Why Is There Only One Species of Human? - Robin May

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We are the only human species on the planet today. But for most of our history we have not been alone.
Fossil and genetic evidence has revealed a diverse and fascinating set of human-like species, from Neanderthals to Denisovans, to Homo Floresiensis (The Hobbit) and more.
We’ll meet many of them in this lecture, investigate why they died out and reveal why some of them are much closer relatives than you might think.
This lecture was recorded by Robin May on 10th January 2024 at Barnard's Inn Hall, London
Robin is Gresham Professor of Physic.
He is also Chief Scientific Adviser at the Food Standards Agency (FSA) and Professor of Infectious Disease at the University of Birmingham.
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  • Robin May appeared on the latest episode of our podcast 'Any Further Questions?' to answer all the questions we didn't have time to get to. Listen on Spotify and Apple now!

    @GreshamCollege@GreshamCollege3 ай бұрын
    • you forgot the anunnaki dna influence 8 percent of human dna is ALIEN The human genome contains billions of pieces of information and around 22,000 genes, but not all of it is, strictly speaking, human. Eight percent of our DNA consists of remnants of ancient viruses, and another 40 percent is made up of repetitive strings of genetic letters that is also thought to have a viral origin.

      @robinwolstenholme6377@robinwolstenholme63773 ай бұрын
    • Because the Women (Egalitarians') Forced 60% of Male genetic diversity in humanity over history of the species not reproduce. 3 factors separate the ability to reproduce. Genius level Intelligence, Status in Community, & Lack of Wealth.

      @Invisibility397@Invisibility3973 ай бұрын
    • only one species of human? Tell that to anybody who's grown up with a life "enriched" by an abundance of subsaharan africans

      @knuthamsun6106@knuthamsun61063 ай бұрын
    • humans themselves are a race. the species is called Lyrian.

      @THEUNFOLDING-@THEUNFOLDING-3 ай бұрын
    • Answer this: If evolution is how humans were created, then why is there such a large gap between the "human" intelligence and "animal" intelligence. WHERE are the other super intelligent creatures on Earth that man evolved from or evolved with? Looking at evolution as a column of beings from the simplest to the most intelligent, there is a thick "band" of creatures at or near the bottom of the column that fill every niche of this planet, most with dozens of varieties. Then there is a semi-intelligent GAP in the column with NO creatures AT ALL, then there is only ONE human being creature at the top of the column filling the higher intelligence band. This does not fit the Theory of Evolution! There should be many creatures filling the semi-intelligent band and several filling the higher band. I have a dozen other questions that PROVE that EVOLUTION is a THEORY only and NOT FACT, and it should be TAUGHT as such! We are SEPERATE from every other SPECIES on the planet, that does NOT fit the Theory!

      @mjbfortrump8269@mjbfortrump82693 ай бұрын
  • What I really love in these science based presentations is that they always say..."maybe", "perhaps", "based on current knowledge".......and so on, unlike some others who claim to know everything, here and now. You know what I mean. ; )

    @oldtimer7635@oldtimer76353 ай бұрын
    • Maybe. With my current knowledge then perhaps.

      @briankelly1240@briankelly12403 ай бұрын
    • @@briankelly1240 The point is.....OUR (science community) knowledge, not mine.

      @oldtimer7635@oldtimer76353 ай бұрын
    • Have to agree there, science is about learning more and changes according to the best evidence. If new information arises, hypotheses and theories may change.

      @shawnwales696@shawnwales6963 ай бұрын
    • Okay Old Timer, let me tell you about the scientific process. First, you observe a thing, then study the thing, create a hypothesis about the thing, create an experiment for the thing, observe the thing again and again. Then after doing this dozens of hundreds of times, a new way to measure or extract data, and you have to repeat the processes in multiple ways across several scientific communities. Then those brain people meet up and concur on a general consensus on the topic until new data is available. So on, and so on. Forever.

      @payla8308@payla83083 ай бұрын
    • Just plausible deniability. The reality is: At least four distinct species of human evolved in Europe. That means, African and European humans are different species.

      @machinebeard1639@machinebeard16393 ай бұрын
  • Fst is as high as .46 between Mbuti and New Guineans which is staggering considering the distinction between two different species like Coyotes and Red Wolves is only .08- .1. It seems a lot of animal 'species' should actually be reclassified as belonging to the same species if we use the same universal standard for judgment. Edit: In fact, after doing some more research, domestic cattle (bos taurus) and buffalo (bison bison) are even more closely genetically related (Fst of at most .368) than those two human groups, even though they aren't even classified as the same genus let alone the same species. Something seems to be screwy with our classification system.

    @kekeke8988@kekeke89883 ай бұрын
    • Or different humans classified as different species

      @jessethomas9676@jessethomas96762 ай бұрын
    • No, the second criteria was to be able to produce viable young. Can Coyotes and red wolves do that?

      @zir3ael811@zir3ael8112 ай бұрын
    • ​@@zir3ael811of course they can. Lots of coyote Wolf hybrids.

      @lacky9320@lacky93202 ай бұрын
    • Can the cayote wolf hybrids then breed, is the point, if they can produce offspring that is verile, then same species, if the offspring is infertile, then differnt species@@lacky9320

      @MrBoboiscool@MrBoboiscool2 ай бұрын
    • @@zir3ael811 an alternative would be donkeys and horses producing mules - overwhelmingly infertile unless paired with another horse or donkey

      @threatened2024@threatened20242 ай бұрын
  • We ate the competition.

    @hihellokitty85@hihellokitty853 ай бұрын
    • I originally thought you meant hate the opposition but lol ate is very true!

      @lucdelhaize4029@lucdelhaize40292 ай бұрын
    • *We f-ed the competition. Both figuratively and VERY literally

      @luissemedo3597@luissemedo35972 ай бұрын
    • 😂😂😂😂

      @blackrose8643@blackrose86432 ай бұрын
    • *we refused to recognise human speciation because it's politically incorrect

      @peterhoulihan9766@peterhoulihan97662 ай бұрын
    • Ok Dr. Ford.

      @cybat1078@cybat10782 ай бұрын
  • I do have a question about the categorisation of species. You noted that there are different species of butterflies that look very similar but are different species. Is that based on your definition of the same species reproducing together? The reason I ask is, do we know that these different species of butterfly can’t reproduce, or is it that they won’t reproduce, which I think are very different things. If they choose not to reproduce with each other but in actual fact could technically reproduce, would they then be the same species? I suppose it’s also very hard to tell because I’m assuming you can’t force two butterflies to reproduce with each other.

    @RAGEAlanBun@RAGEAlanBun3 ай бұрын
    • I’m assuming that due to them being classified as different species, I would assume that they are too genetically different to successfully reproduce even if they tried. And yes, if they could reproduce and yield genetically viable offspring (which are able to reproduce successfully) then they would be the same species. However it is also possible for the same species to begin to seperate through a change in mating behaviour. The key definition of a species diverging from the original group is when it is no longer capable of producing viable offspring which can successfully have children of their own. I am sorry if I worded this incoherently/ poorly. Hope this helps

      @jobamba8777@jobamba87772 ай бұрын
    • It’s not up to them most of the time whether they want to reproduce or not. There’s pre and post zygotic isolations that get in the way. Habitat, Behavior, Temporal, ect

      @NottKira@NottKira2 ай бұрын
    • Flutterby is a more accurate description than the margarinized butterfly.

      @dans9463@dans94632 ай бұрын
    • Butterflies capable but unwilling to reproduce become a separate specices. I am separate species to most women I've met. Makes sense actually.

      @mrburton8842@mrburton88422 ай бұрын
    • You should know that when you take your first college biology course you will learn about speciation. Speciation is an ambiguous and very broad subject in biology; you can classify species morphologically, phylogenically; biologically, etc. When it comes to humans all of these definitions are not very useful to us, there’s simply not enough differences between humans enough for a human sub-species to exist

      @esteban4284@esteban42842 ай бұрын
  • In my lifetime, there's been sp much advancement of knowledge on the evolution of our and other species. It's so humbling when someone finds a very distant "ancestor." We're always surprised, too. I find it delightful. Thank you for this great lecture. I love going to class. ❤

    @dalestaley5637@dalestaley56372 ай бұрын
  • Dogs and wolves have traditionally been considered separate species, but Alaskan huskies have been successfully interbred with wolves by native Alaskans for thousands of years.

    @ericlipps9459@ericlipps94592 ай бұрын
    • Dogs are Canis lupus familiaris, domesticated wolves.

      @freeheeler09@freeheeler092 ай бұрын
    • different sub-species not species

      @jorriffhdhtrsegg@jorriffhdhtrsegg2 ай бұрын
    • Wolf's are dogs.

      @malachycarson5846@malachycarson58462 ай бұрын
    • ​@@malachycarson5846Other way 'round.

      @DanielMWJ@DanielMWJАй бұрын
    • There are horse/zebra/donkey, bears, dolphins and cats that breed across species. The success rate falls off over time but it's not a sudden cutoff as soon as a species diverges

      @barryobrien1890@barryobrien1890Ай бұрын
  • I have ‘watched’ this video but realised it was one of those i played right before sleep. … but the title is actually interesting. So i will watch again, this time for real

    @sas534@sas534Ай бұрын
    • Zzzzzzzz

      @sabirrugunate1286@sabirrugunate128623 күн бұрын
  • 35:14 -- I think science is overlooking one potential reason why the Lion Man was created: Because it's really **cool.** Think about it. Imagine a twelve year-old boy living with his people on the grasslands of East Africa. "Bro, what if I had the head... of a **LION.** That would be so cool!"

    @JohnnyWishbone85@JohnnyWishbone852 ай бұрын
  • We say that all humans are a single species and some even go as far to say that the term "race" is just a construct that shouldn't be used anymore. But when we classify other animal species we split them into separate species and sub species based on sometimes miniscule physical differences that have arisen through spacial isolation of individual groups.

    @ats-3693@ats-36933 ай бұрын
  • "The genetic difference between two very different humans is the same as the genetic difference between bonobos and chimpanzees. 0.4%" So if it wasn't for the requirement of 'species' to be able to interbreed we would be different species of humans today. Edit: Then again. Neanderthals were a different species but ancient humans interbred with them. It is all a little vague.

    @doodlePimp@doodlePimp3 ай бұрын
    • It's just a political definition. Chimps and bonobos are fully capable of interbreeding, but geographic barriers are significant enough to produce two distinct genetic groups. By that same standard, Africans in the Congo and the Inuit of Alaska (we assume) can successfully interbreed but are clearly separate enough geographically and genetically to be considered different subspecies. Simply put, for any animal species other than modern human, scientists just want the accolades that come with discovering a new species. Discovering a new species within modern humans however would be career suicide.

      @marshallscot@marshallscot3 ай бұрын
    • You have to be able to breed successfully and in restricted/exclusive group. Neanderthals didn't.

      @wecx2375@wecx23753 ай бұрын
    • Neanderthals were a separate species which successfully created hybrids that could interbreed with humans so I'm not sure what the issue is. Are you saying they had to create their own restricted/exclusive society of hybrids first before getting it on with humans? The definition of 'species' is purely biological so that's the only kind of grouping I'm interested in.@@wecx2375​

      @doodlePimp@doodlePimp3 ай бұрын
    • Humans want to put everything in nice neat, well defined boxes in an attempt to understand things but in terms of evolutionary biology the edges are blurred and overlap. You can't pinpoint the exact generation that one becomes another.

      @AlexLR@AlexLR3 ай бұрын
    • Different plant and animal species of the same genus interbreed with fertile hybrid offspring. The claim that infertile offspring defines a distinct species is rubbish, and curiously that "rule" seems to only apply to humans. The distinction is logically inconsistent.

      @stevet4573@stevet45733 ай бұрын
  • I love how he's so clear and humble at the same time.

    @theicyridge@theicyridge2 ай бұрын
  • Physically speaking there are at least 12 species of humans. As species of elephants there are three. Check out other animal species, for we are just one of them.

    @colindiplock@colindiplock2 ай бұрын
  • "Why is there only one species of Human?" 1min 45 secs into the video..."We don't really know why." Thanks for not waiting until the end of the video to say that.

    @billskelley6895@billskelley68954 ай бұрын
    • We are the only human species because we never totally isolated ourselves into reproductively incompatible groups.

      @hypsyzygy506@hypsyzygy5064 ай бұрын
    • Because it's a lie. There are obviously multiple species of humans, but that would be wacist if you said that.

      @mosampson8862@mosampson88623 ай бұрын
    • @@mosampson8862 which two humans cant successfully reproduce?

      @world_musician@world_musician3 ай бұрын
    • @@mosampson8862 You don't know what species means.

      @freddyt55555@freddyt555553 ай бұрын
    • @@freddyt55555 "You don't know what species means." Maybe mosampson is the last one of his species. xD

      @fuselpeter5393@fuselpeter53933 ай бұрын
  • This is very interesting! Thanks for a great lecture, really fascinating!

    @AlvaInTheWorld@AlvaInTheWorld3 ай бұрын
  • It seems to me the human capacity for intentional travel has had the consequence of halting speciation which was already underway 100,000 years ago. I would guess if, as a thought experiment, geologically separate populations of humans were left to themselves on separate continents for another million years, some of those populations would not be regarded as recognizably human by the end of this epoch.

    @Stadsjaap@Stadsjaap2 ай бұрын
    • Not everywhere. There is an entire continent where people existed alone for 50,000 years. Earlier species have been found and carbon dated but they won't allow further research. I'm not sure but many ancient species evolved and later went extinct in that period. Even large mammals like the smilodon.

      @grannyannie2948@grannyannie294817 сағат бұрын
  • Very interesting and thorough, Thank you very much.

    @davidwillis5016@davidwillis50162 ай бұрын
  • I understand the question(s): why are the Denisovans, Neanderthals and Floriensians extinct? But, I don’t understand your more general question. “There is one species of humans” seems to be a tautology. Chimpanzees are like humans but are not human. Chinese, Europeans and Africans are different from one another but are all human. How could the situation be different? Could there be a species with human attributes (which?), with whom we could not interbreed? Although, the connection between “species” and the ability to interbreed is troublesome, since we could breed with Neanderthals and the others mentioned.

    @colingibson7324@colingibson73244 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for the your lecture Informative 😊

      @concettapalamaru401@concettapalamaru4014 ай бұрын
    • Only daughters of Neanderthal father and Sapiens mother survived, possible by genetic incompatibility. Chimpanzee with Human have chromosomal problem

      @globalcoupledances@globalcoupledances3 ай бұрын
    • I think the main difference is that we cannot interbreed with chimpanzees or any other species, except those who are already within our DNA such as Denisovans and Neanderthals. Since we absorbed their entire gene pool ages ago, there is no one left to breed with but others of our own species.

      @theophany150@theophany1503 ай бұрын
    • Read the full definition of species, please. It is not only the ability to interbreed, it is also the condition that they really do reproduce over a longer time. I assume when you look at this from a mathematical or evolutionary point of view, the main condition is that you have a certain stability over time.

      @xiyangyang1974@xiyangyang19743 ай бұрын
    • @@xiyangyang1974 By "stability" I assume you mean insular integrity of the gene pool? THAT is why we don't see these separate types of human today, isn't it?

      @theophany150@theophany1503 ай бұрын
  • thoroughly enjoyed that, thanks

    @sygad1@sygad13 ай бұрын
  • Odd that as broad as the human species is, a scientist can get a ladybug with an extra dot it’s own species.

    @blackhawk7r221@blackhawk7r2213 ай бұрын
    • It's because these relationships are often resolved genetically, not morphologically. Morphology complements genetics, but can be misleading alone.

      @screee5783@screee578329 күн бұрын
    • @@screee5783 And resolving confusion about human morphology using genetics will get your career as a scientist cut short.

      @AGW99-df3yg@AGW99-df3yg9 күн бұрын
    • @@screee5783 oh there is genetic difference, you just arent going to be told about it in the west. i say the west because some place like china this would be taken as obvious.

      @suzukisixk7@suzukisixk76 күн бұрын
    • We know there are genetic differences.

      @grannyannie2948@grannyannie294817 сағат бұрын
  • Wonderful presentation!!! I love this!!!! We have some interesting information on behavioral patterns of our extinct sister species. I wonder if we could look at if there is a relationship between some aspects of human diversity and our genetic heritage from those sister species? Such as do some neurodivergent people, like ASD people such as myself, have perhaps a higher percentage or a certain marker from our Neanderthal ancestors? I thinking this could be an interesting study for any relationship. I suspect, that we will find some interesting beneficial genes from our sister species that actually jumpstated cultural development and it is going to relate back to neurodivergent traits.

    @brendathompson473@brendathompson4733 ай бұрын
  • 45:55 Dogs (canis lupus familiaris) aren't "a single species", they are a sub-species of Gray Wolves (canis lupus lupus), they aren't genetically distinct enough to be their own species. The difference between a "dog" and a "wolf" is also purely semantic.

    @Planeet-Long@Planeet-Long3 ай бұрын
    • Dogs have been "demoted" from a separate species to a subspecies of _Canis lupus_ only fairly recently. And an observer from another planet would have a hard time recognizing a chihuahua and a Great Dane as belonging to the same species.

      @ericlipps9459@ericlipps94593 ай бұрын
    • And yet you can clearly distinct a chihuahua from a wolf. A lot of philogenical classification has been done in Darwin's and Linney's times way before we learned about the DNA, a lot of currently distinct species probably do not bare any significant genetical difference and should be considered one with local sub species, it just so happens that noone has yet tested and catalogued them.

      @Ant0nSunrise@Ant0nSunrise3 ай бұрын
    • @@ericlipps9459 To be fair, Chihuahuas and Great Danes are VERY artificially-bred breeds. If you compare a Street Dog/Mix-bred (Which make up most of the worlds dog population) skull to a Grey Wolf it's only slightly smaller with more neotenous features.

      @cro-magnoncarol4017@cro-magnoncarol40173 ай бұрын
    • Race is poorly defined, but breeds & 'sub-species' are often very carefully defined. I suspect it has something to do with ego, inbreeding, and immunology.

      @you2tooyou2too@you2tooyou2too3 ай бұрын
    • @@ericlipps9459Aliens wouldn’t consider Peter Dinklage as our species at first glance neither.

      @carlosandleon@carlosandleon3 ай бұрын
  • If species is defined by the ability to have viable offspring and modern humans have Neanderthal DNA, then wouldn’t that make Neanderthals the same species as humans?

    @truncatecar3429@truncatecar34293 ай бұрын
    • yea they dont even check their own logic. If a horse and a donkey have an offspring(mule) that mule can't reproduce because the horse and donkey are different species but same group Equidae. So human and neanderthals arent different because we are still here, we were able to reproduce. Neanderthals might just be mutant humans.

      @dataphoenix8004@dataphoenix80043 ай бұрын
    • No kid... we have parts of Neanderthal DNA and other sapiens...

      @redstarchrille@redstarchrille3 ай бұрын
    • @@redstarchrille go back to school and learn real science

      @dataphoenix8004@dataphoenix80043 ай бұрын
    • Yes. They are the same species.

      @bartholomewbaltech5622@bartholomewbaltech562228 күн бұрын
    • if you skip to 44.31 he speaks about this

      @sophiecadbury6813@sophiecadbury681324 күн бұрын
  • My friend suggested, coming down from trees, changing conditions, reaching up the thumb eventually fully stretched away from index finger, complete flexibility of hands, sounds reasonable, “ our destiny all in our hands “

    @SMMore-bf4yi@SMMore-bf4yi3 ай бұрын
  • Currently, humans are respeciated. Several times throughout history, several groups have, through natural barriers and seplf imposed restriction, have expeciated. Prior to the period of european exploration, it was very common for entire civilizations to be cut off from the rest of the world for centuries. The ability to hybridize and for those hybrid species to continue producing ofspring is how respeciation has occoured. Humans are, after all, just animals, so if we are to define speciation by specific clasification criteria, those same criteria also apply to humans.

    @suprizeoptomist4680@suprizeoptomist46803 ай бұрын
    • Answer this: If evolution is how humans were created, then why is there such a large gap between the "human" intelligence and "animal" intelligence. WHERE are the other super intelligent creatures on Earth that man evolved from or evolved with? Looking at evolution as a column of beings from the simplest to the most intelligent, there is a thick "band" of creatures at or near the bottom of the column that fill every niche of this planet, most with dozens of varieties. Then there is a semi-intelligent GAP in the column with NO creatures AT ALL, then there is only ONE human being creature at the top of the column filling the higher intelligence band. This does not fit the Theory of Evolution! There should be many creatures filling the semi-intelligent band and several filling the higher band. I have a dozen other questions that PROVE that EVOLUTION is a THEORY only and NOT FACT, and it should be TAUGHT as such! We are SEPERATE from every other SPECIES on the planet, that does NOT fit the Theory!

      @mjbfortrump8269@mjbfortrump82693 ай бұрын
  • I echo comments below by @bernard 2735. By the lecturer's own use of Mayr's biological species theory with his assumption that Sapiens successfully and often interbred with Neanderthals and Denisovans, it seems most logical to regard all three as members of a single species.

    @jrellis11@jrellis114 ай бұрын
    • A formation of a species is a long process and how much distinct two species are is a spectrum. In the early stages, interbreeding is still possible but increasingly uncommon and less and less likely to produce fertile offsprings. Later it moves to a theoretically possible and finally ends with actually impossible. Sometimes people talk about a much larger species with a lot of different subspecies within them. One interesting example of this are birds living around arctic circle, with populations capable of interbreeding with neighbouring populations but not with ones on the other side of this circle.

      @jirivegner3711@jirivegner37114 ай бұрын
    • Based on this video I am 100% certain I am not human because I have been unable to find any human that wants to procreate with me. They ask me occasionally, "Why are you like that?" ..but I have no clue what they mean... I'm definitely not a human if I can not secure mating partners for creation of offspring.

      @reasonerenlightened2456@reasonerenlightened24564 ай бұрын
    • @@jirivegner3711 Spectrum?.. bit of a loose-cannon word outside of the electromagnetic spectrum.

      @straighttalking2090@straighttalking20903 ай бұрын
    • ​@@straighttalking2090 they're literally just saying that the closer two species are to their branching point, the more likely interbreeding is successful. I don't even want to know what you're insinuating here.

      @radRadiolarian@radRadiolarian3 ай бұрын
    • sub species e.g wolf and dog or different species human and chimp or wolf and fox

      @jasonwithey@jasonwithey3 ай бұрын
  • I believe we are a hybrid. A hybrid made up of at least 8 other human speices. Some people have more or less dna of a speices than others which is why we have differnt colors and features.

    @k9thundra@k9thundra2 ай бұрын
    • Color is a gene modification as is immunity to certain diseases, height, eye color, finger length, weight etc etc. no 2 people except identical twins have the same genes. You are a hybrid of your siblings as they will get a different set of genes from your parents. You may have different skin tone, hair color size weight, balding etc. genes are complex and show a steady drift between people. It's arbitrary where the species line is drawn

      @barryobrien1890@barryobrien1890Ай бұрын
  • I absolutely LOVED that lecture. The subject is fascinating and Robin May is a really engaging presenter. I would definitely like to hear more from him. Loved it.

    @harrisonandrew@harrisonandrew2 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for a very interesting and informative lecture!

    @BonanzaRoad@BonanzaRoad4 ай бұрын
  • Arguably, there may be only "one species" of any species. It goes with the word. At the same time, biologists do recognize some subordinate levels of classification within a species, but they are commonly still considered one species. Designations such as subspecies, variant, and landrace all address recognizable variations within a particular population. The fact is that until a strange mix of racism and political correctness came along arguing that Neanderthals could not be H. sapiens, or that it was unfair not to regard Neanderthal as its own species, Neanderthal was often referred to as _H. sapiens neanderthalensis_, a subspecies of _H. sapiens_.

    @theeddorian@theeddorian3 ай бұрын
  • Really loved watching this video and learning more about evolution. Thank you and Robin May for the lecture and ability to watch it!

    @redredkrovy@redredkrovy3 ай бұрын
  • This was awesome. I love this format. Very informative and kept my attention. More like this please

    @christinaandre6286@christinaandre6286Ай бұрын
  • If we found a gracile skeleton of a person from Thailand, and the robust skeleton of an Australian Aboriginal would we conclude they were the same species? How can we be a different species from Neanderthals if we share a common ancestor and had fertile children? It strikes me that this is more of a political question than a scientific one.

    @hughoxford8735@hughoxford87353 ай бұрын
    • Exactly. There are plenty of species in nature that produce fertile offspring and are considered “different” species.

      @theastrogoth8624@theastrogoth86243 ай бұрын
    • @@theastrogoth8624: Name some.

      @hwgray@hwgray3 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, if we were intellectually honest we'd recognize at least human subspecies. In particular, african pygmy hunter gatherers clearly meet all the criteria for a subspecies compared to the rest of humanity. There is absolutly no scientific reason why Chimps and Bonobos should be considered "species", but we should pretend to see no variations in modern humans, except /politics/.

      @helixdq@helixdq3 ай бұрын
    • What you describe are variations within the same frame. And these can be used to identify the origin of a skull for example, but does not change the species.

      @sciencefliestothemoon2305@sciencefliestothemoon23053 ай бұрын
    • Baboons. All baboon species can interbreed and produce fertile offspring. @@hwgray

      @hughoxford8735@hughoxford87353 ай бұрын
  • Pretty cool info. Thanks for the lesson

    @japprivera3129@japprivera31293 ай бұрын
  • I would be curious of your thoughts of future human species when people get specialized for living on the moon and mars. Will our adaptation create separate species especially if radiation may play a dominate play in those that will live there.

    @matthewknobel6954@matthewknobel69543 ай бұрын
  • Very articulate, well spoken. An Absolutely outstanding communicator.

    @curtisshaw5965@curtisshaw59653 ай бұрын
    • Are you ABSOLUTELY certain of that? 🤨

      @SpiritualPsychotherapyServices@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices3 ай бұрын
  • It is said at around 30:00 that there is no evidence of sapiens slaying other species of humans. There is ample evidence of this phenomenon toward more distant species, going back tens of thousands of years, whenever sapiens arrives somewhere it acts as a factor of extinction toward other species. I don't see why the same wouldn't be true toward nearest cousins.

    @jazzad@jazzad3 ай бұрын
    • He talked about their DNA in modern humans, so they did not wipe them out by slaying them.

      @ioannisperiptero9626@ioannisperiptero96263 ай бұрын
    • @@ioannisperiptero9626no but it played a role, to claim any one thing is dumb.

      @Iceican@Iceican3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@IceicanBut there's no evidence that it did. He didn't say it didn't happen, but seeing as there is no evidence implies that if there were attacks on neanderthals, they weren't a common occurrence. Thus they were unlikely to be the driving factor of neanderthal extinction.

      @David-nh7px@David-nh7px3 ай бұрын
    • there is no DIRECT evidence if you have DIRECT evidence of this you should be sharing it NOW

      @markd.s.8625@markd.s.86253 ай бұрын
    • @@markd.s.8625 he says and many scientists have confirmed that we share their DNA what other evidence should they give?

      @ioannisperiptero9626@ioannisperiptero96263 ай бұрын
  • Whenever one of these lectures posts, I get a big grin on my face and figure out how to carve some time for great presentations and education. Can't wait for the next one!

    @susanjane4784@susanjane47844 ай бұрын
    • Based on this video I am 100% certain I am not human because I have been unable to find any human that wants to procreate with me. They ask me occasionally, "Why are you like that?" ..but I have no clue what they mean... I'm definitely not a human if I can not secure mating partners for creation of offspring.

      @reasonerenlightened2456@reasonerenlightened24564 ай бұрын
    • Watch Star Trek

      @timgibson3754@timgibson37543 ай бұрын
    • @@reasonerenlightened2456Why are you pretending breeding is the only goal of a species. If it were, homosexuality wouldn’t exist. It was more important before we were the dominant species, but with over eight billion people on the planet, it’s much more likely evolution has created more forms of natural birth control.

      @scottnelson9@scottnelson93 ай бұрын
    • The natives of Tierra del Fuego were probably thinking the same about Darwin.

      @helencheung2537@helencheung25373 ай бұрын
    • Answer this: If evolution is how humans were created, then why is there such a large gap between the "human" intelligence and "animal" intelligence. WHERE are the other super intelligent creatures on Earth that man evolved from or evolved with? Looking at evolution as a column of beings from the simplest to the most intelligent, there is a thick "band" of creatures at or near the bottom of the column that fill every niche of this planet, most with dozens of varieties. Then there is a semi-intelligent GAP in the column with NO creatures AT ALL, then there is only ONE human being creature at the top of the column filling the higher intelligence band. This does not fit the Theory of Evolution! There should be many creatures filling the semi-intelligent band and several filling the higher band. I have a dozen other questions that PROVE that EVOLUTION is a THEORY only and NOT FACT, and it should be TAUGHT as such! We are SEPERATE from every other SPECIES on the planet, that does NOT fit the Theory!

      @mjbfortrump8269@mjbfortrump82693 ай бұрын
  • I have a question for Dr. May. I am a Historian with a huge interest in Anthropology and Genetics. Your lecture is excellent! I wonder - what research is being done that might shed light on *when* Sapiens began to appear different from their other relatives? We have a bit of a basis for wondering of course - given that we can see the changes in horses over time as well and more recently, the domestic dog. Yes, I know this is selective, but have a look at films of London and NYC at the turn of the century and keep a keen eye on the dogs in the footage. You can see how we have brought about a rapid change in them , and I think that in a natural way, it must have clearly happened when we began to *realize* that we were different. I wonder if you have thoughts on what that might have looked like and when?

    @robertbluestein7800@robertbluestein78002 ай бұрын
  • How does one distinguish an interbred human (sapiens x denisovan, or sapiens x neanderthalensis) from a human from an intermediate evolutionary branch???

    @markshields9284@markshields92842 ай бұрын
  • As alluded to, defining a species is a complex task in biology and there are several factors that scientists consider when doing so. He mentioned some, but for those who might be interested (maybe you're watching this video to research for a paper or something) more such factors include, but surely aren't limited to: Morphological Characteristics: Physical traits such as size, shape, coloration, and other observable features. This traditional method of species identification relies on visual cues. Genetic Variation: Examination of genetic differences between individuals within a population or group. DNA analysis, particularly through techniques like DNA sequencing, can reveal genetic diversity and help distinguish between species. Reproductive Isolation: Species are often defined as groups of organisms that can interbreed and produce fertile offspring within their own group but cannot do so with individuals from other groups. This concept is known as the Biological Species Concept. Ecological Niche: The role an organism plays within its ecosystem, including its habitat, behavior, and interactions with other species. Species may occupy distinct ecological niches, which can contribute to their differentiation. Evolutionary History: Consideration of the evolutionary relationships between organisms, including their ancestry and the divergence of traits over time. This is often studied through methods like phylogenetics and cladistics. Geographic Distribution: The geographic range in which a species is found. Populations of the same species are often connected by a continuous distribution, although geographic barriers can lead to isolation and speciation. Behavioral Characteristics: Behavioral traits such as mating rituals, communication methods, and social structure can also play a role in defining species boundaries, especially in organisms where these behaviors are highly specific. Hybridization: Instances where individuals from different species interbreed and produce viable offspring can complicate species boundaries, especially in cases of recent divergence or ongoing gene flow. To conclude, these factors are often considered together and different species concepts may prioritize certain factors over others depending on the organisms being studied and the goals of the research. Additionally, the definition of a species is not always clear-cut and can vary depending on the context and the specific organisms involved.

    @GagnierA@GagnierA3 ай бұрын
    • @@worldsend69 It didn't come directly from a website, it's just some of the most common sense factors that are considered. There are definitely more though. It's funny to think that something seemingly so simple could get so complex in reality, but when you sit to think about it, lots of thought actually is required.

      @GagnierA@GagnierA3 ай бұрын
    • Many of those things indicate we are a different species, more than not.

      @benfubbs2432@benfubbs24323 ай бұрын
    • @@benfubbs2432 Well, yeah, obviously lol humans are definitely a different species from others. Not sure what you think you've discovered to say such a thing, but great! hahaha :)

      @GagnierA@GagnierA3 ай бұрын
    • @@GagnierA Those things you list would indicate some groups of humans are a different species to other groups of humans which contradicts the premise of the video. I'm not saying I made a discovery I am saying that your definition doesn't align with the premise of the video. Perhaps you could reconcile this?

      @benfubbs2432@benfubbs24323 ай бұрын
    • ​@@benfubbs2432 It's easy enough to reconcile by saying what I've already said in the closing statement (since I took the more formal route in case serious readers stumbled upon it)...and that is, it's an incomplete list. However, it can be debated that the different races of humans could be considered sub-species scientifically speaking. Much like there are different breeds of dogs and cats (and other animals/creatures), which are sub-species of those classifications in some cases, we aren't going to call different human types "breeds" or "pedigrees", or even "sub-classes" -- race is a polite term reserved for humans in replacement of that to be politically correct and compassionate. Even though we're all the same physiologically (while acknowledging injuries, accidents, surgical modifications or genetic abnormalities), things like skin color, hair color, environmental temperature tolerance/comfort, cultural differences, size variation and many other factors could all be considered points of classification. Instead, since we're human and politically correct in the words we use to describe each other, we call that demographics instead.

      @GagnierA@GagnierA3 ай бұрын
  • during the segment about sister species I'm wondering why if bonobos and chimps are considered different species then why wouldn't humans with the same genetic difference of 0.4% also be considered different species?

    @RustedZeus@RustedZeus3 ай бұрын
    • It's politics, not science. The same rule doesn't apply to any other life on the planet. Just look at the wildly different morphology between the bonobos and chimps and you can see they're different species. But compare a Finn or Swede to a pygmy in the Congo and everyone says they're identical. In Australia, the scientists tell us how all the species were so isolated for so long that they drifted apart from their nearest cousins. Everything, except the humans who spent eons there cut off from the rest of the world. The aborigines in Australia are the exact same species as the eskimos in Alaska and the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon rainforest and the herders in Tibet. How that happened.... is a mystery, but we're sure it happened.

      @threeriversforge1997@threeriversforge19973 ай бұрын
    • it's funny how they are only desperate to push this kind of neo-marxist dogma in predominantly European societies. almost as though they are the only ones not allowed to form in-group identity preferences.

      @deathsheadknight2137@deathsheadknight21373 ай бұрын
    • Because it’s not politically correct. But the fact is that either Chimps and Bonobos are the same species, or races of Humans aren’t.

      @theastrogoth8624@theastrogoth86243 ай бұрын
    • Easy. Can you mate and produce fertile offspring? If yes, you are the same species.

      @abumohandes4487@abumohandes44873 ай бұрын
    • @@theastrogoth8624 No, because that .1 - .4% difference in DNA occurs across all humans, regardless of population groups, so two Europeans could have a .4% difference, and a European and an African could have a .1% difference. It’s based on individual DNA, not groups of people.

      @alphariusomegon4819@alphariusomegon48193 ай бұрын
  • From the original definition of species in this video, surely you could make the argument that sub-species already exist through geographic separation of population centres throughout the majority of human history.

    @user-um2sy5kt6q@user-um2sy5kt6q3 ай бұрын
    • 275,000 years of isolation isn't enough to speciate apparently

      @notallowedtobehonest2539@notallowedtobehonest25393 ай бұрын
    • @@notallowedtobehonest2539 This is true, The modern human is very young, seen historicly

      @redstarchrille@redstarchrille3 ай бұрын
  • Some (native american) people have started to claim that indigenous Americans are not actually the same species and that they originated in North America, and not in Africa like the rest of us. Could you do a video evaluating their claims?

    @shooterrick1@shooterrick12 ай бұрын
    • no, he couldn't

      @laus9953@laus99532 ай бұрын
  • Great lecture. One thing confuses me though. Early on we choose a definition of species to use. One of the parts of that definition is no successful cross breeding. Yet later we discuss all the interbreeding between the sapiens, neanderthal, and denisovians. Am I missing something or does the second half of the lecture betray the choice of “best” definition of species?

    @chrisrourke8404@chrisrourke84043 ай бұрын
    • Nice to see someone was paying attention.

      @barkmaker@barkmaker3 ай бұрын
    • This is answered in the ‘Rethinking Species’ segment

      @saleelsalam2740@saleelsalam27403 ай бұрын
    • it's post-hoc justification

      @deathsheadknight2137@deathsheadknight21373 ай бұрын
    • @@saleelsalam2740 Thanks. I will rewatch because I missed that completely.

      @chrisrourke8404@chrisrourke84043 ай бұрын
    • You'll never get a straight answer from academics about the inconsistency between species definitions when applied to every other animal besides humans, for fear of mentioning the elephant in the room and getting canceled. It's all very vague and "safe" so they can keep their job and continue getting funding. We need more mature and brave academics who are able to explore the differences between human races without casting value judgments on the findings. Mature and brave, not "safe" and milquetoast lecturers playing with semantics and mental gymnastics to avoid the obvious.

      @HypnoticHarmonys@HypnoticHarmonys3 ай бұрын
  • There used to be many hominids. The ice ages caused mass movement towards the tropics and sub tropics multiple times which caused the hominids to interbreed and reach what we consider anatomically modern humans

    @chrisconnor8086@chrisconnor80863 ай бұрын
    • Yeah. This is what I was thinking the whole time and something I felt he was intentionally ignoring. There USED TO be several distinctly subspecies of Humans... then they all mixed together and we only have one species now.

      @marhawkman303@marhawkman3033 ай бұрын
    • But this is not true the first modern humans are the san people, they have no genes other other hominids. it seems Europeans and east Asian were already the way they are now, when they mix with other hominids. mixing with other hominids did not change them in any way because the hominids population was very small compare to modern humans.

      @jameswatson5807@jameswatson58072 ай бұрын
    • Do you have sources? I'm interested

      @Bunnidove@Bunnidove2 ай бұрын
    • @@Bunnidove what nonsense modern humans existed before the ice age, they wee in Africa but other hominids like neathandlal already existed. There is no physical evidenced of these being other, Europeans only have neathandlal genes.

      @jameswatson5807@jameswatson58072 ай бұрын
    • Unfortunately, that does not match the extensive DNA evidence that is known today.

      @davidb2206@davidb22062 ай бұрын
  • “I am quite conscious that my speculations run beyond the bounds of true science. It is a mere rag of an hypothesis with as many flaws and holes as sound parts.” -C. Darwin

    @refuse2bdcvd324@refuse2bdcvd3247 күн бұрын
  • Great presentation with substance and amazing clarity. Thank you!

    @mansouralipour-fard1438@mansouralipour-fard14386 күн бұрын
  • It's very simple, species is not a fact, instead it's a poorly defined notion based on skeletons which are snap-shots of human development in time and space! In point of fact EVERY human IS an intermediate form, and each individual IS a separate species!! What we call our species is merely the cluster of these individual sub-species who could hypothetically breed with one another! Species did not magically succeed one another, one dying off and another magically appearing, the newer were the previous population's offspring!!

    @rstevewarmorycom@rstevewarmorycom4 ай бұрын
  • But if they were interbreeding, doesn't that mean we aren't distinct species?

    @austinmackell9286@austinmackell92863 ай бұрын
    • It takes more then one gene from a parent to form a child...

      @redstarchrille@redstarchrille3 ай бұрын
  • I would be interested in how the four blood types fit in with the evolution and the migration. The blood type AB is said to be started as less than 1000 yrs ago. Thanks..

    @glentoll3696@glentoll36963 ай бұрын
    • There’s a book published called “Eat Right for Your Blood Type” which has a theory of blood type migration, backed by data. Because of this book I believe humans are like butterflies. There are distinct differences between blood types, however, those differences are barely noticed until you understand the markers.

      @SmartRob@SmartRob3 ай бұрын
    • I have a friend who has that book when published and followed it rigidly at first. I need to ask him how he turned out as to his general health or not after all. I didn't like it as much as myself. wasn't that fond of the diet it felt like I should be eating.

      @BarbaraBurton-zs7tn@BarbaraBurton-zs7tn3 ай бұрын
    • @@SmartRob That book has been thoroughly debunked.

      @Vintage-Bob@Vintage-Bob3 ай бұрын
    • It makes no sense to change diet according to blood type, people can have different blood types and highly similar genetics overall (i.e. brothers)

      @AlintraxAika@AlintraxAika3 ай бұрын
    • @@AlintraxAika you are correct, however blood type is a differentiation which is at the metabolic level.

      @SmartRob@SmartRob3 ай бұрын
  • How can you see what is clearly a denisovan in papua and claim there’s only one species?

    @condor237@condor2373 ай бұрын
  • Interesting lecture, thank you : )

    @user-sc9pv9wp4v@user-sc9pv9wp4v4 ай бұрын
  • If you want to get into Darwin and positive seelection and a sister species, alls you have to do is look at the fact Neanderthals from certain areas were heterozygous for what became Rh negative and it was protective against Toxoplasmosis Gondii. Hence, there WAS Natural selection for the pre-cursor to Rh negative, and, like sickle cell anemia, the positive selection resulted in homozygotes who actually had Rh negative blood type. The Rh negative blood type is a reproductive barrier, and signifies a speciazation event. Many Autistic people are Rh negative blood type. Most Neurotypical "humans" are not.

    @MaryKDayPetrano@MaryKDayPetrano4 ай бұрын
  • I want to know his thoughts on populations in Antarctica. Who they were where they came from and where they traveled to and who they merged with later or does he think they went extinct.

    @Brianhahahaha@Brianhahahaha3 ай бұрын
  • I haven't watched this yet. I hope you address the fact that there is a far greater genetic variance amongst humans than many other multiple species animals. If we were viewing earth from afar I think we would have labelled 4 to 6 species of humans. It's all to PC and devisive now. But hey once I've finished watching, maybe I'll change my mind.

    @thomes7318@thomes73183 ай бұрын
    • 5 species within afrca. One species for the rest of the world

      @notallowedtobehonest2539@notallowedtobehonest25393 ай бұрын
    • @@notallowedtobehonest2539interesting take

      @4bidden1@4bidden13 ай бұрын
    • @@notallowedtobehonest2539 Native Australians, Melanesians, Andamanese are vastly different from all other populations. It’s not just Africa. In Africa I know about the San people, but I’m not too familiar with Africa.

      @goekhanbag@goekhanbag3 ай бұрын
    • @@goekhanbag but they all have denosivan and neanderthal dna. So they are the same species with different variations of amounts of previous species. Afrca has dna that nonafrcn populations do not have at all.

      @notallowedtobehonest2539@notallowedtobehonest25393 ай бұрын
    • @@goekhanbag thats why you hear "theres more genetic variation within africa than outside of it"

      @notallowedtobehonest2539@notallowedtobehonest25393 ай бұрын
  • I recently read it's now been discovered that blue-eyed people are better able to see in low-light conditions than brown-eyed people. Obviously very advantageous for hunting etc. far North (and presumably far south) with the long twilights in Europe. Did Neanderthals have blue eyes? Can this not be picked up in DNA? PS it annoys me that people have to be careful about 'hate speech' even in a scientific setting. Why can't we all just get along? I love that we're different. So much to learn from each other.

    @user-nc3uo1dd4o@user-nc3uo1dd4o3 ай бұрын
    • Why do we adore speckled pups, but eschew speckled people?

      @you2tooyou2too@you2tooyou2too3 ай бұрын
    • The Inuits would have blue eyes etc. Blue eye is albinism in the eye.

      @Jj-jg6pw@Jj-jg6pw3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Jj-jg6pw albinism in the eye results in red or purple iris.

      @sonofkars@sonofkars3 ай бұрын
    • @@you2tooyou2too You might. I don't. But in answer to your question, one possibility could be that certain speckles or spots can be a sign of contagious disease. That's ok with a dog that we do not usually catch any virus from, but not so with other humans. So it is the differences between species that causes us to treat them differently.

      @jam99@jam993 ай бұрын
    • The advantage must be negligible, otherwise Inuits would be blue-eyed?

      @davidadiwego4608@davidadiwego46083 ай бұрын
  • Im not sure we are alone, i known a lots of nearthentals and pitetcantropus in my country😊

    @noway8233@noway82333 ай бұрын
    • 😅❤😊

      @alinesobieray2436@alinesobieray24363 ай бұрын
    • What’s wrong with death metal?

      @PetraKann@PetraKann3 ай бұрын
    • Thats no bad thing, there's plenty of evidence to suggest that they were the more intelligent hominid.

      @carlmarkwyatt@carlmarkwyatt3 ай бұрын
    • Answer this: If evolution is how humans were created, then why is there such a large gap between the "human" intelligence and "animal" intelligence. WHERE are the other super intelligent creatures on Earth that man evolved from or evolved with? Looking at evolution as a column of beings from the simplest to the most intelligent, there is a thick "band" of creatures at or near the bottom of the column that fill every niche of this planet, most with dozens of varieties. Then there is a semi-intelligent GAP in the column with NO creatures AT ALL, then there is only ONE human being creature at the top of the column filling the higher intelligence band. This does not fit the Theory of Evolution! There should be many creatures filling the semi-intelligent band and several filling the higher band. I have a dozen other questions that PROVE that EVOLUTION is a THEORY only and NOT FACT, and it should be TAUGHT as such! We are SEPERATE from every other SPECIES on the planet, that does NOT fit the Theory!

      @mjbfortrump8269@mjbfortrump82693 ай бұрын
    • @@carlmarkwyatt All humans today have a mix of sapians DNA, nearthentals being one the sapians.

      @redstarchrille@redstarchrille3 ай бұрын
  • Very interesting lecture. Thank you.

    @dinnerwithfranklin2451@dinnerwithfranklin24513 ай бұрын
  • 46:48 "Biologically race is completely meaningless. Doesn't mean anything at all." Different races have different susceptibility to certain diseases. This is basic knowledge to all medical practitioners for effective diagnosis. Sickle cell, alpha-thalassemia, cystic fibrosis, SMA, beta-thalassemia, gaucher diseases, tay-sachs disease, fam. dysautonomia, canavan disease, just to name a few.

    @nazrhael3660@nazrhael36602 ай бұрын
    • Brain size, IQ, and racial-group differences: Evidence from musculoskeletal traits - Department of Psychology, University of Western Ontario 2001 "Despite 150 years of evidence that the races differ in brain size, and that brain size is related to intelligence, this research is often claimed to be inconclusive or to reflect little more than personal bias Brody, in press, Gould, 1996, Graves, 2002, Kamin & Omari, 1998, Lieberman, 2001. The change in view from Darwin's time to today did not occur because of more and better data or methods of analysis, but because of changes in the political climate. This began when Franz Boas (1938) and his students chipped away at traditional “hierarchical” thinking throughout the 1920s and 1930s, rejecting an evolutionary explanation of IQ and instead championing the omnipotence of culture."

      @Valchrist1313@Valchrist1313Ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much for this, I loved it from the very beginning to the very end and for once to get a much clearer overview of how things came to be maybe perhaps….. seriously, excellent

    @johncranwell3783@johncranwell37833 ай бұрын
  • It would interesting to get a DNA sample from an individual from North Sentinel Island to how development has varied compared to the rest of us if at all

    @bearlemley@bearlemley3 ай бұрын
    • That might be very hazardous ⚠️ 😅

      @SenorTucano@SenorTucano3 ай бұрын
    • Maybe, but I would suggest the aboriginal of Australia, They ve been isolated for over 50 thousands years.

      @christopheur9758@christopheur97583 ай бұрын
    • I would honestly be more interested in the sleep cycle of the people than their dna.

      @Grunttamer@Grunttamer3 ай бұрын
    • You'd get a genetic result similar to Australian aboriginals, they used to be the main inhabitants of the Indonesian archipeligo, Australia, the Philippines and Taiwan. Before the southward migration of Asians.

      @ecognitio9605@ecognitio96053 ай бұрын
    • Is is interesting enough to risk your life?

      @Johnboy33545@Johnboy335453 ай бұрын
  • Imagine how epic it would have been if we all survived and made it, together, towards the stars, instead of alone, wondering if theres someone else out there.

    @hansmatos2504@hansmatos25042 ай бұрын
    • The stars are hundreds or thousands of light-years apart. It would take twice that to send an email back and forth, it's senders dead by the time the recipient got the message. Technology, language and the people themselves would have changed drastically in that period, even barring genetic engineering. The surest way to encounter strange unrecognizable aliens is to colonize space and wait a while, because the evolutionary pressures between different types planets and space habitats far exceed that between climates and regions on Earth.

      @Valchrist1313@Valchrist1313Ай бұрын
  • Surely there is a distinction between species pairs and congeners? Two species can be congeners without being a species pair. Robin May cites genetic evidence to show that Chimpanzees and Bonobos are more closely related to each other than either is to us, but does that justify our being put in a separate genus? Is there a consistency across taxonomy as to what level of genetic diversity constitutes putting a species in a separate genus to another? I ask because I've read Jared Diamond say that there is a greater genetic difference between a Chiffchaff and a Willow Warbler than between the two Chimpanzees and ourselves.

    @rogerhigman7568@rogerhigman75683 ай бұрын
  • i really love the fact that these species were interbreeding so much. like, yes, we're different, but not that different. and thanks to that interbreeding, their dna has survived to today

    @justinthorne3588@justinthorne35883 ай бұрын
    • Not that different? Living under a rock I presume?

      @FSboy70@FSboy702 ай бұрын
    • @@FSboy70similar he means

      @alexanderjackson7815@alexanderjackson78152 ай бұрын
    • ​@@alexanderjackson7815 Similar in which way? What are you measuring, what are your standards and what are the tolerances on these metrics you have used to reach your conclusions.

      @FSboy70@FSboy702 ай бұрын
  • Also this lecture didnt even go into the several other ghost species which our evolution even more complicated

    @bubblewrap4793@bubblewrap47933 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant Lecture watched the whole thing absolutely engrossed

    @stephenbarney6776@stephenbarney67762 ай бұрын
  • What is to say that they went extinct rather than that we became the same? If there was already a negligible difference between us and we carry the dna within us then then they didn't go extinct. They don't exist in the form they did back then but they are still here, aren't they?

    @alexwithletters3215@alexwithletters32153 ай бұрын
  • Very interesting...much like The Silmarillion (sp?) or Out of the Silent Planet. I have always been amused at how anthropologists can describe entities by a fossilized tooth. Of course gene study will enhance the validity of the results. 50 years ago when I studied Anthro. the defining characteristics of a specimen were the physical characteristics alone. By this the Irish were supposed to exhibit more Neanderthal features than other Europeans. (A long ways from their African roots).

    @j.c.3800@j.c.38003 ай бұрын
    • All this is made up to "prove" Darwinian lineage vs Creationism or Alien Intervention, Genetic Manipulation and Experimentation... It's all SPECULATION...

      @t.c.2776@t.c.27763 ай бұрын
    • Well as a guy with lots of Irish roots, I welcome being called a Neanderthal…actually, already been pronounced as such a few times.

      @garywesthoven1745@garywesthoven17453 ай бұрын
  • Very interesting and informative video. Thank you.

    @SivaranjanGoswami@SivaranjanGoswami3 ай бұрын
  • Smart people take their time to answer questions and I can tell the presenter is intelligent. Not like in "I know my stuff" sense but in his ability to evaluate questions and make logical conclusions. Human intelligence is an amazing driver and result of evolution.

    @danielsolomon6227@danielsolomon622718 күн бұрын
  • The Neanderthal genome was sequenced in 2010. From this it has been determined present day humans have Neanderthal DNA. Therefore, present day humans and Neanderthals were able to mate and produce fertile offspring. So they are the same species by Ernst Mayr's definition of "species". Right? Same goes for Golden Retrievers and wolves.

    @stuharris9993@stuharris99932 ай бұрын
    • ...and lion and tigers, horses and donkeys ... the guy is a scam.

      @dv8ug@dv8ug2 ай бұрын
    • Actually, same species different subspecies. but it's a matter of definition. No definition of species is absolute in biology.

      @coolkindontheblock9163@coolkindontheblock91632 ай бұрын
    • ​@@dv8ughorses and donkeys don't get fertile offspring. Mules are infertile. So horses and donkeys ARE different species.

      @carinalarsen76@carinalarsen762 ай бұрын
  • Why is it assumed that 'out of Africa' is a one-direction process? As nomads they would be likely to have cyclical territories, retaining contacts with their relatives in the lands they had migrated from. This would include cross breeding, and there is no reason why, for example, Neanderthal mutations and technologies would not find their way back into Africa. Coastal lands are rich in resources and would support large human populations. Flooding at the end of ice ages would destroy or make inaccessible all the potential archaeological sites in those areas, so the survival bias in the sites we do have must paint an incomplete picture.

    @hypsyzygy506@hypsyzygy5063 ай бұрын
    • Out of africa is being challenged by dna evidence

      @DreamseedVR@DreamseedVR3 ай бұрын
    • My understanding is that it is not an assumption: there is next to no evidence of neanderthal Dna in African populations except those recent arrivals from Europe.

      @coraldyecoraldye7083@coraldyecoraldye70833 ай бұрын
    • Well they did creep back; thats how we find Neanderthal genes in human populations in the top part of Africa and even the odd place or two in sub-Saharan Africa.

      @straighttalking2090@straighttalking20903 ай бұрын
    • You posted a comment on KZhead

      @Sconzilius@Sconzilius3 ай бұрын
    • Retaining contacts how, by mail?

      @SianaGearz@SianaGearz3 ай бұрын
  • That was a wonderfully illustrative presentation.

    @oleran4569@oleran45693 ай бұрын
  • It feels that our ability to interbreed with Neanderthals muddies the whole theory a little.

    @phrayzar@phrayzar3 ай бұрын
    • A lot, actually. It invalidates it.

      @tapewerm6716@tapewerm67163 ай бұрын
    • Maybe listen to the end…

      @TheBloodsuger150@TheBloodsuger1503 ай бұрын
    • @@tapewerm6716 not really. he prefaced it saying that there is no clear definition of what defines a species. generally its a lack of ability to interbreed but there are many exceptions

      @TobyDubs@TobyDubs3 ай бұрын
    • so the whole video is a waste of time? thanks for the heads up, i can do better stuff with one hour@@TobyDubs

      @cobruh836@cobruh8363 ай бұрын
    • ​@@cobruh836it's not a waste of time, since it gets you get started on the path towards understanding complex issues and look at things from a scientific issue.

      @tobo7580@tobo75803 ай бұрын
  • "Race" may be a triggering word, but I think the question is really, why do we call Denisovians a different hominem than Homosapien, instead of simply a different "race" of them. It seems a pertinent question since the talk started by defining what a "biological species" is, and, according to that definition, Denisovians seem to the same species as Homosapiens.

    @samsorrell1832@samsorrell18322 ай бұрын
    • I think the mating partnership types result in some offspring being infertile. Thats why they are different species like Lions and Tigers can make Ligers that are sterile but can also make tigons if it is a male tiger and lioness.

      @cybat1078@cybat10782 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@cybat1078a low percentage of hybrids must have been able to reproduce again, otherwise, the modern human wouldn't have around 3% of the DNA of other species. I don't understand why biologists are so keen on saying races don't exist, still common sense can see them. They shouldn't be afraid to answer scientifically what a race really is.

      @retropaganda8442@retropaganda844228 күн бұрын
    • ​@@cybat1078sure, I see that as an arbitrary rule to define species though. If you take neaderthals instead, reproducing with them did not create infertile offspring yet they are considered different species

      @theguy9067@theguy906715 күн бұрын
    • Yeah I've never understood this either. Doesn't a northern European share more genetic codes with a Neanderthal than a modern day Sub-Saharan African, for example? Surely that just makes Neanderthals a different race

      @joshhoppring5051@joshhoppring505114 күн бұрын
    • @@joshhoppring5051 that is incorrect. Modern Europeans are by far more similar to subsaharan africans than they are to neaderthals

      @theguy9067@theguy906714 күн бұрын
  • Africa has the highest levels of genetic diversity on the planet. While the out of Africa theory is well proven the inner African human evolution story has never been researched. Continual references to Europe and Asia makes no sense because you're only getting a fraction of the story. Surely if human life started in Africa it would make more sense to focus research on that part of the world. This avoidance is a deliberate one. What are they hiding?

    @axe7064@axe70643 ай бұрын
    • Who are "they"? And what sort of ideological/political slant do you have?

      @LordJordanXVII@LordJordanXVII3 ай бұрын
    • "They" are skirting around the hard truth that Sub-Saharan populations are distinct subspecies which interbred with older archaic humans while the rest of humanity interbred with Neanderthals and Denisovans, and colonized all the other continents. The "genetic diversity" of Sub-Saharan Africa merely means that the populations have been bottlenecked there long enough to form many distinct groups, as opposed to the relatively closely related humans that colonized the rest of the world. Remember, truly indistinguishably modern humans (as opposed to "anatomically modern") are first seen in Morocco and Southern Europe, not in Sub-Saharan Africa.

      @marshallscot@marshallscot3 ай бұрын
    • Have you considered that perhaps it’s very difficult to do these studies in many parts of Africa?

      @iancampbell1494@iancampbell14943 ай бұрын
    • no one is actively looking for fossiles early humans. it happens thr other way around. people find parts randomly (often in mining or construction) and then the archeologists start looking closer in that specific area. so, the reason we know a lot less about early african humans is mostly because there were either 1. less random findings (which can be related to geograohy because by far most fossils do not survive the centuries) or 2. the funding for archeologists when things were found was not available. this also includes the budget to stop construction or mining operations when stuff is found.

      @jurgnobs1308@jurgnobs13082 ай бұрын
    • Not much. The Bantus wrecked other African peoples, but they are still around in reduced numbers. There is not much more to it than that. Africa having the highest levels of genetic diversity is exactly what you'd expect in an out of Africa scenario, in fact it is one of the smoking guns that support the theory.

      @mikicerise6250@mikicerise62502 ай бұрын
  • Great lecture. Appreciate hearing some of the Q&A; some rather insightful questions asked.

    @starshifter@starshifter3 ай бұрын
  • I heard a theory some time ago which appeared quite feasible. That is, that modern man may well be the first war like human. Not that they killed other humans en masse but perhaps drove them out, off to less habitable lands. Considering that that is exactly what we have been and are throughout recorded history

    @Gerryjournal@Gerryjournal2 ай бұрын
    • Chimpanzees have also been observed to have one group drive away and then completely wipe out other groups of chimpanzees.

      @raccoontrashpanda1467@raccoontrashpanda14672 ай бұрын
    • Territoriality is a quintessential mammalian trait, exhibited not only by lions and bears, but even rabbits, where some species are notoriously territorial.

      @Valchrist1313@Valchrist1313Ай бұрын
    • @@Valchrist1313 We may well have been the first however

      @Gerryjournal@GerryjournalАй бұрын
    • Plenty of contemporary evidence for this as well.

      @BradleyLayton@BradleyLayton3 күн бұрын
  • The internet is like just a beehive for human information

    @bageda3109@bageda31092 ай бұрын
  • Awesome lecture. Thank you for the upload. ;-)

    @carlosipec2270@carlosipec22703 ай бұрын
    • Just a minute in but before I listen to the rest, the following. I thought a species was defined as the largest group of individuals which can interbreed in which case humans are a species by definition. Since you've watched the whole thing and are obviously impressed by it I'd be grateful if you would correct me if I'm wrong so I can decide whether to watch the rest (I'm short of time). Thanks.

      @godfriedmontana2705@godfriedmontana27053 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for a very interesting lecture, though I have a question about the definition of species. You define a species as a group of individuals that can reproduce successfully together. I understand that enough H. sapiens and H. neanderthalensis interbred that many of us carry some of their genetic material. Does that mean that the definition is incorrect or is H. neanderthalensis better characterised as H. sapiens neanderthalensis? Note, I am not a zoologist so forgive any glaring misunderstanding 😊

    @bernard2735@bernard27354 ай бұрын
    • At the same time, how sensible is it to assume that Neanderthals a) are extinct, that b) approximately 2% of the genes within a subset of the human gene pool can be traced directly back to them [Sorry, my misunderstanding: The 2% do not refer to the gene pool but are the average amount of genes within individuals of the subset] and c) at the same time describe them as separate species? I think that it is necessary to avoid the "species" category in order to meaningfully deal with the evolutionary development of different traits. The fact that we associate the term "Neanderthal" with the idea of ​​a person whose characteristics no longer appear today is because some of these characteristics no longer occur. But others can still be observed in people living today... It would therefore make sense not to assume that the Neanderthal species is extinct, but rather that some characteristics that led to them being categorized as Neanderthals are no longer inherited today.

      @ListenToMcMuck@ListenToMcMuck4 ай бұрын
    • I agree, @bernard2735. Using Mayr's biol9gucal species definition, it seems more logical to regard Sapiens, Neanderthals, and Denisovans as a single species.

      @jrellis11@jrellis114 ай бұрын
    • @@jrellis11so a dog a wolf and a coyote are the same species but they aren’t the same so why do humans feel the need to pretend we have no differences that make us behave so differently?

      @pinchebruha405@pinchebruha4054 ай бұрын
    • @@SuperWiz666 *_"Both Neanderthals and Denisovans still exist."_* Absolute poppycock. {:o:O:}

      @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir80954 ай бұрын
    • @@pcatful thank you - that’s very helpful.

      @bernard2735@bernard27354 ай бұрын
  • When he says "we know from dating", he isn't talking about pre-diluvian Tinder.

    @Stellarcrete@StellarcreteАй бұрын
    • LOL. I see what you did there ;-)

      @thomasmaughan4798@thomasmaughan4798Ай бұрын
  • The odds of finding a first generation Neanderthal denisovan hybrid seem exceedingly low. Perhaps Neanderthal and denisovan hybrids were infertile, like a liger, while human/Neanderthal & human/denisovan hybrids were not.

    @user-sr2vs8ns1n@user-sr2vs8ns1n3 ай бұрын
  • Fascinating, thank you very very much.

    @avagrego3195@avagrego31953 ай бұрын
  • _"Why are we the only species of human?"_ Because we make the conscious decision to taxonomically classify ourselves that way.

    @billbadson7598@billbadson75983 ай бұрын
    • What's your point? That different people in the world sharing 99.99 of the same Dna as you might be a different species? Or that us and chimps might be the same species, sharing 98% of our dna?

      @lifes2short4aname@lifes2short4aname3 ай бұрын
    • Nope it has to be valid proof... not just having a feel that one is a different specie... Having a KZhead degree in research is not the same as having a real education in research, which is based on evidence. Even a 10 year old can say they do research. Really research you have to have basic education in the subject, like a master degree, then a phd and become a doctor. Then after that you can go start into research, but you will still be supervices by a senior reaseacher.

      @redstarchrille@redstarchrille3 ай бұрын
    • @@redstarchrille _"Nope it has to be valid proof... not just having a feel that one is a different specie..."_ You sound like you have no idea what you're talking about. Species isn't something dependent on a "proof." It's literally a manmade category, and men decide which organism belongs in which species by highly subjective means.

      @billbadson7598@billbadson75983 ай бұрын
    • ​@@billbadson7598no a species are ones who can reproduce successfully with each other i.e your offspring can reproduce as well. it's not just wishy washy. the only thing manmade is the name of the species

      @wasifhamid6119@wasifhamid61192 ай бұрын
    • Yup exactly, we ant all the same pretty obvious 😊

      @user-ny7tn4qs9i@user-ny7tn4qs9i7 күн бұрын
  • In spite of the fact we have "unexplored" area on the globe, it safe to say humans have been all over the globe more than once. We have no idea how often large groups of people poured into the Americas but the Eurasians and African continents have been invaded multiple times that we know and the invasions continue, people keep moving.

    @poetmaggie1@poetmaggie117 күн бұрын
  • Why is that different races of orangutans are referred to as different species but different races of human aren't?

    @allantulli5546@allantulli55463 ай бұрын
    • DEAR genius i am pointing out that the difference between "species" of orangutan is less than the difference between races of humans. Try to keep up in your limited capacity.@@STEEZ4U

      @allantulli5546@allantulli55463 ай бұрын
    • Try to keep up genius, i am pointing out that the difference in "species" of Orangutans is less than the difference between "race" in humans. Science is now about what is convenient rather than factual.@@STEEZ4U

      @allantulli5546@allantulli55463 ай бұрын
  • It starts by defining that a biological species is a group of individuals capable of producing successfully together. Then proceeds to claim that different species of humans were sustainably and consistently producing offsprings together. We certainly have to revise the definition as it was contradicted within the same lecture. Based on genetics and the DNA variation described in the lecture, we also can't be sure that bonobos and chimps are different species, perhaps they're different groups of the same species that have different habits and culture.

    @Die_Kvar@Die_Kvar3 ай бұрын
    • It starts by saying that is ONE way biologists define the word species

      @world_musician@world_musician3 ай бұрын
  • Needs to be way longer, or of course many more videos on this.

    @antonyjh1234@antonyjh12344 ай бұрын
    • It should be shorter. The more something is understood, the simpler the explanation becomes.

      @theoryofpersonality1420@theoryofpersonality14203 ай бұрын
  • Really Enjoyed that Lecture.......Many Thanks 🤘

    @timhannah4@timhannah416 күн бұрын
  • Difference between a morph and a species is arbitrary. You could call different color and morph people different species or different morphs. It’s like calling something a dialect or a language.

    @maxturgidson568@maxturgidson5688 күн бұрын
  • Loved loved loved this lecture!

    @Karla_Marie@Karla_Marie3 ай бұрын
  • I don't understand why the neanderthals and denisovans are a different specie amd not a different race. They looked different just like Asians vs Africans or Caucasians. They interbred just like Asians, Africans and Caucasians. And, they lived pretty much at the same period just like Africans, Caucasians and Asians. Why?

    @agonlata4748@agonlata47483 ай бұрын
    • Africans lived long before Caucasians and asians

      @doitall36@doitall363 ай бұрын
    • Too many differences, and races didn’t arise from separate species, having more or less melanin is one pretty minor thing, relative to Neanderthal differences between us

      @Thomas-bq4ed@Thomas-bq4ed3 ай бұрын
    • ​@Thomas-bq4ed Sub-Saharan African DNA is obviously distinct from European and Asian DNA in more ways than just melanin. Regardless, taxonomy is based on more than genetics alone, it's also based on observable traits. If they applied the same standard to modern human groups as they applied to Neanderthals and Denisovans they would quickly discover multiple human subspecies but they don't do that for obviously political reasons.

      @marshallscot@marshallscot3 ай бұрын
    • @@marshallscot: "they don't do that"? A _few_ have _stopped_ doing that, you mean. Just look into a mirror to see someone who still does that.

      @hwgray@hwgray3 ай бұрын
    • @@marshallscot Obviously different? Are you a geneticist? Have you done the research? Where is your computational data? And how would you interpret those differences-and separate junk DNA from DNA that actually gets used, and actually pinpoint the differences that actually get expressed? So as to actually demonstrate that these differences have some actual implications in our modern society? If these differences exist for people with very little mixed ancestry, what’s the relevance for the rest of the world, which is largely mixed? What’s the point? And how do you even determine whether there is a point at all, or whether you’re choosing to interpret the data to make yourself and your imaginary conception of the world feel better?

      @sherlyn.a@sherlyn.a3 ай бұрын
  • my guess is that humans are really averse to minor alteration. the human mind is naturally attracted to a specific image of the ideal human, and anything that differs from that may find it very hard to have descendants (if you know what I mean). the reason other species don't have this problem is that they lack the intellect and leisure to be particularly picky about their partners (as old humans were).

    @wildfire_@wildfire_3 ай бұрын
  • I've heard something very strange not long ago.. Another "kind" of species.. from lizards. They'd live a couple of Km under us, at some opened spaces/cave-like places. It sounds random, I KNOW.. but.. there's SO MUCH we barely know on KNOWN areas.. some mentioned by the guy here, some from other sources (bed of oceans are still unknown!). It made me wonder..

    @HelgaCavoli@HelgaCavoli3 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for making this very interesting exploration of our human evolution and interwoven roots. Very clear explanation of biological, genetic and social understanding of race.

    @matsouthwell1429@matsouthwell14293 ай бұрын
    • Evolution dont exist 😂😂😂😂😂

      @jozebutinar44@jozebutinar443 ай бұрын
    • But race is inconsequential, remember…?

      @revmsj@revmsj3 ай бұрын
    • Answer this: If evolution is how humans were created, then why is there such a large gap between the "human" intelligence and "animal" intelligence. WHERE are the other super intelligent creatures on Earth that man evolved from or evolved with? Looking at evolution as a column of beings from the simplest to the most intelligent, there is a thick "band" of creatures at or near the bottom of the column that fill every niche of this planet, most with dozens of varieties. Then there is a semi-intelligent GAP in the column with NO creatures AT ALL, then there is only ONE human being creature at the top of the column filling the higher intelligence band. This does not fit the Theory of Evolution! There should be many creatures filling the semi-intelligent band and several filling the higher band. I have a dozen other questions that PROVE that EVOLUTION is a THEORY only and NOT FACT, and it should be TAUGHT as such! We are SEPERATE from every other SPECIES on the planet, that does NOT fit the Theory!

      @mjbfortrump8269@mjbfortrump82693 ай бұрын
  • Excellent lecture. Really cogent explanation of a complex subject. Thanks.

    @judithmccrea2601@judithmccrea26013 ай бұрын
  • Species live in niches so when they are in the same niche as another there is competition. The fittest species in an area in a particular niche will out compete all others in the particular niche there can only be one. To accommodate this similar species must adapt to or change to live or occupy a different if similar niche. If different species are able to reproduce then repeated mating between species groups will dissolve the differences in variation and thus the relative competitive advantages associated with either species selective niche occupying advantages respectively. Thus two species in similar or overlapping niches will either outcompete one or the other, or interbreed and dilute differences down to one species.

    @jehoover3009@jehoover30093 ай бұрын
    • >The fittest species in an area in a particular niche will out compete all others in the particular niche there can only be one. ... eventually perhaps with enough time passing, but since we live at a specific point in time, you'll find that there are plenty of cases where you have multiple very similar species in an area that while in competition continue to both proliferate for a very long time. North America has multiple species of squirrels pretty much everywhere for instance.

      @deedoubs@deedoubs3 ай бұрын
  • I would love to see the other lecture he alluded to, where he mentions the topic was the future evolution of humans!

    @kevin9794@kevin97942 ай бұрын
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