Good to see you are using accurate measurements there mate, but I think you need a bigger one 🤣👍🍌
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Hey... it's that guy! LOL.
@ShainAndrews Жыл бұрын
I know you metric guys have a hard time with inches, so I thought that might help. If you ever have a bigger one in your store, let me know, I'll be the first one to get it 😉
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
The obligatory banana for scale! :D
@sicstar Жыл бұрын
Bananas 🍌 r used Kurtis is somewhere not far behind 2 give his Input ! 😁😁 🇨🇦
@BradleyWilliams-to2oc Жыл бұрын
First, his tool post reminded me of CEE then came the scale.
@thepubliceye Жыл бұрын
As a young design engineer in the rubber and plastic industry I designed rubber mills for Francis Shaw & Joseph Robinson. This was everyday stuff back then 800hp gear sets, huge bronze water cooled bearings on the journals 90” wide 24” dia rolls some micro finished other’s helical grooved. Loved every minute before I went or king for Loctite. Then of course we in the U.K. began our great decline and deindustrialisation, now there’s no trace of these once colossal companies and all that skill base is almost all dead and buried. Makes me so sad that so few today have work they can take pride in, beats the work in a call centre by some margin and what’s the point of burger flipping by comparison. Nothing like the smell of cutting oil.
@tomtd Жыл бұрын
Tom: Well, that is what communists do to countries.
@wrongfullyaccused7139 Жыл бұрын
Kurtis is going to love that ruler usage
@Sumitso Жыл бұрын
I have to place an order for a bigger one 😉
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
A banana ruler, did Kurtis send you one, they are very accurate, good to see you using it for layout work. 8mm grooving tool working well too!
@stewartfrye Жыл бұрын
I bought it from their store, but they did send me some extra goodies.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
I still say I want a micrometer that reads out in thousandths of a banana :D
@mrz80 Жыл бұрын
Don’t mock the inch, fractions are absolutes, base 12 is a pretty good mathematical system, ask a mathematician. More difficult no doubt than base 10. Engineering wise the very first standards were set by Joseph Whitworth in 1841 and he measured to one millionth of “a banana” and designed the most efficient threads in terms of clamp to applied torque, to that date. His measuring device could show the expansion of a metal bar by the heat from a finger, 140 plus years before everyday accuracy of “a thou”. True engineering genius. Remember too that with base 12 and fractions there’s no rounding errors commonplace in metric, the blight of pcb layouts.
@tomtd Жыл бұрын
I like the CEE Banana ruler jaja good one
@tomlayne5842 Жыл бұрын
Im so glad you guys are able to upload that stuff. Really nice to see such huge parts being made! Good job and keep it up!
@sicstar Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to show as much as I can. Not always possible, though.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Such tasks should only be left to real professionals! Excellent work! 👏👏👏👍🛠😎 Best regards from Dresden! 😎
@michaelkoch2109 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
@@johnzenkin1344 Well, cnc won't do anything by itself.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
That was one of the most stressful jobs in a long time. I don't know if it was the size or the price tag for the forgings ($70,000 for two pieces)
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Yes. Both.
@richardeholder Жыл бұрын
Nice work man. Those forgings are mint. What baffles me is the lack of scaling on the diameter tolerances.
@steelwheelsminnesota Жыл бұрын
Measure twice cut once, in your case it's magnified! Nice job, from a non- machinist!!
@mikemoore1821 Жыл бұрын
@@steelwheelsminnesota the bars have clearly been rough turned somewhere else.
@shawnhuk Жыл бұрын
The combination of "oh sh*t thats expensive" and "oh sh*t if i break it it gonna take 3 months to get spare material and we never hear from the customers again" also maybe "oh sh*t if i drop that thing we gonna need a new machine or workshop floor/crane" is quite gnarly yes. Only had 2,75 tons on the machine so far but that thing was stainless so price wise some muscles were clenching indeed :| Excellent job as usual there man!
@sicstar Жыл бұрын
Hello,my name is Guilherme I really like your videos, I'm Brazilian, I work with cnc and you are an inspiration to me, keep teaching and encouraging us thank you very much. Sorry for my English but I don't know how to speak it. I used a translator to try to get this message across.
@guilhermeronchi7084 Жыл бұрын
OH LOOK!!! A banana ruler! AWESOME!
@jimhal5553 Жыл бұрын
Always awesome to see the turning happening on those huge parts. Almost as awesome as those blue chips are beautiful.
@Cryzophylax Жыл бұрын
I love seeing the chips turn blue. Such a pretty and satisfying color.
@IstasPumaNevada Жыл бұрын
Giving the live center a workout! Good to see the precision CEE Banana ruler measuring instrument.
@davidpook5778 Жыл бұрын
You gotta love that kenametal tool mate 👍 great video and thanks for sharing 👍
@johnlawler1626 Жыл бұрын
The weight a relatively small center will carry is amazing.
@Barnekkid Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it looks a bit scary.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
It's a amazing job, i watch yours videos every week, congratulações Chris.!!!
@mauricioboldrin1512 Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Got a fix8 on order right now... when I saw the gear on floor I thought I was looking at my old workplace :)
@stephenvindich75327 ай бұрын
Loved seeing the banana rule from CEE Australia. Been watching you for a long time and love what you do and yes I'm from Tasmania Australia.
@muddlersworkshop Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've been watching Kurtis probably from the beginning, so I thought I'll use their banana ruler in my video. They gave me a few pointers with all that KZhead stuff, but I just don't have the time to spend on all the editing.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Is that a cutting edge engineering banana ruler?
@iolithblue Жыл бұрын
Sure is.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Great Job !
@matiasrabab5684 Жыл бұрын
oh daaaaamn, using the FIX8... heaaavy cuts incomming !
@steinarne7910 ай бұрын
Да это работа высочайшего уровня...
@user-zs9nt6ns9y10 ай бұрын
beautiful work! Id love to see that big lathe in action! things'a beast!
@Donkusdelux Жыл бұрын
It's not really my department, but I'll try to get more videos from that lathe.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMaj understood~
@Donkusdelux Жыл бұрын
Love the CEE banana ruller, had a great laugh =)).
@shoppy00 Жыл бұрын
They are pretty accurate 😉😅
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Those are some big bananas!
@mikewhitcomb6558 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job.
@nardaoeletronica Жыл бұрын
My Wife: Why are you watching work when you're not at work? Me: I don't know . . .
@mortimas413710 ай бұрын
When you start watching work at home you should seek help 😅
@ChrisMaj10 ай бұрын
The big lathe makes that thing look like a toy! 😯
@TheMetalButcher Жыл бұрын
I know, right.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
When you’re cutting shafts does it run out any?
@masoncorbin68198 ай бұрын
Takes a large set to do that work. Amazed a small footprint machine can hold that weight.
@martinnorbeck46573 ай бұрын
good job Chris Maj
@TrPrecisionMachining Жыл бұрын
From the sound of it it needed bigger tool holders and tools but you make do with what you have.
@davidchavez81 Жыл бұрын
Нас не удивишь токарем в рубашке!! Я лично видел ещё и в ГАЛСТУКЕ. Привет иностранцам!
@PSLSPB2 ай бұрын
I'm impressed that tail can withstand this, almost 5000 pounds shear force
@AK-vx4dy Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, I'm looking at it thinking what would happen if it broke.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
nice content and good work
@MS-xh1xt Жыл бұрын
Great workdone💯
@emmanueloluwaseye13026 ай бұрын
That second machine made these look like rc car parts!
@wheelitzr2 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this thing is a beast.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Machinists use the hardest tools! 😉
@lucky8003 Жыл бұрын
Chris. I was feeling sick watching you tap all those numbers...Give me a .200" leadscrew dial and I felt better lol Nice Work
@theessexhunter1305 Жыл бұрын
I know, I know. I'm just that one finger typing guy. 🤣
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMaj and me. Take care.
@theessexhunter1305 Жыл бұрын
WOW,AMAZING😲😲😳😳
@akulawien1975 Жыл бұрын
I'm curios the reason why you finished the center section diameter after the milling work? And on a different machine. Was there something special about that center section that I missed? Was it because the Hankook didn't have enough X travel to reach that section? Love your work. You are certainly making the most out of the Fanuc control. No CAM required! All the best, Tom
@oxtoolco11 ай бұрын
Yeah, the Hankook didn't have enough swing.
@ChrisMaj11 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMaj Bummer. You had to use the old clunker to finish that nice arbor shaft. That old girl looks like she was rode hard and put away wet. Blue chips and chatter for days. Cheers, Tom
@oxtoolco11 ай бұрын
Dang, what was the finished weight in bananas?
@urbanbasementoperator Жыл бұрын
Really nice work. Could you please let me know how you prevent chuck jaw marks on the final piece because we struggle alot with marks upto. 5 mm deep when we tighten heavy pieces on CNC lathe. Your earliest response is highly appreciated.
@devdhingra357 Жыл бұрын
0:38 as you can see, I have a center in my chuck, and most of the weight is resting on it. On the finish surface, I'll use brass or aluminum shims to prevent any jaw marks.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Had to laugh at the beginning Chris. If the crane went haywire and dropped that piece of material it would splintered those 4 x 4's like they were toothpicks. I know , I know , CYA right?
@cyclingbutterbean Жыл бұрын
I love the ruler lol
@ericluba6287 Жыл бұрын
It's pretty accurate.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Loved the video. Quick question, though. Do you have a 4-way tool post mounted to the existing toolpost without any support? Am I just not seeing that right?
@pyro1596 Жыл бұрын
It's just kind of a tool post extension. Check out this video kzhead.info/sun/Y6-umdWcqqJtimw/bejne.html at 3:42 there's a better view.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
1:52 - Curious regarding the centers' ability to hold that weight. 1:57 - Is that weight conditioned upon some tail-stock spindle extension? 4:17 - Curtis will be amused. 12:06 - Starting at 5" and ending at 11-1/4", there appears to be a taper with the base dim of 20.424", but I don't see a major dim. Illusion? 14:39 - Didn't think the 'floor' of that groove was going to stay in that condition. 16:26 - Do you keep your mics under controlled temps?
@currentbatches6205 Жыл бұрын
It says in the book 11000lbs max, I'm sure there's some room to spare. Kurtis said that I'm finally using some real measuring tools. 5" that's a center of the bearing 11 1/4" center of a radius. Mics are on the shop most of the time.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMaj "
@currentbatches6205 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMaj THX for the reply. "It says in the book 11000lbs max, I'm sure there's some room to spare" - Probably a good guess; their legal department doesn't want to argue over a couple of kilos. "Kurtis said that I'm finally using some real measuring tools." - Pretty sure you speak both Imperial and Metric, as does Kurtis, but it's a point of amusement for him as it is, I'm sure, with you and me. "5" that's a center of the bearing 11 1/4" center of a radius." - will have to take another look; rare to miss a feature datum on a drawing but it has happened. Would you please give link to a drawing/time where that is clear? "Mics are on the shop most of the time." - Hope you understand this is NOT a criticism of you or your techniques, but if a customer spec'd +/- .001 on >20", I'd want to know the measuring specs or ask for the use of the customer's mic. Bit of background: Grew up where kids learned how to run machine tools by osmosis; absorbed from the air. By age 14 or so, was using a 20"X 60" (memory, but close) flat-belt-driven lathe and learning how to deal with worn out head stock babbit bearings,. And learning to use a KT horizontal mill. At 18, a major machine tool mfgr gave me the responsibility to do the final inspection and sign offs on machines worth (at that time) ~$250,000. I Had no idea what that responsibility meant at the time, but not a one of my machines ever got questioned by any customer; they WERE within spec. No brag; fact.
@currentbatches6205 Жыл бұрын
This is Very big job ,job is Very beautfull,🇧🇷
@USITEC151278 Жыл бұрын
Great job sir i am from india
@shivshankarverma815211 ай бұрын
Good video
@kapilsingh33319 ай бұрын
Hey Chris. Have you noticed all of your recent videos have the audio shifted to the left side only? You might be using an editor template so this gets repeated. It has been this way for a couple of months now. Thanks!
@JRo250 Жыл бұрын
You really end up going through more material in one part than Ive done in a whole year. that would be way too stressful for me.
@BloopTube Жыл бұрын
Ahh cool, I was wondering how many bananas it was!
@shutupmeg176 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris happy Sunday. Thank you for this new video of machining a huge axis of five tons probably intended for the navy or heavy industry? I saw that you put the banana ruler of Kurtis the Australian from the EEC on your piece, it's funny because I follow his videos like yours on You Tube, it's no coincidence. See you soon to see your great videos Chris thank you.
@ICA17887 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to fanuc so i wonder, what means the "P100" at the end of the lines?
@renetr6771 Жыл бұрын
Wow that’s a big lump of steel, Chris am I reading the colour of the steel correctly?? Has it been case hardened? Or is that just the colour of the steel as it came to you? Also a shout out to Kurtis of CEE for sending you a banana ruler love it 😊😊 As always Chris just wonderful work that you do, I never got to play at stuff that big.
@andrewtetley3883 Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't have been case hardened.
@4418CARLOU Жыл бұрын
I think the forging company did some sort of heat treatment after roughing. Yeah, I bought one for CEE store just for fun. They did send me a few other things.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
How do you go about running such heavy parts? Seems kind of terrifying, what would you set your pressure and is there any tips you can give to roughing heavy materials? Currently at my shop we have a guy that will retire at the end of the year and he roughs huge heavy shafts. I want to learn how to deal with such big parts but they seem intimidating any tips?
@michaelarias7324 Жыл бұрын
The chuck and the tailstock are all manual, so kind of go by feel. Keep your jaws tight, or the piece might spin on you when taking big cuts. Don't drop it on your lathe.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Couldn't afford a lathe big enough let alone the lump of steel so I'll just watch 👍
@crazymtbrider Жыл бұрын
Ahhh you know you’ve maxed out the travel of the lathe when you’re OD turning with a boring bar!
@shawnhuk Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's why we've moved the rest of it to the Big Lathe. I finished all of the complicated stuff, though.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
I wonder what is the cost of machining that per unit?
@fdkfskfkvmk441254741 Жыл бұрын
Ну красиво, красиво.👍
@user-kq4xc4bg9c Жыл бұрын
Did the Tailstock bearing get hot? Nice video man👌
@franz_k6000 Жыл бұрын
It only gets a little warm when running at high rpm.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
arbor for bench drill?
@victimovtalent6036 Жыл бұрын
Thats a big ass lathe.
@carlsavage614 Жыл бұрын
First. 🤠 This is a big boy job. Awesome work man.
@raindeergames6104 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Don't drop that bugger on your toes ! 👍👍👍
@swanvalleymachineshop Жыл бұрын
1:57 does that mean, that the center can hold 5 tons or that the part can weigh up to 5 tons when its a straight cylinder? what if one side weighs 4.9 tons and the other 100kg and the 4.9 tonms are on the center side?
@ipadize Жыл бұрын
Good question. I think they just mean 11000lbs/ 5 tons between centers.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Masz bardzo ciekawa pracę. Chciałbym tydzień z Tobą popracować. 😊😊😊
@matuluka Жыл бұрын
May I ask what company you work for?
@JOHNATHAN880AYD Жыл бұрын
WOW, now that’s a micrometer!
@stanbrow Жыл бұрын
Ooo, mgmn zmieniony na poprawny łamacz! 😀 Czyżby moja zasługa mojej sugestii w jednym z poprzednich filmów? 😀 Teraz wiór ładnie zawija 😉
@PawelSzkoda Жыл бұрын
A nie, to szerokość płytki mnie zmyliła ☹️ Nadal mgmn-m?
@PawelSzkoda Жыл бұрын
Ta płytka dosyć ładnie robi, tylko zależy od obrabianego materiału.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Must have touched something on your camera. Rocking the metric left channel audio.
@ShainAndrews Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think I have to invest in some real camera, not just the phone. It's just that I don't really have time to play around with that stuff.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMaj That is exactly why I don't post videos. I helped my disabled nephew with his cameras and mounts, even built him an editing computer. A professional videographer donated a $5k camera. That's when I learned about left only audio, which opened the audio rabbit hole... So I don't post my work because I have plenty of irons in the fire to keep me busy.
@ShainAndrews Жыл бұрын
the material was already roughed to that shape when you got it?
@mattiasarvidsson8522 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we usually get rough turned forgings.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Perfetto ok.
@mauroclemente2469 Жыл бұрын
Watch software we use for programming please tell me please
@AyanKhan-sh2vw3 ай бұрын
رائع جدا جدا
@user-tm1oi3ce7h Жыл бұрын
Bananas
@brantnorthman9040 Жыл бұрын
The kind of parts you really don't want to screw up. One little mistake will cost a fortune.
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
Ładne bydle ... szacun ze ta tokarka dała rade :D ile skroiłeś materiału ? Bedzie z Pół Tony nie ? :D Pozdro !
@dawszelka5461 Жыл бұрын
No dosyć ładna sztuka była. Nie ważyłem po obróbce, ale trochę poszło do wiór.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
👍
@muhammadmamatkarimov Жыл бұрын
Which insert are you using for this material ?
@sourabhchavan3843 Жыл бұрын
4:31 Kennametal fix8 KCP25B
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
will old rolls be built up turned and returned to service?
@pulsenpal7882 Жыл бұрын
No, it's all scrap.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
After years of abuse, they've developed small cracks in them. We might be able to use some of that material for some repair jobs.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Czemu zasłaniasz niektóre średnice na rysunkach? Jakiś własny patent firmy? Chciałbym zobaczyć jak coś takiego się montuje. Jeśli na czop wału coś jest osadzone ze wciskiem to jak to zrobić?
@Kamil_Klukowski Жыл бұрын
Bo chciałem tylko pokazać te które w tym czasie obrabiałem. Może uda mi się coś nagrać z montowania reszty rzeczy. Na ten wał nachodzi jeszcze większe koło, będzie nagrzane i później nałożone.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Was this machined in a hard state?
@car9167 Жыл бұрын
I think the forging company did some heat treatment after roughing, and that's why the color.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
They keep changing the picture of what is mounted in the lathe? One minute it is a machined portion in the chuck and the next instant it is a not machined portion in the chuck. What are they trying to pull?
@wrongfullyaccused7139 Жыл бұрын
Who's they?
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMaj : Whoever made the video. Gross inconsistencies aimed at people who did not attend vocational school fifty years ago to become tool and die makers. By the way, your response indicates you did not do the research required to honestly answer my question. As a proper response for your arrogance-Goodbye, permanently.
@wrongfullyaccused7139 Жыл бұрын
Is it power chuck?
@MrKikicat5 Жыл бұрын
4-jaw manual
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Браво 👏 👏 👏 👏 👍👍
@tokar035.70rus6 ай бұрын
Why is all the sound only coming out the left channel of my headphones?
@palpytine4 ай бұрын
I had some issues with my camera.
@ChrisMaj4 ай бұрын
Looking at this "11,000/ 5 tonnes" piece, somehow this Russian word for a "finished piece" (or "workpiece") came to my mind - which is "detail", деталь. : )
@MrKotBonifacy Жыл бұрын
какие языки вы еще знаете?
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMaj "...a jak to wywiad dla Dziennika Telewizyjnego to bez kozery powim pińcet" ;-) kzhead.info/sun/iNixd5WFb3mBiXk/bejne.html Angielski, rosyjski - jako że "za komuny" był obowiązkowy. Z czasem zapomniałem większość - ale jak zacząłem oglądać rosyjskich tokarzy (o specjalności macgyveryzm ogólny) jakieś dwa lata temu to trochę mi się odświeżyło. No a po 24. lutego "roku ubiegłego" to na okrągło rosyjskojęzycze njusy i blogi... "unforciunatly" (więc "pełna reaktywacja"). Germańską szprachę "piąte przez dziesiąte co szóste słowo" fersztejen - pozostałości z niemieckiego w technikum. Więcej grzechów nie pamiętam... ;-)
@MrKotBonifacy Жыл бұрын
Czy to był wałek z Fiata 500?🙂
@CncFrezar Жыл бұрын
Probably made from Fiat 500's ... lots of em :D
@sicstar Жыл бұрын
Z Fiata 126p
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMaj 😁
@CncFrezar Жыл бұрын
A banana scale! Lol!
@bumblebeebob Жыл бұрын
Reddit level Pro.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Hey Chris , The rule of Thumb Oops Excuse me, Bananas is Always Good !! CEE- Kurtis ,Australia 🇦🇺 Take Care B Safe 🇨🇦
@BradleyWilliams-to2oc Жыл бұрын
11:15 skończył się zakres ruchu w X? 😁
@Michal_Sobierajski Жыл бұрын
Za duża średnica, nie dałem rady przejechać pod kawałek
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Co było nie tak ze starymi?
@Michal_Sobierajski Жыл бұрын
Swoje już odrobiły. Miały małe pęknięcia.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
Don't want to screw that one up, it won't fit under your bench!
@rayp.454 Жыл бұрын
Next video
@kapilsingh33319 ай бұрын
Whoa looks like you need a bigger Banana Scale eh? LoL
@shortribslongbow5312 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have to place an order for a bigger one. Maybe Kurtis can pull some strings.
@ChrisMaj Жыл бұрын
C'est une blague toutes ces reprises d'usinage pour être parfait et tout ça pour voir les pièces rouillées à la fin ???!!! 👍👍👍
@geremdu859 ай бұрын
495 kilos dizemos no Brasil.
@isverque74 Жыл бұрын
Bannanas
@maciejhof Жыл бұрын
you only use the control to program on . if you are interested in cad/cam mastercam x4 then I can help you it is fantastic for what you do
@gertkristensen645110 ай бұрын
We do have Mastercam, but we mostly use it for milling. I don't really see the need for cad/cam for what I do.
@ChrisMaj10 ай бұрын
@@ChrisMaj ok,, I often use it and mix cycles from the machine with the iso codes, it works fine, I can't backedit on fagor, so the thread cycle is easier to do on the machine and quick to edit , I often do rough and finish on mc and add threads cycle on the machine .. it is impossible to do something like that on Fagor,..fagor 8055 does everything in steps, otherwise you have to draw the contour for finish on the machine, it is difficult and takes a long time because it is an old control
Good to see you are using accurate measurements there mate, but I think you need a bigger one 🤣👍🍌
Hey... it's that guy! LOL.
I know you metric guys have a hard time with inches, so I thought that might help. If you ever have a bigger one in your store, let me know, I'll be the first one to get it 😉
The obligatory banana for scale! :D
Bananas 🍌 r used Kurtis is somewhere not far behind 2 give his Input ! 😁😁 🇨🇦
First, his tool post reminded me of CEE then came the scale.
As a young design engineer in the rubber and plastic industry I designed rubber mills for Francis Shaw & Joseph Robinson. This was everyday stuff back then 800hp gear sets, huge bronze water cooled bearings on the journals 90” wide 24” dia rolls some micro finished other’s helical grooved. Loved every minute before I went or king for Loctite. Then of course we in the U.K. began our great decline and deindustrialisation, now there’s no trace of these once colossal companies and all that skill base is almost all dead and buried. Makes me so sad that so few today have work they can take pride in, beats the work in a call centre by some margin and what’s the point of burger flipping by comparison. Nothing like the smell of cutting oil.
Tom: Well, that is what communists do to countries.
Kurtis is going to love that ruler usage
I have to place an order for a bigger one 😉
A banana ruler, did Kurtis send you one, they are very accurate, good to see you using it for layout work. 8mm grooving tool working well too!
I bought it from their store, but they did send me some extra goodies.
I still say I want a micrometer that reads out in thousandths of a banana :D
Don’t mock the inch, fractions are absolutes, base 12 is a pretty good mathematical system, ask a mathematician. More difficult no doubt than base 10. Engineering wise the very first standards were set by Joseph Whitworth in 1841 and he measured to one millionth of “a banana” and designed the most efficient threads in terms of clamp to applied torque, to that date. His measuring device could show the expansion of a metal bar by the heat from a finger, 140 plus years before everyday accuracy of “a thou”. True engineering genius. Remember too that with base 12 and fractions there’s no rounding errors commonplace in metric, the blight of pcb layouts.
I like the CEE Banana ruler jaja good one
Im so glad you guys are able to upload that stuff. Really nice to see such huge parts being made! Good job and keep it up!
I'm trying to show as much as I can. Not always possible, though.
Such tasks should only be left to real professionals! Excellent work! 👏👏👏👍🛠😎 Best regards from Dresden! 😎
Thank you! 👍
@@johnzenkin1344 Well, cnc won't do anything by itself.
That was one of the most stressful jobs in a long time. I don't know if it was the size or the price tag for the forgings ($70,000 for two pieces)
Yes. Both.
Nice work man. Those forgings are mint. What baffles me is the lack of scaling on the diameter tolerances.
Measure twice cut once, in your case it's magnified! Nice job, from a non- machinist!!
@@steelwheelsminnesota the bars have clearly been rough turned somewhere else.
The combination of "oh sh*t thats expensive" and "oh sh*t if i break it it gonna take 3 months to get spare material and we never hear from the customers again" also maybe "oh sh*t if i drop that thing we gonna need a new machine or workshop floor/crane" is quite gnarly yes. Only had 2,75 tons on the machine so far but that thing was stainless so price wise some muscles were clenching indeed :| Excellent job as usual there man!
Hello,my name is Guilherme I really like your videos, I'm Brazilian, I work with cnc and you are an inspiration to me, keep teaching and encouraging us thank you very much. Sorry for my English but I don't know how to speak it. I used a translator to try to get this message across.
OH LOOK!!! A banana ruler! AWESOME!
Always awesome to see the turning happening on those huge parts. Almost as awesome as those blue chips are beautiful.
I love seeing the chips turn blue. Such a pretty and satisfying color.
Giving the live center a workout! Good to see the precision CEE Banana ruler measuring instrument.
You gotta love that kenametal tool mate 👍 great video and thanks for sharing 👍
The weight a relatively small center will carry is amazing.
Yeah, it looks a bit scary.
It's a amazing job, i watch yours videos every week, congratulações Chris.!!!
Glad you like them!
Got a fix8 on order right now... when I saw the gear on floor I thought I was looking at my old workplace :)
Loved seeing the banana rule from CEE Australia. Been watching you for a long time and love what you do and yes I'm from Tasmania Australia.
Yeah, I've been watching Kurtis probably from the beginning, so I thought I'll use their banana ruler in my video. They gave me a few pointers with all that KZhead stuff, but I just don't have the time to spend on all the editing.
Is that a cutting edge engineering banana ruler?
Sure is.
Great Job !
oh daaaaamn, using the FIX8... heaaavy cuts incomming !
Да это работа высочайшего уровня...
beautiful work! Id love to see that big lathe in action! things'a beast!
It's not really my department, but I'll try to get more videos from that lathe.
@@ChrisMaj understood~
Love the CEE banana ruller, had a great laugh =)).
They are pretty accurate 😉😅
Those are some big bananas!
Excellent job.
My Wife: Why are you watching work when you're not at work? Me: I don't know . . .
When you start watching work at home you should seek help 😅
The big lathe makes that thing look like a toy! 😯
I know, right.
When you’re cutting shafts does it run out any?
Takes a large set to do that work. Amazed a small footprint machine can hold that weight.
good job Chris Maj
From the sound of it it needed bigger tool holders and tools but you make do with what you have.
Нас не удивишь токарем в рубашке!! Я лично видел ещё и в ГАЛСТУКЕ. Привет иностранцам!
I'm impressed that tail can withstand this, almost 5000 pounds shear force
Sometimes, I'm looking at it thinking what would happen if it broke.
nice content and good work
Great workdone💯
That second machine made these look like rc car parts!
Yeah, this thing is a beast.
Machinists use the hardest tools! 😉
Chris. I was feeling sick watching you tap all those numbers...Give me a .200" leadscrew dial and I felt better lol Nice Work
I know, I know. I'm just that one finger typing guy. 🤣
@@ChrisMaj and me. Take care.
WOW,AMAZING😲😲😳😳
I'm curios the reason why you finished the center section diameter after the milling work? And on a different machine. Was there something special about that center section that I missed? Was it because the Hankook didn't have enough X travel to reach that section? Love your work. You are certainly making the most out of the Fanuc control. No CAM required! All the best, Tom
Yeah, the Hankook didn't have enough swing.
@@ChrisMaj Bummer. You had to use the old clunker to finish that nice arbor shaft. That old girl looks like she was rode hard and put away wet. Blue chips and chatter for days. Cheers, Tom
Dang, what was the finished weight in bananas?
Really nice work. Could you please let me know how you prevent chuck jaw marks on the final piece because we struggle alot with marks upto. 5 mm deep when we tighten heavy pieces on CNC lathe. Your earliest response is highly appreciated.
0:38 as you can see, I have a center in my chuck, and most of the weight is resting on it. On the finish surface, I'll use brass or aluminum shims to prevent any jaw marks.
Had to laugh at the beginning Chris. If the crane went haywire and dropped that piece of material it would splintered those 4 x 4's like they were toothpicks. I know , I know , CYA right?
I love the ruler lol
It's pretty accurate.
Loved the video. Quick question, though. Do you have a 4-way tool post mounted to the existing toolpost without any support? Am I just not seeing that right?
It's just kind of a tool post extension. Check out this video kzhead.info/sun/Y6-umdWcqqJtimw/bejne.html at 3:42 there's a better view.
1:52 - Curious regarding the centers' ability to hold that weight. 1:57 - Is that weight conditioned upon some tail-stock spindle extension? 4:17 - Curtis will be amused. 12:06 - Starting at 5" and ending at 11-1/4", there appears to be a taper with the base dim of 20.424", but I don't see a major dim. Illusion? 14:39 - Didn't think the 'floor' of that groove was going to stay in that condition. 16:26 - Do you keep your mics under controlled temps?
It says in the book 11000lbs max, I'm sure there's some room to spare. Kurtis said that I'm finally using some real measuring tools. 5" that's a center of the bearing 11 1/4" center of a radius. Mics are on the shop most of the time.
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@@ChrisMaj THX for the reply. "It says in the book 11000lbs max, I'm sure there's some room to spare" - Probably a good guess; their legal department doesn't want to argue over a couple of kilos. "Kurtis said that I'm finally using some real measuring tools." - Pretty sure you speak both Imperial and Metric, as does Kurtis, but it's a point of amusement for him as it is, I'm sure, with you and me. "5" that's a center of the bearing 11 1/4" center of a radius." - will have to take another look; rare to miss a feature datum on a drawing but it has happened. Would you please give link to a drawing/time where that is clear? "Mics are on the shop most of the time." - Hope you understand this is NOT a criticism of you or your techniques, but if a customer spec'd +/- .001 on >20", I'd want to know the measuring specs or ask for the use of the customer's mic. Bit of background: Grew up where kids learned how to run machine tools by osmosis; absorbed from the air. By age 14 or so, was using a 20"X 60" (memory, but close) flat-belt-driven lathe and learning how to deal with worn out head stock babbit bearings,. And learning to use a KT horizontal mill. At 18, a major machine tool mfgr gave me the responsibility to do the final inspection and sign offs on machines worth (at that time) ~$250,000. I Had no idea what that responsibility meant at the time, but not a one of my machines ever got questioned by any customer; they WERE within spec. No brag; fact.
This is Very big job ,job is Very beautfull,🇧🇷
Great job sir i am from india
Good video
Hey Chris. Have you noticed all of your recent videos have the audio shifted to the left side only? You might be using an editor template so this gets repeated. It has been this way for a couple of months now. Thanks!
You really end up going through more material in one part than Ive done in a whole year. that would be way too stressful for me.
Ahh cool, I was wondering how many bananas it was!
Hi Chris happy Sunday. Thank you for this new video of machining a huge axis of five tons probably intended for the navy or heavy industry? I saw that you put the banana ruler of Kurtis the Australian from the EEC on your piece, it's funny because I follow his videos like yours on You Tube, it's no coincidence. See you soon to see your great videos Chris thank you.
I'm new to fanuc so i wonder, what means the "P100" at the end of the lines?
Wow that’s a big lump of steel, Chris am I reading the colour of the steel correctly?? Has it been case hardened? Or is that just the colour of the steel as it came to you? Also a shout out to Kurtis of CEE for sending you a banana ruler love it 😊😊 As always Chris just wonderful work that you do, I never got to play at stuff that big.
It wouldn't have been case hardened.
I think the forging company did some sort of heat treatment after roughing. Yeah, I bought one for CEE store just for fun. They did send me a few other things.
How do you go about running such heavy parts? Seems kind of terrifying, what would you set your pressure and is there any tips you can give to roughing heavy materials? Currently at my shop we have a guy that will retire at the end of the year and he roughs huge heavy shafts. I want to learn how to deal with such big parts but they seem intimidating any tips?
The chuck and the tailstock are all manual, so kind of go by feel. Keep your jaws tight, or the piece might spin on you when taking big cuts. Don't drop it on your lathe.
Couldn't afford a lathe big enough let alone the lump of steel so I'll just watch 👍
Ahhh you know you’ve maxed out the travel of the lathe when you’re OD turning with a boring bar!
Yeah, that's why we've moved the rest of it to the Big Lathe. I finished all of the complicated stuff, though.
I wonder what is the cost of machining that per unit?
Ну красиво, красиво.👍
Did the Tailstock bearing get hot? Nice video man👌
It only gets a little warm when running at high rpm.
arbor for bench drill?
Thats a big ass lathe.
First. 🤠 This is a big boy job. Awesome work man.
Thanks 👍
Don't drop that bugger on your toes ! 👍👍👍
1:57 does that mean, that the center can hold 5 tons or that the part can weigh up to 5 tons when its a straight cylinder? what if one side weighs 4.9 tons and the other 100kg and the 4.9 tonms are on the center side?
Good question. I think they just mean 11000lbs/ 5 tons between centers.
Masz bardzo ciekawa pracę. Chciałbym tydzień z Tobą popracować. 😊😊😊
May I ask what company you work for?
WOW, now that’s a micrometer!
Ooo, mgmn zmieniony na poprawny łamacz! 😀 Czyżby moja zasługa mojej sugestii w jednym z poprzednich filmów? 😀 Teraz wiór ładnie zawija 😉
A nie, to szerokość płytki mnie zmyliła ☹️ Nadal mgmn-m?
Ta płytka dosyć ładnie robi, tylko zależy od obrabianego materiału.
Must have touched something on your camera. Rocking the metric left channel audio.
Yeah, I think I have to invest in some real camera, not just the phone. It's just that I don't really have time to play around with that stuff.
@@ChrisMaj That is exactly why I don't post videos. I helped my disabled nephew with his cameras and mounts, even built him an editing computer. A professional videographer donated a $5k camera. That's when I learned about left only audio, which opened the audio rabbit hole... So I don't post my work because I have plenty of irons in the fire to keep me busy.
the material was already roughed to that shape when you got it?
Yeah, we usually get rough turned forgings.
Perfetto ok.
Watch software we use for programming please tell me please
رائع جدا جدا
Bananas
The kind of parts you really don't want to screw up. One little mistake will cost a fortune.
Ładne bydle ... szacun ze ta tokarka dała rade :D ile skroiłeś materiału ? Bedzie z Pół Tony nie ? :D Pozdro !
No dosyć ładna sztuka była. Nie ważyłem po obróbce, ale trochę poszło do wiór.
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Which insert are you using for this material ?
4:31 Kennametal fix8 KCP25B
will old rolls be built up turned and returned to service?
No, it's all scrap.
After years of abuse, they've developed small cracks in them. We might be able to use some of that material for some repair jobs.
Czemu zasłaniasz niektóre średnice na rysunkach? Jakiś własny patent firmy? Chciałbym zobaczyć jak coś takiego się montuje. Jeśli na czop wału coś jest osadzone ze wciskiem to jak to zrobić?
Bo chciałem tylko pokazać te które w tym czasie obrabiałem. Może uda mi się coś nagrać z montowania reszty rzeczy. Na ten wał nachodzi jeszcze większe koło, będzie nagrzane i później nałożone.
Was this machined in a hard state?
I think the forging company did some heat treatment after roughing, and that's why the color.
They keep changing the picture of what is mounted in the lathe? One minute it is a machined portion in the chuck and the next instant it is a not machined portion in the chuck. What are they trying to pull?
Who's they?
@@ChrisMaj : Whoever made the video. Gross inconsistencies aimed at people who did not attend vocational school fifty years ago to become tool and die makers. By the way, your response indicates you did not do the research required to honestly answer my question. As a proper response for your arrogance-Goodbye, permanently.
Is it power chuck?
4-jaw manual
Браво 👏 👏 👏 👏 👍👍
Why is all the sound only coming out the left channel of my headphones?
I had some issues with my camera.
Looking at this "11,000/ 5 tonnes" piece, somehow this Russian word for a "finished piece" (or "workpiece") came to my mind - which is "detail", деталь. : )
какие языки вы еще знаете?
@@ChrisMaj "...a jak to wywiad dla Dziennika Telewizyjnego to bez kozery powim pińcet" ;-) kzhead.info/sun/iNixd5WFb3mBiXk/bejne.html Angielski, rosyjski - jako że "za komuny" był obowiązkowy. Z czasem zapomniałem większość - ale jak zacząłem oglądać rosyjskich tokarzy (o specjalności macgyveryzm ogólny) jakieś dwa lata temu to trochę mi się odświeżyło. No a po 24. lutego "roku ubiegłego" to na okrągło rosyjskojęzycze njusy i blogi... "unforciunatly" (więc "pełna reaktywacja"). Germańską szprachę "piąte przez dziesiąte co szóste słowo" fersztejen - pozostałości z niemieckiego w technikum. Więcej grzechów nie pamiętam... ;-)
Czy to był wałek z Fiata 500?🙂
Probably made from Fiat 500's ... lots of em :D
Z Fiata 126p
@@ChrisMaj 😁
A banana scale! Lol!
Reddit level Pro.
Hey Chris , The rule of Thumb Oops Excuse me, Bananas is Always Good !! CEE- Kurtis ,Australia 🇦🇺 Take Care B Safe 🇨🇦
11:15 skończył się zakres ruchu w X? 😁
Za duża średnica, nie dałem rady przejechać pod kawałek
Co było nie tak ze starymi?
Swoje już odrobiły. Miały małe pęknięcia.
Don't want to screw that one up, it won't fit under your bench!
Next video
Whoa looks like you need a bigger Banana Scale eh? LoL
Yeah, I have to place an order for a bigger one. Maybe Kurtis can pull some strings.
C'est une blague toutes ces reprises d'usinage pour être parfait et tout ça pour voir les pièces rouillées à la fin ???!!! 👍👍👍
495 kilos dizemos no Brasil.
Bannanas
you only use the control to program on . if you are interested in cad/cam mastercam x4 then I can help you it is fantastic for what you do
We do have Mastercam, but we mostly use it for milling. I don't really see the need for cad/cam for what I do.
@@ChrisMaj ok,, I often use it and mix cycles from the machine with the iso codes, it works fine, I can't backedit on fagor, so the thread cycle is easier to do on the machine and quick to edit , I often do rough and finish on mc and add threads cycle on the machine .. it is impossible to do something like that on Fagor,..fagor 8055 does everything in steps, otherwise you have to draw the contour for finish on the machine, it is difficult and takes a long time because it is an old control