Finally, My First Time Working on a Chronograph!
Marshall restores another vintage watch, this time it's his most complicated watch yet; a Chronographe Suisse chronograph from the 1950s! He's been studying up on how to service these complicated watches for a while and it's finally time to dive in. This one was purchased on eBay as "for parts", and it proves to be quite the project!
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Petition to have him repair a perpetual calendar
Marshall, I've enjoyed watching your videos immensely, and would like to offer a challenge. I own a Swiss pocket chronograph with a beautiful Brevete 359 movement. This piece belonged to my grandfather, and I acquired it upon his passing when I was ten years old, I am now eighty five. The watch was in working order for many years, but not anymore, and is complete, less crystal. Would you be interested in taking a look and perhaps using this piece as the subject of a video? Thank you.
@@paulpannell6694Hey Paul, it seems like your request is a reply under another comment, and in this form it’s unlikely to reach Marshall. If you make a regular comment, he might see it!
Horology is so fascinating to me. It's incredible how for hundreds of years they were able to make such complicated things sitting by candle light. I feel like the people of the past were just as technologocially advanced as us, just not as electronically advanced. Beautiful watch and beautiful content. God bless you all.
even considering they did all this without computer software is even more impressive
@@Staniel_ Whoever figured out how to make watch movements is a genius.
Whether framed as technology or electronics, humans are no more intelligent on average than our species was 100,000 years ago. We just know and understand more, but the central processor is still the same. Technologically, we existed in a relatively slow pace of change for millennia. Access to the necessary materials and refinement just didn't exist. Notice when the ability to generate abundant power caught up with our understanding of material sciences, our development just took off. Then came electronics and computers. We've developed at a staggering pace over the past 100 years and really, most of it, the past 30 or so. Where will we plateau? Who knows. If we manage to survive our technological infancy, then I believe we will achieve some remarkable things as a species in the future.
We're already making breakthroughs with fusion. Harnessing the power of internal workings of stars. There isn't a limit to what we can do. If only we'd stop trying to divide and kill each other over stupid petty crap.
They were just as smart, not nearly as technologically advanced though they did do things we couldn't do now except for a few rare skilled people. But then again we have skills now that they would think are literally magic so I think we win.
Hey Marshall, happy to see that you’re attempting chronographs! I have a lot of experience on these 48 based movements, and am trained and certified for them, so I hope you can take these points to improve your next Landeron chronograph. 11:48: this was not a little bit of wind, this was quite a bit of power, and combined with the lack of lubrication, this could have seriously damaged the pivots, and in worst case ruined the pallet stones. This was just very dangerous. Try to pay more attention and always let down the spring. 14:38: this main spring should absolutely be replaced. It doesn’t lay flat (so will rub against the barrel roof and floor) and is very tired. A modern spring is also more consistent in force. So get a modern one, but whilst measuring the old spring, take a modern one that is a bit THINNER!!! Very important as modern springs are substantially stronger. 18:14: did you grease the main spring? Didn’t see you doing that but maybe you did it off camera. In any case, it’s very important. 18:59: that is a ton of grease on that screw. That will just walk itself between the bridges over the years, there is just no need for that much grease. Later you also put too much oil under the crown wheel. Again, it’s messy, so try to use just as little as needed. I also didn’t see you lubricate the click, which again, is very important. Could have happened off camera but still, it should be mentioned. 21:00: did you check the play of the center wheel and the bridge? These are almost always worn out, and should be fixed as the difference between horizontal and vertical amplitude would be too great without. 23:25: you should grease (again, very little) this eccentric where the lever bridge pivots around. Every single metal chronograph part that pushes against another one NEEDS grease. It will wear out very quickly. So the hammer need a tiny bit of 9010 on the ends (don’t oil the heart cams with HP1300, this gives too much drag. Just oil the hammer ends), and all the levers need a *little* bit of grease on the touching surfaces. Also a little tip, hammer goes in last, makes for much easier assembly. 27:05: you did grease the hammer spring, but that was again way more than needed, and smothered all over the bridge, please use less and take more care when applying. 29:55: yes that’s a mistake, but a very small one. No worries, everyone has done that. 31:00: again with the grease, please use less, you are using way too much. Keep it tidy and just use a little. This is the last time I will mention the grease as I think you get the point. It is just every time you use grease. 31:15: you missed the post and oiled the bridge. That’s not where it is needed. 35:51: your jewels are not clean, and you don’t want to oil the minute counter. That just adds unnecessary drag, and it doesn’t move often. 36:01: that was just messy oiling. Keep the oils in the cups. 38:50: it is easier to oil the top capjewel if you assemble the balance bridge and then oil it with the pass-through method. 41:46: you didn’t oil the clutch bridge wheel and post. Give the wheel pivots on both sides some 9010, and the post a little grease so the clutch bridge pivots nicely. 42:20: the top second wheel (the one you press on the second wheel) is pressed too deep, it needs to align perfectly with the clutch wheel. The teeth also should mesh for 2/3-3/4ths of the way, not all the way. 42:42: very important that they DO NOT mesh all the way, but should be 1/4-1/3rd at most meshed (looking at the chronograph seconds teeth). 42:48: don’t oil that spring of the minute counter. Again, that’s not a wear point and adds too much drag. 43:40: great work on those adjustments! These are tricky, and you did great. I hope you checked the pull-back adjustment of the lever bridge in reset mode, and also the adjustment of the minute counter spring in reset mode. Then finally I wanted to add that you need to take more care in where you place the hands. Because they should be dead right on 0 when the chronograph is reset. Not somewhere around it. I hope to see you tackle more chronographs in the future, it will be interesting to see you learn.
Solid advice!
I came to the comments to mention the need to replace the mainspring, and not to oil the minute jumper… hats off to you sir, for taking the time to point out the improvement areas, not just for Marshall, but the rest of us as well! And to Marshall, great work as usual! First chrono usually feels like getting back to the start line… redoing this with the tips above in mind will do A LOT to your chrono skills. Keep it up!
Thank you for your valuable insights, it's fascinating the delicacy required! Hope to hear more feedback from you in the future!
Great feedback! Now I dont feel so bad for sending my speedy racing for repairs! This art is wild
Currently training in the SAWTA program, Im glad to have finally found someone else in these comments who knows what theyre talking about. Many of these things are oversights which need to be understood conceptually rather than on a case by case basis, like not keeping oil in the jewel cups. most people just think its a cleanliness issue, which it is, but its also because the capilary attraction could lead the oil between the bridge and jewel or spread to other places it shouldnt be. Same thing with mainsprings. People dont understand the implications of spring flatness or the barrel endshake or the arbor endshake on the amplitude. this is all stuff that NEEDS to be checked which is why I get worried when i see how popular these videos are becoming since I know people are following them for tutorials.
Maybe now people will understand why servicing a chronograph is so damn expensive.
Its just more screws and springs.. I dont feel like its that different
@@DutchClawz the order of assembly/disassembly varies greatly from chronography to chronograph, some are far more difficult to service than others.
@@DutchClawz You sound like the type of guy that takes his car to the mechanic, refuses service due to cost, goes home and makes it worse, and then comes back much to the chagrin of the mechanic as they now have clean up after your mess because you thought it was "just more screws and springs."
@@squidikka Well, i have a fair bit experience with watchmaking and chronographs. Its the same principle as a normal watch, just more parts..
Such a good channel
I feel like Marshall is the kind of person that would be completely content sitting in rush hour traffic listening to his favorite song.
It’s impressive you can take it a part and fix it but the people who invented it are unreal.
Just wanted to say thanks. I went ahead and did Patreon. I don't know much about watch making, but I quit alcohol in 2014, then switched from smoking to vaping where I turned into a full hobbyist making all kinds of very intricate coils. I already enjoyed working on little intricate things where I spend 15 hours working on a 10 inch length of wire. Finding your channel working on these watches has been an absolute joy. I never considered working on watches until I found your channel. I've seen a few other channels, but I keep coming back to your videos. The work you do is incredible, and no one can match your presentation. I don't know if I'll ever be good enough to do the kind of work you do, but you have given me a new fascination, and something that I so enjoy watching. I'm a custom residential cabinet maker and I enjoy working with wood too, obviously, I guess because I own a cabinet company, but I just find this so intriguing, and already being in the vape wire art world the intricate work on tiny things falls right into the kind of things that I love. The things that keep me sober, and the things I love doing. Thank you for making these videos. I hope I'm able to offer some contribution to your work, and I'm so glad that I found this. Maybe one day I'll hit up ebay and buy some cheap mechanical watch and try my hand at working on one. Thanks again. I really enjoy watching your work!
Good shit brother
Garage sales and estate sales are two of the places I buy watches.
Stapled fraliens and the such?
@microwaveoven5944 Absolutely. The more complicated, the better. Gotta be careful though. Some of them ohm out too low to really use long term. Some coils are mostly about the art and colors that come out of the different metals at break in. Can get some really cool pics though.
Well done brother.
I have my first chronograph by Heuer that’s been sitting at the back of my bench waiting for me to scrape up the courage to service it. So this video has been an inspiration that will help me get over the stress about getting started. Many thanks for building my confidence!
First Jewel replacement and then your first chronograph. Making some great strides in building experience as 2023 comes to an end.
Congratulations on getting your first chronograph up and working! You're right, seeing the inside of a regular watch and seeing you take it apart is quite intimidating. Seeing the inside of the chronograph and the additional complexity almost made me cry.
Not going to lie but these videos actually help my PTSD anxiety and panic disorder. 🙏 thanks so much.
Marshall...I just wanted to thank you for being yourself and making these awesome videos. I've been watching for years and really enjoy the simplicity and complexity of your skills. All the friends that I recommend your adventures to have subscribed and enjoy your output, as well. I wish I had more money to be able to afford a sticker and a thank you card.
I just started following your channel a few weeks ago and about 2 days ago I noticed all your watch repair videos were for regular watches and not chronograph watches. I even searched your channel for "chronograph" to no avail. And at that point, I thought to myself "well it's probably because they're so much more complicated". And yet here you are, not a day later posting up your first chronograph watch repair. I can't wait to watch this and I really appreciate your candidness and humbleness about your current skill level. I love the fact that you're only trying one now after taking the classes and reaching a level of confidence, but also stepping outside your comfort zone a bit. Now. Onto the video!
You make a lot of car references in your videos are you pretty interested in car restoration and or racing? Love these videos!
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the more I watch, not only do watches simply amaze me, but what amazes me more is how long watches have been around and how similar the modern ones are to the older ones. amazing how well they have been engineered for so long. I would also love to see how those extremely small screws are made. insane to me
Ive spent 50mins watching this❤well its better than just watching random videos😊
The close up shots of the chronograph mechanism are amazing. Love the dial on this watch. Thanks for sharing
I really appreciate Marshall's forthrightness about his nervousness in dealing with the chronograph portion. He has such a comforting manner in dealing with the unknown element of challenges!
The Swiss watchmakers are just astounding!!! Reminds me of a story back during the Apollo space race days where NASA had drilled the smallest hole in the world and sent out samples of the drill bit to anyone they thought would be interested in it. They had sent one to a watch company in Switzerland and in a few days it came back...no note accompanied the bit and everyone was confused until someone looked at this microscopic drill bit under a microscope. They had drilled a hole in it and sent it back!!! That was such a monster move! :)
Such a blast to watch your skills in watch restoration, especially this monster.
Hey marshal! I love the videos and the progression of intricate work you do! You gave the the confidence to modify an old clock to hold some hands on a modern timer! Keep up the awesome work sir!
Forgive me writing, but I find your channel super relaxing to watch and listen to, and prefer it to the watch repair channel.. maybe because it feels more like you're telling a story and enjoying it more - and it comes through. Thanks for your videos
Done like a Pro, Marshal. I work on a lot of Seiko and Citizen chronographs and there is nothing easy about servicing chronographs. i must say you have some very nice tools in your inventory. Thanks for sharing your work. John S
Another great posting Marshall, thanks for the breakdown of this chronograph.. the best of holiday cheer to you and all your subscribers.
Marshall, it has been fascinating witnessing your watchmaking development over the past several years. This piece was especially appropriate in demonstrating how far your skills have advanced. Thanks for all your enlightening, entertaining and engrossing work. Best wishes to you and yours for the holidays and the new year.
Marshall, love your videos. You filming and editing is on point, the way you talk through what you are doing and why is highly instructional, and you have made something that seems incredibly complicated seem approachable. Thanks to you, I just won two pocket watch auctions on eBay today, and want to start dabbling in a new hobby (don't tell my wife, she already thinks I have too many hobbies!) Your narration style is great too, very conversational. I feel like I'm in the room watching over your shoulder, talking with you, learning from you. Extremely high quality content, well done. Also, I find myself catching a glimpse of your various watches on your wrist, and would love if you included a bit telling us about what you are wearing while you work.
You know, I was actually at the local Seiko jeweller today looking at some mechanical wristwatches and I saw some with this complication. Was a little confused at first until I worked it out. Thanks again Marshall for spreading the good word of mechanical watch movements. Your dedication to the craft is inspirational.
Love to listen to you explain every step and why you're doing it.
It has been such a pleasure to see you progress in your skills and experience. Thanks for letting us share this journey with you.
One of the most beautiful dials I've ever seen..!
I love this guy. I watch his videos because it relaxes my mind. Been having mental health issues and getting better but watching these videos help. So thank you for helping me over my problems.
Thank You for sharing Your time and efforts Marshall. Best Wishes to You and Your Family for the Holiday Season.
Oh man! I always look forward to your uploads Marshal! It’s pretty late. I sure hope I can stay awake for the entire video! You are the best and the only watch servicing channel I watch. I’m excited to see how you do with this chronograph!
Just received my Sutcliff Hansen full tool kit!! Thank you!!!
Congratulations, Marshall! That is a great video! Thank you for taking us with you in this great adventure! Hoping to see more!
And if people think a chronograph is complicated, wait till marshal starts working on a perpetual calendar
Pffft, wait until you see my SpongeBob watch
All the extra parts for the chronograph is really fascinating. Another awesome project.
That is a beautiful watch. Love the channel by the way. It’s so great seeing people do these hobbies because they love what they do. Just goes to show how much more time effort and detail goes into these Watch services when you really care about what you do.
Hello Marshal, excellent video , I must say I like seeing it back in it's case with a new crystal . As for some reason the crystal brings out Beauty of the face so to speak , thank you for having us along in your watch repair journey!!!
Thanks for another year of great restorations.
oddly cool chronograph, well done. the journey continues. thanks for sharing.
Marshall another amazing job and I love your narration with your jokes and your own amazing about thing makes it real. Thanks again. You put my adhd brain to rest
Believe in what you do and be patient . Marshall, Thanx4sharing..enjoyed viewing 👍 👍
WOOO HOOO I was wondering when a new video was coming out. I was actually watching an older video then this popped up, cheering 😁 Hope you have a merry Christmas Marshall and thanks for the great content.
Congratulations, Marshall! 🍻 I admit I _am_ intimidated by chronographs, but I'm going to take Mark's course as you did, and I'm sure some focused study will banish the fear. It all takes time, but as hobbyists we can enjoy the journey. Again, well done sir!
Wow! I was fascinated by the whole process but when you showed the final result I just reacted with "Good grief! That is so beautiful"
i have to say you are the coolest and chillest guy on this entire platform
Thanks for all your hard work in recording your adventures . It's amazing to see the amount of care and determination you put into thos hobby. Love to see these new videos popping up. Keep up the good work!
Great video as always! The eccentrics are exactly like the eccentric bolts on cars to adjust the wheel alignment!
What better way to start a wet Friday morning than watching the Bob Ross of watches messing about with a chronograph? So relaxing and satisfying. That has to be one of the best looking dials I've ever seen. Imagine a Speedmaster with a dial like that.
So, I don't care about watches, until you I never watched a single KZhead video about them, and I know nothing about the different movements, companies, or anything like that. I have no idea why your channel was recommended to me, but it is absolutely addictive. I have watched so many of your videos. I think it's a combination of your voice, manner of speaking, and enthusiasm that really keeps me coming back for more. Seriously, excellent work
Oh boy. This is going to be an adventure. 🎉
Nice work Marshall and congrats on servicing your first chronograph! Quite a milestone! What a striking timepiece and masterfully restored.
Marshall, I never cease to be amazed by your craftsmanship! Another stellar video. :)
Thank you, Marshall, for all that you do.
I just watched a video so sick It made my jaw drop and my brain tick The visuals were fire, the beats were tight I couldn't help but move my feet and ignite The story was gripping, the message was clear It left me inspired, without a fear I'm telling you, this video was no joke It was the best thing I've seen, no smoke
First!
What do you win?
@@S3ARCH_N_D3STROY a very small amount of satisfaction
What a pleasure it was to go on this journey for the first time with you.
Beautifully done - congratulations, Marshall!
I would just drill those lugs. Never even heard of inverted lugs, and see zero point of going forward with them. As a bonus, you can sell the gold shards for 1 dollar.
Agreed. Seems like a silly system. Plus if one wants real “fix-in-place” type of security, screws and bars are the way.
Superb restoration as always! Thanks for sharing all your videos! 😊🇨🇦
Would love to see you do a video where you service a vintage and modern movement side of side and talk about what about modern movements makes them better and what hasn’t really changed. I know it’s a bit out of your typical content but your format would suit it great and you present the information well!
What a cool project! As always, great video, thanks Marshall 😊
Congrats on completing your first chronograph! And what an amazing watch to do it on. The dial is awesome, it has a very vintage vibe to it (and of course it is very vintage so that fits). Love the videos and the narration. Keep up the great work!
You’re the reason why I learned to service my automatics. You’re also the reason I’ll never work on a chronograph. That looked easy while you did it, but my wife and I had to pick our jaws up off the floor several times watching it go back together.
Fantastic video!!!! Great seeing you out of your comfort zone and into the world of chronographs. Love all your vids, please keep up the amazing work you do on this channel.
i've been waiting for this day to come! i've seen enough of your videos that i understand pretty thoroughly how an uncomplicated swiss watch movement works, so i've been hoping for an increase in complexity for a while now. thanks!!
This is one of the nicest looking pieces I've ever seen you restore. ❤️
As always, a pleasure to watch you work.
Mark is amazing. He makes things so small seem so easy to work on.
Great job Marshall! What a wonderful old watch. I'm glad to see another one recovered from the ravages of time!
The more of these videos I watch the more I want a mechanical watch (preferably one where the movement is visible), but at the same time I'm reminded how much work goes into servicing them, and since I've already made the rock solid decision to stay away from watchmaking I'd have to pay someone to do the service for me, and judging by what I've seen in ur videos that would be pretty expensive. And the watch itself would probably already cost me a fortune to begin with.
Thank you for the video. Vintage Watch Services released his video on this exact same model about 12 days ago. His video has some in-depth history on the watch. Keep up the good work.
Absolutely love this! It's great to expand your knowledge & skills (and ours vicariously!) and chronographs are something I've been fascinated by myself. Gorgeous dial, and it's fitting that the font & layout reminds me of the old stopwatch I have from my dad who used it for pace notes when he was rally driving... I still pull it out of the drawer to use in preference to a digital one because there's something special about the weight & ticking sound from a mechanical stopwatch. Brilliant job! 👍
I have just found your videos this December and have been hooked but was anxiously awaiting a chronograph, because like you that is my favorite watch complication. Keep up these videos they are amazing and have given me a push to begin watchmaking myself, first as a hobby, and who knows after.
Looks fantastic. A great job on the restoration of this piece, from start to finish. Love the old movement. Excellent job Marshall...Kudos to you.
So excited to see a chronograph on the channel, looking forward to more!
Awesome to see you on a chronograph, probably my favorite type of watch. Love the work you do.
lol. That “what have I gotten into” response after opening the back was so genuine. Happy Holidays to you and all your viewers!
really excited to see more chronographs on the channel. I'm a racing fan myself and I love me some classic time keeping.
I’ve been looking forward to this, I own a couple of chronographs and I’m fascinated by how they work so thank you and well done
You never cease to amaze me Marshall. Thankyou very much for sharing your journey
It amazes me that your videos are all almost an hour long yet when I sit down to watch it, they all feel like they're just a sub 10 minute video. Watching you work is just fascinating and enjoyable in it's own way. I kinda want to get into this hobby but man, I don't think I have the patience to actually work on stuff smaller than my thumb.
And you still made it look as easy as any watch you've ever done. Always enjoyable to watch.
I find it funny that I have absolutely zero interest in watches, yet I've been binge watching your videos over the last few days. 😆
Neat! Some time ago I watched a video on rehabilitating a stopwatch, so it's interesting to see that movement conjoined with the regular watch movement. I also think it's great that you're offering watch repair tools and such for other folks wanting to pursue this kind of work.
I really lived the closeup shots of the wheels, seeing how the teeth engaged. Great video, lovely watch!
I believe I have only commented here one other time but feel compelled to do so again. The aesthetics of this swiss chronograph are drop dead gorgeous! During the video I kept thinking where have I seen these ravishing colors before and why are they affecting me so strongly?! I am an artist and am not easily so moved, even by particularly sightly or stunning things but I have finally remembered and figured out why I am so reactive! That spectral combination of warm coppery golden hues is what you see when - for example - you drizzle honey on top if a creme brulle due to the gradient caramelization of sugars which is the most resplendent example of the already handsome Maillard effect that I can think of! Lastly, I ended up using so many synonyms for the word "beautiful" in this comment that I had to look up some more after editing and will put the left overs here in no particular order: picturesque, exquisite, comely, lovely, pretty, scenic, bonnie & pulchritudinous(!?)
Marshall Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Thanks for your videos. This one is one of the best you have done. That dial is just gorgeous. Cheers
Its great to see the past two videos you moving out of your comfort zone and developing your skills. From replacing the jewels in the last video to working on a chronograph in this one. Not to mention your explanations on the workings and new techniques you've shown us. Yet another excellent, excellent video. Marshall, thank you. BTW love the dial. It took me a while to come around to a dark color face with black lettering and hands but when you put the strap on it it worked. Very much so.
42:20 How oh how could something so intricate be designed and manufactured? To use an overused word, this is truly awesome. Marshall, once again you did some great work. Thank you.
I love that even someone with your knowledge and skill can still be daunted, stretch themselves, and take on new challenges in the watch world.
Congratulations on your first successful chronograph service! Well done Marshall!
"What have I done" haha Marshall, if you aren't asking yourself that on the regular, then you aren't pushing the boundaries of your experience. Personally, the videos where you learn... and then explain what you learned to us... are my favorite.
I see your videos as classes, and you have inspired me to get into it, starting to get tools and equipment together now.
Congratulations Marshall. Nice to see all your videos and successes on your hobby that you enjoy. Thanks again.
I have never seen one of these on the inside. Really amazing engineering in such a tight space, thank for making this video, I really enjoyed it 👍
Hey Marshall, thank you for sharing and being part of this amazing experience...!
So excited for this video! I've been dying to see Marshall take a part a a chronograph. Maybe one day there will be a speedy on the bench 👀
Yeah I’m very proud of you Marshall thanks for all your amazing streams this year.merry Xmas from New Zealand 🇳🇿