Slavoj Žižek & Lee Smolin on Sabine Hossenfelder
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Slavoj Žižek is international director of the Birkbeck Institute for the Humanities at the University of London and a senior researcher at the University of Ljubljana’s Department of Philosophy. He was also the guest for episodes 109-on psychoanalysis, wokeness, racism, and a hundred other topics-and 118, where he appeared with Sean Carroll to discuss quantum physics, the multiverse, and time travel. Lee Smolin is a founding and senior faculty member at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics, and the author of a number of bestselling books, including The Trouble with Physics (Mariner, 2006). He was the guest for episode 148, in which he and Robinson discussed presentism, the foundations of mathematics, and the philosophy of quantum mechanics. In this episode, Robinson, Slavoj, and Lee discuss time, space, superposition, and other concepts at the core of physics, as well as postmodernism, the big bang, problems with democracy, and much more. Lee is also an Honorary Fellow of the John Bell Institute for the Foundations of Physics. If you’re interested in the foundations of physics-which you absolutely should be-then please check out the JBI, which is devoted to providing a home for research and education in this important area. Any donations are immensely helpful at this early stage in the institute’s life.
Lee’s Website: leesmolin.com
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PBS spacetime has always been my favourite for physics communication to the layperson.
Happy to see Smolin is in better shape! I keep my fingers crossed for Him!
Followed Sabine for a couple of years now. Very smart. Highly recommend watching her channel.
The one crossover I never expected. 😂
Sabine is terrific! Brilliant and funny. A great teacher, bringing important ideas to the layperson.
yeah but she’s a terf and a contrarian, so
I love Sabine! So much information so well presented and with an incredible dry humor! And her willingness to apply her strict scientific methodology approach to other topics is greatly appreciated.
A lot of people don't like scientific facts getting in the way of their beliefs.
@@DawidUliczny-ro7eo And are willing to do any and everything to stop it!
Her video on "why capitalism is good" was embarrassing. She made up facts as she went along. But that's another story.
@@kvaka009 While I do not agree with every conclusion she reaches outside of her field of expertise, (ad verecundiam fallacy) I find she does thorough research and rational evaluations. Often providing levels of new information on subjects I have followed. And I also have to consider that she lives in a somewhat different society than I do here in the Midwest USA. But I did not find that video anywhere near embarrassing nor false. Just that I am hard core Socialist. At least as I define the term!
@glenncurry3041 capitalism is global and the emergence of money is shared history. Sabine just warmed up the common pernicious myths that are false and very misleading. I do agree however that her vids on physics and natural sciences are excellent. But her proclamations on other important issues are pretty misleading. I attribute it to the youtube celebrity curse.
Dr. smolin.. always so happy to see you! You are rocking it and you sound great!
Please get Sean Carroll and Sabine to talk about many worlds.
That would be interesting
Yes! I'm surprised Sean hasn't had her on his podcast.
I'm quite sure Sean Carroll just doesn't like her for some reason. It's impossible that he managed not to talk about or with her without actively getting out of the way. I think Sean Carroll just doesn't like controversies and that's totally fine
@@Neomadra what controversies?
Hellyeah!
feel like the clip could have been a bit longer
I read in the comments that she is human. Every day I ride a bike with a helmet. Every time I fassen the buckle I can see Albert Einstein riding around Princeton without a helmet ❤. Sabrine can see a thing differently that I might see it. I can still understand her argument without impruning her motavations. As for the firms that support her I love them all. I think they serve me well. She had never endorsed a product or service I have not wanted to purchase. Sometimes we must live and let live ❤
We should appreciate intelligent scientists for their science insights. For the minefield of pure politics, many scientists are apt to be too comfortably ensconced, insulated, out of their areas of expertise, and probably out of their depth. Like Einstein - that guy again - who once ventured into social commentary and expressed his hope that pre-WW2 Germany would soon get over its "distemper" and "return to the traditions of Kant and Goethe".
Slavoj and Sabine sitting in a tree 🎵 D-E-B-A-T-I-N-G
To the KZhead money-maker of this channel: why not interview Sabine directly, instead of raising opinions of others? 👎
This is a very surprising video title.
She recently seems to be understanding how much trouble we are in with climate change. She still uses the phrase "climate doomer" derogatorily. Her pragmatic perspective is improving faster than her call to action is improving. If she's not careful, she'll be perceived as a "doomer" soon. Then maybe she'll understand how that label is pacifying people more than any real doomer is.
Lee Smolin looks better in this video. Not shaking much. :)
So in other words, watch out for the Bee.
I don't understand this. Zizek talks about "moral popularizer" and then Lee "auto popularizer". But everything I've seen from Sabine was about science, presented in an easy to digest form? Usually, this is called being a "science communicator" or maybe engaging in "popular science"?
I haven't found anyone on youtube I agree with more (other than maybe Richard Dawkins). Her belief about no free-will, the beginning of universe, multi-universe theory, I agree with her on it all.
Her free will video is quite bad, even casual philosophy learners and more deeply learned people online have commented so.
@@1872959 the notion free-will doesn't exist is shared by most scientists.
Dawkins is a Mechanical Turk.
I don't trust transphobes and sycophants of capitalism
@@lovetownsend maybe you can answer something that's irked me about this topic. If my mind is really just doing calculation and internal consensus gathering in concert with the laws of the universe, it would still be MY collection of atoms doing the calculating and consensus gathering. MY collection of molecules would still be the ones producing my actions. How is that not free will? If having internal information allows for my actions to be predicted, doesn't that improve the case for free will? If my actions had no reason and were unpredictable, how would that be free will? Pop science/philosophy discussions about this tend to avoid definitions enough to talk past each other and give the illusion of an interesting debate.
Žižek is proof that there are parallel universes and aliens came to visit us
Her free will video is pretty awful I'd say, and that's even with me standing with Slavoj on it not being a very interesting topic (he's never commented on the video, but just on the free will topic in philosophy).
Zizek himself has transformed himself from a philosopher to a media personality, more or less analogous to Sabine. They both created their job.
I can't hardly understand either of these two...
:)
you mean you 'can' hardly understand either of these two multi lingual gentlemen.
@@stephenmorton8017We all knew what he meant! Please get of your high grammar police horse!!!
@@Disgracefoold no. i won't. sorry. it was incomprehensible.
Agreed. It took a minute for my brain to tune in to language and by then the video was nearly over😀. I think that garbled speech is one of the perils of growing old. I’ll be there soon.
Buddy you need another optometrist.😂
Sabine has recently started making ideological videos, and they're a total mess. She wildly misinterprets scientific studies (even in ways the authors explicitly warn against), makes basic factual errors, invents her own facts, even invents her own definitions for well-established terms & concepts, and generally displays a fundamental lack of understanding of the topics she's chosen. There's no shortage of debunking videos, many from actual experts in these fields, who point out her errors in painstaking detail.
Although I've found a few things with which I don't agree she's asking really valid questions and often finds approaches to their clarification which are at least worth listening to.
@@michaelburggraf2822 As one example, her “capitalism is good” video is chock full of factual errors. Her “history” of economics is (charitably) several decades out of date and cartoonishly naive at best. She can’t even accurately define “capitalism” in a video on the subject. She’s not asking valid questions or entertaining alternative perspectives, she’s not even playing devils advocate, she’s just… wrong. Wildly wrong, about the most uncontroversial, fundamental facts of the subject she’s trying to address. The video is actually worse than useless, because it’s chock full of flagrant misinformation. If you want a (much, much) more extensive critique, check out the response video by Unlearning Economics Live. The bottom line is that she’s making deeply flawed & misleading videos on subjects where she clearly lacks any real understanding, and thereby abusing her audience’s trust. I doubt she’d tolerate people butchering her field in the same way.
They seem the two Muppet Show old farts.🤣
ah, seemings.
Statler and Waldorf
it is the destiny of all human males to become grumpy men!
I lost some resect for Sabine when, in fall 2020, she hosted a video in which it was claimed that herd covid immunity had already been achieved… with the implication that no further mitigation measures are not needed or appropriate… No matter how you feel about various mitigation measures… herd immunity certainly had not been achieved in fall 2020… and it was irresponsible for her to use her implied expertise to promote that idea
Sabine rocks, but like everybody else, she has a mortgage.
Zizek came close to the man who gave the real landscape for the evolution of the earth and is the smartest teacher I have known. Hoped Zizek would dig the reality of our existence and find the philosophy of our life and consciousness, that turned his life upside down.
The only thing bad about Sabine is her hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance when it comes to veganism.
Wish they talked more about Fotini Markopoulou since Hossenfelder is just a "physics popularizer"
Damn, there are some ignorani commenting on this little vid. Maybe if you paid a little attention to what Either Lee or Sabine says, maybe you wouldn’t be so lost?
You can still disagree even after listening. To assume the only reason people could possibly disagree is because they just haven't listened is seriously flawed, and arrogant. "If you only were as smart as me then you would agree" ... is not a good argument.
She goofed on the transgender video. It was based mainly on a paper that has been thoroughly debunked and since Sabine made her video, the author has recanted many of the statements made therein
@@Groucho_Marxist_ASMR Her video on economics was likewise terrible. Deeply naive and riddled with basic factual & even definitional errors.
Zizek offering commentary on Sabine is annoying af
Sabine tells the truth and doesn't care who gets butt hurt about it.
Heh, I guess if opinions are truth. She should also really stick to her field or do more research before posting, but I get it, she's got to keep that money rolling in.
Everyone needs money. Not a valid criticism.
Money is not evil. Trying to make money is not evil.
@@zynga726Academia working more and more like company for money is bad for education and science. People who hoard money and have astronomically more than average person are bad for economy and society.
Slavo is a joke
But a good one
Total joke! And his Sylvester the Cat lisp only highlights the unseriousness and narcissism of his ideas.
I can't stand "scientists" like Sabine, Brian Keating, and Fridman.
Certainly at least two of them give off major Rogan vibes. If you want to make videos about politics, fine, make another channel. Don't make ostensibly science vids and then inject your personal political agenda into them. That's not what viewers want or expect when they click on an academic's content with a title that promises to be about science.
@@user-ej9ng2hx6u The part of your comment that ought to be in quotations is "Rogan vibes". Honestly, what an odd take.
@@razeezar How is that objectionable? Fridman worships Rogan. The best way to describe him is a boring, Russian Joe Rogan. They've done crossovers and Rogan gave him his watch. It's very cringey. Keating, just like Rogan, had Tom DeLonge on as an "expert" to talk about UFOs. That's already 2/3. I'm not as familiar with Sabine, but I've seen her compared to Keating and other objectionable figures.
@@razeezar Nothing I said is in quotes. You seem to be conflating my comment with the one I'm responding to. If you can't see it they've got you. You got got.
Sabine is a babe!
She turned to right wing grift it seems. First her transphobic and unscientific "trans women in sports" video, then Capitalism and science video, also ahistorical.
I don’t agree with someone = right wing
@@lovethemountainsokay
gross