Toyota RAV4 vs. Honda CR-V (GEN 2) Big comparison!

2024 ж. 13 Нау.
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#toyotarav4 #hondacrv #vs #gen2 #comparison #dimensions #offroad #snowdriving #snow #interior #fuelconsumption #topspeed #aceleracion #4x4 #awd #4wd #mud #rav4 #crv #outoftheway4x4
OFF-ROAD, SNOW RIDING, INTERIOR, SPECIFICATIONS and much more.
I created the video for about six months over two seasons in several locations. So enjoy :)
OFF-ROAD, JÍZDA VE SNĚHU, INTERIÉR, SPECIFIKACE a mnoho dalšího. Video jsem tvořil přibližně půl roku během dvou ročních období na několika místech. Tak si ho užijte :)
Music: www.purple-planet.com

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  • I love hearing the VTEC rev high and get through trouble. Please put all the information from tests side by side. I am 04 CRV owner and love it

    @chocolatemonk@chocolatemonk2 ай бұрын
    • Same

      @3m250@3m2502 күн бұрын
  • I drove and loved both cars. great video, really enjoyed it!

    @Shoyeido@Shoyeido2 ай бұрын
  • Amazing video, thanks for sharing!

    @wolfman1ization@wolfman1ization2 ай бұрын
  • I have the same vehicle. Honda CRV is the best vehicle I have ever driven. 4x4 traction in snow and mud is very good

    @adnan202@adnan202Ай бұрын
  • My father has the 04 Honda, its a very good utility car, good in snow , very reliable and peppy engine. Only downside is a little high petrol consumption with the automatic trans.

    @JorgenRomeMojo@JorgenRomeMojoАй бұрын
    • Yes, but what I pay for gas, I save on service.. 🙂 Plus, all larger SUVs get better gas mileage.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
  • Veľmi poučné video, ďakujem 👍

    @Tube_EK@Tube_EKАй бұрын
  • Actually, now I have the CR-V I realise I mistakenly said the mileage was 65,000, when in fact it's only 55,000 miles! YAY! 😃

    @tonyollier7098@tonyollier7098Ай бұрын
    • I wish the CR-V makes you happy..£2000 is a good price. In England it's a good idea to have the chassis treated for corrosion. And only use genuine Honda oil in the differential!

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
    • UK honda prices are crazy! There is no 'honda tax' I paid my 06' £1750 for 115k miles. In France it was double or triple that.

      @rayal4860@rayal4860Ай бұрын
    • I bought my first Honda (Accord) gen 6 in England for £700 once. 14 years ago... I lived in Derby for 7 years.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
    • Yes! 14 years ago, my mechanic went there to pick up some turbo impreza for £2000.... Crazy, I said!

      @rayal4860@rayal4860Ай бұрын
    • I drive HONDA CR-V 2005 and i am very happy every day.

      @proiectediversebycosty1544@proiectediversebycosty154427 күн бұрын
  • This is a awesome video... You have taken the time and effort to bring it to the masses. I know it can be difficult when work and you tube collided 😊. These vehicle are the true essence of the AWD concept. At the time and still even today both will out preform any AWD in current form. I love my CRV auto 5 speed 2.4 ivtec. The only critical area is the location of the fuel tank and the wasted space under the table.( spare wheel on rear door). My real time awd system comes in straight away and is a treat. Great editing and filming.well done🇦🇺🚙👍

    @Wolf4wdadventures.576@Wolf4wdadventures.5762 ай бұрын
    • Thank you very much :) Yes, they are the last real SUVs.. uncompromising and functional. I agree that the CRV 2's tank design is wrong. But they probably didn't count on anyone thinking of it as an off road vehicle. It's just a great SUV, but for lighter terrain.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
    • Я покупал cr-v из-за свободного места под столом,так как у меня там стоит газовый баллон(получается как дополнительный бак).У нас в Украине очень популярно ставить газовое оборудование в автомобили с бензиновыми двигателями,что значительно удешевляет эксплуатацию авто

      @user-ud4wo6sm4d@user-ud4wo6sm4dАй бұрын
    • There is a wasted space under the table because in Japan the crv was sold in two distinct finishes, with or without the spare wheel on the door.

      @rayal4860@rayal4860Ай бұрын
    • @rayal4860 The tank could have been expanded into that empty space and not have to stick out stupidly on the chassis. The spare wheel on the tailgate gives the CRV just the right amount of style.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
    • Yes, this space could have been used for that But on a Honda factory assembly line, it would have been too complicated (and too much money!) to separate spare-wheel frames on the trunk and spare-wheel frames in the floor.

      @rayal4860@rayal4860Ай бұрын
  • super video :) než jsem jsi koupil svou CRV, tak jsem viděl všechny tvá videa. :) původně jsem zvažoval i Toyotu, soused ji má a Honda vyhrála. jednu už mám a CRV k ní byl už jen doplněk a bonus. hrozně mě baví velikost toho auta a všestranná praktičnost. :)

    @robinnguyen4306@robinnguyen4306Ай бұрын
    • Moc děkuju 🙂 Tentokrát video zabralo více času, než obvykle.. Čekání na určitá počasí atd. Jinak obě auta mají svoje kouzlo..Ale souhlasím, univerzálnost CRV je super..

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
  • Отличный обзор , без лишних слов 👍🔥

    @rustem5632@rustem563210 күн бұрын
  • Amo mi Honda Crv 2006 2.0 vtec, es unico y me encanta, porque muchos solo importan 2.4, pues el mio es veloz y economico.

    @eddoblede4037@eddoblede4037Ай бұрын
  • Luxusní video jako vždy. Určitě s tím nepřestávej. Každé video si velice rád zkouknu od začátku až do konce.

    @petawilczek4719@petawilczek47192 ай бұрын
    • Moc děkuju Péťo, to potěší.. Moc mě baví dělat tyhle videa, budu se snažit, aby měli stále co nabídnout. Na druhou stranu bych je nechtěl tvořit jen sám pro sebe.. Tak je fajn, když dá někdo zpětnou vazbu. To nejlepší teprve přijde 😉

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
    • @@OutOfTheWay4x4 Za mě super. Jak kvalitou tak i obsahem. Určitě pokračuj. Budu se těšit na další 😊Myslím že by byla škoda si takové poklady nechávat jen pro sebe 😇 Mě to právě vždycky úplně nutí taky to CRVčko hned někam vytáhnout 😅 ikdyž mám 4ku což už žádný teréňák není tak pořád zkoušíme a posouváme hranice 😀 Popravdě od té doby co jsem tě začal sledovat tak pokukuju po dvojce přesně na takové vyjížďky 😇

      @petawilczek4719@petawilczek47192 ай бұрын
    • @@petawilczek4719 No vidíš a to tě zklamu tím, že přecházím na offroad 🙂 Ale CRV 2gen si necháváme a budu točit videa s oběma 😉 Já měl 3ku, ale 2ka mě okouzlila více. 3ka už je moc moderní 🙂

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
    • @@OutOfTheWay4x4 Tak či tak vždycky rád zkouknu další tvojí tvorbu. Měj se a ať se daří 😊

      @petawilczek4719@petawilczek47192 ай бұрын
    • @@petawilczek4719 Ať se daří, zatím ahoj

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
  • good video - thank you

    @HARDCORE13666@HARDCORE13666Ай бұрын
  • Excelente video... !!!!😄

    @islennynunez4154@islennynunez4154Ай бұрын
  • I prefer the Honda :)

    @joebazooka874@joebazooka8742 ай бұрын
  • Gracias por el vídeo

    @mauricioalannavarretefuent6966@mauricioalannavarretefuent69662 ай бұрын
  • Tyhle tvoje videa jsou super . Jak tam mas rozměry atd a zkoušís terén ,ježdění prostor auta ,proste super!! 💪 na tohle jsem se moc těšil

    @kingangealguardian6678@kingangealguardian66782 ай бұрын
    • Moc děkuju 😊 Pojal jsem to trochu netradičně.. Místo mluvení koukání.. Já nejsem zrovna řečník 😂 Nerad mluvím o odborných věcech.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
    • @@OutOfTheWay4x4 hele tady to ani nebylo potřeba ten text super :D A ted v tomhle duchu Landáka hezky :D

      @kingangealguardian6678@kingangealguardian66782 ай бұрын
    • @@kingangealguardian6678 Ještě ho nemám, snad příští týden.. Každopádně s ním mám veliké plány, co se natáčení týče 😉

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing this great video. Now which one should i buy 🤔

    @user-jw5vi1zy3c@user-jw5vi1zy3cАй бұрын
    • Both are good..the CRV is roomier and the Rav4 is a bit better off-road - it has permanent all-wheel drive. I would recommend looking at both cars in person and taking them for a spin...Watch out for any rust on the chassis. I'm sure it also depends on the condition of the car..

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
  • Very nice video! Would be nice in the future comparison videos to see the dimensions and other specs of the vehicles side by side. Also, is that Rav 4 turbo diesel? Had no idea they came with that option! Always wished my 2006 CRV had a manual engagement for AWD or a 4WD option. But it works decently for what I use it for. Very comfortable and spacious! I agree with the other commentor that the fuel tank placement is horrible 😅

    @sllimnivet@sllimnivet2 ай бұрын
    • Thank you very much 🙂 Yes, as for the dimensions, someone already wrote it to me... It's true and I originally wanted it that way... I just thought that there are more chapters and it would have to be broken down like this, for example, also on consumption, acceleration, etc... On the other hand, it makes people watch the video again and there are more ads.... 😂 (just kidding) Otherwise yes, here in Europe the diesel variant of the Rav4 and CRV gen2 is quite common.. with a diesel engine this Rav4 runs great.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
    • If the need arises, the 4wd can be upgraded. We're looking of thinking into it with my mechanic, but it takes a lot of time (which he doesn't have!) and a bit of money (which I don't have!!)🙂

      @rayal4860@rayal4860Ай бұрын
  • Always Honda ❤️‍🔥

    @aydinyilmazmhp@aydinyilmazmhpАй бұрын
  • '05 5spd manual AWD owner, and loved this video. Great to see these 2 icons compared, and as always, the filming, and editing, are fantastic! 2 beautiful examples of the models. I sure wish we could have had them as diesels in the US! I feel lucky to have even found one with a 5spd manual transmission. I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on which one you liked more, overall, having tested them in the same driving conditions. Did one of them stand out? Quieter, more power, nicer feeling ride, better AWD function, better visibility out the windows, etc? They both seem fairly equal in the video, but I've never driven, or ridden in the Rav4, so I have no idea. I sure wish Honda would have relocated the fuel tank, and gotten ride of the fold-up table, and that wasted spare tire space below it (that the advertised in the US, was a "cooler" or "ice chest" for food). In my opinion, it was a poor choice to leave the fuel tank hanging down and in the way, with just a metal tube to protect it, and I feel the same with how they hung the exhaust system, with the catalytic converter and large resonator, both hanging down below the car, like an after thought. I really like mine, but these are a few things that make me say, "What were they thinking?" Thanks for all the time you put into making this video!

    @austinado16@austinado162 ай бұрын
    • Thank you so much..I'm so glad I read this. When I have enough time, I want to take the videos to an even better level. Unfortunately, this work doesn't feed me yet and I have to divide my energy between several things..

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
    • @@OutOfTheWay4x4 I completely understand about the time it takes to make the video, and also having time for a real job, and family! 2 things I'd like to suggest: - A little less music, so we can hear the engines doing their thing, and the exhaust, and the tires. So maybe when the cars are really working to get traction, or accelerate hard, the music can be blended away. - On a comparison video like this one, when you list specific statistics for 1 car, also list the same statistic for the other car, so that the viewer can instantly compare. Otherwise, the viewer has to wind the video forward or backward, in order to see how long the Rav4 is compared to how lone the CR-V is, etc. Be sure to let that K24 in the Honda, wind up over 4,500rpm and then go higher, because that's when the rotary valve opens, makes the intake runners longer, and suddenly, the engine actually starts to make power. It's sort of funny when it happens, because you can literally say, "Ok, here it comes. We're about to make some power."

      @austinado16@austinado162 ай бұрын
    • @@austinado16 Otherwise to your question.. I've owned 4 CRV's, I only have a Rav4 on long term loan now..Well my opinion is that the CRV is much more spacious and comfortable. It is much more suitable for a family. The Rav4 is better for off road. It is shorter overall and has permanent 4x4 drive. I found the Rav4 a bit more fun to drive. Its diesel was only 85kW, but its off-road power was a lot better than the 110kW petrol CRV. But it's a tribute to the diesel. My feeling is that if I didn't necessarily need a big comfortable car for the family as well, I'd opt for the Rav4 myself.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
    • @@austinado16 Yes I agree with the comments about the music and the sound of the car... Otherwise it's not exactly easy to get to the 4500 rpm in the terrain... You have to watch the terrain in front of you. You have to choose something in between... And the petrol 2.0 really loses a lot of power at lower revs.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
    • @@austinado16 But I can console you by saying that I'll be making another shorter video of this footage just offroad... without music and without much editing. And definitely some Short video..

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
  • Can we have more videos on the CRV please ❤

    @tayfu@tayfuАй бұрын
  • RAV4 every time. The model shown is a Base version of the RAV4 4.2 Gen. Honda's are very good, but I never liked the AWD it had. Seen too many stuck due to the strange AWD setup Honda has. The RAV4 4.2's biggest problem was ground clearance, it's permanent 4wd was one of the best back then except for Subaru which it was very close. Throw in LSD which some models had and a small lift kit with decent tires, it was a beast.

    @trajanaugustus8783@trajanaugustus8783Ай бұрын
    • Yes, every car has something good. Both of these cars are reliable. The Rav4 has a better 4x4 system and the CR-V is bigger and roomier. AWD wasn't primarily made for heavy off-road use in CR-V. It's more of a general purpose helper. But I have to say, I've always overcome a lot with it. Summer and winter. It would be nice to combine the Rav4 and CRV together 🙂 .

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
    • "Throw in LSD which some models had and a small lift kit with decent tires, it was a beast" You're talking about the crv, right?! 😝

      @rayal4860@rayal4860Ай бұрын
  • My dad bought a 2005 RAV4 2.0D that had 348k km and that has been abandoned for 3 years, but a full service and maintenance history sheet . It had no battery...simply abandoned. He bought it, restored and repaired it and now he drives it on long trips and/or in winter time. The car is absolutely amazing! Sure, it lacks a lot of features, it's not as comfortable as a newer car, the EGR is a bit problematic with some faults, but what a car... Now he as 365k km with it. And he enjoys it whenever he drives it. And for a permanent 4*4 with a transverse engine layout, it's surprisingly capable on a light off-road setup.

    @irimiaradu-silviu5764@irimiaradu-silviu576420 күн бұрын
    • Yes, the old Rav4 is great... Modern Rav4s have nothing to do with it anymore. It's good that your father saved her and now the Rav4 is paying him back. 👍

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x411 күн бұрын
  • Dzięki za filmik super porównanie Pozdrawiam z Polski :D

    @danielsekulski1986@danielsekulski19862 ай бұрын
    • Dziękujemy bardzo! I pozdrowienia dla naszego sąsiada w Polsce 😉

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
  • Moje volba je jasná 🤭👍 CR-V

    @Xfantasycz@Xfantasycz2 ай бұрын
    • No bodejť 😂 Máš taky krásnou CRV v automatu 👍🏻

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x42 ай бұрын
  • Honda Crv 😍

    @fikretamanov7293@fikretamanov72932 ай бұрын
  • They don't make them how they used to. So nice and practical.

    @mateobeccar2618@mateobeccar2618Ай бұрын
    • Definitely not... definitely not that nice!

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
    • @@OutOfTheWay4x4 It's probably me just being a tad bit nostalgic. Hehe

      @mateobeccar2618@mateobeccar2618Ай бұрын
    • @mateobeccar2618 So am I 🙂

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
  • Love crv❤

    @robertoortiz8625@robertoortiz8625Ай бұрын
  • Toyota Rav4 is best..

    @gka007@gka007Ай бұрын
  • Had the first Gen CRV and second Gen. Both brilliant vehicles. Much better looking than the Rav 4. Drove a couple of Rav's but still prefer Honda👍

    @PaulC1980@PaulC19808 күн бұрын
  • Honda Crv ❤❤❤

    @marcelgabriel843@marcelgabriel843Ай бұрын
  • Prosímtě neměl by jsi někde možnost udělat takovýhle test s nissanem x-trail t30 ?? :)

    @kingangealguardian6678@kingangealguardian6678Ай бұрын
    • Ahoj, bohužel o žádném Nissanu X- trail ve svém okolí nevím. Když bude možnost..

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
  • Tengo una duda, la honda como le activas el 4x4 o sola se activa Bueno espero me puedas responder

    @ianrodriguez4588@ianrodriguez4588Ай бұрын
    • Hola. El sistema 4x4 se cuida solo. En el Rav4, es tracción permanente a las cuatro ruedas. El sistema elige qué relación enviar al eje delantero o trasero según sea necesario. Y con el CRV, la tracción es principalmente al eje delantero, pero si hay deslizamiento, el sistema conectará automáticamente el eje trasero también.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
  • Im currently deciding between both cars. Speaking interior and long trips honda seems to have clear advantage. How would you say they compare while driving though? Looks like that muddy climb was much harder for honda than a toyota, but was it due to poor drivetrain performence (i have read a lot of bad opinions about it) or rather just more difficult conditions

    @cyklofil7652@cyklofil765221 күн бұрын
    • When it comes to interior, comfort and size, the Honda CR-V is a winner. It is supremely comfortable to drive on the road. The problem with the i-vtec is that it is an engine that gets more power only at high revs. And that's not very good off-road. Otherwise, it's an absolutely great and reliable engine! The Toyota Rav4 is smaller, has a smaller wheelbase and permanent all-wheel drive. Some have a reduction gearbox. The Honda CR-V can't compete with that off-road. But as for the video, when I shot the CR-V it was muddy... the Rav4 had frozen dirt. So the CR-V had it harder. But it made it.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x411 күн бұрын
    • @@OutOfTheWay4x4 thanks for the insight. I think i'll go for crv since primary job will be carrying MTBs and skis in the trunk. Greetings from Poland :)

      @cyklofil7652@cyklofil76528 күн бұрын
  • This is the only level of comparison between Honda and Toyota in terms of 4x4 vehicles and even at this level Honda shows its technical limitations . Further than this Toyota knows how to build real adventure and overlanding vehicles. On the other hand when Honda wanted to produce a real off roader they have rebranded a Land Rover Dicovery.

    @mihaimihai9254@mihaimihai9254Ай бұрын
    • Unfortunately, the CR-V is not a full off-road vehicle. It's a compromise between road and light off-road. It's a versatile car that's also suitable for the family. It's totally reliable. Real time AWD works well enough for family SUV needs. Of course, the Rav4 is great too. Each of these cars is different..I like them both.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
    • @@OutOfTheWay4x4 Thanks for answering my friend. We did a great job with this video. I just wanted to say that Honda can't stand against Toyota in terms of 4x4 systems.

      @mihaimihai9254@mihaimihai9254Ай бұрын
  • I had a 2001 RAV 4 and now have a 2005 CRV. The biggest problem with 2nd gen RAV 4's is that they have notorious ecm's that cause hard shifting. Once that's repaired or replaced however, they're both decent all-around vehicles aside from poor fuel economy at about 19-22mpg.

    @lStranger@lStranger20 күн бұрын
    • I have to say I like both of these cars even though each is different in some ways..

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x411 күн бұрын
  • I prefer raw4 all day every day.....

    @senolkilic6022@senolkilic6022Ай бұрын
  • CRV HONDA All the way!!!!!

    @tophatnews6678@tophatnews6678Ай бұрын
  • What country is this?

    @user-hi8np4nm2v@user-hi8np4nm2vАй бұрын
    • Czech Republic

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
    • @@OutOfTheWay4x4 Very beautiful countryside

      @Sydneywizard@Sydneywizard15 күн бұрын
    • @@Sydneywizard Thank you. Yes, we have a beautiful country.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x411 күн бұрын
  • Toyota los mejor

    @oliverhidalgo9426@oliverhidalgo942624 күн бұрын
  • You must be a Honda lover...You got the Rav4 stuck (2:37) did'nt drive with much power. The CRV you made sure to have enough power going forward (11:25), not to get it stuck....

    @loveubobby@loveubobby17 күн бұрын
    • When I drove the Toyota Rav4 through the same spot, the ground was frozen. The car fell through and got stuck in the ice. Normally, the Rav4 would have no problem getting through.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x411 күн бұрын
  • Iki araci da kullandim. Su an crv kullaniyorum 2004., crv kesinlikle rav 4 ten cok kullanışlı ve geniş ayrica rav 4 un bagajinda yedek teker bölmesi yok, lpg taktirdigin zaman bagaja lpg deposu koymak zorunda kaliyorsun buda buyuk bir sorun

    @eminsari6275@eminsari6275Ай бұрын
    • Yes, the CRV is bigger and more comfortable..But the Rav4 is a great car too.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
    • Lpg mi, fakirsin o zaman, toyota hondadan iyidir bro....😂

      @senolkilic6022@senolkilic6022Ай бұрын
    • @@senolkilic6022 bende iki araçta var. Toyotanin ici cok dar, ön koltuklari berbat. Ayrica teker bilyalari cok sik bozuluyor. Bence honda daha iyi

      @eminsari6275@eminsari6275Ай бұрын
  • Toyota is much better. The Honda's drivetrain often breaks down off-road. The Honda is not AWD, it is a FWD car with a plug-in rear.

    @MrBrzosti1989@MrBrzosti1989Ай бұрын
    • CRV is Real time AWD.. I have had 4 CRV's and have never known a breakdown..never anything..just routine service. But the Rav4 is also a perfect car.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
    • @@OutOfTheWay4x4 kzhead.info/sun/Y8VmmpqNhXOoi68/bejne.html That's bullshit, Honda turns on the rear wheel drive. You can see it in the video. Honda needs to make a full turn of the wheel. So where is this real time awd?

      @MrBrzosti1989@MrBrzosti1989Ай бұрын
    • Honda starts the drive with a pump, it is not a real AWD / permanent AWD drive@@OutOfTheWay4x4

      @MrBrzosti1989@MrBrzosti1989Ай бұрын
    • It's not that deep bro just a car.@@MrBrzosti1989

      @lt1748@lt1748Ай бұрын
    • smart 4 wheel drive Amazing Technology honda ❤️ economical and smoothly

      @aydinyilmazmhp@aydinyilmazmhpАй бұрын
  • Oldcars

    @valectronica@valectronicaАй бұрын
    • Yes, unfortunately, they don't make cars that good anymore.

      @OutOfTheWay4x4@OutOfTheWay4x4Ай бұрын
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