5 Signs You've Been Mentally Abused

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There is no easy way to talk about mental abuse, but it's important that you know what to look for if you are considering or experiencing it.
Mental abuse is meant to undermine your self-esteem and make you feel worse about yourself. It is also a form of manipulation and control. The effects of mental abuse are just as detrimental as the effects of physical abuse.
This video is designed to help you identify whether or not you may have been mentally abused and to provide resources to help you start moving on from the abuse.
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Writer: Max Feng
Editor: Brie Villanueva
Script Manager: Kelly Soong
Voice Over: Amanda Silvera ( / amandasilvera )
Animator: Gabriele Garcia
Post Production & Sound Design: Gower Sun ( / @midnightcitymusic )
KZhead Manager: Cindy Cheong
References:
Karakurt, G., & Silver, K. E. (2013). Emotional abuse in intimate relationships: the role of gender and age. Violence and Victims, 28(5), 804-821. doi.org/10.1891/0886-6708.vv-d-12-00041
Grimm, S., Wirth, K., Fan, Y., Weigand, A., Gärtner, M., Feeser, M., Dziobek, I., Bajbouj, M., & Aust, S. (2017). The interaction of corticotropin-releasing hormone receptor gene and early life stress on emotional empathy. Behavioral brain research, 329, 180-185.
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Matthews, A. (2019, September 4). The Effects of Emotional Abuse. Psychology Today. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/traversing-the-inner-terrain/201909/the-effects-emotional-abuse

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  • 1. Suicidal thoughts 2. Low self-esteem 3. Gaslighting 4. Trust issues 5. Anger issues 6. Feel empathy too much

    @pistemutaagio@pistemutaagio Жыл бұрын
    • That me! Yay!

      @truckingwithgearheads3190@truckingwithgearheads319011 ай бұрын
    • Yeah same.. although there's one that's the opposite of me. I have lack of empathy cause whenever there's a problem, I just stay quiet even though I feel sorry. They say " You think it's a joke? Say something! Don't just stand there and say nothing" that really hurts...

      @Itz_KasukiStar@Itz_KasukiStar11 ай бұрын
    • You're describing me

      @bubbba7247@bubbba724711 ай бұрын
    • I’m questioning if my sister is mentally abusive, I don’t have all these symptoms. 2, 4 and 5 I definitely have, and I cannot be near her without thinking she’ll hurt me in some way. She hasn’t always been like this, so at least I do recognize when she’s being too controlling (which is always). She never listens to me, and I already have very little friends, so my self esteem has plummeted. I just wish I could get away from her.

      @CreativeCats-qy6yc@CreativeCats-qy6yc11 ай бұрын
    • @@CreativeCats-qy6yc Have you tried telling your parents? They could help.

      @Helluva_Gal@Helluva_Gal11 ай бұрын
  • “Those exposed to mental abuse in their childhood may accept abusive behavior as something normal” That hit me DEEP in my heart

    @kristoferleobaisac5631@kristoferleobaisac563111 ай бұрын
    • Have you been exposed to mental abuse in your childhood?

      @samzzy5@samzzy58 ай бұрын
    • It's like a snowball rolling down a hill. The parents carry it on and on, but somewhere, someone has to snap it. They have to let the snow boulder hit a wall and break into pieces. It sucks to be that one, but their kids will be blessed

      @david-chadsvenson6960@david-chadsvenson69608 ай бұрын
    • @@david-chadsvenson6960I hope to be that one, I will never have children. I feel like I’m already messed up, and I hope that no one else gets hurt because of me.

      @BeixuanSun-cg7nh@BeixuanSun-cg7nh8 ай бұрын
    • @@BeixuanSun-cg7nh I can understand the fear of having children, but breaking the cycle isn't just about ending the chain. It's about breaking the link to the past by setting boundaries for your behavior so that you can help build a better future. Whether you have kids naturally, or through adoption, or even just unofficially as a mentor and guide, we need to pour into future generations once we've put in the work on ourselves. I hope you can work through your own pain as I've been working through mine and come to a place of reversing it.

      @david-chadsvenson6960@david-chadsvenson69608 ай бұрын
    • @@david-chadsvenson6960 Thank you so much. My day was made by a random stranger.

      @BeixuanSun-cg7nh@BeixuanSun-cg7nh8 ай бұрын
  • My "friend " she is not any more was physically abused, whenever I tried to vent about being emotionally abused she would say"thats not real abuse it doesn't count " which caused me to not ask for help for 15 years. Thank you for having your videos. I have cried while watching you, and your voice is now so comforting.

    @UrL0cal_Butters@UrL0cal_Butters10 ай бұрын
    • Get well soon bud! I am sure you will!

      @thatoneguy-ri3sb@thatoneguy-ri3sb2 ай бұрын
    • Your friend has no right to say that, should have told her to quit the b's and do some research, emotionally abuse always lives with you until you can get the help if you need it.

      @Macmillerfan82-92@Macmillerfan82-92Ай бұрын
  • I think the worst part of everything we had to endure is hearing my mother deny outloud and to people who were there and witnessed plenty, that she didn't abuse us. She says she would get angry and yell a lot but she never really hurt us. That hurts more than every other thing put together. I think she truly believes it. The mental abuse still affects me every day of my life

    @bubbba7247@bubbba724711 ай бұрын
    • My mother doesn’t even admit she gets angry. She just says “annoyed or maybe stressed”. She says the most hurtful things and never apologizes. She once threatened to buzz of all of my hair to make me ugly because I did my math homework later than usual in elementary. When I broke down crying and ran to my room, she’d yelled at me some more. I’ve never forgiven her for that because she’s never apologized. She turned on the razor and everything…

      @HelloKitty-iq8tt@HelloKitty-iq8tt10 ай бұрын
    • (Air hug)😢

      @janeentumbao8690@janeentumbao869010 ай бұрын
    • ​@@HelloKitty-iq8tt (Air hug)

      @janeentumbao8690@janeentumbao869010 ай бұрын
    • I feel like it’s always the mothers or am I wrong

      @user-js8ws6et6d@user-js8ws6et6d10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@user-js8ws6et6dwrong ! Both my parents were abusive both mentally and physically. Baggage I carry will never go away.

      @tucky2297@tucky229710 ай бұрын
  • Being mentally abused is really hard to come in to terms with, I keep questioning myself and asking myself " but was I really abused though...?" It doesn't leave a mark like physical abuse, so identifying it can be extermely hard...

    @Julia-dj7kp@Julia-dj7kp Жыл бұрын
    • Sorry to read that you went to that 😔 and I hope you can some kind of peace with knowing that what happened to you wasn't your fault and doesn't make you less of a human. 💜Unfortunately, and contrary to popular believe, physical abuse often doesn't leave a mark either. Abusers know damn well what they do and often try to hide it ... 😕

      @jenna_n_goodwell_art@jenna_n_goodwell_art Жыл бұрын
    • I like to love my people all the same… love is unconditional! I hurt no one!

      @sheilameyers152@sheilameyers152 Жыл бұрын
    • @@sheilameyers152 love SHOULD be unconditional, yet wisely chosen. I'm going to put this on my favorites because my comment notifications are messed up. But I'm here for you, and not to hurt you. I hurt no one neither.

      @ghostwriter1415@ghostwriter1415 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jenna_n_goodwell_art 💛💛

      @Julia-dj7kp@Julia-dj7kp Жыл бұрын
    • @@ghostwriter1415 it should be💛

      @Julia-dj7kp@Julia-dj7kp Жыл бұрын
  • When I did my training for child protection ,I was surprised to learn that neglect and emotional neglect was considered worse than physical abuse .

    @barbaraallen435@barbaraallen435 Жыл бұрын
    • Do u mind explaining why it’s worse?

      @Slut4NoOne@Slut4NoOne10 ай бұрын
    • I think that’s untrue and ignorant. abuse is different for everyone and everyone perceives it differently. NEITHER is worse than the other.

      @laurenboisvert7598@laurenboisvert759810 ай бұрын
    • @@laurenboisvert7598She meabs within CPS

      @dianaprince3176@dianaprince317610 ай бұрын
    • Coming from both types of abuse in childhood and my past now I’m back in therapy I’m 38 now I have little to no memory of most of the physical abuse but the emotional and psychological abuse never left me I still struggle to heal from the trauma not from physical abuse but the mental emotional abuse as damaged me far worse ❤

      @NaStashaLeBlanc@NaStashaLeBlanc9 ай бұрын
    • I don't really know much about physical abuse in terms of mental consequences, but i do know that mental abuse does a sh*t ton of damage on you and the people around you. No doubt physical abuse does too, but the other's consequences seem more talked about

      @user-sg4ov7ng4h@user-sg4ov7ng4h9 ай бұрын
  • What's also hard with mental abuse is that many people will say "This isn't a real problem, unlike physical/sexual abuse, being threatened to death and so on. This video hit me hard and made me realise how even bigger of an impact the mental abuse I experienced has. Luckily, my parents are good, but strangers who "entered the family" aren't.

    @Bromvolod@Bromvolod11 ай бұрын
  • Constant feeling of guilt. Feeling lonely or unloved. Hard time accepting help from others. Not knowing who you really are when you escape. Never being good enough. Disordered attachment…

    @mmolago@mmolago11 ай бұрын
  • "The scars from mental cruelty can be as deep and long-lasting as wounds from punches or slaps but are often not as obvious. In fact, even among women who have experienced violence from a partner, half or more report that the man’s emotional abuse is what is causing them the greatest harm.” ― Lundy Bancroft

    @trinaq@trinaq Жыл бұрын
    • There is an anonymous saying: “It’s not happiness that brings us gratitude. It’s gratitude that brings us happiness.“ If you look around yourself right now (or look within) listen for a surge of gratitude. Or even a little trickle. Breathe in. Let your shoulders drop as you exhale. When it comes to you, note it here.

      @funnytv-1631@funnytv-1631 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes I have experienced mental abuse in my childhood. I know the feeling

      @shonamoni569@shonamoni569 Жыл бұрын
    • I wanna date but I am scared that the woman will suffer due to me.

      @SnowflakeSheepGF_YT@SnowflakeSheepGF_YT Жыл бұрын
    • @@shonamoni569 I am also indian.

      @SnowflakeSheepGF_YT@SnowflakeSheepGF_YT Жыл бұрын
    • Works both ways. My sister always tattle tailed on me all the time just so I can get beaten severly with a razor strap by my mother who always sided with my sister all the time.

      @danbasta3677@danbasta3677 Жыл бұрын
  • “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.“ What people tend to forget is that words can be sharper than any blade you could imagine, and easily slice you to pieces. As someone currently struggling with a mentally and verbally abusive mother, I often make it a point to help people understand that.

    @randombee9169@randombee9169 Жыл бұрын
    • It's so very, very true. Your thing about words CAN hurt I mean, not the "sticks and stones".

      @balanc-joy9187@balanc-joy9187 Жыл бұрын
    • I no longer struggle from my abusive SWEARING mother because I no longer communicate or interact with her; and what a relief it has been. I visit my father and talk to him, but I refuse to talk to my "mother".....she didn't behave like a normal mother. Here is one example: For many years, she never said, "hello" to me when I came into the house. Her back was always turned towards me while she watched t.v.. This is the silent treatment, and this was the mental abuse I had to endure. Also, there were countless times profanity exploded from her mouth. My relatives don't know (or hear) what happens behind closed doors and I have alienated myself from them. I have already planned NOT to attend her funeral when she's gone !!

      @dimar7641@dimar7641 Жыл бұрын
    • Words can only hurt you if you let them is the point of that whole saying, if you refuse to let what other people say about you hurt you then it can't.

      @FelineVillain@FelineVillain Жыл бұрын
    • @@FelineVillain No, it’s a extremely shortsighted “saying” and to lay the responsibility of it on the victim’s shoulders is wrong. It doesn’t deserve to be treated as a “normalized” statement in any way. Listen to what you are trying to say…. I guess I didn’t have enough fortitude as a 5 year old kid, LMAO!!! 😂😢😂

      @JohnDoe-lb4nc@JohnDoe-lb4nc Жыл бұрын
    • @@JohnDoe-lb4nc The only person responsible for how you feel is you so yes the blame is 100% on the "victim". And yea you might just be a weak person this is perfectly possible.

      @FelineVillain@FelineVillain Жыл бұрын
  • I've had an older brother spend the first 20 years of my life putting me down, ridiculing my physical defects and anything I showed interest in. I'm now 52, and have no idea what self esteem or confidence feel like, with the mammoth task of building both from scratch.

    @riffmagos@riffmagos7 ай бұрын
  • I've known for awhile that I was a victim of mental abuse as a teenager but it's not until recently where I've finally begun to come to terms with it and move forward. It's hard but I know it's possible.

    @danielthedude@danielthedude11 ай бұрын
  • As a person who was mentally abused: you are not alone and you will get through this. You are so incredibly strong ❤

    @maggiejane2192@maggiejane2192 Жыл бұрын
    • This is a message people need to hear and know that they aren't alone.

      @Psych2go@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
    • Also as a person who was mentally abused, I know what it's like to wish you *never had to be incredibly strong*. I got that way because I had to. I sure didn't want to and wouldn't wish my path on my worst enemy. The struggle never ends. Sorry. But the weight does get easier to carry.

      @rikitikitavatiki@rikitikitavatiki Жыл бұрын
    • I am to a person who has been mentally abused: thank you so much

      @kenzxedits@kenzxedits Жыл бұрын
    • @@rikitikitavatiki I know and I completely understand. But you’re still here and we are grateful for you 🤍

      @maggiejane2192@maggiejane2192 Жыл бұрын
    • I appreciate it but you are alone who you gonna turn to when nobody cares to listen

      @keiron.4612@keiron.4612 Жыл бұрын
  • I think, another symptom of having been emotionally abused, manipulated, or gaslighted, is being able to do it yourself. When you’re around someone who is constantly doing this to you, you’re bound to learn exactly how it’s done and how they do it. Or is that just me? Idk, but that’s what happened to me.

    @damnthisisalongname_4764@damnthisisalongname_4764 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, you get a gut feeling and can sense it. I learned from family who were gaslighting me at young age but now I can sense it from other people who are gaslighting. American society functions by gaslighting from your workplace to shopping in the store, I have been able to sense when I am being gaslighted. Its purpose is so you can sicken yourself and become mentally ill so that they can gloat at how they were able to achieve it. American society is psychotic as gaslighting is common.

      @jacqueslee2592@jacqueslee2592 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah for sure I usually see through all the manipulation tactics people use

      @sebastianbudz3109@sebastianbudz310911 ай бұрын
    • 😮😮😮

      @dasiagraves1050@dasiagraves105011 ай бұрын
    • I finally realized that even if the abuser is gone, their "work" can continue for a long time to come.

      @cc1k435@cc1k43511 ай бұрын
    • Holy shit this is the most likes I’ve gotten lmao, I think? Idk I commented this on my phone on the web version so I couldn’t see notifs

      @damnthisisalongname_4764@damnthisisalongname_476410 ай бұрын
  • To everyone here who can relate, I love you guys ❤ you are all strong and eventually we'll be okay one day. This shit's really hard to deal with but we're even harder to break!! Stay strong!

    @kat6695@kat66954 ай бұрын
    • Thank you so much. And love you to 🥹

      @CindyK@CindyK2 ай бұрын
  • As kids- We loved heroes. As adults- we understand villains..

    @St4rgxrlll@St4rgxrlll10 ай бұрын
  • I just finished watching the video with tears in my eyes. That's so hard to build up self confidence when you feel you're a burden to everyone around you 😢

    @emersondecastromorais3724@emersondecastromorais3724 Жыл бұрын
    • Same I’m crying too

      @Bandit1124@Bandit112410 ай бұрын
    • Same. I not only feel like a burden to others but I feel like I don’t deserve anything 😢

      @asian.draper6324@asian.draper632410 ай бұрын
    • I know that feeling. I'm nearly 60 years old, no children, never been married. I've tried to isolate myself as much as possible, my biggest fear in life, is being a burden on anyone. I've had many relationships in my past, all ended badly. Around 20 years ago I decided I was done trying to fit in a world that never wanted to fit me in. Now I feel like I'm used up, all alone, just waiting for the end.

      @steelheadstalker@steelheadstalker10 ай бұрын
    • We all need others, and others need us. We were meant to live in a community, not isolated. Although it's often not easy at all. I know it's not the popular answer or opinion, but the one thing that has kept my self esteem, worth and confidence intact, despite currently living in an abusive situation I have no power to leave, is God. I don't know how I'm still sane and in one piece. It truly is a miracle. He's my safe space, my comfort, and always tells me the truth about myself, and counteracts others words and lies about me. When no one else loves me, He still loves me, when I'm isolated I'm not alone, he's always there. He always forgives me and doesn't expect me to be perfect, and reminds me of my worth when I'm being harsh to myself. I could go on and on, but the reason I say this, is because I couldn't survive without God, and I feel for anyone who is being, or has been abused, and having to tough it out on their own. God loves you, and He wants to comfort, love and protect you if you'll let him. Sending everyone here a huge hug ❤

      @katyb2793@katyb279310 ай бұрын
    • ​@@steelheadstalkeri hope u feel better this broke my heart :< its never too late!! rooting for you! u are worthy of love!

      @hocuspocus9554@hocuspocus95549 ай бұрын
  • Let's not forget that childhood bullying is also a form of mental abuse. I endured a lot of bullying in school when I was young and I still have mental scars from it over 30 years later. Most of my relationships were marked by me bending over backwards and doing whatever I had to do in order to make my partner happy and like me, even if it meant pretending to be someone or something I wasn't. Luckily, however, I am now with someone who loves the real me and I no longer have to do all those mental gymnastics.

    @Lambodera@Lambodera Жыл бұрын
    • I was bullied very badly too as a child due to a medical difference. It's strange that most people don't think of childhood bullying as emotional and mental abuse, but it is. Bullies do the same thing as adult abusers but I was told as a child "boys will be boys" and it was dismissed as if it was nothing. I was also almost killed by a bully in kindergarten when she choked me in the bathroom and I almost passed out.

      @sharonamberbennett4725@sharonamberbennett4725 Жыл бұрын
    • This bullies in school destroyed my entire life ... untill today i cant feel anything for people in a romantic way. I care for friends and people i like. But wont understand the concept of romance, love and having a relationship

      @obsidianwing@obsidianwing Жыл бұрын
    • Ah this reminds me of the time in high school when I was so desperate to make friends I joined the bullies (I've been bullied for most of my school life). For better or worse now I don't even care about having friends at all, they'll inevitably be a disappointment anyway

      @furiousdestroyah9999@furiousdestroyah9999 Жыл бұрын
    • That's a you problem. Time to grow up.

      @naelyneurkopfen9741@naelyneurkopfen9741 Жыл бұрын
    • @@obsidianwing you allowed that. You chose to be *ruined".

      @naelyneurkopfen9741@naelyneurkopfen9741 Жыл бұрын
  • Spot on 💯, let’s say I had a less than perfect childhood. So I resonate with this for sure. Headaches and stomach issues are also a common sign. I have recently decided to open up and vlog about my childhood experiences in the future. I was targeted by different adults in various places in my childhood who were unhappy and unhealed themselves, and I ended up absorbing them in a way that it was hard to deprogram myself for a while. You also feel like you have no safe place and find yourself retreating. I used to be fortunate to have a creek in my backyard growing up. So I would go there to meditate. Because this kind of abuse fries the nervous system in people without a doubt. It’s amazing how much the mind and body are connected.

    @ArtsyAries23@ArtsyAries2310 ай бұрын
  • As someone who was and still is being mentally abused by parents, it is very hard. Another affect I have is the inability to stand up for myself or say what I’m really thinking, also making it very hard to talk to my parents or point out their abuse. I have chronic anxiety and occasionally have derealisation episodes doe to stress, as well as back and hip pain (didn’t realize that was linked to the abuse, but explains a lot). I match all of these, but the first step is realizing it’s abusive so I know what to avoid. This video explained a lot, thank you so much.

    @_Grave_Rave_@_Grave_Rave_10 ай бұрын
  • Dissociation is huge with mental abuse. Its like you feel separated, like you get stuck between knowing what's right and allowing stuff to happen, so we can like zone out really bad or not pay attention while someone is mentally abusing someone.

    @Kaiyakaylah@Kaiyakaylah Жыл бұрын
    • Dissociation is hard to come back from, especially when you're still in the abusive situation. Why come back to reality when it's so unpleasant? Thanks for adding this one, it's a biggie. 😊

      @russellcollins4291@russellcollins4291 Жыл бұрын
    • No wonder I feel a heavy sadness after hyper fixating on a fantasy book or a show. It’s like coming down from a high and thinking, “this is reality”.

      @vrockchick89@vrockchick898 ай бұрын
    • ​😅😅😭

      @user-zi5es9mp3s@user-zi5es9mp3sАй бұрын
  • I'm a survivor of mental, emotional, and to a degree, physical abuse, but I still feel myself questioning "Was I _really_ abused?" because the physical aspect was the least prevalent of it. It really sucks to feel so insecure about my trauma some days. Thank you so much for this video, it's very important that people know that just because abuse might not be physical, doesn't mean it isn't still abuse, you're doing amazing work.

    @anhedonicauthor@anhedonicauthor Жыл бұрын
    • I think I know what you mean. I am aware I know I was abused. But I feel such resistance admitting it that it makes me question whether I actually think it's true. Lately I've been trying to admit to myself how bad it actually really was, Have always felt shame and guilty thinking of my parents in any negative way. I still love them, I still care about them, They still neglected and abused me though. It's a whole mass of conflicting emotions and feelings. Especially as I was numb to a lot of it going through.

      @wimsylogic65@wimsylogic65 Жыл бұрын
    • My current employer sent me on a course about childhood trauma and abuse a couple of years before covid, and it focused on the physical/sexual aspects of abuse, with not a word said about emotional abuse. It's often overlooked, even by so-called experts.

      @dexine4723@dexine4723 Жыл бұрын
    • This is called cognitive dissonance I used to have it with my abusers but now I just have it with other random ppl I'm being codependent to or have limerance with. I've seen that the cognitive dissonance can come from alters like the inner child in denial. Ppl will sometimes dissociate then another voice will say "no that's not what happened my parents will never do that".

      @abuseevidenceresighted9071@abuseevidenceresighted9071 Жыл бұрын
    • Sounds like what I say to myself because I’m emotionally and verbally abused was I really abused

      @galaxy_mooncat779@galaxy_mooncat779 Жыл бұрын
    • Doesn't help also that mental health issues are, to this day in this very 2023, stigmatized, does it?

      @vonsopas@vonsopas Жыл бұрын
  • I feel like another sign of mental abuse is having abandonment issues. Now I'm not quite sure, but from experience, I can tell that my whole childhood I had been the left out one and this has probably pulled me to having this issue in the later years. Having abandonment issues just sucks.

    @a.vet_sandwich__.ceeesalad@a.vet_sandwich__.ceeesalad11 ай бұрын
  • 3:04, I'm like that as well, unfortunately. I like to stay indoors because I feel safe and I feel like if I go out there is a possibility that someone l might try to mess with me in a negative way or grab my attention. I also don't like seeing certain things such as certain people on pavements and all that, especially if they shouldn't be there. I don't like feeling powerless and I have had times when people felt like they could do that they want with me out and about such as try to make fun of me, mess around with me like a toy and basically just being there for their amusement. In short, I like to stay indoors to avoid people in general. Unfortunately, the internet, most of the time, isn't better regarding people. I have been trying to g out more often, but that's only to get exercise and such.

    @unknowncompany948@unknowncompany94811 ай бұрын
  • I have found that the mental abuse far surpasses and outlasts the physical. I've had both and it seems like the physical things, black eyes, broken bones, etc., those heal eventually... Mental abuse sticks around forever. There are things that have been said to me that I still "hear" twenty plus years later.

    @justnetjunior8710@justnetjunior8710 Жыл бұрын
    • No joke, i had an abusive ex in my teens and twenties. It’s been well over a decade, my physical scars are healed, my mind is still damaged. I’m too old for this drama.

      @maxwellmortimermontoure7274@maxwellmortimermontoure7274 Жыл бұрын
    • More people need to realize that. Physical wounds heal, mental ones take a long time to heal or may even never heal at all. I was bullied because I'm pretty short for my age (I'm between 11-16 and 4'11 and a half) and because I was seen as "The weird kid" for most of my life. Now I don't really deal with that but what happened before still hurts. I was told I'm useless, that I'd never amount to anything, that I could never be loved, ect. Now I have trouble believing that I am useful, important, loved, and just anything positive anyone says about me

      @thatrandomgayweirdo2062@thatrandomgayweirdo206211 ай бұрын
    • Yea my scratches from her go away but the words my mom says have never left me

      @user-js8ws6et6d@user-js8ws6et6d10 ай бұрын
    • Yes. I still remember my birth mother telling me I was ugly. I remember like it happened 5 mins ago.

      @thetruthhurts599@thetruthhurts5999 ай бұрын
    • @@thatrandomgayweirdo2062 I don't know you, but I'm pretty sure -since you are here lol- you are are beautiful honest humans who deserve to be loved, cared about and respected by other humans. We are ALL weird... Just saying. I bet your weirdness makes you pretty dang cool when it comes down to brass tacks.I love yooz!

      @justnetjunior8710@justnetjunior87109 ай бұрын
  • Time stamps 1 / empathy error 1:31 2 / low self esteem 2:31 3 / yes to all 3:21 4 / self-doubt 4:15 5 / fatigue 4:56

    @Puffy_jpg@Puffy_jpg Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you 😊

      @noonegirl@noonegirl Жыл бұрын
    • Why isn’t this pinned?

      @casualamber@casualamber Жыл бұрын
    • Hey wait a minute

      @highsoldier420@highsoldier420 Жыл бұрын
    • @@highsoldier420 hm?

      @Puffy_jpg@Puffy_jpg Жыл бұрын
    • 2,3,4,5

      @Kamix98PL@Kamix98PL Жыл бұрын
  • I feel like another type of mental abuse is when you are expected to do something for them, but the people that expect you to do something, dont do anything for you.

    @samzzy5@samzzy58 ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much! That was all me! Took me 50 years to realize it. I never knew what gaslighting is, but now I realize my mom gas lit me all the time and my brothers. Now it is effecting their own kids. I won't let my mom visit my home and tend to put aside my own needs still all these years later to make my mom happy. I thought I might have autism when someone who works with Autistic adults pointed that out to me, but now I am thinking it is more this than that. Thank you for your videos. Still trying to get a Psychiatrist, but they are lacking in my area of Canada at the moment ever since the Pandemic, and I live below the poverty line and cannot afford much. Still, your videos help me to realize it is not my fault and realize my own self-worth finally and why I have anxiety and depression and why my semi-successful brother has such a fear of failure and my other brother feels like he can never measure up. They both have very bad tempers which ruin every relationship they have with women. I have worked on my temper but still find myself being rude and insulting unintentionally. Thank you. The first step is realizing and understanding. From here I can grow and help myself. Thank you. I mean I was also physically abused as well with the belt and hairbrush and a strap of rubber, etc but ... still it never seemed "bad enough to REALLY be physical abuse" and my parents only did those things because "they love me" just like their words were because "they love me enough to tell me the things other people just think about me". Your videos are helping me come to terms with my past. Thank you.

    @kabo0m@kabo0m11 ай бұрын
    • "they love me enough to tell me the things other people just think about me" - OOF! That one hits hard! My mom does that all the time, and I'm like, Can you NOT, THOUGH?? You tell me what I'm doing wrong ALL THE TIME, can you keep your mouth shut for two seconds?! I don't want to hear it! X'D Sorry you've had to go through this, bro!

      @7Write4This9Heart7@7Write4This9Heart73 ай бұрын
  • I've been mentally and emotionally abused by pretty much my entire family my whole life. Like you need to take responsibility for everything when half the stuff that happened wasn't even my fault. I almost thought I was insane at one point. I learned to recognize the signs of it when I was younger thankfully. But it's not a fun thing to deal with. I implore anyone to go seek help from a trusted person if you feel like your being abused. The damage runs deep and sometimes never leaves.

    @lollybirdy@lollybirdy Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for sharing something so personal with us. It's unfortunate that things happen to us whether we want them to or not but, as you said, it's important that we take responsibility, even if it something isn't our fault. We wanted to ask, how did you come to recognize signs of abuse? Is this something that you learned on your own? Or did you have someone who helped you identify those signs? How are you doing now?

      @Psych2go@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
    • @@Psych2go I looked up a lot on the internet and I also had a therapist. Those definitely helped me see that I was being abused.

      @lollybirdy@lollybirdy Жыл бұрын
    • @@lollybirdy I would take your advice if I did not have to constantly call every therapist’s school where they earned their degree from b/c some therapists forge their degrees and certificates and make it convincing/too realistic.

      @casualamber@casualamber Жыл бұрын
    • Completely and Totally REMOVE YOURSELF. - family - friends, work associates,whomever. GO AWAY and DON’T RETURN It’s not Easy , can be Lonely- The INNER PEACE WILL EVENTUALLY PREVAIL GIVING STRENGTH AND STRONG SATISFACTION! 🌝CHEERS !!! 👍

      @johnemorrison-kj3ox@johnemorrison-kj3ox Жыл бұрын
    • I can relate to this. Looks like you were the family scape goat. I would be blamed for things that broke in the family home when I wasn’t even there.

      @lilmissenigma@lilmissenigma Жыл бұрын
  • This channel has actually helped me a lot to identify mental problems like this, I cannot thank you enough for what you’ve helped with

    @dxaisy@dxaisy Жыл бұрын
    • We appreciate you for the kind words. Which topic/videos were helpful for you? Could you share with us?

      @Psych2go@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
    • @@Psych2go please make a video about "if your family is comparing us to our siblings and gas lighting us and not listening to our words how can we over come them and how can we feel mentally disturbed by them" i would really appreciate if you could make a video about it.

      @ArtsyStaff81794@ArtsyStaff81794 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah. It's a good starting point to figure out things and make steps towards a better understanding and treatment, self or professional

      @YonRaptail@YonRaptail Жыл бұрын
    • @@Psych2go can you make a video on how and why social media and the hub ruined Gen Z?

      @casualamber@casualamber Жыл бұрын
    • @@casualamber umm... This is a psychological channel...

      @littlecutewriter@littlecutewriter Жыл бұрын
  • Coming back to this was actually really helpful. It helped me a bunch. One part that was my main issue (or the most common tactic in my experience) was that i would be treated as more of an object to be used, and talked down to as if i knew nothing. This ended up in me despising a hobby that i loved, because i felt i wasnt good enough for it

    @WRENthenbpotato@WRENthenbpotato10 ай бұрын
  • I basically have all the symptoms and well these videos make me feel good like someone actually cares so thank you for making them

    @user-js8ws6et6d@user-js8ws6et6d10 ай бұрын
  • I think the worst thing for me, is how this goes through families and generations. My grandmother had a horrific time in the third reich and the war, turning her into the abusive beast I knew her us. That in turn resulted in my mother and my aunt having horrendous childhoods and even though my mother tried her best to break the cycle with me - what she knew as normal, was neither that nor healthy. I am myself still deconstructing my “normal” in therapy. I really struggled to see my childhood as abusive for a long time, as I knew my mum loved me with all her heart - she just got really, really mad when I was being stupid or lazy (such as only bringing a 95% home). My fault really, I was the one not being perfect…exactly what she had told herself when her mother had done the same to her. That’s how you raise kids, right? There’s obviously much more to it, but beware of cycles and believing that people only abuse on purpose. It’s much more complicated.

    @miriams.4341@miriams.4341 Жыл бұрын
    • That's a big problem I have seen-- the notion that if your childhood was dysfunctional enough to create long lasting issues, then your caregivers were irredeemable "bad people" or didn't love or care about you, and that's just not the case, especially with intergenerational trauma. It actually makes those who love their parents and didn't have a relationship that was"all bad" more likely to downplay it and less likely to heal as a result, because it ultimately feels like a betrayal of someone you love, even if your relationship was far from perfect. I've even seen this on the CPTSD subreddit, where one person said their parents did their best but they thought that "tough love" and spanking as punishment for bad behavior were effective and not traumatizing, and they got dogpiled on for saying they still loved their parents and that their parents weren't horrible people. Really made me angry.

      @Lil_Yuri@Lil_Yuri Жыл бұрын
    • Imagine how the Germans felt having their entire nation and culture degenerated by Jews

      @zogbot5103@zogbot5103 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Lil_Yuri I realized how much I relate to the topic of this comment thread.

      @tbana2396@tbana2396 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Lil_Yuri This is so true. Every single word. How do I even tell my therapist this? They can hardly understand.

      @virginiagwen6523@virginiagwen6523 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Lil_Yuri Yes! Definitely true! I get the sense that a lot of people bring such harsh judgements to people that say they still love their families, even when they're dysfunctional and/or abusive, because either they're going through abuse themselves and are projecting onto others or they're looking for easy ways out of someone else's predicament(s). Even though the point about any kind of relationship is that they're not going to be easy. Humans are complicated creatures, and it's natural for relationships to be complex (even when they're not abusive).

      @Scarshadow666@Scarshadow666 Жыл бұрын
  • I had a conservation with my aunt a few days ago and brought up that I've felt emotionally neglected by my father for a long time and her reply was "Well, he's still a good person". He intentionally weaponized my traumas against me for years, mocked me for going to therapy, and brought me down every second he got yet took all the credit of my accomplishments as his own and still demands more. Let's just say that not every "good" person makes good parents.

    @raspberrycruse3795@raspberrycruse3795 Жыл бұрын
    • For anyone who's ever been mentally/emotionally abused I'm so sorry from the deepest bottom of my heart. Nobody should ever have to endure it let alone from the ones who are supposed to make you feel safe! Others may try to convince you that you're not special but never forget that you are a gift! Just you being yourself makes you special because while there's billions of other people in the world in the end, there's only one of you!

      @raspberrycruse3795@raspberrycruse3795 Жыл бұрын
    • I wish my father would have stuck 2 his original career goal...man of the cloth ..a god-damn priest.

      @susanm7925@susanm7925 Жыл бұрын
    • Frankly, that doesn't sounds like a good person at all. Not to you, at least.

      @doravee@doravee11 ай бұрын
    • Relatives😢My father, grandparents, both sides, my sister, aunts and even cousins had this unspoken arrangement that my Mother, who is bipolar, very arrogant, manipulative, controlling and generally everyone I know sais "the craziest person in the world" can do anything to me, just as long as she doesn't bother them. From a young age she used to harass me, she would wake me up in the middle of the night to see if I had pubic hair or to tell me I did something wrong in her dreams. My father hated me cause he stayed with her bc of me although she had a miscarriage and was childless 1-2 years before me. He loved my sister, she did worse in school, got into trouble, I thought it was my fault cause living with the thought the people whom you totally depend on don't wish you well is not what you can live with. Only too late in my life I realised he just couldn't stand the sight of me, cause my sister looks like him, and I take after my mother. The rest were: you should not make you mother angry cause she would get sick(her parents), or make your father angry and sick(his parents). It was my fault when the house was a mess or we had no money, sometimes I thought they would blame on me even the wars in Iraq😢 Just because they could. And every single one of them was a "good person". Covering up is not good.

      @totozviara@totozviara11 ай бұрын
    • I know this feeling all too well. Being a ‘good person’ doesn’t make up for having some f@cked up ways. All the best to you.

      @melodykingwood136@melodykingwood13611 ай бұрын
  • why does she have such a calming voice? Like only her videos calm me when I have a panic/anxiety attack. Thank you

    @MancaPeternelj@MancaPeternelj10 ай бұрын
  • this changes the way I look at these things I've felt especially, the last one thank you so much

    @sumsumnight807@sumsumnight8073 ай бұрын
  • As a person who was mentally abused, to others going through this phase, don't worry you'll get through. If people compare you with others, reply that your unique. Love yourself the most. Priotize yourself more. And if people pick on you, compare you, belittle you, remember your one of a kind. There's no second you. ❤️❤

    @Rosemary-fd5uf@Rosemary-fd5uf Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for sharing this and letting the audience know that they aren't alone. Can you share with us about how you overcame your struggles and how you are feeling now?

      @Psych2go@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
    • @Psych2Go the atmosphere of toxicity has decreased in my house. Since my health kept declining due to the mental stress my mother put on me, my elder sister decided it best for us to go to therapy and talk to someone who is an expert at these stuff. That really helped my mother and me. Now we are like any other mother and daughter duo. :D

      @Rosemary-fd5uf@Rosemary-fd5uf Жыл бұрын
    • If getting yelled at is a sign of mental abuse then everybody has been mentally abused, therefore nobody has it.

      @eliseitz2141@eliseitz2141 Жыл бұрын
    • Your comment made me cry but thank you for supporting people in the same situation ^^'

      @AshIsAnENFP@AshIsAnENFP Жыл бұрын
    • Nope: I’m ruined…

      @michaelgarrow3239@michaelgarrow3239 Жыл бұрын
  • I think something that wasn't talked about in depth is self destructive behavior. Putting yourself in dangerous situations is one thing, but I think self sabotage is something else. Deliberately picking fights when there's nothing to fight over, questioning good intentions, overthinking, relationship hoping...eventually this puts a strain on potentially good relationships

    @mbuguaoliverkibe4219@mbuguaoliverkibe4219 Жыл бұрын
    • This is very true..

      @-Poob-@-Poob-11 ай бұрын
  • I want to thankyou for making these kinds of vidios, it feels like someone out there know what we are going through. Thankyou for the knowledge. May god bless all😊

    @AnjaliSetia-qd5mo@AnjaliSetia-qd5moАй бұрын
  • Self doubt and low self esteem are big ones for me. I already know that I've been abused mentally and emotionally by parents and past friends. This video just proved it.

    @pakuvang4775@pakuvang47757 ай бұрын
  • 1: empathy error 1:29 2: low self esteem 2:30 3: yes to all 3:19 4: self doubt 4:15 5: fatigue 4:56

    @therealcaduceus@therealcaduceus Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for taking the time to add the timestamps!

      @Psych2go@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
    • @@Psych2go ofc

      @therealcaduceus@therealcaduceus Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you

      @Annagiraffelover77@Annagiraffelover77 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @lcelervs@lcelervs Жыл бұрын
  • This video just made me realize that I've been mentally abused by my mother. It's been going on so long that I've became so numb to it but since I've awaken I see it and how it has effects me mentally. I'm learning to keep my distance now.

    @Breakthrough9@Breakthrough9 Жыл бұрын
    • My mother been gaslighting me for years, neither she I or could id it until I decided to talk about it. Step one to solving a problem is by identifying it.

      @ludwigvanmuhaha5988@ludwigvanmuhaha59887 ай бұрын
  • This hit me really hard… thank you so much for making this video.

    @AurenGlytterkat@AurenGlytterkat11 ай бұрын
  • I clicked on this one without any thoughts in my mind but I ended up crying how everything is so relatable !

    @Pratibha1485@Pratibha148511 ай бұрын
  • I am definitely a victim of all this! It ruined my whole life 😢

    @latoyamcghee1524@latoyamcghee1524 Жыл бұрын
    • It does. It really does.. It certainly ruined my life.

      @harrietharlow9929@harrietharlow9929 Жыл бұрын
    • That sounds awful :(. How are you doing now? Do you feel like you're in a better place mentally?

      @Psych2go@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
    • This may sound bad to some people but sometimes I wish I had no family because most of them hurt you anyway

      @keiron.4612@keiron.4612 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Psych2go No because of my FASD I lost the love of my life. But I just keep going. Sooner or ater I will feel I'm in a better pace. Rationally, I know I'm in a better pace because I know I was used and manipulated by them. but still...

      @harrietharlow9929@harrietharlow9929 Жыл бұрын
    • @@keiron.4612 Yes me too but who needs them anyway I bet you are a amazing person!

      @latoyamcghee1524@latoyamcghee1524 Жыл бұрын
  • Fatigue … that’s a key point for me. I can relate to all points, but this one is a huge problem.

    @MichaelMolli@MichaelMolli Жыл бұрын
    • Me, too. Unfortunately, my fatigue has led to my neglect of my loved ones, so I have caused them pain.

      @SatisfyingLullabyAsmr@SatisfyingLullabyAsmr8 ай бұрын
    • me too@@SatisfyingLullabyAsmr

      @treatmenice1564@treatmenice15648 ай бұрын
  • This really hit me. Thank you for making this.

    @LaurenTolbert-nv8lt@LaurenTolbert-nv8lt11 ай бұрын
  • thank you so much i never new i was mentally abused and i love watching your videos it helps me to understand life

    @TeddyBlaza@TeddyBlaza11 ай бұрын
  • I have PTSD from mental abuse, which lead me down a dark path. I'm doing what I can to survive the day.

    @DemonTom@DemonTom Жыл бұрын
    • I am personally proud of you As someone who's had the same

      @PortalJay@PortalJay10 ай бұрын
    • Here's a hug Jay, bring it in. :)

      @DemonTom@DemonTom10 ай бұрын
  • The side that was missing to me is being hyper aware of social situations, words, etc etc to the point that you become reactive before it actually happens. Like when I see the signs of *insert issue* in another person, (like using a certain tone, shifting weight a certain way while talking, perhaps a buzz word/phrase, or micro facial expressions, etc.) even if that's not what's happening, I have a habit of shutting down the conversation and defaulting to defensive actions.

    @tanyavolansky5042@tanyavolansky5042 Жыл бұрын
    • I think I do that with my abuser; even though they have sincerely asked for forgiveness, the second they look/sound/etc. like they are going to say something they used to, I react before they can even catch themselves, or who knows if they were even going to say what I assumed?! I may be making our healing all the more difficult by my reaction because, now, my reaction is anger…omg…🙁. TYSM for this comment. I’ve got to become intentional to not switch roles with them, as we love each other very much. I wish I knew a way to find an accountability partner of sorts.

      @SatisfyingLullabyAsmr@SatisfyingLullabyAsmr8 ай бұрын
  • Great vid. I was physically and mentally abused heavily by my stepfather as a child and had to seek professional help at many times in my adult life to help cope with the trauma. One counselor put it eloquently: you can only be physically abused to the point your body can hold out, but there is no limit to how badly you can be mentally abused.

    @adamestrada7610@adamestrada76108 ай бұрын
  • I relate to 2, 3 and 4 a lot. I was always bullied, teased, tormented and ridiculed in school by classmates and even my sister. When I told my parents, especially my mom, they acted like I was taking things way too far, way to serious. My mom told me a couple things about my bullying: 1) their just joking around, learn to take a joke 2) They're being mean to me because I'm being mean to them. WTF? 3) She even said I deserve to be bullied. She seemed to think that high self confidence, high self esteem was the equivalent of being a self centered egotistical maniac(in me, not my sisters) I was raised that standing up for myself, showing backbone, setting boundaries and saying no was wrong(to everyone. If I acted in that manner, everyone acted like I'm starting shit, not trying to defend myself) This is mainly why I'm in therapy. I wish I started it sooner

    @mikeschuett339@mikeschuett33910 ай бұрын
  • I just left a mentally abusive relationship with the father of my 3 month old son. It's been so so hard. Thank you for this video for clarifying what I've been going through

    @charlieiris28@charlieiris28 Жыл бұрын
    • We're so sorry that you went through an abusive relationship. We wanted to ask, which part of the video was relatable to you in your past relationship? And are you in a safer place now both physically and mentally??

      @Psych2go@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
    • @@Psych2go all of the boxes were checked in this video... I am staying at a safe place now with my son thankfully. But his father still wants custody and tries to manipulate me every day. The abuse hasn't ended yet...

      @charlieiris28@charlieiris28 Жыл бұрын
    • @@charlieiris28 You are so strong❤️

      @enyacorneliasoderberg@enyacorneliasoderberg Жыл бұрын
    • @@enyacorneliasoderberg thank you kindly. I needed the reminder. It's only been a month separated and each day is getting harder

      @charlieiris28@charlieiris28 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah I'm glad your in a safe space because when your leaving someone who abused you they don't like that. Might need to look up narcissistic behaviors to see if he is a narcissist. You got this. I'm not sure if he was good with your child before you left or do you think he's wanting custody to hurt you. Stay safe and strong for your baby.

      @brittnieparker9606@brittnieparker9606 Жыл бұрын
  • Escaping from mental abusive parents is very difficult

    @MrCurlz@MrCurlz Жыл бұрын
  • Watching these videos and recognizing that I used to, but recovered, from these issues, makes me feel very well.

    @AveryShort-kg4pt@AveryShort-kg4pt10 ай бұрын
  • After a series of mentally abusive relationships, I found out I have Asperger’s syndrome by taking a AQ test with my counselor. I found out that we can fall into abuse because we can’t read the social cues of covert manipulation and ill intent. It blew my mind! I read a book called ‘ The highly sensitive person’s guide to dealing with toxic people.’ Now I know how the brain of these people work and their playbook. I also had a toxic upbringing so that didn’t help. It’s like I had every weakness to be abused. And boy did it happen like I was a magnet to the worst psychopaths for the past 6 years. I am healing from complex PTSD. I’m optimistic.

    @Healthandbeautycoach@Healthandbeautycoach Жыл бұрын
    • I was speaking to an ex-convict about things like this and asking him why those of us are magnets for abusive people? He said, "Because we can smell you". Actually saying there is an odor or something victims of abuse give off that are picked up by guys like him!

      @klattalexis@klattalexis9 ай бұрын
    • So you're saying that people can fall into abuse? WELL I CAN'T. >:)

      @RussianTurretGuyyy@RussianTurretGuyyy8 ай бұрын
    • What do you mean, exactly ? Have you learned how to avoid abuse? @@RussianTurretGuyyy

      @SatisfyingLullabyAsmr@SatisfyingLullabyAsmr8 ай бұрын
    • Thank you for the book recommendation!

      @SatisfyingLullabyAsmr@SatisfyingLullabyAsmr8 ай бұрын
    • @@RussianTurretGuyyyAnyone can.

      @celty5858@celty58588 ай бұрын
  • This hit home so hard. I grew up with mental abuse shrouded in the cloak of "tough love". I am now in my 30's, dysfunctional, have a hard time saying no to ppl when they want something, I have fibromyalgia (diagnosed at 23) chronic fatigue and burnout, and often times find it hard to empathize correctly with others.... Not that I don't know how to empathize I'm a very empathetic person mostly because my abuser from when I was a child wanted me to empathize with them constantly so I had to learn to empathize constantly and be able to read their emotions and their moods very very closely, I know how to empathize and I am a very empathetic person but I don't empathize properly with certain timings. Mental abuse is a very serious thing It can cause a lot of problems that are more than just mental problems they become physical, and manifest as illnesses, disabilities, or even death. Abuse is never okay in any way shape or form. Mental abuse can really mess someone up and I couldn't even bleed into them and make them abusive too because they think it's okay and it's a way to show love because it's how they received love.

    @hairnerd86@hairnerd86 Жыл бұрын
  • This touched me enough to comment. Everyone is carrying some sort of burden. Even those who have made your life difficult. Be strong but kind. Treat yourself as someone you want to help.

    @kentsanders7127@kentsanders712711 ай бұрын
  • Oh well... I guess it should scare me that I find the things mentioned in the video so relatable. It's definitely worth thinking about. Here's a huge hug for everyone who needs it, I want you toknow that you are important, no matter what others in your life may say. You are valuable for being you. Btw, these cartoon references are so good, kudos to psych2go crew

    @user-ps8cj7ui3j@user-ps8cj7ui3j11 ай бұрын
  • In some cases mental and emotional abuse can result in C.P.T.S.D, and the victim can suffer flashbacks that trigger the sympathetic nervous system, resulting in a fight/flight/freeze/appease response at really inappropriate times. This can also affect self-esteem, stunt your self-actualization, and damage your ability to trust others. Remember to be kind to yourself everyone! Thanks Psych2go for the continuing fight against poor mental health!

    @russellcollins4291@russellcollins4291 Жыл бұрын
  • With my so-called father Herb and all of his years of constant hollering and bitching and motivational threats of get to work or else, and especially about how he thought I knew better than to act like a kid, this has left me with an anxiety disorder that I cannot overcome or resolve. I'm age 69 and I've suffered all my life with this.

    @jimmyhuesandthehouserocker1069@jimmyhuesandthehouserocker1069 Жыл бұрын
  • I took care of my alcoholic, emotionally abusive, and manipulative father(my mom was emotionally abusive as a kid too) for 5 years and it wasn't until he passed away that I developed fibromyalgia and I didn't realize there was any correlation, but this video has completely blown my mind. Thank you for all that you do!

    @idied16@idied167 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for this video. It made me realise that this may actually be happening to me.

    @Salmon-em2pn@Salmon-em2pn10 ай бұрын
  • I was abused my whole life, mentally and physically, and, I entered two *extremely* toxic, volatile and abusive relationships. I unfortunately have all the symptoms listed here, except one. Instead of being unsympathetic towards others, I'm on the opposite spectrum. I'm *extremely* empathetic, to the point I will do *anything* to help others, within my power, and I often feel extremely drained because I'm the "therapist" or "parent" friend to people. It's nice to be relied on, but, I'm rarely checked up on. At least I have a healthy relationship now, tho. It took a LOT to get me out of the toxic mindset, and I still slip and think my boyfriend will mistreat me for the smallest mistakes, but, I'm working on that. And, he's trying to help me learn to say no to people, and not take everyone else's burden, along with my own. Can't say we're entirely effective in un-learning these habits and feelings, but, I do hope one day, I'll be able to help others, while not taking a huge hit myself.

    @lantearia@lantearia Жыл бұрын
    • I NEVER identified more with a commentary in My life. Hope you are doing better.

      @Aladius@Aladius11 ай бұрын
    • I could have written this comment, word by word. I still remember how I was kind of frozen when I realized (in my late 20s) that most of my empathy was part of a "I need to measure the energy and the mood of people around me to be something that is not annoying them even more" so that they don't unload on me.

      @laberbla6466@laberbla646610 ай бұрын
  • What's hard is when you want to walk away from your abuser but can't. My mother was recently placed into an assisted living facility in my city because she can't live by herself. Now that my father is gone, so are any remaining boundaries and the emotional abuse is intensifying. I accept she's grieving, but I feel so alone and trapped. Work isn't much better right now, but we're all in the mess together.

    @DenebolaWhytestar@DenebolaWhytestar Жыл бұрын
    • So... I've been in a similar situation, and I'm going to tell you what I did, but I'll say right now I can't know if it would work for you but it might be worth trying. Tell your mother in whichever way is easiest for you - in person, over the phone, in a letter - that you are no longer going to tolerate her hurtful behavior. That if she doesn't stop doing what she's doing that you'll cut contact completely. Sadly, that's the easy part. The hard part is that she's most likely going to push back to see if it's a real boundary, and you _have to stick to your ultimatum._ It doesn't have to be forever, you can just cut her off for a week or two, but you _have to_ stick to it or this won't even have a chance to work. After a week or two get back in contact - over the phone, preferably, so you can cut her off immediately if she lapses back into whatever her abusive behavior might be - and before anything else, make her understand that there won't be a third chance; if she forces you to cut her off again, it'll be permanent.

      @dudeistpriest787@dudeistpriest787 Жыл бұрын
    • The best thing I did was to cut off contact. If she's in assistance living, let them deal with her. I did and it's been so much better. BTW, she doesn't even miss me.

      @sonjawilliams989@sonjawilliams989 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@sonjawilliams989 I agree with that. Qualified people are taking care of her, juste walk away from her. She's been abusing you for years, you do not owe her anything juste because she gave you life. You deserve to live in peace with people that treat you nicely

      @RionRion@RionRion9 ай бұрын
  • 6:01 this made me remember a moment I had with my English teacher, I’ve always had excellent notes in English, and k mean 9 and 10s (basically all A) that was until recently I got so mentally tired that k couldn’t do anything at all, and I’d just sit in class looking out the window, and dropped down on my grades bad. I had always tried my best to make sure to never let anyone know when I am feeling down, not for any special reason it just makes me feel awkward, or like I’m doing it for attention in some way. I can’t explain it but point is I do my best to not worry others and not seem sad around them, not even my parents had stopped for a second to ask me if I wasn’t doing alright which technically is what I wanted, but when one day after class that same English teacher walked up to me asking me if I was alright and mentioning I looked very tired recently, it made me realize how much I really wanted recognition from someone. She made my week after asking about me because it made me feel like there was someone who cared, I still told her I was fine, I couldn’t bring myself to tell her I wasn’t. But it really made me think about how something so small can change someone’s day so much. I still appreciate that teacher very much, I found it funny how she has the same haircut as the teacher in the video too !

    @ivava7707@ivava770711 ай бұрын
    • Thats so sweet! That scene also reminded me how my class teacher asked me "Are you alright, u look so scared" When I was having one of the worst days of my life in school. I felt so loved and touched by that ❤

      @susmitasingh3430@susmitasingh34302 ай бұрын
  • I learned these things pretty early and tbh i found a workaround for a lot of these things i remember struggling with a lot of the things mentioned but with a bit of therapy and some self induced motivation i think i came out stronger then ever

    @caseysmith5592@caseysmith559210 ай бұрын
  • I survived mental abuse from teachers and other students for years due to always being labeled somehow different. I never understood why I was treated so poorly by even adults who were supposed to help me. Now that I'm older I am recognizing that I dealt with all of these symptoms and still do at times. Thanks for this video🙂

    @donovanleitch1149@donovanleitch1149 Жыл бұрын
    • This happened to my son, and I pulled him out for homeschooling. Now, he is able to be his amazing self and has had much success. Teachers are very powerful figures in our formative years, and many of them teach students to bully particular children. I can remember losing all respect for my favorite 7th grade teacher when I realized she picked on this one boy almost every class. I still think of her on occasion, and that was 1992-93!! He had a very difficult time, but has grown into a happy and successful man.

      @SatisfyingLullabyAsmr@SatisfyingLullabyAsmr8 ай бұрын
    • I have also had that experience almost all my life with teachers and other kids mostly through elementary but some in middle school. I was always neglected by the teachers and easily outcasted by others students cause of my problems which made me seem weird. I was never a really bad kid but I was emotional and was dealing with a bunch of medical problems that affected me highly causing me a lot of physical and emotional issues. I never was mean to other students and I was tried to get along and be friends with them but time and time again I was mocked and belittled for being myself- for my likes, my emotions, anything that they felt like bullying me for. Teachers were no better, they belittled me for my problems, claiming I was just being 'difficult' or being 'stupid' when I didn't understand things, they even made fun of my emotional state especially when I would cry over being excluded or seen as a weirdo. It would be so bad teachers would talk about me to each other INFRONT OF ME, and even would take the side of my bullies as they were seen as 'sweet normal students', and if I would ever get upset or angry they would treat me as I was some wild animal or a threat to other students.. I never laid my hands on or wanted to lay my hands on anyone in the school- I got use to how I was treated over the years until I got to highschool which helped me understand subjects that teachers didn't even bother helping me understand like math, and started to see teachers in a better light after that since they actually spoke to me as a feeling living person and not a wild animal or freak that they just had to watch for hours. For once I was actually getting better at subjects and getting A's cause they actually took the time to teach me and teach me ways to understand things if i was confused. Also I'm so glad someone else had problems with the education system treating them this way cause whenever I talk about it people claim 'i must have done something ' or 'your being a liar, no one does that's. Also I hope your doing way better- im still dealing with these problems and I hope that if people would talk about how messed up school systems could be that this stuff won't happen to kids.

      @mckaylamutnansky7176@mckaylamutnansky71763 ай бұрын
  • as someone who went through both physical and mental abuse. your not alone and never feel like your alone always ask someone for help like a counselor at your school or a therapist. as there ready to help you and care about you

    @savethehorses8339@savethehorses8339 Жыл бұрын
    • In my case, that's not what happened. No one actually stands up. I learned the hard way that no one would, so I honestly stopped doing so. There was no one, not even a cousin, an uncle, or whatever who'd be by my side when I've been on theirs plenty of times.

      @MarianaCarvalho-gu8zx@MarianaCarvalho-gu8zx Жыл бұрын
    • @@MarianaCarvalho-gu8zx I didn't either till a friend saw the abuse and reported it herself to a counselor

      @savethehorses8339@savethehorses8339 Жыл бұрын
  • Wow. You hit home for me. I was just like Cinderella when I was younger, and all of these points hit me at my core. Wow

    @froglady1169@froglady116911 ай бұрын
  • I Could listen to your voice for hours it's so calming :)

    @PandaLife04@PandaLife0411 ай бұрын
  • As someone whos also been mentally abused: we are all here for you and i belive its best to talk about it x

    @kenzxedits@kenzxedits Жыл бұрын
    • To be fair though, the world would probably be better off without us. Since our mere existence in western society is slowly killing mother Nature

      @alisha8099@alisha8099 Жыл бұрын
  • The paranoia, man, it's real. When you grow up being abused, you learn to expect it, and when you expect abuse, some of the behaviors you engage in to be ready for it can come off as unhinged.

    @SomeGuy-gc8zs@SomeGuy-gc8zs Жыл бұрын
    • Oh wow, well put. This happens to me quite often

      @SatanEnjoyer@SatanEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
    • You said it right on the money. It's almost like you're bracing for a punch that rarely ever comes. It's hard when you lose relationships because of it, because if the person leaves due to your behavior, they think you're something that you're actually not. They dont know any better if they never experienced abuse. We're still working it out ourselves- meanwhile they have no clue what's going on.

      @Shinja_Sleepwalker@Shinja_Sleepwalker11 ай бұрын
  • After watching 3 of your videos I knew your gonna be one of my favorite channels.

    @isaactran2017@isaactran20178 ай бұрын
  • Aww this is really sad!! People like this don't believe they deserve REAL LOVE 💕

    @skinbeautyproducts1998@skinbeautyproducts1998 Жыл бұрын
  • I really needed this! I’ve just started my journey into understanding the abuse and trauma I endured growing up. I had an alcoholic father and narcissistic (and competitive) mother. No acknowledgement of everything I accomplished came without a “but…” from my mother! I couldn’t ever win or be good enough! The parentification started when I was 7-8 years old and i see now what it did to me. I ended up in a horribly abusive codependent marriage…got out but still struggle with self-esteem.

    @jenyj89@jenyj89 Жыл бұрын
    • 😮 the "but" added to everything. My mother did that constantly! She was very religious & used that against me too

      @Batty77@Batty77 Жыл бұрын
    • Wow... That sounds really awful. Sometimes people think they're being constructive by adding "but". However, people don't realize that sometimes a warm affirmation is all we really need. How are you doing now? Do you have the right resources to help you process the things you went through?

      @Psych2go@Psych2go Жыл бұрын
    • I'm so glad you were able to find the courage to get out of both of those awful situations. I know that it must've been terrifying and difficult, but the fact that you did it at all shows how much strength you truly have. I wish you luck in your journey of healing, and never forget how far you've come.

      @multiplefandomlover7179@multiplefandomlover7179 Жыл бұрын
    • I can relate. I have a narcissistic mother too. I graduated with honors and hold two degrees and I’m still not good enough for her.

      @carissaa8411@carissaa8411 Жыл бұрын
  • this makes me realize how controlling and horrible some parents are to their children 💜🥺 every bodies parents were raised differently

    @Shadowcat107@Shadowcat107 Жыл бұрын
  • I am all of them but definitely No 5. If I feel mentally overwhelmed and anxious I go to bed because I can't handle my thoughts, and when asleep the pain is gone, albeit temporarily. Good video. P.S. Regarding the passing of a pet: I am more sympathetic and empathetic to that than the passing of a person.

    @BlackCatsandPumpkins@BlackCatsandPumpkins3 ай бұрын
  • thankyou, now i know why i'm almost a week feeling tired and down, that's because there's someone i meeted online and i really attracted and interested to her and when we're always talking online and one day she becomes cold and not interested in me but that time ,i'm starting to fall with her but she's opposite to their feelings and when i'm feel invalidate i confront her and i'll stop talking to her, and after that, i'm so feeling down and always tired unlike before i'm energetic and active and after that happened, i'm always self doubt and feeling down and now i watched this video and i 'm thankful because now i know why i am like this😊❤ i can go back to myself and continuing what i'm positive before and letting go and forget that kind of person.

    @lesterdeguzman5029@lesterdeguzman50297 ай бұрын
  • I honestly thank you for this content. It shows that what I've been through wasn't normal even though everyone else says its just me being a snowflake. The abuse and neglect I faced has ruined my ability to properly form and manage relationships. My friends like me and hang out with me even though I do nothing for them to. I'm greatful for them but I physically don't understand why they keep me around when I do nothing to earn their affection. It makes me doubt weather they actually care or if they're just tallying up everything so one day they can use this debt to make me do stuff for them. Even if they are, at least they seem nice

    @skythedragon7897@skythedragon7897 Жыл бұрын
  • I was mentally abused as a kid. Thankfully, I was much more confident and eager to go against the world than most would. I have made my way through it. Hope others will too

    @thewritingmechanic@thewritingmechanic Жыл бұрын
  • Tw: SH and suicide mentions My mom always told me that I had no empathy for others and my parents would tell me to kms . They also told me that I could never do anything and everything I tried was worthless and helpless. I didn’t know how to cope so I sh my wrists and my hands. I always told people that u should never look up to things because you’ll always get an answer like no or they wont care. I learned to agree with everything my parents said so I could avoid her yelling at me for doing nothing wrong. Every time I was around my family I would think “”im just wroth nothing I hate myself and should just die anyways “” I always got bullied EVRY SINGLE DAY OF MY FRIKIN LIFE at school . So I gave up Hope on humanity too. I would never be sure of myself when anyone asked me something either. Although I never had fatigue but I had insomnia. Now that I’m older…. I’m starting to wonder if I was abused

    @Blu0nPawz@Blu0nPawz3 ай бұрын
  • What really stresses me out out of these 5 symptoms - it’s fatigue. I somehow got used to living with other 4, but constantly not have enough energy to simply live is devastating 😢

    @sashaivanchenko9153@sashaivanchenko9153 Жыл бұрын
  • The general public stigmatized everything with toxic "good vibes" It's not okay when there's no place for you to even let loose or tell. Especially in the USA. That isn't a therapist being paid to listen. Many don't need therapy. We need a warm home and good people to hear us out.

    @keip4568@keip4568 Жыл бұрын
  • I can relate so much to this. The first point about empathy I never thought was related to this, and I always feel so embarressed that I don't know how to react or what to say in those situations 😔

    @freja9398@freja9398 Жыл бұрын
    • I'm sorry

      @pixiethemixe3615@pixiethemixe3615 Жыл бұрын
    • I'm with you

      @Asbromovic@Asbromovic11 ай бұрын
  • I have an issue that was probably caused by my horrible childhood. I can't understand or handle others emotions. Now that I am trying to solve it with a therapist. My mother is more often calling me a heartless being that is gonna be homeless and alone. It hurts and I've always been this way and i use to be good at hiding it, but I chose to be more open about it. These videos help me think harder about emotions or my own issues and i enjoy it. So that I get better at understanding things.

    @ShadowGamingz@ShadowGamingz11 ай бұрын
  • This channel saved my life I’m a loner and nobody really know who I am even tho they think so I’m so happy I found this

    @A_RandomSliceOfCheese@A_RandomSliceOfCheese9 ай бұрын
  • Being mentally abused by my familly nearly on a daily basis for so long, I have become such in a habit of hearing it and fall victim to manipulative personalities, some with devastating consequences. I have finally learnt to say "no" and it feel fantastic!

    @sarahlemon1321@sarahlemon1321 Жыл бұрын
    • How did you do it? I'm genuinely looking for pointers at this point because this video just described me as a person and gave my childhood a real accurate summary and I want, if not need help. Thank you for any response in the future!

      @shimathefox7149@shimathefox71497 ай бұрын
    • I did seek professional help and it was a tremendous help! See helped me recognise the signs and protect myself from it. Especially, she helped me build my confidence back up and stop accepting the shame my familly are always trying to put on me. It is not easy, but start by taking care of yourself, doing something that makes you happy, it can go a long way. 🙂

      @sarahlemon1321@sarahlemon13214 ай бұрын
  • I've been mentally abused by my parents, former teachers, "friends" & acquaintances, workmates and several strangers. People abusing me is one of the main reasons why I'm depressed and anxious. My insecurity stems from perfectionism and I've been lonely my entire life. Not only that, but my self-esteem just keep getting lower and lower every day. It's like... why can't I be at peace for once?!

    @kenrickbautista6141@kenrickbautista6141 Жыл бұрын
    • ive found peace in the small things, a song, the weather, my favourite food. I think a bigger sense of peace comes in time when we find ourseleves with people we trust and further away from abusers. It's a work in progress unfortunately. I'm currently struggling too trust people and I keep avoiding being social/trusting people. It's hard because some people are abusive but theres lots of people who are kind-hearted and will be your friend. It's just finding those people that's hard. Good Luck!

      @katievictoria4450@katievictoria4450 Жыл бұрын
    • I can only speak from experience, but you won't find peace until you look at your flawed self in the mirror and accept how damaged you were by the actions/voices of parents/ relatives/friends, even if they didn't mean it, and know that it's not your fault - I mean really 'know', deep down, and forgive yourself for not being perfect. I won't bore you with the details of my childhood, but a pattern in my life was to make friends who also abused/took advantage of me, until I recognized that. There is no easy fix, but Katie Victoria makes a good point.

      @dexine4723@dexine4723 Жыл бұрын
    • @@dexine4723 ok I see. Thanks.

      @kenrickbautista6141@kenrickbautista6141 Жыл бұрын
  • I'd add: Trust issues, Social Anxiety / constantly shying away from social interaction even from things they like to avoid having to 'live up to expectation', Communication issues / trouble expressing themselves

    @AriaSerif@AriaSerif6 ай бұрын
  • I relate so much to self doubting. It's so bad that I would actually google every obvious things. I also find it difficult to empathize with others and myself to.

    @jjuunneeee@jjuunneeee5 ай бұрын
  • I have experienced gaslighting before, and it has caused me to doubt myself, and sometimes even others. I don't trust my instincts, and it's horrible. I always think, "Wait, what if it's this and not this?" and I eventually get overwhelmed which makes me feel stupid.

    @GO0SE8@GO0SE8 Жыл бұрын
    • You're not stupid. You might be hyper sensitive, but don't doubt yourself. If you've experienced gaslighting and emotional abuse before, it makes you very quick to recognize the signs again. You might be mistaken, but there's nothing wrong with being suspicious and thinking it through either.

      @dexine4723@dexine4723 Жыл бұрын
    • I also have experienced gaslighting. I also hold a grudge against someone who lie to me about my instinct. I was feeling something wrong, I ask him if he had a problem with me he said no. Months later he told me that yes at this time he didnt like to be around because of my personality. I can understand that I can be liked by everyone but not the lying. It was hard enough to ask. Sometimes I prefer to be hurt by truth than to discover a lying (and never think your lie will never be discover, often truth find it's way)

      @bleucha@bleucha Жыл бұрын
    • That is what gaslighting does to you. I was gaslighted by parents in my young life so that I was always trying to avoid making decisions and would just freeze, making myself look as if I were deaf or special ed as sometimes I would experience aphasia and memory loss, but this lead me to be more perceptive of others and can sense ill intentions. It is a horrible feeling especially when it is either from family but as well as your coworkers in the workplace. I am experiencing this in my workplace because people who engage in this kind of behavior know and see your weakness and so this why they are scapegoating you, especially when having problems at home.

      @jacqueslee2592@jacqueslee2592 Жыл бұрын
  • I never knew fatigue could be caused by the mental abuse! It makes some sense now. Also happy to see a study from a university in my country being cited! This almost never happens. K.U. Leuven is a university in Belgium, I feel kinda proud!

    @Lizz4927@Lizz4927 Жыл бұрын
  • You have trouble setting boundaries. You say sorry for almost everything.

    @TheSpiralZone@TheSpiralZone Жыл бұрын
  • ive started watching these because my therapist said they can help me recognize my issues when not talking to her, it helps a ton and i like coming back to these.

    @legitcannon420@legitcannon4209 ай бұрын
  • I have been in denial for a while now that my mom has been mentally abusing us for years. Whether it was her separating us from our dad's family for a over decade or her telling us that we aren't doing enough. She constantly yells and blames us for her problems. It is so bad to the point where she will trigger my panic attacks. I have woken up many nights crying because I would dream of her yelling at me. And thanks to this video I understand why I am burnt out. I am a high school student and my parents have always told us to be well-rounded so I did exactly that (I have taken Ap and Honors classes throughout my entire high school career, I am now taking some college classes, I have maintained a perfect GPA, I play two sports, I am in the top position in my clubs.) but to her, I am just an ungrateful brat who doesn't listen to her mother. I even started working at my parent's business and I get home later than them every day. The crazy part is that I wake up at least two-three hours before them I still complete my daily tasks plus she expects me to do her job of cooking and cleaning and taking care of the household. I feel like I am losing my mind because this has gone on for so long and now that my classes are heavy and hard she blames me for not being able to keep up.

    @alexandriab7497@alexandriab7497 Жыл бұрын
    • Face it: you will never be enough for your abusive mother. Sad truth. Stop exhausting yourself trying. You are already doing an impossible job. You ARE enough! I know, hard to believe that.

      @erikvolkers1826@erikvolkers1826 Жыл бұрын
    • Get out and be your own person

      @paulinepress3024@paulinepress3024 Жыл бұрын
    • @@paulinepress3024 I would love to but I am still technically a minor and still have a year left in high school

      @alexandriab7497@alexandriab7497 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, tough situation. Then again: you are probably hard on your way to get a burnout and that will be worse. Find a way to make yourself and your well-being a priority. Maybe find a safe spot with a friend or relative, even if it is just temporary or part-time. Don't be loyal to someone that doesn't deserve this. Don't think you owe something to your mother just because she's your mother. Motherhood comes with obligations, not with entitlement.

      @erikvolkers1826@erikvolkers1826 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for this video. It's totally true. As much as I love my Mother, she has always made me feel insecure since I was a little kid. That has caused me to have very low self esteem. She still continues to criticize everything I do. If I'm too skinny, too fat, too pale, if my clothes are wrinckled, etc. It becomes exhausting. And then 37 years later I have a chronic neurological disease very similar to fibromyalgia. I used to go above and beyond to please everyone because I felt I was walking on eggshells. I still do but now I am tired all the time so now I don't even care. Childhood is almost always the answer. I was never physically abused in any shape or form but I was always demanded to be perfect. Always straight A's (less than that was not accepted), no time to relax at all. And obviously I tend to have toxic partners that end up in failed relationships. I love her very much but it's very confusing when the person that you love the most is the one that hurts you the most.

    @Danielle-dw5gh@Danielle-dw5gh Жыл бұрын
    • I could relate! I Iove my mom and she always cared for me in another ways like washing my clothes, cooking the foods I like, telling stories. But she always said something about my physical body like "why are your skin so dry?" "you're a bit darker, it's ugly" "don't scratch your feet, it'll leave a mark, ugly". I always felt ugly that I never showed my face and didn't like to be photograph, I have a low self confidence still, but my friends and lover would always compliment me and said that I'm pretty. That really helps me. I hope the best upon you, may you heal thtough the wounds and live your best life however you expect!

      @angellikasusanto5512@angellikasusanto5512 Жыл бұрын
  • I am way too nice to people just because i want to be loved i also have suicidal/running away thoughts gaslighting low self-esteem and so much more

    @NereaGaibor@NereaGaibor5 ай бұрын
  • Im really glad you mentioned fatigue as a common symptom! I realized my fatigue was a trauma response when my emotionally abusive mother decided to involve herself in my breakup with my narcissistic ex. The compounded stress pushed me so far that I would quite literally pass out 3-4-times during texts conversations with her. My friends were really concerned that something was medically wrong with me. Some people even thought that i was on drugs. When i started looking for the cause so that i could explain it to folks, i couldn't find it anywhere. I was starting to think that maybe there WAS something physically wrong with me. I did eventually find it in an interview with a sleep specialist who explained that it is likely part of the fight, flight, freeze, or faun family, and that its likely very common, yet unrecognized due to 2 factors. First being that this kind of extreme stress often occurs in younger subjects around child bearing ages, and the second being that people dont often seek out sleep specialist for getting sleep. Since the discovery of that article 5 months ago, ths is the first ive heard of it mentioned. Im curious if anybody else has noticed fatigue as a symptom and was confused by it?

    @rebeccahibbard4844@rebeccahibbard48442 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for your amazing work. I have been mentally abused and it feels so validating to hear that it was not my fault.

    @izawaniek2568@izawaniek2568 Жыл бұрын
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