Nice Math Olympiad Problem a^11+b^11=?

2024 ж. 25 Сәу.
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  • I don't have any tricks up my sleeve, so I'll just try a=1/2+z and b=1/2-z. Substitute into the second equation: (1/2+z)^2+(1/2-z)^2=1/2+2z^2=2. Thus, z=±√3/2, a=1/2±√3/2 and b=1/2∓√3/2. It is now easy enough to raise a and b to higher powers and cancel out some terms, but I'll leave that as an exercise. I'm guessing that the answer is around 30+29/32 or so.

    @roger7341@roger73414 күн бұрын
  • My favourite approach to solving these kinds of problems is using recurrence relations. Here is how I solved this problem. We are given that a + b = 1, a² + b² = 2 and are required to find the value of a¹¹ + b¹¹. As a preliminary remark, note that 2ab = (a + b)² − (a² + b²) = 1 − 2 = −1 so ab = −¹⁄₂. Therefore, (a − b)² = (a + b)² − 4ab = 1² − 4·(−¹⁄₂) = 3 so a and b are real. Let us define tₙ = aⁿ + bⁿ for any positive integer n, so we have t₁ = 1, t₂ = 2 and want to find the value of t₁₁. First, since (aⁿ + bⁿ)(a + b) = (aⁿ⁺¹ + bⁿ⁺¹) + ab(aⁿ⁻¹ + bⁿ⁻¹) we have tₙ·t₁ = tₙ₊₁ + ab·tₙ₋₁ and since t₁ = 1, ab = −¹⁄₂ this gives tₙ = tₙ₊₁ − ¹⁄₂·tₙ₋₁ and therefore (1) tₙ₊₁ = tₙ + ¹⁄₂·tₙ₋₁ so the sequence {tₙ} satisfies a second order linear homogeneous recurrence with constant coefficients. Secondly, we have a²ⁿ + b²ⁿ = (aⁿ + bⁿ)² − 2·aⁿbⁿ and therefore (2) t₂ₙ = tₙ² − 2·(−¹⁄₂)ⁿ Thirdly, we have a³ⁿ + b³ⁿ = (aⁿ + bⁿ)³ − 3·aⁿbⁿ·(aⁿ + bⁿ) and therefore (3) t₃ₙ = tₙ³ − 3·(−¹⁄₂)ⁿ·tₙ From (2) and the known value t₂ = 2 we get t₄ = 2² − 2·(−¹⁄₂)² = 4 − ¹⁄₂ = ⁷⁄₂ t₈ = (⁷⁄₂)² − 2·(−¹⁄₂)⁴ = ⁴⁹⁄₄ − ¹⁄₈ = ⁹⁷⁄₈ From (3) and the known value t₁ = 1 we get t₃ = 1³ − 3·(−¹⁄₂)·1 = 1 + ³⁄₂ = ⁵⁄₂ t₉ = (⁵⁄₂)³ − 3·(−¹⁄₂)³·(⁵⁄₂) = ¹²⁵⁄₈ + 3·(¹⁄₈)·(⁵⁄₂) = ²⁵⁰⁄₁₆ + ¹⁵⁄₁₆ = ²⁶⁵⁄₁₆ Finally, from (1) and using t₈ = ⁹⁷⁄₈, t₉ = ²⁶⁵⁄₁₆ we get t₁₀ = ²⁶⁵⁄₁₆ + (¹⁄₂)·(⁹⁷⁄₈) = ²⁶⁵⁄₁₆ + ⁹⁷⁄₁₆ = ³⁶²⁄₁₆ t₁₁ = ³⁶²⁄₁₆ + (¹⁄₂)·(²⁶⁵⁄₁₆) = ⁷²⁴⁄₃₂ + ²⁶⁵⁄₃₂ = ⁹⁸⁹⁄₃₂ Of course it is computationally somewhat more efficient if we consider that for m ≥ n ≥ 0 we also have (aᵐ + bᵐ)(aⁿ + bⁿ) = (aᵐ⁺ⁿ + bᵐ⁺ⁿ) + aⁿbⁿ(aᵐ⁻ⁿ + bᵐ⁻ⁿ) which gives tₘ·tₙ = tₘ₊ₙ + (−¹⁄₂)ⁿ·tₘ₋ₙ and therefore (4) tₘ₊ₙ = tₘ·tₙ − (−¹⁄₂)ⁿ·tₘ₋ₙ Using this we only need t₃, t₅, t₆ as stepping stones to calculate t₁₁. Note that (2) is actually a special case of (4) for m = n since t₀ = a⁰ + b⁰ = 1 + 1 = 2.

    @NadiehFan@NadiehFan11 күн бұрын
    • That would be my chosen method too

      @grchauvet@grchauvet5 күн бұрын
    • Good Job

      @zetutor@zetutor2 күн бұрын
  • When you get a³ + b³, its best to cube them to get a⁹ + b⁹ and then calculate a⁷ + b⁷ by (a³ + b³)² (a+b) Then calc a¹¹ + b¹¹ easily Less calculation required imo

    @devanshgupta794@devanshgupta79425 күн бұрын
  • I have just 1 problem with the video: 989/32 is NOT strictly equal to 30.91. Its equal to 30.90625. And in math problems, you are required to give the exact, not approximated solution. I think you should have just left 989/32. Its fine.

    @glorfindel2740@glorfindel27402 күн бұрын
  • Nice🎉

    @Mecha_Math@Mecha_Math19 күн бұрын
    • Thanks

      @zetutor@zetutor6 күн бұрын
  • 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

    @MateusMuila@MateusMuila15 күн бұрын
  • Is there any other way to do this faster or is this the only way?

    @JeffryBezos-oy3nd@JeffryBezos-oy3nd26 күн бұрын
    • What i found is : a≠b as 2(1/2)^2≠2 (rember this it will be useful later) now, we Will be looking at a possibility for a so as a+b=1, a=1-b now, we solve the second equation by remplacing a by 1-b so (1-b)^2+b^2=2, i'll let you solve that as it would be way to long to solve it here. So you should end up with something like (1± sqrt3)/2. By solving 1-(1± sqrt3)/2, we find that a = (1± sqrt3)/2. As b≠a, one will be - and the other +. Now that we have a and b, we can do the calculus in the end easily. If you need me to clarify tell me because i tried to make it as short as i could but you have the main idea

      @liliancourjal4303@liliancourjal430326 күн бұрын
    • My bad you need a calculator to do my version

      @liliancourjal4303@liliancourjal430326 күн бұрын
    • you can turn the first equation into a = 1-b, then substitue that in the 2nd equation and do the equation and find the result

      @RONNIN667@RONNIN66725 күн бұрын
    • let f_n = a^n + b^n. This forms a 2nd order linear recurrence. (a+b)*f_n = a^(n+1) + b^(n+1) + a*b^n + b*a^n. Hence f_(n+1) = f_n * f_1 - f_(n-1) * (ab). We have f_0 = 2, f_1 = 1, f_2=2 giving (ab)=-1/2 So f_(n+1) = f_n + (1/2) f_(n-1). f_n = {2 1 2 5/2 7/2 19/4 13/2 71/8 97/8 265/16 181/8 989/32 ..} Depending on how fast you can do the arithmetic, this method may be faster.

      @echandler@echandler23 күн бұрын
    • @@RONNIN667 It's not easy. You get b=1+sqrt 3 and a=-sqrt 3 OR b= 1- sqrt3 and a= sqrt 3 Then you have to compute a^11 and b^11 (1+ sqrt 3)^11 yields 12 terms. For example the 8th term is 11*10*9*8*7*6*5*(11^4)*((sqrt 3)^7) / 7! Then collect all the like terms and simplify. Professor Zetutor shows us an easier way.

      @colt4667@colt466723 күн бұрын
  • You can easily find a and b through the first couple equations 😅

    @Ensavoirmoins@Ensavoirmoins24 күн бұрын
    • I tried it and I ended up expanding (1-sqrt 3)^11. It's horrible. I get 12 terms. An example of one is -11*10*9*8*7*6*5*(11^4)*((sqrt 3)^7) / 7!

      @colt4667@colt466723 күн бұрын
    • Good luck with sqrt(3) terms.

      @manpreetkhokhar5318@manpreetkhokhar531822 күн бұрын
    • That’s what I thought, too. Sadly, it doesn’t work.

      @raynixon6767@raynixon676710 күн бұрын
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