There’s a good lesson to learn from this. No matter family or not, good intentions or bad intentions, you have to learn to say no. Saying no doesn’t mean you can’t support your families and their dreams, but not at the sake of your gifts God have bestowed upon you
Nearly every player in the NBA was a workaholic from a young age and has been training since they were a toddler. Especially the legacy players. I think that wear and tear is only an issue for some, not all.
The difference was they tried different sports throughout their youth. Different sport = using different muscles groups so less wear and tear in comparison
It all depends on the style you play with and obviously genetics, everyones built different. A player who drives to the basket alot is going to be a ton more injury prone than a pure 3-pt shooter or mid range shooter.
Beautiful. Not enough channels talk about the strain players get put through before they ever get into the nba
Youth basketball is full of parasites who take advantage of kids
He and his brothers were overrated and trash from the beginning. LaMelo made the all star game like 2-4 years ago, no? And that was HILARIOUS...goes to show you how repulsive the NBA is now. These boys were bench warmers at best, and their loud-mouthed, T.H.UG father did't help
I think his dad knew he had bad knees and tried to sell before anyone knew I remember him saying his son was basically damaged goods back when Zo was in HS
He said that the year he got hurt in his second season
holy shit guys its the mma fighter james johnson
He said that during the 3rd Season of the NBA when he said Zo was damaged goods after a fight over the brand during the Alan situation
His dad speaks too much and also knows too much. 😂😂😂
Yup. His brothers were trained likely same way. Shoes might have played a part in assisting injuries but he was already slightly damaged in the past before nba
Who passes up Nike?
Working out before a kid is physically ready actually does more damage. I wasn't allowed to touch weights until about 15 or 16
As a Bulls fan I never thought i'd see the day dylandoesbasketball makes a video on Lonzo
i really feel for lonzo. he seems like a good kid who just wants to play basketball, and you never hear him getting into any mess (aside from his dad). growing up with a dad like that set him up for failure bc he really didn’t have a choice w/ any or the BBB stuff, and it clearly proved to be a mistake. hope he can get healthy again and show everything he has to offer.
his Dad brought him up to be a NBA player wtf are you talking about
You “really feel for” a professional athlete who has already made over $70,000,000 ? He should be feeling for you 😐
Set him up for failure? Lol he never would've even been in the nBa without him neither would his brother they're all multi millionaires ..I think they'll be fine
@@CruddyDave bruh, no shit. the point is - you see ur kids talents and you craft it from the shadows/or let them figure out bc if they cant on their own then its already over in the long run. Lamelo didnt see just 1 star brother, but two. Why tf do u think it was a lil easier(just like all younger siblings) for him to grow
@@sdprecords6599 writing paragraphs on youtube…go get a job
Your content is truly incredible. Ive never cared about basketball like that, besides playing it, because I felt like there was too much history/lore and id never catch up. The way you combile information from through the years and package it in a way i can understand and appreciate is dope
Anyone else notice that man and his impact on the game...1st seed then he gets hurt in Chicago..and even LA..they were playoff bound..🙏..
Normally kids play various sports. But Longo and his brothers played exclusively basketball due to their dad's NBA ambition. So physically their wear and tear is significant, which can account for their constant injuries.
Thanks Doc
💯 Aside from mental fatigue of hyper-focusing on 1 sport, recent study found multi-sport players seem to have fewer injuries when pros.
@@gr8dvd ....also, I coached youth teams in baseball, soccer and basketball. The multiple sports athletes excelled at high level in high school.
they dont lift which is why they are injured
Maybe, but they wouldn't be in the NBA without it.
i feel sorry for him, its a very entertaining to watch him play, his ceiling is just so high, the offensive capability and creativity, the defensive intensity he brings. i hope he makes a speedy recovery and be a superstar.
Why u feel sorry....Lonzo chilling until he can come back smh
What are you guys talking about? He’s injured! His career isn’t over! His production is very high level when on the floor!
@@keyon11000 you p.
@@Blake-ld7mx they kids bruh they don’t actually watch espn or get they info from official sources they get their info from KZhead if KZhead say it’s a lie or it’s the truth that’s what they go off of until they see with their own eyes KZhead is lying to them
Hopefully he can do that somewhere the fuck else because everyone wants him off the Bulls. He seems like a nice enough person, he's not an asshole or a guy with off the court problems, but everyone in Chicago is tired of his bum ass on our team.
I wish he can stay healthy. Chicago was the best situation for him & he had great chemistry with Derozan & Lavine
My dad is 6'1", my mom is like 5'6" and I'm 6'5". Lonzos mom looks 6'5" and his dad like 6'6"
Lonzo is solid, he was just forced to play off ball with Lebron. But he’s got his shot looking for fluid and his defense next to Caruso was great
Lonzo was the pg while with the Lakers even with LeBron there
@@chulo9454 ya but they ran the offense through bron, lonzo wasn't given the freedom in LA that he had in Chicago
This One Hurts As A Lonzo Fan 💔
Fr he gone shake back tho
@@silverspadelord I Hope So Because Lower Body Injuries Scare Me For Basketball Players
its not alotta us but all three of us are rooting for him. u wont believe how happy i was as a bulls fan when we got him AND caruso. i knew he was ready to show what he could do and then the knee. as a bulls fan u wont believe how terrified i am about his future 😪
Nigga you knew his career was gonna fail soon as his dad with the shit stain tooth was talking wild about curry and Michael Jordan.🤦🏿
@@ninety1nethagawd make that 4 of us
Take a year off, stick to meal plan and occasional workouts to keep body in shape. He has gotta let his body normalize after such massive surgerys. This is also an issue with many other players, it takes MONTHS for your body to fully heal ankle and knee injuries because of the level of stres they undergo especially on a professional sports level. A career is worth waiting a year for if you still have 10-12 years in the league MINIMUM.
I just feel bad for a lot of these athletes and artists. You can tell that a lot of them don't have that type of emotional bond with their families or their coaches AKA parents. It is really sad to see
His effect on his team is so apparent, even here they are lit up with joy just interacting or scoring a pass from him. Shit's beautiful. They are really having fun out there.
I feel bad for Lonzo having to deal with the issues he has going on right now and i remember his daddy calling him "damaged goods". Hopefully he'll rebound from this.
LOL typical NOG behavior Style over keeping your fucking ankles healthy
That's pretty disgusting 😕
His dad is a disgusting POS
Their father is such a a disgusting human being that doesn't deserve a dime he's making off exploiting his kids
His daddy called him damaged goods, in order to stress the importance of having your own. That went over weaker people's head.
Man I remember that short stint when the lakers were good wit lonzo😢 u jus brought back forgotten memories
Great video as always
it is pretty amazing he can actually adjust his shooting,, this is very very hard to do, takes a LOT of effort, mentally and physically. Despite his family, he is actually a very likable person, this is just sad
I had the same bone bruise,meniscus injury. I did stem cell and I feel great
Lonzo and Markelle in college as the outro photo and the music are just perfect together
Daaaaang!! This was a tough one! Lonzo a beast when healthy. His blind allegiance to his dads BBB shoes was his downfall that’s crazy
Honestly Lonzo a good dude and a great player. I hate to see him get injured often.
They are perfecting their dunks at an early age ‘trying to be like Mike’ giving tremendous impact on their knees. Then developing muscles too powerful for their tendons and ligaments putting an emphasis on an air game instead of a floor game
Another aspect is the fact that he lands on his heels, often on one leg, similar to what Derrick Rose does also made him injury prone
Yeah, i mean if the guy was holding on to the rim for a couple of secs then dropping he would have much less impact on his legs.
I only know of the Ball family from their dad's antics I'm not a huge basketball fan. I assumed he was an overrated player but watching this showed me different and even made me root for his future in the NBA. Hope he gets healthy enough to play again
Nobody cares goofy
@@chrispbacon6810 ???
@@tburgzkta stop being gay
@@chrispbacon6810 🤦🏾♂️ You Ain't Go No Business Using The Word "Goofy"
@@DC_R I was wondering when his boyfriend would come to the rescue
Its always a good day when Dylan posts.
NBA version of the Von Erich brothers
His time in Chicago was looking really promising, they were he most exciting team to watch.
You couldn't have foreseen it when making this but at 1:18 you mention the all-star level talent and Markkanen deserves to be considered a top 5-6 player of this class currently. He's really exploded onto the scene
Those Chino Hills highlights are legendary to this day.
LaMelo’s injuries are right on par with Lonzo’s.
It is safe to say 5 days a week for 7 years mile run up a hill & the hill was paved w concrete.. I think that played the biggest role in the lower body issues… then again melo has been in full health..
Nope, Melo out with season ending injury
I tell people this all the time that we tend to think of injuries as “unlucky”. Which they partly are because me and my little brother lived the same lives yet he’s more injury prone, but also a style of play like Derrick rose is something that is hard to produce for countless years. Yes you played ball all day everyday since you were 3, but maybe that’s why your body is giving out in ur mid 20s. Yes maybe you go to the gym after games but maybe that’s why you body never gets time to heal. Maybe you’re the best person on the ball but it’s because you never put time in the gym. In soccer my team is currently super injury prone because the style of play we played was so much running that it won us a lot of trophies And games but it’s starting to catch up the players. In summary injuries aren’t solely based off luck. To be a great athlete you also have to plan how to be great without burning out. But I pray for Lonzo though
Contactless injuries due to wear and tear are usually much harder to recover from. This is also why, even though hockey is a more physical game than basketball while also having a 82 games, hockey players are usually able to play for longer and be good for longer compared to basketball players due to the fact they might suffer more injuries like cuts and bruises but the act of skating is not as harsh on their knees or legs as basketball players
@jokerofmorocco the types of injuries from jumping and landing wrong are also pretty serious
@@jokerofmorocco also racket sports have a huge advantage in that there are no collision injuries
Wow, I played baseball, football & basketball through my youth so I guess why injuries never derailed me
I'm a lifelong Laker fan and I always liked Lonzo. He was a bad shooter as a rookie and barely decent his second year, but he was very good at literally everything else (passing, defense, rebounding, general game awareness) and he's one of the best outlet passers of all time, right up there with Bird, Kevin Love, and D Wade. He also seems like a nice kid; probably too quiet for LA, but the sort of dude I love to root for. I really hope he gets better. I think he's a legit all star if he's healthy.
He was a bust. He averaged 12 points a game, never won, and we had to listen to clowns like you compare him to all time greats. What clown generation.
@@smyzo He isn't a bust. He's an excellent player who has to listen to morons like you who only understand "Man who make ball go in best player!!1! All other players bad!" You're the kind of "old timer" who thinks Stephon Marbury is a better player than Jason Kidd because he scored more, that Robert Horry is an all-time great because he won 7 rings, and that Theo Ratliff was a worthless bust because he only averaged 7.2 points per game. I'm so glad people like you are getting aged out of the game. It's a fun sport when we don't have to deal with you.
@@jgray2718 Nah, he’s a bust. He’s was supposed to be a franchise player, he’s a role player who never made the playoffs. That’s a bust.
@@smyzoyou don’t know what a role player is. you are ignorant
@@lilsyrupp5989 OK but I know what a bust is.
Get well soon Lonzo, that's all we hope. He was the reason, I started loving Basketball so I wish he could stay healthy.
Just hurt. It happens. Bill Walton off top of my head is greatest player to miss out due to injuries. Penny Hardaway. Zion is having injury issues, too. Hopefully, injuries won't ruin Lonzos' future playing days. Dad has no bearing on this at all.
Grant Hill, Larry Johnson, Brandon Roy, the list goes on.
Penny Hardaway had his career robbed by injuries. He was fantastic before he got hurt.
So depressing. I'm praying for him.
High tops protect your ankle, when the ankle gets injured your leverage starts affecting other joints start weakening joints working leverage against other parts of your body! Great athlete and skills but must use leverage wisely and bad shoes can break the best athlete! I bought some shoes on sale from a sports name and in one workout had problems with my feet from then on! I liked the shoes just they were too thin on the soles so my feet hit the floor too hard like not having shoes on at all.
it's like D-Rose over and over and over, with every athlete. Damn, the world is getting too fast, the collective body and mental of all people is showing
Damn the absolute disrespect on Derek Rose😂. The man actually has skill and an mvp
It was his trash shoes. He needed professional training. Proper body mechanics is key to staying injury free
His dumbass dad putting $$$ over his son's long term health by ignoring Nike and Adidas's decades of shoe research, player feedback, a wide range of sports performance shoe data, teams of expert sports shoe designers and engineers, and millions of dollars to fund it all is ridiculous. What a clown.
It’s quality of food we eat nothing else. Food is not as nutritious now then 50 years ago. People Don’t eat well at all. It’s now an addiction and foods loaded with preservatives and chemicals
I'm a physical therapist and based on what I've seen this father put his kids through, there's no question there's more wear and tear on the bodies of his sons. In effect, they have the mileage of an athlete about 10 years older.
Yes. His father bares significant responsibility for set him up to wear out.
What have you seen him put his kids through?
@@chrisreid4711 They haven't seen nothing. Just want to blame the father...cause, he makes it easy to do.
nah, a lot of basketball players started playing since elementary school. I don't think it's just wear and tear for them. I doubt they have the same wear and tear as say Lebron who went to 8 straight final appearances and played 20 seasons as the main facilitator and scorer of every single game.
also i would take those "i started playing since 2" stories coming from Lavar Ball as a grain of salt. That guy exaggerates everything he says.
Hoping for Zo to get a resurgence sometime soon in his career 🙏🏽 I was a fan and it’s tough to see this. Especially someone who was a “local celeb” in my area.
I'm from Chicago so Bulls fan here, I'm hoping Derrick Rose can help Zo figure out how to stay healthy. Rose has found some way to stay in the league for many more years despite having many similar injuries to Zo.
@@halbouma6720 I can def see Zo still making an impact, his defense is great and his shot has improved tremendously since his Laker years! DRose can def help him out especially the day to day stuff and mental toughness to push through It
Honestly never been a fan because of his dad but I did see him single handedly destroy a really good Oregon team in one half when Oregon was up by 20. He made it to the nba, so did his bro. They’re talented, made lots of money. Everything wrong with lonzo is his dad. But his dad also got them to the nba….. it’s all about balance or extreme imbalance, all depends what you want in life
LaVar was a role player that waited for a moment to become a star. He couldn't do it on the court himself, but boy did he stretch out his fifteen minutes off the back of his way more talented sons. His sons got the talent, were humble, and looked to be pretty marketable. Unfortunately they allowed their loudmouth father use them to market his terrible shoes, and speak for them.
oh wow....he pushed his sons so hard they're now both multi-multi-multi-millionaires and are set for life before they turn 25.
He's just that great of a player, teams will still want him to play. He's an all around great kid with a team spirit. Get well soon Lonzo, we want to see you back out there.
The best ability is availability Unless he makes a recovery soon, he’s done
This just hurts. I always had faith in him.
great video sir.
He’s an amazing 3 and D guard who also has the court vision and play making of an elite guard, his only problem is scoring but at this point if he never adds that he’s still an incredibly solid starting guard in the league for contending teams
Jason Kidd was not a good shooter for most of his career. Later in his career, he developed a 3-pt shot.
I can believe the OVER WORKING OUT ANGLE, all that playing AAU ALL DAY ALL SUMMER, is hurting these young players, you made some great points and now LaMelo Ball is also having these ankle issues, Great Video!
And a lot of them dudes wearing Kobe sneakers too I wonder if that’s the cause
@@amancalledhawk5575 FACTS, I've always said those low top shoes 👟 are the reason, I don't know why Anthony Davis wears them, everytime he turns a ankle it's in Kobe's, our Coaches back in the day made us get durable high tops
Bruh Melo rarely gets injured calm down, he sprained his ankle and was forced to return early which he rolled it on someone’s foot it’s not like his injuries are worrisome
He really had no ceiling. Seems like everything that could have gone wrong, did. Now a historic what if in basketball
22:15 Lavar said parts of the truth when trying to blame others for a situation likely caused by him, consciousness is poetic
This really opened my eyes. I thought you had to train that hard as a teenager to even be considered for the NBA. And I thought that cardio work outs like what Lonzo did would improve your condition. I didn’t think it would actually make things worse for you in the long run. Curious to know what type of training Tatum, Mitchell, and Fox did cuz they’re healthy most of the time
Intensity, rest, recuperation and biochemical efficiency and safety are very important factors that professional trainers prioritize. As opposed to bro dad workouts combined with what they did "back in the day" which are more likely lead to injuries. Fox has been plagued by a minimum one 4-8week injury since his rookie yr. Tatum's trainer is Drew Hanlen, he says last year they concentrated on bulking him up while this summer they concentrate on strenght and flexibility. dont kniw about Mitchell.
If he didn't do all that work out...do you think we would have heard about him or would it have gotten him this far? Nope big ups to his dad made the NBA nearly 100 million and now hos kid brother doing highly well and part of the nex big thing in this generation...
@@vlada It is the specialization that is the problem.....same routines year after year........it isn't the "back in the day".....because honestly I don't remember so many guys missing games to injury in all of the major sports. A good example of variety is Walter Payton....he ran track, played the drums and was in the marching band long before he ever started playing football....didn't start till he was a jr in high school......the guy missed one game his whole career and took a beating and dished out beatings running behind crappy offensive lines for half of his career........running backs now are lucky if they last 5 or 6 yrs. Olajuwon would be another great example.
I don't think training at a young age has anything to do with it. It's more about programming your workouts to allow for sufficient recovery. If you don't allow your body to sufficiently recover from workouts or if your workout routine methods are bad, you run into a higher risk for injury. Working out shouldn't be about running your body to the ground but more about slowly progressing your workouts at a comfortable pace to what your body can handle.
You need to train like a mad man to make the NBA.
As a life long Bulls fan I would love to see him at full strength with this team. He clearly was coming into his own and showed what he could do. He's already been ruled out for a return this season and they are looking for a comeback next year. But I'm afraid he might be done. To much wear and tear and to many surgeries.
He and his brothers were overrated and trash from the beginning. LaMelo made the all star game like 2-4 years ago, no? And that was HILARIOUS...goes to show you how repulsive the NBA is now. These boys were bench warmers at best, and their loud-mouthed, T.H.UG father did't help
This new guys that played ludicrous amount of basketball from young age is gonna have obviously advance wear and tear to their body upon entering the NBA. I bet lonzo and zion have more damage to their body upon entering the NBA than players like curry and lebron had when they first entered
Matt Barnes talked about this very thing. He said that’s why he doesn’t pressure/push his sons right now because by the time these kids get the pros they’re already fragile for injury.
This was excellently well thought out. The sneakers can amplify long term chronic issues. Also the touch on the volume of work from a young age (specialization) should be talked about much more. It’s like anything in America when money is involved. Sport turns into a industrial complex where health, and long term durability is sacrificed. Best ability is availability.
The specialization aspect might be new to basketball but baseball has been dealing with it for a couple decades now. It's why there are mandated pitch counts in little league and stuff like that now.
This was terribly thought out. Blaming his injuries on playing when he was 2, as if all kids aren't running around. And all that running up the hill and doing pull-ups, etc. will only improve your strength and conditioning, not wear you down. What broke him is the injuries he sustained while wearing those crappy shoes and his body's subsequent snail-like recovery time, which can only be genetic.
@@kropking lets face it.. elite players in the past and present played other sports heavily as they were growing up.. jordan, lebron, Iverson, Kobe all were competitive multi-sport athletes as they were growing up... scientific studies has shown cross training and not playing a single sport entire year prevents over use and also develop motor skills not commonly used in that singlular sport.. Even kobe pointed out to Derozen how useful it was to use soccer footwork to develop those muscles and movements that one doesn't develop normally in basketball.. Quite likely Lonzo has overuse injuries and lack of balance in the body with other muscles is causing him to break down faster than the typical NBA player...
@@Mellowyellow8888 I never argued against that. Developing skills in multiple disciplines is absolutely beneficial not only to the body but the mind as well. I'm talking about the narrator's absurd theory that Lonzo was set up to fail by "playing basketball" at age 2, even though no 2-year-old can even play basketball. He was INTRODUCED to basketball at age 2. Big difference. And how do you know he never played other sports? Maybe not competitively, but how many weekends in the park were he and his brothers playing football? Baseball? Soccer? After all, Lavar was a football player. You think he didn't teach his sons about that game, too? Plus, all the different sports we play as kids in P.E. at school. I guarantee you those crappy shoes messed him up, but that doesn't mean he can't recover. I tore ligaments in BOTH of my ankles when I was a teenager and I recovered fully from both and never lost a step. I'm 42 now working labor in a warehouse and I still run circles around everyone else including all the youngsters. Lonzo will be fine. His body seems like the type to recover more slowly than average, but he will be back.
@@kropking the shoes are just a minor factor, the issue here is overtraining and not sufficient recovery, also lonzo is too thin and not bulky enough
He’s basically already been ruled out for 23-24 man. This is not good. I truly hope he can play again, I hope he can play again next season and be 100%. But it’s not looking great. It’s incredibly unfortunate because he was so good. Like the perfect complimentary guard next to basically anyone. Passing, unselfish, smart, great defender especially on ball, size, and a knockdown C&S 3P shooter. So many more. This dude was gonna make hundreds of millions of dollars and have a very very long career. He’s already gtd to make $113M, but I’m talking WAYYYY more than that. Just sucks. As a bball fan, he was awesome to watch. I always root for these guys to do well. Beyond that I hope if bball isn’t in his future, he can at least be healthy in his every day life. Bc right now the reports are downright scary.
Seems like his dad was living his own dream through him. poor kid
As a lakers hater, I always loved Lavar Ball’s shenanigans and drama with the Lakers. Present day I appreciate him as a father and I hope to mirror his work with sons.
Ew probably a Celtics fan
Didn’t you just watch the video? The father is the primary reason lonzo aint balling rn
Maybe he is a good father, I’m not gonna judge him on that, but god damn is he obnoxious.
nice satire lmao
You appreciate a father who took control of his eldest sons career and torpedoed it? Everyone hated Lonzo because of his father. Lavar also tried to force his 2nd son into the NBA even though it was obvious he was not cut out for the NBA.
dude, till this day the markelle fultz thing still messes with my head. Like how the hell did he forget to shoot. It's gotta be the biggest anamoly I've ever seen in sports.
Pressure.
It drives me crazy. I don’t know all the details, but I have the condition Fultz has dealt with. I was never a college prospect but I was damn good at basketball and could shoot very well. Since that condition happened my shooting percentage cut in half. Sometimes worse. This was not purely a mental thing. It’s the trauma of a brachial plexus injury.
every NBA player started young this is why they are so good they play more because they are gifted the more you play the more get hurt if you dont play that much you dont get hurt
I broke both of my ankles at once just walking down the street wearing those damn BBB's 😡.
Man I feel terrible for the guy, I really hope he gets healthy and is able to have a successful rest of his career that is injury free.
And you hope he disowns his father too right ????
@@stevehorton7524 no why tf would someone hope for that???
@@jamivish3378 cause that's how y'all are.
He and his brothers were overrated and trash from the beginning. LaMelo made the all star game like 2-4 years ago, no? And that was HILARIOUS...goes to show you how repulsive the NBA is now. These boys were bench warmers at best, and their loud-mouthed, T.H.UG father did't help
His career is over his father killed him with those crappy sneakers
Listen I was the same as Lonzo sometimes kids need to learn when to stop listening to the parents.
How?
What about the Bulls when they rushed him back? It's not ONLY the parents. Sometimes kids need to learn that nobody knows you better than yourself and it's better to listen to everyone, but then making the big calls yourself.
@@laurocoman was it the bulls that forced him to play 2 years in shoes that kept breaking every quarter or was it the fact that he wouldn't disobey his father 🤡
@@unitempt7975 how what
Bro u are slow