Rwanda refugee or Rishi Sunak: Who will be 'ejected' first? | LBC debate
'No ifs, no buts, these flights are going': Defiant Rishi Sunak says first Rwanda migrant flights will leave by July 15.
The emergency legislation is due to be voted on by MPs in the Commons and peers in the House of Lords, possibly well into the evening.
The controversial bill will return to the Commons after several rounds of parliamentary ping-pong, which has seen the Lords express their opposition to the proposals through a series of amendments the prime minister does not accept.
Mr Sunak vowed last week that today would be the day the bill finally got through parliament, telling reporters there would be "no more prevarication, no more delay".
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The entire Conservative government should be given a one-way ticket and sent to Rwanda.
beautiful Rwanda ask arsenal they have Rwanda sponsoring them
Prison for incompetence and corruption?
@user...you really hate Rwanda don't you...wonder why?😊
Or india or israel. Thats where most of them get their inspiration from
And they can take their monarchist overlords with them.
Ian Dale can’t do simple maths. 15% of 60,000 is 9,000 over 5 years which works out to an average of 1,800 Albanians a year, nowhere near the 30,000 to 40,000 he constructed off the top of his head. Yet another example of emotion over fact. Awful journalism.
Ian Dale obviously never payed attention in maths class.
Iain dale is a sad human being, he is not a true journalist, he doesn’t report, he interjects his opinions which are based on his own bias into all his shows.
I became disabled with ME/CFS and Fibromyalgia 6 years ago, prior to that I had worked full time for 37 years and done 30 years of unpaid voluntary work in the evenings and weekends as well. I’m now on £8000 a year benefits which are about to be cut by this Government because I should be able to work apparently! £8,000 a year is not a lifestyle choice!! It would take me over 214 years of benefits to send just 1 migrant to Rwanda!! And he wants to cut benefits for the most vulnerable people in the country! It’s sickening!!
Honestly I think you need to move out of the uk
Here here !! This is a voting smokescreen to deflect from this pathetic Rwanda bill if it failed. He had to have someone else to beat. Just appealing to his core voters in case they too turn their back on him.
He doesn't care about you, he doesn't care about me, he doesn't care about england, or anyone in England. He cares about himself, lining his pocket. Here's a question for you, what happened to the nom dom thing he was meant to do, that went quiet didn't it.
Sunak is disgusting
I so sorry to hear of your issues. I too was diagnosed with the same as you in 2006 and was bedridden and housebound for many years. I was lucky enough to get the full care and mobility under Disability Living Allowance but when this was changed to PIP my benefit was dropped to the lowest care rate - no mobility - despite no change in my condition. The tories have been dire for anybody who suffers from a condition that is so disabling and I too had to give up my employment in teaching and mental health nursing. However, I just wanted to give you a message of hope. I 'celebrated' my 50th birthday in bed and struggled to stay awake long enough to open my birthday cards and have a piece of birthday cake - miserable time of my life. Quite by accident I was adopting a sort of ketogenic diet and I started to feel less fatigue and was able to spend more time out of bed with my family. I even had the odd trip to town where my husband and son would park me in a cafe to enjoy a coffee while they shopped but, of course, this huge activity would send me back to bed for a few days... However, in January 2023 I made the radical change to go completely carnivore because I had put on so much weight due to lack of ability to be able to exercise and to my surprise within weeks I completely reversed my fatigue, brain fog and over time all of my joint pains have completely gone. I no longer have migraines, I lost 4 stone without feeling hungry or having to exercise, whch you will know is virtually impossible with ME/CFS and I am once more able to be outside with our horses and dogs, do DIY and gardening. At 65 I am much, much healthier than I ever was in my late 40's and 50's which is crazy. I sometimes have a treat but if I drop off my diet too much I can feel my symptoms begin to return. I just wanted you to know that there is hope
Sunak just doesn't appreciate that £1.8 million is a extortionate sum of money and therefore can't understand why the public aren't cheering him on as a genius.
How much does a fish&chips cost? 400k?
Ian 'knowing he's right' when actually just 100% wrong
He backtracked on his 30-40k comment very quickly when presented with figures
@@kentendo2672 Strange way to backtrack
every refuge will wait min of 5 years to get respond from home office,
@@UKisFK you mean quick as possible why 5 years
@@UKisFK i lodged with a guy from Kosovo who was placed in a hostel for 8 yrs unable to work he was a baker in London when he was finally allowed to work free house free car NOT SO MUCH
Ian Dale really is a joke of a journalist .
Thickest tv presenter
Just another tory puppet 🥴
He is a Tory
Why ? Doesn’t promote left wing talking points 😂🤡
@@minkshultzwhat a crime
Enough of this draconian, sociothopath Government.
Opposition is just as bad 👎
How do you stop illegal immigration ? Open borders 😂?
I used to like Ian Dale, but I'm beginning to think he's a know-it-all who is actually wrong a lot of the time.
He did not even try to understand the numbers he read out. He immediately tried to gloss over them and spin them with verbiage and spurious approximations
I fear his bulb has been dimming over time...
Never liked him or his side kick jackie Smith.
He's a tory schill
Ian Dale has very firm opinions on most topics but to his credit he does give everyone equal hearing and to a degree is open to being having his mind changed however if your views diverge from his core principles he will attempt to cut you down which I suppose is just being honest to himself.
Sunak has cost the country billions, asylum seekers being deported to Rwanda costs £1.8million. The cost effective, as well as the moral and legal cost, says we'd be better off with Sunak out.
I am forginer if Sunak pay me £1.8m in cash I will give up my british citizen and never come back in UK again, this is crazy deal I am sure someone on GOV is making a lot of £
That's a drop in the ocean compared to the billions the Tories have wasted over the last decade plus.
The tories are a bunch of freeloaders 😮
I’m not an asylum seeker but if rishi can give me 500k I’ll hand in my British citizenship and leave the country , 😎
how is it immoral to not cause the country to collapse
“You think you’re right, I know I’m right” he says while literally holding the evidence that says he’s wrong
Ian wants to close down conversation as soon as the facts start to challenge him - very Fox News.
Dale massively inflated the Albanian migration issue and couldn’t back down. Even when the figures he quoted didn’t support his claim.
No joking about Dale. What the Tories are proposing on leaving the ECHR and breaking International law will have serious consequences on our civil rights. Wake up UK and you Dale!
majority are awake its what they want its just LBC😂😂😂
HE WAS IN GOVERNMENT HES THE PROBLEM NOT THE CURE
If people who agree with leaving the ECHR think it's only 'them over there' who'll lose their civil rights, I think they'll be in for a shock. Did you see the 70 year old woman being prosecuted by the govt for holding up a placard outside a court? That would be the least of it
It won't go down well in Scotland.
@@ravd8082Provide your evidence for that statement
Can you imagine where we would be if they had pursued levelling up with half of the determination as this?
Yes, they'd have made an even bigger pigs ear of it than they have already.
Leveling up was always just a buzzword and meaningless in real terms.
TORIES OUT!
If ian dale cannot count perhaps he should take a hiatus and do his gcse maths
How can this Ian guy not have the numbers ready before they speak about it?
Dale just made himself look silly LoL
Zoe Williams had him reeling
Because she is intelligent unlike him 😂
ill give up my place in the uk in return for 1 million
1976darby😂😂😂well said. Reserve a seat gor me too. I'll tag along
Where do I sign up?
Give me a million, I'll gladly leave the UK 😅
Can you put my name down too please?
Can we start a list?
1.8 million pounds a person, just announce that and there should be plenty of people taking in those asylum seekers.
beautiful Rwanda
@@ravd8082 hear, hear......
i take 2 ,for this money.
Haha but that on some double decker buses 😂
Let's imagine we gave an asylum seekers £1.8m and let them stay...they would benefit and we all benefit from that person spending that money in our economy. Instead we are giving another government in Rwanda that money. Bonkers!
Oh dear you mustn't trouble Iain Dale with rational thought, that's not one of his life-skills.
This guy was clueless when this excellent lady called him out on his fantasy figures and imaginary workabke rwanda plan.
£1.8 million is outrageous how can the government justify this amount to the people of this country who are struggling in a cost of living crisis and queuing at a food bank
Tory Vermin
He says this Policy is the will of the people - where does he get that from. The people haven’t elected Mr Sunak. Because he hasn’t put this to ‘the people’ in an Election where’s the evidence ‘the people’ agree with the Policy,
You are to polite to call a thief MR Sunuk. This guy with Bojo and rest virtually looted the treasury during covid
@@subhashmamtora8266 Sorry about that. My Mum taught me to be polite. She died 60 years ago but I haven’t forgotten it. Best wishes.
No need for you to apologise. I wish in this day and age the way young people are behaving, are being brought up, they will, leave alone 60 years, but few years ahead remember what it means to be polite, what it means to be respectful, but at the moment that appear to be gone out of the window.
Thousands and thousands of deliberatley undocumented fighting age males from a very different culture, with different ideas, (some rejected by other countries), and with legal justice system almost powerless, then the UK must be a top destination. Fraud, theft, drug distrubution makes a fortune. Life is also completely free in the UK, craddle to grave, including a home and family. If you were made personally responsible for housing, money, bills, crime, your mindset would be very different. Ask your working classes, MI5, and your police for a start. Most people and families in the UK cannot afford to virtue signal, and do not want the destruction of their own futures and that of their chidrens when WW2 heros gave their lives to give you a better life, and democracy. Borders as you have at your airports are there for a reason too.
There's plenty of evidence that shows they don't though
It's a money pit. Stop wasting money on a white elephant idea. Imagine what could with all the money wasted on Rwanda, schools, nhs, increase wages
The money won't go to the refugees the politicians will be making quite a bit of money with their mates doing all the transfers to Rwanda. 😅😅😅
@@hubreydavid7864 chances are someone will do more research into what's going on and who is involved.
15% of 60,000 over 5 years is not 30-40,000 in 2 years 1800 per annum vs 15-20,000 per annum
I will bet £1000 that Rishi Rich is going to be out first. Someone shake my hand , virtually
Shake and a high five plus a skip and a jump. How's that for you?
@@lindacurrie8817 lovely!
Agree with you the narcissist time is up
Dale tory boy he has soon changed his tune from a few weeks ago canft stand him he needs get a life and stop protecting tories
beautiful Rwanda ask arsenal they have Rwanda sponsoring them
Most of his mates are people like cameron and rees mogg its no surprise
@@ravd8082 Are you spamming this nonsense everywhere, sweetie? Is Kigali paying you?
Nice to see some real push back on Dale's claims.
I Am British citizen, with £1.8 Million i wiĺl move overseas, Sunak is really having a Massive Laugh 😂😂😂😂
They can use that money to help the refugee by paying their rent for 10 years and finding a job for the refugee to work in and help the economy and it’s way less than the $1.1 million that it takes for the British government to ship them to Rwanda
Give each asylum seeker £1.8 million and they will want to leave. 😅
500k and I Wil leave give up my uk passport in a heart beat.
Imagine trying to convince someone you never said red was blue when you were being recorded 😂😂
Call it what it is, fascism.
Sunak is praying that the party ousts him before he has to face humiliation at the ballot box
Dale showing he has no clue again
Dale the Tory fanboy strikes again !
he's your host
£1.8million per deportee? Sub Post Masters... 'Hold my beer'.
No, 5 refuges you send to rwanda you get 2 back, so you paying £3.6m for nothing, just trip to rwanda for £3.6m
Ship me out to Rwanda for £1.8 million any day
The government probably wants to turn Rwanda into a Australia 2.0 penal colony.
Tell him to go to the country and realize what we think about his Ruanda plan and every other PLAN he's come up with.
I wonder who's going to profit from this.
I have never known a Tory government to waste taxpayers money as this one, it makes Labour look fiscally prudent.
The Tories are not the party of economic prudence. Giving the huge amount of money they have squandered and wasted and not to forget the wealth they have accumulated for themselves. Given the fact they have brought this country to its knees (Truss) nothing is working. What is worse never questioned about the cost of anything but Labour is time and time again. I am positive that Labour will be fiscally prudent and positive that Labour will serve the majority not the minority.
Labour arguably is historically.
Labour IS fiscally prudent. They redstribute wealth amongst everyone while Tories share it amongst themselves. But you don't need me to tell you this
@@revpadmayou seem to be forgetting the last Labour government. They were many things, but being fiscally prudent wasn't one of them.
@@molsy1768 Nonsense. Until the 2008 financial crisis hit, Labour were far outperforming either the previous, or the following, Tory governments on spending.
Just tell people you are giving 1.8m for voluntary repratration and half of people in UK will leave
Echr enshrines uk workers rights right to sick pay, right to maternity pay, right to unfair dismissal etc.
Which is why the conservatives are so determined to get out of it.
Can we all just compromise and come up with a sensible aslyum policy, and sensible immigration policy? 😂
If people were reminded that the number of people sent to Rwanda would be less than 1% of arrivals by small boat and that those arriving by small boat represents only 4% of arrivals over all, they'd surely say its not worth it.
For a country with a cost of living crisis this is amazing to watch
Why no one mention we get their cripples in return !?
He is a Monster abusing and bullying poverty line poor and sick in pain weak vulnerable people who don't know how to cheat and lie to become rich
Anyone remember when Ian Dale could not believe how insane the Rwanda policy was? He thought it was so insane when he first heard about it, that he told a caller to his show that he was wrong about the facts and only retracted his statement when a producer told him in his earpiece that the caller was right. Will he retract his silly statements about Alabamians as well? Never any real apologies from this Tory boy though.
Dale really needs to go, he makes it up as he goes.
The best part f LBC is that you can switch it off - like now. Bye
I'm a pensioner , but give ME £1.8 million and I will fecking WALK to Rwanda!
One way out, for multi multi multi millionaire,🙄.
Pay me 1.8Million and im OUT of Britain
8 million pounds is a lot
You know what's more than 8 million pounds? 9 million pounds
I'm a British citizen. Can I get a flight to Rwanda?
Our involvement in wars here there and everywhere, cut to foreign aid, two main reasons for increase in emmigration.
The Race Is On. Sunak should fly to Rwanda to personally welcome them; with the words; thank you for coming - please, make sure you get your money's worth.
Can't wait for Scotland to leave this madhouse. Better hurry up before our health service is ruined.
give me £1.8 million and ill go to Rwanda and pay for the trip myself
1,8 Million. Per person. Could fix schools, could give children free food across across the country, could help get people out of debt, could hire more police officers, could help the military, and that's just off the top of my head. Well done Wishy Rishy.
Nice to hear the arguments so clearly without without it decending into point scoring.
sunak with out a blink
Yes clear that Dale defends the Tories. Outrageous when the evidence and facts are evident to see. However Dale prefers to rattle around for evidence than admit he is wrong One would think since Dale brought up Albania he would have done his research....Did not that follows not doung his job description therefore have to question why his salary is paid.
It would literally be cheaper to pay the Asylum seekers 1 million each to leave the UK. Which itself is insanity.
15% over 2 years does not mean it's 30%. Percentages are not cumulative like that. It's simply 15%. He's wrong and unwilling to acknowledge it. He exemplifies what's wrong with the current discourse
A key stage 3 geography lesson would explain to Sunak why the Rwanda policy is not a deterrent.
Send Sunak to Rwanda.
Nick Abbot for election night ta x
Nick abbot and Jonathan from harow. Will be Great
£1.8 Million?! Well I wont be going there for my holidays.
The 25% who don't get asylum. The answer is to process the claims, and send the ones that are ineligible for asylum back to country of origin.
But the Rwandans have agreed to avoid refoulment, so failed asylum seekers will also stay in Rwanda! What a farse!!
You can't send them back to their country if they don't get aslyum. That's the problem.
And set up a processing centre in France (the French have already agreed to this) and then no one needs to risk their life on a small boat. Labour have already said they will enact this.
@@steventwine8705 That's just plain wrong, of course you can. You can choose not to, but that's up to the government.
@@steventwine8705of course you can! Who told you otherwise? Because they’re making a liar out of you.
Can I get sent please. It can't be worse than the UK. You can give me the millions and I will pay for my own ticket.
Iain Dale still has faith in his precious Tories. This misguided loyalty astounds me.
Nice one, well done for resisting the gaslighting
Give me one million please I'd emigrate to NZ TOMORROW .😢😢
Are uk citizens eligible for £1.2m per applicant grant ?
Living in France is an existential crisis.....
8 years this person would have been working and pay taxies in this country but no, the government kept them in shadow
30 to 40% of all immigrants or just people crossing on boats are two very different things. Really need to get your facts straight before bandying that one about. 🤦♂️
The Rwanda plane will be flying over a number of country's and in their air space. Do we have the permission of those country's? Do the Rwandan people know we intend sending 1000s of refugees their way. Just asking.
Elections Rishi... Elections Son... Stop the waffle 😂😂
My asylum request here in Belgium was processed in 19 months (I know the wait could have been longer had I not contacted the migration office to check how my process was going, bureaucracy isn't perfect here either). And by the time I got the approval, I had already been working for 7 months. I don't understand why anyone would want to seek Asylum in the UK, a place where refugees are so horribly treated. Moreover, how dumb it is to spend so much money per asylum seeker!!! Processing the request quickly would save the UK sooo much money, as so many analysts have stated. Politicians!!!
15% + 15% over two years equals 30%, thats definitely Tory maths 😂
Imagine letting each other finish talking
If you’re from Africa and in a bad situation either economically or a real refugee, and the worst case scenario is getting sent to Africa It doesn’t seem that much of a deterrent to me
SUNAK AND MITCHELL BOTH SAID SCHEME WAS TO EXPENSIVE THEN BOTH CHANGE THEIR MINDS, WHAT A WAY TO RUN A COUNTRY
Who is really benefiting from all this money being wasted 🤔 my guess its no different to the torys PPE contracts to all their friends. Expect a new tory funded airline starting up called ConAir ✈️
Give me 1.8 Million i will clear off as soon as its in my pocket. Or isnt it available to anyone Born British.
15% of 120 000 people in small boats=18 000 Albanians over 2 years. Dale cannot do maths.
If the UK sends 300 people to Rwanda, it will cost the taxpayer £490m under the partnership; an extra £6m in individual payments; plus £45m for processing and operational costs over five years. The total costs would be £541m, which works out as £1.8m per asylum seeker. 🧐
Sunak first. I'm not concerned about disparate poor refugees
"If I'm wrong, I'll admit it." Ian Dale.
Love it when Iain gets embarrassed by someone who is right.
Ian lied through his teeth the entire episode. Shameful for LBC to employ a blatant government mouthpiece.
What about all the carbon from those planes?😂😂😂
We’re did sunak parent originated from? Are his parents not asylum seekers before he became resident.
I would give up my place in the UK for 1 million, saving the tax payer 800k, and i'm sure many others would.