So I guess The New Mutants finally stumbled out into cinemas after keeping the world waiting for three years. Is it worth the wait? Is it bold new beginning for the X-Men series? You're kidding, right?
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I love being lectured about evil corporations, by evil corporations.
There was no lecture about evil corporations in this movie.
Having a concept that exist in our universe exist in this movie's canon is not a lecture on the topic. That's like saying the existence of females is a lecture on femininity. If you want a lecture, walk into a college and sit in the back seat for about the duration of an average movie. Then you'll have your lecture.
That wasn't moaning. If you cringed at the example, that was kinda the point. This is an act of boredom, not rage. Who's up for a debate?
I'm sorry that you're fragile enough to believe that this is something actually worth crying over. Pity you believe such things. Pity indeed. But for entertainment's sake, and no other reason, shall I spare a moment to go down this rabbit hole? If said theory of yours is the case, which I doubt, where the writers of this movie wish to address internal corruption, could it not be true that the layman writer would shoehorn such a concept in to direct it not at their audience but to their own boss? I certainly don't think this to be the case, but even if it was, such musings are not quite as nonsensical as you guys seem to wish it was. A corporation isn't an individual, and a movie like this is made by and influenced by many differing individuals. That point is utterly moot. Regardless, this certainly didn't make or break this movie. It was probably just casually tossed in as an Easter Egg to the comic book fans.
That's what I taught playing Cyberpunk.
“Safe, predictable and restrained”, the Disney motto.
I expected a bunch of Marvel fanboys to be shouting about DC movies in this comment thread even though you didn't say anything about DC...
you forgot Fox too
@@onion_wind Lol you right
Not the motto they're going to be sticking to for long given how much the Mulan live-action remake fucked them and in how many ways.
Bruh this movie wasnt even made by disney...
I feel like the more "diverse" we get, the less diverse we get.
I think part of the problem is that with every movie having to fill all the diversity quotas, there's too many people on screen and not enough time to make them characters, so everyone is just a sad shallow stereotype. Sort of, 'If everyone's represented, no one is'
@@TheSchultinator This is the type of thing that can, as much as I hate to say it, be handled better in a larger universe. Something like the MCU has space for this, but that shit is expensive to emulate and difficult to pull off. You'd want to first introduce your core, mass market relatable cast. Which happens to cis and straight, and if you plan to milk them for every penny, chinese or white to hit the two major high wealth demographics. We're hitting the point now that a well enough written character will make about the same amount of money regardless of if they are male or female so we can have a bit of room here for that one. Next you can move out to the core supporting case and second tier characters, those who don't need to carry the big issues of plot alone but get the privilege of being fleshed out characters, these can basically hit one diversity metric each and still be relatable enough to be characters. These guys will get plenty of showings in various movies, and might even get a few movies of their own, so they will naturally be marketable, but since they aren't your foundation you don't need them to appeal to everyone at once. This is a great place to tuck all your LGBT, non-neuraltypical, and uncommon minority characters who are otherwise pretty standard and relatable. You get one of these things each, so spread them around wisely. Then we can move out to the fodder yet still recurring supporting cast, these can hit two or three diversity metrics each and still be marketable enough for toys. You won't be fully realizing these guys as fleshed out characters, but they will be marketable. Then we hit the trash characters who only exist for one movie. These can be as diverse as you want, they'll be dead or forgotten next movie anyways.
And intelligent
The sad part about This whole "woke nation" is that When it has infested into the Arts and Entertainment world, it's not about the Art anymore, but about the Diversity of these group of characters are. What does that have to do with Anything that these characters have to bring to the table or the story that the viewers must know about. These characters are Poorly written as 1 dimensional and just a Plot Device to use for people to Awe over, and the story's that these writers come up with are Uninteresting, Oversaturated, and Redundant. I'd like to see something New in the Future where The Storys, characters are worth The watch, or pay at least. I think I'm done with U.S. entertainment and Media, esspecially if it's content like this.. fairly Disappointed.
It's because critical theory's goal is to change language in order to manufacture policy and have a nonviolent communist revolution. "Diverse" means lots of types, but "diverse" in woke cultural marxist-speak means "not a straight white person". So you get people who feel good by conflating the idea of diversity while not actually bringing diversity, but over-representing tiny niche demographics for woke points and calling that diversity instead. If white western civilization was created by white people and hates communism, then changing language so that they are somehow bad and evil is a tactic to unite all of the other demographics against them and then implement communism little by little under other words like socialism or "universal ____________".
"Won't be remembered at all" This is actually the first time i've ever heard of this movie. So... accurate.
True! I never heard of this thing
This is also the first I've heard of it.
Same, hope I never hear of it again
I've actually heard of it before: in Filmento's Anatomy of a Failure about it.
I thought this was TV show. But I was thinking about Gifted
"Reign. A Scottish girl who can turn into a wolf. wait, isn't that just a werewolf?" Nope. in my experience that's just a Scottish girl.
Isn't Drinker Scottish ?
@@marcinkrz3140 Apparently. I dont know him personally. He could just be a Jamaican woman who's good at accents.
@@meahoohenehene that's now my head cannon drinker is a Jamaican woman who's good a accents
@@meahoohenehene Oh God Drinker is a wahmaen of RGB isn't he ?
That’s just me on a Tuesday.
“Probably won’t even be remembered” I didn’t even know it existed until I watched this video.
Same. And I won't watch it either. So it will definitely be quickly forgotten by me.
+ 1
Disney didn't market it at all. They just released it one day, much like Artemis Fowl, to test the waters and see how many people watched it and if it was safe to release stuff.
Literally only know about this "film" because it was on a theater sign
Same here
Not sure what's more annoying. Modern woke Hollywood taking two straight characters and making them lesbians for virtual signal points or writers not getting half their powers right. Cannonball's power set literally makes him invulnerable while he's flying so he can smash into things...like a cannonball... so let's show he's getting injured in his flights to make him more sympathetic. Right.
Wokey wokey wokeyness with a side of woke salad... Yes two straights playing lesbians... then there's a guy who's not from Brazil playing a Brazilian etc
Same sex relationships are too overrated and it get more and more boring.
They stopped respecting the origin material a long time ago. Pretty sure cannonball was in x-force anyways. Why'd they change it? Don't know.
Just to clarify as long as he is blasting he is invulnerable. In his early days with his powers he forgot he was invulnerable and would just stop blasting. Luckily he got to train in the X-Men's danger room so it would catch him safely however there is no training room here. Sam is the one character that they actually got the closest to accurately recreating in this movie. Also I am NOT defending this movie, it basically raped the characters from the original comic. All while taking one of the most awesome stories of the New Mutants comics and gutting the meaning and destroying the storyline.
@@TheSully00714 He was inn X-Force later. The original line-up for New Mutants was Dani, Sam, Rahne (pronounced rain), Roberto, and Shan. Illyana came in later. Woke as the are, the dumped Shan, the Asian actual-lesbian character....
Just like medical doctors always wear a stethoscope over their shoulders, native americans always have some leather necklace thing. "Is she native american?" "She must be, she has a leather necklace thing."
Im working w like 4 natives Americans from north carolina they all have small leather pouches w tassles running along the bottom of the pouches... lmao
Ah yes. There are stupid stereotypes, AND THEN there are real-life people who perpetuate them in ways you wouldn't believe unless you've seen it for real. I live in Europe and haven't seen any native Americans, but I have witnessed some other such examples.
very important when the actor is white.
Or else someone might mistake her as ..... white!!!! 😱😱😱
There's a great scene towards the end of the movie Wind River where Jeremy Renner's character visits the bereaved American Indian father whose daughter was murdered at the start of the movie. He finds the father sat in his yard with tribal paint on his face in a pattern. Renner sits down next to him and they have a solemn conversation. Eventually Renner asks him "What's with the paint and that pattern?" and the father responds "I dunno, I just made it up." The two then look at each other and laugh. It was a great scene.
Can't be a tomboy without being gay or bi nowadays.
Or have people try to convince you that you're "tran-male, you just haven't realised it yet!" I hate this modern age.
This reminds me of a meme image of a tomboy lover watching a tomboy be brainwashed into thinking she's gay or trans ..... Eh I thought it was funny lol
@@CalamityM Glad I'm not in school anymore or that might have been me. It's bad enough when I tell people I'm a straight female they're surprised or I hear them wondering if I'm gay behind my back walking past, all because I'm an autistic Plain Jane who likes darker bagger clothes and men's pants(they're not as form-fitting, more durable, and have real pockets). Hell, even my gay friend is a bit surprised that I identify as a straight cis female because my clothing and personality type isn't the female norm, and I come off as a bit man-ish in my way of thinking.
@Dave I have no problem with gays (about half my friend group is LGBT and if I had a problem we wouldn't be friends, again I'm on the spectrum and thus I don't have much of a poker face and I am a terrible liar). I'm just sick of being stereotyped as being LGBT because I'm a tomboy.
I am beginning to hate these dumb ass portrayals.
“Whiny, angst ridden, depressing and humourless teenagers are what people are looking for in entertainment.” Said every producer to themselves in the last ten years.
Even as every example has failed spectacularly! And they say directors have too much f****** Pride just look at the f****** producers!
Maybe they are trying to appeal to the ever widening demographic of whiny, angst ridden, depressing and humourless people?
You should see the books getting published to teens. Trash with different names
@@Hungabrigoo well , not everyone wants or needs to see exactly them on screen, cus not everyone is a good character you know ?
@@chadpowell1832 There is actually an interesting discussion about whether a protagonist should likeable or not. Some really good movies can actually pull off a protagonist that is intentionally reprehensible (Silence of the Lambs for example). However, as a rule of thumb, if your audience cannot emphatise with your main characters to at least some degree, you have failed in making a movie (or any story for that matter). In other words, it needs to be intentional to work.
Discovering this movie was like finding a folded up $20 on the ground, unfolding it and finding that it was used as toilet paper, and the realizing that it’s not a real $20
"Oh a new X-Men movie" "Oh shit its a bad X-Men movie" "This thing isn't even X-Men"
These comments are hilariously accurate 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Like one of those fake $20 looking pieces of paper people leave around but when you unfold it, it just tells you that jesus loves you or some shit.
😂🤣😭
@@TheTGOAC if Jesus really loves me then he should've given me a real 20$
Angus McHaggisKilt legit killed me. Laughing hysterically right now.
i think that was his actual name in Austin Powers.
Wasn’t his name fat bastard? Or was that his nickname?
@@asmosisyup2557 it was Fat Bastard, as far as I recall
They really should've just ended this series with Logan, and go out with a bang.
No chance of that when Disney is involved in anything. They just don’t beat a dead horse, they flay it to the bone.
Why go out with a bang when you can go out with a buck. - Disney CEO
But money
It did. This was the failed attempt to keep it from flatlining.
I’m just glad Hugh left the character on a high note.
I live in Portland, and can confirm that there are mutants here.
Sorry to waltz into into your private life like that, but how's the situation in your city right now? I live in Europe so the only thing I know about what's happening in Portland is from news (rarely) and from social media. I am genuinely curious about what is REALLY going on in there, without biased filters of both left and right.
Let me guess. None of them have cool powers, they are just freaky misshapen mutants.
Where are the Sentinels when you really need them?
I'm guessing they're less "superhero" and more like the sewer dwelling kind from C.H.U.D.
😂😂
I'm so fucking happy that there's a group of people out there, that think Sophie Turner is just... not really anything. "Charisma vacuum" is a perfect analogy
Charisma Vacuum sounds like an adult film star name.
@@JodyBruchon cos vaccums suck 😜
Sophie Turner is like a cheap knockoff of a generic brand of ramen noodles that happens to be noodle flavoured
Well, she's pretty... but yeah, very much not charismatic.
@@NotDuncan generic no frills ScarJo
That's actually a fresh idea. A Superhero horror movie that goes full on horror, but the main characters just happen to have powers. Guess it was too fresh for Hollywood, can't possibly risk a new idea.
Sounds like what Stephen King has been doing.
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Or you had an extremely crappy day at work and you see a drinker upload! A frown, dismayed, sad face buster...suddenly your whole outlook warms up and you go sky high. Energy drink!
he one if not the best movie reviewer right now ,Mauler is great too
Would that be Irish Coffee? Heavy on the "Irish" and no coffee?
I legitimately listen to this dude in the morming to wake up
The surprise piss dribble is one of the saddest things that can happen to a guy 😔
Gets me every time
No matter how you squirm and dance the last two drops go in your pants.
Franklin said Death and Taxes were the only certainties of this world, I however argue that the post piss dribble, is the fabled third.
@@eujoseafonso old pp spotted
Always happens during a date.
Hearing that Sam has anger issues in the movie and literally gets injured when he’s blasting makes me so relieved I never saw this, in the comics Sam was one of the calmest members of X Force/New Mutants, he was even canonically too shy to mention he had feelings for Rahne in the Demon Bear saga so having anger problems seems waaaaayyy off character for him, if not including the way off character lesbian kiss in the mix
Isn't his power to fly through the air AS A CANNONBALL, IE not getting hurt while he smashes through things. Where in this, he just gets hurt because, sympathy points i guess? Because nobody is allowed to have COOL super powers anymore? Seriously, turning into a wolf? That's lame unless you're just a werewolf. Portals is overdone, but if you do it right it can be pretty cool. They didn't i'm sure. Manifesting someone's fears sounds cool, but it's really just a cheap gimmick. I'll bet the fire guy can ONLY shoot fire, he can't do anything interesting with it. He doesn't have thermokinesis he just shoots fire, that's not even pyrokinesis! It's just BEING A FLAMETHROWER. X-Men had a character that could CONTROL fire, but not make it. So that was SLIGHTLY more interesting and they still didn't make that dude a main fucking character! Super powers fucking suck now, it's all this super bland shit that you can't do anything WITH. There's a reason Invisible Woman's super power isn't turning invisible, it's creating force fields that can be used to warp light and make herself invisible. Cause just being invisible isn't a very flexible power, it's only useful for infiltration, that's it. Once the fight starts, she's literally as useful as anyone with whatever her martial arts skill level is.
@@haku8135 I promise it was cooler in the comics... wayyy better
@@haku8135 sad thing is the powers are almost completely wrong. Sunspot gains super str from solar energy. He isn't immune to damage so it was a nice bit of story telling that he was a hothead, ughhh, but wasn't superman and got in over his head at times. It helped make him mature and gave him depth. This nonsense is just insulting.
@@newtpondskipper these powers COULD be good. Then again, they took away all the Mandarin's awesome powers too and replaced them with punching and a shitty whip. So clearly they have an agenda against creativity, not just men.
So sad what they did with Illyana (her original name in the comics is Magik). She's supposed to be Colossus' sister. Lockheed is NOT imaginary, and she doesn't "teleport", she opens portals into Limbo. She was an amazing, and very colorful, character when the comics originally introduced her.
“Unwelcome dribble of piss” is the best description of current Hollywood I’ve heard yet.
Rechordian true, but they are rare exceptions among the sea of mediocrity that is now the standard.
Me: *seen 2 main, female characters* Me: "i bet they will be gay" me 1 min later: "POG"
Even funnier if you care about the lore behind her character
@MrNahual2099 I hate what Peter David did to Wolfsbane. His run on X-Factor was great, except for that bit. Did they make them gay in this movie? They never were in the comics. Only gay character in New Mutants was Karma and the book had been cancelled for over a decade by the time they revealed that.
Wolfsbane was shall we say VERY protestant and was kind of, and by kind of I mean SUPER NOT ok with gay characters originally. So the fact that they decided to make her gay in the movie feels like a deliberate "fuck you" to the source material.
The bond between the two characters was never sexualized in the comics.
Guy and girl main characters fall in love "Omg guys and girls can be _just_ friends wtf why do they always get together" Two same sex main characters get together "YASS REPRESENTATION MORE PLS" Two same sex characters are friends "Omg but what if they were gay UwU"
Magik is Colossus's sister and becomes the ruler of limbo. She's way to o.p to be locked in a hospital
wait, THAT WAS MAGIK!? God, what disrespect to an otherwise badass character
@@itzmrinyy7484 yeah it says a lot when people didn’t even realize that
I like Anya Taylor-Joy, but even that was grating to see. In terms of looks she's spot on as Magik...but thats the most I can give credit.
My dad actually mentioned how she was his sister, I was like deadass confused how was she even able to be confined there
Short hair girl looks like a discount Harry Potter, just add glasses
😄😄😄😄😂😂😂😂😂👍🏻 well said
Rahne and Dani arent gay in the comics. So it was tokenisum and forced.
There was some pretty heavy subtext in the comics, my dude.
@@nathanmanning5219 no there wasnt. I own full runs of the new mutant comics and have read every issue. Can you provide actual examples? Issue #'s?
Also completely unnecessary, since they could have just included Karma in the cast in the cast.
@@miguelpanty see, this is why you never say anything online, no matter what you think, there's someone who knows a shit ton more than you.
Karma earned her Lesbian Representation points. Rahne has plenty of her own legitimate hang-ups about sex and repressed humanity, distinct and tragic enough for an interesting plot all her own. I guess I could see room to sneak Dani in as gay, since she was more bossy than girly when the group started. But that’s kinda giving in to unpleasant stereotypes about women in authority.... not exactly progressive thinking. Karma and Magma would be a ... HOT couple though! (Not that Magma was gay, but since she came from a weird bubble neo-Roman culture, you have plenty of space to redefine her cultural perspective on the issue). Such a shame they botched my favorite team!
Man these analogies are so crazy and accurate
The Drinker is the Dennis Miller of entertainment reviews. imho
Logan is the greatest X men movie and at least one of the greatest marvel movies of all time change my mind
bemotivated Howard the Duck is the best marvel movie change my mind
Steve Smith Duck tits, enough said
"Then he dies because the plot doesn't need him anymore."... Had to pause and laugh my red-pilled ass off for a good minute.
At least that movie had balls to do that. Sometimes in fiction some characters are being kept alive no matter how useless they are.
@@arnold3768 I’ve experienced why some people don’t kill off characters, be it to use them as humor, or just the fear of death in general (Yeah don’t ask).
@@arnold3768 or they just piss off never to be seen again for the rest of the movie
@@antoine6760 Why? DON'T KNOW!
"A bunch of 20 some thing nobodies that don't know why they are here" Goddamn dude. Shots fired
Wow, there are lesbians in this film? How stunning and brave. The only thing I can say about the X-Men franchise is, "It's dead, Jim."
Yep...lets put in a lesbian couple. How *boring*
@Deadpool Almost like The Rise of Skywalker's and 3 Below's lesbian kisses, romances that have had no development whatsoever.
@Deadpool Understandable.
@@nahtesalinas1917 They took the Dani's older sister love for Rahne that grows and is exhibited in the comics and perverted it so they could have a lesbian couple. They were from different cultures and continents however they became so close they had a telepathic connection (when Rahne was a wolf) BUT it was a sister love. Rahne was very old bible catholic and lesbianism would not even enter her radar.
While at the same time, they excluded the character of Shan, who was a lesbian...
“Y’know when you’re taking a piss?” Best couple of seconds to a video ever.
Facts
Disturbingly accruate as well
I really hate it when you pull up your zipper mindlessly and then a bit more comes out...
The man is magic, I was pissing.
I actually really liked the premise, and the way they executed that premise. And I was really convinced that the caretaker cared for those in her care, and really wanted to protect them. I felt the fear in her as she confronted the one that the movie protrayed as the main character, and her inner turmoil as she struggled to convince herself to end the life of someone that she didn't want to kill. She was a doctor, not a seasoned soldier or a psychopath, and she knew that her wards would hate her for it. It felt like her fear was what killed her, not her inability. Also, her focus was probably wavering due to blood loss. But yeah, the movie as a whole was weak.
The idea really did sound interesting, and there are some moments I find cool, if it was released before Logan or even Dark Phoenix it may have been just received okay enough, but for it to be excreted out long after Logan basically doomed it.
Imagine if they did the twist where it wasn't the X-men but they had been in X-men uniforms in a cool looking place the entire time and just dropped hints here and there but I guess writing is hard.
This looks like something The Boys would parody. "Vought presents a new dark teen horror story: Teenage Kix Asylum"
Spider Jerusalem well,you're not wrong.. I mean,Amazon _DID actually confirm_ that "Vought Superhero high school"- The Boys' spinoff recently,and-through second-hand sources,I might add- _that the Teenage Kix ARE going to be a featured team in said spinoff series,so it could be possible to have their take on this mess of an X Men-film there,apparently so.._ Although,in my opinion and all-I _ACTUALLY would rather like to see the utter calamity that is their bastardized version of the X Men,the G-Men,to take on this kind of situation,honestly..maybe at an/the orphanage that the UTTERLY Digusting,sexually deviant wrench of a man Professor X-knockoff (they have in that comic's universe) had taken,dealt and subjected to all manners of horrors with while he was still around,mind you._ (And on another note- _DAMN. Garth Ennis's hateful love-letter to the superhero comic book GENRE's universe,not to mention Vought company/industriy/industries itself,has a/some SEROUS problem regarding every batch of Abandoned,Compound V-infected/affected and superpowered babies,Youngsters and overall groups of underaged Young-people Teams ON their hands,mind you..It..it baffles and intrigues me out of my mind,if you think about it,honestly..YEESH._ )
After watching the boys, I don't care about Marvel movies.
The Boys would do it better.
Love the name. Lets hope that IP never gets made into cinema.
The episode Blow The Bloody Doors Off was similar.
“It’s like Event Horizon if Event Horizon was shit!” Simple and brilliant
I didn’t realize we were watching “Galaxy of Terror.”
I've been listening to The Drinker's commentaries carefully lately because I really am an actor trying to sound Scottish when I play the role of the Ghost of Christmas Present in an upcoming community theater production. The obserrrrvation of how actorrrrs rrrroutinely drrrrain audiences with bad Scottish accents serves as a timely warning. I'll try to not sound not Scottish!
If you take your accent from this guy's normal voice then everyone will wonder why you're talking through your teeth as you clamp them shut as hard as you can.
What a shame, I remember seeing one of the earliest trailers for this and was actually quite excited. We all thought it was going to be a genuine horror film with mutants on the side... but instead we got this
I see only two known faces: Arya Stark and that decent, sensible elder brother from Stranger things.
Well there's Also the Girl from Split and Unbreakable
Yes, and the blondie played Emma in the new adaptation.
@Mr. Censored 3.0 yeah i get what you're saying
@@JR-sx3gl and she was in the Witch (Robert Eggers 2015) and season 5 of Peaky Blinders
@@OK-yy6qz She actually did a great job in "The Witch" IMO.
God, this looks boring. And not even a cameo by Safespace or Snowflake.
Leave Safespace and Snowflake alone! Leave them alone!! *whimpers with snot running down my nose*
There apearence would have solidified this movie as a comedy
These New Mutants crossing over with the new New Warriors... Sounds like either a real horror movie or a comedy.
I simped for screen time before it was cool 😤
@Deadpool imagine if he could start a war because he hacked someones online account, he could literary cancel anyone he wants because he should basically have unlimited access to the internet
“It’s kinda like Event Horizon... if Event Horizon was shit” I’m dying, hahaha
That opening analogy was just beautiful 🤣 Nice to hear someone who isn't afraid to mince words and tell it how it is. Liked and subbed.
Disney seems to be really specializing in dumpster fires.
It's a bold tax strategy. Don't have to pay tax, if ya don't make profits ever again.
I used to actually look forward to Disney stuff when I was younger. My God, what a 180 I’ve taken since. Now anytime I hear Disney is involved I expect it to be a soulless cash grab at best.
Fox made it, not Disney. This came along as baggage for their deal buying Fox, so why not make a little bit of moolah out of it by releasing it?
I think they're still thinking Twitter is a large viable customer base.
You're damn right about the amount of potential the concept held. Also, I hope that you've seen The Witch by now, Anya Taylor-Joy deserves some respect (if not for this particular role).
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The basic problems: 1) An evil corp who wanted assassins would pay the kids and give them nice facilities. So then you could build suspicion of it being too nice and generous, and move to spooky stuff happening. 2) Illyana would just march everybody out through one of her portals, because admittedly hellworlds are not fun but being held prisoner is also bad. You could fix this by having Illyana not be able to portal yet, or having her magic fairly weak for some reason, thus tempting her to the classical deal with the devil that got her in trouble.
suburbanbanshee or make use of your bad guy. A key part of many horror stories is the unkillable nearly invincible monster, that needs every surviving person to band together to even survive. And they were clearly going for a thriller/horror vibe. So imagine, the doctor was the one keeping them prisoners and her barriers were so potent that even in her sleep she was untouchable. Even the powers of the kids get suppressed into weaker forms inside the barriers. This would excuse the teleport problem. And we could have gotten a montage of the kids retelling how they used their powers against her at some point and she didn’t even take a scratch. Really pump up that feeling of a god amongst men. And the finale was all about the kids, trying to even land a scratch on her. Then she looses her patience with the kids and is about to use her barriers to suffocate them all, and the fear powers of the main character then create that bear that they fought in the film. It’s claws scratch and bite the shield, until a tiny hole is made. That is when the main characters fear powers finally reach her. And we see a large man slapping a young girl, telling her that this is for her own good. The doctor freezes at that memory and loses focus for just a moment. Which is when the bear attacks once more and kills her. Also fix their traumatic experiences. The MCs fear of bears made no sense. How difficult would it have been to write a scene where she was out camping with her family and then a bear attacked. Forcing her father to save him and her in the car, while the mother was too slow and the bear kills her. Then the bear attacks the car, scratching and breaking everything until it tires out and just drags the now dead mother into the forest. This all took me 5 minutes to come up with. How difficult is this?
@@frankwest5388 Not to mention the lack of death. I haven't sen the movie but I highly doubt they killed any of the kids, if they were planning on sequels. With only the evil Doctor lady around as a villain it doesn't leave a lot for the horror elements to kill. It takes a special kind of horror film to be convincingly scary when no one ever dies. As for the evil corporation it does make no sense. These kids had some impressive mutant powers, yet their training seemed to be third string budget at best. It wasn't bad enough to be "truly horrible" something like the weapon X program with it's triggers, torture and psycho conditioning. But it wasn't the kill them with Kindness route either. They didn't even attempt to look like a legitimate school to the kids nor buy them off with luxuries and gifts. If it was just crazy test to see what worked it would of been more convincing if the kids all had crappy powers the Evil people felt were expendable for testing mutants with. But even that would require some kids to have "accidents" as the test prove lethal.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming I might be in the minority here but i would have loved to see the Kids try to resist and fail and beeing turned into said assasins. But not with this generic bullshit but with things different for each of them. One is beeing lured with kindness and so on. It would have been something to go and or pounce on when the x-men fight them for example. Giving each of them a reason to fight for the cooperation. They really could have used the fears the kids have and for example made the cooperation fix/safe them. Or if they want them to become good x-men then use the doctor as some sort of final boss. She seemed so very useless the entire film
@@frankwest5388 Ok, no lie. When I read "until a tiny hole is made." I started smiling, getting excited, and rooting for them in your scene. In two short paragraphs, you wrote a better version of this movie than they did. Good on ya.
I would make ilyana a double agent who changes by the end
It’s never a Critical Drinker video without references to Tatiana 😂
I think he secretly likes Russian girls.
@@christopherregan1654 You must be new-not a secret.
@@christopherregan1654 well, who doesnt?
Drinker, you must review a movie with Tatiana and Natalya
She must be proud of him
1:35 WOW! This guy can sing!
Your review’s way more entertaining than the actual movie
Dark Phoenix: killed the franchise New Mutants: flogging the dead horse
Yes
It was already dead at Apocalypse.
Holden I can agree on that one. 👍
@@holden6104 Yup.
So did we actually see the same movie? Because the film I saw last night at my local drive-in theater here in Texas was more like Logan than it was Sark Phoenix. Additionally I like the fact they took the time to actually shoot something that looked like an actual film and not some CGI proof of concept for an upcoming toy commercial as was the case for most these X-Men films.
Why is every generic teen girl protagonist named Danny nowadays?
Her name was Danielle Moonstar in the early 80s when the comic first came out
Coinciedence for this one. Her name was Danny in the 80s
Female protagonists have to have male nicknames... Charli, Danni, Max, Kris, etc. Usually on intro for that little haha moment that you thought he was a guy but its actually a girl you wicked misogynist.
Idk, though it is quite Overusing.
"Angus McHaggis-Kilt, officer": worth remembering for when plod, as part of his enquiries, asks for one's name.
That first 35 second analogy was pure gold! 🥂😎
New movie title: Angus McHaggiskilt and the Dumpster of Fire
Is this a reference to the 4th harry potter book
I'd actually watch that movie.
I like this cinematic universe XD
Hell yeah!
Yer a diverse character Angus
Finally, someone calling out Sophie Turner. She always looked really fake to me in the X-Men films. I don't if it's her or the direction or the script. And of course you didn't mention the forced lesbians, not to be called homophobic. But really Hollywood, 1 couple in every group doesn't have to be homosexual. Especially when there's no point for the plot. The reality is much less than that. But then again, not every person in a group have to be of different ethnicities. When I see forced things like this, unfortunately I know the story will probably be shit. Never failed me.
Would every cast member being white have improved this film for you?
@@leonkuwata4510 arent they all white ?
Yet again, they took two characters with a deep friendship in the comics, with a complicated history where they date the same people, and made them lesbians. Because in woke world you can't have close friendships without going full gay. That was a problem with recent marvel comics, where every deep female friendship started having shades of sexual tension, and every gay characters was automatically attracted to every other gay character. As usual, instead of making a new ip or new characters, they do a lazy change to the existing lore.
@genisaero some people just prefer more traditional things. I know I liked DC's legends of tomorow until after the second season everyone just started becoming gay for no reason.
Its the attempted American accent that put me off her. God that film was dog shit.. wasn't the director involved with fantastic 4 ...that was dog shit n all. Havn't seen this 1 yet ...not fussed. I guess i dnt need to now lol
I've been reading The New Mutants since the '80's and just watched the film, it's worth seeing in my opinion. Good review by C.D., he makes some excellent points. They do a pretty good job in introducing these five mutants and are mostly loyal to the source material as far as the personalities and powers are concerned, it could be a great series. In the books they're actually like a student branch of the X-Men, part of Professor Xavier's school so this film could be like prologue to their main story.
"It probably won't be remembered at all." How right that statement was as when I started to watch the New Mutants I had totally forgotten that I had already watched the review of it.
Maisie Williams: "I want to branch out from _Game of Thrones..._ I think I'll try _X-Men."_ Sophie Turner: "Yeah... don't."
Almost all the GOT actors are stuck as the roles they played as. I'm pretty sure John Snow didn't want it
@@clampmotosua1789 she is his kuhween
"The only thing that matters is the characters´ pronouns." Twitter.
And forcing, threatening and abusing everyone to submit to the cult mantra.
@Ivaiyo Ivanov She has them, bleep boop etc.. :)
@Ivaiyo Ivanov she self identifies as a fucking badass
Yes!! EXACTLY what I wanted in a movie, Maisie Williams doing a dodgy Scots accent and Anna Taylor Joy doing a dodgy eastern European accent (a la Elizabeth Olsen) with a lazily written lesbian love story written into the storyline... yay diversity!!
Angus McHaggiskilt made me choke on my food from laughing. Well done.
"...But all is not well in discount Hogwarts!" _Right_ to the heart of the matter - perfect!
"Discount Hogwarts" is my JKR tribute band name.
These characters aren't really new; I was reading this book in the 80's. The only oddity is why Illyana didn't teleport them out of there.
That is the movie's biggest plot hole. I actually thought it was decent, and the actors were decent with the characters.
bruh like wtf, why didnt she port them all out rofl
Limbo time!
I mean, if you wanna go through literal hell to get out of metaphorical hell... (haven't watched the movie, just saying)
For the most part, the characters seem to be fairly close to their comic book inspirations, which were created in the mid 1980s. Illyana could open portals, Dani could manifest people's fears, Sam could fly (though he couldn't control his speed or direction very well and tended to just go in a straight line until he hit something, hence his superhero name Cannonball), and Rahne could turn into a wolf. Roberto, however, did not have fire powers. He could absorb sunlight, which turned him into a black silhouette and gave him super strength, hence his superhero name, Sunspot. Dani and Rahne had a telepathic link that was never really explained, but it only worked when Rahne was in wolf form (because Native Americans are close to nature or something). Rahne was also deeply religious and came from a very conservative background, and considered her powers a curse. There was also a Vietnamese girl named Xian who could control people's minds.
Roberto does not shoot fire, he has super strength powered by sunlight. Dani and Rahne are both straight. Lockheed is Kitty Pryde's dragon, not Ilyanna's (although they had some adventures together). Sam is lanky and blond, not sallow and ugly. And the Demon Bear actually WAS Dani's parents. I loved this story when I was in high school, now it's been sh*t on like everything else.
This franchise is notorious for shitting on the source material because the directors are too lazy. Half its movies changed a ton of shit from the comics that no one asked to be changed. Bryan Singer did this with the entire original trilogy (Brett Ratner obviously had to continue his story), and Gavin Hood made what should’ve been a dark, gritty Wolverine origin into a goofy, bloodless family comedy. The only movies they got somewhat right were First Class, The Wolverine, Days of Future Past, Logan, and the Deadpool movies.
4:11 Go away now, statistically-improbable lesbians.
Oh come on. A devout protestant Scottish white girl and a native girl so racist she refused to seek help from "A WHITE!" (Xavier) until after she killed her own family with her powers are the most likely lesbian couple ever. 😂
Ugh. Lesbian characters without any of the fun parts.
Also (i didn't watch the movie) aren't the kids supposed to be.. well.. kids? Doesn't this kind of put kids into sexual context thus getting close to pedophilia propaganda?
They turned two characters gay to fill in the safe diversity quota.
That's Hollywood for you Get the gay for the clicks
Which is odd considering original New Mutants team also had Karma who was a lesbian.
Ever notice how all these cartoons and movies have lesbians shoved in yet not a gay male? Hmmmmm
@Will H Lol look at modern western animation then, it's literally mostly all lesbians. I guess it's a sad truth about guys but the yaio fangirl audience would love that. >People are often like that Stop going on Twitter then
They were aiming at the oscars lol
I remember when it was hyped up, extremely over hyped. and then nobody talked about it. I completely forgot about it and JUST NOW remembered it existed because our dear Drinker reminded me.
Illyana Rasputin is such an endlessly more interesting character in the comics, but just about as easy to make justice of as Dr Doom.
The Drinker sees more clearly with pints of whiskey in his gullet, than others see on a clear day.
Hope he shares some whiskey with me!
Sophie Turner has dead eyes. She has one expression, whether her character is happy, being tortured, sad, etc. TV movie released as a movie.
I like redheads, but this one...!
Calling this a TV movie is insulting to TV movies. There have been some amazing ones on the Sci FI and BBC channels. Some the favorite off the top my head were White Dwarf and the Discworld movies like Color of Magic or Hogfather.
i feel like she could be good with a better director who knew how to draw out her talents. but ya, all characters shes played so far have been rather emotionally flat.
@@FractalPrism. I just felt she was a type cast actor. A good dirrector/casting agent could pick her for a perfect role and she'd do amazing. Out side of that though she's garbage. Kind of like Nicolas Cage. Amazing actor when the deadpan face is required like in Lords of War... not so much in dramatic roles like Ghost Rider.
I don't think Sophie Turner was in this movie
I would love to see Angus McHaggiskilt turned into a show!! :D
"Its like a good night out in Portland". living in Oregon, that one hit different.
Dani and Rahne were never lovers in the comic just friends that’s why the romance doesn’t work
Dani boyfriend was X man Nate Grey.
Yeah, and Dani and Sam both bounced in and out of relationships throughout the New Mutants comics.
They had a strong and different connection because of their mutations and backstories. They were never lesbians. But Disney is obsessed with sex.
@@rafaelmorena2151 DIsney didn't even make this movie, you numbskull.
@@nathanmanning5219 Fine then. Hollyweird is obsessed with sex. Happy now Mr. Troll?😏
"Unwelcome dribble of piss", you sir, has just literally and perfectly described the current entire Hollywood industry itself.
5:25 that white blue and green book on the shelf behind her is Watership Down by Richard Adams, it's my favorite book of all time. Picture the the Odyssey but set in 1970's England and about rabbits. That's the paperback version I had in high school before the spine started falling apart, I've upgraded to the special edition hardcover with hand-painted images. My neighbor had an original copy from the 70's, that was the first one I ever read.
I’m still caught on Thor’s hook, love how he has that Imrpov-DevilMayCare-Attitude.... Now I am an old school 1980s New Mutants fanboy, I bought the first issues and was hooked while also loving the uncanny X-men post-Phoenix/Present Brood and Alpha Flight (well, mainly the character arc cameos, the alpha flight team kind of was a dribble except for Sasquatch and Puck...). This movie - I had to watch three times. Three times because after 15 minutes I just couldn’t go on, then I started where I left off and got another 30 minutes into it until I remembered I had to...do something else...then a week later I watched the rest because, I wanted to see if anything happens in the movie. Nothing happened. It wickedly sucked
I laughed at the Portland reference. Well played.
Me too lol
This is the future fate of Star Wars under Disney, sad little woke movies full of feminism and diversity and hope to fool people into buying it as it has a brand name slapped on it!
What do you mean "future fate"?? It's already happened.
Okay tbh, that 'people' and 'into' word ar being cross away from each other is sooooooo baaaaaaadddddd i still can't believe you did that
The sad thing is, it works!
"you can always edit out the black people" - Walt Disney i think
@Adrijana Radosevic I agree with that statement 100% where the hell are the aliens? At least the Mando has different aliens that we get to see
The thing about a little piss in the end is too true. I felt it. The world doesn't know the struggles of the circumsized men.
Being kidnapped and kept against your will in a strange place and not able to communicate with the outside world is actually a legit X-Men recruitment strategy.
I love how they don't care about these characters actually being based on the actual comic book. Illyana is Colossus' little sister, but I'm just a nerd to bring that up. But everyone else has a narrative to push.
Most film audiences don't care about faithfulness to the the source material if they haven't already read the source material. The X-men literary body in particular has a huge cast of characters.
@@jrd33 but i mean the average audience does seem to like when you link in something to a something in a previous film set in that universe, and Colossus has already been in an X-men universe movie, well dead pool.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 Oh, right. Fair enough. Surprised that wasn't mentioned.
Having read this comic series in the early 80s, it sounds like they butchered the original story. Too bad.
I can’t believe the Drinker went outside, man the world is screwed
He’s drunk. Why would he care?
Beer run.
He have to go outside sometime to buy more alcohol
These characters and thier associated back stories were all written in the early 80's by Chris Claremont, and was by all accounts was a pretty good series. They tackled lots of touchy subjects, and IMO, had one of the more fun adventure/story arcs in New Mutants: Special Edition #1 (and concluding in X-Men: Annual #9... both illustrated by Art Adams). It's too bad that the creators of this movie didn't take some more time, care and maybe a few risks with this one, because there really was some great material back then.
"The giant destructive black hole of entertainment that they've become" - Perfect description of Disney
“It’s like a good night in Portland.” That got me laughing!
Saaaaame
i definately cracked up outloud from that
Portland is DEAD so is Seattle and ALL of California business and people leaving NEVER coming back thanks to democrats and blm and antifa
Yeah that Jab landed home for me.
@@Godzillafan1980 They can have the left coast. We can always just take a big saw and cut them adrift.
Keep ticking those boxes of diversity, representation, cliché, and 'just cause' without thought, Disney, and we'll watch you keep on failing.
This was filmed before Disney bought FOX
They make movies to the specifications required by the Oscars which mandate all this crud.
Unfortunately the sheer mass of consumers will pay for that shit. The masses are stupid ..i lost my hope for a change back to good written stries and chars years ago... and therefore i do have some shiny stars of surprise ...like the amazin series "The Boyz" ..cool chars, thriving story, enough action and a well sketched world set. :-)
Remember kids diversity is bad.
@@michaspringphul Blah, blah, blah. There are well written stories everywhere. You're just not looking hard enough. Just because some of the mainstream installments might suck, doesn't mean indie films do.
4:18 I love the use of one GOT character punting another GOT character.
I've been in a bar's restroom that looked exactly like this with the exception that the lavatory bowl was stopped-up and over flowing too. I was drunk, but not so drunk to do a double take, because I was pissing in it along with another guy laughing his head off!
I knew it was over the minute I heard they casted Maisie "you're either a feminist or you're sexist" Williams
We'll get the last chuckle in the end when she's alone, uglier(she's not a looker, I'll tell you that), angry, and embittered.
@Benjamin McCann things can change, and if shes a hypergamous female then her having a boyfriend now doesn't mean she might have one later. We'll have to see.
For me X-Men: Days of Future Past was the last X-Men movie, Logan and Deadpool 2 were the last movies in the X-Men universe.
Agreed. I don’t even see Logan as a film exclusive to the Fox X-Men universe, I think it works as a nice companion piece to the general X-Men franchise as a whole and works as a solid genre piece too.
Logan was the end of the franchise. A very solid end in my opinion. X-Men is dead, long live X-Men.
Logan is a great film
I walked out of the first X Men movie 20 years ago. Never seen the rest except Logan which I was convinced to see.
Same. I miss great X-Men movies.
0:06 is my life and blood now. I love it.
Theres a slight EQ frequency ring going on in the narration throughout this video. (Somewhere in the mid to top end). Try adding a 31 band EQ to the audio and raising each fader until you find it then lower that fader completely. It’ll probably be the same for all audio you record as its coming from the room you’re recording in......Just makes for a nicer experience for your listeners/viewers. Thanks for all the consistently brilliant content.
I was a teenager in the 1980's when the New Mutant comics were released. Hollywood changes the characters so much from the originals I have to Google who the people in these movies are supposed to be.
As cliche as the name Illyana Rasputin is, the character was created back in 1975. Comicbook characters were always on the nose when it came to stuff like that. What’s easier to believe in a printed format: a Russian woman named Jennifer Smith or Illyana Rasputin? You go with the cliche. 🤷🏼♀️ Comic book characters created in years past were always pretty unapologetic when it came to the use of that kind of stuff.
Anya Taylor Joy has the perfect look for the character too, a shame it was wasted in this movie. Who knows when we'll actually see the character again on film.
@@zkeletonz001 Probably in 10 years when the MCU finally decides to use mutants
@Grimnir Evil is kinda off an eufemism when you realize she ate part of Pixie's soul once
As good of a writer as Chris Clairmont was, names were never his strong suit.
Exactly, at least Ilyana isn’t a Communist manifesto spewing literal Stalin Man Of Steel stereotype her brother Piotr is
I appreciate acknowledging good creative possibilities. Its sad it didnt work out.
"she's training them to be assasins for an evil corporation who do evil corporation things..." no way! (bill & ted) lol
Disney, twenty years ago: _"We put time and effort into our movies for all ages to enjoy."_ Disney now: *_C O N S U M E P R O D U C T_*
Even if their modern animated movies are decent, their live action movies are shit. Not including MCU because I mostly don't feel like MCU is part of Disney and I wish it wasn't at all.
Worst part is, the lesson the studio execs are going to take away from this film is not "We played it too safe" but "I guess we didn't play it safe enough"
This is really good video... The analogy at the start. The fact that you acknowledge not only the flaws of the movie but also the few pros.
2:55 - That would definitely be Stan Lee. The man painted with a bright but extremely limited palette when it came to creating names and backstories, and always went for the easiest, lowest-hanging fruit available ("Now whaddo I call this here _black_ fella? I know: I'll call him Black Pantha! I saw _that_ on the TV once!"). No disrespect, but he was to comic-book writing what Paul McCartney was to song lyrics. I also found it funny that he named Black Widow "Natasha Romanov", even though by Russian naming convention it should be "Romanova", and the movies didn't bother to correct it.
Another crappy x men movie. Really sucked just like the last one
i played a game predicting the plot of the movie and came up with about the exact same story but instead of a corporation it was the shadow king
@voyage1969 deadpool counts as xmen and those movies are good
@voyage1969 i would rank all the x-men movies 1: Logan 2: Deadpool 2 3: Deadpool 4: Future Past 5: First Class 6: X2 7: X-Men Not Worth Your Time/Bad: Last Stand, Apokolyps, Origins Wolverine, The Wolverine, Dark Phoenix, New Mutants
@@landocalrissian3969 I would add The Wolverine (2, the one in Japan) to that list, but yes.
I don’t even get why they even bothered with this film. It’s not like any of the characters are beloved comic book heroes like a lot of the X-Men are. They’re a bunch of nobodies, C-list on their best day.