16x9 | Under Fire: Were Moncton RCMP officers ready for the call?
2015 ж. 5 Сәу.
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It was one of the most horrific killing sprees in Canadian history - a lone gunman on the hunt for cops in Moncton, last June. But were the officers as prepared as they could be? Did they have the equipment and training they needed? This explosive 16x9 investigation has officers asking why they weren’t ready to answer the call that day.
As a former law enforcement officer whoever blamed this on heavy medal and marijuania is freaking stupid and does not need to be in any authority role. Damn politicians don't care about officers or the public.
I agree
Politicians are the ones to blame! We will see more of this in the future
just like officers {not all} dont care ab the public.
Seems logical weed drove him to commit these
You right mate Some police are stepped how they got in the police i do not know mate
Almost took this seriously until this was blamed on heavy metal lyrics and a "weed withdrawl"
Perfect Salad lmfao right
@Jeff L Canookistan!🤣🤣🤣
@Jeff L Canada now has a minority Liberal government. It will change fairly quickly, as Conservatives are rapidly growing in the western world.
Don't forget in there mind there thinking VIDEO GAMES DID THIS
I always thought is was watching Bugs Bunny, the Road Runner,Yosemite Sam , etc, also going to pool halls and dancing was the cause of all this. They lied to me!!!
That bringing a knife to a gun fight comparison was bang on.
If only the locals could have been allowed to have a firearm to assist!
I'm honestly worried that if locals had been allowed to be armed(like in the US) he would have looked at civilians as targets because he would have been outgunned. The reason he didn't target civilians and told that lady that he wasn't looking to kill them was because he knew full well that they weren't any threat to him.
@@rootbeer2399 That’s BS… If civilians had access to firearms no crazy would even think to go off on a shooting spree! It’s because we are not allowed to define ourselves is why stuff like this happens!! Give us the right and ability to defend outset!! Oh Canada we need to allow our citizens to protect themselves!! This could have been dealt with so much more differently!!!
"heavy metal, marijuana, and firearms." really... almost took this seriously.
they forgot beer
I guess I’m a killer to because I have all three 🤷♂️
You forgot games
gimme throwback mtn dew instead of dope and also bbq potato chips and some trailer park boys on netflix and im good
It's the public schools.
So when the police need one they're "carbines", but when a citizen has one it's an "assault rifle".
The term assault rifle was created in the mid-90s by the Liberals to create fear-mongerin it's not an actual thing
@@scttiedsntknow Actually you should do more research, the term was created by Adolf Hitler when he created the first one. Although in this case the shooter did not use one, the assault rifle was made for military infantry, not civilians. Seriously you should do more research instead of listening to your own biased beliefs.
Yup. It's much easier to make the civilian version more demon like, which means it can be banned. To bad there is 380 million gun owners and maybe a few hundred of them. Apparently none of them paid any attention in history class.
@@hamburger8657 I don't think that's right. Hitler named the sturmgewehr translated to "assault rifle" but he had nothing to do with the design and in fact he most likely delayed its mass production do to logistical reasons. He certainly didn't create it. I guess you can say he allowed it to be built.
@@johnb.8687 I never said he created the design, I was saying that the term Assault rifle was a real thing, and where it comes from. Captain Dammit was saying that the term was created by liberals in the 1990s to vilify the weapon.
The pathetic inaction of the top command cost officers their lives - more than once. I served with the OPP as an auxiliary and had far more excellent firearms training than the RCMP officers did. I am SHOCKED that could happen - and thankful for all my training officers and command staff who believed it was necessary.
Thank u for your service
"Some officers, who now realized they are the target, tore off their uniforms in self-defense." Why am I not surprised.
Lmao..definitely not America
Yeah for real like what the hell was that about?
it's a bit easier to take down someone if they aren't targeting you
SS gaurds did the same as the concentration camps were being liberated. Cowards through the ages
@@calicored3076😂stop it they scary to it happens often 😂😂😂
“A hand pistol” gee thanks for clarifying the hand part. I thought they were armed with foot pistols
Lol
Hahahaha
😂😂😂
I can’t 😂😂😂😂
Canada's finest
Withdrawals from marijuana? Is this the 60's ? He was crazy plain and simple, no excuses
Stay away from my smokes fed
Decided to do something crazy* not crazy .
Everyone in Canada has a rifle, because handguns are illegal, except the cops, they carry handguns...figure that one out.
Our government creates these people. The rcmp brass is in on it.
@@skim4me I'll take what's considered a riffle over a handgun any day, the legislative clowns don't know what they are even talking about when it comes to firearms The biggest difference is it's kind of hard to conceal a Mossberg 500 lol
Unfortunately, it was obvious the RCMP officers weren't trained for this type of confrontation. Removing your uniform to hide in this type of incident is totally unacceptable.
What a ridiculous comment, It’s completely acceptable if it makes the difference between being killed because of your job/ uniform and going home safely once your job is done! Haters gotta hate eh!
Essentially itd be undercover cops. You know what those are right? I don't recall hearing them say that they stopped doing their job but just taken off the uniforms
@@hotpotato4027 well if a officer male with red hair had hid his uniform but was armed in civilian clothing what could of gone wrong then……..
My time in law enforcement I worked 1st as a city officer where we were only allowed a side arm and a shotgun even though the city had a high crime rate I went to Maricopa County where we worked alone with back up close to an hour away. We were allowed to carry a variety of firearms. Most of us carried a 9mm, 147 grain Hydra-shock ( 50 rounds on you ) .40 or .45 cal sidearm, AR-15, 5.56, and high capacity 12 ga shotguns with a mix of.00 buck and lead slugs, because when a gunfight starts you are on your own for a long time.
how come they call it a carbine when the police use it and an assault rifle when i own one?
Me and you would get along great!
Assault rifles technically aren't things, also RCMP didn't have "Long rifles" or "Carbine rifles" until after this incident.
Yeah it’s like nutrients ....... place them next to tomatoe plants and they are nutrients, move them over besides the marijuana plants and they are called chemicals.
@@Josh-wh6iv the had assault rifles before this incident, they had them since the Hollywood bank robbery shootout back in da 90's
@@oliverqueen8806 This is in Canada not the US...
“Was sleep deprived and without money for marijuana, was possibly going through withdrawal” LMFAO WHAT
Yeah when she said marijuana withdrawal I literally said “what??” Out loud lol
EXACTLY my thought!!
They really said him being marijuana dependent was a reason for this happening
@White girl Magic is just too Strong. SYSBM! ikr!☕ I have to have my coffee or coca cola!!! Caffeine withdrawals give me a migraine! But there is NO such thing as pot withdrawals!!🤣🤣
@@clairestilwill5284 lol!!🤣
I’m 100% sure that “homeschooling” had ZERO to do with his issues.
RIp, condolences to the family and friends.
wtf, video games, heavy metal and marijuana.. what does that have to do with anything ?
Because in today's society we have to find something to blame for our nonsense.
my friend injected 12 marijuanas and died bro!
+jack mayhoff it's easier to blame the society problems on that. lol
+jack mayhoff Nothing! Except to his lawyer who is grasping at straws to try and get him off from murder charges. The real problem is that in this liberal society no one is ever held accountable for their behavior. There is always some excuse given, too much sugar, too much TV, violent games, the devil marijuana. Actually this crap they said about pot is ridiculous. You can be mentally dependent on pot but the withdrawal would only be minor agitation and it sure as hell wouldn't cause anyone to go on a murder spree.
+Joe Bandella yeah, injected them where, up his ass?
AR-15: Cop: Carbine Civillian: Assault Weapon We clear?
This happened in my city, Moncton, New Brunswick. I was in a restaurant with family & friends. We came out at the same time the first officer was shot. We didn't know that at the time. A total of 5 officers were shot, 3 fatally, 2 injured. The section of the city that was shut down was very close to my Mom's house. I can't remember how many days the lockdown was in place. It was very scary. Helicopters going back & forth with searchlights, police everywhere. No admittance to the section of the city where the shootings occurred. Very nerve-wracking! I couldn't get to my Mom's place. My brother was visiting her at that time. They were nervous wrecks. The shooter was just after cops. Didn't bother with anyone else. Off his meds at the time. Found & arrested. Imprisoned for life. Came from a very nice family too.
Awesome got your 5 seconds of fame thanks for making it about you 🖕
@@hilaryinthewoodsliberal funded attacks
I live in Missouri, where anyone, even a child, can legally carry a concealed firearm without any permits. This is where a few KC Chiefs fans showed they had more and bigger balls than the entire Uvalde, TX police department. Where we live, we have no police. Everyone is responsible for their own security. Local sheriffs encourage their citizens to train with and carry firearms here. We don't have mass shootings here. Criminals keep the violence mostly among their own. The citizens of Missouri are probably the best trained and armed citizens anywhere today.
So life imprisonment in Canada means life, unlike in the US?
I love how the media calls civilian sporting rifles "assault rifles" and call LE rifles "semi auto carbines"
great comment skin so true
SkintSNIPER262 it’s Canada we don’t use those for sport
Canad1an Map1e Then you have never been to a firing range my friend 😉
That's why liberal ways to think are naive and sadly detrimental. The other side can make the difference but instead they waste time listening to themselves.
@@R-C_42 To me it's just funny that they call the same exact firearm two different names depending on who is holding it.
I just wanted to add an additional comment after the recent gun ban last Friday. In the hands of the police like you see in the video, a .223 semi-auto is just a "police carbine," but it becomes an "assault-style weapon" in the hands of the Canadian people. This is an injustice.
Complete infringement
I don’t know much about Canada. But I’ve been watching Viva Frei for about a year....good luck northern friend.
That's what happens when you elect socialists to power.
Yeah this is why we don't need long guns retards.. just like what happened recently..
@@goon825 that sort of language is not constructive
This is why Canada - alone - was considered to be the only English-speaking country during WW 2 to have been deemed to have lost the war due to poor combat engagement. This is why Canada is not historically recognized as ever having sent troops to Europe, so humiliating was their battlefield performance. In the end, a retired small town deputy from the US side of the border put an end to the slaughter. He was awarded Canada's highest medal for bravery. But he turned it down and went home. Even so, Justin Trudeau is working to outlaw these new weapons, calling them racist.
C8 and M4 carbine may see their new engagement at present(you can just hope for it [if any at-all]soon in near future)...
When police have them: carbines When civilians have them: high powered assault rifles.
I turned this shit off as soon as I heard the withdrawal part.
I still pay taxes for this useless pack of twats.
Yeah. I usually go buy some more weed. No bullets involved. We usually discuss the many animals these people care for.
How much you wanna bet it wasn't withdrawal from the mary j but rather an SSRI or psychiatric med...the media always ignores that shit
Goldman Sachs being from canada will do that to a person
In canada people use horns to get ahold of their dealers??
It amazes me how little the media knows about guns. The concept of a rifle is not as difficult as they make it out to be.
Not all live by the gun, but these days at least guns and weapons are selling as fast as they’re stocked.
The media is a total joke today. Even this one couldn't help saying "it looks big and scary." SMH.
They think possessing a gun is a psychological behaviour that can be modified by brute force legislation. In other words, they think of the umbrella term 'handguns', used in crime as responsible for society's gun problems.
The cops seem to be pretty amateur as well. Look at the collection of shots at 31:49. Their plate carriers are so low that the back plates arent even covering the upper sections of their hearts and their respiratory systems.
They call that willful ignorance and I think the saying was invented for politicians because they love not knowing stuff
Sadly, that woman officer who paniced when she got shoot shouldnt be a officer, she paniced in a situation they cant panic in. This is what they are for, run towards the danger to help. Im not looking down on her, but a officer who panics the way she did aint a good -stable officer. that situation happend cus they didnt teamwork, noone lead, it was confusion and that can turn deadly.
So your telling me if you get shot in the head your just going to stay calm and not panic even a little bit and give directions to the guy that just shot you? Show some respect.
No panic can kill you quicker, and she didn’t need to go fight but needed to give out info on his whereabouts and her own. Their paid handsomely and have half the week off, training should take over in these situations. It just shows lack of.. which again is no excuse when given the tools and schedule they have. I say this bc I don’t want another poor girl or men in a situation they can’t handle and being injured without the proper training to save their own lives if needed.
"I know guys that carried a military rifle in their trunk..." local base commander is gonna be pissed off.
weird how an AR-15 is now a "carbine" and an M1A is an "assault rifle"... Edit: the point I'm trying to make is that the media paints the AR-15 as an assault weapon yet the M1A is not because it's "featureless". However in this video they called the M1A an assault rifle because the bad guy was using it and the AR-15 a patrol carbine. I don't need all these technicality definitions of rifles and carbines, I'm well aware of the differences
A carbine is a shortened rifle, usually about a 16 inch barrel. A rifle is not always a carbine however. A rifle gets it's name due to the “rifling” inside the barrel, which causes the bullet to spinin order to stabilize it's flight path.Rifles can come in many different lengths, but most will be 20 - 28 inches. Rifle-like weapons with a barrel lengthof less than 20 inches are typically considered to be carbines. Weaponswith barrels greater than 20 inches are usually called rifles unless specifically called carbines by the manufacturer. By this definition, many so-called “Assault Rifles” would technically be carbines. Ya get what I'm trying say.!.
@@matthewvannacci3772 believe me, i know this. But people tend to call ar-15 platform rifles "assault weapons/rifles." However in their eyes an M1A is not an assault weapon because it doesnt have a pistol grip, retractable butt stock and easily detachable 30 round magazines. The gun simply desnt look as "scary" but in this documentary the ar-15 plarform rifle is a carbine and the bad guy using the m1a is using an assault rifle. I think the point i was trying to make went way over your head
Neither weapon is a Assault rifle
@@nathanbowman2151 it looks like the point i was trying to make has also eluded you...
Is that what he used.. the m1a1 semi auto. Damn that's my fav of pubg
"Without money for marijuana, he was possibly going through withdrawals". Looool. Great journalism guys
Sounds like someone has never smoked
Ya that is just bullshit. They act like it's opiates or something.
@@hyssean12 weed is pretty controlling i know it may sound funny but you can depend on that shit to survive without it may cost you to do some dumb shit.
@@TheDarknessOfGames I just quit 2 months ago after 15 years daily smoking. Never once was I about to do something stupid. Sorry you are wrong .
@@hyssean12 nice congrats sounds like a guy who never ran out of money
Shit if a 20 gauge shotgun, a box of empty shells, and a rifle manual are the makings of a psycho….. I’m screwed.
cops are about to start getting a whole lot more of this acting up and the way they do..
"Who should have access to this weapon?" Everyone.
Hunter Albers Americans!
I got a toy one--lol!!!
Jeff Canadian History
Everyone who passes their RPAL should have access to it.
@@vladimirharkonnen458 21:05 That looks like a regular pump shotgun (m870?) and the M305B, and none of them requires an RPAL. A small detail to clarify, but yes.
Just imagine if one of those homes had a civilian with an AR.
If this happened in my hometown someone would have shot him
It looks like Canada, you can't shoot someone, even in self defense. It's considered murder, unfortunately, there is no castle doctrine or stand your ground laws in Canada.
Justin 640 I live in Canada they need to change that law
@@jamesgreenhouse1613 Bullshit
They would have started backing up the shooter.
I lived an hour north of this, not close enough to be worried, but close enough to feel the wave of emotion and the pain that came with it. This shook Atlantic Canada, and this was a first for many. It was a catalyst for the gun law changes, both firearms Justin had are both now blacklisted.
Ever wonder why these shootings happen? Perhaps for the reason of passing laws to disarm citizens. People can easily be brainwashed into an idea and would be willing to die for it to manifest. Communism. Canada is almost there.
He said the police were soldiers, protecting the rich from the poor. That there should be an uprising. Sounds like Marxism. Exactly why they are against police and rioting here in the US.
Antifa
Congrats on throwing away your freedom
@@arizonapatriot5642 I was 12. Only guns I knew were Nerf buddy
Just goes to show what one man can do
it rubs me the wrong way that they call it a carbine in police hands but suddenly its an evil assault rifle when a civilian owns it
+mwmwmwmwmmdw It's an assault rifle when being used to assault the public and it's a carbine when being used as a tool to protect the public.
+Flowrider except the media still calls it an assault rifle even when legally license gun owners buy them to use at a shooting range peacefully also civillians cant own assault rifles in canada as fully automatic guns have been prohibted from purchase for 40 years now
+mwmwmwmwmmdw Yes I'm well aware of our firearms legislation. Still have no problem with the terminology the media is using on this topic. The whole point is they're actually trying to avoid creating public aversion to the idea of equipping RCMP with more firepower. Maybe because they rightly feel some guilt. Maybe the media in Canada is beginning to feel partly responsible for the slow roll out of "patrol carbines" due to their previous hyping up of the supposedly deadly consequences of the evil taser after Vancouver.
Mostly the media. The Mounties out my way call them semi automatic rifles or carbines
It's the same for America.
Haven't had a puff in 3 days and just finished listening to a metalica cd...Look out world.
sup dog 🤣🤣🤣👍
🎥👀on lookout for u sup cat-dog
sup dog, sup ...in all fairness it was Megadeth so you’ll be okay. 🤣
@Wade ur a God😂😂😂😭😭😭
(FBI) breaks in the house lol
Had the civilians been able to arm themselves........they had to hide in fear.
RCMP THE KINDEST, nices , fair , good police men ,God Bless their families,sending love and prayers fr.P.E.I.❤
I still remember what my daughter wrote on out calendar. "No school loose killer"
At least he looked both ways before crossing the street.
Ah yes. Carbines make you EQUAL to the threat. Think about that for a second. Take all the time you need.
@@onesilentarrow????
FBI B
Thought I could get along with this until they started blaming guns 🙄
i guess the guns will have a day in court
king valk, and Megadeth...that was the line to not cross. All seriousness went out the window.
@@titaniumman_22 maybe if more people in Canada owned guns then hell since he didn't kill civis then one of them could have disabled him or killed him instead of letting those cops die
@@kingvalk5219 dude the cops had guns. It didnt stop him.
Phalanx I’ll say the “American” interpretation, probably the meaning for his “if other people had” usually people have more then pistols (which is what the officers had) in their homes. I’ve known and know many who have SCARs, M16s, Hunting rifles (snipers but not called snipers) and so on. There are examples of civilians stopping the criminal with their own weapons.
Oh boy, times have surely changed. Raised in a home where my father taught me about firearms and how to properly transport them and respect them seeing this is nuts. We had a shooter in a neighborhood much like my own last year and in both these cases the shooter stood out like a sore thumb and everyone knew what was going down when shots rang out. Situational awareness people I got that in the military and there’s allot of us in this neighborhood. There’s allot of us armed in this neighborhood but actually taking action to save lives and stop this person puts you and your family at risk of the law. That’s what’s wrong, people are afraid to act because their afraid of taking the law into their own hands and that’s screwed up. If you see a guy kitted out in full battle gear armed walking down the road in a residential neighborhood believe me my eyes are on you. I’m going to arm myself and I’m going to observe you all the while on the phone with authorities. You raise that weapon in a threatening manner IM DROPPING YOU. A grown man dressed like that armed too the teeth walking down a neighborhood, that’s a threat.
Bravo,I'm right with ya there, fella. Protect the innocent, to hell with the stupid.
Ok Rambo.. You’d also be likely to shoot an innocent person or encourage someone who doesn’t have proper training to shoot an innocent person. It’s tricky in America, because in many states, people are legally allowed to walk the streets with these weapons. Also, in any given direction that you point your gun, there are likely other people down range of the possible shooter. It’s not as simple as the old west movies
@@Adam-of-the-earth I have proper training Adam lol more than know
@@Adam-of-the-earth now that I have more time to respond to your statement. The guy in the photo is dressed like Rambo. No one with combat experience would ever dress like that. I live in America and folks just don’t dress and arm themselves and walk through their neighborhood like that. Not seen that in 56 years. Lol if you do see it I guarantee the police will respond rather quickly. In very rural areas you might have someone walking down their dirt road to a home built range but if in a neighborhood they’ve got their weapon in a case. Here’s a good example, I had finished my deployment and was home and a friend and I had driven several hours to a very remote lake boat ramp early in the morning. We were in a gravel parking lot enjoying some coffee before we put our boat in. Two couples pulled in and put their boat in parked their vehicle and trailer and boarded their boat. Pulled away from their dock and was sorting things out probably 50 feet away. This guy pulls up in a beat up 4 door and parks behind some shrubs next to the lake probably 50 feet from us but doesn’t see us. He’s acting weird as hell sitting in his car cursing slamming his hand on his wheel. He gets out goes to his trunk and pulls a shot gun cursing the whole time and peeking through the bushes at the people that just put in. I just slid in to my jeep upholstered my 45, racked one and waited. Told my buddy this might get messy. I was waiting for the guy to raise the shot gun then I would have distracted him and if he had turned on me in a threatening matter I would have taken the shot. He kept moving from front to back of that car but never raised that gun. Finally he and I made eye contact and he got in his car and left throwing gravel everywhere. Thank God I had some cell phone I called it in and I warned the people in the boat. Weird they put their boat on their trailer and left. Fish and wildlife as well as the local sheriff caught the guy. Situational awareness and knowing how to use a firearm could save others and yourself. I didn’t have to pull the trigger, I didn’t show my weapon but if I had too I would have to save save others and myself. No this isn’t the Wild West and believe it or not shoot outs didn’t happen as much in that time period Hollywood per-trays everyone was pretty damn equal carrying a gun and getting shot was a death sentence. Lol and as far as innocent people getting shot well that comes to training as well you don’t just pray and spray you get into position and take your shot. I’ve seen assholes like this walking down a alley carrying a RPG or a AK with a tactical vest and that’s a target. Lol watched a guy trip holding a RPG round and blow up. Keep that cap on pal they don’t like to be dropped lol.
I agree with you man, if law doesn't effect to save innocent lives ill react by dropping him also, I also own gun and was tought like you, learn how to clear the gun and safely store them. I also do have a shotgun loaded for home defense, its loaded and sitting beside my pc desk within reach, NEVER wish to use it but if my life depends on survival..yes you bet
Canadian soldiers were outstanding in South Korea .Today men who are living protected in the offices are failing the residents and police
When you watch rambo for two days straight
forkda crab32 plays red dead redemption once
when you play gta two days straight
While going through weed withdrawal. For a pothead dude was planning alot and working hard to afford all that gear. Too bad he didn't put that drive and focus towards something good. Sad to hear of stories like this, has to be rough signing up as a cop nowadays knowing that every call might be some random nutjob out to kill anyone in an uniform.
THAT'LL DO IT..YOU CAN LEARN A LOT FROM THOSE MOVIE'S,REALLY...
forkda crab32 wow lol
here's an idea maybe it wasn't the guns the weed the video games or the heavy metal maybe he'll just out of his damn mind.
And why is he out of his damn mind
It's bc he must be brainwashed to think that the police are bad or something
It bothers me how people blames video games, music, guns, etc instead of mental illness
@@malcolm197 I agree. While videogames, music, guns, yada yada do appeal to those who are mentally unstable, they are not the CAUSE of it. They can further entice thoughts of homicide and whatnot due to videogames being violent, heavy metal being very aggressive, and whatnot, but it is not the full story. The full story starts with mental health, and I don't see why people don't understand that. _source: psychologically insane, depressed, and whatnot for almost my entire life_
@@mwk740 Or just... mental illness / natural instability since a lot of that has also been proven to be genetic.
Doug Larsh was a good man. I can not speak to any of the other officers involved. But Dougs first assignment was my hometown in rural New Brunswick. He was a really good guy. He use to go to the local area and play pick up hockey with the local kids in his Montreal Canadians jersey. Lol. He couldn't play all that well. But that wasn't the point. He was trying to bond with the locals. We lost a good one!
Duuuude! Did you see those gas prices at 15:28 !?!?!? I know the exchange rate isn't the same from CAN to US but damn! And that was 9 years ago!!!
Pretty reasonable price per litre. There are 4.546 litres in an Imperial gallon; US gallon is a bit smaller.
@@peggyrobertson8169 Oh, that makes sense. I forgot that US uses gallons, not liters. But still, wasn't that $13.46 a liter?
Imagine playing MW3 with this dude and he gets extremely toxic and talks about how he is going to shoot up some poeple. You brush it off as bluff and the next day this happens.
@xRinneRebirthx 55 people thinks it's funny, because it is
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Withdrawal from weed?... are you joking. Ridiculous. He knew what he was doing, he was messed up. The biggest problem is why??
citizens are regarded as livestock to our masters and their guards. they believe our rights are like a drivers licence, a revocable privilege.
That is absolutely true. I'm not surprised that some people go off the rails like this. Most people don't even realise how draconian the establishment has become, or how it's been for decades
He said corrupt government
No . SHUT UP IT WAS THE WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS 😂😂
Only he know that reason why and killing sometimes helps might sound crazy but you got to do what you got to do
This was 1 guy with 1 rifle. Now imagine hundreds or thousands.
The scariest part is, he isn’t wrong. We were given the right to bare arms to fight against corruption and we all know the govt is corrupt, it just so happens to be the only govt officials he could get to was the guys that have no say so about the laws and how this country runs
Yeah. If he wanted to fight corruption he would go the slow and moral way: advocating for bills that support his political goals.
We can't bare arms here! 🇨🇦
The way these police brutalized the public in C lockdown, shocked the world.
We not gonna talk about how he only used 5 round mags
right he was a good shot too
We should though, because that's a very valid point. Maybe it would have been much worse if they were 10 round mags right (sarcasm)?
@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO kzhead.info/sun/lZaOoM6mbHaIY6c/bejne.html IF you watch that video they show 2 shooters of different experience shooting a total of 30 rounds with 15, 10, and 6. The times don't change as much as people would think, especially If someone takes their time to practice. Most Police officers I've personally met and talked to either got most of their training either in their free time or getting on the Swat team, this may vary but as I said that is from who I've gotten to talk to. Police in general are very under-trained and under budgeted when people say they should be a citizens line of defense when in the video i posted above, it shows a rough average of 22 seconds to fire 30 rounds from a handgun. Thats 30 potential deaths, even with 6 round mags, when police can be minutes away. Now im not saying this to support the idea everyone should carry a gun, but I think magazine limits are not as effective as everyone would like to think. Theres also the factor a criminal is less likely to follow them, after all we banned murdering your fellow man yet people still do that.
Americans think it helps you could go buy a musket and you need no wait time it not hard to do the same a single shot rifle odd but I guess it helps kill less so by the time the cops are there
@@TimVette - I agree and that's what I was pointing out (sarcasm, -because 10 round mags are the limit in California, where I live). Especially given the increased firepower (velocity, bullet size) and accuracy of a rifle. It does take time to reload, and so there is a definite advantage to larger capacity magazines. That cannot even be argued. But the point is, someone with 5 or 10 round magazines can still be quite deadly (but at a disadvantage against someone with a similar weapon and a higher capacity magazine). And some people if they're very well practiced with their guns, can reload pretty quickly.
In the industry, this is known as “Unprofessional Hack Tabloid Journalism” but call it what you want.
I call it Yellow Journalism.
it's actually called wing-taka fellow killer journalism
Cowardly comment
@@era273 How? He called it just how it is. For them to blame this on weed and metal music is incredibly ridiculous. His statement of "don't worry ma'am, I am not here for civilians. Just government officials." tells all we need to know about his motivation. But they don't want to have THAT discussion....
He was an immature young male who liked smoking pot and playing video games and was into guns, you just described half of Wisconsin! And we don't have that shit going on down here!
That lady should not be blaming herself for anyones death
I can’t imagine how hard it was for his dad to make that call to ID him.
No ones ever smoked weed and gone on a shooting spree its too much hassle
Plus it's hard to find munchies when your shooting police.
More set up propaganda, that's what they want us to think
Yeah that's a bunch of bullshit... Weed withdrawals.... Lol I have smoked on and off for 30 years.. Don't think so. Try heroin withdrawals.. People get sick and will do anything and isn't weed legal now in your land??? Lol. They blamed weed and music. I thought that happens only in America. Guess not.. I think the answer is very easy... More people more crazy shit.. That simple there's alot of mental illness in the world.
Odinsrage 14 if you smoke all day for years than quit you will have some pretty severe symptoms like irritation, irrational mood swings stuff of that sort, defiantly can’t compare too drugs that give you a physical sickness like heroin but I’ll tell you from my personal experience quitting weed when your dependent on it 24/7 is very hard
@@shanegarcia7057 And sorry but if you have that issue when you don't have weed then maybe your fucked in the head. Weed withdrawals don't exist. Try Heroin and see if weed WD bother you ever again. It won't because its in your head. Its true.
This is called not having enough training not having enough situation Awareness And this is called saving yourself as a cop you should not be begging people to help you you should be helping yourself
This comprehensive and detailed news report is now in need of updating since the time it was originally broadcasted. What is the current situation with RCMP as of now (2023)? Note: I find it difficult to understand why no RCMP members are allowed to criticize the RCMP, why? Public criticism by frontline members of RCMP would likely have kept the issue of insufficient fire power and training for its officers as a top priority, for their own safety as well as in providing for the safety of all Canadian citizens!
Civilian possession - " dangerous semi-automatic assault weapon" Authoritarian possession - "carbine"
Apparently Canadian journalism is still stuck in the 80’s.
How
I guess you prefer stateside news, that does nothing but lie to you, right zombie?
@@russellwilliams4317 calm down, ey? No need to get butthurt, he’s right.
@@nickleback3695 Explain? I highly doubt you can.
@@russellwilliams4317 give the man a break.
Wife's up set knowing her son isn't coming home... Those officers knowing they don't give a damn about that...
Also, AR does *not stand for assault rifle* It means Armalite Rifle
SHHH! we don't want the snowflakes knowing! the scarier it sounds the better for us!
For me it means Automatic Rifleman
@@gremlin_uwu Automatic means you pull the trigger once and it dumps the entire mag.. there is *no such thing as an automatic ar15, they are all semi-automatics.. if you see an ar15 shooting automatic gunfire then it has m4 or m16 military cold-forged parts put on their rifle, meaning its no longer just an AR15* First AR15 was the semi-automatic, lesser grade copy of a vietnam standard issue military firearm, nowadays we have incredible technology.. and ill tell you one time than semi automatic varmit riffles (556, 22, 9mm,) shouldnt be you biggest problem about firearms
Can you tell me what armalite means and it's origin? Just curious
javel rebite it’s the company that produced the first ar-15 for the army during Vietnam
So he killed the cops because he listened to heavy metal during a "marijuana withdraw"? Ahh I see now.
Marijuana thing isn't necessarily true but studies show loud music e.g heavy metal can cause increased stress and aggression so it could have pushed him over the edge if he was on his tippy toes at the edge of the cliff.
+HitHarderDubstep its a trigger, for a manic, NOT A reason.... This POS would have snapped sooner or latter. Marijuana is likely the reason he gave up and did NOT go out with a fire fight
people who listen to rap music kill people everyday with their thug wanna be bullshit. when was the last time u saw a metalhead killing another person? pppfffss
+mEHpleSyrup that explains why gangs in da hood shoot each other.. heavy metal music..
+Krumple Themal Not specifically heavy metal, any loud noises could make you more stressed and prone to violence so if your blasting your sound too high then it's a precursor.
If those civilians were armed then instead of taking pictures they could of been taking shots.
Here is a man who would not take it anymore
Imagine, Imagine, if this happened in the States. Half the trailers would have rifles and maybe 1 officer would have been killed before the neighborhood open fired on him.
"This is America"
No people will help him hunting pigs
@@abdulazizali9935 no they'd do the opposite liberals don't own guns conservatives do
@@Gerardo-dt8xf north america in canada
@@abdulazizali9935 lol not helping him kill police can you read
The government always need to be reminded that its citizens have the power and the government should fear the citizens. Just saying.
Potential shooter spotted .
Amen to that!
You posted 2 years ago. This is 2023 & we're now a nation of eunuchs.
@@webleypug leave the big cities and it’s a different story as the overall. I travel a lot for work and seen the diversity in America. The news, Hollywood etc is just a singular echo chamber that only represents the small portion of America. A basic idea to explain this concept is a Hollywood high school movie. Ever noticed it’s always the same clicks and style overall. Most of the world thinks American schools are just like a Hollywood movie representation but honestly could you really relate to a Hollywood high school movie made in the last 30 years that was relevant at the time it came out or after since you where in school? If your not 55+ I’m pretty sure your answer is the same as a high school student right now. The reason is a group of people that export culture for a living gets an concept that they noticed gets attention and rolls with it until the viewers are so tired and look away. That’s why you see something like the news insult Trump when he was in office so much. It was business of viewership but when Biden got office and there wasn’t all these stuff to talk about with Trump, news companies had massive layoffs that has never been seen before in American History. It’s all a game of what they show and represent. For example why is there so much talk about what is male or female trans or whatever when they only represent .5% of the population. Heck with how the news talk you would think everyone would know atleast a single trans person and there all over. I’m just saying
Antares - Retired here, but my kids would probably agree with your movie analogy. Rural living is different all right, & it's a bit simpler to protect yourself. Yeah, what you initially posted is the way it SHOULD be. The radical feminist media whores with their beta-male mercenaries have got us so scared of our own shadows that we're looking suspiciously at one another or at the sky instead of at them. Been keeping track of all the enviro scares since the mid 60s & not ONE prediction has come true. MSM in the past 2-3 years is now the news (instead of reporting it), & most is lies, specious "facts", & perverted social engineering schemes (we all know someone in our lives who's gay, but who's ever know a trans?). Marxism predominates in the West now & it may be a very long time before we're free.
That was my birthday that day. He walked across my front lawn ,I remember watching him walk by his eyes looked exactly how they described them. I am now 13 turning 14 soon. I will never forget that day. God bless all of the souls affected by this.
You remember him walking across your lawn when you were 3……okay lol
fake
In a nation that has taken away the rights of the average citizen to self defense, still didn't keep this from happening.
A mentally ill person goes nuts & they blame the guns. The real culprit is the abysmal lack of resources for mentally ill people. It is far easier to blame firearms, it is a cop out. Firearms in the hands of law abiding citizens are no threat to anyone but the lawless & totalitarian government. Condolences to those that gave there lives to stop the maniac.
It's like blaming mis spelled words on ur pencil
What's bizarre to me is that Canada has country wide health care, they don't have to pay much for services.
@mike A When has banning ANYTHING eve stopped it from happening , I can tell you NEVER.
@@1080sucks actually,,,, when I said I DO, my wife put a bann on her pussy and now its 7years later lol
she's bitching I'm fishing that is actually an incredible comparison😂
When I don’t have weed I don’t go out on a killing spree.
mtthedon aha I still can’t believe they tried to blame weed withdrawals
hey my comment was deleted but i got a notification. there must be some mistake lol.
you could. keep smoking see i helped someone today.
Who are you. Sincerely USMC
You dangerous bastarad you!!
Looking both ways before crossing the street is very important !
The blubbering, tearful goons featured in this crack me up. That one at the funeral couldn’t even get the guy’s name right 😂
I experienced a nearly identical problem when I was a police officer in the Atlanta area back after 9-11. We were totally outgunned by the average street gang/criminal, as well as a group of armed robbers who were hitting area banks. We carried 9mm's and shotguns. While our training was so far beyond any other agency and we won every gunfight for decades, we were definitely at a disadvantage. As the threats increased to us and the command staff and politicians dismissed our desperate pleas to step up our firepower, officers started secretly carrying and training AR-15's and AK's that they hoped they would never need. I left law enforcement at that time because I did not have the tools to do the job. Then after the deaths of two officers who were ambushed, they FINALLY opened a program where officers could buy their own carbines and go through training to qualify with them despite nearly all of us having been trained in the military to use them. But only sergeants could carry them. It took a LONG time to finally get them to the front line. Now things have FINALLY CHANGED and they have become an invaluable tool.
If i was a cop yeah i would roll with an akm
Dave, where did the hand guns originate from? I used to be a commisionare and did security for the RCMP and always had the impression it was safer then the US. Glad you were never shot or killed.
Just carry what I do, a Ruger 57. It is one sweet pistol.
When it comes to cop's not being able to get their jobs done you can thank the libtards. Period.
@@IndyDog-ns8ws Sure in the hell is. I have one in my collection of different firearms
so when it's police it's "patrol carbine", if civilians it's "assault rifle"
lol... not according to the bias media... according to the media, an AR-15 in the hand of a police officer is a ''Patrol Carbine''... the same AR-15 legaly owned by a civilian with the proper license is called an ''assault rifle''...
It's a tactic they use in trying to negatively promote rifles in the hands of civilians and making people scared of them, although it's fine for the police because "they need them" while we don't. And the that tactic somehow works, people agree with this bs
blou32 when Toronto Police got carbines, they were labelled assault rifles or Military grade rifles. Left wing media hates guns. Period. Regardless of who owns them.
service rifles, patrol carbine etc are all assault rifles.
The actual definition of an 'assault rifle' is simply the automatic capability. If it can fire fully-automatic, and it's a rifle with a magazine, it's an assault rifle. Regardless of barrel length.
I looked at the crime stats once for New Brunswick, and compared to some areas in the US, they have a very low crime rate. I'm not surprised the local police never encountered an extreme situation such as this. As far as I know, it's unheard of. Those unfortunate policemen, weren't trained, nor equipped unfortunately to deal with this murderer.
A famous man once said when you give up your freedom for safety you don't deserve neither one criminals break the law law abiding citizens have to pay for it
Right, because the solution isn't to keep this one guy from getting deadly weaponry, it's to give everyone else deadly weaponry so we can have more people getting shot. Typical gun nut logic.
@@mafuletrekkie Of course, the solution is to make everyone else give up their guns because of the actions of a small minority people and then ignore the law abiding gun owners when they no longer have the means to defend themselves from other forms of violent crime who are unaffected by gun control. Typical gun-grabber logic
Your straw man is pretty flimsy lol
@@dunklederkleson7285 who
@@elvismburu1510 There is more straw in that argument than all of Nebraska.
This was a sad day for us here in New Brunswick and for the officers who lost there lives. Canada is very similar in a lot of things, one thing we notably differ in, is our gun culture. I joined the army at 16 (yes in Canada you can join the regular army at 16) in the infantry your shadow is your rifle, however many Canadians don’t know what a rifle is besides seeing them on tv, and movies. in a few comment it’s hit right on the head when we don’t address mental health issues. No matter where the next active shooter tragedy happens, it’s a sad day for humanity and also for legal gun owners who have done nothing wrong.
It was a wonderful day thank God for dead cops hallelujah
NO, you can't You need to be 17 AND have a guardian sign for you. You can't join the re4serves until 17 either. They have CADETS for kids. Maybe in the 1960s, but definitely NOT since the 80s at least.
I’m pretty sure y’all’s gun culture is actually pretty similar, most people in the US don’t know rifles either.
@Some Random Introvert buddy... I’m in Texas and own rifles. Country folk sure but the rest no
@@thatsgangst6026 I'm sorry your parents are siblings. It must be really hard and confusing. I hope someday you find the help you so desperately need.
Great Production, I remember you from edmonton, Keep up the good work
Imagine if all of the citizens watching from their houses were equipped with carbines, he would have probably been stopped after the first few shots
I have to say that i am amazed how calm the father sounded when he identified his son to 911
Robert Straatman probably didn’t know his son killed anyone at that point
@@philipwalsh9690 he knew there were multiple people killed at that point but he was in shock
Sounded like he thought he was being a good boy for turning his son in
He has to slow down he’s talking anyway to give that information clear
@@normandy8806 who and what are you ...!!?????
"who should have access to this rifle?" "Everyone" There I fixed your error guy.
Even Justin?
@@London_J yeah. if everyone was more comfortable with owning and using firearms he wouldn't have taken so many lives.
J05hFontenot has he gone in homes to hurt civilians they would have had NOTHING to defend themselves.
@@rgjr.6055 because they were unarmed. Are you aware of how many home invasions are thwarted in the US because of legal gun ownership?
Even terrorists and the insane?
Bro thought he was in gta no Offence
How does homeschooling have anything to do with what he did? His siblings weren’t killers.
This is why, in a sustained firefight, your goal is to gain and most importantly maintain contact. This is a foundational principle that we train in the military (at least in the US military), but I see it sadly missing in many LE situations (both in the US and this in Canada). When you are engaged, you maintain the engagement, regardless of who gets hit around you. The reasons you do this are manifold. First of all, it makes no sense to start treatment when you yourself are in danger...that has a nasty way of producing two casualties. Second of all, you maintain contact with the enemy and comms with your teammates. This allows comrades and also battle staff to track enemy movements, thereby better directing support assets and reinforcements to the fight. If you lose contact, your support assets will likely miss the enemy altogether or may walk into an ambush (as happened here). When you fail to maintain contact with an enemy force, that force then gains freedom of maneuver (which you deny by maintaining the engagement with them). This freedom of maneuver allows them to either escape or reposition to engage again from an advantageous position (as happened here). I don't blame the officer here. I believe that this is a systemic failure with the way that LEO are trained.
Find them, fix them, flank them, then f#$^ em...former 19d here, all I take from this is that Canada is a hell hole, those who desire security over freedom shall receive neither and I thank God that I live in a country where my neighbors have more firepower than the local sheriff
@@Cyph3rX ok so now look at how much more cops have been killed in American you guys are a lot worse
@Sean Marshall true that. I used to carry tourniquets and tampons, at least half a dozen each. Things don't weigh anything and you never know when they're gonna help save someone's ass. Agree on cover vs concealment as well. I see a lot of indecision from LE. They can't decide if they want to move in and engage or stand back and hold a perimeter and that leads to the weird situations where they're standing behind small trees in the middle of a killzone. You have to action quickly, either withdraw to a well-covered position or aggressively move to gain fire and maneuvers superiority to action on and kill your enemy.
Guy was one hell of a shot I'll give him that..
Well said. “Make contact with, Close with, and neutralize the enemy.”
That's shocking they aren't equipped to defend themselves never mind defend the people. How can you send officers out to do a dangerous job so inadequately equipped in this day and age...
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@Riseagainst Theleft I see you prefer your head in the sand. I'd be happy to mix up a hole of fresh, wet concrete. It's permanent so should work better. Think on it.
All those houses he casually walked by... anyone of them could have had an ar16.. but no.. we canadians are helpless sheep waiting for the slaughter. .. so many windows.. so many chances..
They at least need 30 round mags and a sight
You must be an American. Here in CANADA, people do NOT walk around with a gun. Unless they have MENTAL ISSUES like that joker. Or are LAW officials. It's CHANGING now, though. Gangbangers are getting handguns from the US and getting wilder with Covid-19 and the cramp it put on their "style" and operations. So the Montreal SWAT just put a tender for heavier assault weapons using 7.62mm instead of the C8s and P90s they use.
Times have unfortunately changed, and not for the better! Every officer, every department needs to be ready for these situations. Give them men and women the damn tools they need to do their job!
All those poor families and their loved ones. 😢
The family's knew what they were getting into when they wanted to be a cop harden up Sunshine 🤣
@@yamumshouse I’m a 100% mommies boy I can’t
Marijuana withdrawal? You gotta be kidding me.
Yep! Its a drug, you get withdrawals just like alcohol or cigarettes.
There are the small psychological things what comes after it. I've been smoking dank too long.
Weed is for children, cocaine and pills is for adults.
COD ProCamp on god
@@mycrofts1234 is not a member of Mensa
From the research I've done, this law enforcement agency seems to not be able to handle most extreme situations Guns or No Guns.
Because they are like FBI in USA, they don't carry much powerful guns like FBI... They sent wrong people to this scenario...
I wonder if the OPP could have done any better or The Sûreté du Québec or the Newfoundland Constabulary, if none of them could then We need better police training
Do they need American to help them?
@@alexanderfire9997 no we don't need America (don't tell them about the oil sands)
@@alexanderfire9997 Hell No, we will just makes things worst. Like we always do, and we do mess it up will just make a propaganda movie about it and change the history like old-school John Wayne style.
I'll watch this again I watch it about 5 years or so ago but mannnn was it insane tbh
Your doing an Awesome job, I am our Safety Team Corrdinator in Warm Springs Ga. Where are you located and do you offer on site training.
Bullshit... a 100 meters! We use carabines in the danish army... and they easily take out targets at 300 - 400 meters....
I'm saying that training at max a 100 meters is stupid when the weapon is much more capable! Now they have a decent weapon but gives themselves a handicap already!! When they run into a sniper at 200 meters for example they haven't trained for it but the weapon can easily do it.. the officers can't.. That's just stupid in my opinion! And makes it seem like that haven't learned a thing from this! Don't give yourselves that disadvantage!!
Canadians cops are too busy eating poutines to fire a weapon properly.
+xMurkNx Ur a fool
xMurkNx Guess you didn't see the video? Not the lack of will to train.. it's the lack of weapons to fire...
exactly
Man got a 5 star wanted level
Oof i live in moncton😂
LMT_DAGER Nova Scotia here
LMT_DAGER you live on beachwood B
Ooontarriooo But where are the tanks tho?
#GTA
"Marijuana withdrawal ".... tell me you've never smoked weed without telling me you've never smoked weed 😅😅
It was the “heavy metal & pot!” 🤣🤣
What a joke!!!! 😡
It's amazing that the killer's gun is an "assault rifle" and the cop's are semi automatic rifles. Also, since when is being homeschooled evidence of anything nefarious? These people definitely only want to you act and think one way or see you as a potential threat.
I can tell you have no idea what you’re talking about when It comes to guns because both guns are semi automatic
I distinctly remember a couple times in the video where his rifle was called "A semi automatic rifle".
@@ceremyjlarkson9475 I'm over 8min into it and they haven't used" assault" rifle yet
@@jhtsurvival Yeah, I think they're just using it so they don't say semi automatic rifle over and over and over again
@@micaheiber1419 LMFAOOOO
He was addressing his grievances with his government on a whole nother level
It needed to happen
It didn’t need to happen and too bad it can’t happen again
@@Jcron13oh it will there’s more idiots out there it’s sad but it’s a reality