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Just finished watching and it came out amazing dude! Glad I was able to contribute in some way. Very cool to see it all come together!
Amazing to have you on my man! Watched so much of your content, definitely had to link up. 👊
@@MMAOnPoint Hi mr on point. Quick question, for the video assignment on ‘ten more houses sold by Al Iaquinta’, do we have to include pictures of the properties or just the house planning sketches of each one? Thanks sir.
Oh shoot delt God!
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The collab I didn’t know I needed but enjoyed thoroughly 💯🤙
It's amazing that people still don't believe that actors do steroids for movies.
It’s amazing thst people think the rock is natty
@@cococock2418or Hemsworth. Pre sure he wants to stop Thor just purely because he’s sick of sacrificing his health for money
Shit!! Tom Cruise is doing everything he can right now. He knows with stem cell and high our life span are about to increase. So why worry now?
When MSM actually did real news. And wasn't an active propogandasts unit.
Add tiger woods to.that list.
This is what investigative journalism used to look like! It is really hard to produce something like this with historical context and implications we see now, have input from current commentators and still keep it entertaining...seriously well done! I would love to see a Tommy Morrison documentary - I am convinced that despite having HIV at age 18 he was able to continue to box and train due to his anabolic steroid routine....only when he stopped did the HIV start taking its toll
@@bbing-99they do lol. There are players that do take them. It’s not talked about as much because everyone thinks you look like a body builder when you take them.
Now they get mad if you question the use of hormones drugs on kids 😂
Because up until the mid 80s, news was actually news. Then the networks said the news divisions had to make money. That's when it started becoming propaganda 😔
@@themidwestrequest-xu9rm Who are they?
@@antoniomiranda8691 rainbow Americans
Funny story. I was probably given steroids as a junior cyclist (we all got shots that we did not know what it was, we were told they were vitamins) but then I got in a big crash, had head trauma and a concussion and either from that or the high dosages of anti-seizure drugs I took for years afterwards, destroyed my pituitary gland and I stopped growing at the age of 15. Now, at 44 yo, I'm finally about to start taking growth hormone, prescribed by my endocrinologist, although I'm fully aware I'm not going to get taller... that ship has passed. :) I'm 5'5" and I should be at least 5'9".
I'm 6'3" without drugs, apparently you should avoid training your shoulders with weights until you reach 18/19 years old. I actually grew 3 inches while playing Basketball.
@@sebastianliwinski222 "apparently you should avoid training your shoulders with weights until you reach 18/19 years old." Where did you get that piece of nonsense at?
It’s been so amazing to watch you guys grow from a small MMA news/top ten channel to a company capable of producing a documentary of AAA quality. Huge props and keep it up!
These deep dive mini docs are the best thing on this channel
@@drunkenmmamaster419 apart from any tommy toe hold video
MMA on point >>>>>>
They are still a top ten channel... but they're trying... and I respect that... I hope they continue to get away from list type of videos.
@@pansnemesis Why tho? I find them fairly entertaining in their on way and they sure as hell research a lot for them too.
In the early 90s, I was on a national cycling team in the commonwealth. Day 1 at 14, I was informed by team Dr's I would be getting what they called Vitamins, injected daily. During tours, the medical van would roll up beside us and we would be injected with what I can only think was some sort of speed. I never pissed hot.
Damn, they (in that case the German National team) told my uncle the same thing when they injected stuff into him. He was also underage at this time. He went on to win a bronze medal at the Olympics in Seoul in 1988 in the 1000m time trial. Of course he was also on PEDs at the time but they didn’t catch him. He only confessed it around the time of the big doping scandals in cycling in the 2000s as he wanted to shine light on the institutionalization of doping.
Woah! I didn’t imagine it happening to athletes that young and without their knowledge of what they’re actually giving you.
That must be a felony.
@@michaelterrell5061 governments do not commit or get charged with felonies. Perhaps someone working for the entity took it into their own hands to commit said felony..but the govt does not condone. That's for normal working citizens.
@@michaelterrell5061 👍😉
1972 Soviet Olympic sprints winner was a beast
Carl Lewis also tested positive in the lead up to the Seoul Olympics. But since he was tested by USOC, his violation was overlooked. The only difference between Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson was that Ben Johnson was on steroids at the olympics and Carl stopped like 4 weeks before the games to avoid detection.
Lies again? Apex Predator Astro Pay
Excellent point.
Ben Johnson got shafted he deserves to honored for his accomplishments including the footnote about steroids.
Lewis was on steroids in that final.Only 1 of the 8 wasnt
@@yyxy.oncesaid2 of the 8. Calvin Smith and the Brazilian bloke. Robson Da Silva is his name I think??
Chael P Sonnen. The P stands for ‘performance de-enhancing drugs’, so he can compete at a fair level compared to his measly opponents 😤
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Wouldn't they just be 'dehancing?'. Sorry to be that guy 😂
😂 good one
Undefeated and undisputed
Dehancing 🗣(dë hârń śińg) - a word that doesn’t exist playa 🫤
No way, MMA On Point blessing us with a full 1 hour documentary ! What did i do to deserve that ! Thank U, respect 💚
The time and effort in making this video was amazing!
Damnnn I didn’t even notice it was one hour! I was really paying attention and enjoying it to notice! 😮
NGL, you sounded like Joe Rogan on the occasion, very informative content. Thanks!
I thought the same thing
@@CodeineAbdulJabbar , very well could be a Jersey accent or nearby lol
Lies again? App Store AVN SaiGon
I thought the same thing. Sounded like a younger Joe Rogan
same deffo wish joe rogan
“There are no solutions, only trade-offs.” -Thomas Sowell
“There are no synonyms, only words with similar definitions that can be used interchangeably”
Based. He could teach the LA favelas a thing or two but thr commies have them captured like candieland
Pleasure to be involved again gents. Huge amount of work from the team. Looking forward to the next one 🤝🙌
I'm sad they didn't mention the biogenesis ledger leak essentially proving certain star athletes and other entertainment figures used a service that provides genetically tailored PEDs.
Me too‼️ Well done‼️ 👏🏾🧠🎯💯👍🏾
You added nothing to this but thanks for trying to suck up some credit, you get zero respect thanks!
MMA On Point does these deep-dives better than they do anything else. Please keep doing these as you can. Good shit.
Correction better than anybody else everything they do js as good as is they put all there effort and can tell they have passion for this it's wild they became the only KZhead channel I watch because mma but after really getting to understand every one of them specifically Jason I have a mad amount of respect for three guys and I think it's dope there fr doing something they love doing❗❗
In 1983 I took the class "Performance Enhancing Drug In Sports ". This was during blood packing , testosterone, HGH , a few year prior to the 86 ban on blood packing ... replaced with EPO. It was among the best classes I took at penn state taught by worlds expert.
Watched this as an "up next" on my TV, can not believe that was an hour long, barely felt longer than 20mins, a testament to how good it was. Really well written, great editing, superbly paced. Great work guys.
I used to be a competitive gymnast throughout the 1990s and instead of bulking up the ideal was to stay thin and as prepubescent as possible. I, and a few other girls used ephedra to keep our weight down while keeping our energy and endurance going through the long training hours which at that time was 6-8 hours. Mind you I was 12 when I began this training regimen.
Thank you for sharing your medical history as well.
gymnastics is also a field that often flies under the radar in terms of doping
you're on steroids
Can’t say I’m surprised! Thank you for sharing
I am surprised you was basically doping at 12
*"Everybody's on steroids."* _-Diaz Bros_
Including the Diaz brothers....
Watching the Seoul Olympics and all those athletes like Jackie Joyner-Kersee and Florence Griffith Joiner with their out of the world physique you could tell Ben Johnson wasn't alone.
Every single top athlete at the Seoul Olympics was taking PEDs without exception and anyone who believes otherwise is really naive. However, I believe they should be allowed to and do away with all the hypocrisy.
The editor who kept the background "music" was on steroids.
I used to be highly sceptical when it comes to taking steroids, but this awesome video convinced me - I’ll give it a try!
Lol if you do just dont be dumb nothing is free in this world one way or the other you always have to pay one day
same here. all my heroes are on drugs. that means i will be too :D
I wanna do DehBall cuz i iz skinny white boy who want body hair and big muscles so gurls like me. How many steroids of DehBols do i need to take? Does needle hurt? Does it go in my butt? Strids are like a vitaman but in a needle right? What if I just want boost my manhood cuz cant grow beard or body hair and just want to be manman. Can i buy from the nice man behind Lowe’s who talks to himself? Can my Head Hair move to my face hair if i strid up on dehbens? I have lot extra head hair to spare mare
@@seriouscashi think we’re on the same page champ
Reach your genetic potential naturally first then blast away 😂
I'm so glad you collaborated with Derrick because he does such great comprehensive work learning about endocrinology and the related effects of these systems in our bodies.
Im not an MMA fan by any means, but I am a curious girl who will watch a good documentary on just about any subject. You definitely earned a new subscriber with this doc, and I hope you continue to make more great documentaries like this. It’s clear that you put a ton of work into this video. 👍🏽
I'm a very curious man and I love a good documentary as well. Here's to learning new things. I hope you have a beautiful day sweetheart
I had 20 guys in just my class that were on some form of steroid or HGH so honestly can’t blame Congress for caring so much.
MMAOP partnering with Derek MPMD is a match made in friggin heaven
best doc I've seen about the subject since Bigger, Faster, Stronger...well done lads
There was such an epidemic of doping in cycling that you could literally name the ones who weren't doing anything, that's how rare they were... Christophe Bassons, Gilles Delion, Graeme Obree.
The idea of weighing in right before the fight isn't that people would fight dehydrated -it would soon become apparent that is not a viable option and people would go into the fight at the weight which is most suitable for them. It's the fact that they have a 24hr period to "put on" (regain) weight, that drives them to such ridiculous dehydration measures.
They're not "making" weight, they're pretending that they weigh less than they do.
Yes, love the journalism! Keep it up. We'll keep watching
Fantastic work dude, these long form documentary style videos have been absolutely incredible 👍🏻
Is there other ones?
you're on steroids@@HotStepper222
you're on steroids
I love how the American government and police associations have conpletely gone quiet on steroids
I know several police officers locally who take steroids.
Being desperate, wanting to impress others, be successful, make money, dominate the competition, or watch ever increasing sports records is a strong driver. No stopping any time soon - acceleration is a far more likely outcome.
The biggest motivator is wanting to recover quickly and not wanting the feeling the pain
@@Pol-xu4on Good point! 👍
Jason, I’ve been waiting to write this comment until you hosted a video. It’s been a while! I met you in the line for UFC Pre-Fight Press Conference, I got excited and simply shouted “At, MMA On Point!” and you responded with “Hey! What’s up man?” I was under the impression that you wouldn’t want to have a chat with a fan so I just left it there. But in hindsight I noticed your enthusiasm and I regret not having a conversation! Just wanted to say that I really love all the work you guys put out, I think the channel is such a great staple of the MMA community. Looking forward to this video!
What card was it? And yeah dude! Love hanging with people during events!
@MMAOnPoint ah I should have mentioned, it was at 286 a couple of months ago!
Bud Selig is in the Hall of Fame…but the players who took substances that weren’t on the Banned list and who’s performances made baseball under his tenure explode in popularity, they don’t get the same level of appreciation. They’re denied the Plaque in Cooperstown
🆙☝️You can always order from him, he's legit & reliable,he's got em magic shrooms,LSD,DMT and many more.
Just wanna take a minute and say how genuinely happy it makes me to see 2 channels like yours working together. I totally understand that this is a business but if all channels worked together like you guys did on this documentary, instead of just trying to gain more followers and views and having the quality of your work be the emphasis. I can only lay imagine what great Docs would be made. Thanks again!! And keep graining hard.
The mushroom thing is real. At a low-medium dose, it obliterates all mental blocks. Puts you right into a flow state.
I started watching this video not realizing it was 1 hour long and before i new it i finished the video. Strong work .
I've a mma fan for 15+ years. But these recent documentaries have been the best mma (yes this one is way more broad then just mma) media that has come out. Keep these up please, doing an amazing job as a team
Gosh, I'd forgotten all about the Lewis/Johnson controversy. It was such a big part of my childhood, even here in Australia. Thanks for this doco, you've done a great job
I remember Johnson winning and getting DQ'd. Then Lewis complaining about Johnson's doping. But I don't remember seeing Lewis getting caught. Was it covered up at all?
@micky2549 There was an article in SI just before the '84 Summer Olympics. In the article, it was reported that Lewis refused to be tested by Olympic officials in what is a common occurrence of "spot testing" when they show up unannounced at training sessions. It's been a while since I've read the article but I believe that the reporter wrote that the USOC alibied Lewis, or as you put it "covered" for him, but according to the international rules, any athlete that refuses to be tested is disqualified from participating in the Olympics... PERIOD Sports Illustrated has an archive on their website, you can find it rather easily from what I remember and see for yourself.
@@kidmack3556 Lewis was protected for years
Ben Johnson was the fastest man in the world. He already had natural speed, the drugs was to increase his speed endurance. Not for muscle mass like Ronnie Coleman and the Ultimate Warrior, batting power like Barry Bonds and Mark Maguire, or pure esthetics like Hulk Hogan. Ben was a sprinter
@@micky2549Yes. The media edited or omitted stuff to paint a narrative. Ben used as a sacrificial lamb. They were all on dope except for maybe two dudes. The losers.
This was so well done, I will be watching again. Thanks for this. I have never wanted to take drugs, but can certainly understand why people do in the name of competition. Being the best, or top tier is a drug in itself, a drug so powerful we will do what we have to to keep that high.
How do you get high of HGH? Or if your test levels are below the normal range? For the average person over 40 HGH and TRT can have a dramastic improvement on your health, sense of well being provided under supervision of a knowledge doctor and frequent blood tests. At least as for myself....
I always knew that this channel is good! But holyshit you guys THIS IS NEXT LEVEL!
I swear MPMD is on other peoples channels more than he's on his own these days 😂 The guys the fount of all steroid knowledge 😅
Damn dyslexia, I was intrigued as to Eric Sermon's involvement in a steroid documentary. Oh.... You mean Derek, not Eric.
We’ll start seeing him on cat react videos by the end of the year. Mark my words
this documentary is amazing!! great work my friend, new subscriber from italy
These last few months all the documentary videos have been nothing short of amazing! I look forward to these videos more then the normal countdown videos. Guys keep this up this is top tier content!!!!! I love it!
you're on steroids
As the great Stockton Philosopher Nathan Diaz once said " Everybody's on steroids "
I had a Great Uncle by the name of Alvin Roy, he served in the US Army in World War II in the European theatre. He saw what the Germans were using and noticed that it helped with the breaking down of muscles and rejuvenating them more quickly. He brought it back to the states and started administering them to the weightlifting team in the Melbourne Olympics which he was a coach on. Afterwards, he worked with the LSU football team helping them win the 1958 National Championship and then started working for the Los Angeles Chargers of the AFL introducing steroids to the players then.
One of your BEST ever videos - excellent work and well researched and explained.
Outstanding objective and high quality content, this has to be one of the best documentary on youtube about this subject. Glad to see you guys growing the channel in such a way. Awesome job.
I’m a diehard fan of this channel and the content you produce never disappoints. This video and subject matter is no different. I enjoy and prefer the longer videos and I’m sure I’m not alone in that opinion, this checks a lot of boxes.
Absolutely great video! Love these long form docs from you guys
Excellent Excellent documentary.....we used to get these quality documentaries by PBS and BBC in 80s and 90s but don't see so much anymore
We're trying to give you guys content that's different! Glad you're enjoying it mate.
This is exceptional. I hope you continue to cover such issues and the wide scope of the ramifications. I have always been curious. Well done!
The content on the channel is just getting better and better. Keep up the great work guys, you deserve all the success you get!
Brilliant collab on a huge subject well done mma on point and mpmd, luke thomas etc obvious contributions Keep growing Hope this does huge numbers for you guys You deserve it
This was so good! Great video thank you!
Great video, thanks Jason, Luke, everyone else who contributed to the video and was interviewed, etc. The list videos are good entertainment, but this style of video is informative, interesting, and helps me feel like I understand a rather deep topic a little bit better. Keep 'em coming, you all rock
Damn that that little bit about guys in high school blowing up and then you ask them what they've been doing and they say, I'm taking creatine. I've had that exact experience and honestly until now I didn't even think of the fact that that kid was probably on steroids.
Carl Lewis was later tested for the same race later on when testing became more profound. The lab guy kept his samples and supported that Carl too was on a designer drug of that era.
I’d say all 8 in Olympic final were on something.
They're STILL on something. Nobody runs that fast without help. Even Bolt. He just never got caught..
@@stevemann1299 exactly ! As a pro bodybuilder. Im juiced to the gills .
One of the highest quality documentaries I’ve seen. Vice meets Nat Geo meets Frontline. Well done.
I’ve got to say I absolutely love content like this from you guys showing that you guys are way more than just a lists channel, I’ve learned so much from videos like this on the channel and it gives me an incredible insight into something which otherwise I might not have known about. Keep it up and thanks for the great content.
Jason, you are a legend in the making man.
The question is, how many times athletes got busted for drugs, but results were hidden because of powerful sponsors like nike?
Cincinnati My home i love... /i was at that game in Cinergy Field when mcguire knocked it out you featured in this video thank you for bringing back the memory
Solid Content. Love the long documentary format, y'all nailed it
This channel just stepped it up, great video
Truly impressive work, been a very long time follower of this channel
You’ve one yourself one more follower! Wonderful job on this doc!!
I love when you guys do these deep dive videos. Flexin all the knowledge and it’s awesome to see 👌🏻
Loved this. The in depth look at such a taboo subject for sports was great and the story telling really draws you in. Great stuff!
I think the MMA world is very similar in their unwritten policy concerning PEDS as the WWE and that’s “We love the results you’re getting in the ring and you’re putting a lot of asses in the arena and on PPV but if you get caught we don’t know you.” Im just guessing but it’s not difficult to see the telltale signs of abuse if you’ve ever been there yourself.
Yea you're wrong
I grew up 30 minutes from York and would pass that gym every time we had an ice hockey game out that way…never knew this and it blew my mind a little bit
It's cool that you tackled a sports issue in General that also impacts combat sports. Great video idea
As a lover of mma, a lover of early 2000’s baseball, someone who’s from Jose Canceco’s hometown of Hialeah (Miami), and a guy who played against (and with) a lot of the guys named in the biogenesis scandal in Miami I fucking loved this!! Big shoutout to Derek too! Great job Jason!
That said… I’m waiting to see if Papa Joe’s living well after awhile and then doing an anti-Vitor’s dose of TRT when I’m done having kiddos in the next 10 years when I’m 40.
Fantastic doco mate. Absolutely fascinating
This was an amazing episode. Please keep them coming!!
Always when I’m on lunch or break you guys drop a video for me to enjoy while I relax for 30 mins
Really enjoyed the hell out of this mini documentary that y’all put together I found it incredibly informative and entertaining. Keep up the good work you guys.
Dude I love the editing so much holy cow. great video
Can only imagine that work that went into this. Thanks 🤟🏾✌🏾
This is going to reach a such more broad audience. And if this is a hint as for what's to come from this channel...I can't wait. Keep up the INCREDIBLE work
This makes 'Bigger, Stronger, Faster' seem like a college production. Amazing work. 🙌
I don't even watch MMA but found this to be a great and really informative documentary/ commentary
This is such a gem of a video! So incredibly well produced and edited, I know these usually doesn't do as well as a lot of other content. But as an avid viewer of you guys this is some of the best work you have done!
It is disgusting how many organisations and teams who turn there eyes to the side KNOWING there athletes are taking illegal substances. The NBA, MLB, NFL, Boxing bodies etc-etc. it is so obvious with many athletes it is frightning how they are allowed to go on competing and recieveing tons of money doing so. How many athletes have grewn a wider jaw, loss of hair, wider shoulders etc and covering them up. The jaw thing with a full beard is common for example.
“It doesn’t make you hit the ball better” Ok, but it absolutely helps your fielding ability
What a well put together video. Research must have been tedious and edit footage hard to get at times. Well done!
yo, Jason... NO ONE could've delivered such a story with such strength & knowledge behind it. Much appreciated brother.
get off the steroids ya sambo
I like these documentary style videos a lot. Keep on with the good work
This was super well done! More of this please!
That’s when baseball was good, slammin home runs and breaking bats. Loved it lol.
This is the first video I've watched from your channel! Good stuff!
This is Fire please make more Videos like this or in this format
Great video for a Sunday, thanks for putting the time and effort into this
Not a huge sports guy (I played a bit but don't watch), but this was goddamn excellent. One of the best docs i have seen on the subject. Seriously just wanted to say great job to host and crew.
You need more videos like this! (Documentary kinda sort of deal) Great work brother!
The longer, more investigative videos are definitely top content on this channel. This was an amazing watch!
Thanks :)
@@maddawgzzzz huh?
@@MH-ls8mg you’re welcome man. Np. Don’t over think it.
Please do video essays like this more!
You guys are really pushing the high quality content here guys. Well done
Quality??? Mma on point is about quantity
Sick ass mini doc homie. Gracias 💯
Please keep doing these long form docs, both MMA and sports more widely. I know they take more work & time and may not be getting the same views as the top 10s but they're great and hopefully start to get the #s they deserve.