My Toughest approach of 2017! ILS to Minimums
Now that this video has been posted a few days, I feel it necessary to respond to the number of comments that have told me I busted minimums. Let me lead off by saying, if you have watched any of my videos from the last several years, you will know that I fly very conservatively. You won't find me blasting through thunderstorms or playing it loose with the regs. I've been flying for over 35 years without incident to include a full military career flying the F-16. And I intend to remain incident free.
Some people have mistakenly been led to believe that the "Minimums, minimums" call came right at minimums on this approach. It did not. The Collins Proline 21 allows you to set either baro min or radar min as your minimum altitude. That altitude will drive the minimum call. The selector allows you to set that altitude in 10' increments. The decision height for this approach was 1122. The baro min was set at 1130. On the approach at 42:50 time stamp, you can start to see some cloud break up and see the ground below. That camera is looking DOWN. As I transition to the front camera, you can see nothing but clouds. That camera is not looking down but actually looking up in line with the angle of attack of the aircraft. In that camera, at 42:56 you can start to see some ground below even though the camera is looking forward and slightly up. AT 43:06 I get the minimums call. At that same time I call the runway environment in sight. You can hear me say "There it is" referring to the runway. At 43:08 I click off the autopilot and land uneventfully.
The cameras because of their own limitations and the angle they are pointed do not pick up the runway environment until shortly after I called it out. Let me say with great emphasis. I would not proceed below minimums. You are simply to close to the ground to be doing anything that stupid. And, speaking of stupid, had I actually busted minimums, the last place you'd find a person who has spent the last 35 years devoting their life and passion to flying is posting the videos on social media.
Now, I know a few of you are "experts" out there. You list all your qualifications as you state your flawed opinion as to why I busted minimums. But, you must keep in mind that the camera does not pick up what the eye does. Before you go and throw your convictions on me that I went below minimums, go film your own approach to minimums and see if the camera picks it up at the same time as you do. But until you do that, please reserve your comments.
Minimums are minimums. Don't ever proceed below them without having the runway environment in sight. Never. It's really that simple.
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As a pilot with 50 years experience. Let me concur with you that no minimums were busted. Been there. Done that. Nice job. 😎😎
Right on Doug, if people would read the reg very carefully, they would understand there were no minimums broken. The day I got my instrument rating, I had to fly back to my home airport and my approach looked exactly like this. Scared me a bit, but didn't break any regs.
Is there a short answer fo, what does it mean "no minimums were busted"?
@@jdmoore minimums are the lowest altitude where if you cant see the runway, you have to go "missed" and retry the approach
@@HyperDrive45 not being a pilot, just enjoying these videos: what happens when theres fog around the airport and theres no way you can see the runway directly? Do you have to go to a different airport then?
@@Jannikheu yes that is correct. Flying in these conditions requires a flight plan, talk with air traffic control, and planned alternate airports. Getting your instrument rating so you can fly in these IFR conditions is an expensive endeavor.
This is where 1,000’s of military flight hours in all conditions become your best friend.
aman bro. you are right on i flew from 1978- 1983 i had a cherokee 140 and a warror my two flight instructors were ex-milayary they were awesome
@@michaelgiordano5938 Damn you can have instructors in Mircrosof Flight Simulator !! ?
wish I could just keep hitting thumbs-up on this comment.
I thought I had it rough when I once had to stick my head out my car window in the fog just to see the divider line on the street to steer correctly. That landing made me nervous just watching it. You fully had confidence in your instruments to make a great landing. Great ending comment to know your plane.
First video of actually down "to minimums". Great job. Love watching you fly.
In Alaska we call weather like that: Tuesday.
OldCoastie725 and to think some places get that weather for months at a time.
Why Tuesday?
Jean François he means it’s just another day of the week with the same weather.
OldCoastie I Flew in and out of Kodiak Space Base USCG Air Station in C-130's for 3 yrs. I Rodger that!
Yup. Looks okay to me but I would miss the half inch of rime a minute we get around here, on a good day.
That was pure skill and disciplined preparation! Well done
Thank you for your service. I can't believe how crisp and clear this video is. Thanks for taking the time to record, edit, and post. I hope to see more.
Always enjoy watching your videos Greg!! Fun to live my flight dreams through your aircraft.... Thx again!! Fly safe....
Greg. As a 50 year pilot with lots of similar approaches, I think you were right on. Too many people are “Back Seat” drivers with no actual experience. I really enjoy your videos. That way I can remember and relive my own approaches. Thanks 😎😎
AGREE!
Well said
I never get tired of flying along with ya Greg. Each time ya put a video up I’m there flying with ya. Very enjoyable.
Huge thanks for taking us along. From someone who sits as a passenger, that was fascinating to watch! Cheers!
Excellent! It felt like I was in a jump seat--heart pounding! That sure is a cool feeling when you break out lined up. Well done sir.
Enjoy watching you flying, damn good pilot. Keep up the great work.
You earned a like within the first 14 seconds for the killer timelapse. Love your videos!
Very nice flight Premier 1, nice to see how calm you were right down to minimums. Enjoyed it. Thanks.
Very informative video, basic and educational. Thanks for taking the time to video this flight. Great piloting. All the best.
Impressed with your patience with a new pilot! Great ambassador for flying!!
A FANTASTIC BLANKET OF CLOUDS AN INCREDIBLE FLIGHT AND EXCITING TOO!...THANKS PREMIER 1!
Your videos are incredible and very interesting. You’re very generous sharing your time with all of us. And most of all thank you for your military service.
I never tire of watching this approach Greg. It's what it's all about
In a word: IMPRESSIVE! I love the professionalism that you embody as I am sure it bleeds through to all prospective or current pilots.
Can't believe I'm watching entire flights on KZhead! I envy you pilots!
I just found your channel last week and I’m combing through all of your videos. Great channel for perspective pilots like myself...I learn a lot here! This landing was CRAZY! Great job staying calm and knowing your aircraft!
Always nice to break out right at the minimum, perfectly lined up. Nice job.
About as close as you could come to minimums! I love this video. I have watched it many times but for some reason never left a comment. You are a "cool" pilot. Great video!
"Minimums are minimums. Don't ever proceed below them without having the runway environment in sight. Never. It's really that simple". Probably the best explanation of a minimum I've seen in years. Thank you sir. Subs.
Very instructive; I especially like the split screen showing both the outside and what you're doing in the cockpit. Great video as always.
Greg, appreciate your professionalism and how far ahead of the aircraft you are! Thank you.
Wow. I was watching safely from my easy chair and still got sweaty palms on that one.... Great job, Greg👍🏻
Nice job. Also excellent written intro, speaking as an old CFI, excellent instructional video. I don't fly any more (busted medical .. heh) ... but videos like this make me wish I did. Thanks for posting it!
Great video. Loved the professionalism and confidence in your airplane/ skills
A long time after the fact but enjoyed this video as i do all of yours, you make things seem so effortless all ways very calm and in control something for all pilots and non pilots to aspire to thanks for the video again .
That was a awesome minimum IFR approach! I know it looks “very hairy” on video and better In person but that was a very impressive demonstration of superior airmanship! Nice work.
Professional use of autopilot.
Man, THAT was some great IFR. I know I'm 2 years too late but great video!
Thanks for taking the time to post all the angles, lots of cameras, and nice and smooth. And also kudos for taking that young fella out. I'm sure he enjoyed it. You talked about simulators, and yes some of the have elaborate setups. I do the ATC part on Vatsim and it's fun as well. keep on flying high. thanks again.
I am binge watching P1D videos for awhile and started with this one. I really love your professional attitude and attention to detail Greg. As always thank you for bringing me along with ya.
Another great video Greg! I took my instrument check ride last Saturday, 1/13. Success! Keep showing those IMC approaches. Take care.
Congrats Stan!
First of all, thank you for your service. I was enlisted Air Force. I appreciate your straightforward response to those who criticized you. I would not like to try to be an "expert" to a professional pilot such as you. Another thing, I live over on the west side of Indiana, so you aren't that far away from me. I didn't realize that you were based here. Safe flying and once again, thank you for your service.
Wow! When I saw the ground come up I was ready to bail! You were pretty cool my friend! Great flying!! Love your videos, keep 'em coming. Fly safe.
What amazing video, Thanks you so much for allow me to ride with you. At one moment I thought I piloting the plane, my adrenaline was so high, watching how low the fog was. Thank you for the videos I just subscribed to the channel.
This should be labeled "Toughest Pre-Flight!" In the seat. Out of the seat. In. Out. In. Out. Out door, switch on battery, in door, latch door. Sit down. Start engines.... Flying can be exhausting!
Figured you guys would get a laugh out of it.
BUT you are very FLEXIBLE!
I believe P1D's motto should be "Up for anything, Ready for everything!"
Taxiing in to end the flight, Greg has a couple questions for his new right seater. Q: "Hey, has this been your first private jet ride?" A: "Yeah." Q: "OK, first, uh, first approach to minimums in the front seat?" A: "Yeah." Greg: "OK, got some firsts in." Right Seater Thinking: 'Boy, I'm sure glad he didn't ask me how close I approached pooping my pants during the last moments of my very first right seat private jet ride. Whew....'
Dave Bayles It makes my back ache just watching the movements. Us old guys aren’t made for a squeeze in and out.
Love the acceleration on take off, that thing moves!
What is the name of this bird
@@farzana6676 - Beech Premiere 1A (might be 1 and not 1A)
@@jarodmorris611 Thanks. I see that company filed for bankruptcy and only produces prop planes now.
@@farzana6676 - Beech was bought by Raytheon, then parts of it Raytheon sold, etc. It's been kind of crazy the last few decades. My father worked for them doing avionics and sheet metal for 25 - 30 years (not counting layoffs).
One HELL of an approach, sir! Love the videos!
Loved your calm demeanor throughout landing, I'm glad I ride in the back!
thats crazy man, literally the moment they got the minimums call the perimeter road of the airport popped into view. as close as it gets
Incredible! I've always wanted to fly, but I'm always amazed at tower conversations. For me that would be the hardest part!
It's not that hard once you know the linguo, most of it is repeating what the controllers say to you
They always, some do, not all, talk too fast. I fly with son in a 152 and I am always asking what they say?
This approach looked like a nailbiter! Great skills on display!
Just seeing you do this difficult landing gave me confidence that it can be done. You are a very good mentor.
I chuckled in the beginning - that is ME to a TEE, hahaha! I'd be in and out of that seat 6x before I remembered everything ... on EVERY flight! At 5'4" & 160 I'd probably have a bit of an easier time getting between the seats, though. I could probably stand there without ducking ... :D Man, that was some SOCKED-IN fog there! WOW - that was a first for me as well. Never have watched a video of IFR right to minimums before. Have to admit, I probably would've been a little nervous on that one. :) Nice job, as usual! Love when the clouds are right below you at cruise - I get a better perspective of just how fast you're going. Love that! I could even see the difference in takeoff performance over your summer videos - came through and away from the clouds REAL fast! Must've been fun - I know that would never get old for me. Thanks for the virtual ride, as always! :)
Thank you!
I'm certainly that way getting ready to drive my car somewhere... esp. on a long trip!
There is no greater feeling than knowing you can fly in IMC and land safely. I was in awe when I accomplished my first real instrument landing at minimums in a Piper Aztec E. As Greg mentioned at the end, the first item on the checklist is always the pilot's comfort level in flying in IMC especially at minimums. Same thing goes for M.E.L'.s Don't fly just because your working equiment is legal. If there are items/systems not working that make you feel unfcomfortable then get them fixed before you fly.
I have watched this video so many times! It is my go-to video on ILS approaches which are seemingly beyond the norm. You sir are the man! Great job and thank you for a really great video! I love all your videos.
thank you and as always a very enjoyable vid/flight...Thanks for allowing me along. DaveJ
This is the second of your videos I've watched. But this was particularly relevant to me, as I worked every one of those Chicago Center sectors through which you flew (and many more besides). I was a controller at ZAU for 25 years (with 5 more before that at another facility). I'll tell you a little inside joke. AHMED sits on V10 in the PLANO sector. I didn't have need to use it very often, but when I did, I always pronounced it as "ACHMED", as it might be in a language with "ah" in the word. I don't know if anyone else ever did, but it made me chuckle when I heard it in your clearance. I've been gone for 20 years now, so I didn't recognize any voices, but 127.07 and 135.75 were definitely frequencies I spent a lot of time working from 1973 through 1997. Oh, and I'm also an instrument rated pilot, so I get off on that, too. All of my training was in the age of dinosaurs with steam gauges ('66/'67), so all of that discussion of simulators also made me chuckle. One word defines the difference between the simulator experience and real airplane experience: Gs. Also might as well include control feedback, too, but nothing substitutes for bouncing around in the practice area on a partly cloudy day in South Florida during the summer.
LRod Peterson I just took my first flying lesson last weekend. There are no words that describe what happens to a simulator enthusiast who pulls back on the stick to take off and just feels it. Mind. Blown.
@@ryuhaneda As a flight simulator enthusiast, can you imagine sitting back seat on an L-39 Albatross. I had Janes FA/18 and I swear, watching the clouds, it was amazingly close. Though, only in sight. The G's, just don't come close, LOL. Hope you got your license - haven't started mine yet, but I hope to start soon.
Greg...your YT videos are fun and educational. Don’t let comments by self-appointed experts bug you! Keep the vids coming for those who appreciate your skill.
Agreed!
That was an incredible video. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ILS approach with such low clouds. You are truly a professional!
Your right seat guy was very lucky to experience that quality of real world flight experience!! Good job on the approach. I love your videos.
WOW - low no kidding. It reminds me of flying into Munich.
Hi, Greg! Your videos are interesting, informative, and entertaining, but most of all they are a significant contribution to safety consciousness in aviation. Your thoroughly professional approach is an inspiration to all of us who fly - and you allow plenty of room for having fun, too. Congratulations on your efforts and successes.
You know nothing about the man. If this is the best you have, take it somewhere else. Your comments are neither needed nor welcome. One more "keyboard maggot" with an opinion no one cares about.
JHO Jr. haha you could have just said “I’m jealous” and saved yourself a lot of typing.
@@masterspacetime2826 This is the stupidest comment I've read on the internet this week. And that's saying a lot.
HabuBeemer: What an ignoramus you are! Here is what I do know about Greg. He is the consummate professional pilot flying his own incredible airplane, sharing his high quality ideas and experiences with all of us. I, as a commercial/instrument pilot, am fully qualified to comment with authority on the value of his contributions, and they are the best. Further, Greg, as an officer and a gentleman, having served our country honorably flying the complex F-16, has defended our freedom with distinction. That’s all I need to know about this man.
@@pkettler Interesting Mr Kettler. Someone expresses a personal opinion different to your own, and on that basis alone, you brand them an ignoramus?
I always love revisiting this video, that call out at minimums minimums and almost and instant landing right out of the clouds gets me every time! Again nice job Greg...See ya!!
Another awesome flight I totally enjoyed! Blessings as Always!
Screw those who leave neg comments .. I love watching your vids !! very entertaining TY
and educational!
This is just another dream channel. I speak facts.
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Another most excellent production, Greg. If you will give me a heads up on your next trip to KSHV. Country Tavern ribs are on me.
I'm salivating already. Those are so good.
Oh forgot to give a shameless plug for my pals FBO at KDTN just across the river from KSHV. I note Tac air has a price of 4.80 for Jet A. tubreauxaviation.com has it starting 3.66 self or 4.16 fs.
Your record speaks for itself. Keep rockin - another GREAT video
Extremely good precision landing down to the minimums. Right on the money upon breaking out. Very impressive!!
Thank you SO MUCH for calling and canceling “as soon as practical” I wish everyone was as cognizant of the impact (especially on IFR days) as you were!
My pet peeve for sure. Not canceling IFR with any urgency. Safety of flight first though!
Premier 1 Driver absolutely fly your airplane first, as a controller at IND we always appreciate your quick cancelations!!!
I like how you and ATC are speaking to each other in a clear understandable dialogue and not two auctioneers in a bid war LOL.
I have watched the last 5 minutes of this video several times but your comments to the "experts" is still the most enjoyable part :-)
No sure how I ended up here , but I’m hooked on your vids! Well done captain! Very cool stuff
When you popped out of the cloud and the runway was less than 50 feet below you, well sir, my respect. I think your right seat was perhaps a little more apprehensive than he let on 👍
One of the downfalls of cockpits is having someone's "junk" shoved in your face upon entry/exit. Love your vids man!
That's why it's called a cockpit!
Enjoyed all aspects of the video, a very professional pilot!
This was freaking amazing! 👌🏼👍🏼😬. Loved every moment of this.
I'm not sure how anyone who WASN'T in the cockpit can declare with 100% certainty that minimums were busted. Like you said, what the camera angle sees and what the pilot sees aren't necessarily the same thing. How many times do cameras not pick up traffic, or not give a clear view of the field when the pilot has it in sight? Ahh the joys of Internet "experts"...
Dominick ATX I have asked several airline pilots if they ever went below minimums. All replied that they are expected to do as necessary to meet schedules.
@@sarahwatson7692 This is irrelevant here. The point that was being made was that this flight did not bust minimums. If everyone else and their uncle do it for schedule's sake, it's another matter altogether.
@@sarahwatson7692so true, people have no idea how Airlines cut corners everyday to save time on the ground and in the air. .
@@yuridelcastillo220 False. As an airline pilot with decades of experience, that statement is simply not true.
@@coriscotupi country and western duets
Your final comments hit it right on the head. You know your plane and fly way out in front and know where all the planes are in your area and where they are going. Spot on just an absolute great landing unlike the one against Stevo.
All the Navy guys thought my landing was better. ;-)
Great video as usual!
LSO...............Premier1 Call the ball....
As a Navy guy, I think your landing with Steveo/Baron Guy was good, 2 wire. LOL
Hooyah, Navy!
Nice video of a professionally flown approach and by the way thank you for your service !
Great and very professional flying and landing. And you never disappoint by the useful knowledge that you shared with not only your passenger but your family on KZhead. Once again as my grandfather once said... knowledge that is not shared is wasted knowledge. Thanks Greg!!!!!!
That's tellin' 'em Greg. I would have loved to fly when I was young, but in those days you need 20/20 so, I watch channels like yours to 'ride along' I am NOT an expert, but everything you do and explain seems very professional to me. Your postings are a treat whenever they appear. Henri
To see the runway seconds before actually hitting the ground is mind blowing......🤦♂️🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
You've got some dragstrip courage, man. Stayed cool the whole way in. Thumbs up
Nicely done! There is no substitute for competence and safety awareness. Very challenging weather scenario.
Years ago coming from west coast to JFK into a major blow we encountered almost exact minimum condition combined with heavy presip and 40 mph winds on a 747 after 35 min holding pattern we had a navy pilot that landed that monster fast and hard we where on the right side gear crabbing the wing tip was only what looked like inches off the the tarmac , put it this way I was mid ship looking down the runway !!!! A passenger !!! Every one was gasping and praying but my man got us down safely , God bless the navy
Wow... thanks for the video... i think i was starting to sweat while watching lol. I subscribed to watch more of your vids! Again... thanks for the "exciting" landing - whoaaaa!
Wore my eyes out searching for the ground, and, I stopped breathing, What a joy to watch a pro, thank you.
I had a view of the approach and landing, by the book. Well done Mike. I have flown Premiers since 2007 and this was perfect.
Scary as hell no matter your hours. Nice job, glad you're still with us.
I learned to fly at Rockford and have heard you numerous times flying around the country. The next time I hear you im giving you a shoutout. I am 25 and fly for the regionals.
Congrats! You are in a good spot!
Enjoyed the video! Thanks for sharing your flight.
precision flying at its best. well done!
What a beautiful day to fly! It got gray fast though! That jet looks amazing to fly!
Flew 29hrs in 150s back in 1967. Unfortunately, flying priced itself out of my budget. Did about 1hr under the hood, learned to trust instruments, but basically, always VFR. Great new technology, terrific equipment, but my stomach still tightens when I see only gray. Great relief when visual becomes reality around minimums. Have to hand it to you- great flying, calm resolve, and sage advice!
That’s not for me right now Greg. I’m going missed. It’s fun to watch you do it though.
Awesome video Greg, I found your channel after listening to you on pilot to pilot pod cast really enjoyed listening to your aviation history. And your channel has continued that thanks for sharing these videos. Blue skies
Great! I am glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
Beautiful job. One can feel your confidence . You know your aircraft like the family sedan. Thanks.
Thank you for sharing this amazing journey with us. Could you please tell me the maximum height this jet could fly and you were flying at? I might have missed about it during the video. Thank you.
I did catch a glimps of the ground on your left wing.
You gave your passenger his "first(s)" in fine style! I would have loved to have been there. It was tight, but you made everything look easy. Good show!
Coming in to minimums at 114 knots.....Way out of my league! Great Job Greg!
That approach was pretty damn impressive!! U r a 1st class pilot!,
One word for that approach - “wow dats low ceiling for sure!”.
I so enjoy watching you fly, also THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
It was an honor.
Great job ! That was very low. Perfectly done.