Bobby Marks' San Antonio Spurs OFFSEASON GUIDE 👀 Wembanyama is ROOKIE OF THE YEAR 🏆 | NBA on ESPN
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Bobby Marks' breaks down the San Antonio Spurs' 2023-24 NBA season including Victor Wembanyama being announced as NBA Rookie of the Year and gives insight into what moves he thinks the Spurs should make this offseason.
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Most people really didn't pay attention. The Spurs weren't as bad as their record suggests. They were messing around with point-Sochan and lost a ton of games as the result. They were playing Wemby at 4 next to Zach Collins which was disaster. The moment they moved Wemby to 5 and started Tre Jones, they were no longer a bottom feeder.
record would have been even better if they had played Devonte Graham instead of Tre Jones... and the started to use Mamu who obviously has great chemistry with Victor only in the last 10-15 games...I see 40 to 50 wins if they had not decided to tank
strategic tanking, get the first year to experiment as much as possible to study what they need around Wemby, very smart
@@childrenofshanghai9894no come on 40-50 wins you crazy they would be fighting for like 4th seed. In this west that is so stacked. I think 30 top
They ain’t making the playoffs for a few years
@@childrenofshanghai9894 no it wouldn't this is pure delusion. Tre Jones is also a way better PURE pg than Graham is. 40-50 wins? huh?
Spurs were quietly tanking. They could have easily won 30 games if they started Trey Jones at the beginning of the season. Without adding a big free agent they should be looking at 38-40 wins next season.
I'm not sure they were "tanking." They were definitely out there trying stuff, like seeing who fits with Vic and if they could develop Sochan as a point...
Coach Pop: "Shhh!!" 🤫
It was extremely smart as a way to develop Sochan. last year it was him working on his shot and at the beginning of this season they had him working on his passing. Now the last couple wins we had the ball movement was flawless
@@LokNex915 Agreed. That almost 20 game losing streak was painful, but it was worth *it for how they played the 2nd half of the season IMO...
Spurs had a win pace of 35 with Tre Jones starting. Even with the same roster, I think we see a massive win improvement
Finally! Thank you Bobby
“Sham-penny”
How are those trades working out for the Clips, Bucks, and Suns? Spurs should just wait for the 2025 FA's as that class is stacked.
For real, add the Lakers to that list as well
2025 is a big year. Both the draft and FA group are incredible. That's why I feel Spurs won't do much this year to cash in on that group.
@@gabrielcarrasco9078 I agree, and I feel like the Spurs won’t want to give up a lot of players to match cap either. I can see them doing something, but not for like a full caliber star.
Those teams have horrible management. They only look to win now. The Spurs always look to win more than one. Sons can’t even grab one clippers can’t even grab one bucks. Just grabbed one.
@@ImNotaLegend3 for the Lakers it has work great. Made it to the conferences finals last year and got a championship in 2020.
Zach collins gotta be the first to go !!!🤦♂️
Or they can move him to PF to back up Sochan and sign or trade for a real big to back up Wemby.
@@RighteousRhythm no he’s lucky to even be in the league this long ,spurs effect.
He can't, they signed him a 35M$ contrat for next 2 years !! Such a contract for him cannot be moved !
@@bastousien he is terrible 😂
@@mordakie3805 but he will be paid 17M$ next season, and 18M$ the following one... What the hell went through the front office mind when they signed such an extension ??!
Yeah I was hoping the video would talk about what kind of player would work best in San Antonio. We all know the draft picks we know the cap space. What fits best.
Thanks Bobby!!!
If we get 2 top 8 picks we'll have to give them playing time right? So our team gets even younger and its another season of development. With all these first round picks were forced into a few years of development time
Finally! I think we should stay the course. 2nd half of the season they played like essentially a 35-37 win team. The core (Wemby, Vassell, Sochan) all got better as the season went along. I believe they will push for the play-in next season. Hold on to ATL's picks, move em only if you're getting a Top 10 player. Trae is electric, but he isn't that.
We need a starting guard some SF (sidy mins increase) and a back up center
great having a spurs vid
Very important draft for the spurs coming up
Not really more so 2025
If the Toronto pick conveys this year. And we get A second lottery pick 7-10. And we landed our own lottery pick 1-3 If we get a combination of any of the 2 it will be a W draft day for Spurs. Risacher, Topic, Castle, Buzelis, McCain.... After the Lottery we can trade back up into the 1st round around 20-30 would possibly take Malaki Branham or Keldon Johnson plus our 2 seconds If we do that i would aim For Ryan Dunn (we need a true Lockdown 🔒 defender)
I like Ryan Dunn.😊
@@gabrielcarrasco9078 His shooting is definitely not there yet. But he has the potential of Kawhii honestly I see it in his game. Spurs Development staff would do wonders with Ryan Dunn.
Keldon would get you a late first in this draft and prob a little more. He’s not great but he’s proven
@@cameronbolden5064 definitely proven his game doesn't fit with Wemby 🤣 if you know you know
If the spurs come out with the roster unchanged from the year before, they will get close to 40 wins. Victor is truly unique specimen spending another summer in the lab, now with nba resources behind him and a focused approach for a specific team. I would wager he’s at worst a top 15 player next year. The spurs will experiment less next year with lineups, know their personnel and their chemistries better, a chemistry that was formed over last season. Not to mention, the rotation of this team was very young and now has another year under its belts. 40 Wins
You're funny.
Bobby Marks sounding like Bob Durst! Thanks for the upload!
As long as we get rid of Zach “The Tank” Collins this offseason, it’s a W! 🙌🏻
😂😂yeahhh
Julian Shumpunyay.
Lmao
Stay at the course. For a other 2 years. And then evaluate the assets. Wemby will get better. Hopefully this years top 3 draft pick is also a homerun. And next year's top 3 draft is another homerun. The see what free agent or trade for a borderline star or all-star.
Spurs need tall and athletic PG, Perimeter defender, Shooters and supporting center.
Pushing the panic button now does not help. We all knew Wemby will be great. So why stop the process now just because he ended up being great indeed? Instead continue building patiently. Trade everybody you can get a 1st rounder for and continue drafting talent. And in 2-3 years, if a star becomes available go for it. But by then you have to have a better core in place.
Get Zach Collins and Cedi off the team. Get a couple more draft picks in, then wait and bid your time until a top 10 player asks out of his team so you can pouce on it. Thats the best way to build (OKC for example is in the pouncing stage next year)
Why you have a generational talent who doesn’t want to lose they need to contend now
Nah bro, victor is ready NOW. Get him help this off-season
Probably the smartest long-term move. I don't know if they'll show the necessary patience. OKC is definitely in a prime position to make an addition or two and be ready to roll.
@@brandan2468 Nah bro rushing a trade you ruin the team and Vic leaves. They gotta be patient and get a real star in the top 10 of players, not some not real star that will just slow Vic
@@blablablaa14 true.
Another spurs fan here! When we talk about this coming offseason, I hope Spur to target two special guys. No.1 is Magic's Isaac. This season Wemby is often defending two or more guys at same time, he needs some help. If Isaac joins us, we can play swishing defense on front court sooooo well. Plus, we can avoid Wemby losing stamina quickly. In my imagination, if we get Raptor's pick this year, spur & Magic's trade would be like this: Spur gets: Issac + 2024 magic's 1st round pick Magic gets: Raptor's pick + Malaki + maybe two 2st round picks. If it's a done deal, then imagine we put Wizard's Avdija along with Wemby & Isaac. Yes, he is my No.2 Solid defense + sneaky-good ISO + a little bit playmaking. Sounds like Ben Simmons with shoot + good attitude and only 4yrs/5500M. But it would cost more assets to make it come true. That'd in my mind like this: Spur gets: Avdija Wizard gets: Magic's pick+ Bull's pick + Zack + Graham( to help with salary match) If we go lucky, we may have the starters line like this: Wemby Isaac/ Sochan Avdija/ KJ/Sidy Vassell Tre Plus our own 2024 1st pick to backup. We all know pop's great at developing offense in DEFENSIVE TALENTS. In this case, Sarr, Resacher and maybe Topic are all good additions to us. Even if we finally go for any PG with Hawk's picks, this kind of defensive starters line will make it more acceptable.
Shut up WEMBYWAGON!
Victor gets his first of 12 titles next season...
Lol he’s not gonna make the playoffs in the next 5 years
@@henryslatt9041 Riiiiiight
Definitely not a title next season but he’ll make playoffs the season after this
2025 draft is a gold mine maximise picks for next year
I think they trade for a star after the draft especially if they get another top 3 pick and the Raptors pick
@dmo3841 A star is going to be worth more than that to be honest honest their window opens in 2028 realistically even with Wemby he'll be 24. I say use the '24 draft to find a Giannis or Kahwi cause talent isn't obvious then '25 to get core pieces. 26 27 develop 28 your first serious playoffs and free agency moves because you developed some assets from '24 but they're not good enough. Obviously things change but it's too early for FAs rn.
Tough developing that many picks as well as Wemby himself.
@R-no5qs Look at OKC, and they have done that twice now with KD Russ Harden Ibaka and all their other rotation guys they drafted. Now Giddey Chet Dort Williams Deng tre man Wiggins. The pieces that had value they moved in trades, but besides Shai, they didn't do too much, and Shai is what they got for PG he was a development project, not even a FA. So it works. Spurs did it with their last big three plus Kahwi.
@RadiantandDire SGA-Dort were both in the playoffs early on in their careers, CP3 helped set up a system & both guys learned from vets. Also, Pop is old. How many years does he have left coaching?
NBA rules are so weird, teams like Phoenix have 3 guys making around 50 million on their roster, SA highest paid guy is Vessel at 30 mil but they still only have 24 million in cap space.. How that works??
There’s a soft salary cap that rebuilding teams try to stay below to avoid taxes and other apron rules.
Teams are ready to go over the cap and pay heavy taxes, only if they think they have a shot at winning the championship, just like Phoenix, Golden State or the Clippers did. If you know you have no chance of winning, it's better to save money and stay under the cap.
The Spurs started to find chemistry the last 10 games of the season. They probably would have got there a lot sooner had they not done the Sochan PG experiment the first 28-30 games, then ran Malakai at point another 5-7 games. I could see them winning about 10 or a little more games had they started Tre at PG and Wemby at center from the beginning of the season. I don't think it would have moved the needle much and the experimenting gave them a better understanding of how to use Wemby and who to put around him.
The Spurs have some nice talent at the bottom of the roster who could be nice rotation players. I’m concerns about drafting. The Spurs have a poor recent track record including major first round busts in Samanic and Primo and nothing from the 2nd round except Tre Jones. They passed on Haliburton for Vassell and passed on Sengun for Primo. They’ve gotten a pass because they ended how with Wemby. They can’t make mistakes like that again. That’s one reason I’d like to see them trade some of those picks for established talent.
PATFO started the SPURS MACHINE at the end of the season! The Spurs for the past 3 decades have always had a team where the can plug in a few parts but the core stays the same. When they would get a new player (mostly vets) they always took a year to assimilate to the team and the culture. 23-24 was the first year that they had a core that they could instill the "Spurs Way" since The Big 3 retired. The whole team was finally on the same page in the last 3 weeks of this season. Most of the last 3+ years has been development of Spurs own draft picks. Most of their roster is under 24 yrs old and aquired in the last 2 years, they came in from 1 year of college ball and have had to learn NBA basketball since the Spurs drafted them. Then they drafted Wemby which made the team have to learn how to play around him on top of executing what they learned the season before. I think they will use this next season to compete as a team not just a bunch of young players learning how to play. Now they know how to play together next year is time to execute.
Why is this BARELY coming out? I was going crazy looking for it lol
Spurs need pursue Lauri Markannen & Dejounte Murray this coming off-season 😤😤😤
No way I’m trading any picks for that 2025 draft. That draft is going to be LOADED
NBA media complex wants the team to trade those picks so bad, especially the unprotected Atlanta pick.
@@dillamadukes21people don't care that much mate.
Gucci Bobby
Although it's unlikely, I could see the Spurs bringing in 4 first rounders in the 2025 draft. This upcoming season could be a make or break year for some of the young developmental players(Bassey, Wesley, Branham, Cissoko, Barlow, Mamu, Champagnie) as well as who to keep or trade like(Collins, Keldon, Tre).
go spurs
3:10 got my throat AYOOOO
Grab talent out draft and get a PG!!! Definitely going back playoff very very soon
If they get 2 lottery picks this year I think they just need a veteran point guard maybe even a backup n play it out a year but I think keldon is outta here
If topik falls to the spurs at 4 take him and probably add clingan at the 8th.
Yeah but Bobby here's the thing we're not going to mortgage our future. If there is a deal out there that can be made we will make it but we're not going to blow the team up to do it. Which is what some of the people that are here on this thread are advocating.
Gordon shumway=ALF
spurs will probably trade some firsts, I don’t see the organization getting 5 first rounders, this years draft is good, but not to get 5 rookies on the same year
Trade johnson for brogdon give chicago their 1st back for Caruso and sign kyle anderson to a one year deal, you'll give victor a team he can compete for a playoff spot with this year and you'll have plenty of cap space next year for a much better free agent class.
If they get two top 10 picks especially if they get another top 3 pick, I'd draft Sarr and either Topic/Dillingham/Sheppard or Matas. Trade for Trae young and they'll be a playoff team IMO
get rid of collins branham and champaignie put mamu in the starting lineup
Why wait so late to post this they season been over with 😂
How does Bobby already know that the Spurs have picks 5, 35, and 48?
It's projected based on current odds
@@barbarooza8408 oh I see, perfect, thanks for your answer, much appreciated.
He knows the script
Incoming Trae Young comments…..
lmao it NEVER ends...
Trade for Anthony Edwards. Wemby NEEDS MORE HELP. Trade for Trea Dung and Embid. What else y'all got😂?
Keldon, Zach, Julian can go
Chris Paul on a vet minimum. Paul George and another piece like Caruso
So no talk about a Trae Young trade???
😖🤢🤮
not worth the draft capital Atlanta would ask for in exchange for Young.
No….thank goodness.
terrible person and defender not a spurs type of player
I feel Victor Wembenyama is ready to win now! I say get him some guys and see if he got a LeBron James run in him. I say get Tyus Jones and Tobias Harris to start for now and mentor the young guys. Then in the draft depending on where they land you got options. I hope they get Risacher but let's says they get pick 5. Let's say Risacher is off the board, Sarr, Clingan, and Topic. I say nab up Castle and develop him to be your Dejounte Murray of the future! That is highly possible for the Spurs as they will have time and Castle already knows how to be an unselfish player for a playoff contending team. If im the spurs I don't want to continue to build I want to contend. I want to give Wemby tools and see where he can go with them. He could possibly be a one man show but... if any of these guys can become all star level or better like Vassell or Sochan or for example Castle if drafted to them. Now you are talking about a scary future for this team and a possible dynasty.
Hell no I want no part of Tobias Harris have you seen the way that dude plays for all that money he’s making on the 76ers ? Why do you think they got bounced in the 1st round just look at his stats for the series dude was non existent barely did anyththing to help his team for being a 3rd option
@josemejia9831 but you guys aren't contending. I think he would be a good mentor for Sochan and help him work on his shot and passing from the high and low post. Say what you want about Harris being nonexistent during playoff time but overall he is a good dude that can help mentor some of these young guys. If you guys can even be a playoff team next year it will be on the back of the improvements that can be made from the young guys. So like if Vassell, Sochan, or even Branham can take that next step with a solid PG you guys might be on to something.
You lost me at tobias...
@lecoolpotager6670 I don't get the Harris slander. If LeBron James can drag a team where is 2nd best player is Larry Hughes to the finals why can't Wembenyama with Harris?
@@Crickily I never said anything about us being in the playoffs next season lol idk where you got that info from?? My comment was literally on about how bad dude is for the amount he’s making, the last thing Spurs need is to throw away money we can use on someone better than him There’s literally videos on his game getting broken down on how bad he is don’t believe me? Look up “Tobias Harris is bad”
"I want to win asap!" -Wemby
Alex sarr and Dalton knect trade keldon Johnson and Zach collins Hawks pick (from Murray trade) for Trae young. If spurs think that too much ask for jalen Johnson. Johnson jacked up so many shots early season when victor was in post up position. 2 year 30 mil contract offer to saddiq bey or anyone better in that range.
The Hawks aren’t trading junk for Trae Young. At the very least they’ll expect their picks back.
I listening to that Johnson pick up, if we’re gonna draft a guard I’m down for going in on him
I’d be throwing a heap at OKC to try and get Giddey if I were the spurs.
All that Money And No Hair? Tupee It Bobby. Sheesh
What a waste of commentary... Said nothing.. We didn't already know... The sun will rise in the morning and set at night and the sky will be blue... Great insight!
He didn’t say anything 😂
Let's see if they rig it for the Spurs to be 1-3 in the draft
Yes rig it again. We want another french guy
I guess you don't know how draft percentages work
To be fair they change those percentages every other season.@@jwordxyz
@@jwordxyz Either you're implying the Spurs aren't likely to win (they have like 4% less than the bottom 3 so not material. The bottom 3 dont always win). Or you're implying the NBA does rig things, which they do, just watch the Lakers play. Or you don't know how drafts work
RIG AWAY lol, need my Spurs to be relevant again.. lol
Bobby, you’re great, but there’s a reason you’re at espn and not in a front office. Spurs aren’t going to cash in their assets for the first star available like Dallas. Patience.
Trade for Isreal. 🎉
Can I just say, 3rd world countries have better webcams than this guy. Come on ESPN, let's capture the guy in HD. We don't even demand 4K.
First 😎
Keldon, Zach, Devonte, Malaki, Blake should all go
🗑
Trade for Palestine.
Bring Trey young and Paul George there